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Twitter Shareholder Travis: Musk Is Good

15 Apr 2022

CLAY: Let’s go to Dana in Virginia Beach, Virginia. He’s got a question that you just heard. I thought Senator Hagerty of Tennessee just kind of laid it out there well about the potential lawsuits that might ensue over Twitter being more interested in protecting the company from being bought by Elon Musk than they are in actually maximizing shareholder value. Dana, what you got for us?

BUCK: A shrewd fellow, by the way.

CLAY: Yeah. No doubt.

BUCK: Go ahead, sir.

CALLER: First off, guys, NOLA retired Navy fighter pilot dittos to Rush’s memory and for the great job you guys have been doing. Love listening to you.

BUCK: Thank you.

CLAY: Well, thank you.

CALLER: That said, the Elon Musk thing and the attempt he’s making for the hostile takeover, I know that it has been indicated that the board has fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders, and while I was on hold, I did some research as far as that is concerned, and there is obviously legal precedent for that, and I would think something like maybe the SEC would get involved and force them to comply with that or to step down as board members.

BUCK: The SEC is a federal agency. So they’ll do the bidding of the Biden regime. Not easy to say.

CLAY: Avik Roy, a friend of both of ours, super smart guy works, at Fre O-P-P, FREOPP, which is different from the song, but what he is — has pointed out is that there does seem to be a DOJ and SEC concerted effort to work against Elon Musk’s purchase of Twitter. Why would that be? Well, Joe Biden knows that he may well have gotten elected president of the United States because of the protection that Twitter gave him as it relates to the Hunter Biden story.

I don’t think that’s a wild hyperbolic certification when you look at how close the election ended up being in Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona, among other states. So what you’re asking, Dana, I think is a really, really intriguing question, and that is this: Right now, Elon Musk is offering a 20% premium. Based on implementing this poison pill, Buck, I would expect if the markets were open today — and they’re closed for Good Friday.

I would expect that we will see Twitter stock decline substantially on Monday, absent any new information on Saturday, Sunday, or the remainder of Friday. That gap between — and I’m a shareholder. I’m a longtime Twitter shareholder. I would sell my stock right now for $54.20 to Elon Musk if I had that opportunity.

BUCK: I just want you to go to the board meeting with all the shareholders with the proxies and all that. I want the Clay Travis, instead of “Greed is Good,” “Musk is Good” speech, a la Gordon Gekko. You’d be the guy to do it.

CLAY: I don’t know if they limit you to, like, one minute or two minutes like they do. I imagine they do.

BUCK: Nah, you’d enthrall them. They’d go past.

CLAY: Refuse to pass the mic. And that lawsuit, which may well be… I’m not sure if the courts are open today all over the country, but I would expect that you will see shareholder lawsuits filed arguing that Twitter’s board has breached its fiduciary duty by not accepting the offer that Elon Musk has put on the table. And, as it moves forward, those could become even more legitimate because if Twitter doesn’t have bidder…

Now, to the board’s credit, if they end up finding somebody who’s gonna pay $60 a share, then they’re maximum moving shareholder value by selling it to somebody else. If they have no other bidders and they implemented this poison pill and Elon Musk is going to be forestalled from being able to acquire the company and the stock price declines $15/$20 below what Elon Musk is offering, there’s billions of dollars of legal exposure for the board there, and there’s a lot of plaintiff lawyers out there, I guarantee you, who do these shareholder lawsuits that are giddy about being able to file them.

BUCK: I’ll tell you this: I really do believe that, you know the “If I can’t have it, no one can” obsessive people in movies and stuff?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: I think that the libs who run Twitter and a lot of the people who are running around now were saying it is an existential threat to world peace if Elon Musk were to take over Twitter. If the choice were between letting Elon Musk have it or imploding the whole thing so there is no more Twitter, they would rather it implode, ’cause they still have all those other platforms.

If you gave members of the Twitter board — who are all very, very wealthy — the choice between Elon Musk take over and everyone at Twitter gets fired and the whole thing gets shut down, I think they would choose door number two. I know that sounds crazy, but I think this is almost… They’re on a mission here. This is important to their sense of who they are in the world and in history over at Twitter.

CLAY: What they’ll do, Buck, is they’ll find an investment bank that is going to say, “This offer isn’t high enough, Twitter’s value as a business is more substantial.” The problem with that, Buck, is if that were true, somebody else would be bidding and right now it doesn’t appear that’s occurring.

Maybe it will. If it doesn’t happen that investment bank is gonna be in a tough spot to argue that they are fulfilling their fiduciary duty by not accepting the highest offer and putting the money in the pocket. Here’s the other pressure. Buck, you know this. You invest. Ain’t been a good year for stocks.

BUCK: It’s been rough.

CLAY: (laughs) Yeah, it’s been rough. It’s been rough for the Clay and Buck —

BUCK: I gotta get Car Shield for my electric scooter ’cause I need to make sure I’m prepared for expenses.

CLAY: So all these hedge fund guys and all these equity fund guys who run these businesses, they want to bank the 20% gain that they get if they sell their Twitter stock because not only are they not getting to bank it, they’re going to lose money ’cause the stock price is gonna decline come Monday.

And so if they had the right to choose whether or not to let Elon buy their stock, given how poorly many stocks have done in 2021 already, they get judged by the percentage return they post, Buck. They want to take the money, they want to get out, they want that return. So this is gonna turn into, I think, a real battle royale between capitalists and between communists.

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Jesse Kelly Joins Clay and Buck to Bring the Heat

15 Apr 2022

CLAY: We bring in now Jesse Kelly, who is a good friend of both of ours. Have we had you on since the Houston event, Jesse, which was such an awesome time we had down there with Michael Berry and all the listeners we have down there in the Houston area where you live, I mean, that was a lot of fun that night.

KELLY: I had no idea it was gonna be that much fun, I’ll be honest with you, ’cause I don’t like events. I want to be home. I want to relax and watch a documentary like an old man.

CLAY: (laughing)

KELLY: That was a blast. That was an absolute blast.

CLAY: It really was. And, by the way, Buck and I are gonna have you up to Nashville at some point. I know I talked to your wife; I don’t think you guys have ever spent any time in Nashville, right? We’ll have a big… We’re gonna do a Clay and Buck event sooner or later in Nashville. We’ll get you up here. I think you guys will have a good time here as well.

KELLY: Well, you know you don’t have to twist my arm to come drink beer with you and Buck. I’ll tell you that much. I love… I’ve only been in Nashville, done an overnighter, did a quick overnighter there, took my son there. And it’s one of those amazing cities I’m worried the liberals are gonna ruin, if they aren’t already.

CLAY: It’s so far good.

BUCK: So, Jesse, what happens now given that… It’s like the Democrats are in the about the same time, they can’t go any lower, the poll numbers are atrocious. Anyone who’s being objective, when they’re not covering some external or foreign policy issue or the war in Ukraine, when they bring it back to domestic matters at MSNBC or CNN or wherever, they all look like they’re at some kind of a funeral just discussing Biden’s polls numbers. What do they do now? What happens now? It just feels like there’s almost no rational opposition to the argument that Biden is awful at this job and Democrats are bad at governance; so where do they go?

KELLY: They keep going down and they go down even faster because these are not… We have to understand, the JFK Democratic Party is gone. It’s long gone. Even the Bill Clinton Democratic Party is gone. These people are full-blown communists now, and they don’t know how to moderate or slow down or back off. If I was to put Buck or Clay in charge of the Democratic Party today, you guys would walk in, you’d gather everyone around.

You’d say, “Okay. You shut up. You, no more trans talk. You, we’re done with the CRT.” You would immediately try to moderate them, to mitigate the losses that are coming at the midterms. But that’s because you’re both sane people. Everyone listening right now, that’s what they would do. These people are not sane. Instead, they’re going to go all-in.

You watch. They’re gonna spend the next — I mean, I don’t know how many — months to the election doubling down and tripling down on everything that’s killing them ’cause that’s the only direction they know how to go. Now, that’s their great advantage is they always play offense. They’re never on defense, they’re always trying to move forward but again like many things in life your greatest advantage can quickly become your biggest disadvantage.

