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Another Lie: Biden Falsely Claims He Cut the Deficit

3 Mar 2022

BUCK: We started off the show talking about the lie from Joe Biden when he falsely said that five cops died, but also arguing that Putin’s actions were inspired by January 6th. Well, now he’s also saying no one has ever lowered federal deficit as much as he has. But remember, this is totally false because Bill Clinton — remember balance the budget — also ran budget surpluses. Let’s listen to cut 17.

BIDEN: There’s a lot more to my plan to lower costs and lower — and lower the deficit. By the way, we’re gonna lower the deficit by a trillion dollars this year. These guys talk about how they always worried about our spend… We’re lowering the deficit. No one’s ever done that!

CLAY: Yeah, Bill Clinton balanced the budget. Buck, you remember, and it used to be — I don’t know if it still exists — they had the billboard with the national debt in New York City that was constantly going up to show you what your share of the national debt was. Clinton balanced the budget, but this is also the budget artifice because the budget got blown up by the covid spending, which is not actually in any way representative.

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Man Declares He’ll Compete in Olympics as a Woman, Left Cheers

3 Mar 2022

CLAY: Buck, this is a crazy story that I think is going to continue to get crazier, and it threatens the very foundation of women’s athletics, and it also points to the cultural fault line, I would say, that exists right now where so many people are afraid to say basic, 100% certain truths, which are these: Men compete against men and women compete against women in all athletics.

The NCAA swimming championships are going to begin in less than two weeks, and there is a big Sports Illustrated exclusive with the transgender swimmer at the University of Pennsylvania, who is poised to potentially, despite the fact that this swimmer swam with the men for three years before deciding to become a “woman,” has been setting all sorts of — and I’m using quotation marks here — “women’s swimming records” all over NCAA sports this spring and, well, I guess this winter.

And this new swimming competition, now this women’s swimmer who calls herself Lia Thomas, is going to compete, potentially set all-time records at Georgia Tech down in the Atlanta area for the NCAA women’s swimming championships, and also is now saying that she/he/whatever phrase you want to use to describe this swimmer, wants to be on the women’s swimming team in the Olympics in 2024.

So, if you think it’s already a crazy story that a man can swim for three years as a man in men’s swimming and then change teams and become a woman and become the greatest women’s swimmer potentially in the history of college athletics, that now this swimmer wants to become a member of the women’s swim team. Now, let me just give you this as… Let’s take it outside of the world of men’s and women’s athletics.

Every single boxer out there, anyone who’s ever been a fan of boxing, knows that there’s heavyweight boxers, Buck., Big, strong dudes. Six foot or more. You weigh over 220 pounds. The biggest guys out there do not fight against the smallest guys. If you look at Little League… I coach Little League baseball. I coach Little League basketball. I don’t get to bring in a 17-year-old to play in my 11-year-old basketball league or my 11-year-old baseball league. Guy would be a lot better ’cause he’s a full-grown man.

This is a direct attack on women’s athletics. It would, in theory, create the end of women’s athletics because as soon as you allow men who are bigger, stronger, and faster than women who life as women and compete against them and beat them, it is an absolute destruction. And we’re not getting — and this has got me so fired up, Buck — all these people out there who claim to be big feminists, all these people who claim to care so much about Title IX and women’s equality? They’re all silent, and they’re complicit in this craziness.

BUCK: This was all predictable, and what was fascinating was as it’s played out I’d say over the last 10 years in particular the trans agenda as it relates to sports issues, we were always told in the early days — I’m sure you’ll remember this — “Oh, that’s not going to happen!”

CLAY: That’s exactly what we were told.

BUCK: “No one’s saying that. Just be polite. Just be nice. This is about being nice! This is about being decent to people. Use their preferred pronouns. Agree with them. Just do this because you’re being a nice person.” I really hate — and this is used often against people on the right in this country, so I think that… I know people would argue for this. They’d say, “Well, Trump might have changed that in some way.”

But I think conservatives have a culture of politeness and consideration. I think that. I just believe that. Maybe people could argue with me. And this is now about trying to take what started out as courtesy, using someone’s preferred pronouns and just deny objective reality. That’s what has… That’s the transition, if you will, that we have been witness to here, and there’s a lot of…

The same way that they were making arguments, Clay, about masks, “Oh, come on. It’ll make people feel better. You know, it’s fine,” and ignoring the downside, let’s just talk about that for a second here because all you ever hear from the media, “This is about someone’s affirmation, and this is about who they are as a person,” and all this sort of stuff.

