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Guest on The View Brands Our Constitution “Trash”

4 Mar 2022

CLAY: Not content with putting out the consistently dumbest programming in all of television featuring among the dumbest cast of characters in television history, The View had a guest on, Elie Mystal, who said: You know what? We need to go ahead and do away with the entire Constitution. (summarized)

This is left-wing garbage lunacy. But I’m telling you there are lots of people who believe this. Listen.

BUCK: “Kind of trash”, Clay. This guy is a correspondent for law and justice issues at The Nation, which is a kind of trash.

CLAY: A kind of trash, ironically enough.

BUCK: We did not plan that, but yes. That is true. It is a garbage website with garbage thinking and writing. But I think it’s interesting that finally… A lot of people on the left actually do believe this, and what’s fascinating is that you’d have to wonder, where is the line drawn here? What brilliance from our past that stretches back…?

If you were to separate the last 10 years from all of human history, think of all the great advancements, the great literature, scientific discovery, creation of nation states, whatever, that involve people that were insufficiently friendly to the trans agenda. So I suppose that all of it —

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: — all of it must be discounted and Shakespeare was not trans friendly enough; therefore, all of his writing is trash. That’s the near theory the left has.

CLAY: Oh, there’s no doubt, and it’s almost to the point now where if you believe Western civilization is a good thing, you’re not even allowed to utter it out loud, certainly if you work at a campus, if you’re a professor. But look, this is one of the fringe arguments that is out there in the legal community. And for people who went to law school, there is, you know, sort of a constitutional theory course that you might have at some point where radical anti-American history zealots will say:

“We need to destroy the entire existence of the Constitution because it was written by people who allowed slavery to exist, and the original sin of American life requires that there be no founding documents that we can rely upon,” and there are people… This guy’s opinion is not exactly rare. There are a lot of people who agree with him.

BUCK: Yeah. It’s almost like there are a lot of people on the left who kind of hate a lot about America.

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John Brennan Says Putin’s Days Are Numbered

4 Mar 2022

BRENNAN: The truth is something that Mr. Putin terribly fears and which is why he’s going to try to choke off any type of flow of information about what actually is happening in Ukraine. But in this day of social media, in this day of text messages and emails and other types of things, I am certain that more and more of the accurate information is going to get into Russia.

Putin and his henchmen around him, I think they believe that the only option they have is to continue with this ferocious intensity and trying to devastate Ukraine. This is only going to lead to, I think, Putin’s unraveling. I do believe that Putin’s days are numbered, maybe in the double digits.

BUCK: I do believe that former CIA director John Brennan is a loon, and nobody should listen to him about anything having to do with, well, anything. Welcome back to the Clay and Buck show. Brennan, you’ll recall, was the guy who actually said that what Trump did with Russia collusion was “tantamount to treason.” That was his phrase.

So a sitting president was essentially a traitor to his country, according to this guy who was very close to Obama, was his White House, kind of terrorism czar and then became CIA director. And the CIA I will tell you — as an alumni of that institution — it just keeps losing ground and credibility in the public’s eyes every year, I think, because of the people at the top.

There are a lot of good men and women who work there, no question. But the people at the top, the people who are involved in the policy side of it, they are very politicized. It’s unfortunately a left-of-center institution just like all of federal bureaucracy is. And, Clay, with Brennan saying to get to this point here about Putin’s days are numbered, Putin fears the truth?

The Assad regime had a vicious civil war going on, there were accusations of uses of women weapons, air strikes, the Russians were there, Iran. Do you know who still runs Syria? The Assad ream the notion that if there’s in and out of Facebook videos and enough tweets, text messages, dictators will fall. Dictators tend to be good when they’ve been in power for decades at one thing: That’s staying in power a whole lot longer.

CLAY: No doubt. And he’s saying double-digit days, basically. That would mean that he’s gonna be gone in the next three months? Yeah, that’s a big range, but it is a really big prediction, and it feels to me a bit — and that’s why I was talking about Lindsey Graham where we started the show that many people are trying to speak this into existence, right?

They desperately want for Vladimir Putin to be gone and so they are reading all the tea leaves and trying to project that he is going to be gone, and I’m just skeptical that what you think the best outcome is going to be is going to occur, and, to your point, we don’t know who replaces him. So this idea that you’re gonna somehow get a pro-Western, pro-democracy leader who is just gonna come sweeping in and replace Vladimir Putin seems wildly optimistic and without any basis in reality.

BUCK: Yeah. Look who replaced the buffoonish drunkard Yeltsin.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Vladimir Putin. So you don’t always know what you get ’til you get it, folks.

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Clay Calls Out Kamala’s Unserious Explanation of Ukraine War

4 Mar 2022

Kamala Harris thought that explaining the Russia-Ukraine war in “layman’s terms” meant talking to the American people like they’re 5-year-olds. She thinks we’re all imbeciles, and she can’t speak because she simply doesn’t respect the American population. That’s a total disrespect of our citizens, kind of the way Joe Biden disrespected us by choosing — at 78 — this woman to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

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BBQ, Rodeo and C&B from KTRH in Houston

3 Mar 2022

BUCK: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, going strong today from our Houston affiliate, KTRH. Thank you to everybody here for making us feel so welcome and obviously for everyone listening across the Houston Metroplex. Tomorrow night, we got a live event down here. Jesse Kelly and Michael Berry are gonna be rocking out with us. We’re really looking forward to it. There will be barbecue. There will be country music. I will be going to a rodeo (crosstalk).

