Kamala’s Latest Word Salad, Translated

31 Mar 2022

CLAY: We talk for a living, Buck. Sometimes we say things that don’t sound great. But I don’t think either of us have been anywhere near as bad as our vice president, Kamala Harris, virtually every time she opens her mouth. She was talking about Jamaica and covid. If you haven’t heard this yet, here is the latest, Kamala doing…

And the way to think about this is, if you’ve ever been a kid who was trying to write a paper in high school or middle school — and you didn’t read the book and you have no real idea what you’re talking about and you’re attempting to try to get your word count up because it’s a minimum of a thousand words or it’s a minimum of 750 words — Kamala Harris sounds like that in virtually every public event.

Here she is talking about covid in Jamaica.

Kamala Harris speaks like she has to hit a word limit on a high school paper she’s done no research for. pic.twitter.com/m6DDUIQG5g

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) March 31, 2022

BUCK: She has an unbelievable gift of speaking without the actually saying anything. It’s really hard to do, actually. It’s hard to have so many words come out and then you say, wait. But what exactly? All of what she said there I think, Clay, you could have fit that into a sentence, and I mean like a 20-word sentence.

CLAY: You could easily… Here is distilling what Kamala just said: Jamaica has had many issues with covid. It has impacted their economy and we’re doing our best to help them.

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: That is what she was attempting to say — and again, I’m not reading off a script. I don’t have a staff of probably a hundred people who are trying to assist me. She really, Buck, it seems to me doesn’t do any homework and so isn’t prepared for any of the public events she’s going to do, which is why she has so much fill. You can agree or disagree with what you or I say. We read all day long every day.

BUCK: All day long every day.

CLAY: It requires a lot of prep to be able to synthesize anything in terms of these stories. She doesn’t do it.

BUCK: It’s almost like there’s a reason the Democrat primary electorate rejected her as a candidate. But anyway…

CLAY: And why they’re gonna reject her if she runs in 2024.

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Miranda Devine Answers the “Why Now?” Question

31 Mar 2022

CLAY: Miranda, thanks for joining us. Right off the top, I’m gonna suck up a little bit.

DEVINE: (chuckles)

CLAY: I think you and your Post colleagues deserve, like, 10 years of retroactive Pulitzer Prizes, since the Pulitzer was rewarded for all those Russian collusion stories that didn’t have any basis in reality and your story is suddenly being confirmed everywhere. What do you attribute the New York Times, the Washington Post, CBS, ABC, CNN, NBC, to suddenly deciding after 18 months, “Oh, this story’s kind of a big deal and the laptop is real?” Why is it happening now?

DEVINE: Hi, Clay and Buck. Look, I think it’s pretty clear that the U.S. attorney in Delaware which has been investigating Hunter Biden for tax evasion and money laundering and violations of the Foreign Agent Registration Act — pretty hefty crimes if they were committed, those are pretty hefty allegations — and they’ve been investigating him since 2018, and it looks as if it may be coming to fruition fairly soon.

We know now that Hunter Biden’s business partners have gone and have been subpoenaed and appeared. We know Devon Archer, one of his former business partners, testified and handed over documents. And we know that his baby mama and another ex-girlfriend also appeared. So all of that put together, I think, is making the rest of the media that ignored our story for the last 18 months realize that they don’t (chuckles) want to blind side their audiences, that they need to actually soften them up and prepare them for what may be coming down the pike.

And that’s the only reason. They’re still running interference for Joe Biden. You know, both CNN and the Washington Post have almost identical sort of disclaimers in their stories in the last few days saying, “There’s no evidence that Joe Biden was involved,” which is ridiculous because we know the Washington Post has the laptop — it has possession of the laptop — and there’s plenty of evidence there.

BUCK: Miranda, I wanted to ask you specifically about that. You know, we mentioned the last hour when we brought you on, we posed to you, to put it in shorthand, the “10% for The Big Guy” line — a lot of people know that one from Hunter’s communications about kicking money off to Joe Biden. What is… I mean, to the extent that we have information, evidence already, what is there at least pointing in the direction of a real financial connection, not just to Hunter Biden, we know about that, but to Joe Biden himself?

DEVINE: Well, let’s just start very basically. Joe Biden lied to the American people — that is a fact and is proven by the evidence — because he said before the election, several times to the media, he said, “I know nothing about my son Hunter’s business dealings.” He hadn’t met with any of the Hunter’s partners, so-called. Yet there is so much evidence of all the partners that he met from all over the world. He met them in Beijing; he met them in Washington D.C.

So that’s a lie. Then you come to the financial entanglements. We know — and it’s circumstantial. We know that Hunter Biden complained, basically complained that he had to give half his salary to his father. We know that there are emails there showing that part of one Chinese deal where 10% was going to The Big Guy. We know from Tony Bobulinski, who is one of Hunter’s former business partners, who gave a press conference before the election campaign that was ignored by that section of the media.

We know that he has said that Joe Biden is The Big Guy. That was the way Hunter described his father. They sort of spoke in code about Joe Biden, but he was The Big Guy, he was “my chairman,” Hunter called him. And Joe was told about all these deals. He knew about them. Hunter was in contact with him every day. And so that’s that. And then we also know that there was some mingling of finances.

So, you know, a shared debited card, shared bank account — this is from Hunter’s own words on the laptop — and also there is an email from one of Hunter’s business partners, a guy who used to run all the details of his life, basically, ’cause Hunter was a crack addict. And this guy, Eric Schwerin, talks about taking money out of an account — like a special account of Hunter’s — to pay for, you know, Joe Biden’s maintenance and upkeep and renovations on his house.

This was, you know, $10,000 here, $2,000 there. Not huge amounts of money, but also paying an AT&T phone bill every month. Hunter was paying one of Joe’s phone bills. So that’s the tip of the iceberg. I think that’s all the evidence that we have. But it’s enough. It shows that there is money going from Hunter to Joe, that Joe was being talked about as getting cuts of deals, and that they had commingled finances. I mean, what more do you need?

CLAY: Miranda, all this detail is great, and I know you’ve been covering this story now for a long time. A couple of questions: Do we know if Tony Bobulinski has been called by the grand jury to testify in the Hunter Biden investigation? Second part of this question —

DEVINE: I can’t answer that.

CLAY: Do you know the answer to that one?

DEVINE: I do.

CLAY: Has he testified?

DEVINE: I can’t answer that.

CLAY: Ah. Well, that is intriguing. So second part of this: If Tony Bobulinski is testifying, and even if he does not, what you mentioned as it pertains to Joe Biden is he’s lied. He’s certainly lied to the American public.

DEVINE: Yes.

CLAY: Lying to the American public is not a crime, right?

DEVINE: No.

CLAY: But if Joe Biden were called to testify as a witness in this Hunter Biden grand jury investigation, he would be put under oath, and he would be asked about all of these emails, The Big Guy emails, the commingling of the finances, potentially meeting some of these business partners with Chinese interests and Ukrainian interests. Do we think that Joe Biden might be subpoenaed himself as a witness in the Hunter Biden investigation? Have you heard any intimation that that might occur?

DEVINE: No, I haven’t. All I know is that the Republicans are talking about investigating this and using the laptop as a road map.

CLAY: Yes.

DEVINE: And I know I spoke to Ron Johnson yesterday. You know, he talks about — he and Chuck Grassley did incredible work, but the laptop’s not enough. You need also the information that Tony Bobulinski had given to the FBI, his testimony, but also what Ron Johnson, Chuck Grassley did.

CLAY: Yes.

DEVINE: Now, that’s what the Republicans will do. They will build on already an immense amout of very useful financial information, tracking the money for some of these deals. And as Ron Johnson tells the story — he told me yesterday — that the obstruction from the Democrats was one thing. You know, calling it Russian disinformation, accusing him and Grassley of being Kremlin stooges, organizing these fake FBI briefings and leaking them to the press.

