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America’s Parents Agree with Ron DeSantis on Education

29 Mar 2022

CLAY: We’re going to be joined by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis at the top of the third hour, and I wanted to play this because he signed the Parental Rights in Education bill yesterday, refused to back down despite the pressure from Disney and the regular Blue Check Brigade members who tried to brand this bill as the “don’t say gay” bill.

Here is Ron DeSantis signing and announcing what exactly his goal in signing it is.

CLAY: This is why, Buck, yesterday we talked a little bit about the fact that DeSantis is being attacked by the New York Times now as “Trump 2.0,” and I believe you will see more and more of these attacks going forward because regardless… Let’s say Trump wins in ’24. He’s just got four years, and so at some point the Trump bogeyman disappears. But the calumnies, the attacks, the insults that have been leveled against Donald Trump have to be transferred to other Republican politicians, and you can see who they fear by who they brand as Trump 2.0.

BUCK: Hold on, hold on.

CLAY: That’s the people that they are afraid of.

BUCK: “Worse than Trump,” Clay. It’s gotta be “worse than Trump.” People have to have — the sequel has to have — bigger special effects than the original, so somehow they’re gonna have to convince you that it’s even worse than Donald Trump was before him, which will be a remarkable thing. Look, there are a lot of people… I understand the business model for the average Washington Post subscriber and New York Times subscriber is just to be fed a steady diet.

There’s no such thing as too many “Trump is the worst thing to ever happen to the country” editorials as far as they’re concerned. That is the business model because there are people that just need that every day. They think that that’s… It’s reaffirming their very stubborn and hysterical belief, which, when you look at what actually happened over the Trump years, none of the stuff they said was going to happen happened.

CLAY: Of course not.

BUCK: Everything was actually pretty great. It was like people are saying, “You sound too happy!” In 2018, 2019, I was telling everybody, “Guys, it doesn’t get much better than this!” I would tell the radio audience this, Clay. The economy’s great, we’re at peace, Trump’s hilarious, good things are happening. You’ve got somebody who seems like a normal person who makes…”

“Normal” is not really the right description. But takes a gut instinct approach to things that is shared by other people who are not brainwashed with wokeness — and, yeah, of course that’s all gone now. But Governor DeSantis in his, “I’m gonna stand on this issue and double down,” I really mean this, we have to… The more agitated the left gets about things that involve parental involvement in schools…

Remember there’s so much at stake here, Clay. It’s not just the indoctrination of the kids and really the validation of some of the most far-left wing beliefs when it comes to gender identity. They want to teach 5-year-olds about multiple-pronoun individuals and all this stuff, multi-pronoun theory, all of this stuff that’s out there. They clearly want to do that.

But also, they’re very touchy just in general about anything where it’s greater parental involvement in education because really — unfortunately — the right had ceded public education largely to the Democrat Party and the left for decades now. And people are waking up to this and realizing this is a problem. Even if your kids aren’t in public school, it’s a problem, and the teachers unions are the heart of the Democrat Party’s political muscle and donations.

CLAY: What happened, Buck, is — I really do believe this — so much of the learning moved remote, and it woke up parents. I get it ’cause I’m a parent with kids in public school. Buck, you can well imagine. You’re busy. On a day-to-day basis, man, I spent my whole weekend at two Little League baseball games and then yesterday kids got a home game, and I went and coached —

BUCK: How’d the Travis boys hit, by the way?

CLAY: They’re hitting pretty well. Now, defense, we had an egregious error in the field that may have cost us the Sunday game by one of my boys. So there’s always a balancing act between, you know —

BUCK: Learning experience. A learn experience.

CLAY: Learning experience, yeah. And the older I get, the less maybe fired up I get about mistakes or whatever. But the point is, like, parents are just busy, and there’s so… Every day of a parent, especially when you have young kids — and I know a ton of our listeners know this feeling — it is such a wild moment-to-moment, hour-to-hour, day-to-day, that when you get through the day and everybody’s in bed, you’re just like, “Ahhh, you know, finally everybody’s in bed.”

I think what happened was, there were so many parents at home and you couldn’t help but look over your kid’s shoulder when you’re walking through the house and you started to pay attention in a way that maybe you hadn’t — when everybody’s at home — to what’s going on inside the schools. And I think masks also factored in in a big way because people got more engaged. Remember, Buck, when I spoke back in August, I called you afterwards and I said, “Man, this is gonna be a tidal wave,” and it already has led to Glenn Youngkin’s election.

BUCK: You were fired up because the parents were so fired up.

CLAY: It’s the best I had felt since covid happened, seeing how engaged all these parents were and how they weren’t gonna stand for it anymore. It felt like America was waking up, and I feel like that’s what’s going on. More steam! Do not let up. The more you get attacked on this, the more right you are. Don’t back down. I think that’s what Ron DeSantis has essentially decided, and the polling’s on his side. Parents don’t want their kindergarten, their first grader, their second grader, their third grader being taught about transgender issues or sexual orientation.

BUCK: By the way, why isn’t every state legislature with Republican majorities and a Republican governor…? Where are the companion bills?

CLAY: It’s a good question.

BUCK: Let’s drill down on this. Let’s force the Democrat Party to say, “No, we insist on the teaching of gender identity to 5-year-olds.”

CLAY: It’s madness, absolute madness.

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C&B Break Down the Biden Budget and Tax Hikes

29 Mar 2022

BUCK: We wanted to talk to you about the $5.8 trillion Biden budget preparation. Let’s just all put that in quick context because the part of this I find so interesting… Well, there’s the wealth tax which, Clay, had mentioned we want to get into that, “the billionaires tax” as they called it sounds good, hugely problematic — and I’m not shilling for billionaires here, although I would like to be one, although I’m gonna have to win several lotteries to get there.

CLAY: (laughing) You and the listeners, I would imagine, yes.

BUCK: Yeah, exactly. Someone hand me a billion, I’m not gonna say no. But we’ll also discuss the funding for law enforcement in this which is essentially a policy repudiation of where the Democrat Party was in 2020, which was the whole defund the police madness, which as we have agreed here — I’ve been saying for years ’cause, remember, this was defund 2.0 with BLM 2.0 — defund the police is the dumbest political slogan in the history of modern American politics, certainly in my lifetime.

But in terms of context first we’ve got a $5.8 trillion budget request, Clay, when Ronald Reagan proposed a budget — this is from the New York Times — back in 1982, you want to take a guess or you want me just to read it?

CLAY: Of what the total federal budget was in ’82?

BUCK: What was the total federal budget in 1982.

CLAY: Oh, that’s such a good question. So 40 years ago, two generations ago. If I remember correctly, we had this conversation. I feel like the national debt was around $1 trillion at the time. Now we’re at a national debt of $30 trillion.

BUCK: Mmm-hmm.