CLAY: Which is the way the entire Sports Illustrated article is written — not surprisingly — as if this person is a hero.

BUCK: What about the Olympic hopeful on the U.S. team or any team for that matter who has lived a third of her life in the swimming pool to be at the absolute top of that sport who will possibly now go to the Olympics and lose out on a gold medal, lose out on any medal, lose out on a spot on the team entirely?

What about the lack of kindness and courtesy for that person? This is just like we’re talking about, “Oh, let the transgender youth in high school use the girls locker room! It will make them feel better.” Uh, well, what about the 12-year-old girl that now has to get dressed next to a —

CLAY: Biological male.

BUCK: — “biological male,” also known as a male? This is why you started out with just use the preferred pronoun. Just be nice to people. Look, we all wanna be nice, we want to treat everybody well but at some point you can’t live by lies, and Lia Thomas is living by a lie here. Lia. You can change your name, fine. Call this person Lia. But even in all the news coverage of it, it’s always a situation where Lia Thomas is referred to as a “she.”

Lia Thomas is not a “she,” and once you start with the basic, “I’m gonna make this concession that gender cannot be changed,” that’s not reality. It’s not scientific reality. But also, just on the losses that will occur because of this to people, Lia Thomas is not the last person who’s gonads this. And think of all the people along the way who feel like not only they’re missing out on medals and spots on teams, Clay, but at some level their sport is being made a mockery of now. This is absurd. Women’s swimming is being made a mockery of by the reality of not actually segregating anymore by gender. This is absurd.

CLAY: Well, what’s also wild about this, Buck, is we talked so much about improper benefits in the world of athletics. And so take it outside again of transgenderism. And if you are taking steroids, for instance — we’re living down in Houston where Roger Clemens was, right, for a large part of his career, if I remember correctly. If you’re able to bigger, stronger, and faster through using drugs, you weren’t allowed to compete.

They test you for the Olympics, right, to see whether or not you’re using prohibited substances. How in the world is changing your gender not considered to be a prohibited substance? Just follow me on this logic. If you can get… Barry Bonds. Let’s use Barry Bonds as an example. Most people know him. Great player, decides that he’s going to use steroids, becomes the home run king of Major League Baseball, gets caught using steroids.

Congress investigates what is going on with steroids in baseball. You can argue whether or not Congress should get involved. But the idea was the inherent fair play of athletics demanded that Congress investigate and also because we didn’t want to encourage 15-year-olds, 16-year-olds out there to shoot themselves up with drugs. Back in the day, the East German women dominated in the Olympics because they were using steroids.

Same thing happened with Russians, right? They were doping. They were using all sorts of illegal substances. How is that impermissible, but you are going to say a man can decide to turn himself into a woman by using drugs, and then that man can dominate women’s athletics, and that’s considered to be okay? And I’ll give you an example what you were just hinting at, Buck.

My guys did a great job, and girls, covering this at OutKick and still are, because most people won’t touch it in the world of sports. One of the girls on the Penn swimming team who didn’t want her name to be used said that when did she grows up and gets married and has her own kids, she hopes that she has boys because if she has girls, her fear is transgender men who have decided to become women are going to end women’s athletics.

She said what you pointed out. Right now, it’s one person who is dominating in women’s sports. But what happens when there’s 15 people dominating women’s sports? What happens when the sprinting at the Olympics is all dudes who have decided to be girls?

BUCK: And who thinks that there’s not going to be an increase in this, once you… We’re talking about the Olympics. You’re a college swimmer, you obviously don’t make a dime, and swimming is not, in general, a big-money draw for anybody until you’re talking about being a gold medalist. The gold medalist… They’ve done analysis to show it’s worth seven figures. It’s worth a few million dollars.

CLAY: Especially in a sport like swimming where people pay attention at the Olympics.

BUCK: Yeah, there’s actual endorsement value to that. Well, now you get to be a hero to those who are on the ideological left for doing this, because remember they don’t think this is bad. The true, hard-core left in this country thinks that this is to be celebrated — and if you don’t celebrate it, you’re a bigot. That’s the official party line. Ask AOC. Ask anybody who’s a Democrat on the left who is prominent in the movement, and they’ll say, “This is great! I celebrate this. Lia Thomas is a hero, a civil rights hero.” They’re completely insane.

CLAY: She called herself, reportedly, the Jackie Robinson of women’s swimming.

BUCK: That is so offensive.

