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Psaki Defends Soviet Mary Poppins

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: We have Jacqui Heinrich going back and forth with Jen Psaki. We’ll take that one real quick.

BUCK: Oh, so she’s finally willing to stand up for Soviet Mary Poppins. Look at that.

This is not gonna be something that they are able to win the argument on, I can assure you. But they don’t want to win it. They want to shut it down. It’s the whole point of their disinformation nonsense.

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Mailbag Friday: VIP Takes on Buck on The Batman

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: I just want to say, we had… (laughing) I still love this, by the way. Clay got a remarkable amount of heat, apparently, for my take on The Batman movie, which I love. It’s great. Oh, man it’s like I’m the guy who’s picking a fight in the bar and then I go into the restroom for a second, and, all of a sudden Clay like, “What’s going on? Why am I in a fistfight with five people?”

But, anyway, it’s pretty funny. We had a laugh about it. But some of you had different takes. I thought this was pretty funny. Scott, one of our VIPs wrote in, “The Batman is not a horrible movie. I thought it was too long.” Scott, it was definitely too long! Anyway… “But parts were very cool and entertaining. The Batman is way better than Wonder Woman 1984.”

I didn’t see that so I can’t speak to it. “Justice League.” True. “Suicide Squad.” True. “And Birds of Prey, which were actually horrible movies.” Yes, Scott, I agree, those were all horrible movies. “The Batman may not be The Dark Knight,” no, it is not, “or Batman from 1989,” the one with Michael Keaton, “but it certainly is not a dumpster fire of a movie.”

I agree with a lot here, Scott.

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May 6th: Clay’s Mom and Buck’s Mom On the Air

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: My mom, Clay’s mom, next Friday on the show. Gonna be answering some questions, and we have a line set up for them. We gotta get all this stuff squared away here. It’s posted at the website. Go to ClayAndBuck.com, and there’s a call-in line.

Check this out: A call in line. If you want to ask my mom or Clay’s mom a question, you can call in and leave a voicemail. They will pick some question to pose to the moms, and they’re going to — on air — respond to your questions. So, go to ClayAndBuck.com for that. You can find out the truth. Was I the lead in the fifth-grade play in school?

You know, whatever you want to know. What was my first pet? Hint: Not a dog, in fact. Not a dog. There was a time when — that’s right — I had another pet. I don’t want to give it all away. I don’t want to give it all away. I don’t want to give it all away! So, you gotta ask questions for us. You gotta check in on us there.

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WH Journos Admit: We’re Biden’s State-Controlled Media

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: I want to tell you about this story in Politico that I thought was really interesting. The Biden administration is in a freefall. That’s clear. I mean, the data supports this now. There was a Susquehanna Federalist poll just yesterday. GOP up plus 10 on the generic ballot. Biden approval 39, disapproval 54. Favorable-unfavorable, 43-52.

Seventy-five percent, according to this poll, think a recession is coming. Seventy percent support laws like Florida’s Parental Rights in Education law. Fifty-nine percent support the buyout of Twitter by Elon Musk. So we see a trend happening here, to be sure. Meanwhile, as they get prepared for the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, which I have been to, so I have some pro tips for life that I like to share with people for whatever it’s worth, things I’ve learned the hard way.

One of them is that banquets are almost never fun. (chuckles) So just remember that. I know it seems like it could be fun but really is it going to be fun? You know, the dinner with like 2,000 people and you’re gonna be eating rubber chicken. If you’re me, you’re gonna have to have 15 minutes of conversation about, “No, no, no, gluten is not dairy. I can’t have… I have celiac disease.” It’s always very tough.

All the good hors d’oeuvres I can’t eat them they always have flour in them so I’m not a big banquet person. But let me tell you being a conservative at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner, which I went to… Oh, gosh, now it’s like ten years ago. Yeah, yeah. It was so early on that they didn’t know what a right-wing lunatic I was, I guess, so I was able to go to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner at the time.

And it’s a little bit like you’re an escaped zoo animal when you’re there because all the other journalists say, “I think I’ve seen him before. Who is that? It’s one of those one of those Trump supporters in the media! Who let him in there? Have Jeeves, have the butler, escort him out,” masked, of course, because all the support staff and all the people that are working, they have to be masked.

Of course, not the fancy people who are going to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner — and Fauci’s not going ’cause he’s too scared. He’s too scared of this one. When that ends, I just wonder. I wonder how much longer he can keep this going. But here’s what I think is so interesting. You would think that at this point in time, there would be a recognition that anyone who’s…

Wow, there are people in the West Wing, there are journos in the West Wing — I’m seeing it right now on — who are masked up. What are they do? What are they doing? Kamala Harris just came down with covid. What is it, the deputy or White House communications director, one or the other, Beding, Bedingfel, Bedingfield? She just came down with covid.

Quadruple vaxxed and already a double masker, I’m sure. But, remember, the lesson that the Fauciites take from all of this is: If you get covid, if you’re one of the — let’s call it — 250 million people in this country who got covid, the left believes it’s because you didn’t mask up hard enough. If you had only masked a little bit more, perhaps you would not have gotten covid – twice, like I have, by the way – and they can’t seem to come to grips with the reality of this White House.

And a part of that is, this piece, “The Rise and Fall of the Star White House Reporter.” This is a whole piece in Politico which for those who live inside the Beltway — and I know a lot of you are saying, “I don’t care they work there,” but we’re gonna make fun of the journos so this will be fun. For those who live inside the D.C. Beltway, Politico is like the cool kid journal.

You know, it’s like, yeah, this is what the consensus, political opinion of people who live in Northeast Washington, D.C., and Northern Virginia think about what’s going on in America. They don’t venture out very much like the rest of America, certainly red state America ever. This piece, “The Rise and Fall of the Star White House Reporter,” is all about how they’re upset that this White House just doesn’t have more interesting stuff to cover.

What a loss it is that there’s just not more interesting stuff about this White House because it’s so professional. It’s such a well-oiled machine. Biden yesterday had a computer chip malfunction in the middle of a sentence that we all saw. The (sputtering) “kleptocracy” thing, remember that? He had a malfunction.