That’s bad enough. But really what stymied their investigation when the Republicans had control was their own Republican senators who got squeamish, thought that the investigation into Hunter Biden was too political. Who knows what relationships they had? Maybe they felt sorry for Joe Biden, their family member used to be a senator.

But Mitt Romney and Rob Portman, both Republican senators, just refused to go along with some of these subpoenas that Ron Johnson wanted to give.

Ron Johnson wanted to subpoena Hunter Biden and Devon Archer and these people. So, if the Republicans themselves do not hold together as a team after the midterms, then forget about it.

This is the problem. You have Republicans who are squeamish, in that party and for whatever reason are helping to protect Joe Biden. And it’s just not right. And if they hadn’t obstructed their own comrade in Ron Johnson, then these stories about Joe Biden would have already come on the public record and history would have been changed. Joe Biden probably wouldn’t be president today.

BUCK: Miranda, first of all, everyone should go get the book, Laptop From Hell — Miranda Devine’s book that’s out now, been out for a while. Where do you see all this going? What can you tell us about what you’re expecting in the weeks ahead? ‘Cause I know some people who saw the laptop hard drive mirror in the early days who are telling me now, “There’s a lot more coming.”

DEVINE: Yeah. Well, I’m not sure there’s a lot more in the laptop.

BUCK: No, no. (chuckles) I mean about the Hunter Biden case in general.

DEVINE: Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Hunter Biden… (sigh) You know, I guess the most likely thing is that there will be indictments coming out of that grand jury of Hunter Biden. Also, I’m told that half the focus of the questioning from that grand jury has been on Blue Star Strategies, which is that Democratic lobbying firm which was basically dragged in by Hunter and Devon Archer into their Burisma dealings, that corrupt Ukrainian energy company.

Blue Star Strategies was doing some lobbying on behalf of Burisma, allegedly, and that would put them in violation of the FARA act, which is FARA, which is, you know, Foreign Agent Registration Act. You’re supposed to register as a foreign agent if you’re doing lobbying for overseas companies. And this is a little-used crime until the Trump World. It started being weaponized against Trump World.

And you had Paul Manafort who was part of Trump’s campaign who went to jail over it, and Oregon, Tom Barack, there are some allegations there he is being caught up in investigation to do with FARA. And FARA is being weaponized against Rudy Giuliani. So, this is now regarded as a serious crime with serious penalties. So Blue Star Strategies, there are allegations about that. So I think something momentous will come out of that grand jury. Who knows when, but certainly they’ve been hearing testimony from Hunter’s partners since at least last summer.

CLAY: Miranda, Buck and I have a steak bet on this.

BUCK: No. She already weighed in!

CLAY: He’s getting increasingly nervous.

BUCK: She thinks he’s happening. She’s already… She’s gonna be sitting here across the table.

CLAY: I just want to make this clear. I’m betting a steak that he will get indicted. Buck doesn’t think he will. Would you take my side or Buck’s side in the bet here?

DEVINE: Well, I would take your side, only because I think the evidence is pretty overwhelmingly, and I think there’s so much people looking at this story that it would be such a terrible blow to the kind of reputation of the U.S. attorney in Delaware that I’m not sure that they’re gonna let Hunter off the hook. But what I think might happen is that Blue Star Strategies might take precedence and take up a lot of the media time, and maybe Hunter will get lesser charges. I mean, there’s talk of — in the New York Times in fact where they’ve rehearsed his defense. There was talk of downgrading criminal charges for FARA to civil charges registered retroactively.

BUCK: Just to be clear our bet is that it has to be criminal charges there, Miranda. We’ll see. I don’t think so.

DEVINE: Ah! Ah! Okay.

CLAY: (chuckles)

DEVINE: Well, I’m sitting on the fence here, then, in that case. I mean, other people, he’s paid a million… He borrowed a million dollars from some generous benefactor to pay his taxes, but he did it after the investigation had started. And with mere mortals like you and me if we do that, it doesn’t get us off the hook.

BUCK: Does not indeed. That’s true. All right, Miranda, thanks so much. Laptop from Hell is the book, everybody. Go check it out. Thanks, Miranda.

DEVINE: Thank you, Buck.

CLAY: You and your compatriots. You guys deserve 10 Pulitzers.

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Gordon Chang on Shanghai and China’s Population Crisis

31 Mar 2022

BUCK: We have our friend with us now Mr. Gordon Chang. He’s author of the Great U.S. China Tech War, and you can follow him on Twitter @GordonGChang. Gordon, thanks so much.

CHANG: Well, thank you, Clay and Buck.

BUCK: So let’s start with the situation of the lockdown in Shanghai and covid in China ’cause we’re starting to hear rumblings here, Gordon, about the BA.2, I think it is, subvariant of covid. But in China they’re still in… Well, give us an overview. We don’t hear much about what their policies really are with regard to covid. Are they still doing zero covid? They’re still doing lockdowns. What’s going on over there?

CHANG: Yeah, they’re still doing zero covid because Xi Jinping, the Chinese ruler, is said to be behind it, and this really means that China is not trying to live with the disease but to prevent every instance of it. They’ve got covid outbreaks, as you mentioned, of the Omicron BA.2 variant all across the country, from Jilin Province especially in the Northeast, but also in places like Shenzhen in the South, and most notably now Shanghai which is under a two-part citywide lockdown.

That’s 25.1 million people in separate phases are going through — each person — two sets of covid tests. And this means public transportation is locked down, people can’t go to work. This is really disrupting society across China. One thing that’s important is that regardless of what you think about vaccines, China has no effective vaccine against Omicron, and so therefore its only defense is isolation, which means they shut down every place that there is a single case.

CLAY: Gordon, I appreciate you joining us. One of China’s big stories that they’ve been trying to spread is, “Look at how well we have handled covid compared to the Western democracies in particular.” They’ve used that as a valedictory for their system of government. Given that they’re one of the last places, if not the last place in the world to still be following the zero covid policy or Covid Zero policy, what sort of risk do they have going forward?

Because, as you mentioned, they don’t have a lot of natural immunity. They don’t have a particularly effective vaccine. It seems like based on every other country in the world it is virtually impossible to stop the most recent variants from spreading. What could this do to the legitimacy of the Chinese government, and what struggles and challenges could it bring to bear?

CHANG: Well, Clay, you raise a critical point that most everybody forgets, and that is if we go back to February of 2020, Beijing started to propagate the narrative that the failure of the West — especially to the United States — to contain covid, was an education that democracy did not work. And they pointed to their own system as being able to control covid to show that communism was superior.

So every covid case is a threat to the legitimacy of the Communist Party. And that’s why, for instance, from January of 2021 to last month they didn’t report a single covid death in China. They reported two in Jilin Province. Obviously, there’s a lot more. But there’s a bigger threat than just legitimacy, and that is covid…

Because they believe in isolation, because they’re trying to prevent every single case means that they’re taking these Draconian measures which they’re undermining an already weak economy and they’re convincing a lot of companies that they have to have a more resilient supply chain, not just based in China.

They need other factories elsewhere. And this is not gonna be good for China in the long run because it means that their economy is going to suffer. Some people say they’re taking $46 billion-a-month hit to their gross domestic product — $46 billion each month.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Gordon Chang. He is the author of the Great U.S. China Tech War, @GordonGChang on Twitter if you want to give him a follow-up for more analysis. Gordon, what have we seen in terms of China’s response to the Russia invasion of Ukraine? In the early days, there was a lot of chatter about China getting pushed much closer into the Russian orbit, perhaps picking up some of the economic slack, so to speak, of the sanctions that would have been hitting Russia and hitting Russian energy. What has China done, and how are they positioning themselves vis-a-vis this conflict that’s really consuming the West right now?