CLAY: It seems there’s been a dispute about whether that quote was out there but that report has been out there that one of her teammates said that she is referring to herself as the Jackie Robinson of women’s swimming.

BUCK: Unbelievable. And yet here we are. Once you have people that are gonna become millionaires, now your choice is become transgender, become a multimillionaire and a hero to the left, or —

CLAY: An okay male swimmer.

BUCK: — be an obscure okay male swimmer. What’s the choice gonna be for a lot of people? I think we all… By the way, this is going to be increasingly normalized, too, that’s the whole point. So this won’t even be a thing that gets a lot of attention. The true goal of the movement here is essentially you can’t make any gender distinction when it comes to sports competition, which, can we all just remind ourselves. We all know this is crazy, right? Everyone listening this knows it’s crazy. Democrat Party, Nancy Pelosi will not denounce it. Joe Biden will not denounce it. Top to bottom they’ll go along with it.

CLAY: No woman, Buck, would ever win an Olympic medal again if we only had a unisex sport, right? Every sprinter… Here’s a great example. We’re down in Texas right now. Every single high school boy who set a Texas State sprinting championship record was faster than the fastest woman who’s ever existed in the most recent state competition. It’s a big difference. A women would never win. This is the destruction of women’s athletics if it continues to grow, which it will.

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Steve Mnuchin: Sanction Russian Energy

3 Mar 2022

BUCK: What should be done about the situation in Ukraine from a U.S. perspective, from the West, from NATO allies, from the world perspective, actually? Well, we have former Treasury secretary for Trump, Steven Mnuchin, was on CNBC saying we actually should sanction Russian energy. Play clip 7, please.

MNUCHIN: I would immediately cease any payments in the energy markets. The fact that money is still going to Russia, though, that is something I would stop immediately, and I would sanction more people that are around Putin. One of the most important issues for national security is that the U.S. is energy independent. Not minimize the environmental issues, but now is the time to reconsider things like pipelines, things like LNG, which are a much cleaner form of energy.

BUCK: Clay, this is apparent now: The Biden administration is hostile toward fossil fuels in a whole variety of ways. But beyond that, they’re saying they will not… So, we get all these lectures about how democracy in Ukraine is a critical global interest and all this stuff, which, okay. Yes, we want the Ukrainians to defeat the Russians and have control of their country for sure. But we’re also under an administration that says all that and then says, well, “We’re not gonna sanction their energy ’cause it’s gonna be too pricey.”

CLAY: That’s exactly right, and ultimately this is a political calculation because right now we’ve got 7.5% inflation, Buck, and we know that the price of oil is going to go up, a gallon of gas over $5 a gallon. I believe now in the San Francisco area, the first community to go over $5 a gallon, if I’m not mistaken. And if this battle is going to continue and we’re going to stop buying for 600,000 barrels of oil, which is what Marco Rubio tweeted this morning we’re doing on a day-to-day basis, then there’s going to be a cost.

And that cost is going to be paid at the pump as the price of oil is now over $110, $114, may go to an all-time high, which would drive inflation even higher, and one of… Buck, you know this. One of the number-one indicators for how you’re going to do in a midterm or in any election, the price of gas may be the most important.

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Could Pursuing War Crimes Deter Putin and His Cronies?

3 Mar 2022

CLAY: I had an interesting conversation yesterday. My wife is in law school. She is finishing her law degree and one of her professors is at Vanderbilt University, Vanderbilt University Law School, which is also where I went. He has done an interesting study. He did a lot of work in international affairs back when he was in the military, and he’s done a lot of work with war crimes. He’s named Michael Newton.

He’s on the faculty at Vanderbilt, and she brought me an editorial that he has written arguing that what the United States should do from now is — obviously, we’re not gonna commit resources in terms of putting actual soldiers on the ground. And it’s not smart to get involved, I don’t believe, in this idea of whether or not you’re patrolling the skies, whether you’re gonna try to restrict the flow of Russian air superiority.

What he says is something where I think the conversation is going to get evolved, and that is Vladimir Putin is clearly, in this expert on international war crimes — again, Michael Newton and there are many other people making the argument alongside of him — that this is clearly war crimes. And what the United States should do is Joe Biden should allow all of the people who are international war crimes experts to officially begin war crime investigations.

Now, I want to play you this audio ’cause I think it’s a really interesting argument that the best way that America could put more pressure onto Vladimir Putin now is by investigating war crimes because it seems quite clear that those are going on. Now, Joe Biden was actually asked about this yesterday, and I want to play cut 2 because he won’t say right now Putin is committing war crimes, even though it seems quite clear he is. Listen to this.