You’ve got a guy who does seem very much to be in the early stages of dementia and possible senility in only his second year now, in his first term in the White House. You have the highest inflation in 40 years; the biggest war in Europe since World War II; the worst, most lawless southern border in memory probably ever; the biggest rise in crime, and notably homicide, nationwide in 30 years, maybe 40 years.

Some say actually since we’ve been really collecting statistics on this starting in around the 1960s. So perhaps all-time high increase nationwide and the murder rate, a Biden administration that’s unable to get anything done or have any solutions. And the press corps is writing pieces about how, “Yeah, it’s just so hard to, like… like… What do we even say! Like, these guys are just pros. They’re just so good at this, the whole, like, being the White House thing.”

They really believe this. This Politico piece. “For years covering the White House was a kind of golden ticket in the media. Then came the Biden administration.” These are quotes from the piece. “‘Jen [Psaki] is very good at her job, which is unfortunate,’ one reporter who has covered the past two administrations from the room said. ‘And the work is a lot less rewarding, because you’re no longer saving democracy from Sean Spicer and his Men’s Wearhouse suit.

“’Jawing with Jen just makes you look like an [bleep].'” I can’t even say it here on the radio. They’re really… This is a whole piece written by what is the cool kids’ table at the White House association dinner, Politico, right, with all these different journos who cover the White House for ABC and CNN and whatever. Their complaint is, “Man, it’s just so hard to find something interesting to say about the functions of this White House!”

Think about this. The Biden White House is a dumpster fire with discarded nuclear rod thrown on top of it with old napkins from the burger joint thrown beneath it. This thing is a mess beyond words, and the thing that they come up with is (summarize), “Man, they’re just so smooth. They know exactly what they’re doing. Nothing to say. Nothing to say.”

Oh, here’s another quote from the piece. I just want you to understand the disconnect that you and I have from what the people that write about politics all day in D.C. actually see here. This is another quote from the piece: “‘It’s a boring and difficult job. It’s tough to be a White House correspondent if you want to break news, they’re so airtight,’ another reporter who covered both the Trump and Biden White Houses from the briefing room.

“‘There’s no Maggie [Haberman]. Who’s the Maggie of the Biden administration? It doesn’t exist.’” Notice the way that this is all self-justifying for the fact that they won’t actually do their jobs, which is try to find information that the White House does not want to be public, to find out what is really going on, to speak truth to power, to confront power.

To be willing to call out the federal government – the White House, in this case, under Biden – for what they’re doing wrong, for what they’re misleading the public on. No. They want you to believe that everything is just going so well, and this White House is just so slick, that there’s not much for them to say or do. They are telling you — they are saying out loud, in effect — they are state media.

They view themselves as being the praetorians, as being the inner circle defenders of the Biden regime. That’s what this is. We don’t have to make it up. They’re telling you this. “Like, oh, man, it’s so hard!” Joe Biden walks around muttering nonsense, looks confused — gets lost, it seems, on the long walk from Marine One to the White House — and sure enough, they want to tell you, “There’s nothing to see here, nothing to see.

“It’s just, you know, man, the adults are in charge.” Nothing but losses, catastrophe, bad decision-making, absurdity, Green New Deal nonsense talking points whenever you bring up energy. Just go down the list. The admission that, yeah, invasion of Ukraine probably wouldn’t have had under Trump, and then they say, “Oh, because Putin was getting so much of what he wanted from Trump,” which is just laughable, but he didn’t invade under Trump, he didn’t invade under Biden.

Why? Oh, I don’t know. They want you to know ’cause Biden’s so good on foreign policy. See, it’s the opposite of the truth all the time. It’s not just that they get it wrong. It’s that whatever the truth is, they go in the opposite direction and try to convince you of that. Including the people whose livelihoods, whose jobs — whose reasons for getting up in the morning — is supposed to be to speak truth to power.

Anybody buy that about this White House? “There’s just nothing interesting.” It was remarkable reading this. “Oh, there’s no star repoerter!” You know the star reporter covering this White House? Doocy for Fox. Jacqui Heinrich for Fox. You know why? ‘Cause they actually ask real questions. It’s amazing. You would think that if people thought they could get away with doing their jobs as journos for the other networks out there, you would think that they would take this as an opportunity.

I don’t know. Ask some real questions. But no. You ask some real questions of Jen Psaki? You push back? You are not at the cool kids’ table at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner, and you will not be eating that reheated mediocre rubber chicken and taking photos with C-list celebrities. So who cares the republic is in peril! There’s fancy events to attend in northwest D.C.

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Andy McCarthy’s Theory on How the Bidens Could Skate

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: Our friend Andy McCarthy with us now. He is at National Review, also a Fox News contributor, and spent over 20 years as an assistant U.S. attorney at the Southern District, the mighty Southern District of New York. Andy, thanks for calling in. Andy?

MCCARTHY: Buck.

BUCK: There he is! Good to have you. So, tell me this. I’ll start with one of the big ones, then we can get into some of the details. Why shouldn’t there be a special counsel assigned to look into Hunter Biden and possible corruption and payment to Joe Biden, whether he was vice president or whatever? What’s the case for, what’s the case against?

MCCARTHY: Well, the case against — which I’ve made any number of times before I was radicalized by the intolerable double standard on this, and I say that, Buck, simply because we all that know if Biden were a Republican, there would have been a special counsel, like, three years ago, right? But the good reason not to have one is that the institution is a pernicious institution, that is the institution of the special counsel.

It doesn’t function like an ordinary prosecutor. It targets one target. Most prosecutors, if they don’t have time to make a case, they close the file and move to the next case. Special counsels notoriously, you know, spend too much money and too much time and they generate a lot of process crimes. Those are crimes that are caused by the investigation instead of the crime the investigation is meant for. So there’s a lot of downsides to it.

And, you know, to the extent that people delude themselves into thinking that special counsels are independent, they’re not. They report to the Justice Department because in our system, ultimately prosecution is a executive responsibility. So they have to report — in order to be constitutional, they have to report — to the attorney general and ultimately the president. So those are the downsides.