CLAY” I’m gonna guess in 1982, if we’re at $5.8 trillion federal, about that now, I’m going to guessthat it was $800 billion.

BUCK: That is an excellent guess. 695 billion. So well done, Mr. Travis.

CLAY: Not too bad. Not too far off.

BUCK: Yes, you get an A+ on that one. We did not coordinate this beforehand, like the Chris and Will slap, this was not coordinated beforehand. So, excellent. Yeah. $695 billion. I just think everyone needs to know this because neither party really wants to talk to you about this. They don’t want to talk about the — and the Republicans pretend, but there are very few that are serious about the structural issues for the economy of $30 trillion in debt.

Look at where we were when the Tea Party was worried the debt in 2010 versus where we are now. So we have a basically $6 trillion of federal spending that Biden is putting forward. Now, we know that the spending from the president is a wish list and it’s Congress that has to actually deal with all this, and he’s not gonna get this through. But it’s essentially telling the American people, “Hey, here are my priorities.” But just the fact that it’s gone from $695 billion in 1982 —

CLAY: That’s wild.

BUCK: — to $6 trillion today? So basically over the course of my and your lifetime, Clay, it has gone up so much, this gives you a sense of how we’re just in a whole other universe of spending. And now we get into what exactly Biden’s looking at. Do you want to do cops first or do you want to do wealth tax first?

CLAY: The cops we actually agree on. Do we want to have a positive? I mean, the one thing in Joe Biden’s career, Buck, that he may have gotten right was the 1994 crime bill that he then tried to run against in the 2020 election, but I don’t think there’s any doubt —

BUCK: There are some Republicans taht were trying to criticize him for that bill. Like, no, no, no, guys, no, no, no. Just ’cause he did it doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

CLAY: The ’94 crime bill definitely decreased the amount of crime that’s going on in the United States because — and there were some parts of it, obviously, that were Draconian. But three strikes and you’re out was a big part of that, and it put violent criminals behind bars, and as a result… This shouldn’t be considered, you know, rocket science; but unfortunately it is ’cause people have the memories of goldfish now.

When you put violent criminals behind bars and when you let them know that if they commit crimes there are gonna be significant consequences for those crimes, crime goes down and so the ’94 crime bill, that was kind of the peaks, right, Buck, of there’s a couple of more years after that. The idea was that the crime rate was gonna continue to skyrocket. I remember being a kid in those days and reading about all the crime wave and everything else, and then, boom! Suddenly crime collapsed, up until the last three or four years when suddenly it’s come surging back.

BUCK: Here is Ted Cruz on the budget before we dive into the police aspect of it. Again, just putting this all in context. Senator Cruz from Texas on how this would, over the course of the spending that this would initiate — and we know this is, again, the wish list, but this is showing you the vision for the country. Ted Cruz says $45 trillion national debt’s what we’d be looking at. Play clip 20.

BUCK: So you’re gonna have raising interest rates here, they’re going to raise them, coming up. That’s already underway, which is going to mean that also payment on the debt, that service payments on the $30 trillion of national debt is going to start to crowd out other spending within the government  budget, and the purse strings are gonna have to get even looser as a result of this.

The grip of the IRS… A big increase in IRS agent funding in the Biden budget, and they’ve already been pushing for this. I think they wanted, what, $70 billion of new funding for the IRS over a period of time. They want a lot of IRS agents to be able to come after you. And then, Clay, we get to part of this was where they’re going to — kind of like the way they’ve created the “don’t say gay” bill that doesn’t actually have anything to do with being able to say gay — the “billionaires tax.”

Now, they’re talking … This will affect, I would assume some billionaires. I will tell everybody listening that the wealth tax that they have tried in places like France ends up essentially not getting paid by anybody. They all either repatriate their tackle, they leave, they find ways around it, they’re very rich, they have a lot of ways to game the system; so the wealth tax ended up being a very small driver of revenue in France where they tried it I think about 10 years ago. Gerard Depardieu. (impression) “Do you celebrate all of his movies, Mr. Travis?”

CLAY: I did study French, and I’ve seen a lot of the Gerard Depardieu canon of films. I believe he is now #MeToo’d. I think he’s out of the commission.

BUCK: Did he really get #MeTooed? I didn’t know.

CLAY: #MeTooed.

BUCK: Big deal in France. I think. If I’m wrong, I don’t want Gerard Depardieu… Somebody look it up on the staff. I’ll correct if I’m wrong. But I believe that Gerard Depardieu has been #MeTooed in France, one of the casualties of the #MeToo movement, and France didn’t have the same level of #MeToo. They actually had a debate in France about whether #MeToo made sense. But I think he got caught up in the crossfire there.

BUCK: A lot of French politicians worried about their mistresses coming out and saying things.

CLAY: Well, yeah. That was sort of a trend, everybody just had that. That was widely accepted that —

BUCK: Very different vibe in France for all that stuff.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Anyway; so we have the wealth tax doesn’t really get paid. And the talking point you’ll always hear from people who are allergic to actual history or actual knowledge, they’ll say, “Oh, in the Eisenhower administration the top tax rate of  95%.” Okay, well, ask how many people actually paid, how many people actually made and paid that top tax rate.

The answer is basically nobody. Nobody was paying 95% income tax, really. So now we get to what this would do. So, Clay, they’re talking about taxing unrealized gains in the stock market. It’s amazing they could even put this forward — and again it is annoying that the tax code is gamed in so many ways. I’m for a flat tax. I’m a flat tax advocate.

CLAY: Me too.

BUCK: I have been for a long time. So it’s not like I sit here and just whine about this. The tax code is a massive monument to influence peddling, grift, corruption. That’s why it’s tens of thousands of pages long —

CLAY: Nobody can apply it. We’re relatively smart guys. I was texting with my accountant earlier today. I have no idea how to do my taxes. None.

BUCK: You send ’em all your stuff, you’re like, “Please, you know, I don’t want to go to jail, tell me what I have to do, tell me what I have to pay.” That’s basically what I do too. And here we are looking at them, putting forward this billionaires tax, and, I mean, Clay, for them to go after unrealized gains in stock portfolios, how would that…?

Let’s just work this out for everybody. Let’s say you’re a early investor in Tesla. Now you’re a Tesla billionaire. You’re worth $10 billion on paper in Tesla stock. So you pay based on the value for tax year 2022 of whatever that is. What happens when the stock, you know… Let’s assume the stock gets cut in half the next year.

CLAY: Yeah. It’s a great question. Unrealized gains, for people out there — ’cause a lot of people don’t spend time thinking about this. Let’s say you bought a stock, right. You buy a stock for $10 and it goes to a hundred dollars. Until you sell that stock, that is a paper gain. That is an unrealized gain in income in your possession.

But if you never sell it, then you don’t pay taxes on that gain, right? So what the government is now saying they’re going to do — which is a pretty revolutionary idea — is they are going to tax the unrealized gain that you may have in your stocks. The challenge with this, Buck, is, stocks don’t just go up. So let’s say that stock went from 10 to a hundred and you’re forced to pay a tax on that unrealized gain.

