Clay Discusses Tom Brady’s Retirement Audible

14 Mar 2022

Like the GOAT before him, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady decided to un-retire and rejoin the NFL for an incredible 23rd season. Clay appeared on Fox & Friends to break down the reasons behind this journeyman decision.

These past two months I’ve realized my place is still on the field and not in the stands. That time will come. But it’s not now. I love my teammates, and I love my supportive family. They make it all possible. I’m coming back for my 23rd season in Tampa. Unfinished business LFG pic.twitter.com/U0yhRKVKVm

— Tom Brady (@TomBrady) March 13, 2022

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11 Mar 2022

CLAY: One of the things we’re gonna start doing now on Fridays for our VIP members out there, who we appreciate… By the way, you can go sign up for the VIP at ClayAndBuck.com. You can get access to a lot of cool VIP-related endeavors as part of our 24/7 network, including some videos of Buck and I behind the scenes doing the show. A lot of people are writing in emails with questions, Buck, and the many people were reacting to you saying that you couldn’t drink beer because of celiac disease, and evidently there’s lots of beer out there that people can consume.

BUCK: Lisa wrote in… Remember, if you go to ClayAndBuck.com become a subscriber, you can send us email. Mailbag Friday is now a thing. We may come up with a cooler name. I don’t know. I kind of like that name. It gets right to it, you know: Mailbag Friday always delivers. So, you can write in to us and we’ll read it here on air on Fridays.

Lisa writes, “I also have celiac. I’ve had it for 11 years, was a former beer lover. You should try Omission. It is real beer with the gluten removed. The owner of the company has celiac as well.”

And we’ve got a top-four list: Omission Beer Light, Pale Ale, IPA and Lager. Glutenberg is apparently a thing, Red Bridge and Green’s. A lot of gluten-free beers. I will tell you: I have tried gluten-free beer.

CLAY: Doesn’t work for you?

BUCK: It’s just not very good. Maybe I’m admitting also I was never… I don’t know. I was never that into beer. I always associate it with drinking it out of a keg in a red Solo Cup when I was in college. That was all we drank. It was very cold at Amherst, everybody was very inebriated. That’s what was going on.

CLAY: What we’re finding out here is things that almost everyone in the Clay and Buck audience loves and does regularly, Buck has never done: Football games, college football, beer. Huge overlap.

BUCK: I drank beer for 30 years!

CLAY: And never filled out a bracket, which leads us to this question from William in Sacramento.

He says, “Hey, Clay and Buck, next football season or even March Madness, it would be great if you developed a team approach to football picks. Team Buck, Team Clay, where Buck could utilize the support system of staff such as Mark. It’s sad that my 16- and 11-year-old daughters would out-pick Buck for any sport!”

BUCK: Whoa, whoa, whoa.

CLAY: He’s just throwing elbow at you.

BUCK: Hold on just a second there, William from Sacramento!

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: My sports and international soccer club knowledge of soccer and of tennis is actually better than most teenagers, I will have you know. But for, yeah, the big American sports I probably need a lot of help. My producer Mark, who is my EP for years, he’s a sports fanatic, man. So I’ve got a ringer in the background, Clay. You guys better watch out. I may surprise you.

CLAY: So, the brackets will come out, Buck, on Sunday. By Monday, when we come back to join everyone at 12 Eastern, we will have a bracket in front of you, and you can begin your research head-to-head, me versus Buck. I’m a longtime college basketball fan. I’ve filled out brackets for 35 or 36 years in a row. Buck has never filled out an NCAA Tournament bracket. We’re going head-to-head.; we’re gonna see who can win the bracket.

BUCK: Excited for the steaks or burgers that you’ll be buying for the New York staff here when I come out victorious with my first-ever bracket.

CLAY: I’m just excited by the fact that I could actually walk into a New York restaurant for the first time in a long time. Starting on Monday, they’re not gonna require me to show my nonexistent vaccine card.

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11 Mar 2022

BUCK: We are joined now by the man who has been instrumental in bringing forward data, facts, and truth for two years now, Alex Berenson, author of Pandemia. Please subscribe to his Substack. I am a subscriber, Clay’s a subscriber, we recommend you do the same. Alex, thanks for being here.

BERENSON: Thanks for having me, Buck.

BUCK: What are the most important things people need to hear now about the situation of covid, the data… I mean, there’s so much we can dive into. But, Alex, honestly, just want to give you the floor. What do people need to know about what’s happening right now?

BERENSON: Well, I mean, I think you’ve said it. And we’ve talked about this for a while and it looks… You know, it looks like, you know, it is even more true than it was a couple weeks ago or a month ago. We’re in a better place in terms of the pandemic itself, in terms infections and, you know, the spring is coming, and it’s likely we’re gonna see a continued seasonal fall.

But in terms of the politics, I think it’s really important to understand that the people who did this, the people who — you know, who forced lockdowns and who forced masks and who forced school closings, some of them just want this to go away, right? The politicians on the Democratic Party side probably just want this to go away. But the public health establishment has not conceded defeat.

And they want to sort of set policies in place so that when the next pandemic comes, or when covid comes back — and I do believe, as I said to you before, it’s likely to come back — that the rules that they established in the last couple years will come back too. And so we need to fight on a couple of levels, those of us who are on, you know, what I call Team Reality have called from the beginning.

One, we need to make sure that the truth about what happened over the last couple years comes out, starting with the lab leak, you know, and the likelihood that that’s the real source of this, going on to the fact that, you know, lockdowns failed completely to make any difference in the course of the epidemic, and talking about vaccines, which is probably the most controversial issue. But one where I will say and, you know, have said and will continue to say that, you know, it doesn’t look like vaccines did very much good at all if you look at the overall course of the pandemic the last couple of years. It certainly doesn’t look like they should have been mandated.

BUCK: Can I ask, Alex, what is the latest on…?

BERENSON: Yeah.

BUCK ‘Cause the last thing that they were really holding onto even into let’s say January, mid-January, it was, “Well, if you get the shot, you’re not gonna die, and if you didn’t get the shot, covid will kill you,” was essentially the binary they set up. Do we have a better sense of, “Okay, it was somewhat effective at lowering mortality but at what level?”