CHANG: China is supporting Vladimir Putin to the hilt, and it’s not just elevated commodity purchases, which is financing directly Putin’s war, but it’s also China’s put its diplomats at the service of Russia. China’s big propaganda machines amplify these ludicrous Russian narratives. And China is making its financial system available to Russian institutions that have been sanctioned by the West. We kicked them off SWIFT.

They can then go on the Chinese version of SWIFT, which is CBIPS, Cross Border Interbank Payment System. There has been a lot of talk that Sinopec, which is a large, state-owned enterprise, pulled out of a potential gas deal with Sibur, a large Russian oil and gas company.

But I don’t think sanctions were the issue for that because Sinopec still has another ongoing deal with that same Russian entity. So really Beijing is trying to play it both ways and unfortunately the Biden administration is not sanctioning them because we know that China is supporting Russia to the hilt.

BUCK: Gordon, what lessons, if any, has China taken from the failure of Russia to rapidly conquer Ukraine? In particular, certainly I would think — and I’ve read some of these things; I’m curious if you agree — that the Taiwanese people have been emboldened by the resistance that Ukraine has shown to Russia and believe that despite the vast superiority of the Chinese military, that Taiwan might be able to hold out in a similar fashion.

Particularly because, unlike in Ukraine, they have roughly a hundred miles of open water that would theoretically provide some barrier of protection, make it more difficult to provide support for any invading forces. What lessons do you think China and Taiwan have taken from what we’ve seen happen in Ukraine with the Russian forces, if any?

CHANG: There’s a lot going on there, and of course the failure of the Russian military to meet expectations has given people in Taiwan some hope, but also it’s encouraged people in Taiwan to take care of their own defense, that they can’t rely on the United States. And as a side note, Taiwan has a lot of mountains. It is really good territory for defenders.

But you know, there’s a lot of lessons in general that China and Taiwan have taken away from what’s happened in Ukraine. One of them is the massive failure of deterrence — a big failure of Biden foreign policy. The other thing, though, that I think China is looking at is this invasion really accelerated deglobalization.

Deglobalization, the biggest victim is gonna be China. That means China is, if anything, going to accelerate its invasion plans. I don’t expect it this year because they’ve got a leadership contest going on. But once they settle that — if they do, but once they settle that — then I think that Taiwan’s really at risk.

BUCK: Speaking to Gordon Chang, author of The Great U.S. China Tech War. Gordon, what has North Korea been up to? We’re starting to see more reporting about North Korea, and perhaps this is just a function of Kim Jong-un recognizing that the world’s attention has turned to foreign policy and national security, so he’s going to act out in some way. What’s the latest? There was a test; it wasn’t really a test. What’s gone on here?

CHANG: Well, they did test an intercontinental ballistic missile that has a range to hit the U.S. There is some controversy among missile geeks whether it was a Hwasong-15 — which North Korea tested in November 2017 — or whether it was a new version, the Hwasong-17. But whenever it was, it is able to hit the U.S. Also, they’ve been testing this year hypersonic glide vehicles.

Now, here, this is absolutely fascinating. This is very advanced technology. And the least likely explanation is that the North Koreans developed this on their own. They probably got this from China, because their HGV — as it’s called — looks just like the Chinese one. And the Biden administration has yet to say anything about this, which means that Kim Jong-un sees a big green light.

So here again we’ve got more failure on the part of the White House. And, by the way, it’s not so much the Biden failure. It’s also a Trump failure, because the North Koreas were obviously developing these missiles during North Korea’s self-proclaimed moratorium. We should have been sanctioning China and Russia and North Korea during that time, but we didn’t.

CLAY: Gordon, I read an interesting piece — and I’m curious if you agree with it, and I know you’ve written a lot about this in your book — that what we’re really seeing is not the rise of China but China recognizing that its overall might has reached its apex. And so they are… Because of the population declines, which almost no one is talking about, the One China Policy.

They can’t get people to have two and three kids no matter what they’re doing. Instead of recognizing and believing that China is at its apex and is only going — or is continuing — to decline, do you think Chinese power has reached its apex?

CHANG: I do. You know, I might be the worst person in the world to ask them, because I felt the Communist Party wouldn’t survive by now. Nonetheless, when you look at demography, this is the steepest demographic decline in history in the absence of war or disease that China is gonna face. They’re gonna lose…

According to two Chinese demographers who published a study last fall, they’re gonna lose half of their population in 45 years. You do a little arithmetic, it means that China is maybe one-third as populous by the turn of the century. In other words, it’s about the same number of people in China as in the United States. No society has ever experienced that.

CLAY: That’s wild, by the way. No one else even talks about this, hardly. I read the same sort of studies that you have. Will you just repeat that again? Because I think there’s this idea out there — because there’s 1.3 billion people in China or whatever it is — that their population and influence is gonna continue to grow. But if you look at the one-child policy… What did you just say? Because I think to a lot of people, it’s a jaw dropping statistic.

CHANG: Yeah, two Chinese demographers from Xian, which is central China, published a study which they believe that China will lose one half their population in 45 years. That’s basically 2065, and you start to do some of the arithmetic, you look at the statistics — and China’s population statistics are overstated, but you start looking at these things — and the decline could even be greater than that.

No society has ever gone through that before. We don’t know how China will be able to do it. And as you point out, although China went from a one-child policy at the end of the 2015 to a three-child policy now, people don’t want to procreate. The Communist Party Youth League — this is official, by the way — published a study which showed that 44% of urban Chinese women do not want to get married.

The reason why that’s significant is you can’t get a birth permit in China unless you are married, which means that essentially half of the urban women have taken themselves out of the procreation pool, and this really points to a dramatic decline in population. China, its foreign policy is dependent on intimidating others. You can’t intimidate others if your country is falling apart.

BUCK: Gordon Chang, everybody. Follow him @GordonGChang on Twitter and check out The Great U.S. China Tech War, and also The Coming Collapse of China. Gordon, thanks so much.

CHANG: Thanks, Clay and Buck. I really appreciate it.

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Buck Sexton vs. Viral Jeopardy Sports Questions

31 Mar 2022

CLAY: Let’s have a little fun. We have got Jeopardy questions and answers here for Buck Sexton. Last night on Jeopardy… These have gone viral.

BUCK: Wait, hold on. Sports?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Sports Jeopardy?

CLAY: Sports. Yes.

BUCK: Sports?

CLAY: Well, no, no, this is real Jeopardy.

BUCK: Oh, really?

CLAY: But they had a sports section. And things did not go well for the contestants on Jeopardy last night. By the way, would you like to do Celebrity Jeopardy? Assuming we were famous enough to do Celebrity Jeopardy, would you do it?

BUCK: Oh, yeah. I’d run the table.

CLAY: I’d love to do Celebrity Jeopardy. I wouldn’t want to do regular Jeopardy. I think I’d get dunked on pretty significantly in regular Jeopardy. But I think for a “celebrity,” in quotation marks, if either of us were considered big enough names —

BUCK: That was one of the greatest S&L sketches of all time, by the way, with Sean Connery. “The pen is mightier.”

CLAY: “The rapist — The rapist for 200.” It’s “therapist,” remember? That was amazing. Rest in peace, Sean Connery, by the way. All right. Here we go. Buck Sexton. This is last night, syndicated game show. By the way, they now have Mayim Bialik, I think is how you pronounce her name.

BUCK: Mayim Bialik? Is that right?

CLAY: Yeah. She’s the host now?

BUCK: Blossom.

CLAY: Yeah. Right. She replaced Alex Trebek. She is now the host. If you’re wondering, “Oh, who is this voice?” Alex Trebek died recently, and Blossom from the show, for those of you who are around our age, from the show Blossom, Mayim Bialik is now the host. All right. Here we go. We’re gonna pause it. You can play along in your cars as well. Let’s go with cut 22. Here is the first one.

