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Trump: Send Troops to the Border, Not Ukraine

22 Feb 2022

BUCK: How worried are you that the Biden administration might get dragged into the actual military conflict in Ukraine if it escalates?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, I’d rather see them send soldiers to our southern border. I’d rather see them… In three weeks, you could finish it. They won’t even let Texas use our military, which is all bought, sitting there waiting to be put up. It could have been erected in less than three weeks. It could have taken two and a half years to get started ’cause we had to win 11 lawsuits. I’d rather see our southern border protected. But I don’t like the idea he’s sending a small number of troops.

It’s a joke compared to what the other side does. You know, he sends 3,000 troops I heard this morning, 3,000 troops. What’s that gonna do except get in trouble? No, I would like to see our southern border protected and they are handling Ukraine so badly. Remember — I put something out this morning — Russia is becoming very rich because the oil price has been driven up so much and that’s their primary source of income.

So much that those army tanks you see going back and forth all over the place, that’s peanuts compared to the amount of money they’re making: $40 a barrel when I was there, $1.86 a gallon of gasoline and now you have some places where it’s over $7, and it’s going up a lot higher.

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Trump: Putin Wanted Ukraine, I Said “You Can’t Do It”

22 Feb 2022

PRESIDENT TRUMP: I knew Putin very well. I got along with him great. He liked me. I liked him. I mean, you know, he’s a tough cookie, got a lot of the great charm and a lot of pride. But the way he — and he loves his country, you know? He loves his country. He’s acting a little differently I think now.

I think he sees this opportunity. I knew that he always wanted Ukraine. I used to talk to him about it. I said, “You can’t do it. You’re not gonna do it.” But I could see that he wanted it. I used to ask him. We used to talk about it at length. I think nobody probably knows him better in terms of the discussions that we have or that we’re having this morning. So, I knew him very well. I got to know him. I got to know President Xi. By the way, China is gonna be next.

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Trump on Biden in 2024: “I Don’t Think He’s Going to Run”

22 Feb 2022

BUCK: Mr. President, before we talk to you about your possible political aspirations for the future and what you’re planning for the country, I want to ask you to look across the table for a moment at the Democrats. Clay and I have an ongoing discussion on the show about who is really going to be the standard-bearer for them the next time around? It feels like Joe Biden…

You look at the polls, you see him on TV, there’s a recognition this is a guy who, to say he’s lost a step I think is kind, putting it gently. Clay and I have talked about possible other contenders stepping in for him, maybe the vice president, maybe somebody else, even. What do you think…? Who do you think will be the Democrat nominee or the Democrat standard-bearer the next time around? Is Joe Biden gonna run again or not?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: So, I don’t think so. I’m watching what you’re watching, and I just don’t think so. I hope he does great for the country. I think it’s too late because I don’t think he can do great for the country. There’s been so much damage done that I think if he turned out to be George Washington and Abraham Lincoln combined, I think the net result is so bad, I just don’t think he can do it.

It’s so far behind, what they’ve done on energy, what they’ve done at the border, what they’ve done… The destruction to this country has been so massive. I don’t think he’s going to run, or I don’t think he’s — you know, he could run and maybe somebody would run against him, and that’s very rare, that something like that would happen. She doesn’t seem to be very popular in the polls. You know, there was the polls of me against him, and I’m leading by a lot.

CLAY: Yes.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: But I was leading. I thought I, you know, was leading a lot the day of the election, too, right. I was. But you gotta be very careful with the election. You’re gotta make sure the vote count is honest. So, I don’t see him running. I see her running.

CLAY: Meaning Kamala.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yeah.

BUCK: ‘Cause Hillary’s —

CLAY: That’s the other one.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: I guess you can. You can include her in the she category, right. It’s possible. I don’t see Kamala. She started off at 10 or 11 and she was hot, and by the time they went like four or five weeks she was down to nothing. That’s why it was such an unusual choice, and there was nobody meaner to Joe Biden than her. She called him everything.

