Buck Talks Biden’s Ideological ATF Snub, Gun Rights

21 Apr 2022

If you’re not anti-gun enough in the Biden administration — especially if you’re running the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives — you’ll be tossed out on your ear. Buck discusses how the acting director of the agency, Marvin G. Richardson, learned this hard lesson on Jesse Watters Primetime with guest host Jeanine Pirro.

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C&B Welcome Kari Lake, Candidate for AZ Governor

20 Apr 2022

CLAY: We’re joined now by Kari Lake. She is a candidate for governor of Arizona, and you down on the border as you are in Arizona, Kari, I know you’ve got a plan for the border. Appreciate you joining us. Tell us what the reaction in Arizona has been like to Title 42 being announced that it’s going to be ended and what the expectation is for what that will mean for the border regions of Arizona.

LAKE: Thanks for having me on, guys. Well, we already have an invasion at our border. I mean, if you’ve been down there, if you’ve seen the video footage, if you’ve seen the footage from above where you watch people just running across the border, it’s going to get worse. And people are nervous. The good people of Arizona are very nervous about what’s happening because they’ve already seen an influx of people coming across and drugs coming across. And now it’s just gonna…

The floodgates are open. The question is, do we have the elected officials who are willing to do the tough work? And that means finishing that wall on the border. The materials are right there. The federal government abandoned them at the border and we need to take those materials back and finish the wall and get troops on the border — and I’m talking about our Arizona National Guard.

My plan calls for arming them and putting them at the border and literally stopping people from coming across. I believe I have the toughest border plan in the entire country. I offered it to our current governor, Doug Ducey, on January 4th before I released it. I said, “Please take this. It’s yours. You can have it. But just implement it and save Arizona from the misery of this crisis we have at our border.” Just now, he’s starting to pull little pieces from it out but you really have to go the full measure and just get very serious with these cartels. You can’t kind of half-ass it with the cartels. You have to go full bore.

BUCK: Kari, you’re in a border state, and there are people who make the case and I think it’s a fair one that under the Biden administration in particular every state that is a border state, and the governor of Texas just next door is busing migrants who cross into the U.S. illegally into Washington, D.C. That’s already happened. A number of buses have been sent up there.

But he’s trying to raise the profile of the issue so people even who aren’t living close to or along the border understand the implications of what’s really going on. What does the illegal immigration mean for your state, Arizona specifically? I mean, what are the challenges that come from people coming into the country at unprecedented numbers in violation of U.S. law?

LAKE: I was just down in Cochise County where I think it might be the worst down there. I mean, police chases with going after people who are being smuggled in have gone up 300% to 400% since Joe Biden took office. I saw footage and photos of cars that have crashed full of drugs and illegals in them. And they’re actually using social media to lure our young people into this life of crime.

They’re saying, “Hey, we need drivers! We’ll provide the gas and the car. You just come down, and it’s a thousand dollars a head to basically move people who are here illegally, illegal aliens from Cochise County at the border into Phoenix and points beyond. And so our young people are getting sucked into this world where they’re taking money to actually haul and move and transport people illegally.

Not to mention the fentanyl — enough fentanyl pouring in to kill every man, woman, and child in this country seven times over. As far as I’m concerned, that is a weapon of mass destruction, and we’ve gotta start treating this as what it is, which is a war on America. They’re trying to poison us, not trying to… These aren’t overdoses. These are poisonings, and that’s coming in — that fentanyl is coming in — through China through Mexico being trafficked by the cartels.

I was in North Carolina for the Trump rally — I’m a Trump-endorsed candidate — and they were chanting in North Carolina, “Build the wall.” This is a 50-state problem. And this is why my election, this election for governor of Arizona is the most important election in the entire country. If we don’t get a strong governor in office here who’s gonna take this border seriously, then we don’t have a country ’cause we don’t have a border. We can’t lose another border state to either a RINO — which is what I’m running against, unfortunately — or a socialist Democrat or we’ll just have another California-style border here where it’s wide open.

CLAY: Kari, you mentioned that there’s a national interest in your local state election. That also means there’s going to be a national overall storyline in 2022, and that is a referendum in some way on Joe Biden. What are you hearing as you travel around the state of Arizona about Arizona voters’ opinions of Joe Biden?

LAKE: Well, I don’t know if you’ve been following my race, but we had a corrupt election here. Our election was stolen from the people of Arizona. Joe Biden didn’t win this state. And everywhere I go, the people just as concerned about the border are concerned about our corrupt election. And this is why I’m doing so well in the polls, because I’m gonna take on both of those issues. And stolen elections have consequences.

When we put the wrong guy who didn’t win in the White House and he tears back on day one a border policy that was effective… Remember, I covered Arizona for 27 years. President Trump knew how to handle the border. Joe Biden pulled that back on day one, exposing us to drugs, crime, illegal aliens coming over. They’re gonna be taking people’s jobs. They’re going to be causing a strain to our system.

