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UC Berkeley Professor Calls for Elimination of White People

1 Mar 2022

BUCK: I want to note that it’s possible you might hear something tonight in the State of Union address and in terms of how Democrats are gonna try to frame the issue of the parental revolt against CRT in schools, and the way that this was a mobilizing, unifying force going into the Virginia election. Remember, the Democrat governor’s race in New Jersey was actually pretty close, which was remarkable —

CLAY: Oh, yeah.

BUCK: — when you think about it, it’s a very blue state — because of this phenomenon. So, yes, the Democrats recognize that this is a major challenge to them, and it continues on. Whenever you see debates over CRT, you have a lot of leftists who get very snide, and they say, “Oh, you don’t know what it is,” or “Oh, that’s not CRT” or “CRT’s not being taught.” And then it turns out they have to back off because parents go, “Well, hold on a second, look at this. Hold on a second, this video exists, or that video shows what they’re teaching in schools.”

This is… If you pay enough attention, you’ll just see it crossing a radar on social media at some point, the video or either teaching materials. The UC Berkeley professor Zeus Leonardo — Clay did you say this, by the way? It’s on CRT. Did you see what this guy has to say about —

CLAY: I saw the headline, but I haven’t heard the audio?

BUCK: Why are parents so fired up about stuff being caught to their kids? Well, when you get to the get level of CRT being taught to kids, you’ll hear things — this is UC Berkeley who is supposed to be an elite school though all the elite schools now are basically social justice factors of lunacy.

BUCK: Did you hear what the pathetic little Marxist said there, Clay? “To abolish whiteness is to abolish white people.” Oh! Okay.

CLAY: Seems kind of like a bad thing to abolish a race of people, but I don’t know. Kind of a genocide. Big picture, there is no good response here, which is why we’re eight months, basically… By the way, today is the first primary that I’m aware of, state of Texas. Many of you out there listening right now are going to vote in the Texas Democrat and Republican primaries today.

But if you are paying attention, what you cannot allow to happen is for eight months of whitewashing on covid to convince you that somehow the Democrats solved covid, because that’s their opening fusillade that they’re going to have — interesting word — that they’re going to have tonight in the State of the Union.

They are going to begin the argument of “Joe Biden beat covid” because they are aware that there’s nothing else that they can argue on behalf of Joe Biden. Inflation’s a disaster. Murder rate’s skyrocketing. Border’s a mess. Afghanistan, Ukraine, all of it’s a failure. Only thing they can argue and covid and they’re gonna try to argue — with every fiber of their being — that they solved covid.

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C&B Preview Biden’s State of the Union Speech

1 Mar 2022

CLAY: We want to here give you an early preview of what we think Joe Biden is going to argue at his State of the Union address. And so I have got four things that I am supremely confident in, Buck, will be a part of this State of the Union, all right? By the way, Nancy Pelosi has also joined Joe Biden in saying that she’s also not going to be wearing a mask, but she said if she had young children or some sort of immune-related disease, they would be wearing a mask.

The young children part of that… First of all, she’s 80. She hasn’t had young children in 60 years. But the young children part of this makes zero sense because, statistically, kids are not in danger from covid, and so it’s a totally nonsensical statement by her. The Party of Science yet again demonstrating that they have no knowledge of actual science. But it also flies directly in the face of Jen Psaki attempting to argue that it’s just coincidence that mask mandates are vanishing just in time for the State of the Union.

Buck, it’s a big deal for Democrats, and this is one of my four-part things that I believe Joe Biden is going to get into in the State of the Union. So, let me start here. I think Joe Biden will mention inflation, but he will mention inflation in the context of the reason why inflation exists — this is the argument he’s gonna make — is because we have the largest economic expansion ever. We’ve created more new jobs than any administration ever.

Now, that’s a lie because the jobs that we are getting are the jobs that we forced people to leave back in March of 2020 and we still don’t have the same number of jobs. We have not recovered a lot of people going back in March of 2020. But he’s gonna say we have the greatest economy ever; the inflation is a cost of that. And he’s gonna pivot and argue, Buck, that the way to handle inflation is by passing his Build Back Better bill, which is totally insane.

You’re not gonna solve inflation by spending trillions of dollars more, but that is prong one of the four prongs that I’m confident he’s going to argue. Second one. He’s going to talk about Ukraine in the context of fighting for democracy and tie that in with January 6th and argue that that is a battle that the United States will fight around the world but also is fighting on our own backyard.