And there’s just nobody — there’s none there who can bang everyone’s head together and say, “Shut up, stop, we’re changing direction.” Ideally that would be Joe Biden, but look at Joe Biden. Is Joe Biden gonna call in the conference and bring Nancy Pelosi in and the head of the DNC and congressman here and senator there and say, “Okay, everybody put the word out, we are rearranging things”?

BUCK: Jesse, did you think Biden…? ‘Cause I saw some back and forth on this. Did you think Biden was trying to shake the hand of a nonexistent person for a second or was he actually signaling to people offstage?

KELLY: I actually to be honest, as much as I enjoy Joe Biden’s senior moments, I actually thought this one, I didn’t think he was trying to shake somebody’s hand. I thought he was signaling to someone offstage. Now, he did turn around and was completely lost as to how to get off the stage, and at this point I know it looks bad.

But why can’t we get a handler up there for Joe Biden right there when he’s done speaking, to just take him by the arm — you can make it not as obvious — and say, “Hey, Joe, we’re going this direction.” This is a human being who’s very clearly lost in — and not doing with me. It looks really bad for the country that the president can’t seem to get offstage ever.

CLAY: Jesse, I feel like this Twitter and Elon Musk battle, sometimes you get stories that perfectly epitomize what the stakes are, and I feel like this one really is as it pertains to Big Tech. Because on the one side you have Elon Musk who’s worth $300 billion and looks around — and I really do believe this is his motivation — and says (summarized), “I’ve got more money than almost anyone has ever had in the history of the world.

“But based on the way we’re going right now, I’m not confident that the world is going to continue to be a free place. Let me take 10% of my wealth and help to create a more free society.” And on the other side, you have people saying, “Hey, it’s too scary if everyone can say what they actually think. We’ve got a rigged system right now in control in Twitter.

“Let’s keep this guy, Elon Musk, from having power.” So you have the communists going up against the capitalists in social media. Does that crystallize for you, too, what’s going on? I mean, it just feels perfect to me to encapsulate, to people who may not pay a lot of attention in Big Tech and social media what’s going on.

KELLY: Oh, you nailed it. It’s not honestly as much about Twitter or Elon Musk as it is a gigantic reveal of just how rotted and corrupt our total system is and just what these people will do to protect what they’ve got going. I mean, we have a rotted government. We have a rotted Big Tech. We have rotted entertainment. We have rotted sports, as you talk about all the time, Clay.

And when you get to a point in a society where it’s all rotted and corrupt, societies don’t generally turn and change directions on their own. None of these people are gonna look in the mirror and say, “Hey, we’ve screwed everything up. We have to reform.” Reformers are going to start to rise and try to change things and make things right.

I would argue Trump was the first of these. Elon Musk is the second. And the system struck down Trump — two impeachments, the Russian collusion investigation. They’re going to do the same thing to Elon Musk. And what this is gonna do is reveal to more and more people just how bad it is. It’s really, really bad. An underreported part of the story is — now, this is still officially rumor, but we had organizations like Fox News reporting on it yesterday — that the Justice Department was talking about launching an investigation into Elon Musk!

CLAY: Yeah.

KELLY: We’re not that far removed from the NSA spying on Tucker Carlson and leaking private text messages to the press! That’s how rotted and bad it is. It’s really bad, and we’re gonna experience a lot more of it.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Jesse Kelly, syndicated radio host, host of the Jesse Kelly Show. Jesse, what do you think the primary messaging modes of attack between now and when the ballots are cast need to be for Republicans who want to not just win, but scorched-earth the other side, if you will? Is it parental involvement in children’s education? Is it the wide-open borders, crime, is it all of the above, is the economy? Where do we go?

KELLY: I would say it’s the parental thing, and I continue to ask people on the ground what they’re hearing, you know, these grassroots organizers out there, and I hear that from every single one of them. This gross LGBTQ whatever it is indoctrination of children in schools is something that turns off parents almost universally. The Democrat numbers…

When you pull Democrat parents on whether they want their kids learning this in schools, the majority of Democrats don’t want that at all. Parents do not want their kindergarteners learning about sex in school, and this is an issue that the right has been scared of and is still scared of, and they should not be. These people are psychopath child groomers, and they really are.

They’re really after your kids. And when you expose them for that, it drives them insane because they’ve enjoyed educating our kids for so long, and this is the issue that the GOP should be running on from New York to California and everywhere in between. Wade into this! It is the ultimate political winner.

CLAY: All right. I’ve got one of the most difficult questions you probably ever been asked in your life. Which decade was better, the 1980s or the 1990s?

KELLY: Awww.

CLAY: I don’t know if you saw the poll that I put up, but it is —

KELLY: I saw your ridiculous poll, Clay.

CLAY: All right. So may not be a hard answer for you then.

KELLY: It’s the eighties! It’s the eighties! The nineties? Look, I was a nineties kid, too, I was born in ’81 so obviously I experienced both decades. But the 1980s we’re talking everything from Reagan to Guns and Roses in their heyday. The nineties got a little dark towards end, and I don’t want to be painted as anti-nineties. But the eighties was the greatest decade in this country. I love it. Even the music was better in the eighties. The eighties might be the best music decade ever in the history of America.

BUCK: I gotta tell you something, Clay. Jesse Kelly prefers raisins to chocolate chips in his cookies.

KELLY: (laughing)

BUCK: So can he even be trusted with anything in this particular.

CLAY: The one area, by the way, that I think you totally when I find on is nineties music is better than eighties music.

KELLY: (groans)

CLAY: Now, I think eighties movies are better than nineties movies. I think you could argue nineties versus eighties sports, if you like Montana and the 49ers or Jordan and the Bulls more, like, you can argue that. But, to me, nineties music, more variety, right? You’re like old school rap, like, back in the day. You got the rise… Now, it is kind of a dark group when you talk about the rise of all the guys out on the Seattle scene, you know, who end up —

BUCK: Grunge.

CLAY: — the Cobains of the world, the grunge. But that was kind of a dark world, right? Like, the grunge scene.

BUCK: They were not very happy. Did not end well for some of them.

KELLY: (laughing)

CLAY: Yeah, not very well at all. So I can see that as being kind of a maudlin universe that we created there.

BUCK: I also want to get Jesse’s take here on this ’cause you keep posing it to other people. Jesse, speaking of the system, Clay — who in some ways is just such an optimist — believes that Hunter Biden could actually face serious federal criminal charges while Joe Biden is president and we have a bet that this year, he thinks that he will actual face charges. I say that he will not. Where do you come down on this but also how do you assess this thing right now, the whole Hunter Biden situation?

KELLY: I actually… (sigh) I kind of agree with both of you, and I know that doesn’t make sense. Let me explain really quickly. I normally would be king cynic right there with you, Buck, and say, “He’s never going to face charges; they’re gonna find a way to wash it away.” But I actually believe the Democrats, as insane as they are, I think they are smart enough to realize that Joe Biden is a big liability.

And as unpopular is the party is, he’s somehow dragged it down even worse. I’ve made this prediction — I know it sounds crazy — I think they’re going to run him out of office after the midterms. I think they want him gone, and therefore, I think the Hunter Biden stuff is a useless tool to get him gone. We all know how these things work, couple meetings, couple closed-door meetings and, “Hey, Joe, your son Hunter’s going down, there’s a chance you could get complimented in this — or you could retire for health reasons and let Vice President Dome take over.” I think that’s the route we’re gonna go.

CLAY: (chuckling) I don’t think there’s any way they put Kamala in office, Buck, and Jesse too. I think that she has been so bad, I think they’ll allow Joe Biden to kind of ride it out, unless his health just becomes so bad that they can’t even justify it. I think they will. But I think in February or March, he announces he’s not gonna run and then we have a total free-for-all in the Democrat Party. And I’ve said that I think we end up with Hillary as the nominee in ’24.

KELLY: I actually agree with that because their backup plans all went south. I mean, again, they nominated Dome ’cause she was a black woman. Well, she’s actually gotten less popular. The more people get of her, the less popular she is. And the backup to Dome was Rear Admiral Buttigieg, but he can’t get out of a primary because we have poll after poll after poll showing the fact that he’s gay is a big deal in the black community. And without the black vote, you can’t win the Democrat primary. So you’ve gotta go searching for something else. So you’re right. It’s gonna be grandma death.