CLAY: No doubt.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: She was calling him names that were horrible. So I said nobody could choose her, and they chose her. But, you know, she was going to reverse. Usually, you choose somebody that starts off at 1 and ends up at 15 or 20, you know, going like a rocket ship up. So, they didn’t… So, I think she’s gonna certainly put a play in. It’s possible, but I watched Hillary the other day. I just don’t know if she has the energy. I don’t know that she has the energy. I watched her. Look, we had questions when she fell into the car.

CLAY: Yes.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: When her shoes fell off, when she couldn’t lift her foot up in, she couldn’t walk, she kept falling down going into the airplanes. Remember a lot of famous pictures — and then people put the golf ball and the baseball and all that stuff in those pictures. You remember, they blamed me for it. It wasn’t me.

CLAY: Oh, yeah, right.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: They blamed me for it. But I don’t see it. But she’s a very devious person. All you have to do is take a look at Durham report

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Nevada Senate Candidate Adam Laxalt with C&B at Mar-a-Lago

22 Feb 2022

CLAY: We are live at Mar-a-Lago, about to be joined by former Nevada attorney general Adam Laxalt, who is one of the top candidates to help Republicans split back the Senate. We’ll talk with him in just a moment. I want to give you a little bit of a detail here, Joe Biden addressing the nation said that — I’m reading, quote — Putin is, quote, “setting up a rationale to take more territory by force to go much further.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.” So we certainly will be talking more and more about the situation in Ukraine in day, next day, maybe days into the future. But we bring in now live here at Mar-a-Lago Trump-endorsed candidate in the great state of Nevada, Adam Laxalt. What are you saying? First of all, thanks for joining us here at Mar-a-Lago.

Not a bad place to be, although there’s a lot of pretty impressive places in your state as well, these incredible edifices certainly in Las Vegas and beyond. What are you hearing from people on the ground as you get enmeshed in your Senate campaign? And for people out there who may not live in your state, what is the larger Senate picture, and why does your race matter so much when it comes to Republicans taking back control of the Senate?

LAXALT: Sure. Let me just say that, first, thanks on for having me on, guys.

BUCK: Good to be here.

LAXALT: This is a great venue. Pretty cool to do a show here. You know, I’ve just never seen anything like it. You know, the average voter in all corners of my state… We’re a very big state, for your listeners. You can drive, three, four hundred miles in between counties. There’s such an acute sense of anger, fear, concern. People really think that the America that we all love, the America that has made us — the values that have made us — the greatest nation on earth, that they’re on the ropes.

And, you know, it’s funny. I do a lot of interviews, and especially if it’s anything in the kind of mainstream, they always think that these are talking points, and you can tell they glaze over when I say something like this, and I want to say, “Come. Leave your bubble, and come out to a state like Nevada and speak to real voters because they feel like that everything is going wrong.” Everything. There are no bright spots right now.

BUCK: To that point, I mean, people are often motivated whether they’re writing restaurant reviews or they’re voting, it’s generally what upsets them that motivates them, right? What’s gone wrong. You’re talking about that. For people in the state of Nevada, what are the top two or three things that have them particularly fired up and that you think could lead to a strong outcome for Republicans going into this midterm?

LAXALT: Well, I’ll start with covid, because that’s extra topical. Last week there was no sign, no rumors, no hinting that we were gonna get masks lifted. And you guys are probably following this. All the sudden a bunch of blue state governors are lifting masks — and out of nowhere, there’s a press conference announced and the very next morning they’re all lifted.

And as we pointed out, went after the governor, went after Senator Masto who clapped and supported the decision, that the infection rate was actually higher that day than when he put masks in in August. And so every single… Their maps, their tracker, every single county in Nevada was still red. Now, I didn’t think we should have mask mandates in the first place; obviously I applaud the decision.

But it just showed what a joke all this was. And there was no science. And, in fact, someone from his task force who’s was an epidemiologist was caught unsuspected by a reporter and said, “You know, where does the science come from? ” And he said, “We weren’t consulted,” and so it just tells you everything you need to know.

You mentioned that amazing video, those young kids from Las Vegas that went viral, and as he like to say, that’s the natural state, right? No one wanted to be in masks, these kids never needed to be in masks, and, meanwhile, we had this big protest in one of our universities of college kids, that were complaining that we should put masks back on.