And he’ll cite January 6th and argue that there was an attempt to overthrow the government, even though it’s not true, as an insurrection. He’ll also… It wouldn’t surprise me if he takes a dig at Donald Trump by saying, “Putin is not a genius, he’s a brutal dictator,” something along those lines. I would not be surprised. He’s gonna argue — and this is why they’re not wearing masks, Buck. He’s gonna argue that they beat covid thanks to his actions. And finally, he’s going to try and take a lap for success on the Supreme Court using diversity and inclusion as the argument there. Do you think I’m going four for four? Do you think all four of those are gonna hit?

BUCK: Yeah. Yeah. I think that’s right. I think, Clay, it’ll be fascinating to watch a presidency that has, in year one, less to cheer about and less to show for $1.9 trillion in partisan spending. It was just Democrats who went with that earlier on in 2021, and so much-of-what was promised — the Biden agenda, for example — he couldn’t even get his own party to pass it. They keep saying, “It’s so popular!” They keep saying, “Oh, but everyone wants this!”

Really? ‘Cause apparently not. But there’s gonna be a lot of that. There’s gonna be a lot of the attempt to convince people that what they see, what they’ve experienced, what the numbers say somehow doesn’t matter, that Biden is operating at some level of 4-D chess. He’s at the next level of Democrat strategery where, just give it time, it’s all going to be amazing. Clay, in every one of these areas where there has been failure of this administration up to this point, none of it is surprising.

None of it is actually something that wasn’t foreseeable. You spend too much money, you get inflation. You refuse to enforce the law at the border and in the interior when it comes to illegal immigration, you get more illegal immigration. You undermine cops, you defund police, you have progressive prosecutors, you empty out the prisons, you’re gonna have more crime. All of these things, there’s cause and effect.

And that’s what I think is so damaging for the Democrats, a lot of these areas where they’ve had failure. What happens in Afghanistan? The Afghan military after 20 years of training crumbled and did nothing and didn’t actually fight and we had to run off that country as fast as we possibly could. People saw the images themselves, right? They know what they’ve experienced under this administration.

And here’s the other part of it. The memory of, “Oh, Trump is so terrifying and the insurrection. That only got them so far.” The first six months, all Biden had to say was (impression), ‘Our democracy! It’s under threat, folks, under threat, you know?” Everyone said, “Oh, okay, fine, he’s so much better than Trump.” Not everyone listening to this but, you know, the Democrats who voted for him. We’re a year in. What does this guy have to show for it?

Tonight is really the State of the Dumpster Fire address because that’s what Biden’s administration has been. And it’ll be fascinating to watch — and I think it’s perfect that Biden and Pelosi, no masks all of a sudden. You could not script.. If you were writing this as a screenplay, you could not write a better moment to should he the theatricality and politics behind masking all along. If anyone should continue masking, it’s Biden, it’s Pelosi, it’s people basically in their eighties. By the way, you’re in your eighties, don’t mask. It doesn’t do anything. But the point is if anyone was —

CLAY: If anybody was going to do it. You’re right.

BUCK: And yet they’re gonna walk around and act like they’re heroes and they’ve been right the whole time. It’s just galling. The level of brazenness, of the lies that we’ve been told, not just on covid but on every aspect of this. Clay, Biden never should have been the nominee, never been should have been president. This is clear. It’s already clear. And Democrats recognize it at some level, but what are they gonna do? They got the tiger by the tail here.

They don’t want to deal with the alternative scenario would be having him step down for Kamala. We all that know Kamala’s probably a bigger liability for the Democrats from an electoral perspective than Biden. So I don’t know. There will be talk about jobs. Biden loves to go, “Jobs! Jobs, folks! Jobs!” He just yells it and gets all squinty and yells it. That will be a big push. He’ll say he’s created all these jobs. I don’t think anybody’s really gonna come away from… First of all, nobody’s gonna remember this speech. We’ll talk about it tomorrow to analyze it. No one’s gonna remember it. And they get nothing, man. They got nothing.

CLAY: I really do think that the pivot is going to be that they beat covid. Like, I always try to think — and this may be the lawyer training in me. But one of the things about being a lawyer is, sometimes you look at the facts and you’re like, “I got a bad side here,” (laughs) and this is where any lawyer out there can tell you, it’s a lot like being a coach. You know, sometimes it’s how good a talent you got. You gotta try to put the best game plan together, even when you’ve got a losing hand.