And so broken election systems and stolen elections have consequences, and we’re feeling it. People don’t even recognize Joe Biden as legitimate. And when I’m governor, I’m not gonna take orders from an illegitimate president who is hell-bent on destroying America, and I’m not gonna let him take Arizona down with him.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Kari Lake, candidate for governor of Arizona. And Kari, just if you could… I’m sure this could be a much longer conversation, but you’re saying that there was malfeasance, there was cheating, let’s just say, there was cheating in the election as it pertains to Arizona. As you know, that is the left, the Democrats completely flip out about that suggestion. They say there have been multiple audits, they say that this is disinformation.

LAKE: (laughing)

BUCK: They want to kick it off the internet, they want to kick it off of the social media platforms. What do people need to know about what we can — not what we think, what we can — prove about what happened in Arizona?

LAKE: Well, I have in my mind right now the Maricopa County forensic election audit. Now, we let the media, we let the corrupt media try to lie about this, and they did and they did a number. Whenever the media is screaming about something and saying, “No, no, no, don’t listen to that,” it usually means the opposite. We had corruption up one side, down the other here in Arizona.

Especially in Maricopa County and Pima County and several counties, frankly, but our forensic audit proved there was corruption. We have 740,000 ballots with no chain of custody. The election laws require that those ballots don’t be counted. We don’t know where they came from. We have more people voting in some towns than there are even adults the age eligible to vote, and this is happening all through Arizona.

I could go on all day. A million election files were deleted the night before they were supposed to be turned over to our election audit investigators. That’s a crime. Each deletion of each file, that’s a crime. We have votes that were counted — 34,000 votes that were counted — either two, three, or four times each. It goes on and on and on, and the people of Arizona know it.

Unfortunately, the corrupt media is trying to swash this story. But we can’t move on with all of the issues we are facing with our energy crisis — thanks to Joe Biden — and our inflation — because of Joe Biden — until we deal with the fact that our elections are corrupt. And that’s why tomorrow I’m gonna be filing an junction, emergency injunction to stop the use of these machines, these voting machines, thse electronic voting machines where there’s so many problems.

I worked hard as a candidate to try to bring honesty back to our elections. This isn’t about Republican-Democrat. This is about preserving our great country. And if we have stolen and corrupt elections and if we allow that is to stand and if we don’t do the hard work right now, we will not have a country. So our border and our elections are critical. Without honest elections and security borders, we don’t have a country.

CLAY: How confident are you, Kari Lake…? We’re talking to her, Arizona candidate, Republican. How confident are you that the 2022 election will be reliable in the state of Arizona?

LAKE: Well, I’m not a hundred percent confident otherwise I wouldn’t be involved in filing injunctions and doing everything I can. However, because we in Arizona know what happened — the patriotic people in Arizona — we know where they cheated, we know how they cheated with these outrageous dumps of mail-in ballots and these, frankly, unconstitutional drop boxes, we’re gonna be extra vigilant.

We’re gonna be watching, and we’ll do what we have to do. We’re gonna get trained to go to the polls and be poll watchers and poll workers. And we’re not going to allow them to steal this. But I believe we’re gonna have to win by a mile in order to eke out a one-inch win, and that’s why it was so obvious the cheating with President Trump, because he won in such a landslide.

There was such huge support for him in Arizona that it really exposed where they were corrupt and where they cheated. And, unfortunately, we have weak leaders who watched the corruption take place, allowed for it to happen under the guise of covid, and then they certified a corrupt election.

And now we have to do all this work. And people say, “Just ignore it. It’s too chaotic.” They caused the chaos and now we’ve gotta dig through it and repair it because we can’t as a country go forward if we have dishonest, corrupt elections. We won’t have a country much longer.

BUCK: Candidate for governor of Arizona, Kari Lake. Kari, thanks so much for joining us today. Great to talk to you as always.

LAKE: Thanks. Thanks for having me on — and please go to my website, KariLake.com, and see where I stand on the issues. If you want to make a donation, I’m being funded by the good people of Arizona and not the swamp.

BUCK: All right. Thanks so much.

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Proud Data Nerd Ryan Girdusky on GOP Prospects

20 Apr 2022

BUCK: We have our buddy Ryan Girdusky with us right now. He’s got a great Substack, the National Populist Newsletter, which I highly recommend to all of you. He’s a political consultant and analyst. Ryan, what’s going on?

GIRDUSKY: Hey, how are you, Buck? Thanks for having me on.

BUCK: I’m good. We got a lot to ask you about, a lot of things that are right in your wheelhouse, whether it’s the latest polling among Hispanic voters about the Biden administration, the school board fights — and just school instruction and CRT, and now transgender theory that’s underway.

I actually wanted to start, though, with the DeSantis Florida congressional redistricting. It feels like, at least from an outsider’s perspective, that DeSantis decided that they’re just gonna do it and they’re gonna withstand the criticism that’s gonna come their way ’cause a lot of the Democrat media is upset, to say the least, about the new districting.

GIRDUSKY: Right. Well, so the Democrats were killing in redistricting this year. We talked about this on the show. They were by far and away… They had some big, big states — California, New York, Illinois — had basically redistricted Republicans out of existence in a lot of areas they used to have seats in. Well, Ron DeSantis turned around and rather than signing the State House or State Senate bill for a new map, he made his own map.

Which would basically clear out six Democrat districts and six Democrats who, I mean, they could run but very, very, very tough time in running and winning. And so Democrats are really furious about this ’cause this will absolutely offset any gains they have made in New York, California, and Illinois, and basically make the map fairly even.