Do you get a refund if the company goes bankrupt and you never sold it? Because until you sell that stock, you don’t have the physical possession of the money. So there hasn’t been a tangible realization of that gain. So you could ride a stock price, as I’m sure some of our listeners have — you could have a stock that goes on fire for years, goes from 10 to a hundred — and then that company could go bankrupt and you end up with zero.

So is the government gonna give you a refund for all of the money that you lost in that stock? As soon as you start taxing unrealized gains, the reality is there are stock price declines that occur as well where the government could be having to give refunds in theory, if they’re going to implement this, for billions of dollars, right? I mean this is crazy.

BUCK: And remember for them to get real revenue, folks — and this is what they always want to hide from you — they gotta tax a lot of people.

CLAY: Everybody.

BUCK: They could seize 50% of the assets of billionaires and it wouldn’t cover the costs over time of what Nancy Pelosi wants to spend on, you know, studying tree frogs in the Pacific Northwest and getting everybody ready with windmills for the Green New Deal. It’s just not enough. There’s always more spending that they’re gonna want to push.

On that, by the way, Clay, they have four times what Obama had in this Biden budget — four times what Obama wanted — for climate change specific causes I think is the number. That’s the number that I saw: $17 billion for climate research across federal agencies: $17 billion to research essentially the average temperature around the globe. Do we think they’re gonna come up with this and say, you know what? It’s actually not that big a deal, guys. It goes up, it goes down, we’ll all be fine. I have a feeling they’re not gonna say that.

CLAY: When we come back I want to hit you ’cause some people are saying, oh, it’s a billionaires tax. “I don’t care about billionaires,” because to your point, Buck, you and I and probably almost everyone, do you think we have a billionaire listening to us right now, Buck?

BUCK: Oh, yeah, we got a few.

CLAY: You think?

BUCK: Oh, yeah.

CLAY: Listening right now? Okay. But for the one or two or three of you out there that are actual billionaires —

BUCK: Can I have some coffee please and some slippers, please, billionaires?

CLAY: Yeah, why don’t you go buy a bunch of coffee and cover all our ad nut here for the entire year?

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: So I wanted to hit you with this. The billionaire tax — ’cause it’s gonna be labeled as if, “Oh, it only impacts the billionaires.” And we talked about in the last segment why taxing unrealized capital gains is a radical idea even if… It may not even be constitutional, by the way. That would remain to be seen because it’s not a tangible property in your possession and the value…

As anybody who checks stock prices knows, the value of a stock every single day, it changes. Sometimes it can go up, sometimes it can go down. But I just want to hit you guys with this fact which I saw. This from the Wall Street Journal this morning, Buck. The income tax. In 1913, a little bit over a hundred years ago, the income tax was 7%.

You heard Buck talking about the size of the federal budget in 1982 with Ronald Reagan. What was it, $695 billion? It’s now up to 5.8 trillion. Seven percent top rate on taxpayers, and only taxpayers who made more than $500,000 a year had to pay that tax rate. That, by the way, $500,000 in 1913 would be the equivalent of $14.5 million today.

The Alternative Minimum Tax was created in 1969 as a flat 10% tax, but now many people in the middle class are hit by it. What am I using those examples for? They always start taxes by telling you, “This is only for the rich.” But to Buck’s point, in order to have the money that they want to have to spend, it ain’t enough just to tax the rich.

They are the toe in the water to test whether or not they can get it passed. Once it’s passed, you’re not a billionaire, but they are coming for you. Maybe they start to say, Buck, “Hey, we’re gonna tax the unrealized gains on your homes,” right? You may never sell your home, but if you own it for a long time, hopefully the price is going to increase; you don’t ever have to pass taxes until you sell it.

BUCK: Ask farmers about what it means when their lands are assessed at some multimillionaire value, and they have to pay tax on land. That means their farm is gonna.

CLAY: That’s a hundred percent right.

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Howard Stern Blames Trump for Will Smith Slap

29 Mar 2022

BUCK: Howard Stern, who Clay used to listen to. I was never a listener. But Clay used to listener to, and obviously one of the biggest names in radio, no question about it, and built an empire for himself, on being certainly a free speech guy and a free thinker at some level. And now he’s an ultramask and vaccine forever kind of advocate guy, terrified of people who don’t wear masks, and also made a comparison between Will Smith and Trump that was… Here you go. Listen to this.

BUCK: I just… You know, he clearly agrees with us that the slap was wrong. How is Will Smith like Trump?

CLAY: The only argument you can make is celebrities definitely get held to a different standard than anyone else. So just think about, like, first of all, Trump has never, to my knowledge, done anything physically violent. So it’s a ridiculous argument. But think about what Will Smith did, Buck. He walked up on stage, attacked one of the performers in front of, whatever it is, 25-30 million people, probably, who were watching at that time, okay.

Turns around, goes back, sits down, nobody even says anything to him. He then wins an award, goes back up on stage and gets a standing ovation. Tell me somebody else anywhere who could walk up from the crowd onto the stage, attack someone who is performing, return to their chair, and nobody says anything to them, ever. Like a comedy show, a Broadway show, a musical performance of some sort. I’m not sure that’s ever occurred.

BUCK: What do you think would have happened if somebody — when, you know, I don’t know, the academies, did they even happen last year? I don’t even remember. But we’ve gone through a year now, Clay, where the everyday folks will be escorted off of a plane or out of a theater and humiliated for a mask refusal because that is dangerous and beyond the pale.

But to your point with millions and millions of people watching, Will Smith gets up and commits a violent assault upon another person, and it’s not even just like it’s allowed to happen. Then they’re celebrating the guy later on. There was no nothing. Did anyone even…? I didn’t watch all of it afterwards. I watched that and then I was just looking around on the internet to try to see, you know, looking at all the different angles to see whether or not it was a real slap. But did anyone come out and say, “Hey, man, that was really grotesque and you shouldn’t have done that”? Think about that.

CLAY: Like celebrity?

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: Not that I saw.

BUCK: Not that I saw.

CLAY: I think they’re afraid. I think near afraid. I think, one, it’s a black guy, and so celebrities are all like, “Oh, my God. I’ll get called racist.” I mean, honestly, I think they probably thought that. But just think about what happens at a sporting event. If somebody runs on the field during a sporting event, the guy gets tackled, he gets immediately charged with trespassing.

He’s not hitting anyone, by and large. He’s not assaulting anyone. But he gets charged with a crime of a significant nature, and they pull the cameras away to not show whoever that nincompoop is that’s out there running around on the field. Will Smith went right back to his seat. That is a different caliber of privilege than exists anywhere else. We talk a lot about privilege, white male privilege. I’ll tell you what: Celebrity Will Smith privilege. They let him get away with a crime, and then he got an award.