BERENSON: So really good question. Really complicated. In the U.K. — and I wrote a Substack about this this week — 90-plus percent of the people who die in the United Kingdom now are fully vaccinated, meaning two shots or boosted or, you know, or… Yeah, two shots or boosted: 90% of the people who die in the United Kingdom are in those two categories, okay? And the United Kingdom still has a lot of covid deaths.

It’s not like I’m talking about five deaths a week. There are a thousand people in the U.K. dying a week plus, and the U.K., you know, it’s about one-fifth the size of the U.S. So there’s a lot of death happening in a basically fully vaccinated population. Here’s… The math gets really complicated because Delta is different than the wild type and Omicron is different than Delta and there’s this time element where you don’t get…

You know, you get benefits for maybe a couple months after the second shot and then it goes away. Every… Here’s the takeaway: Everybody who said, “This is gonna stop the pandemic,” they were wrong. They said, “It’s gonna reduce your risk of infection meaningfully.” They were wrong. Now they’re down to, “It reduces your risk of death and severe disease,” maybe marginally, when you look at the whole picture.

Not by 90%, not by 80%, not by any amount that is gonna stop a lot of people who are fully vaccinated from dying. That’s the truth, and that’s why this has to be a personal choice. If you’re 80 years old, you’re really scared of covid, you’re at higher risk from covid, taking the vaccine and hoping for the best may still make sense for you. Okay, if you’re 20 years old, and you’re at low — very low — risk from covid to begin with and you have risk of myocarditis, taking the vaccine makes no sense.

It should not be mandated. College shouldn’t make you do it. Your employer shouldn’t make you do it. It should be your choice. Most of us aren’t 20, and we’re not 80. We’re somewhere in the middle. It should be a personal decision for all of us. And, you know, when we talk about going forward, that’s maybe the most important, you know, lesson of all. We need to talk honestly about what the vaccines did and didn’t do, and we need to talk honestly about what the rules should be, and the rules should be: Nobody who doesn’t want take this has to take it.

CLAY: Alex, when you look at the Covid Zero attempts that were made in China, that were made in New Zealand, that were made in Australia, New Zealand and Australia have completely abandoned that idea —

BERENSON: (laughs)

CLAY: — and as a result, their case rates are skyrocketing. Interestingly, China’s still trying to do the Covid Zero, and I think they just shut down Shanghai. But Hong Kong is having an outbreak that is really off the charts if you look at what is going on there.

BERENSON: Yeah.

CLAY: What is going to happen, in your mind, when you look at what’s occurring in places like Hong Kong? Is Covid Zero still a viable strategy even for a place like China which is having Draconian lockdowns and has been doing them for two years, or is Omicron so incredibly infectious that it’s impossible?

BERENSON: Great question! And, you know, I think China is the last domino to drop. And you’re absolutely right. Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, you know, Japan, South Korea, I mean, they weren’t at Covid Zero, but you know they very effectively had low case rates. All of Asia now — aside from China — is having off-the-charts levels of covid and it’s very hard to see.

I mean, China is a densely populated country. How exactly are they gonna continue to have no cases? And I think the answer is they’re gonna have cases. They may be scared because, you know, they did have these sort of Draconian lockdowns and they did pursue a Covid Zero policy, but they’re gonna have Omicron in a population that has essentially no base natural immunity —

CLAY: That’s exactly right.

BERENSON: — and it’s gonna be crazy for a month or two. But they’re gonna have no choice. They’re gonna have to do that. That’s what the rest of the world’s experience suggests.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Alex Berenson. His Substack is certainly worth your subscription, friends, and Pandemia is his book. Alex, we just had to have you tee off on this one for a second. Clay and I have been going back and forth ever since they announced it. Not only are they extending the mask mandate on planes. Clay and I were both flying last week, and a lot of people flying listening to us flying in recent days.

BERENSON: (laughing)

BUCK: They extended the mask mandate on planes and in airports, of course. It’s actually a mask-up-between-bites policy. And Jen Psaki tries to defend this as though, “Oh, but you’re moving from a high transmission to a low transmission through a medium transmission.” Do people come to you more and more in the recent weeks and say, “Wow, you were right; the libs are insane”? Like, what’s going on?

BERENSON: (laughing) I mean, you know, it’s not so much that. It’s that they just want to forget the last two years, right? So my mother, okay, who’s fully vaccinated and boosted and, you know, for two years called Tony Fauci “America’s doctor” unironically, she —

CLAY: Hold on. Hold on. (laughing) I want to hear more about this.

BERENSON: Okay.

CLAY: But what are the holidays like given what you do and what your mom’s perspective obviously was?

BERENSON: You know, we — we didn’t talk that much about covid. (laughing)

CLAY: (laughing) A lot of people can respect that, by the way. I want to hear more about your mom and Dr. Fauci and what her perspective is now.

BERENSON: (laughing) She literally… So she, you know, she hadn’t traveled for two years, she been, you know — although she wasn’t personally, you know, like, “I’m gonna hide in my basement,” kind of freak like that but, you know, she was cautious. So last month — and she was alone now; my father died, as I actually mentioned in Pandemia. He died sort of early in the pandemic although not of covid. So it’s been a lonely couple years for her.

So she got on a plane and went to London for two weeks. This 77-year-old woman just decided, “You know what? I’ve had it. Like, the restrictions are off; I’m going somewhere,” and she went there, and she came back about a week ago, and we were talking, and she said, “Oh, yeah, covid, but everybody seems to be done with it.” (laughing) So it’s like, “Did the last two years not happen to you? Do you remember?”

CLAY: (laughing)

BERNESON: And I think most of the country — I mean, most of the left, I would say. I’m guessing now, but let’s say 60% of the left is like that, right? Like a hundred percent of the right is done and close to a hundred percent of people in the middle are done. Sixty percent on the left just wants to pretend it never happened, and certainly all the politicians want to pretend it never happened.

But then there’s this group of people, and I get emails about them, covid just broke them. Right? (laughing) So I get an email from a reader the other day saying, “My dad has gotten five shots. He lives in a Northeastern state and he drives to other states to get more shots, and still won’t go outside.” You know, it sounds like a joke, but this guy’s broken, right? He’s never gonna get better.