CLAY: Have you ever been to a rodeo before?

BUCK: The Sexton family has a tradition pre-covid. For years, we would all go, all of us would go to PBR, Professional Bull Riding in Madison Square Garden.

CLAY: Oh, they have it? They would fill it up?

BUCK: They have the whole thing, Madison Square Garden. I guess, is professional bull riding kind of…? Rodeo is a distinct thing from that I guess?

CLAY: You might catch me unawares. The PBR is just like a… My understanding, and there’s probably huge rodeo knowledge people that are driving off the road right now.

BUCK: I’m stepping in it now, like I just called a magazine a clip.

CLAY: You’ve led me across the middle now too. My assumption is that the PBR is just a version of the rodeo like the WWE would be a version of wrestling, right, or NBA would be a version of basketball, and the PBR would be a high level associated with that.

BUCK: But I do know that the Houston rodeo is quite a spectacle.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: So, I’m looking forward to that.

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Larry Kudlow on Russia, China and Biden’s Economic Disaster

3 Mar 2022

BUCK: Larry Kudlow is also joining us now, the Fox News media contributor, his show Kudlow airs on 4 p.m. eastern on Fox Business Network, and Mr. Kudlow served as assistant to the president for economic policy and director of the National Economic Council. Larry, great to have you.

KUDLOW: Thank you. It’s a pleasure. The name’s Kudlow, by the way.

BUCK: Thank you, sir. So, tell us this. The Chinese situation right now vis-a-vis Russia and sanctions: A piece right now in the Washington Post: China Not Emerging as Lifeline for Sanction-Slammed Russian Economy. What do you see with this?

KUDLOW: Yeah, China’s backing off. They haven’t thrown in completely with Russia. (chuckles) They’re not exactly in the Western alliance. But it is interesting to me that they have backed off what I would consider total support for Russia. And, by the way, China has links to the Ukrainians, as you may know, and they have links to other east European countries, which I suppose I don’t like. But whatever I like or don’t like, they’ve decided to withhold.

And I had read also reports that Chinese banks were not stepping up their bank loans to Russia for one reason or another, for one product or another. And that caught my eye, I don’t know, three or four days ago because money in Russia has completely dried up. The U.S. and Western sanctions are working to a large extent. Better late than never.

But, yeah, China is being very cautious about this. And I’ll tell you one other thing, sort of a side light, not exactly what you’re getting at. But the fact that Russia is having so much trouble militarily. Their army is underperforming very badly. I know it’s overwhelming and eventually they’re gonna succeed in some way, shape, or form. But it’s a warning to China. You know, they could go into Taiwan but Taiwan will fight like hell just like the Ukrainians fought like hell. It may not be so easy to exercise any interference over Taiwan’s sovereignty. So there’s a bit of a warning shot there and I’m glad to see it.

CLAY: Larry, you just brought up the Taiwan-China situation, and I’m fascinated to hear what you think would happen. We’ve seen all these American corporations — Disney, Apple, Nike, basically anybody you name that has relationships with Russia — they’ve all backed off since the invasion of Ukraine and said, “We’re not gonna have anything to do with the Russians.” What would they do if China invaded Taiwan, given comparatively wildly more economic power on the side of China?

KUDLOW: Yeah. No, that’s a good point. I don’t know what they’d do. I mean, I… Look, Taiwan’s a very strong economy. It’s completely different than Russia. Taiwan is a leading economy, like a Top 10 or Top 15 economy in terms of their size and their efficiency and productivity and what not. So I’m not sure how these big companies who are heavily invested in China would deal with Taiwan. It might be trickier.

But the one area that is of international significance in Taiwan is not the entertainment or the media area. It’s the semiconductor area. Taiwan’s semiconductor is a powerhouse. It’s a global powerhouse. We’re trying to bring them to… You know, they’re gonna be building a new plant in Arizona. I think they got something going on in the Northwest — in Oregon, if I’m not mistaken.

So the economic value added is all the semiconductor stuff, and that’s really important. And, by the way, worth protecting because if that ever got shut down… So I don’t know how to answer your question. I really don’t. Self-sanctioning… I mean, look, self-sanctioning is a very pleasant surprise by these American companies with respect to Ukraine, very pleasant surprise.

It’s not a hundred percent, and we’re still buying Russian oil, which is a terrible thing, to finance Putin’s war machine. But I’m impressed even in the oil and gas area, there’s a lot of self-sanctioning going on. Refiners are walking away from contracts. Bank lenders are walking away from financing. So if you go to Taiwan, I think a Chinese invasion would be looked at just as badly as the Russian invasion of Ukraine, okay, Buck?

That’s my instinct here. You just can’t do this stuff. In other words, the world has awoken to threats, and that’s very important, and I think Russia has opened up a can of worms they probably never even anticipated. So my hunch is China had a real hard time going into Taiwan, and American companies should be very leery of helping China in any way, shape, or form.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Larry Kudlow, Fox News media contributor. His show Kudlow airs 4 Eastern on Fox Business Network, and obviously he was a senior economic adviser to Trump in the Trump administration. All right, Larry, you heard the State of the Union, obviously, earlier in the week. If we got you in the room with Biden and his National Economic Council and said, “Look, you gotta tell them what needs to be done here with regard to Ukraine specifically on the economy,” what would you tell them they should do that they’re not doing?