And Joe Biden has got maybe the worst hand in the history of a first-year presidency in any of our lives. I mean that legitimately. I don’t think that’s hyperbole. I’m not sure that you can point — and I know we got a lot of people of a lot of different ages. Buck, you and I right around 40. Some people consider that young. You know, middle-age, whatever you want to call us. Two generations. And I know there’s people out there listening who are 80 and beyond.

I don’t think, no matter how old you are right now, I don’t think we have ever had an American presidency in anyone’s life who is listening right now that has been as bad as Joe Biden’s first year. That’s not hyperbole. That’s not me trying… I know everybody wanted to compare Biden to Jimmy Carter. I think at this point it’s unfair to Jimmy Carter. Biden is far worse than Jimmy Carter ever was.

And, by the way, Jimmy Carter was competent, he was intelligent, he was able to at least fashion his own thoughts. Now, he didn’t make good choices and things did not go well for him. But Jimmy Carter is, like, orders of magnitude greater. I would trade Jimmy Carter — maybe even Jimmy Carter at this age now — for Joe Biden now. But certainly 30 years ago Jimmy Carter.

BUCK: Yeah. Something I like to remind everybody about as well is the storyline that was used, the narrative that was used to get Joe Biden elected. Put aside the covid pandemic and how they weaponized that, that was important. But I’m saying another area to focus on is this story that Joe Biden is a really decent, warm, friendly, better kind of politician.

He’s Grandpa Joe riding the Amtrak choo-choo to work every day! You know, he’s just one of the guys. Total bull. I mean, yeah, when his son is not getting paid $80,000 a month by Ukrainian oligarchs or running around a Chinese hedge funds and saying… But put all that aside for a second. Here’s the kind of stuff that Joe Biden says even this week and we’re supposed to believe he’s a nice guy?

BIDEN: We’re gonna keep pushing on this, and we’re protecting our country’s threshold liberty, the sacred right to vote — which I’ve never seen is under such attack. You know, it’s always made it harder for blacks to vote, but this is trying to figure out how to keep the black vote from it occurs from even counting.

CLAY: Total lie.

BUCK: It’s just not true.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: It’s nasty. It’s racial demagoguery, and he knows it, but he doesn’t care. He’s not a nice guy, Clay.

CLAY: Yeah, I agree he’s not a nice guy. I don’t know that he’s smart enough to even know that the things he’s saying are not true now. And “smart” may be the wrong word. I don’t know that he’s functionally with it enough to even understand arguments and counterarguments right now. I really don’t have that sense. If he’s not reading directly off a prompter…

It’s always difficult, I think, when you’re in the White House to be aware of what the real world is like because you’re in that strange universe of the White House, which is abnormal. What did Harry Truman say, “Being a president is like trying to ride a tiger”? I do think there’s truth to that whether you’re a Democrat or whether you’re Republican. But I don’t think Joe Biden has any clue what’s really going on.

When he was wearing that mask walking across that grassy field at the White House yesterday, Buck, I watched that for a couple of minutes, watched on him walk, and I thought to myself, “It is the very definition of ‘the lights are on but no one’s home,'” right? There’s no… You can almost see it in the eyes. He doesn’t have the cognitive ability to be aware.

And I know we’ve used this analogy before, Buck. But every day it feels more and more like Joe Biden is… It’s Thanksgiving, and Joe Biden is the elderly relative at your Thanksgiving dinner who is unable to know what’s going on, follow the conversation, in any way be cognizant of what the actual day-to-day activity is there.

BUCK: The Democrats are the party that mandates child abuse through masking in schools, and engages in elder abuse by propping up this guy, Joe Biden, who… I don’t like pointing this stuff out.

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: But they never should have made him president. They never… It was a reckless thing to do, to pretend that he was up for this and of sound mind for the job.

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New Poll: Biden Job Approval Down to 35%

1 Mar 2022

CLAY: I don’t know if you saw this, Buck, but the numbers that came out in the most recent Civiqs poll, this came out this morning, and it’s I think emblematic of the fact that it’s occurring right now. New Civiqs poll: Joe Biden’s job approval has fallen now to 35% with a 55% disapproval rate. Independents are approving of Joe Biden right now at a rate of 23%. Let me repeat that again.