So there’s a group of people who personally can’t leave this behind, clearly, and then there’s a group of people in the public health establishment — the ones I was sort of talking about at the beginning — who are almost regretful it wasn’t worse, right? They were gonna use this thing to remake society and, you know, give us all universal basic income and nationalized health care.

And they didn’t get to do it ’cause the pandemic wasn’t bad enough, and they are plotting the next one, okay? Those are the people who are dangerous and those are the people we have to be careful about. But most of the — and the problem from the point of view people on, you know, my side or your side is: We have to make sure that people in the middle who just want to forget about this, don’t forget, because there needs to be a reckoning. It needs to be a political reckoning and there needs, you know, to some extent to be a criminal reckoning. Whether or not that’s gonna be possible, I don’t know.

BUCK: Amen. I mean —

CLAY: Where do you think, by the way, Fauci is?

BERENSON: (bursts out laughing)

CLAY: I mean, do you have, like, a tracker on him, because he’s vanished. Buck and I started making jokes about this a couple of weeks ago, and I thought at some point he would reemerge.

BERENSON: (laughing)

CLAY: But, I mean, they really have totally, like, killed him in terms of being able to talk to any media. I mean, it’s wild.

BERENSON: (laughing) I issued a silver alert for Fauci last week.

CLAY: (laughing)

BERENSON: But no joke. ‘Cause he’s such a megalomaniac they haven’t been able to get him off the air entirely so he’s talking to like — I’m not joking — African-American, like, podcasters — who, you know, who have some audience; you know, I don’t know whether it’s thousands or tens of thousands — that you’ve never heard of. Because, like, if he doesn’t get endeavored like I think his oxygen supply dries up and he dies. So they’re letting him speak, but they’re letting him speak in places (laughing) you’ve never heard of. That’s what they’re doing with Fauci right now.

BUCK: Yep. He’s lying in the basement somewhere on someone’s podcast.

CLAY: Maybe we should put another request in. Maybe he’ll come on with us now.

BERENSON: You should! Get him on! (laughing) That’s right!

BUCK: We’ll try.

BERENSON: Oh, I’d pay to hear that.

CLAY: Yeah. Me too.

BUCK: Us too. Yeah. Alex Berenson, everybody. Check out Pandemia. Get a copy of Alex’s book. Alex, we’re gonna keep on this, man. So we’re gonna be talking to you. Thanks for being with us.

BERENSON: We will forgive but we will not forget.

BUCK: One hundred percent. Thanks, Alex.

BERENSON: Thanks, guys.

CLAY: Amen.

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C&B Talk with Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo

11 Mar 2022

BUCK: We are now joined by the surgeon general of the state of Florida, Dr. Joseph Ladapo. Doctor, thanks for being here.

DR. LADAPO: Yes. Thank you for having me on.

BUCK: So, Florida — this was the story just a couple days ago — will be the first state to officially recommend against the covid-19 vaccines for healthy children. Dr. Ladapo, tell us why, how you came to this conclusion, and what you’ve seen in response from the medical community.

DR. LADAPO: Yeah, this is one that all of our grandmothers can understand. I mean, it’s very simple. It’s based in (garbled cell) basically tantrums, people who are just unhappy with what we said, but not putting much thought into the reasons why we said it. I mean, it’s very simple. You know, we have a country where most healthy children have already had covid-19; they have immunity. There’s no data that says that these kids benefit from the vaccines.

CLAY: Dr. Ladapo, this is Clay Travis. Appreciate you joining us and the work that you’re doing as surgeon general down in Florida. So I’ve got a 14-year-old, an 11-year-old, and a 7-year-old. I looked at all the data. I think they probably have had covid since my wife and I both had it. But the data doesn’t reflect that they should get it based on what I have done, my own research, and based on the doctors that I’ve talked to. I believe you have children as well.

One of the reasons why I like to not only get the opinion of officials in their official capacity, you’re also a parent. I’m assuming you’re making the same choice for your kids as you would be advising other people. I think that’s significant because a lot of people don’t trust you unless you say, “Hey, I’ve got kids, too, and I’m telling them to do the same thing,” because there is an innate understanding that every parent out there is looking out for their kids the best.

DR. LADAPO: Right.

CLAY: So I’m curious. I believe you have young kids as well. What are you doing with those kids, and how would you consider this not only as a doctor but also as a parent?

DR. LADAPO: Oh, yeah. Well, hey, we’re in a similar club. Your kids are a little older. I’ve got three wonderful boys 8, 5, and 3 years old. For all the money in the world, I would never give them one of these vaccines. I think it’s even… It’s just silly. I mean, I’m sure they’ve had it. My kids have been out and about since the beginning of the pandemic in the spring of 2020, and while limited benefit or no benefit — basically unknown benefit — is one part of the equation, the other part of the equation is the risk.

People like to pretend like we know everything there is to know. That’s a flat lie. We will continue to learn things about the safety of these vaccines just as we have over the past several months. Unfortunately so many scientists and doctors are pretending that what’s happening really is that they’ve decided their position, and their position is that every kid should get this, and then they just sort of pick and choose which data point they want to use to support that. And it’s completely ridiculous. So, all the money in the world, I’ve never given some new product to my kids, particularly when they’re incredibly low risk and almost certainly wouldn’t benefit.

CLAY: Well, I appreciate you telling us that. I’m curious. You know that were you at UCLA when all of this began — I believe so, based on what I have been reading — and that the way that California was shutting down was very frustrating to you and your wife in terms of having those three young boys and wanting them to be able to be out and about running around. They got a lot of energy, as anybody who’s had three young kids knows. What has your experience been, not only as a doctor, but just as a parent moving from California to now live in Florida?

DR. LADAPO: Oh, it’s been terrific. It’s been fantastic. You know, the schools shut down in L.A., and so we had our kids home. We did the best we could with the remote learning, which really hurt the poor kids the most, so it hurt the black kids and kids who are I hope so, and they did it willfully. They kept the schools shut. We did the best we could for our kids.

When the next school year started and they said, “Okay, the kids can come back but we’re gonna test you twice a week and force you to wear masks,” my wife and I were like (laughing), “Not in this universe. So we didn’t reenroll them, and fortunately, we were just starting with kind of a homeschool with some like-minded parents. And fortunately, that’s when I got the call from the governor’s office.