The upsides are there’s a regulation that the Justice Department is bound by, and you can say it’s a good regulation or a bad regulation. The fact is it’s a regulation and they’re supposed to follow it, and it says that anytime the Department of Justice has a conflict of interest in a case where it is in the public interests to have an investigation, you’re supposed to have a special counsel.

And we’re dealing with a situation in which the Biden Justice Department is investigating the Bidens. And I think one of the real downsides here is people should stop referring to this as “the Hunter Biden investigation.” Hunter Biden and his taxes are the least significant element of this investigation. And we already know that a number of the Bidens are involved in it.

That’s not saying that a number of the Bidens are guilty of felonies. I haven’t said that but certainly their conduct is obviously part of what’s being investigated here, if the public reporting is accurate that what the Justice Department is looking into are these streams of payments from foreign sources, including regimes that are hostile to the United States, millions and millions of dollars that went into the Biden family coffers.

BUCK: Andy, what about this investigation — ’cause I think we can both assume safely that the Biden DOJ is not going to.. (chuckles) It’s not going to assign a special prosecutor to look at Joe Biden’s possible felony activity with regard to his son or any of that, right? Is it safe to say you think there’s no chance of that?

MCCARTHY: Well, I think there’s very little chance of that unless there’s a significant change in the political climate, including if the Democrats decide that, you know, Biden’s a lost cause and he’s not a hill worth dying on or something like this. But I agree with you, Buck, the chances of them appointing one when they haven’t up until now, and when their storyline is that the U.S. attorney in Delaware…

And, by the way, I have no reason to question that the U.S. attorney Delaware seems like a fine guy. Everyone I’ve talked to tells me he’s a straight arrow. He’s much more like Durham than Mueller, I’m told. So this is not an indictment of him, and the other thing is, I don’t mean to go on about this, Buck, but —

BUCK: It’s all right. My next question was about that guy and what’s happening there, but keep going. So —

MCCARTHY: Yeah, well, what I was gonna say is, you know, Garland in his Senate testimony the other day got very indignant as if, “You know, you don’t trust me to do the right thing here? How dare you!” And as you and I know from law enforcement, we don’t rely, in our system, on the integrity of officials for investigations to function properly. We hope we get officials with integrity, but we enact regulations and rules in order to take that out of the hands of the people who are making decisions.

And the thing is not whether we trust Garland or not – and, you know, look, I think the Justice Department’s been politicized enough under Biden that there’s a lot of good reasons not to trust him. But, you know, I’m willing to say, you know, that Garland’s a reasonably honest guy. The point is we have a regulation because the Justice Department is supposed to strive for a standard of avoiding the appearance of impropriety.

So it doesn’t matter whether we trust Garland or not. What matters is, there’s a regulation. Are they following it? And when Garland says, “There isn’t going to be political interference,” my answer to that is, “There’s already political interference because there’s a clear regulation, and he’s not following it — and the only reason he’s not following it is politics.”

BUCK: Yeah. Speaking to Andy McCarthy, everybody, NationalReview.com for his latest. Andy, do you think on this investigation that specifically Hunter Biden, if they really have multiple felonies that are provable and that the evidence is, you know, beyond a reasonable doubt that there’s a problem here, do you think that there’s a future in which they actually would bring charges against the sitting president’s son given all the factors at play?

MCCARTHY: Yes, and here’s why, Buck. And this is actually a cynical answer even though I… So I want to make sure I let everybody down easy before I start, right? Here’s the interesting thing. The most interesting thing about the Biden investigation is the streams of money from foreigners and people who are connected to these corrupt and hostile and anti-American regimes and the millions of dollars are going to the Bidens.

So they’re looking at this as money laundering. They’re looking at it as, “Did the violate the legal obligation to register as a foreign agent if you’re doing business for foreign persons and entities and regimes and all that stuff?” That’s the interesting stuff. But what I would caution people is they keep saying that this is an investigation into Hunter Biden’s taxes.

And just to give a little inside baseball here: In almost every kind of investigation in the United States, the district United States attorney runs the investigation with very little interference from main Justice, which is the Justice Department in Washington. A big exception to that is tax investigation. Tax investigations are run by tax division at main Justice.

Regardless of whether, you know, the U.S. attorney is investigating other times that tax division doesn’t have authority over, because you have to get approval from main Justice tax division to bring charges. So I think that no matter what we think of Weiss in Delaware, the U.S. attorney, we ought to bear in mind the fact that there’s an unusual amount of main Justice supervision over this, number one.

And number two, I could easily see a situation — because no one in America cares about tax evasion. Everybody has known who cares about informing himself, that Hunter Biden has tax problems. They go back. He had liens on his properties in, you know, 2017, ’18, ’19, whenever they started. But this has been well known for a long time and it’s been reported that he’s paid some back taxes.

Because I think his counsel has advised him that, you know, the best way to try to avoid being prosecuted — or if you are prosecuted to get a light sentence — is to make sure you pay your back taxes back. I could easily see a situation where they drag this out — tax investigations are notoriously slow — and ultimately they take a guilty plea from him on a year or two of tax evasion, and they sew it up without doing any of the money laundering, without doing any of the foreign agent registration and without getting into the Biden family implications of it.

And this way the Justice Department can say, “See? We prosecuted the president’s son.” Biden, the president, can say, “See? I didn’t interfere.” And in the end, they’ll be able to say there was a prosecution, but it won’t be about anything that anybody thinks is particularly important here.

BUCK: You think if that happens, Andy, you just get the president commuting the sentence of his son on the tax charge? Does he pardon? How would you see that playing out?

MCCARTHY: You know, I think Biden… Hunter’s not again get a big sentence for tax evasion, Buck, under circumstances where he’s paid the back taxes. I mean, the money items here in terms of prosecution are money laundering. That’s where the real penalties are. I think, you know, he’s gonna go before the court and they’re gonna clean him up and he’s gonna say, “I’m a (crosstalk).”

BUCK: So you think maybe he does a couple weeks at climb club fed or a halfway house or whatever, the Biden administration says, “Yeah, look at us! We’re so honorable,” and then all the big stuff just fades away?

MCCARTHY: I do. I think there’s a very real possibility of that, and I’m not sure so sure, Buck, that even if there were a special prosecutor, that that doesn’t happen. Because, again, to say what I said at the beginning, there should be. If we’re gonna treat everybody equally, there should be a special prosecutor here because they have always have one in a Republican situation.