CONTESTANT: Multisport athletes, 800.

BIALIK: A few career highlights. He won the Heisman at Auburn, ran for 221 yards in one game for the Raiders, and was an American League All-Star.

(beeping sound)

CLAY: Okay. So… Okay. Nobody knew it. All right? So do you have a guess, Buck Sexton, for who this is?

BUCK: I do. I think I know it. And I’ll explain why I know it, though, because it’s not because of sports. Bo Jackson?

CLAY: That is… Well, let’s listen the answer. Here’s 22A, the answer.

BIALIK: Who is Bo Jackson?

CLAY: Boom. You got that one right. Why do you know it?

BUCK: I know it because there was a cartoon — I think it was called Superstars — with Wayne Gretzky, Bo Jackson and Michael Jordan.

CLAY: Oh, yeah. I remember that.

BUCK: It was a Saturday morning cartoon, and I used to watch that cartoon. And I remember that Bo Jackson was the guy who could… You know, Wayne Gretzky only had his hockey stick, and obviously MJ had his basketball. But Bo had the football, the baseball bat. So that’s why I knew that answer, just ’cause that’s the only two sport player I know.

CLAY: I had on my wall posters, like, early nineties, late eighties, whenever it was. There’s an iconic photo of Bo Jackson with a baseball bat on his shoulders on top of his shoulder pads. I’ll bet a lot of our listeners who are around our age remember that. All right. So Bo Jackson. By the way, one of the most devastation injuries in the history of sports:

Bo Jackson getting tackled in a playoff game against, I believe, the Bengals as a running back for the Raiders, which destroyed his career ’cause of a hip injury. All right. Here is another one of the questions from last night that went viral. Here is cut 23 from Jeopardy last night.

CONTESTANT: Multisport athletes, a thousand.

BIALIK: Primetime prime time. In 1992, this man here hit .304 with 14 triples for the Braves and picked off three passes for the Falcons.

BUCK: (pause) Wait. Braves and Falcons?

CLAY: Football and baseball, 1992.

BUCK: I have absolutely no idea.

CLAY: All right. Let’s go to the answer! Cut 23A.

BIALIK: Jackie?

CONTESTANT: Who is Sanders?

BIALIK: Yes, Deion Sanders.

BUCK: Ahhhh. I should have gotten that, actually.

CLAY: Deion Sanders. All right. This one I think you’re definitely going to get. Here is the final multisport athlete. Let’s listen to this.

CONTESTANT: Multisport athletes for two.

BIALIK: He led the NBA in scoring seven straight times, won five MVPs, and hit .202 for a minor league team in 1994, but let’s not dwell on that.

BUCK: Clay, I am an American.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: Who is Michael Jordan?

CLAY: The reason we had to add that one, that’s the lowest level of the Jeopardy. I was like, “He might not get the first two. We’ll at least give him that one.”

BUCK: Oh, I appreciate that. That was a little bonus, a little consolation question?

CLAY: I didn’t think you’d get Bo Jackson. I thought you were gonna whiff on Bo. Nobody on the show, by the way, got Bo Jackson. So everybody last night on Jeopardy missed Bo Jackson. And I thought you’d whiff those two.

BUCK: You may recall that “Bo knows,” and Buck knows.

CLAY: That was a great… They don’t really have great ads campaigns like back in the day, right? “Bo knows.” “Air Jordan.” I don’t even know what the best current athlete marketing campaign is. Can you even think of one that’s really good where you watch it and you’re like… Remember back in the day they had McDonald’s with Larry Bird and Magic Johnson and “Be like Mike” the Jordan commercial for Gatorade?

BUCK: I like the one — I remember this one — Dennis Hopper and Junior Seau, and he’s on a beach or something. He’s like, “Junior Seau, man! He’s coming in like a freight train. Choo-choo! Choo-choo!”

CLAY: I don’t even remember that one.

BUCK: You don’t know this one?

CLAY: Yeah. I remember it now. That was a great ad. I don’t think they really have great sports ads anymore. I can’t think of the last time I saw an ad. Of course, you don’t see a lot of ads now ’cause a lot of people watch streaming services, no commercials. But I don’t remember the last time I saw an ad and I thought, “Oh, man, this is incredible. This is really fun.” Actually, it was probably the Top Gun ad that we played earlier. That had me pretty fired up.

BUCK: Well, that’s a trailer, to be fair.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: You’re talking about a commercial, like a commercial campaign?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Oh, man… Look, I do think these… Are we turning into those guys are like, “When we were kids, the ads were better, the cartoons were better, the movies were better, the music was better”? Are we those people now?

CLAY: Yeah. I think that is really…

BUCK: I had a long drive across Florida from Jacksonville to Tallahassee and listen to, you know, some of the — and I was just like, many of the times in the top 40 radio stuff, I was like, “What ’tis this noise?” It was not for me.

CLAY: No. Look, I think there’s a strong argument that in terms of pop culture that everybody likes, I don’t know that the 1980s are ever going to be topped. Now, there’s a lot of great niche programming, right, if you are a fan of Sopranos or you’re a fan of Game of Thrones or whatever it might be. But they’re not something that everybody can sit down and watch together in the way that Indiana Jones and Star Wars and the Back to the Future films were. Those don’t really, it seems to me, exist now anymore. Maybe the Marvel films.

BUCK: I have been watching the Formula One show on Netflix. We should talk about that another time, ’cause it’s actually really good.

CLAY: It’s really good, I’ve heard.

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31 Mar 2022

BUCK: Biden just spoke about tapping the Strategic Oil Reserve. He’s trying to deal with soaring gas prices. There’s a lot going on here. Gonna spend a little time on it with you. First of all, even Democrats know that high gas prices are bad for their electoral prospects. They can spin a lot of things. But when people see close to all-time high prices at the gas pump, they think to themselves, “Hmm. Think we’ve got a little bit of a problem here.”

And they could be told, “Oh, no, it’s not… Don’t believe your lying eyes or the cash that’s leaving your hand or the credit card bill that’s getting racked up,” but they see the price. And they also are feeling the pain of inflation. And of course, all these things are related. So Biden’s announced he’s gonna tap the Strategic Oil Reserve, put out a million barrels a day here to try to ease the pain.

He’s also talking about — or I should say his conversation among Democrats around — trying to just send people checks in one way or another. I mean, they’ll call it a stimulus payment or whatever. They’ll come up with something. But they’re gonna try to just use the money gun because their policies ain’t gonna get it done. One thing they’re really against still is increasing domestic energy production.

This is where you find the ideological issues that Democrats have with things. They recognize the political challenges of high gas prices. They know that they gotta do something or else they’re in big trouble in the midterms. They’re probably in big trouble in any way, especially how bad it’s gonna be. But here, for example, is Biden proposing to fine companies who have “unused” oil permits. Speaking of Central Planning being crappy, here’s another version.

CLAY: (laughing)

Pres. Biden is calling for a ‘use it or lose it’ policy when it comes to oil companies sitting on ‘9,000 unused, but approved, permits for production’ — adding that companies should pay fees for the 1 million acres of land ‘they are hoarding without production’ pic.twitter.com/KjWirKCQPO

— NowThis (@nowthisnews) March 31, 2022

BUCK: This only sounds good, Clay, to somebody who is honestly like a little socialist who had no idea how a business actually functions, how investment in business infrastructure works. Is there even gas on these used leases? You say, oh, well, if there’s not, they won’t care about losing it. Okay.

But is it worth, at the prices right now that gas costs, for them to put the investment — is it a two-year or three-year investment process? It’s not as easy as just, “Why aren’t you drilling in the places that we told you you could drill?” If they could make money, I have a feeling, Clay, they’d been drilling there.