CLAY: Ryan, first of all, that’s gonna be an interesting story if the Florida House passes that tomorrow and then we’ll see whether or not it withstands court challenge because there have been so many cases, as you know, filed across the nation over these redistricting patterns.

GIRDUSKY: Right.

CLAY: But Buck kind of teased it, and I want to ask you what your read is. Most recent Quinnipiac poll, which we talked about, had Joe Biden with a the active approval rating among Hispanics. That was lower than among white people. I think white people was 31%. That set off incredible alarm bells. What is the data that you are seeing reflecting about where Hispanic voters are now with Joe Biden, and where they may be in 2022 as we are about six months out from the midterms?

GIRDUSKY: So, the Hispanic numbers are very different defending what poll you’re looking at. For Quinnipiac, they’re terrible. They’re in the low thirties. Other polls have them (audio drop) in the fifties. Republicans have never, not one time in the history of this country, won the Hispanic vote. Not in 1984, not in 2004, not in 2010, not in 2014. They’ve never, ever, ever won the Hispanic vote.

They’ve won the Asian vote. Historically, in the 1960s, they used to win the black vote, but they’ve never won the Hispanic vote. So I am very, very cautious about saying the Republicans are gonna win the Hispanic vote. Now, under Trump we saw a big boost of support among Hispanics across the entire country. Obviously in South Florida and in the Rio Grande Valley.

But we saw a big surge in Los Angeles, in New York City, and in Chicago where there is no effective Republican Party campaigning for these Hispanic voters. They just were moving. What we’ve seen in general elections and the Virginia gubernatorial election and the New Jersey gubernatorial election and the New York City mayor election is that while the Republicans probably didn’t gain much with Hispanics, they also didn’t lose from their 2020 numbers.

So it’s not like we can expect a big swing back to the mid-twenties where Republicans usually are with Hispanics. Maybe they will stay in the mid- to high thirties, maybe low forties. But I think the low forties is the most we could hope for with Hispanics — which is a major, major, major thing.

I see when you say look at races with the Hispanic vote, what you’re going to look for and where you’re going to look to see if this gain is really sizable, especially with noncollege educated Hispanic men who work very, you know, day-labor jobs, oil-rig jobs, farm jobs. You want to look at the Central Valley of California, which is huge farm country.

You want to look at the entire state of Nevada, and you want to look at south Texas, where Democrats had a monopoly on almost every one of those seats. If Republicans walk out of those — out of that election night — with, you know, eight of 10 seats, we can see that really Hispanic men without a college degree have moved extremely strongly towards the Republican Party.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Ryan Girdusky, founder of the 1776 Project PAC and also has got the National Populist Newsletter on Substack, which you can also subscribe to. Ryan, the school issue feels like right now it’s gotten… For a while, CRT was it center of it and especially during the pandemic with all the Zoom instruction that was going on.

Parents were showing up at school board meetings and say, “Hey, what are you guys teaching our kids?” and the school boards and the school bureaucrats were essentially saying, “Shut up, peasants! We teach them ’cause we’re the experts.” That didn’t go over well for them, and I know you’ve been very involved with trying to get people to run for school boards to get more accountability and sanity in the teaching of their children.

How is that program moving along? What are we see in terms of the effect that this has now still across the country? And given what’s gone on with Ron DeSantis and the Parental Rights in Education bill in Florida, do you expect — or do you expect that this is gonna be a major part of mobilization for some key constituencies going into the midterm elections?

GIRDUSKY: So, I mean, education is a huge, huge, huge issue, especially for people the Republicans are kind of like lost in the last few years: Suburbanites and women. The 1776 Project PAC which I run, 1776ProjectPAC.com if anyone wants to go on, see where they’re running or donate or anything. We’ve seen a huge surge of parents not only just wanting to run for school board, but collecting materials for what their school is actually teaching them.

Believe it or not, a lot of people assume that this is a problem in blue cities and blue counties. This is in the reddest of red counties. I’m doing right now — the 1776 Project PAC is involved in — about a dozen races coming up this May and July in Maryland, Georgia, and Texas and in Colin County, Texas, Tarrant County, Texas. These are red counties. These are counties that have for a long time supported the Republican Party and red areas of red counties.

And they have absolutely horrendous CRT going on. Frederick County, Maryland, absolutely. That was one of few places that actually shocked me. So if you think that you’re immune from it ’cause you moved to a nice Republican county or ’cause your kids go to private school, I have to tell you, that’s not gonna sit there and stop it.

The problem comes from the fact that the graduate programs in colleges, programs that teach you how to be teachers, but more importantly, teach you to be administrators. They are the ones that are infusing the CRT and teaching them how to incorporate diversity, equity, and inclusion and social/emotional learning in every form of the class from math class, to history class, science or whatever. This is really where this entire process is being fused.

And it’s gonna take Republican governors. You know, I supported the Ron DeSantis bill, but it’s gonna take Republican governors really going to these publicly funded colleges and going after their accreditation program because these are the institutions that are churning out armies of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” administrators that are funneling in schools and work — and learning how to work the system from the inside.