But its remember: Special counsels answer to the attorney general and ultimately to the president. And they have to follow Justice Department rules which would mean they presumably have to follow tax division guidance. So special counsel is hardly a perfect solution here period of time.

BUCK: Andy, just before we let you go, I’m wondering: Do you hold out that there’s any real possibility of big stuff coming in the Durham investigation or has it just dragged on so long, so far that it’s gonna go out with a whimper and not a bang? Where do you think that’s likely to fall?

MCCARTHY: Buck, in the last couple of weeks in the lead-up to the Sussman trial, which is supposed to start, I think, May 16th, what Durham has said is he still has a pending, open investigation. He hasn’t decided whether to indict a case for fraud against the United States. He has theorized that there was a fraud against the United States which was basically driven by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

But he has said he hasn’t made up his mind about things like whether the information on this ALFA Bank stuff that they brought to the FBI and to the CIA, whether it was simply insufficient to predicate an investigation or whether it was actually fraudulent, that they fabricated stuff to make it look worse than it was. I don’t know why he hasn’t decided that up until now — seems to me it’s been a long time — but he does say he’s still looking at it.

BUCK: So it’s not over yet, Andy. Is that fair to say? I mean, in a meaningful way it’s not over yet.

MCCARTHY: According to Durham himself, he’s told the court that, you know, they wanted immunity for this tech executive who worked with Sussman — the defense did — because they want to call him as a witness. And Durham says, “I’m not immunizing him. He’s still subject of investigation. We haven’t decided whether to charge him yet or not.”

BUCK: All right. Andy, we’ll have you back to talk more about it as it develops. Andy McCarthy, everybody. Andy, thanks so much.

MCCARTHY: Thank you, Buck.

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Alex Updates Us on Berenson v. Twitter, Moderna’s Push to Vax Kids

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: We got our friend Alex Berenson joining us now, author of the fantastic book Pandemia. Buy it! It will upset the Amazon libs. Buy it. And also, subscribe to his Substack, Unreported Truths. Alex, thanks for joining us, man. We got a couple things to talk to you about today.

BERENSON: Yes, yes. Good to talk to you, Buck.

BUCK: And you’re not calling us from inside of a Chinook helicopter with three screaming children in the background, which I also very much appreciate.

BERENSON: (laughing)

BUCK: So, thank you for that. Tell me this, man. Do you want to start with Twitter stuff for a second here because we talk a lot about covid? Let’s talk about Twitter. You have a lawsuit against Twitter. You are one of the people who famously was booted for a tweet that now in particular was correct.

I mean, it was correct then but now everybody knows it was correct, so you’d think that you’d be one of the first ones to be brought back on. But you’re actually suing them. So, bring us up to speed with Berenson v. Twitter, but also what you think of you Elon’s purchase here.

BERENSON: Sure. So, Berenson v. Twitter is my effort to say that, you know, I’ve been damaged by the — you know, banned from the platform. I should be back on the platform and, you know, I have other damages too. Typically, these lawsuits have not gone very far because there’s this provision in federal law called Section 230 that gives the companies a lot of power about their decisions, about, you know, who they can allow on the platform.

You know, and my case I believe is considerably stronger than most other cases for a couple reasons. One is that I — and this is all in the lawsuit. One is that a Twitter executive repeatedly, you know, contacted me, and I was in contact with him and he discussed what I was doing. You know, and so I was operating and tweeting, you know, with the knowledge of Twitter.

And they never really objected to anything that I did until — really until July of 2021 when they came under tremendous pressure from the federal government, and, you know, and the rest of the media about my tweets and about some, you know, comments I’d made about the vaccines.

Which, as you say, have mostly been borne out, if not entirely. So that’s one reason, and another reason… So, I have facts that other people don’t have. And I also have a really good lawyer who has pointed to some provisions in California law and the California Constitution — and California, of course, is where Twitter is based.

The California Constitution is very free speech protective, and California law has a number of decisions — and, you know, what people on the left love to say is, “Twitter is a private company, and private companies can do whatever they want on speech!” When it comes to, you know, censoring speech, suddenly the left loves the fact, you know, that private companies, it’s private property and they should be allowed to treat it however they like.

Which is fascinating, right? There should be no government regulation when it comes to this issue. But, actually, the California Constitution and California law say explicitly — and there’s a number of California court decisions on this — that large, private companies can be viewed as quasi-public and can be subject to, you know, essentially allowing people to speak, even if it’s in ways that the owners might not like.

And, again, California. Twitter’s in California. So Twitter can say, “Well, because of Section 230 this California law shouldn’t apply to us,” and that creates a whole, you know, very interesting set of questions around the First Amendment and around, you know, federal versus state law. So we have legal questions that have not been answered before.

You know, we have novel legal arguments. But we at the core also have this argument about what Twitter promised me and whether or not those promises rise to the level of a contractual obligation, and whether when they struck me, they had any… You know, they were following their own rules, their own explicit rules. And I am happy to tell you that yesterday at the hearing in California…

So this is being heard in a federal lawsuit in California in the Northern District of California, which is San Francisco, before judge named William Alsup, and he heard the case for the first time yesterday and I’m happy to tell you he seemed… You know, he seemed to at least ask all the right questions about this. Now, I don’t know how he’s gonna rule.

He’ll rule how he rules and hopefully we’ll find that out soon. But he didn’t throw it out from the bench, which I think a lot of people — you know, certainly Twitter would have hoped that he would do that, that he would just say, “Hey, this case is dismissed’ it can’t go forward,” and he asked Twitter’s lawyers a lot of pointed questions. And this is not just me saying this.

There’s an article that Politico wrote — and Politico, you know, is a fairly liberal media outlet — where they pointed out that he had actually said to Twitter yesterday, “Hey, let’s get some discovery on this, let’s get some depositions,” meaning, “Your executives maybe should be questioned under oath about how it is that you decided to throw this guy off.

“And maybe we should see whether there’s any communications between you and the federal government, you and, you know, other social media companies, you and pharma companies. Let’s get into what’s going on here.” Now, again, he hasn’t ruled yet, and he could still throw this out in a ruling. But that didn’t feel like the tenor of the hearing to me yesterday.