REPORTER: Russia is committing war crimes in Ukraine.

BIDEN: We’re following it very closely. It’s too early to say that.

CLAY: “Too early to say that.” Well, President Zelensky says this is clearly genocide. He’s on the ground right there in Ukraine. Play cut 3. Listen to this.

ZELENSKY: (via translator) This is genocide and Nazism, and I am ashamed that we are in the twenty-first century, in 2022, and we are seeing acts where people are told, “Forget dire predictions of the end of the world. This is the end of the world.” If there are such actions, this world is at an end for people like that. The issue is that we are the border, the fence between them and civilization.

CLAY: All right. And then in America there are some politicians who are now picking up this argument, including Ukrainian-born congresswoman from Indiana, Victoria Spartz, who says this is genocide, this is clearly a war crime. Listen to what she said.

VOICE: This question and how it should be answered about Vladimir Putin and whether he’s a war criminal.

SPARTZ: Hopefully, you know, we can have more pressure so things happen because people need to have, you know, some stability for the genocide, for killing people, for war crimes. It’s not a war. It’s killing, extermination of people.

CLAY: All right. Your thoughts on this argument, Buck.

BUCK: First of all, Russia is no longer a signatory to the International Criminal Court. They pulled out in 2016 after the annexation of Crimea. Now, does that really matter? No, because you can still bring charges technically in the International Criminal Court against somebody for war crimes even if they’re not a signatory, but it does complicate matters a little bit. You’d also have to have a state willing to arrest Vladimir Putin, and Putin is not leaving.

Putin is not touching down anywhere, anytime soon where you have anybody willing to recognize that jurisdiction. You would have Vladimir Putin also arguing that coalition, U.S. actions… I’m saying what he would argue. I’m not saying it’s true. But he would argue the coalition U.S. actions in Iraq and Afghanistan in different contexts also would constitute war crimes, right?

So it’s not gonna stop the conflict now. This is more of a when the conflict is no longer ongoing, would you have a conversation about this? There’s no way you’re gonna be able to get Vladimir Putin when he still wants to have the Russian war machine engaged in this invasion of Ukraine, no one’s taking him down with a legal challenge, right? So.

CLAY: Do you think it makes people around him nervous? ‘Cause Putin may feel like, “I’m protected. I’m above the law.” I think it’s quite clear that Putin himself would say that. The argument I think that is interesting is, are there people that don’t have Putin’s protections that are also closely allied enough with the decisions that are being made in Russia that it might give them pause and/or make them nervous and start to unwind a bit the legitimacy of Putin’s range?

BUCK: Yes, but you also have to remember that even billionaire oligarchs in Putin’s orbit will be fed to the tigers sometimes. I mean, he doesn’t really care, right? So if you’re not getting at Putin, who can you get around him that would actually put enough pressure on him to make him changing his decision-making here? And also, I think U.S. perception of who and to what degree of support — or who supports Putin and to what degree inside of Russia.

We just don’t really know. We just don’t really have a good sense of that. I mean, the intelligence community, journalism, people that are looking at this issue I think are having to engage in a lot of guesswork over who would actually get this guy to stop what he’s doing right now. And I think there’s a greater recognition today certainly as you have the loss of the first city, although there’s some debate, there’s some conflicting reports.

But you have Kherson on the Black Sea, which has fallen, Mariupol, which is on the Sea of Azov; so these are the southern part of Ukraine that is looking like it’s about to fall. You’ve got Kharkiv still getting shelled. You’ve got Kiev, the capital, on the way to getting encircled. The Russian war machine is showing no signs of slowing down. And just because they didn’t get a blitzkrieg or a lightning-fast victory. If you think about it in chess there are some moves you can make that will end the chess match…

I forget, there’s terms for all this. But in less than five or — let me be more specific — 10 moves, you can actually end a chess match. Putin may have tried that but that doesn’t mean that he’s not gonna keep going even if that initial salvo, so to speak, failed. So I think that this is going to get… Clay, it’s gonna get a lot worse. I think that we’re very few from seeing Russia feel like and Putin feel like there’s in touch pressure being brought against him that he would change this.