CLAY: Ryan, I’m really curious on the Hispanic numbers. I know you’re skeptical of some of the — like you said — Quinnipiac numbers that came out in their poll. At what level of Republican support does the Democrat Party as it is presently constituted not the work anymore and let me explain what I mean by that.

If 30% of black people started consistently voting for Republicans, the Democrat Party doesn’t exist anymore. They can’t win. Is it 40%? Is it 45%? What kind of basic number would Republicans need to get to where the Democrat coalition to get elected doesn’t work if they don’t get what percentage of those minority voters?

GIRDUSKY: So here’s the thing about the Hispanic numbers that people often forget. They don’t live in good states, Hispanics. They live in states like California and New York and Illinois, states that are not gonna flip. Probably… I don’t have the exact argument, but if Trump probably got 65% of the Hispanic vote, he still probably would have lost the 2020 election.

Romney could’ve got 75% of the Hispanic vote and would have lost the 2012 election against Obama. That it’s not they just — they don’t live in states that the black voters do. Black voters live in North Carolina and Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin, and Hispanic voters, they only live in a very few swing states: Nevada, Arizona — Texas is becoming more of a swing state — and they’re growing their populations in Georgia and North Carolina, but it’s still very, very soft.

CLAY: That’s fascinating.

GIRDUSKY: Yeah, they don’t live in important areas. What is more important is what are noncollege-educated white voters doing? Are they turning out? If you were to increase the noncollege-educated white voter — and, by the way, there’s over 40 million noncollege-educated white people who are not registered to vote. If you were to increase that by 3%, Republicans could not lose a national election, versus if you go to 65 or 70% of the Hispanic vote, they still probably can’t win.

BUCK: Ryan, do we have good polling, good data on that point to drill that a little more into among noncollege-educated white voters, top issues? Is that something that there’s been recent enough polling that we have a sense of what the top issues are? I mean, obviously assume economy, but I’m wondering is immigration right up there? What are the main issues?

GIRDUSKY: Immigration’s a huge, huge issue. It is the isolation of working-class people. It’s the fact that if you are a 60-year-old man and you sit there and you bought your house in eastern PA 30 years ago, and in 30 years’ time your neighborhood went — like Hazelton, Pennsylvania — from being 95% white, non-Hispanic white, to being 85% Hispanic, and you can’t speak the language; you feel completely isolated by your social setting.

That immense, constantly isolation feeling of noncollege-educated whites is a major motivator to why they moved to Donald Trump in 2016, especially in the Republican primary. But it’s also inflation is killing these people. Opioids are literally killing these people — and for a lot of older voters, they live in communities that are on the death’s door. There is no infrastructure.

There’s no major initiative to sit there and make sure that their kids and grandkids can stay in the same community, so you have three or four generations living in the same area. They have to move to Florida or Texas or wherever to sit there and have a chance at anything. I think those are all really the major issues that we speak to.

But most importantly, here’s the problem: Republicans on television and analysts want to scream and jump and yell that they got, you know, 5% more of the black vote nationwide but they still lost the election. They will never sit there and scream and yet and have excitement that they won more of the noncollege-educated white vote.

If Republicans would just stop being embarrassed by their own voters, that would do a lot to sit there and maybe motivate some — and actually work to sit there and get those districts ’cause vote in high numbers. One of the worst-performing districts in Georgia as far as turnout goes is Marjorie Taylor Greene’s district where everyone, if they voted, would be a Republican! So actually getting in those areas rather than have your 500th inner-city meet-and-greet, you’ll move a lot more voters in a shorter time — and the threshold actually is much, much lower.

BUCK: Ryan, I know you’re involved in a lot of projects. Where do you want people to go to follow your work?

GIRDUSKY: 1776ProjectPAC.com.

BUCK: There you go. Ryan Girdusky, folks. He knows his stuff. Ryan, thanks so much.

GIRDUSKY: Thank you.

BUCK: We bring people who bring the numbers.

CLAY: I love the data people. They probably don’t like being called nerds, Buck, but they can actually share real data as opposed to just opinion. Informed opinion is great opinion, and he really brings the numbers.

BUCK: Can confirm Ryan is honored to be called the data nerd when it comes to politics.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: He knows his stuff.

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Joy Reid Loses Her Mind Over Judge Mizelle

20 Apr 2022

CLAY: I wanted to run people into Wednesday afternoon with this. I couldn’t resist. Joy Reid, our friend — the dumbest person alongside of Joy Behar in all of media — lost her mind over this judge. I believe we have about 30 seconds from her, Buck. This is the judge voiding the travel mask mandate. She loses it. Enjoy.

REID: You’re in a tube where I feel like people cough more when they get on there! They get on the flight and everybody’s hacking up a lung, and now people are like, “Yay,” whipping off the mask. If I got on that flight and all of a sudden there was an announcement, mid-flight, I can’t get off the plane and now because this judge — who was rated unqualified! Like, she was an intern like six years ago. Now she’s a federal judge. She got on it 33 years of age. Trump’s youngest and probably worst appointment. She basically is one of those people who’s tired of wearing a mask and rules as such. For her to — by herself — be able to say no mask mandate to me is outrageous.

BUCK: It’s called the judiciary.

CLAY: Constitution of United States, Joy. I’d love to have been sitting next to Reid when that mask mandate got announced, just to rip off my mask and just be sitting as close as I could say to her, like, talking to her with my covid breath.