BUCK: Speaking to Alex Berenson, author of Pandemia, check out his Substack, Unreported Truths. Alex, you worked at the New York Times years ago, and so you understand that world and the alleged ethos that journalists are supposed to go operating under in a variety of contexts. What’s it like for you to see pretty much the most hallowed liberal newspaper and cable news channels — for whatever that’s worth — effectively say, “Yeah, we don’t agree with free speech?”

BERENSON: It’s so disheartening, Buck! (laughing) It is so upsetting to me. You know, they basically, you know, over the last couple years, you know, have run away from free speech — and I’m pretty much a free speech absolutist. Okay? I believe the answer to bad speech is more speech. The answer to good speech is more speech. We…

Speech and the right to debate is a fundamental precept of democracy. And, you know, people say, “Oh, it’s so complicated to regulate speech online.” I think that’s nonsense, okay? I think it’s actually quite simple. Look, free speech doesn’t extend to infinity. If you and I, you know, have a conspiracy to commit murder, we can’t say, “Oh, well, we were just talking. That doesn’t mean anything!”

If I… You know, if I have, you know, child pornography in my — you know, that I’m getting through the mail, like, that’s illegal. Okay, there are — and, by the way, even something as simple as like, you know, you’re in a public park, I can’t stand in your face screaming for four hours straight. Right? At some point I’m harassing you.

It rises to the level of harassment. So these decisions… Like very, very broad limits on free speech don’t mean no limits on free speech. But we are able to make this distinction offline, and we can very easily make it online. And this notion of Twitter is gonna be a cesspool of porn and people yelling at each other —

BUCK: It already is!

BERENSON: Exactly. Exactly right. The left uses this as an excuse to ban people like me.

BUCK: Yeah, I was gonna say, their censorship-ish, if you will, is about covid restrictions, election stuff, transgender issues, diversity and inclusion, and policing, and race, and that’s where they actually have a problem. That’s where they want to shut everybody down. (chuckles) It’s not on these other things.

BERENSON: That’s right. They don’t care that there’s porn on Twitter. You know, and by the way, you know, to go back to Berenson v. Twitter, the reason radio — this is so important — and the judge actually asked yesterday. He said to Twitter, “Look…” He said, “You know, you’re gonna have a new owner, and he may feel differently about this lawsuit. Why should I continue to hear it?”

And Twitter said — and I think in this case they’re correct. They said, “Look. We may have a new owner. That deal may go through, but it hasn’t gone through yet and, for the time being, this is our position.” And, you know, from my point of view, Twitter… I’m not allowed on Twitter right now. Whatever Elon may or may not do in a few months, I’m not allowed on there now.

So, this lawsuit should continue. That is the probably the only thing Twitter and I agree on about this. But whether or not Elon takes over, my right to speak on this incredibly powerful platform that, you know, that has hundreds of millions of people on it, that is my most — you know, my best outlet to petition the government — it really is as a journalist, Twitter is — should not be dependent on the whims of Elon Musk, okay, ’cause let me tell you:

If Elon owns this thing and I get back on there, the first thing I’m gonna start doing — maybe not the first, but maybe the first — is writing, you know, negative stuff about China, okay? Just to try to prove to Elon Musk that I want to see that you’re serious about this, okay? And because China has a lot to answer for, let’s be honest.

BUCK: Yep.

BERENSON: But, like, we shouldn’t be dependent on Elon Musk. These are rights that, you know, that are in the California Constitution — they’re in the U.S. Constitution — about free speech. And that’s where our rights should come from. It shouldn’t come from the whims of a billionaire, even if those whims I agree with.

BUCK: Alex we’ve only got a minute or two here, but I’d be remiss if I didn’t ask you. Clay and I discussed this a little bit yesterday, Moderna wanting an emergency authorization for under…? What is it, 5 and under vaccination?

BERENSON: Yeah.

BUCK: And this comes at a time when you’ve probably seen on social media there are some of these people purporting to be parents — I can’t verify this — who essentially say they haven’t let their children out of the house to see other kids and do anything in two years.

BERENSON: Right. Well, I mean, you know, those parents now need to be, you know, beaten about the face and neck. What can I…? It’s not a joke anymore. Like, this is now child abuse and should be treated that way. You know, as for Moderna, there’s that famous old cartoon: “How about never? Does never work for you?” You know, that’s how I feel about, you know, these vaccines for kids. The risk-benefit, it is insane. Anybody who’s had a child who’s gotten Omicron knows. I mean, again, there is this tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of kids who, you know, have severe comorbidities going in and could get really sick.

BUCK: Do we have one example, Alex, that is confirmed of a healthy child in that age range without a severe immune-compromised situation which means they’re susceptibility to approximate a whole lot of other viruses too, who has died from Omicron? Do we know of a single one?

BERENSON: The short answer to that question is no. I mean, I believe in Britain they said they had a handful, but they don’t disclose obesity status. So, I mean, even these kids who aren’t — you know, are not like, again, either immunocompromised or late-stage cancer. You know, a lot of the kids who’ve gotten really sick are… You know, they are off the charts on BMI. Again, for healthy kids, look even if they can find a case, like one case, the fact is for healthy kids, this is barely even a cold. They should not be vaccinated against covid with these mRNA vaccines because —

BUCK: Hopefully you’ll be able to say that on Twitter soon and not just here on the show, although a lot of people listen to this show, Alex. Thank you very much for joining us. Check out, Pandemia, Unreported Truths. You got another book coming out soon too?

BERENSON: Well, first things first. But, Buck, have a great weekend, man.

BUCK: All right. Have a great weekend, Alex. Thank you.

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Pelosi Blames High Gas Prices on Evil Corporations

29 Apr 2022

PELOSI: Here’s the thing: There are many aspects to this, but the price of gas and the price of oil have an impact on the price of many other things, including the price of, uh, food. So lowering costs at the pump, lowering costs at the kitchen table, that’s what Democrats are about.

And again, we’re going to be getting down this path with very serious legislation that is, for now, recognizing covid and what that has done to supply, Ukraine, what that has done to supply, but recognizing there is ongoing exploitation and manipulation that is unfair to America’s working families.