CLAY: Well, and also let’s just… This is all politics, right? Six months, 180 million barrels. That’s just in time for the election. Right? I mean, it’s so transparent. Biden has got 40% approval rate. The vast majority of the American public holds him responsible for inflation. The place where place hits people most viscerally… Buck, over the weekend I went and filled up my car. I was out to Little League stadium and my dad went to watch the games too.

And so my dad was in the car while I was pumping up the car, and on our drive out he said, “Hey,” and this is why dads and moms are great. Every time I see my dad or my mom, Buck, they give me like 20 bucks, as if…

BUCK: (laughing)

CLAY: I’m 42 years old now, but my dad’s always like, “Hey, you need a little cash. Here’s $25 or whatever.” But he said, “Hey, you need to make sure you fill up where we’re going to the Little League stadium because the gas is gonna be 40 cents the cheaper on that side of town 45 miles out of town compared to where you live now.”

It’s still over a hundred dollars, and my dad couldn’t stop talking about the fact that it cost over a hundred dollars to fill up my car. This is the place where people viscerally respond. It’s not a coincidence, Buck, that Biden is specifically releasing oil from the strategic reserve for the six months leading up to the midterms. He’s trying to do whatever he can for those six months to make gas prices lower.

Now, hopefully — hopefully — the Ukraine-Russia situation is going to get resolved and whatever excess is in the gas price market will just start to come down because this is a real tax on people who can afford it the least. But it’s a transparent political move that is designed to make people think things are not as bad as they are.

BUCK: Yeah, it’s really just like the government saying, “Hey, we’re just gonna send you some money every month now,” because the supply and demand issue is what’s setting the price where it is so instead of actually dealing with it in a meaningful way they’re saying, “Well, we’ve just set aside this oil before; so that’s federal government property, and we’re just gonna give it to you now.”

So you don’t realize that we’re gonna be back at the same supply and demand issue the moment that they stop, most likely. Who knows what the production will be in the future, but it’s very possible. But, Clay, then that also brings me to, you know, Pelosi, for whom the price of gas… Nancy Pelosi couldn’t tell you the price of gas off the top much her head, obviously. Hasn’t pumped her own gas, I would wager, in 50 years.

CLAY: Oh, that’s a great question.

BUCK: At least 40 years. She hasn’t pumped her own gas in —

CLAY: “When was the last time Nancy Pelosi pumped her own gas?” is a fantastic question.

BUCK: — yeah, at least 40 years, I’d say, maybe 50. And so, you know, she would probably be like, “Gas? That’s like two bits.”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: She’d pull out a couple quarters, and then we have Pelosi also making it clear to everybody, she doesn’t know the price of gas; she doesn’t know what a gallon of milk costs. I can assure you of that, too, ’cause the servants bring her her milk. And here she is telling everybody we cannot increase domestic gas production — good heavens, no — ’cause that’s gonna hurt the climate change issue.

Nancy Pelosi: We cannot “use [high gas prices] as an excuse” to produce more American energy pic.twitter.com/txlUvEYVmS

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) March 31, 2022

CLAY: So Nancy Pelosi is ridiculous. She’s making arguments that are the exact opposite, by the way, Buck, of what Biden said because Biden said we’re gonna fine people who aren’t producing more oil, and now Nancy Pelosi is saying we can’t produce more oil because it will cause an issue for the planet. Biden also continues this awful argument, the first person I saw who made it, Buck, was Mayor Pete.

Mayor Pete said (summarized), “Hey, if gas prices are too high, what you need to do is go buy an electric vehicle,” even though electric vehicles at best are $50,000 a year, and if you are struggling with the increased costs of gas, you’re unlikely to be able to buy a brand-new vehicle that’s an electric car. Biden says, though (summarized), “Hey, if you’re struggling with gas prices,” he just said this, Buck, “What you need to do is” what? “Buy an electric vehicle.” Listen.

President Biden: “Today I’m authorizing the release of 1 million barrels per day for the next six months, over 180 million barrels, from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. This is a wartime bridge to increase oil supply until production ramps up later this year.” pic.twitter.com/RFpk4tN3n7

— CSPAN (@cspan) March 31, 2022

BUCK: That’s not gonna deal with the problem. We want more American domestic natural gas and oil production. That actually helps the problem.

CLAY: Yeah, no doubt. And here is that cut, cut 28, that says how much a typical driver will save. Just buy an electric car, guys. If you’re struggling at the pump, Biden’s got the answer.

Worried about gas prices? Joe Biden says just buy an electric car:

“A typical driver will save about $80 a month from not having to pay gas at the pump.” pic.twitter.com/xMZuYbFRqc

— TheBlaze (@theblaze) March 31, 2022

CLAY: If they just by an electric car, Buck, everything will be fine.

BUCK: I still hold to this, Clay. I think “Shut up about the high gas prices, peasant, and buy a Tesla” is not a great slogan for it is Democrats going into the midterms. I’m just… I don’t want to help them too much, but I think they should come up with something else.

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31 Mar 2022

CLAY: Fox News has a story today. Today is, what, supposed to be transgender awareness day or something like that, if I’m not mistaken?

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: Is that correct?

BUCK: Something like. Exactly. Blinken tweeted it out. Just also throw in the mix here, Clay, that as of April 11th, “U.S. citizens will be able to select X as their gender marker on passports.” So now it’s going on official federal documents, you can go nongender.

On Transgender Day of Visibility, we recognize the achievements and resilience of transgender, nonbinary, and gender non-conforming persons worldwide. We continue to work to ensure their ability to live authentically, safely, and with dignity. #TDOV

— Secretary Antony Blinken (@SecBlinken) March 31, 2022

CLAY: Well, doesn’t that seem like a potential security issue to not have to note your sex on your passport?

BUCK: Of course. It certainly makes it easier to engage in fraud and, you know, to use passports for people who aren’t supposed to use them. But beyond that — or just in addition, I should say — it is Transgender Day of Visibility. That’s the name.

CLAY: Okay. That is what it is called today. Okay. So Fox News has got a story up, and as I read this it got more and more crazy to me. This is the headline: “Biden Administration Endorses Transgender Youth Sex-Change Operations, Top Surgery, Hormone Therapy — The White House is encouraging gender reassignment surgery, puberty blockers, hormone therapy for transgender minors.”

I just want to say this. I’m trying to think how to say it in a way that is succinct so I’m gonna do my best. It’s child abuse in my opinion to change the gender of a minor. The idea that you would be removing and changing the sex, the genitals of a 12-year-old is completely indefensible madness, period, okay? I’ve got three kids.

Anyone out there who has kids — and if you don’t have kids, think about in your own life. How rational are young kids when it comes to making major life choices? Buck, we don’t allow kids under 21 to buy a beer legally. And we are going to allow minors to decide what gender they are and to have sex-change operations?

BUCK: It’s actually worse than that, Clay, because they’re really advocating for this, meaning you’re supposed to celebrate this. The whole point of the Biden administration putting out these papers is so that everyone knows when a 12-year-old or a 10-year-old now says, “I think I’m a girl” when they’re a boy, the response is supposed to be, “Great!

“Now let’s talk about how we can give you gender changing hormone therapy,” as well as — as you pointed out — “top therapy,” which is — let’s be very clear about this — the removal of healthy female breast tissue. When we’re talking about the “bottom therapy” is a removal of healthy male genitalia in the case of transitioning to a woman. There is a… I’m just going to say this.

There is a psychological condition — it does exist, it is in the literature — where people believe that they should not have a limb that they do, and they want it to be surgically removed. Now, we recognize that… When someone says, “I shouldn’t have this left arm, I don’t want it,” we recognize that as mental illness. No doctor is going to say, “I will put you under anesthesia and remove your healthy left arm.”