BUCK: As I said all along, too, if you ever want to see real confusion on the face of a mask fantastic when they say, “Excuse me, could you put a mask on? Would you wear a mask?” It’s like, “Why aren’t you double masking?”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: All of a sudden, you’ve just overridden the programming and it cannot compute.

CLAY: Thursday, Buck, I’m going down next week, eight days from now, to Orlando with my boys for a sporting event. Probably not gonna have to wear masks then. Come back on Tuesday. Will we have to wear masks then? Might flip it. It’s crazy. Stay tuned. We’ll hang out with you guys.

BUCK: We’ll bring you the sanity here, folks, no matter what they throw at us.

CLAY: No doubt.

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Have You Been Following the Johnny Depp Trial?

20 Apr 2022

CLAY: Buck, come clean: Have you been paying attention to the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard case, which is on television it feels like everywhere right now? Johnny Depp’s been on stand two straight days.

BUCK: I cannot tell a lie.

CLAY: It’s kind of captivating.

BUCK: Well, it’s been on Fox for hours and hours, so I do catch bits and pieces of it here and there. I am reminded of what I was told by a guy who had been married three times that is quite a bit older than me. He told me once, he said, “The fastest way to ruin your life is to get like a terrible disease. The second fastest way to ruin your life is to marry somebody who wants to ruin your life.” (laughs) So, it’s unfortunate, you see this going on. This trial, man, it is rough. Johnny Depp is like one of the biggest movie stars on the planet.

CLAY: Ever!

BUCK: This woman almost chopped his finger off, according to testimony. This was his wife!

CLAY: Yeah. And it brings to mind a couple things. First of all, we were talking about this off air. I think it’s very likely… People say, “Why is this lawsuit happening?” I think it’s very likely that Johnny Depp has been cost over a hundred million dollars by these allegations.

He lost his job as the villain in the new Harry Potter that, you know, if you got kids or grandkids you may be watching it, he lost his role as Grindelwald, the villain there. And they’re not allowing him to appear in any Pirate of the Caribbeans anymore, which is his franchise.

BUCK: That’s right up there with almost the Avengers I think in terms of overall box office receipt.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: Not quite Avengers level, but it’s pretty close in terms of huge sums of money.

CLAY: And he is the captain there.

BUCK: Captain Jack Sparrow. We all know Captain Jack Sparrow. You know how he came up with the character, right?

CLAY: Modeled himself on Mick Jagger, right?

BUCK: Keith Richards. Keith Richards.

CLAY: Keith Richards. That movie I would argue — maybe a little bit of an aggressive argument here. The first Pirates of the Caribbean is almost as good of a live-action movie as can be made in the modern era in that if you’re 8 years old you enjoy that, and if you’re 80 years old you enjoy that. It is almost perfectly made, I think.

BUCK: First Pirates of the Caribbean movie was very good.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: It’s along the lines of the some of your classic favorites and mine, too, like the original Back to the Future, Goonies, the original Ghostbusters, the original Goonies. It’s that level of sort of family fun, which is obviously why it became such a megafranchise.

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20 Apr 2022

CLAY: I wanted to continue this ridiculousness. Jen Psaki was asked about videos of people pulling off their masks on planes and all of the celebratory behavior. She said anecdotes aren’t data. Here’s Jen Psaki.

REPORTER: We saw a lot of Americans, you know, immediately pulling off their masks in airplanes, very happy about the change. Is the administration concerned that the public is moving on, you know, without the CDC and that the country’s in a different place than where the administration is?

PSAKI: Well, I’ve seen those videos. Anecdotes are not data, right? Ummm, and certainly that does tell us part of the story. Uhhh, but we don’t make these decisions based on politics or based on the political whims on a plane or even in a poll. But I would note in polls, they — and — and data, lengthier data, there are still a lot of people in this country who still want to have masks in place, either they have immune compromised relatives, they have kids under 5, whatever it may be.

BUCK: Can I just say, the kids-under-5 thing, this drives me insane. Kids under 5 can’t get the vaccine because they’ve been able to prove zero benefits, zero benefit to children under 5 in getting the vaccine.

CLAY: Yes. And zero danger. They don’t… They neither need the vaccine because there is no danger… So, this obsession — and I get it. It’s probably effective for lots of people who are busy and don’t actually look into the data themselves. This is why I found it so infuriating the way that the Biden White House has used kids as props during this entire covid shenanigan — and, by the way, Dr. Fauci as well. The number-one fear of every parent — something happening to your kids — they’ve convinced people that is a reality even though it’s a lie. And it is absolutely infuriating that we have allowed it to continue.

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CLAY: They needed to have the Easter bunny… By the way, that is an unbelievable story. I don’t even know that we spent very much time on it, but a White House official dressed up as an Easter bunny coming by to grab the president at the Easter celebration to keep him from talking to people on a rope line because she was afraid of what he might say. I mean, that is truly… You can’t even write something that insane.

BUCK: If I asked you, Clay, right now, you could either have Joe Biden as the president or a random mall Easter bunny…? Just picked at random, you know?

CLAY: The random mall Easter bunny is probably a little younger and a little healthier and may be more sane.