BUCK: I just want Nancy Pelosi to explain why this manipulation and the inflation and the price gouging and all this stuff magically happens all of a sudden when Joe Biden is in charge and the Democrats have a majority in the House and a de facto majority in the Senate. I just want to know how that happens. Could she try to explain that?

“It’s a very unlucky situation.” Yeah, we all understand that they have the unenviable task of defending the indefensible with the Biden record so far. But could the lies just be a little more clever? That’s one thing I would love. I just wish that Nancy would sit around and say things that would either be amusing or at least make me think a little bit.

This notion of price gouging from the gas companies and the big, evil corporations and all this stuff. I’m sorry. No. Not gonna fly. That’s not what the problem is. But the other side of this is that if they just do what is necessary to turn things around — whether it’s at the border or on energy production or, you name it — they will be making an admission one way or the other that they were wrong and that we were right.

And that’s really what this is. That’s a huge part, by the way, of the intransigence over masking and over vaccine mandates. I think more so than anything else, in the leftist Democrat mind, admitting they were wrong about something is far more painful than continuing to suffer from their dumbass ideas. That’s honestly what I think! That’s where they are.

It’s a lot harder for them to say, “Man. Turns out you guys are right. When you make it harder for companies to produce domestic fossil fuel energy, we are more at the whim of the Russians, and we have higher prices, and it’s a problem.” Turns out they won’t just admit the very obvious. “Spending more money makes inflation worse. So, we should probably stop trying to spend even more money.” They will not admit these things.

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Elon’s Chart of How the Left’s Gone Mad Sparks Culture War Debate

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: There’s a really interesting debate that is underway right now between some of the voices in the media that think they know a lot about this stuff, because Elon Musk has said — and he’s putting out stuff on Twitter. He has said, first of all, that wokeness is “divisive, exclusionary, and hateful,” and he’s absolutely right. He has referred to the woke “mind virus,” and that is absolutely what it is.

And he has said also that the Democrat Party… And he shared some graphic, if you will, that showed this on Twitter, which is obviously a platform he’s very active on right now as he’s soon to be new owner of it. It showed that the left has basically gone insane, that the left is now taking policy positions and pushing for things that they would have said, “Never would we want that,” even maybe 10 or five years ago.

The left has radicalized. It’s radical used, in large part, because it had acquired the institutional power in polices like Twitter and Facebook, Silicon Valley, corporate America, Disney, Netflix — as well as the usual strongholds of the campuses and the journos in the news media — it had felt as though it had the power to finally push for things that would be unrecognizable to a Democrat Party of even 10 years ago.

And they’re starting to figure this out among Democrats. Some of them are just delusional and they’ll say, “That’s not true!” The right has moved further right.” You’ll see some people say this. “Look at this data that I pulled a bunch of data! Look I’ve got a magic algorithm that shows you that it’s the right wring that’s got…” Really? The right wing in an era of conservatives who are increasingly, I think, frustrated with just abandoning ground to the other side.

“Losing but losing slowly and gracefully.” That had been the GOP mantra for, well, much of the last 20 years until punch came along and said, “No, I think you push bullies back in the nose when they punch you first.” That was a big change. The left is now pushing for ideas that they would have agreed were extreme just a few years ago, even perhaps back in the Obama administration.

Although I would argue that this is just the next logical phase of Obamaism, if you will, that we’ve seen. They were establishing a beachhead for more of this, that slopes are in fact slippery. Don’t ever listen to somebody who says, “That’s a slippery slope argument!” Yes, and it’s probably true, as we have seen. There’s a… Gravity still works on a slope. That’s why it is slippery.

“Liberals Can’t Win a Culture War Without a Good Defense.” This is a piece by Jonathan Chait, which I thought was interesting. This caught my attention because here’s what the left has been saying about the formidable work of Chris Rufo, who just exposes what is really going on, he just shows what is really being taught to your kids.

He explains what diversity and inclusion and wokeness means in a corporate context, with proof, with video, with the teaching materials. And you know what the left keeps saying. “That’s not true. That’s not real.” They’re just in denialism about it. And that’s not gonna work. It’s not that they are upset with the dishonesty inherent in the denialism ’cause honestly the left has no principles to protect.

So it gives them a lot of leeway except they realize it’s politically disadvantageous now. There is a problem. There is a problem the Democrats are facing in this midterm, and that is people have seen how crazy the Democrat Party is. And the Democrats in places like Arizona and Nevada and Pennsylvania who want to tell you, “Oh, I’m just…

“I’m a gun-toting Democrat who’s moderate and all this sort of stuff.” Hmm, no. No, not gonna buy it. Not when your party is pushing for this stuff. So this has become a political threat to Democrats. Jonathan Chait in this piece says… Remember, he’s a leftist. This is a man of the left. But he’s writing about this because he recognizes that pretending it’s not there isn’t gonna make the problem go away.

“’Don’t dodge culture wars, win them,’ is a slogan that has begun circulating on the left,” he writes. “Jamelle Bouie makes a more considered version of the case in a recent column. Here’s how he begins: ‘Almost 60 years ago, the historian Richard Hofstadter described what he saw as the true goal of McCarthyism. “The real function of the Great Inquisition of the 1950s was not anything so simply rational as to turn up spies or prevent espionage,” he wrote, “or even to expose actual communists, but to discharge resentments and frustrations, to punish, to satisfy enmities whose roots lay elsewhere than in the communist issue itself.’

“I also find this precedent to be instructive, though I think the implications might lead in a somewhat different direction than many other culture-war enlisters would like to take it,” and he goes on to explain correctly that the left is in still, decades later, denial about the reality of communist penetration of the United States government, of the Democrat Party and the labor movement working closely with communists.

And I mean getting checks and orders from the Kremlin in the Soviet Union communists. The Democrats pretend this did not happen. It did happen. McCarthyism is not based on a fantasy. McCarthy was right about a lot, actually, and Democrats now think that they’re gonna be able to run the same playbook that they did on the so-called Red Scare. They just act like it wasn’t even there.