KUDLOW: Drill, drill, drill! Completely change their policy regarding energy. You know, this was the fatal flaw from day one, sacrificing energy independence made us dependent on Russia. And it’s incalculably stupid, and it has so much to do with this crazy war going on in the Ukraine and Putin’s grandiose, ahistorical dreams of the Russian Empire. We have got to be using all of our resources. The thing is…

You know, I had Joe Manchin on the show last night. We had a long talk. And it used to be generally agreed upon in both political parties — going back to the last 30, 40 years — we had an all-of-the-above energy policy. We would develop fossil fuels, and we would develop renewables, and we would develop nuclear, and so forth. Now, what Biden has done and much worse… I mean, Obama tried some of this stuff, but the fracking revolution came full-steam on during the Obama years.

There was really not much they could do about it, plus Republicans had the Congress for a good chunk of his presidency. But what Biden’s done is this extreme policy where it’s no longer all of the above. It’s no more fossil fuels, all right, and it’s everything — $550 billion of subsidies going into renewables and batteries and electric cars and all the rest of that stuff. You know, this is a radical departure to these radical progressives, climate people.

And this has to be stopped, it must be stopped. And incidentally it’s not only about energy independence, it’s about the whole economy. Look, fossil fuel powers the economy. And if they continue or if they’re allowed to continue, it will do enormous damage to jobs, family incomes, and things like that. It would do enormous damage to the GDP. There is no alternative universe here. You are not gonna run an economy without fossil fuels! Right now it’s about 70, 75% of the economy.

And by the way, I’m not against wind turbines. I’m not against solar panels and so forth. I’m just saying, anybody who thinks you can get along without fossil fuels is literally out of their mind, and the Bidens are — in that respect — out of their mind. And they’ve never presented an alternative universe. They’ve never given us, you know, “Here’s how the structure is gonna look like. ”

And incidentally, the hypocrisy embedded in this view, in order to go to the electric automobiles and batteries and so forth. You’re gonna have to dig up a lot of commodities, and digging up a lot of commodities itself will be carbon intensive, okay? (chuckles) It’s gonna create more emissions, not less. And we don’t have those resources to do it, and the toll on prices, the cost of this would be just enormous.

And of course the quantity of power would come down. It would raise inflation, and it would do great damage to the economy multiply that’s the point. That’s the single biggest mistake those guys have made — and I’m not even talking about their massive social spending and their attempt to transform both the economy and our culture which is bad enough. I’m just saying on this one particular area is their single largest mistake.

CLAY: We’re talking to Larry Kudlow. He is a Fox News media contributor, and his show, Kudlow, airs an hour after ours, 4 Eastern, Fox Business Network. Last can we for you, Mr. Kudlow, appreciate the time. We talked with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago last week, and part of our discussion centered around the question of whether or not Vladimir Putin would have invaded Ukraine if Trump were still president. You worked in the Trump White House. What’s your take on that? Would Vladimir Putin have invaded Ukraine, in your opinion, if Trump were still the president of the United States?

KUDLOW: I don’t think so. I’ve read his public statements. I have not talked to him in the last two weeks. I talked to him a little bit. I talked to him a few days before the invasion. But look, just in generic terms, Donald Trump would have rattled Putin’s cage, okay? If he had seen 150,000/175,000-troop buildup on the east side of Ukraine (chuckles), he would have got on the phone and rattled Putin’s cage, you know? And I think that’s the big difference.

And the threats that Biden made, for example, about sanctions just on that particular point that he never implemented until it was too late, I mean, Trump would have just told him, “You try this and XYZ. We’re gonna cut this off. We’re gonna cut that off,” and remember, a Trump presidency, we would have been energy independent. We were energy independent. We were producing over 13 million barrels a day! We didn’t need Russia. Okay?

We were the sweet producer, and we were independent, and we were actually exporting, net exports of fossil fuels. So we would have said, “We are gonna shut you down immediately. We would have go after your central bank. We’re gonna go after your oligarchs. We’re gonna go after your banks. We’re gonna go after your oil companies. We will…” So that’s my point.

He would have rattled his cage big time, which he is capable of doing. I was in the room I don’t know how many times with his phone calls with world leaders and all the bilats that I attended in the Cabinet Room the U.N. or the G7. I was the sherpa for the G7 and the G20. He wouldn’t have tolerated it, and he would have told them right there, up close and personal, “If you do this, this is gonna happen, it’s gonna happen tomorrow.” That’s why I think… That’s the difference between Biden and Putin.

BUCK: Larry Kudlow. Larry, thanks so much for being with us here on Clay and Buck. We appreciate it, sir.

KUDLOW: All right. Thanks very much.

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Biden Blames Ukraine On 1/6, Falsely Says Riot Killed 5 Cops

3 Mar 2022

BUCK: Clay, you’ve certainly seen the strength… You mentioned the EA Sports, which is a big video game-maker, kicking off the Russian teams from their soccer game. This is a video game, right?

CLAY: Really strange.

BUCK: And vodka that’s Russian being poured out the drain. We’re having a freedom fries moment of moral panic right now over this. The West knows Putin is the aggressor. He’s the bad guy. We all have clarity on that. We have to watch very closely at what’s going on here, though, and how we can mitigate this, how we can limit this to the degree we can — to the degree we can as outsiders — and not get drawn further into it. That’s the big, bright red line we have.