CLAY: We played the audio.

LAXALT: And, you know, it’s just… You want to laugh, but it’s just so sad and pathetic that they would want to protest for less freedom and for the government to regulate them more. It’s like, “Hey, guys, you can wear masks until the day you die if that’s what you want to do but to have it as a mandate is not the way we should go.”

CLAY: We talked about this because I landed in Las Vegas on an evening around 9 o’clock, and the mask mandate went into place at midnight. So I went to the hotel with my wife — we were there for a couple of birthday parties — and we were able to not wear masks all throughout casino from 9 to midnight. At midnight, it was like Cinderella’s carriage flipping back into a pumpkin.

Somebody snapped their things and started walking around saying, “You have to put a mask on now.” So you could be in the casino all day, you could be hangs out, playing whatever you wanted to do, having an incredible time, and then at midnight — we were on the casino floor — they walked around and they started making that switch.

And the amount of people who were just looking around, this is not scientific, this is completely absurd, I’m glad that they made that switch. But one of the things about Vegas, why people want to go there, is to have freedom and experience maybe things that they can’t do in their hometown or their home state. And so the idea of this Nanny State existing even in your state of Nevada was driving people bonkers. And it’s great that it’s changed, but to your point, there was no method or metrics by which they made this choice.

LAXALT: Well, and we’re in the state of Florida, which is also a tourism state, and this was proof positive that this could have been done a different way.

CLAY: Yes.

LAXALT: And our state chose the opposite. We’ve been locked down, there have been masks, and it’s killed our economy. Right now we have the highest unemployment in America, we have one of the largest small business losses in America, and so it had real serious, lasting economic consequences. All unnecessary. We had increased drug overdose, we have increased domestic violence, all the things that people like me and I’m sure people like you were warning a year ago.

There is another side of the coin, the lockdowns, and we were all ignored or all told that that shouldn’t go in the equation. Here in Florida, the governor put those in the equation and said quite clearly there’s another way to do it. So the good news, I think, is that people have awoken to just how terrible hour leaders have been.

I think a reckoning is coming. It’s not just the economy. I mean, the schools were devastated the last few years. Parents are outraged by the masks and the remote learning, and so we have problems across the board. And I think that people are ready for — absolutely ready for — change.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Adam Laxalt. He’s running for Senate in Nevada, and to that end, I wanted to ask you. Clay and I are already day in and day out pounding the drum over we need a massive victory, a massive red wave in these midterm elections to send a message and to restore freedom, yes. Also just normal life! This is one of the things that I think got people so fired up on behalf of the truckers up in Canada.

This notion that we can go on almost endlessly without being able to live normal lives. So that’s all in play, and it really does matter a lot. What should people know about your Senate race, your Democrat opponent, and how you see — you’re somebody who’s watching this, I’m sure, very closely — the GOP chances generally in the Senate going into this critical midterm election.

LAXALT: Yeah, first and foremost, I mean, are we gonna experience a red wave in this country? I think absolutely. People are ready for change. They’re tired of the Biden leadership that has failed at basically every single turn. But it’s important for people to understand the Senate map is as small as can be. We must win Georgia and Nevada. We must win these two states. If we do not win these two states, we cannot win the Senate.

And I won’t go into all the states — you guys can do that for the next number of months — but take any word for it: Without these two states we cannot take the majority in the U.S. Senate. Now, the good news is that Trump lost Nevada by only two points. That’s with them changing our election system and 90 days out and giving us mail-in balloting, ballot harvesting and all those things. So it’s a razor-thin state.

My opponent, Catherine Cortez Masto, only won by two five years ago while Harry Reid was the sitting majority leader, her patron saint, drove everything to her, drove all the resources. And so this is an absolutely winnable state. And one thing President Trump did was he absolutely moved the Hispanic community to nearly 40% in Las Vegas. He clearly won big chunks of blue-collar workers in Las Vegas.

And so these America First policies that we’re trying to actually go after the American dream and give people a chance at a better life, they were working, and they were effective, and people now know the stark contrast that all these things have gone to hell, frankly. And so we have between that and what happened to schools and lockdowns, this combination of me being able to prosecute the case that the Biden administration and left-wing policies for American and Nevada, they fail.