People will say, “Oh, it’s McCarthyism,” and you say, “Well, hold on a second. What do you mean by that? Because Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy and a senior adviser and member of the United States government, because there were communist penetrations.” If you want to read… Now, only one of them, Richard Wright — only one of them – was, I think, an American communist.

The God that Failed is a great compendium of essays written by former communists in the west in Europe and America saying that they realized that they were essentially part of a godless death cult of totalitarianism that was trying to destroy the whole planet. (laughs) They didn’t put it in those terms, but that’s basically what they were saying. The communist penetration was real. Why does this matter today?

Because what the left is trying to tell you is that they’re not pushing gender identity on children anywhere, they’re not teaching that white people need to apologize — even in a corporate context — for all the racism of the past and they should be ashamed and they should be… You know, being an ally means bending the knee and saying, “Yes, I’m ashamed my past and my history and who I am.”

They pretend that that’s not happening. That’s a lie, and people see it now, and that’s the problem. So it’s not that they weren’t comfortable telling the lies before. It’s that the lying no longer works for the Democrats. The left can’t get away with it anymore. And that’s why Ron DeSantis and others leaning into this, Chris Rufo doing fantastic work, exposing what is being taught to your kids.

Glenn Youngkin up in Virginia is great on the school issue and parental involvement. People realize. Show the American people what is actually happening right now, and they will see that the left is insane. And now I bring up this Chait piece, Jonathan Chait piece because he’s a leftist who is saying (summarized), “Hey, guys, we gotta fight on this issue because the ‘I don’t see this, it’s not real, they’re just lying about teaching 4-year-olds gender identity’ ain’t gonna fly.

“The cat’s out of the bag. People know. It’s there. The evidence is out there. Chris Rufo has a whole website with this stuff.” You just see it the diversity and inclusion training. Everybody that I know in corporate America has some story right now, all of my… When I say that “I know,” close friends of mine will tell me. “What were you allowed to say during the BLM riots when they would have these town hall meetings in different companies?

“Were you allowed to say, ‘This is reckless, it’s destructive, it’s stupid, it’s actually not about saving lives, it’s going to ruin lives’?” We’ve seen that is what actually happened. Were you allowed to say that in corporate meetings? Nno, of course you weren’t. Everyone knows that. You’d lose your job. Lose your job, a lot of places.

So they have to at least the address the reality of where the American people are on this, and that’s why where Ron DeSantis had the whole issue with Disney that came up, he knew. “Oh, yeah, Disney? You to go along with this lie that it’s the ‘don’t say gay’ bill? You want to go along with this pretense that no one wants to teach kids weird stuff when they’re 4 or 5-year-olds in school, no one wants to indoctrinate them?”

That’s what the left was trying, and DeSantis said, “No, let’s fight back. Let’s tell people the truth,” and so the left is on their heels. They’re playing defense on issues they thought they could get away with continuing to be on offense on. They’re not able to really make that psychological transition. What are they going to do? ‘Cause, as I said, there’s power at stake now.

The mission that they have to indoctrinate and to crush and silence the opposition, that is in jeopardy. So they have take into account what the real explanation is, what is the argument they’re going to make. They can’t just say, “We’re not teaching 4-year-olds that there are lots of different genders, and we’re not pushing kids who are 5 or 6 years old…”

And this is just one issue, right? But this is an important one. You’ve noticed the silence about the athletes, males competing against females in the NCAA from 90% of the left. They won’t criticize it. They’ll go along with it. They won’t criticize people who say, “Men can get pregnant.” They go along with it. Everyone sees this now.

So while it used to be feasible for them to just ignore, to downplay… Look at the game they play with CRT specifically. “There is no CRT in schools. There is no CRT!” That’s what they kept saying, and the only reason we knew about the CRT in the first place, the critical race theory, was because of parents who were at home who saw what was being taught to their kids because of Zoom instruction.

The teachers unions shut down the schools far longer than need to be ’cause Democrats take orders from the teachers unions, but that’s a whole other component of this. So parents were seeing what was being taught to their kids and then what did the national media tries to say? “That’s not being taught to your kids! Don’t believe your lying eyes.

“Don’t believe your lying ears.” This is what the Democrat Party line was. And then more information came out, more data came out, and that became untenable. So they said, “Well, you can’t understand what CRT is. You have to have a PhD to know.” Really? I don’t think so. I think we all understand that when you have kids line up and you have kids say:

“You are the oppressed and you are the oppressor.” Small children. No ability to reason through this. They’re just listening to the adults as we teach them to, we tell them to, parents say, listen to Mr. or Mrs. You know, so-and-so as your teacher and then the teachers are filling their minds with this nonsense. And then the left was trying to apprehend it wasn’t going on and now we see it obviously was.

And some Democrats are trying to — not out of principle but out of a desire for power, trying to — signal that there’s a problem here, trying to ring the alarm bell, hey, guys we gotta defends this stuff, we gotta say, “Okay. Maybe there are some people on the left who have taken it to this crazy extreme, but it’s not representative of the Democrat Party.”

Because the game they’re still trying to play right now is, “We don’t do that. No one says that! That’s not happening.” That’s not gonna work. We’ve exposed too much. We’ve seen too much. The truth is out there now. So we just have to stay on it. It’s one of the things we do here, I think, day in and day out.

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DeSantis: Covid Liars Seek Ministry of Truth

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: They want to lie in name of eliminating lies, friends. Welcome back to Clay and Buck. That’s what’s really going on here. That is the reality as it is unfolding before all of us. And that’s something that we will not allow to go without response from our side, that’s for sure.

BUCK: Want to talk to you about Elon, the purchase of Twitter and the woke war coming up in the next hour. Also got Alex Berenson will be joining us, talk to him about the latest with covid. Moderna wanting emergency authorization for under 5. I’m seeing some stuff on social media of parents who are claiming that their kids have basically never been outside in the real world among other kids now.

They’re 18 months, two years, perhaps, into this, doing this. And it’s child abuse. And I can’t verify if this is what’s actually happening in some places. But given that I still see people walking around – adults — without masks on with children with masks on, this is a mental illness for the adults. This is a mental illness. It’s either people who have some kind of emotional disorder, or they are unable to read and understand data. That’s where we are, friends, with all this.