The independent voter approval rating for Joe Biden, 23%, and 64% disapproval. In the Senate battleground states — Buck, you and I have talked quite a bit about flipping the Senate back to Republican control. Joe Biden’s approval rating right now in the state of Georgia, 32%. Herschel Walker has to win. Whoever is the Republican nominee for the governorship has to beat Stacey Abrams.

Arizona, 34% approval. Pennsylvania, 34% approval. Nevada — we talked with Adam Laxalt, who is running for Senate there — 35% approval. Wisconsin, 38%. These numbers are unlike anything we have ever seen for a Democratic president, especially ’cause we know the polls tend to be biased in his favor, and they’re still this bad.

BUCK: Obama was polarizing early on with policies, right? Obama was effectively giving the left and the more socialist wing of the Democrat Party what it wanted in his first term. Obamacare obviously became the huge fight. But you could see how Republicans and maybe even independents — although we’d have to go back and look at the numbers — were very opposed to him. But he was delivering for Democrats, right?

That’s a very important component of what he was doing early on in his term. Wasn’t a good idea, bad for the country. Everybody knows how I feel about that and you feel like that but that’s not the point. The point is he was delivering for Democrats. Fast-forward to Joe Biden, Clay. He’s not delivering for anybody. This is the big challenge that we see for this administration. It’s not just he has done things, right? Obamacare polarizing: 50-50, or 52-48 or whatever the numbers were doing when you looked at them early on.

With Joe Biden, nobody likes inflation. Nobody likes high crime rates. Nobody wants a war in Europe. Nobody wants a disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. Even the left sees this stuff and goes… Look, they want their socialism, their Big Government. They want the big-spending Biden agenda. They want all this stuff, but he hasn’t even delivered for the base. He’s refused to turn back toward the sanity of the center and do what’s best for the country.

He’s not pulling a Clintonian triangulation yet. But he can’t even say to them, “Hey, guys, back me up. I’m giving you everything we want. I’ve got Biden agenda through. I’m giving you the Green New Deal. I’m getting amnesty through the Senate” or whatever. He’s doing the bare minimum in terms of accomplishing what the socialists want on the left and at the same time everybody who’s just looking at this objectively — which is why the independent numbers I think are so clear, Clay — are saying they got nothing to celebrate. There’s nothing to point to here.

CLAY: Twenty-three percent independent approval, and this is the underlying reason why all of a sudden covid has vanished because — and we’ll talk about this when we come back at the top of the next hour. I want with you, as we go into this break and start to think about it: What is the pitch for Joe Biden? Did you see yesterday — I’m sure you did, Buck — the video of Biden walking. It looks like he was saying, “Don’t fall down!

“Don’t fall down!” as he walked across the White House grounds by himself in that oversized, ridiculous black mask that he’s been wearing for a couple of years now. Outdoors, nobody within a hundred feet of him, he’s wearing a mask. Tonight in the House Chamber for the State of the Union address, he’s not going to be wearing a mask. So for all those people out there who are screaming, “Oh, we’re the party of science! We’re gonna take covid seriously,” how do you explain Joe Biden in that big, oversize mask walking by himself?

Buck, honestly, it’s difficult to watch Joe Biden even walk because I legitimately expect for him to fall at any point. He is that frail. Certainly, we’ve seen him already fall down going up the stairs on his Air Force One stair climb. When he’s walking across… I saw somebody — it might have been our buddy Jesse Kelly — say that Biden was walking like he was trying to pretend he wasn’t drunk.

After being out golfing all day and he’s coming back home, and he knows his wife is looking at him out the window, and he’s trying to walk. He walked like SpongeBob SquarePants, if you have kids, and now suddenly he’s not gonna have a mask on at tonight’s State of the Union?

What’s going on there? How can the party of science say, “Mask up outdoors” literally yesterday, and today they’re gonna say, “Well, you no longer need a mask indoors?”

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Psaki Can’t Explain Why Biden’s Not Sanctioning Russian Energy

1 Mar 2022

DESANTIS: This is a guy who’s basically an authoritarian gas station attendant, okay, with some legacy nuclear weapons from the old Soviet Union. They… Their whole society is hollowed out except for that energy, and so if you want to hit them, hit ’em at the gas pump. Hit ’em. Hit ’em with energy.

BUCK: Welcome back to the Clay and Buck show. That was the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, taking some shots at Vladimir Putin and bringing up something that is really at the center of this from the U.S. perspective. How much can we do, what should we do in response to invasion of Ukraine? Just as an update right now on what’s going on, the capital of Kiev is increasingly coming under Russian air strike and artillery and muscle strikes.