So it’s been great here. They go to school, they have fun, they get to be kids, they’re not worried about something they don’t need to be worried about. And they’re happy, friends sports, how kids should be. Not this ridiculous sort of prison system school testing, mask, and stay away from other kids that some people in the country are trying to normalize.

BUCK: Speaking to Dr. Joseph Ladapo, surgeon general of the State of Florida. Dr. Ladapo, you guys did not have a mask mandate in schools over the last year or so — or certainly this past school year, I should say. What can you tell us in terms of the data on this? Because this is still… I just saw another study, I think it was yesterday, that’s in preprint that claims that masks reduce cases something like 75.

You actually look at the study, and it didn’t reduce cases but they said based on modeling reduced secondary cases, which, how they get that? Well, it’s a computer model. You can’t question it. What data do you have to answer the question the definitively whether mask mandates in schools are an effective protective measure or not?

DR. LADAPO: Well, basically there’s none. So in terms of the highest quality evidence we have about mask use, you look at the randomized clinical trials, and even the ones that have been done during the pandemic, and basically, they either find no benefit or a very small benefit. And none of the randomized clinical trials that have been done during the pandemic have found any benefit — zero, nothing — in young people. So it’s really a belief system in terms of the mask mandates in schools, and I’ll tell you.

One of the studies that the CDC touted as supporting it basically was taken down by The Atlantic, which is a left-leaning outlet. There were so many holes in the study, so many data errors, methodological errors, statements that were essentially false in the study, poor control groups. I mean, it really is sort of this… I don’t know. It’s like this crusade, and it’s just not founded in data.

CLAY: We’re talking to Dr. Joseph Ladapo. He’s the surgeon general of the State of Florida. I’m curiously medically — not just your opinion as a logical human being, but medically — State of the Union address, Joe Biden and virtually every member of Congress, Senator, Congressman, almost none of them are wearing masks. And yet the Biden administration came out yesterday and told us we have at least 30 more days of needing to wear masks on airplanes and in airports. Is there any medical basis at all to explain why it’s safe for everyone to not have masks at the State of the Union, but it’s unsafe for us to be not wearing masks on airplanes?

DR. LADAPO: (laughing) Well, was just so you can add it to the long list of things that make no sense, but public health leaders and political leaders have insisted needed to be done. Whether it’s like, “You sit down and you eat; you can take your mask off. You walk to the restroom, walk to the bathroom in the restaurant, you put it back on.” It’s just a lot of nonsense.

And a lot of Americans, I think, have woken up to that, and I just hope everyone does. It’s just been a complete sham, these measures that have been taken without really any substantial basis and evidence. And people have had two years, you know? Roll out the good evidence if you’ve got it. If not, please stop advocating for these burdensome policies.

BUCK: Dr. Ladapo, do you have a lot of physicians that you know personally or just through the professional world that come to you and say, “I’ve kind of known all along that this Fauciite madness was anti-scientific crap, but I was too scared to say anything. I thought they’d come after my license”? Are you coming across a lot of doctors who are saying now, “I was wrong; I should have agreed with you”? I’m just wondering, within the medical community… Some of us have been wondering why there are so few doctors who are willing to speak out about what is so plainly obvious now and has been for a long time.

DR. LADAPO: Yeah, it’s the good old cancellation theater. Docs, if you’re not independently wealthy, you depend on your medical practice to provide an income for your family. Well, when CNN and NBC and CBS and the dean of your medical school and whatever other health leaders are saying, like, you gotta wear the mask and you gotta do this and you gotta do that — even when the evidence doesn’t support it — people want to be able to put food on the table, pay for the mortgage and avoid the being called mean names by journalists.

So, I think that’s the main reason. For me, it was not enough. Just so many things were so wrong, and the stakes were so high, and I go back to the kids and these lockdowns and keeping them out of school. That’s gonna reverberate for decades. And we knew. That was no mystery. What do you expect? That’s what happens when you cut people, children off from a critical part of their development and their safety and their security. So I think the cancellation theater has been quite powerful in silencing doctors who know that the things that we’re doing don’t make sense.

CLAY: It’s interesting, Dr. Ladapo — and we appreciate the time you’re giving us. We know how busy you are. You laughed when I asked the question about the State of the Union, nobody wears masks, and then bringing it back for airplanes. It is so ridiculous, I think, to the vast majority of people who are listening to us right now, millions of people all over the country. But how do we end the mask mandate, right?

Because Buck and mine’s concern — and I’m sure this is something you worry about, too — is, even the places that are dialing back use of masks now are saying that they’re “able” to do it but they could bring them back. Remember, they took them away from us and said, “You don’t have to wear masks,” in May of last year, and then they brought ’em back throughout the rest of the summer and the fall. How do we end this once and for all?

DR. LADAPO: That’s the thing in my mind; I think that’s something that’s on Governor DeSantis’ mind also. My hope is that we can provide enough education to people so that they just stop participating in these silly, silly games. It’s completely ridiculous, it’s ludicrous, and if we don’t participate, there’s nothing that can be done. And that’s what should happen, because the evidence just isn’t there.

BUCK: Dr. Joseph Ladapo, surgeon general for the State of Florida. Sir, thanks so much for being with us. Appreciate it.

DR. LADAPO: All right. Thanks, guys.

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CLAY: I was reading this morning something pretty fascinating. There is a new poll out from the Wall Street Journal analyzing the midterm elections and more, and there are many different aspects of this poll that are getting a lot of attention, but the biggest is that Republicans in the Wall Street Journal poll have opened up a five-point lead in the congressional midterm elections, which is a seismic gap relative to the historical Wall Street Journal poll.

And where is that gain coming from? I flagged this ’cause I thought it was so interesting. Again, Republicans with a five-point lead. Usually, Republicans have a little bit of a deficit overall in the congressional numbers. But where’s the gain coming from? In the new poll compared to in November, Hispanic voters now say that they would back Republicans by nine points. Now, assuming…

Again, I understand all the reticence and nervousness associated with polls in general, but Republicans have surged among minority groups according to this Wall Street Journal poll. Nine percentage points favorite now among Hispanic voters. The two parties were tied in the Journal survey in November. And black voters have also moved into the Republican camp as it pertains to Congress, down from they had a 56-point lead, Democrats did. It’s now down to 35 points, and Republican candidates support among black voters has risen to 27%.