They fail at every turn. They fail at the border — which has increased crime and increased trafficking and drug overdoses — they’ve failed obviously in the economy, they’re failing right now with Ukraine and foreign policy, and so, you know, this is my job is to go on offense every single day.

BUCK: Where should folks go to learn more — especially your Nevada listeners — about your campaign, Adam?

LAXALT: AdamLaxalt.com.

CLAY: Last question really quick you’ve got a 6-week old. You’ve got four kids 8 and under. In addition to running for Senate do you get any sleep at all? How is the 6-week-old doing?

LAXALT: (chuckles) Well, anybody that’s had a newborn the answer right now is categorically, no. I am not getting any sleep. My wife is still bearing a lot of the brunt of the sleep deprivation. But, no, I have not slept through the night in about six weeks. But that’s okay. We’re blessed, and this is…

I know it sounds corny, but this is why I’m doing this. This is why we’re all fighting for the future of our country. I have four children that if we do not turn America around, they will not be raised in the same America I was raised in. That’s the stakes we are faced with, and that’s what drives me every single day.

BUCK: Adam Laxalt, man, thank you.

CLAY: I think the exact same thing. I got three young kids. I feel the same way.

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The Latest on the Totalitarian State of Canada

22 Feb 2022

BUCK: They’re certainly having problems up north in Canada. Clay, this was really upsetting the story up on the Daily Mail. I gotta say, Daily Mail is a British-owned and British-run website that happened to do a lot of great news gathering about what’s going on here in America, in this case in Canada, but this was really troubling stuff. “‘Just watch that horse video. That is awesome.’

Ottawa cops’ gloating texts after peaceful Freedom Convoy protesters were TRAMPLED by police horse — including grandmother on mobility scooter — and beaten up by officer. — Police forces in Canada are coming under scrutiny for their excessive violence with peaceful Freedom Convoy protesters in Ottawa.” That’s all from the headline here.

Trudeau really did call in the men with truncheons to break what was a peaceful protest, and what’s troubling is not only the way that they seized bank accounts of people and were engaged in what are clearly tyrannical practices, Clay, which you talked about. Democrats support this in this country.

They see what goes on in Canada and a majority of them — strong majority, I think about 65, 70% — say, “That is great, do that.” And in Canada the parliament just voted to support this declaration of emergency — not the conservatives went against it, but they did get a majority. What…? I just want to ask, what is wrong with these people?

CLAY: Well, and this is where I always come back to, ultimately you have to stand on principle and precedent. Because sooner or later whatever political beliefs you have, you are likely to be in a minority position. Like the Republicans are right now. They don’t have the White House, don’t have the Senate, don’t have the House.

Whatever you cheer for the majority to do, the minority at some point is going to be back in control, and they might well follow the precedent that you put in place of stifling your ability to share your opinions. And I think it’s important to note here, this was not a mostly peaceful protest in Canada. This was an entirely peaceful protest!

BUCK: That’s right.

CLAY: These people were not in any way threatening, behaving violently, any kind of danger at all. And Trudeau had two options, Buck. He could do… Let’s be honest what the Democratic governors are doing right now. They are claiming, they are claiming that covid numbers are down enough because of their mask mandates and because of their vaccine mandates that they no longer need to enforce them as rigorously as they have been.

That’s a lie, because you can look at the Republican states that never implemented these policies, and they also have had covid cases plummet. But at least they’re recognizing that they need to remove these restrictions, even though it’s occurring far more slowly than it should be. That’s not what Trudeau did. He could have easily said to these protesters…

First of all, he could have met with them like he met with the BLM protesters when he kneeled, he could have come out and said, “You know what? You’re right. Over time we are going to dial back all these covid restrictions ’cause all they were asking for was normalcy.” Instead, through jackbooted thuggery he decided to rain down the full power of the state on peaceful protesters.

You may be cheering for it now if you’re a Democrat because you disagree with these Canadian truckers. But at some point in time, the proverbial shoe will be on the other foot and the precedent that is being set of, “We can use power to curtail anybody who disagrees with us” is not one that anybody in a democratic society, in my opinion, should be endorsing.