But you can see there’s already an effort to use the political narrative here of good versus evil in Ukraine in ways that should be very concerning to us back here at home. Joe Biden was speaking yesterday. This was right after the State of the Union address, where… Did you feel the country was unified? I did not feel the country was unified after the State of the Union address.

CLAY: (laughing) No, I would agree with you. I don’t think very many people out there at all felt unified. And, by the way, I want to hear this clip. But can we just point out: Monday, mask outdoors for Joe Biden as he walked across the White House grounds. Tuesday, no mask, State of the Union. Wednesday, Milwaukee to go try to sell the State of the Union, mask again. This is so transparently ridiculous, even not analyzing what he’s saying. But the Mask Olympics, the mask oppression, whatever you want to call it is beyond absurd.

BUCK: Democrat politicians have essentially turned the mask into flag pins.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Remember people would say early on in the Iraq war there’s a lot of people wearing flag pins, people would say, “Where’s your flag pin?” Masking for them is not a sign of patriotism. It’s a sign of adherence to “the science,” whatever that actually means, or they’re suffering from an actual mental health disorder. I mean, somebody who thinks that one day the mask is good, the next day it’s bad, the next day it’s good.

CLAY: It’s so crazy.

BUCK: This is entirely irrational, but while that’s all going on you need to remember, Joe Biden just pretended to be “the president for all Americans” earlier in the week and did the whole rah-rah State of the Union address thing. Here he is just yesterday. I think he was up in Wisconsin.

CLAY: Milwaukee, I believe.

BUCK: Yeah, Milwaukee.

CLAY: By the way, where we’re also number one. We’re number one in Houston enjoying ourselves. You went up to Milwaukee recently. Fantastic people there.

BUCK: Absolutely. Appreciate all of you listening on WISN. Here is what Biden said — you’ve gotta hear this, folks — about the invasion of Ukraine. What really led up to this? Clay clip 1.


BIDEN: Vladimir Putin was countin’ on being able to (cough) split up the United States. Look, how you feel if you saw crowds storm and break down the doors of the British Parliament, kill five cops, injure 145 — or the German Bundestag, or the Italian Parliament? I think you’d wonder.

BUCK: Clay, he is equating… First of all, he’s lying about five cops being killed again.

CLAY: One billion percent lying.

BUCK: He just won’t stop. They keep saying this. People committing suicide months after a riot is not the same thing as dying from being beaten to death with a fire extinguisher at the riot. But put aside that lie for a second. The even bigger lie in a sense is that Putin went into Ukraine, according to this assessment from our current commander-in-chief because of the threat to democracy and the divisions created here at home from January 6th. You have Biden straight-up implying that the war in Ukraine is the fault of people walking into the Capitol building, many of whom were just saying selfies and trespassing on federal property during a official proceeding. This is crazy!

CLAY: It’s beyond crazy. First of all, it should be flagged as a huge lie because claiming that January 6th, five people got killed who were police officers is a flagrant lie. But what’s also crazy about this, Buck, is, Biden didn’t mention January 6th in his entire State of the Union address. He talked for 62 minutes to the entire nation in an address that they probably drafted, what do you think, 20 times, 30 times before it was finished?

They made a calculated decision, “We’re not gonna mention January 6th,” and then he immediately goes on the road to try to sell the speech that he just gave in the State of the Union and decides to make this outlandish of a claim. If he truly believed this, why wasn’t it in the State of the Union, and what sort of political calculus is going on that he’s falsely trying to appeal to a big audience, right? Maybe when he thinks Republicans and independents are paying attention in the State of the Union.

And then when he’s back to sell red meat to the far left-wing elements of his party, he’s selling this. I also wonder, Buck, when I hear this: Were they so attacked by members of their own party privately for not mentioning January 6th that Biden felt like he had to kneel at the altar of the left wing of his party and immediately basically apologize and come out and go farther left than, frankly, I ever remember him going as it pertains to directly blaming five different people who are police officers supposedly dying in this January 6th event.

I thought, Buck — and you did as well — that he would try and tie Ukraine into January 6th. But I thought he would do it in his State of the Union address. I wonder if that got the cutting room floor at the last minute and then the Biden White House had such blowback of a negative direction after the State of the Union that they immediately told him, “Hey, let’s put this back that we cut out of the State of the Union into this Milwaukee for the red meat for the left wingers.”

BUCK: And here’s why I think you have to pay close attention to this. You can’t just say, “Well, this is Joe Biden being the reckless demagogue that he always is.” We are seeing now in this era of covid and the pandemic — and also, reading into that I would argue four years of the Russia, Russia, Russia/Putin stole the 2016 election for Trump hysteria — hysteria as a tool of political mobilization is being used all around us in the west, in America. Look what just happened in Canada.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: You had Justin Trudeau stroke effectively a National Security Act which is close to mayoralty law, the Emergencies Act there, which is only supposed to be if there’s a threat to after we go to and the security of the overall nation, because people parked their trucks in downtown Ottawa and had cookouts on the street. But he thought they were neo-Nazis and I lied about them, and he undermined them in the public as much as possible with those lies.

We’re seeing the usage of tools now that will be used against us here, and I think that’s why it’s so concerning when you have all these things being done against Russians abroad — I’m not talking about even what’s going on in Ukraine — they’re saying we should seize the assets of. People who think of themselves as wise, Clay, and think that they’re brilliant about how to deal with it, want us to punish the children of wealthy Russians who are in America.