BUCK: I mean, Alec Baldwin killed somebody and still hasn’t faced any legal jeopardy that we know of any kind quite yet.

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C&B 24/7: Clay & Buck’s Show Prep

29 Mar 2022

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    Disney Steps Up Attack on Ron DeSantis

    28 Mar 2022

    BUCK: There was a controversy of sorts swirling around media and entertainment before even we got the Oscars. It’s one that actually has to do with the law and is, I think, very much heightened by the desire of the left to find whatever method of attack possible for the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis. I’m currently in North Florida, and I could tell you a lot of people here are very proud of their governor and what he has done over the course of the pandemic in particular.

    But also scoreboards don’t lie, as they say, and the hundreds of thousands of people who have moved to Florida from Democrat enclaves, like my own home state and city of New York. There’s a reason for that. We’re all aware of this. And it has to do with quality of life, taxation, regulation, covid policies, just general governance. Not being ruled by lunatics. That’s a good start. Not being ruled by people who live in an alternative universe. We will talk about Biden’s request in his budget for, one, a billionaires tax. We’ll probably get into that tomorrow.

    But also a lot of funding for police. Oh. Oh, wait a second. You mean the people that were telling you that undermining the cops and cutting the police budgets on the right were right the whole time and these psycho-libs run around acting like cops are all racist and bad and killing unarmed black men and there’s no consequence and it’s awful and they do it all the time? The people that were running around in hysterics and then justifying not only, of course, a lot of large gatherings during the covid, early days of the covid pandemic.

    But also the riots that came along with it, the destruction of property and the general lawlessness, they were all wrong. We’ll get into more of that tomorrow. But right now, there’s still the ongoing fight that the left is — they’re doubling down on this one — Clay, over the parent… We have to use the proper name of the bill, please. The left… One thing, Clay. One thing — and this is a little bit of a digression.

    You and I both know this. They are better at control of language. They force us to use the terms they like. Perfect example of this is “undocumented” now, which I even hear conservatives use. I hear people who are pretty pro-border security and rule of law say, “Yeah, we’ve gotta say that. There’s too many undocumenteds coming in.” I’m like, “Wait a second. The federal criminal term is ‘illegal alien,’ right?”

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: This is… Even with the pronoun battle we see this. Once you’ve said someone’s a “he” when they’re a “she” or a “she” when they’re a “he” everything else is kind of just details.

    CLAY: It gets complicated on the he-she thing, because we get that all the time. I try to say, “The Penn transgender swimmer,” just the transgender swimmer, somebody who’s not the biology that they are reflecting. But it is complicated, right? And they do a great job of continuing to hammer home until you start to accept whatever language that they want to use.

    BUCK: I would say this — and this is fair and we’ll tell you the truth here — I know a couple of trans people in real life. Would I refuse to their face to use their…? This is where it gets difficult. Would I want to give them offense by using a pronoun in front of them that I…? Now we get to the everyone deserves courtesy and decency comment, right? But in news commentary when it’s about the facts and it’s about what is true?

    Should you use the preferred pronoun of somebody who claims they’re a different pronoun from their actual biology? So I will say there are some layers of complexity there, and the same thing also with, to say someone’s an illegal alien is not supposed to be, it should not be thought of as a pejorative on that person as a person. It’s just their legal status in the country reminded, right? It doesn’t mean… So there’s a lot of ways we could have discussions about use of language.

    But the left controls language, and in the case of the “don’t say gay” bill, that is just a fabrication, essentially, of the left to attack what a parental rights and education bill in Florida. So every time we say “don’t say gay” we are playing into the political narrative here which is that’s what the bill does when it clearly does not. Disney — and this is what we wanted to get to. Disney is even more strongly taking a stand on this than they had before.

    Going into the Oscars there were stories about how there was, quote, “chaos” here, according — and there were some discussion, and we talked about it with some of the emcees of the event bringing it up. And so this was on the minds of a lot of people in the media. “Florida’s HB 1557, according to Disney’s official Twitter account, also known as the ‘don’t say gay’ bill…” Why not say the Parental Rights in Education bill? That’s the name of the bill. They give the HB 1575 and then don’t actually give the name of the bill.

    Isn’t that so interesting? But say “the ‘Don’t Say Gay'” bill, which is what the activists say, “should never have been passed and should never have been signed into law. “Our goal as a company is for this law to be repealed by the legislature or struck down in the courts, and we remain committed to supporting the national and state organizations working to achieve that.

    “We are dedicated to standing up for the rights and safety of LGBTQ+ members of the Disney family, as well as the LGBTQ+ community in Florida and across the country.” I have friends in “the community” who think that this is appalling that they’re making this claim, the pretend notion that adults from the LGBTQ community are outraged at the notion of not teaching gender identity to kindergarteners?

    CLAY: This is a win. And I think what it reflects is the desperation in the wake of Glenn Youngkin’s victory in Virginia and in the wake of parents, to their credit, all over the country getting involved in what their kids are being taught in public schools. And if you look at the actual polling data, Buck, the overwhelming majority of people out there, parents, support kids not being taught about sexuality in kindergarten, first grade, second grade, and third grade.

    And it’s totally a ridiculous, desperate attempt to try and come up with a reason that they can try and put on to Ron DeSantis to beat him this November. Because did you see there was a column in the New York Times over the weekend that DeSantis is a scarier version of Donald Trump, because… That’s the argument. Charles Blow, I believe, in the New York Times over the weekend said that — and, you know, I kind of have to laugh as I’m reading through it ’cause I know what the arguments are gonna be.

    But the argument was Trump was at times undisciplined in the way that he applied what he believes in, whereas DeSantis and other Southern governors — red state governors that they’re attacking — are more effective. That’s the argument of the New York Times, that they are more effective versions of Donald Trump in terms of implementing policy. Now, that is the attack that they’re going to try and tar and feather. Trump, I believe, is gonna run in 2024. But for years into the future, regardless of what happens with Trump, every Republican is going to get attacked as “the next version” of Donald Trump, a “scarier version” of Donald Trump.

    BUCK: It will always be worse than Trump, Clay, and whoever the candidate really may be — and I think this is because they also recognize they got the mainstream of the Democrat Party. I wouldn’t say the mainstream nationally, but sort of center of the Democrat Party was fed a steady media diet for four years of Donald Trump is a fascist, a Russian puppet, a rapist.

    They said he was a traitor, a white supremacist. There was almost nothing that they could say that’s truly defamatory that they didn’t say. There’s no lie that was too low, no lie that was too destructive for them. So they’re gonna have to find a way to make it seem like the next GOP standard-bearer — and again I agree, Trump is gonna run, but I mean even in the next, let’s say Trump wins.