Watch the Easter Bunny Lead Joe Biden Away After He Mentions Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/p6MkRLS9gN

— Breitbart News (@BreitbartNews) April 18, 2022

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: I never would have believed this, but if you told me right now, “You could have any Major League Baseball manager, any NFL head coach, any NBA head coach as president of the United States or Joe Biden,” I would take all the coaches. It’s crazy to even suggest that ’cause there’s some idiot coaches out there. Trust me. But there are like a hundred guys in those professions that I just named; I would take all 100 of them, I think, over Joe Biden right now. That’s how bad things are — and those guys don’t know anything about politics. But at least they, theoretically, don’t have dementia.

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20 Apr 2022

BUCK: The CNN headline actually gets at some truth here, some underlying reality. Oh, my gosh!

CLAY: About politics? Is it really?

BUCK: Maybe they’re turning the corner after the CNN+ debacle to, “Let’s just actually live in reality here.” Maybe that’s been a bit of a gut check for CNN in their political reporting. “It’s Been a Very Bad Few Days for Joe Biden” is the CNN headline from earlier today, which I gotta say is true. It has not been a good few days for the Biden administration.

And you can tell that the people who wake up every day and their job is to try to find some explanation for the people out there to understand why things maybe feel like they’re not going so well, there’s problems out there — things are expensive, the gas price — but it’s actually not that bad. It’s actually good. You just don’t realize how it’s so good.

That’s getting to be a challenge — a particularly challenging thing for the Democrat-aligned legacy and corporate media. And I can tell, you know, Clay, to the point that you made earlier in the week about maybe Biden doesn’t want to challenge the mask mandate ruling from that wonderful federal judge —

CLAY: God bless that judge.

BUCK: Mizelle.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Might have to name my firstborn Mizelle. And, you know, the judge did a great job. The ruling was correct. It had all been arbitrary and capricious, stupid beyond words. And people are, in a lot of cases… It’s tough to define whether they’re rejecting the end of the mask mandate because of irrational fear or just because of that part of their brain that has to be, “We’re right.

“We’re the good people. And if this is what my side says, it must be the correct thing.” Biden hasn’t yet challenged it. They say they may challenge the masking rule in court if the CDC tells them, which is fascinating ’cause this is a game they always play. ‘Cause the CDC is in the executive branch.

CLAY: Correct.

BUCK: This is not a thing. I want everyone to understand this. I worked in the CIA for a while. CIA doesn’t have a CIA director who makes decisions about what the agency is going to do that overrules the president. No. The CIA director does what the president tells him, or he gets fired. So, Clay, this is how they are splitting it. This is how they’re going down the middle. Maybe they’ll challenge it by pretending that the CDC has the authority and not the White House to bring the challenge in the first place.

CLAY: Two points to what you just said which is exactly right. One, the reason we have elections is so we know who to hold accountable for the choices that they make! This defeats the entire purpose of elections themselves when you say we’re going to allow unelected bureaucrats to make choices. That’s the first part. It is a fundamental usurpation of the entire democratic process. Second part here, Buck.

This has got really interesting ramifications because what they said was we may challenge it if the CDC decides — I believe on May the 3rd, when the 15 days was scheduled to end — that they need to extend beyond May 3rd. I think that’s the way that they have phrased this. So you could end up in a situation, Buck, where for two weeks, basically, nobody is wearing masks on airplanes.

The TSA not enforcing the mask protocol in any way, and then according to Joe Biden’s own logic if on May the 3rd, the CDC says, “Hey, the mask mandate still needs to be in effect,” after a two-week pause when everybody basically can do whatever they want without having to wear masks, suddenly Joe Biden would say “TSA agents, you have to check masks again — and, by the way, everybody has to put masks to get back on airplanes.”

To me that is an epic bungling of the utmost sincerity, right, which makes it perfect for the Biden administration, because they would have managed to make everyone angry. And, by the way, Buck, what is more arbitrary and capricious than deciding for 15 days you don’t need masks and then suddenly you have to bring the masks back because of the CDC guideline? I think what they’re going to do is they’re trying to give a fig leaf here to make it look like this judge didn’t make the decision and then the CDC is going to say, “Okay, we don’t need the mask mandate anymore,” but they can still blame the Trump judge.

BUCK: I remember when I was a little kid, the game you’d play at summer camp, Simon Says. It was, “Touch your nose! Touch your feet! Jump in the air! Touch your nose!” It’s kind of like with mask policies. It’s N95, it’s double mask, it’s no mask, it’s yes mask. They keep changing it. It’s absurd. It’s idiotic. I’m sorry there are so many adults who got caught up in this.

And I do think at some level, are trying to suppress the embarrassment of knowing that they’ve been played for so long. And here is Scott Gottlieb, who is an establishment covidian, if you will. He was a pro-mask guy, he was a pro-lockdown guy, but he does tend to be a little bit ahead of where the rest of the Democrat herd was willing to go on this stuff. Dr. Leana Wen, for example, is willing to be —

CLAY: Well, she flip-flopped unbelievably, but yes.

BUCK: She was very much the consensus, and then she got about, you know, four to six weeks ahead of the Democrat herd. Here is Scott Gottlieb saying: Yeah, you know what would be helpful? If the CDC was a competent agent.