Let’s be very clear. When you’re talking about some of the therapies for minors that the Biden administration is putting out here, you are removing healthy tissue. You are engaged in mutilation of a healthy body, and the long-term consequences… This is on the NIH! I’m not on crazy, right-wing, doesn’t approve of trans.com or something. This is on the NIH right now, Clay.

“As a consequence of pharmacological treatment received by patients who have transitioned, there are unintended systemic changes that may occur. These include increased cardiovascular risk in both trans women and trans men, significant increase of body mass index,” a lot of weight gain, “and systolic and diastolic blood pressure in trans men, osteoporosis at the lumbar spine and distal arm in trans women.

“Adverse effects include venous thromboembolism, fractures, cardiovascular disease, stroke, and hormone-dependent cancers.” Those are for adults trans patients, the risks that they put out there. Think about this. That’s based on… This is just pharmacological treatment. This isn’t even the removal of like male gonads, for example. This isn’t even the stuff they’re talking about. They want to do this to kids, Clay?

CLAY: It’s child abuse, and look, if you reach the age of majority, and you decide that you want to pay to be the gender that is different than the one that you were born from, that is your choice, right? But if you’re doing it to a 10-year-old, and we’re going to allow this to happen, it’s child abuse. It shouldn’t be permitted.

And I would just come back again and again to the reason why we even have ages of majority and ages of minority is because we believe until you reach the age of 18, you aren’t even responsible for the choices that you make. That’s why we have juvenile courts, because you may make the decision to rob a convenience store when you’re 14, and we don’t want that judgment — that error — that you made to stick with you for the rest of your life.

We believe that by the time you become an adult, you can make a different choice. The idea that we would allow this to occur at all, the idea that there are doctors that would do this, that there are parents that would do this, is pure madness. It’s madness to me that it exists. The fact that a president and his political party would be advocating for it, I don’t understand.

I mean, Buck, what percentage of Americans do you…? I mean, ’cause this what I look at it. I don’t even understand. There’s no way that Joe Biden actually believes this, right? Let’s start here. Joe Biden, there’s no way that he believes that a 10-year-old should have surgery… I mean, he’s 78 years old —

BUCK: Joe Biden never really believed anything. He does whatever the Democrat Party wants him to do. But, yes, you’re right. As a person, if you pushed him aside and asked him, no way.

CLAY: I would love for Joe Biden to get asked the question about the Penn transgender swimmer, which I haven’t seen him asked. There’s no way that he… I believe he’s a sports fan. There’s no way that he agrees with that. But to think that a 10-year-old, and to think that a major American political party could put this out and be endorsing it? I can’t imagine that there’s more than 15 or 20% of Americans that would even countenance this. It makes me sick to even think about this happening to a 10-year-old.

BUCK: It’s the hard left, but they run the party now unfortunately. They run the Democrat Party. They call the shots within the Democrat Party, which is why we’re seeing a Biden administration that is so just disastrous in its results because there’s an irrational cabal of leftists that are really the ones who actually push this party — and, by the way, it’s not just elected officials.

It’s activists. It’s media entities. It’s social media companies. But, Clay, look at what’s gone on even just in the last couple of weeks. Suddenly, there’s this enormous outcry against preventing teachers in Florida from talking about trans and “gender affirmation” and sexuality and all that stuff for kindergarteners — and weren’t not exaggerating.

Kindergarten, first grade, second grade. There’s a huge outcry from the left about this, and they have to say the “don’t say gay” bill which is just… That’s not even a thing. It doesn’t exist. But they’re trying to strike it down; they’re trying to attack it and everybody who supports it — including the 52% of Democrats in the state of Florida who support it, by the way.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: It’s 52% of Democrats in the polling. But when you look at also, then, at what happened with Disney, they came out against it. And then you had people giving speeches. Everybody in Disney’s supposed to watch this video, I suppose, where they’re hearing the chief president — or chief content officer, the president of content — say that she has a pansexual and transgender — you know, one of each — child, and how they want to push this ideology on children.

They want this to be something that your kids when they’re watching cartoons are being programmed in. And then today, the Biden administration releases documents encouraging gender-reassignment surgery and hormone treatments for minors specifically, for kids, for teenagers, for preteens. How can you not see this, right, and how can you not put all these things together and say:

“There really is an agenda here to brainwash children and use them as pawns in this trans agenda that the left has adopted wholesale.” I have friends… I’ve talked about the this before, Clay. I have friends in the gay and lesbian community who are seeing this, and they’re saying, “What is going on here?” It’s all trans now. Everything from the left is about the trans agenda.

CLAY: You’re right.

BUCK: It’s all about transgenderism. There’s not even, you know — and the entities, the organizations that used to be about equal rights for gays, equal rights for lesbians, that’s now all fallen away. They’re all-in on this trans agenda and specifically for kids! And if you even talk about some of the long-term effects, if you do a study of rapid-onset gender dysphoria, which was the term used in that Brown University study of little kids who are around other transgender kids suddenly become much more likely to be transgender by a massive percentage and proportion.

Maybe that’s because kids are impressionable and don’t have a framework of judgment, to your point about who’s a minor and why we have the laws we do, and the left wants to go after them and say, “Oh, you’re 12? You’re gonna be a woman? Let’s actually do bottom and top surgery, put you on hormone therapy, and hope we haven’t ruined your life.” By the way, sterility is another huge risk from these procedures.

CLAY: Of course, and I just come back to: Let’s think about the choices that we allow minors to make. You can’t buy a beer until you’re 21. In theory, you can’t buy a ticket to an R-rated movie, I think, until you’re 18. You can’t serve in the military until you’re 18 years old. You can’t buy a gun. You can’t even rent a car ’til, what, Buck, you’re like 25?

You can’t drive a car ’til you’re 16, and we’re gonna let a 10-year-old decide to have their genitals removed? Just think about this. Think about this. For everybody out there driving around, this is a position that is utterly indefensible. Again, if you are of age, if you are 18 or older, and you want to make that choice, I think that you should have the right to make that choice.

There can be all sorts of debates about that for adults. People can have different opinions on that. I don’t understand how there is any other opinion other than, “This is child abuse” when it comes to 10-year-olds removing body parts to try to make them another gender.

BUCK: It’s all essentially a part of a children can determine this, because they want to make it seem as though children are born a certain way and need to have “affirmation.” It used to be “gender transition.” Now they call it “gender affirmation,” and so the younger the affirmations are occurring, the more it seems as though this isn’t a psychological condition or choice — which, by the way, the only basis for this is psychological, right?

They’re not talking about gender transitioning people who are born intersex. That’s not the discussion or debate. The Biden White House put this out today. They’re doubling down on this agenda right now, given all we’ve seen can Disney and the bill in Florida and everything else. It tells you a lot, folks.

CLAY: It makes me wonder, too, what percentage of kids do you think end up regretting the choice, right? When you’re 10, if you suddenly get your genitals chopped off, how many people when they’re 20, they’re like, you know, I wish I hadn’t done that?

BUCK: By the way, unfortunately —

CLAY: I bet it’s a huge percentage.

BUCK: — there’s a lot of woke cowardice in the medical community now as we saw all throughout covid.

CLAY: Oh, yeah, of course.

BUCK: — not with the doctors who are doing their best. I’ll talking about the doctors who are blue checks going on TV and saying, “Triple mask your kids in school ’cause I worship Fauci.” The medical community is full of a lot of cowardice on this issue too. They will not speak the truth about the long-term consequences and effects of this transition process and what the 10-year, 15, 20-year outlook is, Clay. It is bleak, bleak for many, many people who do this, from a health and mental health perspective — and that used to be well known, but now we’re not allowed to talk about it anymore.