Which, by the way, if Republicans ever got 27% of the black vote, the Democratic Party as we know it ceases to exist. And it may cease to exist if we end up with a favorite in the Hispanic vote, but that 27% of black support is up from 12% in November. Buck, do you buy these moves in terms of — I was just saying — the five-point lead now the Wall Street Journal says that Republicans have overall in the congressional race, which we’re talking about 1994, 2010 level dominance trending right now based on those numbers, if, we always have to say, they’re accurate.

BUCK: If not now, when?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: If it wasn’t true given what we are seeing… And as we pointed out so many times, it’s almost hard to find an area where the Biden administration has a compelling narrative of anything other than incompetence, bad decision-making, and things going poorly. You can’t actually find anything prominent right now to speak of where you’d say, “Oh, no, they’ve done a great job with” or, “Wow, that actually worked out like they said it would.

“We can’t really criticize that. That actually benefited the American people.” That doesn’t really exist with this administration. Clay, just to reiterate, we’re having serious talks right now as a country about how do we avoid a full-scale military confrontation with a nuclear-armed Russia? Remember all the hysteria when Trump was president? “He’s gonna start a war with North Korea (squealing)!” and everyone just looked at them like, “What you are even talking about?”

It was fantasyland stuff that they were pushing. This is real, and this is happening on Biden’s watch. The economy is going to get… If this war continues for months, and it’s certainly looks like it’s gonna continue for weeks. But if it continues for months, we’re gonna feel economic impact here. The markets are all driven by fear and greed, they say, right — essentially, sentiment. How do people think this is going to go?

What do they believe corporate profits will be like, economic stability will look like in six months, in 12 months, if this war drags on, people are going to have more negative — I’m just talking about the economy now — sentiment, the economy is going to suffer as a result of this, inflation is going to go higher, and people are gonna see what that does to their ability to pay their bills, what it does to their 401(k)s. What exactly would anyone have to be thankful about?

No mean tweets? We don’t get as many lectures about the make-believe threat of the white nationalist takeover of the White House? This is what we’re supposed to be thankful for? We’re worried about nuclear war and the implosion of the U.S. economy into a recession, and they want to tell us, “Don’t worry. We’re doing great stuff on climate change and gender identity and equal pay for women”? This what I mean by these people are unserious, but serious in their destruction.

CLAY: What is significant, I believe, is the Republicans have the better message. And they don’t just have the better message for white voters. They have the better message for Hispanic, Asian, and black voters too. What the Democrats have is an apparatus to allow their distorted message to be widely distributed. And I think what is starting to happen… This is why the red pill discussion has such metaphorical cogency.

Many people out there are now aware that they aren’t getting truthful reporting. And I think many of those people are like me. Now, I came in seven, eight years ago. But I think many people are becoming aware. They know that they’re not being spoken to honestly. And what you’ve seen happen in Hispanic voters is pretty extraordinary. I don’t think it’s getting enough attention.

Down in south Texas, that was a Democratic stronghold for generations. And now what Trump did, I think, is explode it and make people start to question what they’ve been told. And suddenly down in south Texas — and this carried forward in the midterms in the primary as well — there is a mass appeal for Republicans.

And if this Wall Street Journal poll is accurate, I think that it’s going to require — and this is what I predicted is gonna happen for a while — 2022 and 2024 are going to destroy the Democratic Party. And they are gonna have to back to the drawing board and recognize and cancel culture and identity politics, which is the foundation of their entire party, is not going to work.

Not only for white voters, it’s not gonna work for Hispanic, Asian, or black voters, either. And then we end up in a brand-new political universe. That’s where I think we’re headed for. I’m an I am sorry. I think the Democrats are gonna get blown up in ’22 and ’24, and by 2026 we’re an entirely different world.

BUCK: Yeah, Biden commies don’t even do socialism well. Who could have thought!

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National Security Analyst Steve Yates on the Ukraine Crisis

11 Mar 2022

CLAY: We are joined now by former Bush National Security Administration official Steve Yates. Appreciate him joining us right now to talk about the latest in Ukraine. Steve, I know it’s been probably a crazy couple of weeks for you trying to keep tabs on everything that’s going on, talking to everyone that you know. What would you say has surprised you…? Couple-part question here to start with: What surprised you the most, and where do you think we are headed from here?

YATES: Well, thanks, Clay. I think what has surprised me the most is really what has been breaking in the last couple of days with this effort to tie some biological labs in Ukraine to kind of an Iraq-style pitch to the U.N. by now Russia probably backed by China suggesting this was preemptive self-defense on the part of the Russia.

I have to admit, I did not see that kind of a thing coming when this broke out, and I think a close second to that is the resiliency of the Ukrainian people. I knew that there would be resistance, but I’m, frankly, impressed — largely being left alone by the international community — of them being able to grind this out against Russia. That, I think, has been a pleasant surprise.

BUCK: Hey, Steve, it’s Buck. There has obviously been a lot of back-and-forth the last couple of days over the possible provision of MiG fighter planes of Polish origin through Germany via the U.S. to Ukraine. So, essentially, they’re handing us planes — they would get new planes from us as part of the initial pitch — and the older planes they have would go to the Ukrainians to fight. That has been scuttled for now by the Biden administration. How do you analyze and assess that? Is it a provocation? Is it a good idea? Would it change much in this battle? What do you make of it?

YATES: Well, I think there’s been some terrible fumbling by the Biden administration in terms of handling an ally like Poland in this. In general, I think it’s a good principle to help others help themselves. I think that’s what the United States should be doing with Europe without our being the front of it. It’s what other Europeans should be doing for the Ukrainians right now.

So if the people of Poland want to provide material assistance, the United States shouldn’t say no and it shouldn’t really be seen as a provocation any more than, say, Putin invading a neighboring sovereign country is. I don’t think it was really that much of a status quo breaker, and I thought it was really, really awkward for team Biden to kind of say, “You can’t or maybe you can,” and then sort of pull it right back. It was just terrible all the way around.