You’re seeing this talked about. You know, “We should seize their yachts, seize their cars, keep them out of Harvard,” or whatever. Based on what? What is the legal principle for that? Some of them aren’t even in Russia. You’re just gonna…? Now, that hasn’t happened yet, but you can see the overreaction from the perspective of a moral hysteria that means that people have to do all these things. “We’re all gonna do everything we can! We’re gonna forget about principles.

“We’re gonna forget the rules of law and constitutional precedent and constitutional protection.” People don’t think that’s gonna be used against us here to suppress dissent too? You’ve seen it in Canada. You’re seeing… I’m not talking, again, about inside Ukraine. We’ll get into that a second. I’m talking about what they want to do to Russians all over the world including here in America. We’re in a moment of hysteria right now. People need to slow down, take a breath.

CLAY: This is the challenge in general of social media, because everybody feels the need to one up the next person. And the moral indignation meter — the outrage meter, as I would put it — is constantly in need of being accelerated, of being advanced. And so there’s a moral panic — and I’ve seen this for a long time — in terms of who can be the most outraged by something, right?

And sometimes that can initially be very positive, because I do think the overall outreach of the democratic process to try to stand up against Russia has been very powerful and positive. But at some point, you tip over into the hysteria realm — and I just think it’s kind of outlandish. You mentioned it a moment ago, but sports is often an interesting window into this outrage meter.

Does it really make sense for EA Sports to pull Russian soccer teams off of their FIFA video game? Does it really make sense that your 15- and 16-year-old kids or grandkids who might play FIFA and might have a game where they’re playing occasionally against a Russian team shouldn’t be able to do that? This, by the way, the flip side of this is, same thing when they put Colin Kaepernick in Madden, right?

He’s a quarterback in Madden right now, even though he’s been out of the league for years, and they rated him — inside of Madden where the quality of the player supposedly matters so much — as better than many starting quarterbacks in the NFL. It’s nonsensical. And to your point, Buck, there is an element of hysteria that I believe is manifestly more advanced because of social media than it ever was in the past. Sometimes that can be good, but it rapidly gets out of control and spirals into absurdity.

BUCK: Rules for Radicals, Clay, Saul Alinsky. This is from Rules for Radicals, you want to know how the left thinks? It is essentially their handbook. “Once you organize people around something as commonly agreed upon as pollution, then an organized people is on the move. From there it’s a short and natural step to political pollution, to Pentagon pollution,” and then to whatever else you want. So you get everybody with all this indignation about Russia which is, again, agreed upon.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: But once the people are mobilized, now you have people that feel activated, energized, and they want something, they want to feel like they have power, they have some way of affecting the outcome. And what concerns me is we’re in a time we’re coming out of the pandemic now; people are finally, I think, starting to realize what’s gone on here, and there’s a trauma from…

There’s really a post-pandemic syndrome that we’re all suffering from here in America and places all over the world. But in this elevated time of anxiety, hysteria — when you’re talking about a military conflict going on overseas where one power has thousands of nuclear weapons or over a thousand nuclear weapons, whatever the official number is, Clay — we all need to be very cautious about how fast we are pushed into believing a certain narrative, into accepting, a certain pathway forward because I think the elites are rattled, I think people are overanxious, and I think the Biden administration is desperate for a narrative of, “This is why we should be in charge.”

CLAY: I think that’s well said. I would also point out that this directly undercuts what has been a moment of unity. Most people in America — Democrat, Republican, independent — are united in believing that Russia should be stood up to for invading Ukraine. When you’re Joe Biden and you go to Olympia, Wisconsin… By the way, I believe it’s Olympia, Wisconsin, as opposed to Milwaukee. Sorry. Superior, Wisconsin. Eventually I’ll get it right. Superior, Wisconsin.

But when you’re Joe Biden and you go and say, “Hey, this Russia invasion is directly connected to the Republican Party in the United States,” you dilute the support that you already had and the unity, to some extent, because then you start arguing over why this is occurring as opposed to trying to combat it, which directly dilutes and destroys the unanimity of opinion as it pertains to Russia invading Ukraine. Just another failure of Joe Biden when it comes to trying to draw everybody together.

BUCK: I’ll just throw this out there too, Clay. We didn’t even go a day between the State of the Union — we didn’t go a full 24 hours — before the sentiment was, “Why don’t you guys back Biden up in his righteous pushback against Vladimir Putin?” which we are, actually, backing up Biden.

CLAY: Everybody is.

BUCK: Everybody is. But they went from “Why aren’t you backing up him up?” to, “Well, actually the insurrection caused this; it’s your fault.” They didn’t wait very long with that pseudo-unity message.

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Zuby on Fighting Lib Psychosis: Take Our Power Back

3 Mar 2022

BUCK: We are joined by our friend Zuby now. He is a podcaster, rapper, author, and general life-and-fitness guru. He was with us in the studio in New York. Now he joins us remote. Zuby, great to have you, sir.

ZUBY: Hey, how’s it going, guys?

BUCK: We’re all right. I want you to… ’cause Clay and I… You’ve been a voice for sanity in an era of insane covid policy for a long time here, and I feel like there’s this general, “Oh, we’re all supposed to be so relieved at this point because the covid madness seems to be receding.” I’m trying to raise the alarm here. First of all, I’m not letting it go.

I’m not letting go the bad decisions ’cause there’s been no accountability, but I’m also concerned, Zuby, that this stuff could all come back. Here is HH secretary, Health and Human Services Secretary, Becerra saying that, you know, I mean, some people are gonna keep wearing masks. Play 20.