BUCK: Man. Hillary? A possible Hillary versus Trump again throwdown.

KELLY: Yeah.

CLAY: Eight years later.

BUCK: It would be totally, totally full circle. Folks you’re listening Jesse Kelly podcast, tune into him live in the Jesse Kelly Show in syndication 6 to 9 Eastern time nationwide. Mr. Kelly, give the folks, give the fam a high five from us and thanks for calling many. We appreciate it.

KELLY: Be good, fellows.

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Clay Makes the Case for Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

15 Apr 2022

BUCK: Jesse Kelly there, a little bit too vociferous in his love of the eighties at the expense of the nineties. I mean, look, the movies, I think you could make a case for either one. I think you gotta say eighties music is superior to nineties music.

CLAY: You like eighties music more?

BUCK: Yeah. I’m not a grunge person, Travis. Can’t do it. Can’t do it.

CLAY: Even, like, the rap in the nineties was so great, the early days of Snoop and Dr. Dre. If you like the guys who performed if you watched the Super Bowl, that’s kind of my era, my generation. I think you had a great melding of rock and rap in a way that didn’t exist in the eighties. And let me say this, by the way.

Movies. I disagree with you there. I think the eighties movies are vastly superior. I think you could make an argument the greatest movies to ever be made in the history of moviedom occurred in the 1980s. You talk about — just think about it — the Back to the Futures, the Indiana Joneses, Goonies, in terms of big audiences. Star Wars, by and large. I know the first Star Wars came out in ’77, vbut you had Return of the Jedi.

BUCK: I’ll raise you Braveheart, Gladiator, The Matrix. Please.

CLAY: Were those all nineties movies?

BUCK: The Matrix I think is 2000, to be fair. I can’t believe I know that off the top of my head.

CLAY: It’s like 2002.

BUCK: And I think Braveheart’s ’95 or ’96. Am I right about this, team? And then Gladiator may be 2000 as well so, okay, that’s getting a little far.

CLAY: A lot of those movies — and those are great films. But you can’t watch ’em at families. I’m biased because I have kids.

BUCK: I don’t have kids so, yeah, you gotta watch things with the kids.

CLAY: My argument, greatest movie ever made in terms of appealing to everyone — I’m not talking about, like, Citizen Kane versus Schindler’s List, right? I’m not talking about films. I’m talking about greatest movie ever made, in my opinion. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, my number one draft pick. My number two, Back to the Future.

BUCK: I just don’t understand how you can put The Last Crusade ahead of Raiders of the Lost Ark. I don’t even know. Are you paid by The Last Crusade or something? Are you a spokesperson for The Last Crusade?

CLAY: Last Crusade is a work of cinematic art.

BUCK: (laughing)

CLAY: Every sentence in The Last Crusade is like a Shakespearean play. It is perfect, and it appeals for everybody aged 8 to 80. New I loved Raiders of the Lost Ark when I was 8, but it doesn’t stand up when you see it when you’re 40.

BUCK: Are you kidding me! The Nazis have their face melt at the end! It’s amazing; the whole movie is incredible.

CLAY: Oh, that’s Raiders of the Lost Ark. Oh, I was thinking you were arguing Temple of Doom.

BUCK: Whoa! Whoa! You think I’m a Temple of Doom guy?

CLAY: I was a big Temple of Doom guy when I was 8.

BUCK: It’s like e’tu, Travis? It’s like you don’t even know me. Temple of Doom? Next, you’re gonna say Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is my favorite.

CLAY: No. Crystal Skull is a disaster. By the way, 1980s movies, you’re a New York City guy. I should just be able to say “Ghostbuster films,” and you shouldn’t be able to argue otherwise.

BUCK: So Ghostbusters is an amazing movie that I celebrate with my entire family. I will say, however, it’s actually a little spicier as I’m older now.

CLAY: There’s a lot of sex appeal in it that you miss.

BUCK: For kids ,there’s some stuff like, I don’t know about that one as much. I feel like there should more a PG version of it.

CLAY: Sigourney Weaver sneaky, super hot when you actually hit puberty. When you’re 8 and you watch it, you don’t really notice it but there’s a lot of sex in the original Ghostbusters.

BUCK: Yeah. Yeah. Later on in life, I actually got to know Rick Moranis a little bit. Random.

CLAY: I’ve heard he’s a good dude. You told me he’s a good tennis player.

BUCK: Yeah, good tennis player. Very good at squash, which I can’t play at all.

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Sen. Hagerty on the Border Crisis, Inflation and Musk’s Twitter Move

15 Apr 2022

BUCK: Got some big questions to pose on our friend Senator Bill Hagerty of the great state of Tennessee — which, of course, Clay, big Tennessee fan, but everyone loves Tennessee. Senator, thanks for being with us.

SEN. HAGERTY: It’s great to be back with you. Thank you.

BUCK: What do you make of the situation as it’s unfolding right now at the southern border, currently beyond the capacity of Border Patrol to process the people illegally crossing as of today. That’s already happening. They think it might double, maybe even triple within 30 days. (chuckles) What is the Biden administration thinking?

SEN. HAGERTY: The Biden administration is not thinking at all about what’s happening at the border. If they were, they wouldn’t be allowing this. You know, they won’t go there. Joe Biden won’t go to the border. Democrat politicians won’t go. I recently led a group of Tennessee sheriffs and mayors down there, ’cause we’re dealing with the aftermath what’s happening at that border right here in Tennessee.

They’re turning every town into a border town, and I’ll tell you this. Each month here in Tennessee is worse than the month before in terms of the number of overdoses and deaths, most of it due to fentanyl, all of it coming across that southern border. It’s the Chinese Communist Party shipping the fentanyl and its precursors into Mexico.

They’re working with their partners in the drug cartels. Those cartels control the entirety of the northern border. They have lost complete control of the northern border of Mexico to the drug cartels. The Mexican government cannot control them, and those cartels are controlling that border and ours. They’re using humans to basically take the Border Patrol officers and get them completely distracted and tied up, and then they’re shipping the fentanyl across in major quantities to poison our youth here in America. It’s just terrible.

CLAY: Senator, appreciate you coming on. As you’ve discussed that situation at the border, it appears that a lot Democratic senators — probably not coincidentally, a lot of them in very much toss-up states and running for reaction — are opposed to the Biden administration’s decision on Title 42. What sort of recourse do you guys have in the Senate to fight against this? What do you anticipate that looking like as May the 23rd moves closer and closer to fruition here?

SEN. HAGERTY: Clay, I’m actually introduce legislation to strengthen Title 42, and I need my Democrat colleagues to join me in this ’cause if we do, we can come back with legislation that will basically take this Title 42 rule and put it into law, and the Biden administration will have no chance but to keep it in force. My addition to that… You know, if Title 42 is based on a public health emergency.

They’ve used covid as the rationale, tuberculosis could be that. A public health emergency that would cause, you know, danger and harms to Americans with people coming across that border with unknown diseases. Well, there’s something else coming across that border, and it’s fentanyl, it’s illicit drugs, and it is kill our kids.

In fact, it’s the number one cause of death for Americans between the ages of 18 and 45 last year. Over a hundred thousand lives lost to this. This is a public health crisis. My legislation strengthens that, and that’s exactly how we push back — and again, begin to arm our Border Patrol agents with the tools they need to stop this. The Biden administration has tried to destroy every tool they had.

They stopped building the wall. It’s just a disgrace when you see what’s happening down there, just big gaps and holes in the wall. They won’t allow the Border Patrol agents to do their job. They’re taking away every tool now. When you take away Title 42 — again, which is their one tool that they had to say, “Look, because of the public health crisis, we can turn people away.”

They remove that, we’re gonna be completely swamped at the border. I was told that we would have as many as a million people come over after the Title 42 is dropped in late May, if that were to happen. They’re building up on the border now and they’re just gonna crush and overwhelm our Border Patrol.

BUCK: Speaking to Senator Bill Hagerty of Tennessee. Senator, the economy is not good (chuckling), as I’m sure everyone listening already knows and you know.

SEN. HAGERTY: Yes.