“The risks here from this ruling aren’t the immediate impact on public health. It was time to lift the mask mandates. The risks are longer term and what this does to potentially erode CDC’s authority,” says @ScottGottliebMD pic.twitter.com/5tE2og0vT9

— Squawk Box (@SquawkCNBC) April 20, 2022

BUCK: They have a terrible administrative record. The CDC will never be thought of the same way by anybody who’s honest and paying attention. But also notice that he’s like, “Yeah, the mask mandate should be gone. This is idiotic.” But, meanwhile, you go on social media, Clay, and all the blue checks are, “Some judge who’s not even qualified!” I mean, the White House press secretary, “Judges shouldn’t be making laws!” Do they know how the government works, actually? Do they understand the checks and balances and functions? No, they don’t.

CLAY: Yeah, and I want to play a couple of these cuts because I do think, Buck, it’s on emblematic over a fundamental lack of understanding of the entire way that our government is set up. But first I loved this one. A former Obama official, Dr. Kavita Patel, she wanted you to know that you should carry extra masks. Did you see this, Buck? Carry extra masks to give to people near you. Just listen to this and think what would your reaction be if somebody walked up, “Here’s a mask. I saw you didn’t have one.” I gotta be honest with you, I tend to be pretty easygoing. I wouldn’t respond well here’s what she does.

“Carry some extra masks with you. Carry some rapid tests with you if you’re traveling.” pic.twitter.com/iJxN8CPkmw

— The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) April 19, 2022

BUCK: This is a mental illness.

CLAY: Carry rapid tests with you? First of all, Buck, look…

BUCK: (laughing)

CLAY: I have empathy with anyone who is dealing with kids or parents or whatever else who is sick.

BUCK: (laughing)

CLAY: If someone’s setting next to me on an airplane says, “My mom has cancer. Can you wear this mask?” I would say, “No,” and I would immediately say, “Because it has zero safety to bring to bear for your mom. I hope your mom’s well. I hope she beats cancer.” This is not… This is magical thinking. It’s nonsense. It’s the equivalent of just saying, “Hey, could you sit upside down, stand on your head for this flight? Because I think it might help my mom who has cancer? I mean, it’s basically the equivalent.

BUCK: Yeah. Why not just ask somebody, “Can you just hold your breath as much as possible for the next three hours of this flight? Can you just…? Can you just try to hold your breath and try to breathe the bare minimum amount?” The masks… This is why the real, fundamental issue here — and we haven’t really… You know, this is where the removal of the mandate and our joy at this because of the end of at least the stupidity of this authoritarian boot on our necks — or in this case, masks on our faces.

The removal of the mandate crowds out that we’re not done here because the masks don’t work, folks. The masks do not do anything. Every chart, all the data, all the numbers you can look at for mask mandate and nonmask mandate… Think of all the people you’ve seen, “I did everything right! I wore a mask all the time for a year, and I still got covid!”

CLAY: (laughing) I got eight shots and I got covid. Yes.

BUCK: They’re actually surprised by this, because they haven’t thought through the basics of what’s happening in someone’s day-to-day life. You only go get a strain of covid probably one strain, one time. So that one day when you’re not masked up for your eight hours, whatever, you get it, all the masking that came before and all the masks that comes after doesn’t matter.

So, unless you’re going to live life in a hermetically sealed bubble where no germs and no aerosolized virus can get near you, this is crazy! There is a reason why we never did this before. There have been colds and flus and other things, and there has been no mass masking in the history of America since people were all completely terrified during the Spanish influenza pandemic of 1918. And you’ll notice we stopped the masking, Clay, as that pandemic ended because everyone was like, “That didn’t do a damn thing.” So this is a fundamental problem still.

CLAY: We’ve got people telling others to travel with rapid tests. So what? You’re gonna find out if you have a light cold or flu? And, what, you’re not gonna go anywhere else? Like, when you’re traveling, you’re already one place. The other thing on this, Buck, is — and I think this is important — note how quickly the conversation has shifted. Here’s the reality of what’s going on. If you want to wear a mask, you can wear a mask for the rest of your life!

The judge in Florida didn’t say “No one can wear masks anywhere anymore when it comes to airplane travel or train travel or anything else.” That isn’t part of a ruling. It’s just you can’t be forced to wear one. There’s a big difference between people who make an individual choice for themselves and people who are saying, “And, oh, by the way, you have to wear a mask too.”

I think you’re a loser personally if you are still wearing masks because they don’t work and all you’re doing when you have the big mask on, is sending me a sign that you have somehow managed to avoid the truth of the data relating to masks for two years, which makes me think you are a loser and also an imbecile. But I’m not gonna walk up to you and grab your mask and rip it off your face and say, “You can’t wear this anymore.” You just can’t force me to wear one.

BUCK: I do think it’s worth pointing out that the pro-masking crowd were okay with the monstrous scenes of people being pulled out of their church, being laid out on the aisle of an airplane. They were fine with the force of the state — the literal physical force of the state — being used to make people do something that was utterly worthless and moronic. And so I do not forgive and forget this.

CLAY: Yep.