ZUBY: This is not a light switch. You just can’t go on and off. Uhh, it — it’s a matter of doing this, knowing the science, being thoughtful about how we do this. There will be people who continue to wear masks. Some have to. Those who are immunocompromised, under 5 years of age, children still aren’t vaccinated so we still have reason to be cautious. But look, we’re in a different place today and we can move forward, and we know what it takes and we’re putting the tools together. That medicine cabinet is a lot more full.

BUCK: So bureaucrat here saying I guess your 4-year-old still has to mask up. I mean, this is a psychosis, Zuby. What do we do about it?

ZUBY: Man, I mean, this is a tricky situation because, you know, (chuckles) I had a tweet go viral the other day saying that the science is different in every city and country and so if you don’t like what the science is where you are, then you can simply relocate. I’m originally from the U.K. In my home country of England, all restrictions, all mandates have been dropped.

In England now even if you test positive with covid, there’s not even an obligation to self-isolate. The entire thing has been totally downgraded. So, it’s interesting that England of all the Anglosphere countries in the West was the first one out of all this. I’m surprised that we managed to outfreedom the USA. So, look, there are people who have gained a lot of power, money, and control through this.

And they don’t want to let this go. They’ve been having the time of their lives. They have never been able to have so much control and power and relevance over people, and they’ve been saying nonsense that doesn’t make sense from the very beginning. I’m not sure who that was that was just talking —

BUCK: HHS secretary, the Health and Human Services secretary. So big bureaucracy. Yeah.

ZUBY: Yeah. The notion that 4-year-olds should be wearing masks or remotely concerned about anything or that should even be considering taking a vaccination for something that essentially has a 0% chance of killing or hospitalizing, the whole thing’s insane. It’s been insane from the beginning. We’ve known for two years at this point that that is one demographic that we really do not need to worry about, thank God.

But this has nothing to do with science. It hasn’t been for a long time. Nothing to do with science, nothing to do with keeping people safe, nothing to do with logic, rationality. You can blow infinite holes through this entire narrative. So I think that the people, the population in every given city, region, nation, and so on need to just take the power back.

I think people need to stop going along with nonsense that they know to be nonsense, and I’ve been saying this from very early on. But I think, overall, that’s the solution. And they’re only gonna push as hard as people will tolerate, which is why even in the USA you have some places where essentially never had any restrictions or very, very limited. And you’ve got places which are still getting — you know, they’re still doing all this crazy stuff. It’s not about science. It depends on the people, and the people always have the power.

CLAY: Zuby, one of the first places I saw you was when you decided that you were going to become the greatest wait for in human history and broke many of the women’s weightlifting records.

ZUBY: Mmm-hmm. (laughing)

CLAY: We just had a setting in the last hour where we talked about Penn’s transgender swimmer. You were satirizing the absurdity of the idea that men and women are competing on an even playing field given that men are bigger, stronger, and faster than women. What do you think about the world that we’re in now where the greatest — and I’m using quotation marks here — “women’s swimmer” of all time is a guy who decided to become a woman, and now potentially wants to become a member of the 2024 women’s swimming Olympic team?

ZUBY: (laughing)

CLAY: How crazy? I mean, you can’t even satirize this.

ZUBY: Well, as the British women’s deadlift-and-bench press record holder, I support this move.

CLAY: (laughing)

ZUBY: Look, this might be the level of absurdity that things have to go to for people to wake up. Maybe you need LeBron transitioning and going into the WNBA, we need Usain Bolt transitioning and breaking women’s sprinting records. This is what it takes for people to just wake up out of this psychosis of stupidity and fear and cowardice, then so be it. Honestly the people who…

I don’t want to sound like I’m victim banning here but the individuals who are competing against this individual, they’re the ones who should be taking the stand. If I’m a female swimmer and I’m losing to a male supposedly in a female sport, then I and my team and my fellow competitors should take a stand and say, “No, we’re not competing against him. You know, this is not fair, it doesn’t make sense, they need to stand together.”

And again because of this nonsensical political correctness and this pandemic of cowardice which has been going on in the west for over a decade now, people don’t want to do it people don’t want to tell the truth people don’t want to take a stand on any principle and you’ll hear them whine and complain in the background, but they won’t take a stand. And unless people are willing to take a stand, then they’re gonna get… They’re gonna get what they get. And it’s hard to defend people who refuse to defend themselves.

BUCK: We’re speaking to podcaster, author, rapper, and, what was it, global women’s deadlift champion, technically speaking, Zuby.

ZUBY: (laughing)

BUCK: Those things are all true although I guess technically. But Zuby, I do wonder if at some point one of the ways that people may be to take your experiment, which we all know you did to prove a point.

ZUBY: Mmm-hmm.

BUCK: But maybe the system has to be brought down in some ways or rather the edifice is being created here of lies by people doing just that, someone saying, “Well, I’m going to transition. Well, I’m not going to.” How do they even determine these things? I mean, for the purposes of professional sports, they’re trying to now set up some kind of testing regimen about how much testosterone…

You can’t take additional testosterone. But, I mean, in the case of Lia Thomas, you’ve had testosterone therapy, Lia Thomas has had testosterone therapy for over 10 years already, so to speak, by being a male. So it feels like, how do we bring this thing to a halt? Like, when does it reach the or run into the brick wall of reality in a way that even the left has to admit?