Once he realities the reality… One of the problems we have here is you can’t North Korea-ize Russia. Never gonna happen, right? So you have a lot of people with tremendous influence and assets globally in Russia, talking about the oligarchs, who, when this is done, when the ceasefire happens or whenever this conflict comes to a terminus — and hopefully it’s days, I think it will be months, but whenever this actually happens — you’re gonna have to deal with bringing Russia back into the fold.

There is no future which — and Putin knows that. He knows people want the gas to flow. He knows there’s a lot of ways to continue on with this. So that makes everything more challenging. All the pressure we bring to bear, Clay, feels, I think, from the Russian perspective, Putin perspective as though it’s temporary, and it’s a set up that way.

CLAY: I think it’s an interesting question, how long are Americans gonna care? And that may be the balancing act that Vladimir Putin in his mind is trying to consider, right? It’s very easy to be pro-Zelensky and pro-Ukraine when the story is fresh and it’s new and we’re the first seven days, first 10 days in. But to your point if this drags into, let’s say, it’s June. Let’s say it’s July. Is American news still going to be leading with the latest news from Ukraine?

Because I think it’s an interesting dynamic because the longer Ukraine holds on, the more it challenges Putin but also the more difficult it becomes, I think, for American interests to remain. Does that make sense? How long is the lead story in every newscast going to be the minute-by-minute updates of what’s going on in Ukraine?

BUCK: There were over a half a million people — and I should see what the most recent estimates are — who died in the Syrian civil war. That went on for years. There was no U.S. military engagement on the ground. Obviously, no nuclear powers involved there. Well, I shouldn’t say that. Russia became involved, but I mean the warring factions inside of Syria were on a very different scale than the Russian war machine. By the way, that was another place where Russia essentially got its way through the application of force.

You see the last 10 years or so in Georgia, Russia got what it wanted. Crimea and eastern Ukraine, got what it wanted. Syria propped up the Assad regime, got what it wanted. A lot of help from the Iranians, too. So there hasn’t actually been a real slapdown, if you will, of Russia’s imperial ambitions. If anything, it’s been really building to this point. I think people have been ignoring it.

So will Americans continue to care? Yeah, I mean, it’s… I keep telling everybody this because I just think you need to go psychologically be prepared for this, Clay, everyone needs to be prepared for this to get a whole lot more horrific and ugly ’cause that’s the trajectory of these conflicts when they go on like this. The first week is never the worst week.

CLAY: And extend for months, potentially, in terms of the way that you’re balancing out. I think there’s this idea among many people who are following this story that on any given day there may be a resolution to this story, and that’s unlikely. This is much more likely to be a marathon than it is a sprint the way that it’s being set out right now.

BUCK: There’s also a cognitive dissonance. We were talking to Larry Kudlow about this before, and they haven’t put on the full scope of sanctions on the energy market because it would be too economically painful. So on the one hand you have a lot of people going on TV, you have the analyst class, you have Democrats and a lot of Republicans who are essentially saying, “We will do anything to stand for democracy in Ukraine,” not troops, but also not to make energy too expensive.

You can see there is a price that has already been put on this. I agree with the red line about troops and about us fighting the Russians. It is interesting, though, that the people that are the loudest sort of chest thumpers, if you will, about how “our principles are at risk in Ukraine,” unless the oil prices get too high, in which case let’s not —

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: That is reality, folks. That is going on right now. So I think everyone needs to remember that as we continue to follow this.

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Normalcy Replaces Insanity: NFL Drops All Covid Protocols

3 Mar 2022

CLAY: Just in the last 30 minutes or so, the NFL has officially announced they are done with all covid protocols. They’re no longer going to be testing, they’re no longer going to be mandating vaccines or holding people out for 10 days if they happen to test positive. The Players Association and the teams are saying, “We’re over it.” Now, you kinda got a little preview that they had agreed to this, Buck, because nobody tested positive once the playoffs started in the NFL.

You had guys sitting out like crazy near the tail end of the regular season, and then they basically said, “Hey, we’re gonna end this.” They didn’t announce it, but now they are officially announcing. Now, some people may say, “Well, why does this matter?” The NFL is such a leviathan on the American cultural landscape that what they are doing will translate into many different high schools, into many different Little Leagues. And every sports league, I think, will end up following them and effectively saying, after two years of insanity, “We’re back to 100% normalcy.”

BUCK: What are the chances, though, that there’s a rebound in all of this when the next season comes along again, and they’ll do some restricted version of restrictions or a lessened version? This is the big thing. Last night… You flew today. I flew last night.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: I did have a mask below my nose pretty much.

CLAY: Anybody say anything?