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Mayorkas Has No Idea Who’s Crossing the Border

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: “The Biden Administration Struggles to Calm the Democratic Storm over Immigration.” That is a very favorable (chuckles) headline from Politico about what a total mess things are. Welcome back to Clay and Buck here. Let’s just be very clear about what’s going on. “Struggles to calm the Democrat storm”?

Yeah, that’s ’cause Democrats who are in tight races know that they’re going to be trying to honestly lie to the American people about what their party really believes when it comes to immigration at a time when you live the southern border just overrun, blown open. I mean, fentanyl flown across in numbers we’ve probably never seen before. Illegal aliens pouring across in numbers we’ve never seen before.

And it’s also happening under Biden. Notice that they’re running out of the “it’s a coincidence” room here. Inflation starts when Biden takes control, when Biden’s regime comes in. Lots of coincidences just happens to start when Joe Biden is going. You say, “All right, there was a lot of spending in 2020 under the Trump administration too because of covid.

“So maybe there’s a little bit but, I mean, that’s…” Oh, wait. But crime starts rising with BLM, the Democrat movement that the corporations were all supporting and sponsoring, and it led to riots — and you look at when homicides were going up, you look at when crime was going up — and it’s the beginning of the BLM movement in 2020. Is that a coincidence for the Democrats too?

Oh. The withdrawal from Afghanistan is it a total disaster happens on Joe Biden’s watch. Coincidence or maybe they’re just not good at this? And now illegal immigration, you look at year over year, you look at what’s going on. I mean, you don’t even have to take my word for it. You just look at the some of the illegals who are showing up at the border with Biden T-shirts on, which they have.

They have literally — and I mean that in the actual sense of the word — shown up in Biden T-shirts. They have told journalists down there, they say, “Excuse me, sir. Excuse me, madam. Why are you coming across the border at this time?” They say, “Well, because Joe Biden is president.” The Democrat establishment realizes this is a problem because the game that they play is as an election gets closer, they talk tough on how they want border security.

“Oh, we want border security too!” I read the whole Mayorkas DHS memo, and it goes into detail about strict immigration enforcement. And it’s laughable. Ask anybody involved in the immigration-enforcement process, talk to someone at Border Patrol. I’m sure a lot of you… First of all, I know Border Patrol members listen to this show.

And thank you for what you do because a lot of them are really underappreciated in the national discourse ’cause the Democrats don’t want to speak the truth, which is that Border Patrol are defending our borders and enforcing U.S. law and sovereignty. But ask any of them, ask anyone who’s down there at the border and you’ll be told, “No, it’s ridiculous.”

We’re already… They’re talking about being unable to handle the surge. We can’t with rule of law in place handle what’s already going on. We don’t know where, say, dozens of people — and I hate when people go — when people go too far or they say something that’s an exaggeration about the border because then it’s, “Oh, gosh!”

Now they’re just gonna point to that, say, “See, the right is stirring things up again.” It’s not true. I had to look this one up. I had to make sure this one was true. I had to asked numerous people who were students of and data nerds of the border. Turns out there are people on the terror watch list who are verified by fingerprint scan who have gotten into the country. Where are they? Well, here is DHS secretary Mayorkas just yesterday being asked by our buddy Congressman Jim Jordan about this. Here’s how that went.

BUCK: Doesn’t seem to know. I kind of would like to know. I’d like us to know that. I think that’s important. I think when you have people who are on the terror watch list — and remember, ’cause I asked the question. I said, “Hold on a second.” I spoke to some of my contacts; I said, “Could this be a name mismatch issue — you know, someone whose name is spelled similar to somebody on the list?”

No, no, fingerprint verified, apparently. I have to say: That, to me, seems like it’s something we should be getting a very clear answer to. Who’s coming into the country, and what are they doing when they’re here? The answer, my friends, is they don’t really know. And this is just who’s being processed. This is who we actually are actually apprehending.

This is who we’re taking into custody. Got-aways, these are the people who — and just to explain how it works, think about it this way. I’ve seen this happen. I was down — what was it now, about 18 months ago — in the Rio Grande sector of the border, and you would have a family. This was the same thing I saw in El Paso at the border and the same thing I saw at the San Diego-Tijuana border.

You had families come and wave down Border Patrol. Now, Border Patrol goes over there, and they’re apprehending people, but they’re not an imminent security threat, obviously. There’s women and children. They want to make sure they’re safe. They bring them food. They take them to the hospital.

And because we are the American people and we are a good and moral people, of course, we see women and children in jeopardy, we’re gonna do that, right? But what happens then a mile down, when they’ve got Border Patrol members who are making hospital runs, sometimes using their own funds to go buy diapers. This is real. This is what’s happening at your southern border right now.

What happens is then a mile down the road, they run a pickup truck with enough fentanyl to kill 50,000 people. They run that right across, right across the border, or they run 50 adult male migrants, probably with criminal records, ’cause otherwise if they didn’t have a criminal record they’d join a family unit. See, there are reasons why they do it this way.

All of this is a huge cash cow. All of this is a huge source of funds for the Mexican transnational drug cartels, right? They’re making some estimates — I’ve seen it said — in a given week they could make more money even off the human smuggling than the drug smuggling. Think about that, because that’s how much control they’re exerting at the border.

When they talk about got-aways people that made it free and clear into the country. I brought this up and said, “What do you think the number is.” For fiscal year 2021 DHS Mayorkas, secretary Mayorkas testified there were 389,000 plus known got-aways. So coming up on 400,000 people. For fiscal year ’22, which began on October 1st — and hat tip, by the way, to Fox News reporting down at the border for getting these.

Bill Melugin, doing great work down at the border, getting these numbers out there — 300,000 got-aways so far fiscal year ’22. What are we, halfway into fiscal year ’22? It’s 300,000. So we’ll easily be at… Keep in mind post-Title 42 you’re looking at half a million to a million got-aways. Those are people who never even check in.

We have no idea who they are. We have no idea what they’re bringing into the country. They know full well that they could join a family unit and claim asylum and try to game the system that way. But, no, no, no! They want to just make a run for it, literally make a run for the across the border. That’s what they’re doing.

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