BUCK: Would the planes make a difference, though, Steven?

YATES: I do think the planes would make a difference. I think the Ukrainians need all the materiel they can get at this point. Number one, to give them confidence to keep going with their resistance. Number two, maybe that would have the potential to change Putin’s calculus. If he sees that Europe is serious about protecting Europe, then fundamentally that gets at what’s at the heart of this, which is Russia’s relationship with Europe and Europe’s response to both the energy dependency and the security problem.

CLAY: Steve, how long does this go on, right? I mean, we have what appears to be almost a siege-like situation going on with Kiev as they are slowly encircling the city to strangle it down, it seems, the Russians. Is this something that — we’re sitting right now in March — in April, May, and June, this is still going on, or based on what you are seeing, is there going to be a resolution sooner than that?

YATES: Well, sadly we’re really in the seventh and eighth year of a war already, and so we’re just catching one act of this drama at this point. This current version of it, I think, could break a number of different ways. Every once in a while, Vladimir Putin suggests he’s looking for a way to kind of consolidate his gains and sort of sue for some semblance of peace.

But the Ukrainians need some kind of security guarantee that is not coming from NATO, is not coming from the United States. And so absent that, I think they keep grinding this out for a long time, which I think is very upsetting to a lot of people, rightly so. But I just don’t see a way around that unless something really breaks.

BUCK: Speaking to Steve Yates, former deputy national security adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, and also founder of the America First Policy Institute. Steve, the Putin goal here, is it strangle Kiev, take half the country and make it part of the Russian Federation after negotiations with a beaten-down Zelensky government? Seize the whole country and then suppress any insurgency? What do you think Putin’s endgame is?

YATES: My going-in proposition was that he was just seeking to knock the legs out from under the current government and install a puppet and would be happy having a friendly, reliable sphere of influence as his buffer. That I think calculus has changed by getting bloodied through this, and I think he’s now trying to push for more maximalist options of actually controlling Ukraine — all of its territory — outright. The only reason question is whether enough of a deterrence can be put in place and whether sanctions actually bite, which I don’t think they’re strategically biting sufficiently yet to change his calculus to just accept where he has taken territory and call it a day.

CLAY: Do you think, Steve, that Putin would be willing to use tactical nukes based on what we are seeing so far, or do you think the threat is more bark than it is bite? How do we analyze his perspective here, given that many of his decisions seem to have surprised the so-called experts so far?

YATES: Well, I think that’s the real challenge in it, that everything has been a surprise to the intelligence set so far, and I think that there’s no question that he is willing to do things. He’s been willing to assassinate and poison foreign leaders. He’s been willing to spread all kinds of noxious things in the system. And he is, of course, collaborating with the People’s Republic of China which unleashed a toxic virus out into the world for two years. So I don’t think we can count on their sense of humanity or restraint. There’s been talk of tactical nuclear weapons openly for a couple of weeks now. I’d like to believe that wouldn’t happen, but I think we have to be very, very prepared for all outcomes at this point.

BUCK: Stephen, what would you advise the Biden administration to do right now if you were back in the kind of role you were under the Bush administration?

YATES: Number one, first do no harm. Let others who want to help the Ukrainians the way they choose go forward and do it. Number two, I think find a way to press the Europeans to go much further, much faster on realigning their dependency relationships and their defense capabilities, because America has big challenges in other parts of the world too. It cannot afford to carry Europe’s weight when Europe can afford to carry it itself.

CLAY: Outstanding stuff. Where do you see us…? I guess last question. I know predicting is so incredibly difficult to do. But if you were, based on looking at the all the data right now, trying to analyze it, where are we going from here over the next couple of weeks?

YATES: Well, with regard to Russia-Ukraine, I think we’re pushing toward a moment of possible decision about, is it a deal to be had and are serious leaders gonna come to the table and try to impose one that give the Ukrainians some real sense of security and gets Moscow its guarantee that it seeks? It’s an ugly deal, one no one really wants, but that might be the only way that this military conflict takes at least a pause. Otherwise, we’re grinding ahead with what we have seen, and the people of Ukraine will continue to pay a dear price.

CLAY: Stephen Yates, thank you for giving us the time and breaking down all the latest situation in Ukraine with us.

YATES: My pleasure. Thank you.

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Pelosi Blames “Putin Tax” for High Gas Prices

11 Mar 2022

BUCK: We talked to you yesterday about how they’re gonna try to spin the situation — I don’t just mean what’s happening in Ukraine, I mean in general — for this administration. You’ve got effectively 8% inflation. You have the massive failures of the covid vaccine mandate regime, where they’re talking about masks, vaccines, you name it, to stop covid this past winter.

You have the world it seems closer to World War III than perhaps at any time since the Cuban Missile Crisis. You have to wonder, when was the last time we were having a really serious conversation about, “Oh, what if they fired nukes”? People are having that conversation now every day. This is all from a Biden administration that was supposed to unite us all, calm things down, and return us to normalcy.

Remember, that was the promise, that was the promise just over a year ago. Well, that’s not working out so well. So what are they gonna do? Well, it worked for them for a few years when Trump was president. Blame it all on Russia. Here’s Pelosi with the gas prices you’re paying: Oh, it’s just the Putin tax. Play it.

PELOSI: Let me just get back to you the question, the larger issue about Putin’s tax that’s — (sputtering) th-th-th-that’s really P-p-putin’s gas hike. That’s his gas hike. (sputters) So much of this increase in the gas tax — , uh, gas price started (sputters) weeks leading up to what happened there.

Nancy Pelosi blames Putin for high gas prices, but gas prices were rising long before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine pic.twitter.com/ktu6RkmIdt

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) March 11, 2022

BUCK: Clay, this won’t work with this audience, but do you think it will work with enough people that they’ll be fooled by this in America that the Democrats get away with it?

CLAY: No, I don’t think it will because even back in Harry Truman days, “The buck stops here” was on his desk. The president gets more credit and more blame than he deserves, frequently, and your average person is not analyzing larger geopolitical positions as it pertains to why it costs so much to fill up their gas tank. I think it might work for left-wing loons who are trying to desperately to convince themselves that Joe Biden is not the worst president of their lives, and that Donald Trump was not the cause of everything that was going awry for them.