    CLAY: DeSantis may run against him, right? I mean, we don’t know what the actual competition is going to look like on either the Democratic Party on the Republican side. But make no mistake, Buck. I believe this is part and parcel of an attempt to try to attack and tar and feather Ron DeSantis —

    BUCK: Of course!

    CLAY: — as he is rising up because he’s a young guy and will be in politics for years.

    BUCK: That’s why this bill has gotten so much attention and the reason why a state… I mean, think about this. All these people who live… I mean, the Hollywood folks, they live in California overwhelmingly. I know they have a lot of houses in a lot of places. But it’s a mostly L.A. and New York City audience out there at the Academy Awards.

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: And they’re concerned with a bill in the state of Florida, and so much so that they kind of take a swipe at all Floridians at the Oscars? There are Floridians who are I think wrongly goings is out and protesting the bill because they say it’s so awful. So the whole thing is really an absurdity, but it is getting after Ron DeSantis — and I think it is because, as I was saying, they made everyone so fearful and hateful toward Trump, that if they thought of they don’t say the next person’s worse than Trump, at some level, it may seem like the GOP is taking a more moderate and centrist path.

    And they can’t allow that because power is all that matters to these commies. So they’ll come up with, “Oh, this person is even worse than Trump,” because, God forbid, someone thinks that the GOP just wants to elect somebody — put Trump aside for a second — who is good at governance and not actually the worst person since Stalin or whatever they were saying about Trump.

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    Buck’s Midterm Goal: 50 Seats for the GOP

    28 Mar 2022

    CLAY: This trip over to Poland and to Europe for Joe Biden that ended disastrously when he seemed to suggest that America was demanding that Vladimir Putin be removed from office, it was all about trying to build him up. As you pointed out, Buck, he’s at 40% approval in the NBC News poll. And one of the things we’ve talked about a lot on this program is, “Well, things are so bad for Joe Biden right now, what is likely to happen by the time we get to the midterms, which obviously are in early November? So as we get to April we’re talking about six months away, effectively.

    I read this over the weekend. I thought it was fantastic. Democrats are, of course, hoping that Joe Biden can reverse his negative approval ratings, and we should mention that the polls tend to be widely biased in favor of Democratic politicians. So if Joe Biden is at 40% in an NBC News poll, if there is continuing to be bias there — as there has been in the ’16 election and in the ’20 election — in favor of Biden, how much lower might his approval ratings actually be? Just worth thinking about.

    So Nathan Gonzales, who is an elections analyst, looked into the last seven decades, Buck, of midterm election years to try to find out how much have president approval ratings gotten better during a midterm election year? And here what he found. “Looking back more than 70 years,” and I’m reading this from the Wall Street Journal, “there hasn’t been a single president who substantially improved his job approval rating from late January/early February of a midterm election year to late October/early November…

    “More specifically, in the last 18 midterm elections,” this is Gonzales’s work, “going back to Harry Truman in 1950, the average president’s job approval rating dropped 8 points between this time of year and Election Day.” That’s pretty wild to think about, Buck, because maybe there can be a changing of the historical trajectory over the last 70 years, but what it suggests, Buck, is when the American public makes a decision about you, they’ve got 17 or 18 months of data by the time get into the midterm election year to be able to analyze exactly what’s going on.

    It’s really hard to get them to change their mind. So if Biden’s gonna happen fall another eight points, we’re not just talking about a bad election season, Buck; we’re talking about a cataclysm, potentially, for the Democratic Party, worse than ’94, maybe worse than 2010 both.

    BUCK: And if we don’t achieve it, we have underperformed. That’s what we… We have to set the bar as high as is possible here because we could have been facing… Let’s be honest. We could have been facing… Now, when I say “could have,” people say, “No, Buck, their decisions are terrible.” I’m just saying maybe something had really gone their way; maybe there had been some economic cycle that Biden would benefit from like ending the pandemic and all of the economic prosperity that you would think would come along with that.

    We could have been in position where they were trying to say, “Biden has delivered and look at all the great stuff he’s done.” Instead, it’s just so many disasters that we have to make sure we ram home victory here or else it’ll be underperforming, underperforming. That’s the way we —

    CLAY: So what’s your number? What’s your over-under basically six months out for the House. The Senate’s tougher because they’re relatively few seats and it’s gonna swing —

    BUCK: I want 50 seats in the House.

    CLAY: Fifty seats.

    BUCK: I want 50. Yep. I want 50. I think that’s a pretty solid number. That would be a good day.

    CLAY: Yeah.

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    Jan. 6 Committee Subpoenas Ginni Thomas

    28 Mar 2022

    BUCK: They don’t care if you’re truly a public person. They don’t care if you are supposed to be able to operate with some degree of privacy. The left, the libs, the Democrat apparatus, they want to crush those who stand in their way. They want to settle scores, they want to humiliate people, and that brings me to this January 6th panel that will seek an “interview” with Ginni Thomas.

    Now, this is a gentle way of saying they’re gonna call her to testify before the January 6th House committee — and beyond that I’m sure if she decides not to show up, they will have a debate about subpoenaing Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. And there’s a lot to discuss here. But one of them is look at how the left, look at how the libs do this. They have a majority in Congress, and they are just dragging this thing as far as they can, weaponizing their subpoena power for just humiliation purposes.

    As if Ginni Thomas, what, she was now the leader of the insurrection or something? Give me a break. And the way that they have putting a private citizen’s text messages, I mean, they’re acting like they’re doing a criminal investigation, but they’re not. It’s a House investigation. But they have similar powers and they’re abusing it for political purposes. But one thing that I think is very noteworthy, Clay, in all of this is they keep talking about Ginni Thomas — and they do this with many people — “urging the overturning of the election,” which is in and of itself…

    The same way that using the term “insurrection” is an admission that one should not make because it was not an insurrection, was not a violent attempt to actually overthrow the United States government and sustain something in its place, even if there were some very sad, foolish people who were saying stupid things, as there were on that day. But beyond that the notion that she was pushing to overturn election? Ginni Thomas was of the belief that the election was being stolen. This is what always…

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: She’s talking about legal strategies to use to show the theft in her mind and in many other people’s minds at that time of the election, she was trying to stop the theft. But notice that’s never entered into the conversation. They make the way they frame the issue to overturn the results of the election is her goal. No, she believed that the election results were invalid as a function of law.

    Now, people can argue that. They can say that’s whatever they want, but that’s a different thing than, “I don’t like this result. Let’s throw it out.” It’s, “They cheated. Let’s show how they cheated.” But they completely misrepresent this whatever they talk about anybody who even had ideas. He didn’t do anything. She wasn’t in, you know, the Capitol parading around.

    CLAY: Also, the only reason she’s a story at all is because of her husband.

    BUCK: Yup.