BUCK: No one said a word. I walked through the airport mask down below my mouth but, like, the mask on the whole time. Nobody said a word. I think the mask shamers know they’d really have their hands full with, “Why are you killing grandma? Why are you breathing normally here?” when you can only breathe normally everywhere else in the country. But that said, it’s because we’re also at the down slope of the covid season. Do you think the NFL is done forever or they’re done for now?

CLAY: I think they’re done forever because I think the players are really over it now. They recognized that, Buck, they’re under far more danger getting whipped, knocked out, beaten down all over the field. The game of football is far more dangerous to a 25-year-old than covid is, and I think they finally all recognize this, and I think every sports league is gonna follow the NFL. So I think this is going to be a major cultural moment in terms of letting people get back to normalcy. Remember, there’s still some kids playing basketball with masks on in some states, which is so stupid, it makes my head hurt.

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3 Mar 2022

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Rep. Boebert on Why She Called Out Biden on Afghanistan

2 Mar 2022

CLAY: We are joined now, I believe, by Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, who is in the firing line in the wake of the State of the Union address. Now, I don’t know if you saw this, but Jen Psaki has come on and said in response to a question about why they didn’t mention January 6th, that they didn’t have time to fit everything into the State of the Union address.

And, Congresswoman, you were reacting because, as Joe Biden is speaking, he is not referencing the 13 different soldiers that we lost in Afghanistan, and you yelled out to him. What has the reaction been since you did that? And what do you think of Joe Biden not having the time to actually address that? We now have the cut, for people who might not have heard it last night. Here’s what it sounded like.

BIDEN: A cancer that would put them in a flag-draped coffin. I know.

REP. BOEBERT: You put them in there!

BIDEN: One of those — one of those soldiers was my son, Major Beau Biden.

CLAY: Congresswoman, what’s been the reaction again and what do you think about Biden not having the time to mention the 13 Afghan — soldiers we lost in Afghanistan?

REP. BOEBERT: So when I heard Joe Biden trying to win political points by talking about troops that were being buried in flag-draped coffins, my mind went straight to the 13 servicemen and women that died in Afghanistan. The mother of one of those soldiers lives in my district and she told me that Joe Biden killed her son. You know, last night Joe Biden certainly had time to invite a Big Tech CEO to the State of the Union but couldn’t bother to recognize any of the families whose loved ones were lost in Afghanistan.

I think the reaction that we are getting from me saying, “You put them in there,” 13 of them in those flag-draped coffins. We’re getting a lot of people saying, “Thank you.” Because these 13 service members would not have been mentioned, would not have been brought up had that reaction not taken place last night. It’s not something that I had planned, but also, Buck, the left is really upset at me for interrupting Joe Biden’s speech.

But I would like them to just sit back and think how upsetting it is for the families whose lives are completely interrupted by Joe Biden’s failure. And, you know, we understand that time is very valuable for Joe. There’s only so many hours that he’s awake during the day. It takes him away from ice cream and apple sauce and dwelling in the basement or fake White House set, whatever it is that he does. But he showed us that he did not have time for those 13 soldiers way before last night’s State of the Union. Remember at that service for the fallen soldiers, he was checking his watch then. He showed America then he did not have time for them.

BUCK: Media who are scolding you on a decorum level here: I mean, as soon as I saw that, there’s Tapper over at CNN. He’s always the chief hall monitor for all things that Republicans say that he doesn’t like. But I remember Nancy Pelosi ripping up a State of the Union address.

REP. BOEBERT: Mmm-hmm.

BUCK: I remember other times where people have acted out and spoken out during it. What do you want to say to people who are yelling at you, essentially, that this was a breach of decorum?

REP. BOEBERT: I really don’t give a darn about a breach of decorum when our 13 service members were completely ignored by the man responsible for their deaths. And who is CNN to talk about decorum? We’ve all seen what takes place on their Zoom videos and the disgusting things that come out of CNN. And of course, Nancy Pelosi shredding President Trump’s State of the Union speech like she’s something. I don’t give a darn about decorum.

The People’s House has been completely destroyed this past year. There was fencing all around the Capitol again last night because this is tremendous symbolism of how the people are not in control of what happens here any longer. This is Pelosi’s House, and we are under one-party Democrat rule, and what they say goes, and there’s no policy that we could point to that is benefiting any American right now that’s coming from the Democrats.