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31 Mar 2022

CLAY: Buck, this morning I was on Fox & Friends — thought I did a decent job — go back downstairs, making the kids breakfast, sit down to check my email, and I get an email from a woman named Joanne, I believe. Let me see here. Yeah, Joanne emails me. Joanne might be listening right now. Joanne. The subject line, Buck, is just, “Appearance.” All right? So I click on it. Just “Appearance.”

She says, “Please shave and fix your shirt collars. You always look unkept,” and so I retweeted that this morning and over a hundred people have responded giving different theories and responses to how I look, and this also is building out of when we hung out with Ron DeSantis.

I put up a photo with Ron DeSantis and I texted you and I was like, “If you want to be entertained…” I’m just getting crushed in the comments. So, Buck, like, right before we’re going on the air my wife is now going through reading all of the critiques of my appearances and flagging the ones that she agrees with and sending them to me.

BUCK: That’s real love, though. She wants what’s best for you, Clay. She wants to make sure the Clay train stays on the tracks.

CLAY: It is absolutely true, but I think it would stun people how much attention is paid not to anything that you say on television at all but just to at what you wear, the cosmetic — and we’re dudes. Incidents like either one of us are like, “Oh, my God,” you know, like we’re not fashion models or anything. It staggered me the first time I went on television. Almost no one cared what I said. Everybody was like, “Why were you wearing that tie? Why were you wearing that color suit?” like, everything. “Why you have those shoes?”

BUCK: For everyone who thinks you go on TV in the news world and it’s all just sort of fun, first of all, it’s like not glamorous really at all. For anybody who knows the business, you’re kind of kind of just running into a place, trying to get the microphone. You particularly feeling unglamorous when you go on TV and this used to happen to me particularly when I used to go particularly on CNN. Clay, you’ve done some CNN —

CLAY: Back in the day.

BUCK: — although not a little while. The things people say… There are things that are so mean that I actually have laughed because it was so mean that it was funny. Did you have one…? I remember I went on once; I think I was talking about some kind of CIA stuff overseas, national security, not politics. I wasn’t like, “Oh, I love Trump and like I hate the commies,” which while true is not what I always talk about. And I came off, and someone told me that I looked like Mrs. Doubtfire, which I got to say… I was like (laughing) almost pulled a muscle.

CLAY: Really funny.

BUCK: It was so mean but so funny at the same time. I never forgot that one. I was like, Mrs. Doubtfire.

CLAY: That is perfect. One day I was on and I remember somebody just wrote. Somebody just wrote… I had just done a hit, and it was — I don’t know — like talking about who’s gonna win the Alabama-Auburn game, right, whatever was it. And someone just wrote, “You are really fat and ugly, and also you have the worst bags under your eyes of anyone I’ve ever seen.” And it was just so direct and just negative. And I just remember looking at note… I was just picking the winner of the Alabama-Auburn game. It’s not like, you know… I didn’t even think that much about anything else.

BUCK: The worst is when they suck you in with something that’s a little nice first. I remember once I got… Again, the CNN stuff used to be… The Fox audience, it’s like I’m talking to my family. It’s like we’re all hanging out in our pajamas watching a movie together. The Fox audience is fantastic, right, but on CNN once again some random woman wrote in to me probably, you know, I don’t know any —

CLAY: Might have been Joanne. Might have been Joanne.

BUCK: Might have been Joanne. It’s what she does. And she was like, “You do have nice hair. However, you have to lose about 10 to 15 pounds and then we could see your jaw line and you’d have a nice face too.”

CLAY: That is fantastic.

BUCK: I was like, “Wow. So specific.” It’s like I’m getting an email from my plastic surgeon.

CLAY: That is really funny. I remember I bought a new suit — and my wife will remember this. When I got hired by Fox, I was like, “Oh, man, I gotta go get a suit.” The suit was like a thousand dollars, whatever, a lot of money for me to be spending at the time. Still a lot of money to be spending on a suit. And I thought it looked pretty good, and I remember I wore it on air, and they had a full body shot.

Now @LaraTravis is reading the comments critiquing my fashion choices and sending me screenshots of people she agrees with. pic.twitter.com/YSIIENXTJh

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) March 31, 2022

And somebody just, like, grabbed a picture of me, and they were like, “How is it possible for you to look more like a box?” And, like, the way that the suit was cut but also, like, I did look just like a box, and I’m like I spent a thousand dollars on this suit, and it is like somebody had screenshotted me and sent me an image and I just looked like a box, right? I mean, there was no, like, waist on the suit, and I’m here looking at it and being like, “This is the most expensive suit I’ve ever owned and looks ridiculous.”

BUCK: So just anybody who’s ever thinking about a career in media, just remember they’re the great folks that we got to see, for example, down in Houston. Our extended family listening to the show and that makes it all worthwhile. There are also trolls out there who no matter who you are, no matter what you’re saying on TV, they’ll just find a way to drill in and say the meanest — but kind of sometimes funny but usually just mean — stuff you could ever imagine. So, hey, Clay, it keeps us humble, right? Like, you know, someone’s telling me every day that I’m fat, stupid, and should go jump off a bridge, it’s like, “Oh.” Can’t get high on yourself.

CLAY: Hey, maybe you could become the next vice president. Might be even better.

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BUCK: The Hunter Biden laptop story is getting bigger and bigger because suddenly there’s a shift. The media isn’t all circling the wagons and saying, “It’s not real. It’s a conspiracy theory.” They can’t anymore because the New York Times, Washington Post — the high temples of left-wing journo-ism — have decided that this is actually real. Here’s just a taste, a smattering, if you will, of corporate Democrat media waking up to the story.

MICHAEL STRAHAN: Intensifying investigation! The probe into the tax affairs and financial dealings of the president’s son, Hunter Biden, is heating up.

TONY DOKOUPIL: New information this morning about an ongoing investigation into President Biden’s son, Hunter.

CATHERINE HERRIDGE: The federal investigation into Hunter Biden’s business practices is broader than previously known.

PIERRE THOMAS: A grand jury in Wilmington has heard from a parade of witnesses about payments Hunter Biden received while on the board of the Ukrainian gas company, Burisma.

WHIT JOHNSON: Testifying before a grand jury about the president’s son and his business dealings in Ukraine and elsewhere.

JOHN BERMAN: Talking about the investigation — the federal investigation — into Hunter Biden, which is real.

STEVE DOOCY: The walls around Hunter Biden closing in as investigations carry on. The mainstream media starting to take notice.

BUCK: “Starting to take notice,” Clay. Let’s start with this. Why?

CLAY: Why, indeed. Let’s start with this, Buck Sexton. Are you nervous? Every day, you’re getting a little bit more nervous. I can taste the sizzling wagyu, maybe even higher… What’s higher end than wagyu steak?

BUCK: I don’t think there is. When they price it by the ounce, you know your steak is gonna be really expensive. That’s how they get you, ’cause no one does the math.

CLAY: We’re gonna price it by the ounce — that’s right — and I’m gonna have a lot of ounces. But let me just say, the reason why this story’s coming out, Buck, this is where I started reading this —

BUCK: The third prosecution doesn’t count, Clay, ’cause that’s what I think they’ll do, meaning they don’t actually bring charges. They keep the opening there to do charges at a later date if he messes up again. Just want to be clear on that ’cause that’s how I think they have an out.

CLAY: As soon as this story came out in the New York Times, I came on and I said, the New York Times is trying to get ahead of this. ‘Cause here’s what these news organizations — that are already embarrassed by the way they’ve covered this — don’t want to happen, Buck. They don’t want to tell all their audience, “There’s nothing to the Hunter Biden story!

“There’s nothing to it. There’s nothing to it,” and then, boom! What if an indictment happened? Then they’ve got to explain how they claimed that there was nothing to any of the Hunter Biden laptop, how it was all fake, how it was all “Russian disinformation,” and then they suddenly have to drop a bombshell on their audiences, which is embarrassing.