    CLAY: So this is not actually intended to be an attack on Ginni Thomas because they don’t really care about what Ginni Thomas’ opinions are as it pertains to the 2020 election. This is a direct attack on Clarence Thomas, using his wife as the method by which to attack him. I read in the Sunday New York Times, Buck, Maureen Dowd’s editorial column, demanded that Clarence Thomas either step down or be removed from office — office being defined as Supreme Court justiceship — from his job because of his wife’s texts in regards to the election.

    That’s madness, Buck, to decide that you are going to force someone out of office because of what their wife’s opinions are — which, by the way, it’s not like these were even illegal opinions. There was and remains a very strong argument, particularly in the immediate aftermath of the election, to examine what took place in the election and whether Joe Biden was the legitimately elected president of the United States. Now, there’s been a huge amount of discussion about this, but the idea that Clarence Thomas — which is what they’re trying to get at — should be forced to step down because of his wife’s text messages, is pure madness.

    BUCK: And sexist!

    CLAY: (laughs) And sexist. Good point.

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    Kentucky’s Riley Gaines Tees Off on Swimming Against a Man

    28 Mar 2022

    CLAY: I think you guys are really going to enjoy our only guest here for Monday’s edition of the program. She is Riley Gaines, a senior swimmer at the University of Kentucky. She tied with Lia Thomas — biological man, who has decided to identify as a woman — in this 200-yard freestyle NCAA swimming championships. And this is… There’s so many interesting topics to discuss.

    But, first of all, Riley, I want to say, thank you for coming on and actually being willing to discuss this because so many people who are women swimmers have been afraid to say what they really believe about this issue. So I want to start with this. What, in your experience, was it like to swim against a biological man who was identifying as a woman, and what now your fellow competitors think about that experience? You are a senior. Theoretically, this was the end of your college swimming career. What was it like to be down in Atlanta in the last couple of weeks competing there?

    GAINES: Right. Thank you guys so much for having me. I’ve been super excited to talk about it. But, you know, kind of leading up to the meet, I wasn’t really too sure what to expect, you know. Getting there, you know, racing and stuff, what kind of environment it would be, how people would feel about it, because like you said so many girls hadn’t really mentioned how they felt or, you know, their true feelings going into the meet. And so I was just so curious.

    And then, you know, getting there and racing, I got to talk to other competitors and stuff and see how they felt, and I definitely realized who the silent majority in this whole issue is. And so it was a bit disheartening, you know, watching it. The day before I competed I watch Lia from the 500 freestyle, which was an event I was not in, and it was really just heartbreaking, you know, seeing the girls get ninth and 17th place. But then the next day going into it, my race, it just felt defeating before you even raced, really, which is not a feeling I’m used to.

    BUCK: Hey, Riley, it’s Buck. I’m wondering as you’re saying this about the silent majority on this issue. Do you come across any of your peers, female swimmers who really think that this situation is fair, or is it almost entirely the recognition that there are adults out there, media outlets, NCAA bureaucrats, et cetera, who may come down on them for speaking out? So essentially is the silence of many on this issue just a function of their fear of the consequences for speaking out as you are right now, or do you come across female swimmers who honestly believe that Lia Thomas does not have a biological advantage and that this is fine?

    GAINES: I haven’t personally talked to anyone who does not think she has a biological advantage, because I think there’s no denying that. There are swimmers who are more supportive of it, but there’s definitely the vast majority, you know, don’t think it’s fair to women who, you know, have been, in terms of, you know, the past century, you know, historically oppressed, where a lot of people would use the argument that transgenders are oppressed?

    Well, you know, so have women been. And so I would say that a lot of people do kind of have this fear of speaking out especially in today’s culture where it’s just so easy to get, you know, canceled, as they say, which is something that can affect your future career, all kinds of things, and so people don’t want to get, you know, dragged down with that.

    CLAY: We’re talking to Riley Gaines, University of Kentucky senior swimmer who competed against Lia Thomas, transgender swimmer, at the NCAA championships. Riley, what is the process like — and I believe I saw you comment on this in a Daily Wire article? Do you guys share dressing rooms? Do you share locker rooms with a biological male who identifies as a woman in advance of the competitions or after the competitions? And if so, how awkward is that given the history, obviously, of women’s competitors having women’s locker rooms and men’s competitors having men’s locker rooms?

    GAINES: Right. So the meet last week was an all-female meet and so there wasn’t even a male locker room because there just are, you know, no males on deck, and so going into the meet we were all curious what the situation would be, and so we were just told that we could all use that locker room which is, you know, not a norm sharing locker rooms like that. And so it was a bit shocking that, you know, that was allowed. That’s a whole different issue within itself. And so I will see we were all extremely surprised and, you know, uncomfortable with that because there are girls who that’s not something they would agree to doing, you know, to consent to, and so it just seems like —

    CLAY: So, sorry to cut you off here but I just wanted to build on this a little bit. So you have a biological man who is allowed to come into the locker room that you guys are in preparing to compete, getting ready to swim, and he is using the same locker room as you guys are? And if so what is the reaction in the locker room? Because historically if a man walks into a women’s locker room, that’s a crime in many jurisdictions for virtually everyone out there listening. This is just normalized as, “Oh, he’s going to be able to use the locker room because he identifies as a woman,” and you’re not allowed to say or do anything to disagree with that?

    GAINES: Right. I think the NCAA, you know, did make it seem like it was something that, “Oh, we’ll just all share locker rooms!” But, you know, there’s so many girls who, you know, even have faced sexual assault, and this kind of thing can be traumatic on just so many different levels.

    CLAY: No doubt.

    GAINES: And so going into that locker room the first day and, you know, kind of seeing in there, it was just silent, really. I think it just took all of us by just complete and utter shock, really.

    BUCK: We’re speaking to Riley Gaines. She is a senior at the University of Kentucky. She was a swimmer who tied with Lia Thomas at the NCAA swimming championship in the 200-yard freestyle back on the 18th of March. Riley, do you feel like the conversation is changing now? Essentially, after this Lia Thomas situation, is it now do you think trending toward this will become the norm when there’s a transgender swimmer, or is the pushback growing to the point where there will be a different approach? And as somebody who has swam for many years, competed at the highest level of the NCAA in your sport, what do you think would be a fair policy here? What do you think should happen?

    GAINES: Right. I think since the article I released that the Daily Wire came out, more females have been willing to speak up but there’s just so many who, you know, don’t want to face that backlash, and so I am sorry what the future looks like. But I do the NCAA President Mark Emmert, I believe his name is, released a statement today saying that pretty much unequivocally and firmly stand with, you know, what the rules have been in place.

    And so I believe every athlete deserves to compete if they want no matter what, you know, category you may fall in. And I believe everyone should be treated with respect and dignity. But there’s a reason why Olympians don’t compete with Paralympians, and there’s a reason why, you know, you don’t have collegiate athletes on a 12-and-under team. And so there’s just, you know, these divisions and these boundaries that have to be made for things to, you know, remain fair — and it’s not a political argument. It’s not any hate towards one person or one group. But it’s just a matter of fairness and what’s right.