ZUBY: Well, I don’t want it to get to the stage where females are completely getting destroyed or even physically hurt or completely driven out of their own sports. But that is the logical conclusion of this, if people allow it to continue. I mean, when you allow mistruth and you allow lies and you allow coward to us completely take root in a society, this is where you end up.

Everybody knows that this is absurd. Everyone knows. Does anyone really…? Are there really people out there in this world who believe that males and females are exactly same biologically? Of course, we don’t. It’s not true across any animal species, let alone human beings. It’s why we have sports separated to begin with. It’s why you have male prisons and female prisons.

It’s why you have male bathrooms and female bathrooms, et cetera — and, by the way, this is all to protect women, right? It’s not that men’s sports are gonna suddenly start getting flooded with female competitors. That’s not a concern — and the fact that it’s not a concern in itself shows how absurd this whole thing is. Why is it only a one-way situation? For all the people saying, “Oh, there’s no advantages.”

It’s like, “Okay. Well, let’s get some females transitioning to claim they’re men and let’s see them compete in American football or rugby for basketball or anything. ” They can’t. So why is that? Because there’s a difference. And honestly it blows my mind. It’s been three years since I had that deadlift video go viral, but it truly amazes me that this has been a debate going on now for over five years. I’m like, how is this even…?

How is this even a debate? How is this even on the table? This shouldn’t be something that people are even taking sides on. It’s not something that should be politicized. Also, it’s humorous in a way, and there’s nothing funnier than people who have been talking about “following the science” for the past two years who then will tell you with a straight face that males and females are the same or that men with menstruate or get pregnant or whatever.

The whole thing is absurd. But as I said, people need to be willing to speak out. It can’t just be me or you or, like, a couple people being willing to broach the topic and speak the truth. It needs it needs a majority, and I know the majority agrees with us; but unless they’re willing to say so, then they don’t matter.

CLAY: You know, what’s interesting, Zuby, is it’s not even a majority, right? Because if this were a thing where 45% of people felt one way and 55% felt another way — or even 50-50 which is the case with a lot of political issues today — I’m sure you noticed this, and this is what is so fascinating about an issue like this, this is like 95 to 5.

ZUBY: (laughing)

CLAY: There’s almost no one that will even defend idea that a male swimmer can decide to become a woman and then set all-time women’s records, right?

ZUBY: Right.

CLAY: And yet what you have is, to your point, a conspiracy of silence because even though this is a 95-to-5 issue, people are so afraid of the 5, right, the 5%, the tiny minority there, labeling them, that they’re afraid to say something.

ZUBY: Mmm.

CLAY: That’s why I always say if you take it outside of the world of men’s and women’s athletics — like, just consider boxing. Nobody out there is gonna say, “Hey, Floyd Mayweather is a great boxer, right? Mike Tyson back in the day was a great boxer.” We wouldn’t let them fight against each other because Mike Tyson would probably kill Floyd Mayweather because he’s a lot bigger. That’s the equivalent of male-female difference. And yet people are terrified to really say it in the world of sports.

ZUBY: Exactly. And it’s not simply about fairness. It’s about truth, and this is the underlying thing with this issue. It’s like, if we as a society give up on objective truth, right — we give up on objective truth — then we’re in serious trouble. So for me the implications of this are way deeper than fairness and treating women fairly or protecting women and so on. Sure that’s a part of it, but it’s also just about recognizing reality.

CLAY: Yeah.

ZUBY: We need to be able to agree on objective reality. If we can’t do that on something as simple as male or female, something we’ve been able to agree on forever — and which, you know, a 2-year-old can tell the difference between a male and a female inherently. If we give up on that, then you could brainwash people to believe pretty much anything, and that’s not a situation that I think it’s not a situation we want to be in where people are lying and are essentially forced to uphold lies.

I think that’s a problem we’ve had, again, over the past two years with this entire nonsensical narrative around this virus where there have been so many lies and so much deception and people not willing to tell the truth. It leads to bad places and it’s led to bad places in history. So I’m always someone who’s interested in the truth, upholding it when we know what it is and trying to find it when we’re not totally sure what it is.

That’s why we have these discussions and debates and conversations, because, yeah, sure, sometimes it’s hard to know what the truth is or there’s a range of different opinions. But we need to be able to at least exist in the same reality ’cause if we’re trying to do math and I’m saying 2 + 2 = 4 and you’re saying 2 + 2 = 5, then we’ve broken the entire system.

BUCK: Zuby, where can folks go to follow your work and hear what you’ve got going on day to day?

ZUBY: Yeah, sure you can follow me on all social media @ZubyMusic — that’s Z-u-b-y music — and you can find my music and podcast on all platforms. Just search my name, Zuby, Z-u-b-y, and you will find me.

BUCK: Zuby, thanks so much, man. Great to have you on the show again.

ZUBY: Most welcome. Take care.

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Psaki Showcases Her Energy Malarkey

3 Mar 2022

BUCK: Jen Psaki. We were talking about what are we willing to do about Ukraine. You’ll notice, on the one hand the Biden administration is telling you that this is about our principles, and we’ll do anything and we’ll go to any lengths. But not if it makes gas more expensive, ’cause that’s gonna hurt Democrats. Now, I’m not arguing, by the way, when I bring this up, in favor of one or the other policy, at least in this statement right now.