BUCK: Inflation number just came out this week, 8.5%. The Biden regime is struggling to come up with an explanation other than it’s Putin’s fault. What are you seeing and hearing about how this is gonna go in the midterms, how much of an effect this will have, and is your expectation that until there’s different leadership, it’s just gonna continue to get worse? It’s remarkable Biden keeps saying — I believe, even still — that the way to deal with inflation is to pass this $5 drill spending package.

SEN. HAGERTY: It’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. They believe that spending more money reduces inflation. This started back in March of last year when Biden came in and shoved through on a completely partisan basis — you remember not a single Republican vote, they shoved through — a $1.9 trillion stimulus package. The economy was already moving in a positive direction.

I warned then that it would set off inflation that they wouldn’t be able to control. They did it anyway. Again with 50 partisan votes and Kamala Harris casting the tie decision, they came in and shoved another $1.9 trillion of stimulus into an economy that was already overheating and they set this thing off. The other thing they did, though, that I think was even more serious than the stimulus spending that they put in place was the war that Joe Biden waged on the oil and gas industry here in America.

He started that on day one. He canceled the Keystone XL pipeline. He forbade drilling on federal lands, whether it be onshore or offshore. They killed the permitting process for pipelines. What they’ve done is sent a message to the capital markets that you shouldn’t invest in oil and gas in America. We’re gonna destroy the return on your investment.

So that’s dried up capacity in the oil and gas industry; no new investment is going in there. That had the effect of increasing domestic energy prices of course; but it also had a global impact because these energy prices are all tied. So the energy price increases what he saw at the pump of diesel fuel, gas, we’ve seen it in heating oil throughout America, some places doubled.

What we’ve also seen is this has happened on a global basis. In fact, the biggest beneficiary of the price increase that Biden kicked off is Vladimir Putin, because they’re the second largest producer of oil in Russia. So he’s actual inadvertently funded Putin’s war machine at the same time he set off inflation here in America. This is all Joe Biden’s fault. Now what he’s trying to do is blame it on the Ukraine invasion. This was well underway before Putin ever invaded Ukraine. All Joe Biden did was fund it.

CLAY: Senator, you’ve got a good business background. You’ve been involved in a lot of companies over the years — and this just happened in the last hour or so, so you may not have had a lot of time to digest it. But Twitter’s board has adopted a poison foil effectively, it appears, keep Elon Musk from being able to buy the company and implement more free speech freedoms so that people can say what they actually think in a marketplace of ideas. What are your thoughts on the battle over Twitter, on the board’s actions from both a business and political perspective?

SEN. HAGERTY: Well, let’s just give our listeners a quick rundown of what a poison pill is. A pill is a mechanism that evidently the Twitter board is… I knew they were contemplating it. I’m sorry they went ahead and did it because I think they violated their fiduciary duty. In most cases that’s the result. Twitter shareholders are gonna suffer because of this because this poison pill mechanism basically means if Elon Musk takes steps to acquire, — at a premium, to acquire — the stock of Twitter, there’s an automatic dilution provision that essentially whites out and dilutes the investment.

So it’s gonna basically damage the value of the company. They’re willing to sacrifice shareholder value so they can pursue their own control, keep management in place, and so they can continue to pursue their own political agenda because they’ve already contorted Twitter into a political machine. I think that probably has already suppressed shareholder value.

Elon Musk probably sees the potential to unlock that value because he could make it an open forum, not subject to censorship and not subject to political bias. That would probably already unleash a lot of value (chuckles) and now the board of directors is gonna put in place a poison pill mechanism to not allow them to go ahead and exercise the premium that is being offered? That’s very detrimental to shareholders. I’m certain there will be a tremendous number of lawsuits over this.

BUCK: Two more things for you quickly, Senator Hagerty. One, do you think those lawsuits are likely to be successful, right? It’s one thing to sue; it’s another thing to actually get a judgment. And then, is there a pathway…? I know you’re not on the Twitter board and not sitting around looking at the M&A possibilities here, what the actual structure of Twitter is internally. But is there a way that Elon Musk…? I mean, he’s the richest man in the world. Can he force a buy of Twitter even if Twitter tries to stop? You know what I mean? Is there a nuclear option?

SEN. HAGERTY: Well, I’ve served on New York Stock Exchange boards, NASDAQ boards. There are a variety of options that he has. In the Delaware courts… I’m not sure where Twitter is incorporated, but it depends on which court system the suits are brought in. The options, though, are multiple on the lawsuit side as well as the financial mechanisms that he can use to obtain control anyone direct means, direct and in direct means. So the answer is, I haven’t fully analyzed it. I’m not certain what tack he may take next. But certainly, Elon Musk has an enormous amount of resources available to him to pursue this if he wants to.

CLAY: Senator Hagerty, we appreciate it. And, by the way, I’m looking forward to seeing you at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday with President Trump for a big event.

SEN. HAGERTY: I look forward to being there with you, Clay. That will be great. I look forward to seeing you there.

CLAY: Should be a lot of fun. That is Senator Hagerty of Tennessee.

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MSNBC Freaks Out Over Musk-Twitter Situation

15 Apr 2022

BUCK: The libs are freaking out about the whole Twitter situation. Here’s MSNBC’s…

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I give CNN the rough stuff a lot. I gotta watch a little more MSNBC so I could pick up some great moments like this. Here’s MSNBC’s Katy Tur. Listen to this one.

BUCK: Notice, Clay, the assumption baked into all of this all along is that they have “the truth,” and therefore they can shut down anything that’s not “true.” These libs in the media lie all the time.

CLAY: Yeah. And, Buck, I think this has actually been wildly clarifying because what you are seeing happen in real time is the left wing in particular of the Democratic Party — which is wildly overrepresented among the blue checks on Twitter — is aggressively arguing that it’s too dangerous to let people say what they really think on social media.

They are saying, effectively, “Democracy itself is too dangerous. We can’t allow people to share their opinions and their voices in a wide manner without censorship or regulation.” They are telling on themselves. While they try to argue “Democracy Dies in Darkness” and all that jazz, the reality is, they are terrified of you and me and real people out there in America sharing our opinions every single day without filters added to it and without the algorithm deciding what we can and cannot see.

BUCK: I think it’s ’cause so many of their ideas are obvious garbage that without the ability to censor and control the conversation, they’d look stupid.

CLAY: Yeah. That’s a hundred percent right. And that’s why they go to not arguing on the substance but immediately saying, “You’re racist, you’re sexist, you’re homophobic, you’re transphobic,” attacks as opposed to actual debate.

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Adams Calls Out BLM as NYC Shooting Vanishes from News

15 Apr 2022

BUCK: I have to tell you, it is remarkable how quickly a mass casualty terror attack has fallen out of the headlines, not just here in New York City, but across the country. It was just days ago there was a terrorist on a New York City subway who tried to kill a whole lot people just going about their day-to-day lives here in the morning rush hour in Brooklyn here in New York.

He was caught. A lot of reporting about that and obviously the day of the incident it was the dominant news story for good reason. But there’s no aftermath discussion. There are no panels I’m seeing on TV or elsewhere wondering what could have been done to prevent this or what ideology is behind this? What’s the motive?

As I’ve been saying on Twitter and elsewhere, I would ask you right now, “What is the official motive for the killing in Waukesha, that mass murder in Waukesha, the Christmas parade? Have they ever told us?” I think the answer is quite clearly no. They have not. Can any of you — without Googling it — remember the name of the killer in Waukesha?

The answer is almost overwhelmingly going to be no, unless you maybe live in the area and it was something that was geographically closer to you or, God forbid, you knew someone who was affected that day. You all know the name of Kyle Rittenhouse, of course. And he was somebody who we were told was a mass shooter, a white supremacist — and if you even tried to raise money for his defense, you were targeted by social media, speaking of Twitter and all the rest of it.

People lost their jobs for raising money. Kyle Rittenhouse was a hundred percent not guilty, found not guilty in a court of law, was not guilty to any reasonable person, but for months the media ran with the story that he was somehow a white supremacist shooter, even though the people that he shot were also white. Doesn’t matter. This is about narrative, folks.

It’s about what they want to tell you is the storyline here. It’s about what they want to focus on. The biggest editorial decisions that are made every day are not even in the specific words used to describe certain incidents. It’s what they talk about and for how long and what they don’t. So just remember that as we sit here, it’s Friday.