And so I think that what’s gonna happen is the average person is not going to buy into this. There’s going to be a desperate attempt to try to convince people. But if you look, the trend lines on the price of oil and gas were skyrocketing even before the Ukraine incident occurred, it’s not gonna be accepted by the vast majority of people.

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DeSantis Fires Back at Disney’s Distortions

11 Mar 2022

CLAY: I want to give some props here. If you have been paying attention at all to the way that the media has covered a bill in Florida which is designed to ensure that kindergarteners, first graders, second graders, and third graders effectively are not exposed to sex-related education, right? So you’re not going to hear about heterosexual sex, you’re not gonna hear about gay sex, you’re not gonna hear about transgenderism, you’re not gonna hear about any of that, which I think most parents think is appropriate for 5-year-old to 8-year-old kids, roughly.

I’ve got a first grader. I don’t think that he needs to be figuring out how the birds and the bees work in first grade school. I don’t think we need to have a deep analysis of heterosexuality versus homosexuality versus transgender. All these different things, to me, as a parent of a public-school kid, it seems appropriate that that is not topically accurate for young kids.

So this has turned into, the way that the mainstream media has covered it, the “don’t say gay” bill. And so you’ve got all different sorts of politicians running around screaming the word “gay,” which is supposedly prohibited from classrooms. Of course, that’s not true. It’s actually just designed to ensure that kids are learning age-appropriate lessons. So Disney, which is based in many ways in Florida…

Many of you listening, probably, have gone to Disney World. Certainly, a lot of you listening have watched Disney-related programs. Probably a lot of you are probably with Disney+ subscribers. All of this is true for me. Disney has a new CEO. His name is Bob Chapek, and so far he has been as politically active as Bob Iger, who is the former CEO of Disney and wanted to be president of the United States.

Bob Iger still might run for president of the United States at some point, and he (as a result) embraced in parts of left-wing ideology. For instance, with Jemele Hill, formally of ESPN, called the president of the United States, Donald Trump, “a white supremacist,” he didn’t do anything, didn’t care, probably agreed with her. And Bob Chapek has tried, the new CEO, to stay out of the political fray. But there were so many left-wing activists that were fired up about this bill that finally Disney issued a statement and ripped the state of Florida for passing this new bill.

And here’s the deal: Lots of people out there who are politicians would avoid this conflict and would pretend that it didn’t happen and would let Disney tee off on the people of Florida and would not fire back. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis was not going to stand for that. So yesterday in an event in Boca Raton, he specifically said, “I’m not gonna let Disney take shots at us.” Listen to this small segment of a couple of minutes of comments that he made on this issue.

Florida governor Ron Desantis just teed off on Disney for criticizing Florida for prohibiting sex discussions in K-3 classrooms. He also asked why Disney bends the knee for China while embracing woke politics in US. I love it. pic.twitter.com/0JrQKkEmgm

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) March 10, 2022

BUCK: That’s the way you gotta do it, Clay.

CLAY: It is.

BUCK: So he’s right. He’s right on the facts here. But as we know, if you’re a conservative and you become someone who’s out there – whether it’s fighting in public or even just having a debate with someone in your day-to-day life — being right on the facts isn’t enough. You actually have to be willing to take the fight, so to speak, to the other side a little bit say, “No, I’m sorry.

“We’re not gonna live in this fantasy world that you’re trying to create. You can’t say a bill bans a word or bans conversation that it flatly does not. You can’t do that, and I’m not gonna let you do that.” Ron DeSantis terrifies libs. Whatever one thinks about his future aspirations or not, it doesn’t matter, because he’s showing a state that is run well and that is attracting people from all over the country by the hundreds of thousands. We have the equivalent now of people, of Americans moving to Florida… A lot of people I know are moving to Texas, a lot of people are moving to — I was gonna say Nashville, but — Tennessee.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Nashville too. But this is the federalism that we have at work, and Ron DeSantis is always putting on a clinic not only for how to run a state well so that people want to come there, right? It’s not easy leave where you live. I live in New York City. It’s the most straightforward thing. You might have family, your job, your roots, your town. People are saying, “I’m done. I’m leaving California. I’m leaving New Jersey.

“I’m moving down to Florida, Texas, and these other states.” But beyond that, DeSantis also shows that you have to be firm. You have to you have to be strong when you hold the line against — let’s just call it — “the fake news.” You have to be willing to do that because look what they were able to do in the last week, Clay. The entire media apparatus was somehow running around saying the “don’t say gay” bill. This would be like they walk around saying, the “Biden Saves America” bill instead of the big spending bill, the Build Back Better agenda. They’re not supposed to engage in that kind of obvious propaganda. And Ron DeSantis throwing a haymaker here.

CLAY: Well, plus it’s Disney, and I hate this. I really, genuinely hate the idea ’cause I’m talking about taking my kids to Disney World because you like Disney World, ’cause kids like Disney World, right? Kids, by and large, enjoy going to amusement parks. I don’t enjoy the idea that I have to contemplate whether I want to spend money on something that I know my kids would like because Disney is deciding to embrace this woke apparatus of political agenda.

So what I wish were happening, what I wish were happening is that we were in a situation where Disney would just say — what I wrote my most recent book on, Buck, Republicans Buy Sneakers Too — we’re in the business of appealing to kids everywhere, and so we’re not going to get drawn in to every single fake political story. But when they do, and they did, I absolutely love that Ron DeSantis came back with a haymaker. ‘Cause, what? Disney’s not leaving Florida. (laughs) They’re not gonna relocate.

BUCK: I canceled my Disney+ subscription, Clay, because of the Gina Carano thing.

CLAY: The Mandalorian mess.

BUCK: I love The Mandalorian. The first season was great. The second season kind of went off the road. But the point is, I had a Disney+ subscription. My family had a Disney+ subscription, put it that way, and we canceled it when the Gina Carano thing happened because it was just so outrageous.

CLAY: And you hated having to do that, right, that you had to make a choice on politics when you might otherwise like some content, right? It’s stupid. The same thing is happening in sports where I feel like every day, I’m throwing punches in this culture war and we’re in and I just wish they would say, “Hey, you know what? You like basketball; you can watch basketball. You like football; you can watch football.” It’s not the world we live in right now.