    BUCK: Have any administrators or staff personnel, anybody tried to coerce your opinions on this to try to say, “Hey, watch out,” or, “You shouldn’t do this,” or has anyone threatened consequences for you at the university for speaking out? I’m just wondering where the pressure might be coming from.

    GAINES: No. My university specifically, you know, has offered me a ton of support, and they want to protect me and want to make sure, you know, that I know what I’m doing and I don’t put myself in some sort of pickle. But they’ve been extremely supportive and I’m super-duper thankful for that, but I know there has been some girls from universities, even some parents have reached out to me saying that coaches and athletic directors and, you know, SIDs have told their swimmers that they’re not allowed to say anything no matter how they feel.

    And so it just really kind of puts this, you know, barricade up for so many athletes who have a voice and want to use it but are scared of, you know, repercussions — whether that may be within your institution or, you know, like I said earlier your future career endeavors — and so I do believe there’s, you know, kind of this big wall up.

    CLAY: Riley, I’m assuming you started swimming at a super-young age before you obviously went to the University of Kentucky. You’re a senior now. Do you think — and, first of all, again, congrats to you for having the bravery to speak out.

    GAINES: Thank you so much.

    CLAY: But do you think about what sports could look like in the future? And thank you for coming on the show. When we’re talking about one transgender athlete right now. But in theory, there will be more in the years ahead. We had… In speaking to your point about women not wanting to speak out, several of the U Penn women’s team members reached out to the site that I run, OutKick.

    And they said, “We’re not allowed to put our actual names on it because they told us we’re not allowed to speak, basically, on this issue.” But several of those girls said, “If we had three or four transgender people on a swim team, it destroys women’s sports in many ways.” Are you concerned about the future of women’s athletics in general as more biological men decide to identify as women, and where could that lead if it continues to grow?

    GAINES: Yeah, for sure. I think this opens a whole can of worms seeing a biological male win a national title against Olympians, really, and so I think it just opens a whole ‘nother door to a whole different realm, and it does put women’s athletics and women’s sports in total danger, really. And I think if the NCAA doesn’t recognize that, I think there will be a big consequence for women.

    BUCK: Riley Gaines. Riley, thank you so much for speaking on this issue, your bravery on it. We appreciate people telling the truth about what’s actually going on who are experiencing it themselves. Thank you so much.

    GAINES: Yeah, thank you guys.

    CLAY: That is Riley Gaines, University of Kentucky senior swimmer.

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    Appropriating from Libs: Milk Jokes, Scarfs, Scooters and Avocado Toast

    28 Mar 2022

    BUCK: Clay, I caught heat because I made a joke about milk over the weekend on Twitter and how I went to get a cup of coffee —

    CLAY: Who in the world was offended by your milk joke?

    BUCK: Tons of blue checks.

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: Tons of them. They are total lunatics.

    CLAY: I saw that joke, and I was like, “Yeah, you’re in the South. People just get milk in their coffee or whatever.”

    BUCK: I just went to a couple of coffee shots, “Hey, what you want?” “Coffee with milk.” I’m like, “Great.” I have made jokes in the past about as a New Yorker now, the coffee shop — when I’m not drinking my Black Rifle, which I love, but sometimes I’m on the move and I happen to not have it. I’ll go in and say, “Can I have coffee?” I’ll say “milk,” and they ask me, “Which kind?”

    Now, all the idiot blue checks out there are saying, “Oh, sorry capitalism that you love so much has given you all these options,” to which I want to say to them, “I’m not saying I can’t get the other milks. I’m just saying, if you want oat milk, you should just specify oat milk. But if you just say ‘milk,’ in the English language, that should mean the stuff that comes out of a cow in the context of a coffee shop.”

    It’s also known as a joke. Like, I’m not actually upset about this. I was just kidding. Clay, dozens of journalists working for whatever the lib newspaper is in Jacksonville and all, “Mwuh! We have lots of milk down here, too, Mr. Fancy.” I’m like, “What is wrong with you people?” But you know what it is? They know that I’m somebody who makes fun of their stupid announcing of pronouns. They know that I make fun of their dumb masks. They just hate me, and so when they see an opportunity to be like, “Grrr,” that’s what’s happening.

    CLAY: It’s also whatever you say on social media, people get so fired up. I remember years ago I went on and I was like, I’m a big cobbler guy, you know, right? Not in terms of making my own shoes. As in I love cobbler. And, by the way, blackberry cobbler in my humble opinion, greatest of the cobblers right? And so at some point I was like, “Hey, I think the best desert is cobbler,” and people got so angry. They were like, “Cobbler sucks! I hate cobbler!”

    I was like, it didn’t matter, and that’s why to a large extent I don’t really read the mentions for whatever reason. People get in arguments with each other and everything else. I give my opinion, and then I kind of just let the battle take place. But it’s crazy how opinionated people are about things that are very innocuous, right, that don’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. People want to, like, knock you out over it.

    BUCK: Just some people like, “Oh, what do you deal with in Clay and Buck World?” the two of us and other people who do this, too, you know, I can say something like I think, you know… I think that green bean casserole is the worst Thanksgiving side. Let’s say I said that.

    CLAY: A strong argument, by the way, in my opinion. I’m not a green bean guy.

    BUCK: People are gonna come at me on that one. But instead of just saying “I disagree,” this is the world of political discourse now online. Instead of someone saying, “I disagree. Green bean casserole is delicious,” they’re like, “Why are you so ugly and stupid? Your mother should be ashamed of you.”

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: You know what I mean? Can we just — and I’m sure you deal with this in sports sometimes you push for the wrong team you say a player shouldn’t get an amount of money and people completely lose their minds.

    CLAY: Yeah, that’s why politics… People say the transition from sports to politics. When you have picked a team in a Southeastern Conference football rivalry to beat another team, there’s nothing people can say. Like, when you pick Alabama or Auburn, there’s nothing. Georgia-Auburn, you know, Tennessee-Alabama, Florida-Georgia, you pick one side or the other there, there’s nothing that anybody can say to you in the world of politics that is angrier or meaner than what they say when you pick against their favorite college football team. So, I mean, I gotta have really thick skin but it is funny to me how angry people get about just a simple opinion like yours. “Hey, it’s great that we have just normal milk, and we don’t have all these crazy milk substitutes.”

    BUCK: I could read… I have, like, some professor from like a university in Korea. Obviously he’s an American; he’s teaching over there. He’s lecturing me on how this is evidence of my closed-mindedness which is a trait of conservatives. I’m like, “What is wrong with everybody?”

    CLAY: Blue check gets so much angrier at you than they do me. I can barely get a blue check to come after me.

    BUCK: They love the sports guy. You’re sports. You’re fun. I’m sitting here talking about crushing libs with perfect hair, so they hate me.