There was a terrorist attack in New York City on the subway, and they use the term — the FBI is using the term — “terror attack.” And there’s no panels on the rise of terrorism in America, domestic terrorism, Clay. None of it. Okay. I wanted to point that out. I also wanted to say that the crime situation in cities is intolerable and ’cause it keeps getting worse and it’s top to bottom.

It’s violent crime — it’s everything you can imagine — quality of life crime, simple shoplifting. The mayor of New York City has come under a fair amount of criticism — and he should get a lot more, in my opinion — for not doing what’s necessary to turn things around. Here is Eric Adams, who is pointing out here there is a hypocrisy among BLM activists and the institutional left.

CLAY: He’s a hundred percent right, Buck. We said the first hundred days for Eric Adams has not gone well, and certainly I believe crime’s up 40-some-odd percent in New York City. I saw that stat this morning as I was doing prep getting ready for the show. Amen, I gotta say, for Eric Adams there. And, Buck, this is something that we’ve been saying on this show for a long time.

It is that people show up for Black Lives Matter protests, and then they leave, and what happens is black lives immediately don’t matter because crime skyrockets in those cities — and overwhelmingly, the victims of those crimes are black. And we talked about this a while back. There are so many young kids — many of them minority — getting shot.

When they are shot by a black person, their life doesn’t matter. The only time that a black life seems to matter is when a white person shoots them. I mean, think about this. In the way that the media covers any sort of significant crime, the only time that a black life really matters is when a white life is allegedly involved in taking it.

And to your point, Buck, I think it’s so well said. You live in New York City. We had a mass casualty event where a guy shot over 30 times inside of a crowded subway car. That guy has got a litany of issues in his past. There are videos proving that he is — beyond a shadow of a doubt — a racist. He has been arrested, Buck, nine times in New York, three times in New Jersey.

The guy had been arrested 12 times! They knew who he was, they knew he was a threat, and they put him back out on the streets, and they allowed him to wreak havoc on all of the innocent citizens of New York City. That is happening everywhere, all over this country — every single city, every single day — because of our failed crime policies.

Remember we played that Jen Psaki clip just before? Remember when she was mocking the idea of Fox News covering soft on crime? Getting arrested 12 times and being back out on the street and able to just fire 30 gunshots in a crowded subway car? That, Jen Psaki, is the definition of what soft on crime is. That exact thing.

BUCK: And you have these progressive prosecutors who even some of the left-wing residents of cities like San Francisco where Chesa Boudin, I think, is facing a recall. I don’t think that vote has happened yet.

CLAY: June, I believe.

BUCK: Yeah. It’s coming up. But they realize that this is crazy, and there’s an ideology behind all of this. I mean, decisions have been made in Democrat-controlled enclaves — and now from the top down of the Biden DOJ — to treat crime and criminals differently because they view this as a criminal justice matter. That is what’s going on right now.

The whole bail reform effort in New York was premised on its unfair; there’s a disproportionate impact of incarceration on black and Latino or black and Hispanic communities in New York. Therefore, we’re just gonna have fewer people that across the board are going to be held before they go before a judge, right? And what we’ve seen is just more crime and more people suffering.

And disproportionately, the people who suffer from this are actually black and Latino people in New York City and other cities across the country where they are more likely to be the victim of a violent crime, an armed robbery, a carjacking, whatever the category may be. And this comes from “wrongthink,” if you will, this comes from the wrong ideas.

And Democrats have them and have had them, and now I think finally they’re realizing they can either hide or back off some of this. As we’ve said, defund the police is so stupid that it’s hard to imagine that there was a time when that was the rallying cry around criminal justice for the Democrat Party nationwide and that corporations… I mean, abolish the police is actually what they were saying in some places too. This is lunacy, and we suffered because of and still are suffering because of that lunacy.

CLAY: Buck, not only was it lunacy, it was such powerful lunacy that you and I were some of the few people out there actually saying, “No, defund the police is idiotic!” There were a lot of Republicans — let’s be honest — who when defund the police was getting argued, didn’t push back and say, “Fund the police.” They either ceded the ground completely or they adopted the argument, right?

When you don’t fight back against something, you are default allowing that to be taken over, and there were a lot of people in the Republican Party who were afraid, ’cause they were afraid they were gonna get called racist — crazily — if they had said, “Hey, you know what? Defund the police is crazy.”

To your credit — and, you know, hate to brag or draw attention here, but to my credit, too — we were actually fighting this from the moment it began talking about how crazy it was and how we knew exactly what the outcome was gonna be, and it happened.

BUCK: I could even retweet this one. Back in June 14th of 2020, there were people throwing rocks and bottles at NYPD cars in broad daylight — this video went viral, and I shared it with, “Just some mostly peaceful BLM protesters here in New York, sharing their policy opinions and being responsible, law-abiding citizens,” by destroying police cars and causing a riot in the streets, of course.

Some of us knew exactly what this is right away. The Trump administration was not good on this, and I’ve had some people that try to argue this with me, and I say, “Go back. Trump was…” He got better. Trump sort of got in the cockpit. You got ready to take over things right around July when it switched more to the statues.

June of 2020, the Republican Party, the Trump administration was really caught off guard, I guess you could say, or just felt like there was too much of a movement against them, and they ceded the ideological bad to the most radical elements of the anti-police, anti-law-and-order left. And that had real consequences that we’re still feeling to this day.

CLAY: He eventually got to the right place, to your point. By July, he was saying, “Hey, we need to call in the National Guard.”

BUCK: Yeah, law and order. Started saying it. Yeah.

CLAY: But I think he actually created part of the problem for himself because you remember he sent a couple of tweets in the early days of the riots where he said, “When the rioting starts, the shooting starts” or something like that. You remember when he sent those tweets out late-night? And I think it actually hurt his ability to argue in favor of law and order because I’m remembering that, I think, accurately where he said…

Like, he was quoting from a movie or something, “When the riots start, the shooting starts,” meaning like, “Hey, the police need to come in and take more control.” But I think he said it in that way, and it actually made it harder to embrace law and order at that point. But eventually, eventually they got around to it.

The summer of tearing down statues and of rioting and of looting and all the chaos that ensued in the wake of George Floyd is something that I hope our country never goes through again. Now, we probably will because a lot of this is cyclical. But for a lot of us, Buck, I mean for me and you?

I mean, around our age, we’ve never seen anything like this before. We weren’t alive in the 1960s. We weren’t alive during the Vietnam War. We’d never seen protests that occurred like this. Maybe a little bit the riots in Los Angeles, but otherwise there’s not a lot of comparisons historically for people who are 40 or 50 years old.

BUCK: The only thing that came close was the BLM riots under the Obama administration.

CLAY: Well, yeah.

BUCK: People should remember that. That was BLM 1.0 where CNN famously had a reporter standing front of a raging inferno of a whole building that was burning down to the ground, and they said “mostly peaceful protests.” That was one of the great CNN moments of all time. That place has never — should never — regain any credibility with any serious person.

But nonetheless here we are. But, Clay, it was all rooted… You know how you knew that BLM was only going to make everything worse for everybody, which was my contention from the very beginning of it? And, see, now we’re talking about it today, folks, because we see the results. We see the result of the Democrat left policies and crime in New York, Houston, Portland, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Minneapolis.

Go down the list. Pick a major city where there were BLM the movements, activists, and progressive prosecutors all coming together — and Democrats either bending the knee or encouraging all of this — and things have gotten markedly worse. In the earliest days it was clear, when you have a movement that is based upon a lie.

Which is that that law enforcement routinely kills unarmed black men without consequence out of racism. That is the founding lie of the BLM movement, nothing good is going to come of that, folks. There is no reform that they will engage in. They will buy a $6 million mansion in Malibu, however, apparently. That we did find out.

CLAY: Yeah. And, by the way, it also leads to more violent interactions. Because police shootings are up 40%, meaning police being shot, this year so far in 2022, off of historic highs in 2021. We’re at up 40%, according to the first quarter data of numbers of police getting shot. So there are real consequences not only on the side of innocent people being murdered but also on blue lives mattering as they try and protect us all over the country.