BUCK: Clay, I’m hoping that as people see what awaits them if they speak out against a supposedly liberal… I think that’s the exactly incorrect term, but a supposedly liberal government with Justin Trudeau. Behind every smiling announce his or her pronouns, “we all need to come together and talking about social justice” lib is somebody who the moment you say, “Hold on a second. I have rights. There’s a constitution.

“There is something that the state does not give me but actually God has granted to me,” they say, “Shut up, peasant, or we’ll send our men with batons and guns after you.” I know it can feel a little bit like, “Wait a second, but that’s so…” No. People who believe that the government, that the state can fix all problems and should fix all problems also believe the state should effectively be all powerful.

And the moment that you… Really, it’s the state in place of God for them, and the moment you rattle that belief, as happened in Canada, the fact that we have… Think about this, Clay. If there was a… We have to point this out to people, and you did an excellent job of this last week, as soon as the protests were being broken up on Friday. Imagine we are in the summer of 2020 and you have BLM protests, which were —

CLAY: Far more violent.

BUCK: — often used as a platform for actual riots, violence against police officers, but just put that aside for a second. Imagine that there were peaceful protests, too, as a component of that movement. But that’s a whole other conversation. Imagine that someone in BLM was trampled by a police horse. Imagine a grandmother at a BLM protest was on a mobility scooter, was trampled by police horses on video at a BLM rally.

And there’s video of cops gloating and laughing about it. We would be told that the country was in a national racist crisis. There would be more riots, of course, from BLM than there even were, and yet with this one you see even Democrats in this country — they’ve done polling on it — watching and saying, “Yeah, that seems about right. Forget about free speech. Forget about redress of grievances to the government.” It’s not it’s Canada, folks, but it’s a mirror image of what’s going on here in so many ways.

CLAY: No doubt. And also imagine that the expansion to shut down the protests had not just included the display of force that was brought to bear by Justin Trudeau, but also that they shut down bank accounts, that they shut down the ability of Americans to donate to BLM — and that they did that under the guise of trying to protect people from” terrorism.” It would have been a five-alarm fire all over this country with people arguing that this was a tremendous step towards authoritarianism.

It happened in Canada, and the Democratic Party in this country — Democrats — cheered. That precedent is an awful one. And as Mitch McConnell said when they changed the filibuster rules, “You have to be careful about precedents because sooner or later they are gonna circle back around and bite you in the ass,” and I’m paraphrasing. He didn’t say that. But that’s the incredible danger of the precedent that’s being set right now in Canada.

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Senator Marco Rubio Blasts the CDC for Hiding Data

22 Feb 2022

BUCK: Senator Marco Rubio got in on this. We’re down here in Florida, senator from Florida. Here we go, Clay. It all adds up. Here he is, clip 21, Marco Rubio on whether people will even believe the CDC the way they should going forward. Play it.

REPORTER: They didn’t report that 18 to 49 years olds, the group least likely to benefit from these extra booster shots. Why do you think they left that out? They’re saying because it’s not ready for prime time. What’s the real reason?

SEN. RUBIO: I think because it goes against the public narrative. I think because it goes against the public guidance. For the same reason that Dr. Fauci told people not to wear masks, then he said ever been had to wear masks, and then you had to wear two masks and then two masks, and a face shield and a space suit: Because I think they think they can tell us whatever they want.

The damage they have done, the public health authorities in this country and extraordinary. You know, in the future we’re gonna have another pandemic, potentially, far worse than covid, potentially, and no one is gonna believe these guys because they’ve treated us like little children, lied to us, manipulated us, and just done tremendous damage to people’s confidence in public health officials.

BUCK: He’s completely right, Clay.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: This is part of the legacy Fauci and all the rest of these health apparatus bureaucrats is that the next time around people will — rightly or wrongly, depending on the situation — wonder they could listen to the same guidance that they got. And also notice, he’s mocking it because it deserves mockery. Two masks, one mask, no mask, three masks, N95 masks. It’s absurd what they put the country through.