And so that’s likely to continue. Some are saying there might be a true siege of the capital city as Russian forces continue to move into the country. Keep in mind, it’s only a small portion of the Russian forces that have already been prepositioned for this invasion that have been deployed. Casualties are going up, civilian casualties going up with each passing day. This fighting looks to be getting worse, and it does not seem that there is any imminent negotiation going on.

So now we turn to what is the U.S. and Western response to this going to be, what levels are we willing to take it to? And you had Ron DeSantis there talking about the energy sector and how we have put sanctions — “we” meaning the West generally but America specifically — on Russia, Clay, in order to create economic pressure. And the ruble has fallen and the stock market is tanking over there.

And they’re feeling it, but they’re not feeling it at an economic existential level, like we won’t be able to pay our bills, no milk in the store, no bread on the shelves level. Instead, we have carved out their energy sector and said, “Well, we’re not gonna hit that.” And here is Psaki, White House press secretary, trying to tell everybody, “Well, that’s ’cause it would have big impacts on us here at home if we were to do that.” Play it.

BUCK: Clay, she’s basically… She is actually just saying, “Yeah, we could hit Russia a lot harder economically, but that would hurt us, too, economically. That would cause an increase in gas prices.” I think Democrats realize this is a political vulnerability, which is why, more than anything else — although I’m sure they also don’t want to see higher prices across the board. I think that they realize this is a problem for them going into the State of the Union, going into the midterm election as well.

CLAY: Well, people are gonna start to put two and two together here. This isn’t complicated. You can’t be social justice warrior-ing on Twitter and saying, “Oh, look at what we’re doing. We’re pulling Russian vodka off of our shelves. We’re not gonna buy Russian vodka.” Meanwhile, we are buying millions of barrels of oil and the price of oil literally, as we are speaking right now, has risen to the highest level since 2014, over $100 a barrel.

And this is where the United States not maximizing its energy production, in particular in the oil and gas… For instance, Buck, I saw Senator Marco Rubio point out that we are producing over one million less gallons of oil per day, barrels of oil per day than we were before Joe Biden took office. Why did that happen? Because of this whole Green New Deal energy process that they put in place. So you can’t have it both ways.

You can’t social justice warrior for Ukraine and argue, “Hey, let’s pour out all the Russian vodka” and, meanwhile, be passing money directly to Russia for buying a million barrels of oil from Russia every day, which is what the United States is doing, on average. That means we’re giving Russia over $100 million a day while we’re claiming that we are bringing to bear economic sanctions upon them. You’re fighting a battle with one arm behind your back.

And when that is occurring, sooner or later that dichotomy becomes apparent. If you are going to stand up to Russia, then you’re gonna have to bear the price of increased oil or you’re gonna have to do what I think most people would agree listening to this program: You’re going to have to produce the highest amount of oil that the United States possibly can in an effort to help to make up for what you’re losing from Russia in terms of production.

BUCK: He’s Jen Psaki on this very issue this morning on Fox News talking about how the Keystone XL pipeline would take a long time to address markets. We’ll address this in a second. Listen.

BUCK: Now, let’s be honest about this. This is purely ideologically and emotionally driven for Democrats, the opposition just to Keystone XL but specifically in that case, ’cause it doesn’t stop the oil from… Canadian shale oil or shale sand, whatever. I forget what the technical term for it is. It’s gonna get pumped either way, right? They’re actually gonna be using that oil regardless so it doesn’t change the emission. It’s just a question of whether the U.S. has a hand in it or not with the pipeline.

But, Clay, they’re hostile to fossil fuel across the board. They’re hostile to exploration, to exploration on federal land. They make it more difficult for the energy sector. They talk about shutting down — they brag about shutting down — aspects of the energy sector. So, yeah, it would affect things maybe in a few hours, but the point is they’re on the wrong side of the issue because we still live in a world that runs on fossil fuel, and they need to stop acting like idiot children who can’t see that.

CLAY: Well, and everybody is going to slowly realize this, that you can’t have sanctions or an embargo against Russian goods and carve out a massive exception that allows the Russian economy to continue to flourish in many ways, right? So this is the essence of what is going on (laughs) and it’s fundamentally, directly contradictory. You can’t sanction a country and argue that you’re going to bring them to their knees economically while you are simultaneously sending them $100 million a day in oil money.