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Twitter Board Poison Pills Musk, Corrupt Biden DOJ Bullies Tesla

15 Apr 2022

CLAY: Breaking news during the commercial break we were basically just in. Twitter’s board has released a statement that says they are implementing a so-called poison pill, is the way that it’s being crafted, in order to keep Elon Musk from acquiring the company. This is evidence that Twitter’s board is going to reject the offer put forward by Elon Musk.

I’m reading from their official statement that they just put out, Buck. Basically, what it does, “under the rights plan,” they are putting in place “if anybody or a group acquires ownership of 15% or more of Twitter’s stock in a transaction not approved by the board,” remember, right now Elon Musk has 9.2% of the company, then in the event that happens, they will trigger a new what’s called “poison pill” that will basically make it totally impossible to acquire the company.

So effectively what they are doing — what the board has said is — we are not going to allow Elon Musk to purchase this company, we’re not going to consent to it, and we’re not going to allow him to go to shareholders, either. By the way, this plan would extend all the way until April 14, 2023. So it is a one-year plan that they are implementing. Now, this is going to potentially open them up to shareholder lawsuits.

I would imagine that. The stock market is closed today for Good Friday, but come Monday, there will be a substantial reaction. Now, there’s still several days; things can happen. At a minimum, this is designed to provide them more time to try to find a different buyer. But, Buck, what we talked about — and I think this is significant for everybody out there listening — Elon Musk has offered a premium about 20% more than what the stock price is currently worth.

Stock right now is $45. Elon Musk has offered $54.20. If Twitter were being run as a normal business would be to maximize shareholder value and return, they would be accepting this offer from Elon Musk. They aren’t doing it, in my opinion, because they are afraid that Elon Musk would fair, free market, First Amendment, marketplace of ideas values, and so they are fighting to keep that from happening and maintain control over Twitter like they have now.

BUCK: Yes. They’d rather not make money and maintain control because of what this means to them ideologically and what this means across the media ecosystem. It’s so hard, I think, for people who don’t have to spend their day-to-day out there as pugilists online to understand that Twitter informs all the rest of the news coverage that you’re seeing from most of the legacy media outlets. It is largely informed by Twitter sharing and conversation.

Twitter has been said to be the assignment editor of the New York Times for many years now, right? That’s how they decide what they’re gonna cover, how they’re gonna cover it, what the storylines are. And if you ever want to know what’s gonna be said in MSNBC prime time, you just scroll through a number of well-known and widely followed leftists on Twitter and you’ll know.

It sets the opinion. It sets the storyline, the talking points in advance. And the fact that they’ve had this ability to weigh in and to change the trajectory of the American political conversation while lying to us… I think that’s really important. Twitter pretends that they don’t do this, just so everyone knows. Twitter has said for years when they would ban conservatives, “Oh, it was an accident.”

That always used to be the line, and then after a while it turned into the, “Every accident kind of goes the same way, guys. I don’t think we really buy this anymore.” And then finally in this last 18 months or so, two years or so during the pandemic, between covid and the 2020 election, it turned into, “Shut up, peasants! We control this. Build your own internet, build your own platform. Our way or the highway.”

They totally changed their story. But that’s after building this for, what, 15 years saying it was a freedom of speech platform. Jack Dorsey used to go hat in hand in front of Congress and basically say, “Oh, we believe in free speech and free expression.” Lies! They lied to people to build the company from the top down, and now that they’ve established so much control and so much of the market share in this realm, guess what?

Now it’s all out there in the open. Clay, I think the interesting angles. There are a couple of ways that I’ve seen people theorize Elon could still if he goes to enough shareholders and they come together it’s probably still doable for him to get the company. The lawsuit issue from shareholders is interesting. And then there’s also a possibility… I know you’ve been thinking this.

If Elon Musk says, “I’m going to build a Twitter competitor. I’m going to assign $20 billion of my capital to the venture. It’s going to be slick. It’s going to be totally functional. I’m going to have the best minds in the world working the tech and the back end, and it’s gonna be a free speech platform,” I think people would say, “Oh, okay I’m gonna check this out. I’m gonna give this a go.”

CLAY: Especially if he spent some of that $20 million on getting the people —

BUCK: Billions.

CLAY: Did I say million? I meant billion. (chuckles) The money gets so big. Also here, I’m a shareholder. I’ve been a shareholder of Twitter for a long time. There are going to be a lot of shareholder lawsuits because right now what’s going on is, for someone like me, Twitter is going to cost me a lot of money because they’re not selling to Elon Musk.

And if Elon Musk decides to step back, the company’s share price is going to fall even further. There are one billion percent, Buck, going to be a lot of shareholder lawsuits arguing that the Twitter board has reached breached its fiduciary duty, because they have an obligation to shareholders to maximize shareholder value. That is the essence of what the job of the board is.

And there are also gonna be a lot of people, and I’m gonna be one of them, saying, “If you’re not willing to do your job as the board, why don’t you let Twitter shareholders themselves vote?” Now, this poison pill that they are implementing, Buck, significantly says basically if Elon Musk gets 15% of the company, they are going to institute all of these different protocols.

Which basically would mean that he is not able to continue to the company. And the language that is written there, I just tweeted it out for people who are interested and want to be able to see it. And I’m not an expert, by the way, in corporate takeovers or any of these issues, but what is written here is, “If somebody gets 15% or more of Twitter’s outstanding common stock in a transaction not approved by the board…”

In the event that happens, “then each right will entitle its holder to purchase at the exercise price additional shares of common stock having a market value twice the exercise price of the right.” Now, I’m not an expert. I need to like sit down and really kind of hash out exactly what that looks like. But effectively, it’s designed to make it cost prohibitive for Elon Musk to be able to acquire the company on the open market.

BUCK: And there has been some further reporting from sources — from people claiming sources inside the DOJ — that that DOJ probe of Tesla is specifically just the Biden regime trying to use the legal muscle of the executive branch.

CLAY: Which is criminal.

BUCK: This is straight-up corruption to try to stop Elon Musk. Here’s what happens, folks. If we have an open Twitter platform going into the midterm election, then the Democrats really are at political DEFCON 1, ’cause of all the different sites that oppose them that will be able to freely share content, the arguments that will be able to be made, the stuff we can say about covid. So this is not just a corporate issue.

This is an American national, political issue, which is why the White House is weighing in on it, which is why they’re taking action behind the scenes, and they’re basically cheating. I just think everybody should know. This is how they do things: They are cheating. They are using the DOJ as a weapon to stop this from happening. Why wasn’t it such a big problem, Clay, when you had Jeff Bezos buy the Washington Post? It was great! We have a billionaire owner, yay!

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: The widow of Steve Jobs bought The Atlantic. She’s a billionaire 20 times over.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Why isn’t that a threat to democracy? The fact that these… Elon Musk’s whole thing here is, “I want a First Amendment platform, and I think Twitter would be a good thing,” and the left has shown us who they are. They are terrified by this notion. Terrified.

CLAY: All he wants to do, Buck, is allow people to say what they believe without restraining it. That is the essence of democracy, and the left wing of this country is losing its mind, and there now has been a poison pill put in place. The board, according to CNBC, unanimously voted in favor of it for the next year to disallow Elon Musk from being able to acquire this through a proxy fight.

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Psaki Says Fox’s Peter Doocy Sounds Like a Stupid SOB

15 Apr 2022

BUCK: You know how they don’t want Twitter to be an open platform? And Clay and I try to be — for all of you who aren’t even on it, we’re going to be — cognizant of the fact that this is so central to the media story right now and making it more about the political narrative and why is the Biden regime mobilizing the DOJ already on that? They don’t want — and this is the fundamental issue. They don’t want there to be alternative points of view. They don’t want people to be able to say, “Hey, you know how all this crime stuff has gotten really bad in cities? It’s the result of pandering to BLM and progressive prosecutors and all this left-wing social justice, criminal justice nonsense, and there needs to be a real cleanup in these cities and real change in practices,” right?

They don’t want to hear that. They don’t want you asking questions about it. They want you to just shut up. They say they’ve got it under control, and you see this even in the West Wing and you see this with Jen Psaki. Here she is on a progressive podcast, and this is what she says about one of the only reporters who gets to ask — or is willing to ask — real questions on a day-to-day basis, Peter Doocy of Fox News. Watch. Listen.