BUCK: To your point, we have to live in society with each other and, you know, we should try to be polite and understanding of those around you to the degree that you can. But it is their side, in fact, that was ruthless and willing to brutalize people with their stupidity. It is the unmasked people — the unmaskers, if you will — who are saying, “Okay. Fine.

“You know, if you want to do this, you do this.” We’re not the ones running around that need to force everybody else to do stuff. That’s just not in our nature. And even Joe Biden, for example, is out there now saying… Joe Biden’s telling everybody (summarized), “Yeah, it’s up to you. It’s your choice.”

Biden: “I don’t know” if we will appeal the federal ruling that struck down the mask mandate on planes.

Earlier today Biden said it’s “up to [individuals]” whether they want to wear a mask. pic.twitter.com/l5ATxhThjH

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) April 19, 2022

BUCK: That’s up to them, he says. So I don’t want any of these blue check whiners and crybabies saying, “It’s making everyone die!” Your president, blue checks and libs, is saying it’s a choice matter now. There you go.

CLAY: I’m sure he’ll walk that back, because he spoke outside. He probably said what he actually believes, but he spoke outside of what his handlers will allow him.

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20 Apr 2022

BUCK: Some interesting stuff going on right now among the Democrats. Biden has just said recently — apparently he told Obama (this is what was reported) — that he’s gonna run again. I think he is. I think they’re just gonna push Biden forward and they’re just gonna say, “He’s great, he’s fine, fit as a fiddle. What are you talking about?”

They live in the unreality anyway. They live in an alternate universe as it is. They think that masks on planes are keeping them safe or something. So, saying that Joe Biden, “Yeah, he’s about to run an ultramarathon, he’s great, he’s sharp as a tack,” the whole thing, they’ll go with it. They don’t care. Yes, sir.

CLAY: He’s gonna be 82, Buck. I just don’t think we can emphasize this enough. If Joe Biden runs for reelection, he will be 82. In theory, when he finished his term, he would be 86 years old! I understand that the Democrats may be so desperate that they feel like he’s the only person that they can drag across the finish line Weekend at Bernie’s II style for those of you out there — the analogy is perfectly apropos — if he runs. I just cannot believe, Buck, that he’s gonna be out in Iowa and in New Hampshire and, like, he’s gonna be shaking hands and, like, running a campaign. It’s crazy.

BUCK: He’s gonna be shuffling around on stage, looking confused, and they’re gonna say, “Ah, he’s amazing, he’s great.” They don’t care. They’ll say anything. I mean, the Democrats that voted for him the first time were reckless, I mean, that were pushing for him the first time in the media were reckless and didn’t care about what the reality of all this is. And, yeah, they’re gonna push him forward.

What’s interesting is that you have seen some stories, though, about — and this is from NPR, so not like we’re going into the right-wing media ecosystem here. Far from it. “Potential 2024 Rivals Harris and Buttigieg Ally to Sell the Biden Agenda.” Pete Buttigieg, the former and not-very-competent-while-doing-it mayor of South Bend, Indiana! This is remarkable. Now he’s the transportation secretary, which he is also terrible at, by the way, if you go and look at any of the things the transportation department has been up to and doing, never mind Pete’s maternity… Pardon me.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: Family! Family leave.

CLAY: Paternity leave.

BUCK: Yeah, family leave.

CLAY: He was on paternity leave for a long time as we dealt with the worst supply chain crisis in the history of modern industry. So this is not a guy… Plus, let’s be honest. I mean, I think it just has to be said. Black guys are not voting for Mayor Pete. There is a zero percent chance of a gay white guy getting elected assist the nominee for the Democratic Party. He might be able to be a vice president. There is a…

You saw what happened to him whenever black voters went to the polls. They’re not… Black guys are not voting for a gay white guy to be president. They’re just not. Maybe in 20 years, things are gonna be different. It’s as if you aren’t allowed to mention that. So this is how bad Kamala is that Mayor Pete is now, like, the saving grace all of a sudden for the Democratic Party.

BUCK: And Kamala… Remember both Kamala and Buttigieg didn’t do well in the Democrat primary.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: So the people… Let’s be very clear about the expressed will of Democrats votes from their most recent primary. The big three were Biden, Bernie, and Elizabeth Warren. All old. All white.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Those are the three primary, most-vote candidates the Democrat Party is pushing for. Now, Joe Biden, of course, beat those other candidates largely because the African-American primary vote went so strongly for it him. We know this. But point is they didn’t go for, you know, diversity at the top of the ticket.

CLAY: Far from it.

BUCK: And now they have Kamala Harris as the vice president, and she was at the Vandenberg Space Force base just a couple days ago, and we wanted to share one of Kamala’s truly Kamala moments here for you:

Kamala Harris on space is truly remarkable. Enjoy: pic.twitter.com/Z5NkME491A

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) April 20, 2022

BUCK: (laughing) Is she talking to a third-grade class? It's amazing.

CLAY: Is it possible, Buck, that there is a Republican operative in the vice president's speech department that is actually just running the greatest subterfuge campaign of all time? Because what's amazing not only about Kamala Harris being maybe the worst public speaker of all time is that she delivers that speech like it's so profound. That reads like a sixth grader who has to do a speech on space and hasn't read anything. That's your vice president. Thanks, Kamala.

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