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: They hate me. Anyway. All right. Here we go.

    CLAY: Actually, the most criticism you’ve gotten on your show was for your Simone Biles take back in the Summer Olympics, probably.

    BUCK: The left went nuts on me over that.

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    BUCK: You know, sometimes, Clay, I gotta tell you, I like to engage in “appropriation” from the libs. You know what? I like their foamy lattes — I’ll just say it right now — and even their… You always bring up the scarf.

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: The scarf is actually a keffiyeh that I bought in a marketplace on deployment in Afghanistan. So I’m just throwing that out there. A little different than a scarf. (French accent. “It’s not like my name is Jacques, and I’m smoking a gauloises with a scarf indoors.”

    CLAY: I don’t know how much the scarf makes you warmer. Like, is your throat the area between where your shirt ends and your beard begins — is that area on your body — just frigid, like, you have to warm it so much? Like, I’ve just never thought to myself like, “You know, I’m really cold, and the part of my body that’s really the coldest is my neck.” Like, I’ve never been a need-to-warm-my-neck guy.

    BUCK: My man, we got solid-gold vocal chords here. We got Lloyds of London needs to insure them.

    CLAY: Gotta preserve the pipes?

    BUCK: Did you ever get a cortisone shot to open up your throat to do a radio show? ‘Cause I had to do that the first time I ever filled in for Rush, the greatest.

    CLAY: I’ve been… I mean, it’s ridiculous, because to worry about voice working, when I first started doing three hours a day of radio, I was worried because most people don’t talk that much, right, where you are literally talking as much as we are on a day-to-day basis. But I’m knocking furiously on this Formica or this fake wood or whatever it is. I’ve never had a voice-related issue where I’ve been concerned about being able to speak on air. Now, I’ve sounded bad (chuckles) as people who are listening to us right now know, we had like the worst cold in the history of colds.

    BUCK: We had back-to-back covid, basically, and hadn’t even been within 500 miles of the same place or same studios. That can happen. So, anyway, on my lib appropriation thing, ’cause I like their frothy lattes. I even sometimes have the turmeric latte. Try it sometimes, folks. Don’t knock it ’til you try it. I’m telling you it’s pretty good. The keffiyeh from Afghanistan is not really quite as… You know, that’s more of a keepsake. Indoor scarves. I’m not gonna… I’m a scarf guy, Clay. I like scarves, sometimes.

    CLAY: I don’t wear a scarf.

    BUCK: Yeah, you’re in Nashville. No one in Nashville wears a scarf. You guys might wire bolo ties, not gonna wear scarves. And this other thing, e-scooters, which according to the Wall Street Journal “are having a moment as gas prices surge, consumers sick of paying premium prices at the pump increasingly relying on electric scooters to get around.” Now, I gotta tell you something. I had never ridden one of these things ’til my brothers came to visit me in Washington, D.C., when I was work at The Hill a few years and one of them said, “You know, there’s this program…”

    I saw them all over. They would leave them on. It was like a ride share, and it was like a beautiful day there. I had never ridden one of these things before. I’m gonna tell you, yes, they look nerdy, but they are so… When you’re on them and you’re going around a city, they’re so much, like, goofy fun. They’re so fun to ride around on, and they’re having a moment now because in a lot of places if you can get five or six miles without having to get into your car, which is about what some of these, each way —

    CLAY: The range.

    BUCK: — reasonably do, you could do five or six each way, people are relying on more and more on these e-scooters. And I understand. I’m trying to tell people Clay, “It’s a little bit like Tesla. Electric car used to be the Prius. It used to be on the Bernie Sanders-voting commie who, you know, watches MSNBC drive a Prius.” But then the Tesla came along and now Elon’s pretty amazing. Electric scooters, I know people think of them as some kind of a lib urban thing, you know, lib city thing, but they’re really fun. I’m just gonna tell you they’re really fun.

    CLAY: Here is my question. Are you the only Trump voter on an electric scooter with a scarf in all of New York City?

    BUCK: Oh, yes. Yes.

    CLAY: Is there anyone else? If we just were like giving, you know, the Venn diagram of overlapping Trump voter with e-scooter, scarf, living in New York City, you might be the only person. Well, you’ve got your oat milk.

    BUCK: Drinking a turmeric latte!

    CLAY: Yeah.

    BUCK: Turmeric latte. Throw that in.

    CLAY: Here’s a confession from me, by the way. The lib popularity thing that I’ve embraced actually pretty good. I know people ridicule it. Avocado toast is pretty good. You ever had at avocado toast that every makes fun of?

    BUCK: I could sit here on make fun of you. Avocado toast on gluten-free bread is my jam, Travis, I love it.

    CLAY: I was initially like, “Look at all these Millennials and their young people with their stupid avocado toast.” I had it and I’m like, “Man, this avocado toast stuff, I’m not gonna knock it anymore. It’s really good.”

    BUCK: I will take the tools of the enemy, my friend, avocado toast, turmeric lattes, you name it, I’m into it.

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    The View and Howard Stern Agree with C&B!

    28 Mar 2022

    BUCK: Let’s be clear: We do know here on the show there are more important things to be sure in this country and the world than one slap at the Oscars, but it is interesting when you get into the layers of this how people view it, and it has become a topic of discussion.

    CLAY: It’s the topic for today.

    BUCK: It is the topic of discussion for today. So we’re being honest to the subject matter or to the interests of the news cycle, and we’ll come into some other stuff in a moment here. But, Clay, this off the Daily Mail: “Academy members hold emergency Zoom talks over whether to strip Will Smith of his” best ass… “best-actor Oscar….”

    CLAY: He does have a great ass, I gotta say.

    BUCK: “…best actor Oscar,” I was trying to read the headline, “after he assaulted Chris Rock as hypocritical Hollywood stars clamor to congratulate him.” So it does seem that there’s now a little bit of a… You told me just now in the commercial — Clay and I never stop talking about this stuff — apparently The View agrees with us.

    CLAY: This is maybe the… We need like a breaking news sounder to put on here. The View and, by the way, Howard Stern have also come down… This may be the first time that the Clay and Buck show, The View, and Howard Stern show have all three agreed with the response here as you can’t defend Will Smith in any way. I’m not in favor of ever stripping somebody of their award. He acted well. I feel this way about all sorts of, you know, retroactive punishment.

    BUCK: He didn’t cheat to get the Oscar. It’s a different thing.

    CLAY: That’s right, but I don’t think… There was the story that came out that said Chris Rock has declined to press charges. Why does Chris Rock need to press charges when it’s a clear assault that happened on international television that we all saw? To me, setting the precedent of you can’t walk up on a stage and attack a performer… Think about this, whether it’s a singer, whether it’s a comedian, whether it’s somebody at a Broadway play. The stage is sacrosanct. You shouldn’t be able to go onto the stage and attack anybody who’s performing there. That’s assault.

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