BUCK: I think that’s a little personal, actually. I think you could try to couch that, but I think she’s taking a shot at a journalist who does try to ask questions to challenge the official narrative of the White House. What would we have if we did not have Fox News journalists — and there’s some others who occasionally ask real questions. You called one out yesterday; I didn’t know who it was. You said that actually was a good question.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: You’ve got a people sitting there taking dictation from Psaki bomb. It’s absurd.

CLAY: Well, there’s a couple of things here. One, Psaki has already, to my knowledge, accepted a job for MSNBC, and she’s continuing to represent the White House, and also do these gallivant interviews with people who are obviously providing a very positive forum. You could hear by the question, that venue that they were doing…

I think that was a live podcast show that they were taping, that was designed to get a positive reaction. This thing that I would say is, Jen Psaki works for an administration with a 33% approval rating right now. And as a part of that 33% approval rating, she’s also insulting the network that actually has more Democrats watch than MSNBC and more Democrats watch than CNN.

I’m not a politician. But if I were a politician, I might be looking at Fox News and saying, “Hey, they speak to a huge swath of the American public which trusts them, and they employ a journalist that’s actually speaking truth to power. Maybe — just maybe — these guys, the Murdochs, know what they’re doing. And, by the way, you could also add our show, Buck. We got the biggest radio show in the country. We’re speaking to the biggest possible audiences.

BUCK: Shouldn’t it be okay? I mean, they go actually to why they hate the Elon Twitter plan so much on the left. Can half the country have one cable news channel that represents its ideas? Fox, by the way, has not had to have… Fox didn’t suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story.

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: Fox didn’t go with the Russia collusion lie for years.

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: And Fox’s prime time hosts — and you’re an employee of Fox, I go on sometimes as a guest, the primetime hosts — say that they are opinion, they’re giving their view. No. When Sean goes on, when Tucker goes on to, like, “Guys here’s what I think. I’m a conservative. Here’s what I think.” You compare that to CNN — and this has really turned into kind of an intelligence test ’cause the CNN audience is, “No, that’s just journalism!”

No, the CNN hosts are doing opinion, they’re editorializing in favor of the Democrat Party, but they have this false veneer, this propaganda line of, “Oh, no we’re just journalists, man. We’re just giving you the truth.” It’s absurd, right? But this is all crumbling, and it’s crumbling, in large part, that lie, I think, Clay, because of Twitter and social, because for years now we’ve seen people who it’s all “like, like, share, share” everything that’s anti-Trump and then at night it’s like, “Here I am just presenting you the facts.” No. They are not.

CLAY: Yes. That’s right. And also I would argue that the real reason — I really believe this — why the Democrats are gonna get shellacked in ’22 and in ’24 is because they’ve allowed Twitter to become their version of what the real world is like. They are trying to make people on Twitter happy, and when you do that, you alienate people. Charles Barkley…

This a great quote, Buck. It’s good for everybody out there. One of the best quotes ever. I was out with Charles Barkley, legendary basketball player, we were at dinner and he said, “Clay, if you worry about the opinions of people who don’t like you, then the people who do like you won’t like you anymore.” Again, if you just heard that, it’s so profound, I think it applies everywhere. Own yourself; be honest; be normal. Democrats can’t do it anymore.

BUCK: That is an awesome quote.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: I will say, Charles Barkley’s commentary in general is often full of particularly insightful moments.

CLAY: Yes. It’s an amazing quote. I don’t know where he got that quote from or if he just came up with it. It’s a hundred percent right. If you worry about the people who don’t like you — in all your lives out there, think about this as we roll into Easter weekend — then the people who do like you won’t like you anymore. In other words, you can’t make the haters happy, so why worry about them?

BUCK: It’s a great point. I’ll remember that the next time I’m getting a Twitter pile on for saying, “I love America,” and all these blue check libs, “Go kill yourself, Sexton. You’re the worst!”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: “I just thought we could all be friends. I thought we were all Americans in the trust tree, in the nest.” “Never!” They want to destroy, ’cause here’s the secret, folks: Clay and I and all of you, we’re happy. The left, they’re so unhappy.

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Coward! Biden Covid Czar Blames Masking Kids on the CDC

15 Apr 2022

BUCK: I am not gonna give this up because they’re still doing it. I was just telling you I think the libs have gone crazy, and I mean that. I think that the commies, the Democrat left, whatever you want to call them have really had a break with reality, and it’s throwing American politics into this place where it’s hard to figure out what’s coming next. And on covid, that’s where it’s most obvious.

Here is Biden’s covid-19 coordinator, Dr. Jha, justifying the masking of little kids as of today, still.

BUCK: What a coward, by the way. He’s a doctor. He’s an M.D. He doesn’t have an opinion? Notice how all these people always put it on someone else. They say, “You have to mask up, but it’s because somebody else who’s really smart says you have to mask up.” I want him to make the case for why the lowest risk group is the only group in New York City that still has to wear masks.

CLAY: Anyone who is who is arguing in favor of young children wearing masks is not worthy of you listening to any longer at all, because this is not some uncertain, difficult, on-the-edge, you can have two different sides of the opinion here. There is — Buck, you know this — zero statistical evidence that supports young children being protected in any way by wearing masks.

First of all, fortunately, they’re not at risk from covid at all, basically. The idea that we would make the people who are at the least risk from covid wear masks — which, by the way, don’t work. Anybody who has ever tried to do that with a 2-year-old, put a mask on a 2-year-old, good luck!

Good luck getting a 2-year-old to do anything that you want them to do, much less they’re snot-nosed, they’re constantly moving it around. It is one of the many heights of covid absurdity, and it is why this has to be a reckoning. It is why November the 8th has to be a clarifying, without-precedent — in my opinion — utter destruction based on covid. Really, it’s what it has to be.

BUCK: Or else we’re gonna be back here with more of this madness this coming winter but also just… We talk about freedom and how we want to defend freedom? The assault that freedom has been under during covid is unprecedented during our lifetimes. There’s never about been anything quite like what the state and what the left in particular has done to people.

CLAY: No doubt.

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Biden Shaking Hands with Nobody Is Sad, But His Lies Are Worse

15 Apr 2022

CLAY: Buck, yesterday afternoon — I see some of these videos and I just feel so bad. We were just talking about this off air — Joe Biden is speaking. I want to play a couple of the cuts, but for many of you, the moment that went viral is after the speech when Biden turns around and appears to shake no one’s hand and then looks uncomfortable and out of sorts.

And if he’s off the teleprompter at all, it definitely seems like there’s nobody home oftentimes in Joe Biden’s movements. But what they’re having him say are such transparent lies that it’s difficult to even comprehend that they think people are dumb enough to believe this.

So here’s Joe Biden talking about 70% of the increase in inflation, he says, is caused by Vladimir Putin’s price hike. By the way, this was the guy who claimed that he would always take responsibility for everything when he was president and he’s now — despite the fact that inflation has been surging for six-plus months now — saying, “Oh, the reason why we’re dealing with inflation now is Vladimir Putin.”

CLAY: Buck, do you think anyone actually believes him? And let me just say this too. Every time we play a cut of Joe Biden speaking, he sounds worse. I know he’s reading directly off the teleprompter, but do you agree? Even in the time… We’ve been on for a year. In the time that we’ve been playing cuts of Joe Biden speaking, he sounds like he is slurring more. He sounds like he is older. It definitely sounds like his deterioration has elevated to the extent where you can actually hear it, even with just the video without the audio accompanying.

BUCK: He’s clearly not up for this — he never really has been as president — and it’s embarrassing for the country. Anybody who looks at this objectively would understand this. We’re a country of 330, 340 million, give or take, right? This is not the best we can do. You know, the Democrat Party is not sending us their best with Joe Biden.

This is absurd, and it’s only possible because of the pandemic, as we’ve discussed so many times. When he lies in this way and they keep this going, all you have to do is look at a chart of when inflation really started, and it almost coincides to the day — when you look at the chart — with when Joe Biden became president.

Even Rattner now who was a senior adviser for economic matters — I forget his exact title — under the Obama administration has come out to say the $1.9 trillion that Biden spend on a purely partisan basis has really inherit in terms of inflation. That was really bad.