Last night at the State of the Union members of Congress were required to have PCR testing to test for covid-19, to have a special golden ticket to enter the House chambers — and on that ticket, it would say whether the members of Congress were seated on the House floor or in the gallery. Members were not allowed to have an invited guest, as they usually are, and we were supposed to socially distance in our assigned seating.

How crappy and un-American is that? Buck, I’ll tell you right now, I did not get tested. I did not have a golden ticket. I did not have an assigned seat, and I sat wherever the heck I wanted to last night. And I was in my workplace, the House Chamber, and I was going to be there unrestrained.

CLAY: Congresswoman, what do you think about the fact that suddenly the mask mandate was gone just in time for the State of the Union, and Joe Biden — who they’ve kept in a mask for two straight yours — suddenly out of his mask walking down, shaking hands, engaging in some sort of odd head butt with a couple of different people. How hypocritical did it feel to suddenly have the mask mandate gone just in time for Joe Biden’s address?

REP. BOEBERT: Well, I’m curious if they actually did that because they know that a lot of our masks say things like — I don’t know — “Let’s go, Brandon.” And maybe they didn’t want that displayed there in the House Chambers. But it is a State of the Union miracle that suddenly we don’t need masks in the House Chamber. Now, the Senate, they have never had a mask requirement.

And there aren’t any mask requirements outside of the House Chamber that have any repercussion if you break them. So members of Congress were fined up to $2500. I’ve been fined a couple times for violating the mask rule in the House Chamber. But I told Nancy Pelosi to kiss my mask a long time ago, so I haven’t been playing that game. It’s been political theater from the start because members of Congress were only fined where the C-SPAN cameras were rolling.

But, Buck, we saw just the day before the State of the Union on Monday, we saw Joe Biden at the White House walking through an empty field with a mask on while he was completely alone, and then last night slobbering all over Democrats. I even posted a video saying, “Hey, look at this! We no longer have to socially distance because science,” and that’s the game that Americans are so sick and tired of. They bound our children, they muzzle our children in schools with these masks, and they do whatever the heck they want, and we tired of it.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Congresswoman Boebert of Colorado, and Congresswoman, I just want to ask before we let you go: Are you and your Republican colleagues in the House as fired up as can be after what felt like a very weak speech from Joe Biden, and do you have a 40- or 50-seat swing toward the Republicans in mind going into this? Along with your own reelection, of course.

REP. BOEBERT: Look, I’d love the red wave — and if we keep showing the American people that we will take a stand and we will do what we promised to do, then we absolutely will take back the House in 2022 where we can start to have real investigations into the origin of covid, into the NIH, the WHO, into Fauci, our elections in 2020, and so much more, including the border and Afghanistan. And even energy. I serve on the National Resources Committee.

I’d love to have investigations into our energy policies here in America and hold people accountable. But here’s the thing, Buck. We need to elect conservatives. We need to elect principled conservatives whose R behind their names does not stand for “Rollover.” Unfortunately, I see a lot of those in Congress now, and we need to make sure that we’re not bringing in more of those. So 40-, 50-seat swing? Sure, maybe. But honestly I would love a smaller majority so every vote actually counts and they have to consider the consequences of every single vote rather than just saying, “Ah, we got a big majority.” It doesn’t really matter.”

CLAY: Congresswoman, appreciate the time. We’ll talk to you again soon.

REP. BOEBERT: Thanks so much.

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CLAY: To me, two things stood out the most. One, after two years of essentially not allowing anyone to appear anywhere in Washington, D.C., if you are a Democrat without wearing a mask, masks were gone. We saw Joe Biden striding slowly across the White House lawn on Monday in his ridiculous oversized black facemask, and, by Tuesday, he is walking down the center of the House of Representatives aisle shaking hands.

Awkwardly even head-butting — if you guys haven’t seen that video — as if covid had never existed. Nancy Pelosi awkwardly behind him sort of gyrating in weird directions, looking super strange, also not wearing a mask. Joe Biden can’t tell the difference between reading “Ukraine” and reading “Iran” on his teleprompter. Strange ending of “Go get ’em!” But the maskless thing stood out.

And then, Buck, what you and I have both described as the single dumbest political argument of the twenty-first century: Defunding the police. Biden now is going to ride into the future claiming essentially that defund the police never existed. Listen to how aggressively he not only flips the script. He says defund the police is out, and it’s time to fund the police — and he sounds a lot like Clay Travis and Buck Sexton when he says it. Listen to cut 8.