I’m just I’m trying to tell you that what they’re telling you doesn’t add up. You can’t be saying, “We’ll do anything to bring this war to an end in Ukraine that’s within our power economically, except high gas prices. That’s gonna be a little too much.” Here’s Fox News’ Jacqui Heinrich asking Jen Psaki about this. Play 27.

BUCK: This is just… So I’m saying is true, just to be clear, the White House is not doing this, Clay, because they don’t want gas prices to go up. Now, maybe, folks, listening are saying, “Yeah, you know, damn straight I don’t want gas prices to go up.” But the White House can’t then also play the we’ll do anything to stop this war game ’cause clearly that’s not true.

CLAY: Well, and again, we started off the show talking earlier, Marco Rubio said we’re buying 600,000 barrels of oil from Russia every day, and if you look at the price all of barrel of oil, I believe it’s right now over $110. So we are claiming that we are sanctioning Russia while simultaneously uplifting the Russian economy by continuing to buy barrels of oil from Russia.

So if the United States truly wants to do everything in our economic power to sanction Russia, we would buy oil elsewhere. Now, the balancing act there, Buck, as we talked about earlier is, that might mean that everybody has to pay more for oil. Now, maybe not. Maybe the fungible reality is we can buy that extra 10% from Saudi Arabia. You know who they’re talking potentially about buying from? Have you seen this yet? Iran!

So you might be going from buying and giving money to the awful Russian government, and instead of giving the money to the awful Russian government, giving money to the awful Iranian government, which is why energy independence is so important, because most of the countries that we’re giving money to are against American values, and that’s why energy independence in this country is so important, ’cause we keep the money here as opposed to giving it to our enemies.

BUCK: (impression) “Yeah, well, like Jen Psaki totally disagrees with you ’cause, like, there’s no way, like, Keystone and all the other pipeline things would, like, do anything.” Here she is, clip 26, talking about how, “No, no, no, we’re not gonna take the proper lesson about energy independence.” Here. Play it.

PSAKI: The Keystone pipeline has never been operational. It would take years for that to have any impact. I know a number of members of Congress have suggested that, but that is a proposed solution that has no relationship or would have no impact on what the problem is we all agree is an issue.

BUCK: Okay. So what about drilling on…? We actually heard Nancy Pelosi a moment ago saying she opposes drilling on “public land.” Federal land is what she means by that. What about their entire economic energy policy and program, which is to make it harder and more expensive to produce fossil fuel in this country? When people bring up Keystone…

The Keystone XL pipeline, X-ing that out — which is what Biden did day one when he took the presidency — shows you they’re hostile toward this. They’re hostile toward fossil fuel, domestic fossil fuel production across the country, and they need to be made to deal with that reality. This, “Oh, we’ll reduce our overall energy consumption.” That, folks, is their way of saying, “We take private jets to our climate change conferences. You ride the bus or a bicycle.”

CLAY: There are consequences to the choices you make, and the choice that you make when you decide to embrace the Green New Deal is instead of producing all of our energy in the United States, we’re gonna produce some of it here and then we’re gonna give money to Russia or we’re gonna give money to Iran or we’re gonna give money to Saudi Arabia.

Those countries, by and large… Saudi Arabia’s the best of those three, but they do not embrace American democratic values. So you are undercutting the legitimacy of the American entire system of governance based on climate change malarkey, in my opinion.

BUCK: Good usage of “malarkey.”

CLAY: There you go. I’m impressed by that too.

BUCK: We shouldn’t just cede that one to Biden.

CLAY: Yes. (laughs)

BUCK: That’s a good word. I like that word.

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Led by Hispanics, Texas GOP Primary Turnout Trounced Dems

3 Mar 2022

CLAY: Buck, I wanted to hit you with some numbers. I was reading the Wall Street Journal this morning. These numbers come out of Karl Rove’s column, that part of the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal. We mentioned that we are in Houston, we are in the great state of Texas. Tuesday was the primary, first primary in the nation for 2022, and Republican enthusiasm on full display.

I’m reading from Karl Rove’s column here. The number of Republican votes has skyrocketed in 2022 compared to 2018, the last time we had a midterm. Republicans turned out 23% higher over the numbers they had in 2018 while the Texas Democrats — with still a few votes out there basically — were down, it appears, a little bit. But here’s what’s really wild, Buck.

Down in south Texas, where I know we got people listening to us right now, “the GOP turnout was up 162% in Cameron County over 2018 and 113% in Hidalgo,” that’s down along the Rio Grande Valley right there across from Mexico. “Republican turnout was also up 50% in Nueces,” and if I mispronounce some of these, this is on me, “County,” which is Corpus Christi, “up 51% in El Paso.” Hispanics in Texas, also certain in Florida, breaking in massive numbers and continuing to go when it comes to their allegiance to the Republican Party.

BUCK: It turns out that people who live near a wide open and largely lawless border do not like that situation, and it’s not racism or xenophobia. It is about the rule of law and what is best for their communities along the border. That’s the first thing that comes to mind. I’m sure there are many other things, whether it’s the Biden economy or inflation. But you’re pointing out specifically South Texas along the border. It’s not surprising that people are coming out in big numbers for Republicans because they want the lawlessness along our border to stop.

CLAY: And we have got an unprecedented revolution underway that is not being talked about very much in the national media as it pertains to Hispanic support for Republicans. Based on those numbers, we are trending towards an incredible 2022 when it comes to Hispanic people who are saying the Democratic Party has lost us with their woke politics.

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