It doesn’t add up. Either you have to provide real sanctions without this massive loophole or, or you have to figure out — maybe both. But certainly, you have to figure out a way to make up for the oil that right now we are sending money to Russia for and produce that oil and gas ourselves. Energy independence not only for the United States but also being able to sell that to all the other countries that are otherwise purchasing oil themselves. That’s the essence of the issue, and that’s what more and more Americans I think are gonna see as this process plays itself out.

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NYC Mayor Won’t Lift Vax Mandate to Get Kyrie on the Court

1 Mar 2022

CLAY: Buck, it’s possible that I’m gonna be able to come up to New York City again at some point soon as New York City is basically planning to do away with the mask mandates and the covid vaccine mandates. But there’s one absurdity here that deserves to be talked about because it still points to how crazy many of these rules are. Kyrie Irving refused to get vaccinated.

He’s a player for the Brooklyn Nets team, and he now, under the new New York City rules, is still not going to be able to play in games in New York City, but he can sit courtside and watch them — and also, any player who’s unvaccinated that travels to New York City can play in games. Eric Adams got asked about this absurdity, the new mayor of New York City, and he had this to say.

ADAMS: Listen, I want Kyrie on the court. You know, I will do anything to get that ring. So badly I want… I want it. But it’s so much at stake here. And, you know, I (sputters) spoke with the owner of the team. We want to find a way to get Kyrie on the court, but this is a big issue. And it would send wrong message to have an exception for one player when we’re telling countless number of New York City employees: If you don’t follow the rules, you won’t be able to be employed.

BUCK: This is about punishing those who don’t comply, obviously, right?

CLAY: Yes. And there’s no at this point health requirement, right, because you think about this. Again, he can sit courtside, eat popcorn, have a soda, have a beer, no issue. And this is about still trying to punish people over whether or not they got the vaccine.

BUCK: I’ve seen videos of high school, junior high kids in places like New York playing basketball and then they all mask up when they sit on the bench.

CLAY: Yeah. Yes.

BUCK: But when they’re actually right up against each other playing the game, breathing, and their spit flying everywhere, everything else. No masks. It’s not about the science. I mean, people have been, like, “How did I know that masks did work? How did we know that masks weren’t gonna do anything?”

One of the easiest ways was that early on, Clay, we would talk about actual human usage versus theoretical laboratory testing. Human usage of a mask, which he’s all know ’cause we’ve had to wear these stupid things for two years is, pull it up, pull it down, move turnover, put it on, take it off. That is… Imagine I sent you into a room with mustard gas and said, “Take your gas mask off, breathe a few times, put it back on, take it off.”

You’ll say, “Well, I’m on getting the exposed to the gas.” Nobody… It was impossible the argument that they were making, impossibly stupid arguments. It was like the people on the airplanes. Remember the airline attendants used to tell you to put your Kindle away because it was an electronic device? There was a time when you couldn’t have a Kindle in your hand because it constituted —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — it might create… I was like, if this electronic interference with cash or interfere with this plane in any way, we are all gonna die.

CLAY: We’re in trouble.

BUCK: There’d be planes falling out of the sky all the time. They finally got rid of that ’cause it was too stupid. But this is where we’ve gone now, Clay. They’re clinging to the things that are so dumb that no serious person can believe them. Like this policy with Kyrie Irving.

CLAY: Like the Kyrie Irving and even crazier, kids, right? Anybody who’s ever watched a kid, the idea that kids wearing masks were gonna somehow protect people inside of schools was laughably absurd.

BUCK: Hey, Fauci needs some PR these days. He needs some… He hasn’t had any reps on TV or radio. Maybe he should be come on. He could explain to me how mask up between bites is scientific, the evil little tyrant.

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Desperate Dems Ditch Masks, But We Won’t Forget in November

1 Mar 2022

BUCK: We wanted to talk to you about the mask situation ’cause, Clay, I think this is in many ways the perfect preview of what we should all expect tonight because masks all of a sudden are dropping all over the place. I no longer get the angry stares of “You’re an evil granny killer” when I walk into a coffee shop, whatever, without a mask on here in New York. All of a sudden — like magic — Jen Psaki wants to say this about the whole situation.

PSAKI: I would say the president is very powerful, but he couldn’t make us be in the green zone that we’re in right now in D.C. That’s why we are not, uh, required — not gonna be required — to wear masks starting tomorrow. So, uh, I would say that for him it had nothing to do with the timing around the State of the Union. Uh, he wanted to give the CDC the time to assess and make recommendations that would be clear to the American public about, uh, what their recommendations would be for mask wearing moving forward.