BUCK: I mean, for me, you know, we make a lot of jokes about how I’m not a big professional sports fan. I kind of used to be. I’ve gotten much less so as I’ve gotten older. And for me football is a good enough product that I go, “Well, I kind of like to watch it sometimes.” NBA? I grew up, and I had an uncle with season tickets to the nix so I used to go on a regular basis to Madison Square Garden, I know those Knicks players still by name.

CLAY: The Patrick Ewing days, you were there.

BUCK: Patrick Ewing, Trent Tucker, John Starks. I can go down the whole list. The Bomb Squad, Anthony Mason. Not Dominique Wilkins, Gerald Wilkins. I remember, I used to see these guys all the time. I went to tons of games. Now it just the NBA, I watch, I’m like, “I’m sorry. I’m just done. I’m just not gonna do this anymore,” and I wish that wasn’t the case. And I wish more people, quite honestly, would see this as damaging to their business interests, but Colin Kaepernick? I was asking you about it before the show today. Suddenly, he’s in the best shape of his life, a better QB now than (crosstalk).

CLAY: It’s been like five years in a row that Colin Kaepernick’s been in the best shape of his life and he wants to play in the NFL. But, Buck, it was just like five months ago that he had a Netflix documentary special where I think we pulled some cuts I believe we played on the show.

BUCK: “I Am Colin”? Is that what it was called, I think? Is that right?

CLAY: I didn’t watch any of it except for the clips that I saw. But he compared the NFL draft to a slave auction. That was that a huge part.

BUCK: I do remember that.

CLAY: I think we played that on the show, and it shows — like, literally the video shows guys — and look, if you’re not paying attention the NFL Combine, it just happened. Everybody walks around basically in underwear. Your height, your weight, your arm length. Like, basically every single thing about you, they analyze in an effort to determine whether or not to pay you millions of dollars to play football.

And so Colin Kaepernick in his documentary that Netflix theoretically paid millions of dollars to him for, they take those guys walking around shirtless, getting measured, and turn it into a slave auction. So they move from, “You’re an NFL head coach looking at the different possible guys that you’re gonna pay millions of dollars to,” to, “You’re at a slave action and you’re bidding on slaves standing on a stage.”

BUCK: Comparing to people who are dehumanized and treated as property and threatened with the constant possibility of extreme physical abuse and death to multimillionaire celebrities who everybody wants to be like and be near and have them —

CLAY: They are making the voluntary choice to play football, right?

BUCK: Completely insane. It is about as… You’re picking being among the most privileged and blessed people in the freest, best country in the world right now and comparing it to a situation of human beings being treated as property, as subhuman. Completely insane.

CLAY: And what’s wild about it in addition to the insanity is, Buck, he’s now trying to become a slave again, right? So he has gone from saying, “The NFL treats everybody like slaves; you are effectively a slave,” to begging and training for the opportunity to be a slave again. So what is it? I can’t even keep up with him. Are athletes still slaves, or is it an aspirational goal to be a NFL player? Like, the answer is it’s the second, but he’s not even intelligent enough to have been able to put forward a consistent position on this.

BUCK: Just circling back to the corporate wokeness thing for a second, NFL obviously this counts as well there. But when you’re talking about Disney, here’s a problem we have to face. The woke left is mobilized and activated and makes demands and puts pressure on these places all the time. I think conservatives just by nature of how we view the world…

And, you know, we have a more individual and liberty and live and let live attitude to things are less likely to do this stuff, but if we allow this to continue, they continue to dominate corporate America is what ends up happening. They get their way. And so this is why I say, you know, we either do something about it or we just keep complaining about it.

CLAY: Well, I think what you have to do at a minimum is show that there’s consequences for taking statements and making statements like these. And a lot of Republicans just pretend it doesn’t exist, politicians. I like the fact that Ron DeSantis fired back because you need to know that this is not a situation where you can just bow down and genuflect at the altar of the woke and there’s not gonna be consequences on the other side when you do that, and I appreciate DeSantis throwing punches.

BUCK: This is like when Amazon Web Services kicked Parler, the free speech social media platform, off, effectively de-interneted it. I knew so many people who said, “Yeah, it’s horrible!” I was like, “I love getting these Amazon packages.” It’s like, “Okay.” They know that, and that is why they can do that because they know that you’re not going to stop.

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White House Briefs TikTok Stars on Ukraine

11 Mar 2022

CLAY: Thirty TikTok stars have received a briefing from the White House on the war in Ukraine, according to the Washington Post. “On Thursday afternoon, 30 top TikTok stars gathered on a Zoom call to receive key information about the war unfolding in Ukraine. ” This news just coming out. I just… I mean, I understand the White House probably would sit around, Buck, and say, “Well, we need to make sure that young people understand the consequences and significance of what’s going on in Ukraine.”

But the idea of the White House convening a briefing for 30 top TikTok stars? First of all, I hope Joe Biden talked to them, because I love the idea of Joe Biden having to be explained what TikTok is in and of itself. But this is just… This is like when they had the influencers. Remember when they had, like, the ridiculous —

Biden staffer explains why WH has been briefing TikTok stars about war in Ukraine https://t.co/gVdecm7Zmw

— Twitchy Team (@TwitchyTeam) March 11, 2022

BUCK: Of course. That guy who came in —

CLAY: — with the long fingernails who was gay or whatever.

BUCK: The handbag and the long nails and the whole thing?

CLAY: I don’t know who that guy is, by the way.

BUCK: (laughing) I do not either.

CLAY: I understand he’s influential online in some way, but I don’t know that I’d want him at the White House.

BUCK: I will say this: We as conservatives, we look at an administration that is just fundamentally unserious. It’s doing serious damage but it’s unserious people who are making these very important decisions. But they do understand marketing and propaganda and will turn around and say, “Why is it…?”

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: To the point about, you remember we were having the discussion about —

CLAY: Eighteen to 34 year olds won’t fight. Why would they not fight if we got invaded?

BUCK: You look at TikTok, you look at these platforms. They are making kids… They are convincing them of politics and of narratives on a regular basis.

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