BIDEN: We should all agree, the answer is not to defund the police! It’s to fund the police. Fund them! Fund them! Fund them with resources and training. Resources and training they need to protect our communities. I ask Democrats and Republicans alike to pass my budget to keep our neighborhoods safe.

CLAY: Okay, and I think we have a cut here of just to reinforce for all of you, that’s the exact opposite of what Democrats have argued for two years. Ever since George Floyd, they’ve argued that we do need to in fact defund the police. I did we have a cut. They did a great job immediately getting this out last night. You can go listen to it, but I think it’s important to not allow Democrats to now try — in the wake of this massive increase in murders, massive increase in violent crime — to argue that they have been the party of wanting to fund the police. Listen to this cut of all the Democrats saying, “No, we need to defund the police.”

BUCK: Pretty sure there’s a lot of Democrats there, Clay, saying defund the police. Here’s what Biden shouldn’t be allowed to get away with. While all that was being said, where were the Democrats who were pointing out the obvious which is that was just sheer madness? We didn’t need to go through what we’ve seen with the huge spike in crime across the country to know what the results would be. This is like saying, “I could have stopped them before they lit the match and threw the kerosene-soaked rag in the house, but I wanted to see what would happen first.”

We all knew exactly what was going to happen, and we saw buildings burn down. We saw police being assaulted and attacked. Democrats went along with this because Democrats are the party of the mob, and it was useful in the 2020 election year. Remember, everybody was scared, right? They were scared about covid, and then they were scared about the riots. We had an election. They often talk about the integrity of our democracy, the sanctity of our democracy.

We had the 2020 election where business owners across America in major cities had to board up their businesses because they were afraid the Democrat might lose. We all know that’s what that was about. It’s why there weren’t riots, and then they want to lecture all of us about accepting election results. And then just on the covid thing, which I know you got into a second ago, Clay, defund?

We were right, they were wrong, and everyone who said defund wasn’t crazy was either crazy themselves or lying to you and pandering. So much pandering from Pelosi and the rest. And then on the covid issue, I almost couldn’t believe it. So they’re unmasked, but they’re sitting socially distanced from each other. This is pure religious expression, now. This is purely Fauciism shown to everybody, “I’m a good person!” Social distancing, may I remind everybody, is a totally made-up, absurd idea in the first place. Real social distancing is stay away from sick people. Stay six feet apart from people on the elevator, in line? (laughing)

CLAY: In your little spots. So stupid. Sit in your circle.

BUCK: People were being told to social distance — I’ll never forget this — in line outside for the grocery store in the winter of 2020, and I was among them. And then we went indoors, and we were all shoulder to shoulder, fighting over the last dried pasta and canned soup because we were all gonna have the collapse of civilization. Fauci says so. It was absurd. They’re socially distanced. That’s an idiotic term. It’s a made-up term. It doesn’t even make any sense.

They did these things because they, one, do not accept that they were wrong, and two, they made it clear last night — I mean, Biden actually said as much — that they’re not done. When he says, “This is endemic,” Clay, they’re preparing for Covid 3.0 or whatever, 4.0. The next time around, the next major wave, they’re gonna do all this crazy crap again. That was clear from the State of Union last night. That’s really one of the only things that was clear, that and Biden going (shout-muttering) a lot of Biden babbling.

CLAY: He was a mess, and also he spent a lot of his time, Buck, arguing in favor of Build Back Better, and then did you see like five minutes after the State of the Union somebody found Joe Manchin and Joe Manchin was like, yeah, Build Back Better is dead. So the State of the Union, you get a relatively limited amount of time to talk to that many Americans, and Biden spent a huge portion of his State of the Union on Build Back Better, which is dead.

You start to think about the timing — and I don’t know about you, but we’ve got the Supreme Court justice, which is probably gonna take a month or so to get that all the way through. That’s gonna take us well into April. As we get into April, do we really think that the Democrats are going to pass something substantial in terms of a tax increase a couple of months before the midterm elections? That seems highly unlikely to me. It feels to me as if Biden’s agenda is effectively over, and now we wait and see what happens in Ukraine.

We feel very good about Republicans taking back the House, maybe also the Senate. Either way, that makes it virtually impossible for anything to get passed for two years. So I just… I look at Biden, and I think to myself, “He looks so awful, I mean, so awful.” There’s very limited faith that I have that he can last physically three more years. And I don’t know that the country can make this through three more years of him, but I don’t know what other options we have. And it feels as if, basically, he’s done, like there’s nothing more that he’s going to be able to accomplish as president at this point.

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