I mean, everyone should understand, the federal budget in a normal year is a little over three, three-point-something trillion dollars. Just throwing $2 trillion of spending into the mix at the beginning of the year isn’t a minor thing, isn’t a minor thing at all. Then want to spend $5 trillion more! So he’s blaming Putin for this, and we also want to ask then:

“Okay. So if the American people are poorer and if this is hurting us economically because of Putin,” which is not true, but let’s just follow this through for a second, “are we managing to stop the war in Ukraine by pushing up U.S. gas prices and inflation? Does anyone think this has really affected Putin’s decision-making at all? Are the sanctions having the intended affect?” I think anybody would have to look at this and say, “No, they are not.”

CLAY: We kind of hinted at this a couple days when the Quinnipiac poll most recently come out that had a 33% approval rating for Joe Biden. But I want to play you this as well, because I don’t think this argument that Putin is responsible for our inflation — and, by the way, in addition to the $1.9 million, the $1.2 trillion we decided to spend on infrastructure — right as overall inflation was skyrocketing in this country — probably couldn’t have been mistimed any more either in terms of that impact.

But CNN — even CNN — is now saying Biden’s net approval rating on the economy is the worst on record. No president has ever been worse on the economy than what Joe Biden’s numbers are right now. Play cut 10.

BUCK: You almost wonder, Clay, if maybe Biden at some level is looking forward to the annihilation that Democrats will suffer in the House and hopefully enough in the Senate the Republicans take control, ’cause then he can just say, “My hands are tied,” and they can run against the insurrection, and they can do all the usual techniques of propaganda and distraction that they used the first time around for Biden. But between now and Election Day, what is the strategy — between now and the midterms, what is the strategy — to make this any better? They don’t have one. They have nothing.

CLAY: No.

BUCK: They have no ideas, they have no vision, they have no way forward that doesn’t involve this getting substantially worse. And that’s concerning, I think, for everybody, because it’s gonna get ugly, Clay. It’s gonna get ugly for the economy. And then the Democrats’ efforts to stay in power, I think, are gonna also get really nasty.

Because what can they do other than go on the attack? “Republicans are racist! Everyone in the Republican Party is evil!” There’s nothing to point to that has worked for Joe Biden at all. Nothing. Nothing this regime has done has been good for the country that you can say is a real win.

CLAY: I think the numbers that came out in that Quinnipiac poll, Buck, are staggering if you’re looking at them and you are a Democrat: 31% approval among white voters, 26% approval, Buck, for Hispanic voters. That is, potentially… I don’t want to get ahead of myself. But if those kinds of numbers held up in the midterms, we’re talking about a total reexamination of the Democrats having to sit down and say, “What does our party stand for?”

I think that’s how bad of a shellacking it could be. If they lose Hispanics, the Democratic Party coalition doesn’t work. The Democratic Party coalition doesn’t work if they get done to 70% approval among black voters. And I think to your point, what’s gonna happen is they’re going to stupidly go even harder on “Everything is racist. Everything is sexist. Everybody is homophobic. Everything is anti-transgender.”

And they are going to continue to paint themselves into a corner because I think they’re really hold hostage by public perception on social media, which is not representative of the real world. And until they start to see some of these numbers translate in the electoral math and in the election math, I don’t think they’ve realized how much of America they’ve lost, how many people they’ve turned off, how many people are tuning out of all the accusations that they are making. And I think it’s going to be a revelatory moment for many people the day after the midterm elections come November.

BUCK: I hope so.

CLAY: Not for us, for our listeners.

BUCK: Yeah, I think the people that voted for Biden thinking that would be a return to normalcy and steadiness… You know, part of what the Democrats did when Trump was in office was create just a rolling series of fake crises, too, I mean, pre-covid. In other words, the whole Russia-collusion thing. The biggest news story in the American media for three years of Donald Trump’s presidency was an abject lie.

But it’s one that they used to tell us the president was a traitor, that we were doing the bidding of Russia, that we couldn’t trust the president, that he was a criminal. That has consequences on the public psyche. I think we’re going through a period not only of covid mass hysteria but also of political hysteria because you have these warring propaganda machines.

And I do think that on the one side, you’ve got conservatives, Republicans, people who are just like, “Look, we want to try to be happy warriors here. We think they’re important causes we want to fight for.” I mean, the left has normalized, “Everybody I don’t like is Hitler” and “Do what I say or else you’re evil and you’re a Nazi” in a way that I don’t know if we’ve ever really seen before.

I think social media’s played a big role in it. But, I mean, the discourse continues to descend. Do you see any Democrats saying, “You know what? Maybe we were wrong about…” Fill in the blank. No. They just keep lying. They just keep saying, “It’s better than you think it is.”

CLAY: Again, what I believe happened — and this has been my big theory for a long time, Buck — is covid camouflaged what would have been a seismic win for Donald Trump in 2020. And what I mean by that is that they changed all the rules, the rig job was in effect, and they managed to convince enough suburban women — ’cause if you look at the numbers, those are the people that abandoned Trump the most.

They managed to convince a lot of women — a lot of suburban white women, frankly, a lot of women now that are listening to us — because I think Trump ran… If I could change anything about Trump’s 2020 campaign, he should have been saying to women, “I’m gonna open up back schools; you are having to bear the overwhelming brunt of schools being shut down. Moms gotta get their kids educated.

“Moms gotta stay home and make sure their kids are doing their work,” and that’s why I think we’re seeing a Mom Revolution. I think we saw it with Youngkin. Republicans are finally realizing, “Wait a minute. We totally have missed the boat when it comes to speaking out to all the moms out there, and saying, ‘Democrats got this wrong, and we didn’t fight hard enough for you,'” and I think what you’re seeing in 2020 is Republicans are hitting that note better, and I think it’s gonna be significant in 2024 as well.

And that camouflage, covid fear — what I call “covid fear porn” camouflaged — what would have been, I think, a landslide election for Donald Trump. And the reason why I say that, Buck, is, getting your ass kicked is clarifying, anybody who’s ever played a sport. You know, if you pull the together the best game plan you got…

You coach soccer and you go out and you lose six-nothing, “Hey, maybe our strategy wasn’t very good.” If you lose a football game 42-3, you go back and you say, “Man, we gotta reexamine everything we did in putting this game plan together ’cause we got whipped,” and that’s what the Democrats avoided. And I think the whipping just got pushed back to 2022 and 2024.

BUCK: It does feel like the last call it 14 months or so has just been the Democrat Party being mugged by reality on a daily basis on all these different issues. You know, during the Obama years… I remember the first Obama term there was all the pushing of Obamacare and how this is gonna revolutionize health care and everyone’s gonna have it.

They had a message. You can argue with it or whatever. We can talk about how it worked, how it didn’t work, but at least there was something that they were pointing to to say, “This is what we’re doing,” and there were some people who liked it and there were obviously a lot of people who didn’t. The Tea Party was fighting against it, the Tea Party was fighting against spending at a time when $30 trillion, by the way, would have sounded like it would have ended of our country.

CLAY: They were fighting at $10 trillion, Buck. We’ve added $20 trillion in debt since then.

BUCK: But with this Biden administration I sit here and I say, “We’re in a period of high inflation, a wide open border, the biggest war in Europe since World War II, crime in major cities is getting people who can to flee in numbers we haven’t seen in decades,” and they want to lecture us about a carbon-neutral economy? That’s really where we are? They want to put out papers about transgender surgery for adolescents? Which the White House did. That’s not an exaggeration.

CLAY: You’re right.

BUCK: This is what we’re dealing with? I wonder if the period of covid, particularly for the left, has actually created not just a mass hysteria but a kind of mass mental illness that we’re all having to suffer through together as a country because their faculties of reason increasingly appear broken to me. That’s what the mainstream the Democrat Party looks like to me these days.

We can’t even agree on things that we should always be able to agree on like, “Hey, your policy on the border or your policy on crime isn’t working. Let’s do something else.” It’s like they live in an alternate universe. But fortunately, we live in reality here, folks, and it is Friday so we’re gonna have some fun, too. We’re just trying to hold the Democrat Party accountable. And that means, unfortunately, it’s rough, man, Clay. It’s a slow-moving train wreck that we are all living in together in the Biden administration.

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