But worse than the embarrassment, Buck, it makes them look dumb and it makes them look out of touch. So what you often see in stories like these is a slow tiptoe up to, “Oh! By the way, this is kind of a significant story. Oh! Let’s all find a way to work our way back into covering this,” and even the clips we just played it’s, “Oh! Yeah, by the way, there’s a grand jury investigating this dude.”

And what you’re seeing at the Washington Post, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, New York Times, all of these places are suddenly acknowledging — and I’m looking forward to talking with Miranda Devine about this, ’cause she was part of the group that broke this story and she wrote the book Laptop from Hell. I’m interested what she thinks on this.

But it seems quite clear that after 18 months of stonewalling and pretending there was nothing to this, they now are letting their audience know there is something to this and more is going to come of it. I think it also ties in with Joe Biden’s 40% approval rating. I’m not sure, Buck, they’d be covering it aggressively if his approval rating was 65%.

BUCK: So, here’s what I’m trying to line up as we do our analysis of this, Clay, because something has changed. Nothing changed in terms of events.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: News stories came out that have essentially said, “Yeah,” and now I do think that it’s the federal investigation of Hunter Biden that is still ongoing and is looking like it is serious. When you accept millions… I just want to establish this for everybody, ’cause it was the same… I’m worried we’re gonna have — what is it, Yogi Berra said — “deja vu all over again”?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I’m worried that’s what we’re heading for. That’s a sports guy, right?

CLAY: Yeah, yeah. Great catcher for the New York Yankees.

BUCK: Thank you. I appreciate it. So I’m worried that it’s gonna be like the Hillary situation. I had a TS, top secret clearance. I had to go through all the training and all the stuff about being the classified information handler. What Hillary Clinton did fell clearly under the statute for mishandling classified information with recklessness, because it was over a hundred times she had sent — on an open server — classified information.

They just pretended like the statute didn’t really matter, and that was because Hillary was so important to them. What I’m trying to see here is — or what I want everyone to understand here is — that Hunter Biden accepting money and not declaring it, millions of dollars and not declaring it is bright red letter, “You go to jail,” right? This is “you have violated the law” stuff.

So they’re gonna have to find some way around it, and I’m just… I’m trying to think of what it is. With Hillary they basically said there was no criminal state of mind, there was no “mens rea,” and Comey basically made it up as he went along. Clay, how do you think, assuming that I’m right and the millions of dollars now…? And I know you think that prosecutors actually are gonna bring charges.

Of course. We have our bet. We’ll keep talking about that. But is there a legal way they could get it? How do you get millions of dollars from a corrupt Chinese company that’s trying to buy you off and buy access, not declare it, and not face criminal charges from the IRS? You know what I mean? What is the possible explanation?

CLAY: Well, first of all, remember they get Al Capone for tax evasion.

BUCK: Yes!

CLAY: Which is a great line, but for people out there who remember: Al Capone was into all sorts shady, gangland activities; they managed to catch him through tax evasion. So they have Hunter Biden dead to rights on tax evasion. Dead to rights. And the fact that he has repaid, allegedly, a million dollars in back taxes that he owed doesn’t mean that he did not violate the law.

Here’s what I think they’re gonna do, Buck. I think what we’re already starting to see: They are going to “iso” Hunter Biden off and argue that he’s not an American politician, not an employee, not involved in government at all, and they’re going to take out Hunter in some way. I don’t think he’s gonna go to jail for 50 years or anything like that.

BUCK: No. By the way, and he wouldn’t for tax evasion. Tax evasion is usually a few years.

CLAY: There’s other elements there. I think what they will do is they will argue, “Well, Hunter, while he was under the influence of drugs and alcohol, was not taking great control of his finances.”

BUCK: That’s right.

CLAY: “Money was rolling in.”

BUCK: It was an accident.

CLAY: “He was a mess. He inadvertently failed to pay his taxes.”

BUCK: That’s right.

CLAY: I do think that there will be some minor charges, right, that he will plead guilty to. I think they’ll indict him, and I think they’ll ultimately end up agreeing to some sort of minor charges. I do believe he’ll be indicted. But what they’re gonna try to do, Buck, is wall off Joe Biden.

And so that’s what I think the media is already starting to do. Hunter Biden, right — maybe even Jim Biden, his brother — but they’re gonna try to avoid the president. “There’s no connection to Joe Biden impropriety.” I think that’s what they’re going to say.

BUCK: The thing they’re worried about — we’ll save this ’cause I want to get to this with Miranda Devine of the New York Post in the next hour — when we come back to this. But the “10% for The Big Guy.” That’s not you; that’s not me.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: We know who The Big Guy is. So we should come back to that, because you’re right. They’ll wall that off. But, Clay, this is the president’s son.

CLAY: I agree.

BUCK: So I’m just gonna say, my contention here is that he broke the law and that they’ll do something. But if he does not face prison time for what he did, he is getting special treatment as the president’s son. If he doesn’t face real criminal charges and plead to a felony of some kind, right — a misdemeanor or something — this is a joke.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: That means that he’s getting special treatment. If he did face a real federal criminal charge, let’s say, and had to plead guilty, Joe Biden pardons him, in my — and we’re playing this out now. Joe Biden pardons him. He’s a father, and this is the son, and he’s the president.

CLAY: Yeah, and he’s probably not gonna run for reelection. That would be a sign. He’s not gonna pardon him if he’s running for reelection.

BUCK: If he pardons him, he’s politically wounded, no question about it, because now all the stuff about, “Oh, Biden will bring back normalcy and won’t be corrupt!” The media will try, but it will be pathetic. And, remember, we’re trying to get sane people, independents, persuadables to vote Republican. We’re never gonna… There’s 20 or 30% of the country that are still triple masking outside alone. We’re never gonna reach them.

But is there a possibility your mind that he lets Hunter do six months, and then actually gets sympathy as the president who is so letter of the law that he would let his own son go to a halfway house or something for six months? Remember, Wesley Snipes, I think, didn’t pay $40 million. He had $40 million he didn’t pay money on. I was a Wesley Snipes fan back in the nineties. Great movies. Major League. I thought Blade was very underrated.

CLAY: Blade was really good.

BUCK: I think he got three years in federal prison or four years in federal prison, something like that. Hunter will probably be facing six months. Do you think there’s a possibility he would let him serve his time?

CLAY: The way it would play out, I think it’s unlikely to be resolved before Joe Biden’s term as president was basically over. In other words, if they bring charges against him, it’s going to get dragged out, right? One of the top strategies would immediately be of a defense attorney, “Let’s drag this on as long as we possibly can,” probably, and especially if you knew that the president was your dad and he was going to be stepping down in January of 2025, I guess, right?

This is presuming that Biden is not going to run for reelection in 2024, and that he would be able to offer some form of leniency that he would give him a pardon. But here’s the deal. What becomes even more fascinating about the pardon idea is, if they don’t wall off Joe Biden, then you could make the strong argument that the reason he’s pardoning his son is to avoid criminal charges, potentially, himself. And then he’s trying to pardon himself, which becomes this really kind of fascinating Rubik’s Cube of legal analysis.

BUCK: And we would be full circle, and everybody should remember this, to where the Democrats were under Trump.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: They accused Trump of what their candidate and now the Democrat president has actually done or is in the midst of right now, I shouldn’t say.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: The Biden family really is corrupt.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Hunter really is corrupt and there does seem to be an influence-peddling scheme meant to not just to enrich the Biden family in general but perhaps even the 10% for The Big Guy, Joe Biden himself. They’re gonna fight tooth and nail, by the way, in the media to prevent people from coming to that conclusion no matter what the evidence is.

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