BUCK: Just real quick, Clay, I just would say, “If anyone believes that…” I don’t care what their part. “If anyone believes that, please don’t vote because you are not able to think through problems of politics and policy in a way that is even remotely sound.” It is the most obvious lie anyone could ever conjure, and she’s saying it all the time.

CLAY: It is. Think about this, Buck. Friday, the CDC comes out with new guidelines. Those new guidelines, by the way, are what allows there to be a green area, because, make no mistake, the overall rate of covid infectious right now is still wildly higher than it was for much of last year, and certainly wildly higher than it was for much of 2020 when everything shut down.

There are way more cases of covid right now than there were in March of 2020 when we did 15 days to stop the spread. Remember all that insanity the years ago? The reason why masks are now being removed is because the CDC redefined what the overall characteristics of high levels of spread and everything else were. So this is 100% a political decision.

This is about the political science, not the science at all. And what’s so frustrating to many of us is we’ve known this for so long that this was what was going to happen. And the fantastic that you got the CDC on Friday, Buck; you’ve got New York State and New York City over the weekend announcing their changes. You’ve got California, Washington, and Oregon announcing their changes, all of that happening before Joe Biden speaks tonight which Joe Biden’s pollsters came out, Buck, and said, “You’re getting hammered on this.

“We have to change the trajectory. You need to declare victory against covid and move on because that’s where the American public now is.” But the problem is that’s not good enough. And this is what we’re gonna continue to hammer off and on. You may get tired of us saying it for the next eight months. First of all, they’re going to bring back covid restrictions, like, even now they’re saying, “Well, we’re doing away with this now while we can.

“But we may bring them back: Masks on kids, social distancing, mask mandates, all of that.” So it’s not going away. It’s going away for some places for right now. That’s why the midterms have to be an evisceration, and I appreciated what you said, Buck, because I think it’s the message that Republicans should run with. Biden’s a disaster.

But the 2022 midterms, while being partly a referendum on Biden, are really a referendum on all senators and congressmen and your school board members and your local administrators and your local officials who did this to us, and were wrong about everything. There have to be consequences for all of these people being wrong about everything, and those consequences need to be a red wave the likes of which we have not seen. Everybody needs to be a single-issue voter, and it’s covid failure. That’s what you are casting your ballot about.

BUCK: You’re either voting for freedom or voting for tyranny this fall. Everyone should know this. That is actually a true way to put the choice that is before the American people in the midterm election. I know that it’s only March, but, friends, this is creep up on us fast. And the people who have been in charge who have been so wrong about everything, they’re not humbled. They’re not sorry. They’re not sitting around thinking, “How can we do better next time?”

Their only thought process really, in terms of what will guide their actions and how they will conduct themselves, whether it’s Biden, Democrats in the Senate, the House — all the blue check doctors that have been on CNN and MSNBC and writing for the New York Times, the Washington Post, constantly over two years — who were wrong about basically everything. None of them were saying to themselves, “Wow, maybe we should have listened to the Clay and Buck show,” which would have been a smart thing for them to come away with.

CLAY: (laughing) That’s how bad things were, Buck: If you and I had been in charge of American covid policy, the country would be in an infinitely better place.

BUCK: Economy would be better. Mental health across the country would be better.

CLAY: Kids would be better educated.

BUCK: Kids would be better off. Focus more on protecting and getting every single senior… Think about the messaging damage — and I know we have the whole other State of the Union. We’re gonna get into the economy and how they’re gonna try to spin inflation. This is gonna be really tough. This is gonna be the waiter who shows up and is charging you three times as much for your dinner as you thought it was gonna be and is explaining to you, “It’s not that expensive.

“It’s not that bad. This is fine! You loved those french fries.” Anyway, Clay, the reality of what we have seen here during covid is a collapse of the elite in real time, a collapse of their credibility, a collapse of — I would hope; this is the part of it that remains to be determined — their ability to control us going forward. And they’re gonna fight with everything they have against us. They’re not thinking to themselves, “Hold on a second.

“What is it that we can do here that will bring the country back together?” All that really matters is maintaining power, staying in charge, and being in a position to do all this stuff to us again. Yeah, if we had been in charge of the country it would have been better. Think of how much, if instead of trying to convince 5-year-olds… Oh, I saw you shared that data, Clay.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Vaccine boosters, for, what was it, 5- to 12-year-olds?

CLAY: Vaccines themselves for 5 to 11 years old have had virtually zero impact in limiting the kids getting infected. So everybody out there who rushed — and I said straight up, “People are gonna call you anti-vax.” I didn’t get my 5-year-old vaxxed, now 7-year-old, I didn’t get my 11-year-old vaxxed. I’m not going to do it, okay. Five- to 11-year-olds, zero positive result when it comes to rates of infection based on getting the covid shot.

And, by the way, that’s written in the New York Times. Even the New York Times is writing it for people out there who are like, “I don’t know that I trust that data.” If you ran out and got your 5- to 11-year-old vaxxed for covid, you got them zero positive impact effectively. They didn’t need the vax to start with, but the vax had no impact on whether they got covid.

BUCK: And yet we could just go back three or four months and people were in hysterics about waiting to get their children vaxxed. “Oh, my gosh!”

CLAY: They were crying and all the kids crying, like, “Oh, we could finally get the covid shot!” It’s child abuse that they had made their kids think they were afraid.

BUCK: Think of all the sociopaths that were taking photos of themselves with their writhing, crying children getting a shot in the arm. They were, the adults, were trying to show everybody how seriously they take the virus. These people are idiots. And it’s terrifying we have to share our country with so many millions of lib idiots. I’m just gonna be honest with you. I actually thought…

This has been a change in my perception of people around me. I thought even like the Democrats that I grew up around and within New York City would be far more rational during covid than they were. I know I wasn’t gonna get them to agree with me on a lot of other things, but I figured they could realize that building a little miniature restaurant outside of a restaurant wasn’t it actually doing anything from an epidemiological point of view.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: I figured they could understand that when every single study shows that there’s almost zero, globally, transmission of covid outside, riding around New York City on a bicycle with an N95 mask on is psychotic. I was wrong. I was wrong. They were crazier than I thought. And for people ask me, why am I so angry at Fauci…? I see this in my Twitter responses, which I try to not look at unless it’s someone on our team, one of our people.

But I see people will say, “Fauci did the best he can. You could have done any better.” Really? There was an alternate way to go. We talked about the alternate way to go. There was the Great Barrington Declaration. The fact that there were seniors still who didn’t get vaccinated — many of whom were distrustful of this whole situation because of how much was politicized — just goes to show you the messaging was a massive failure.

Imagine if we had all been united. We said all along, our parents… I love nobody in the world more than I love my parents. You feel the same way. You love your immediate family members more than anything else. My parents were vaccinated and boosted. You said it too. Imagine if we could have been united as a country on, “Look, guys, this really is a disease that threatens those 65 and up.

“We really know this. We all agree on this. Let’s make sure all of them know it’s really in their interest, not mandating it but really in their interests to get the shot.” It’s a lot harder to make that case when Fauci is running around saying, “I think your 5-year-old is gonna need an eight-dose regimen, maybe 12 doses.” You know, people understandably see that and say, “These people are lunatics.”

CLAY: And when college kids are protesting because they’re not having to wear masks, I mean, the entirety — and this is a good debate question that we should have I think going to find, now that every mask mandate’s being basically ended and the vax mandates are being ended, when in the world are they gonna take it off for airplanes, right? Because that’s the last place — and as the Southwest Airlines and the American Airlines CEO said under oath, actually.

Based on the recirculated air, the safest place, probably, that you could be is on an airplane when it comes to whether or not covid is spreading there. But this idea that we have to continue this the cosmetic theater of sitting around and pulling down your mask while you take a drink and then putting it back up and wearing it informant of the airports in general, it’s madness. It’s absolute madness.

BUCK: Clay, you and I understand this, and our people, our extend family — which is everyone listening to this across the country — they understand this too. This isn’t over when they stop with these mandates. It’s over when they admit the mandates were wrong.

CLAY: And had no impact. Which is really why we played that Saturday Night Live skit, because this is where we say, “Team Rationality is gaining members every single day.” It’s time some people a long time to come on board, but when Saturday Night Live is doing that skit… If you didn’t see it, you can go see it on Twitter. We played it for you; I think it’s up at ClayAndBuck.com. When they are making fun of the ridiculousness of all these restrictions, they’re basically acknowledging that they had no impact. That’s what they’re doing. They’re not saying it directly, but that’s basically what their acknowledging.

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