CLAY: Well, not only that, it’s all over the place, right? And we’re gonna talk about the state of Nevada and what was going on there where one day everybody has to wear masks — and you probably saw, a lot of you did, that video of all those kids in elementary school who suddenly get announced by their teacher, “Hey, the mask mandate is over.”

But what’s going on here, make in mistake about it, and I think you are right, Buck, about the difficulties the CDC is going to have ever regaining the public trust because essentially what they did was allow politics to govern the choices that they made, and as parents have finally gotten fed up — and I don’t mean just Republican parents. I mean Democrat parents. I mean middle-of-the-road, independent voters.

I’ve got a good friend — we were talking about this last night at dinner, Buck, — who said, “Hey, I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life.” We were out having lunch in L.A., this friend and I were. And he said, from the midterms, “I am a covid Democrat,” a great phrase. He said, “I have always been a Democrat. But failures of getting back to normal on behalf of the Democratic Party have turned me into a Republican voter.”

I think there’s a huge number of people listening to us right now who were middle of the road or maybe apolitical and then they saw what was happening at their local school board. They saw their kids being forced to wear masks. They are listening to us right now in California certainly, Buck. The entire Super Bowl, 70,000 people, all those celebrities, everybody who could afford those multithousand-dollar tickets, they’re not wearing masks. You’re telling 5-year-olds that they have to have a mask all over the state of California the next day?

BUCK: Here’s my hope, Clay, because I was — and I know you were, too, and I keep reminding everybody that the first time we ever actually did a show together you were a guest on my radio show before we teamed up to talk about this issue, kind of the mass hysteria around all this stuff, very early on, maybe month two of the pandemic.

I was quite frustrated by how long it took people — and I was frustrated at the time by the fact that they had not yet, not a solid majority of the American people — at least expressed by their votes and expressed in the public opinion polls had — took longer to realize how serious the assault on their freedom was than I had certainly hoped for or anticipated. I do think that, though, now… I thought it might take one year, Clay.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: It looks like it has taken two, but I do believe that the reckoning is upon us, and which also brings us to our conversation about now is time for consequences. Now is time to run up the scoreboard against the other side, because otherwise, why even have this system of voting that we do? If you can just get away with doing a catastrophe, what’s the point? We need to actually hold everybody to account on this.

I think the American people have woken up to it now, and I think the CDC hiding data? Think about that! Think about another federal agency, “Oh, you know, we’re not gonna tell everybody how many opioid overdoses there are because some opioids are prescription and sew don’t want people to be scared to take them so we’re gonna hide the fact that a hundred thousand Americans died.” Imagine if that happened, imagine hiding data like this. It’s absurd.

CLAY: Not only hiding data, hiding data while attempting to mandate that we all consume a for-profit drug product. This, to me, is the wildest thing associated with the Biden vaccine mandate, which thankfully at least part of was struck down — the 84 million people that would have had it applied to them — by the Supreme Court.

But you are having your federal government — think about this — mandating that you take a vaccine and that potentially you continue to take a booster, or you continue to take a yearly shot in a way that has never occurred before and is effectively providing an annuity to all of these pharmaceutical companies for years into the future. We created dozens of potential billionaires over this situation and didn’t give the American public the right to make their choice — and the CDC hasn’t even given us all the data to allow us to make the most informed choices. It’s disgraceful.

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This 2019 Biden Clip on Putin Didn’t Age Well

22 Feb 2022

BUCK: Here’s Biden, just as a little flashback, folks, ’cause you can see the reality now, and Russia became more than a foreign policy issue under Trump because it was part of the soft-coup attempt from the Democrat apparatus to come together with, whether it was deep state elements in the intelligence community, Democrat-aligned media — and of course Hillary’s campaign, the DNC — to create this whole Russia fabrication.

Then they had this hysteria around Putin. And so it became an applause line among Democrats who honestly know nothing about foreign policy, never mind Russia, to just talk tough about Putin all the time. This was Biden back in 2019 assuring everybody, oh, he was gonna stand up to him. Play clip 7.

BIDEN: Once again, Putin and the Russians are trying to engage in our elections and decide who the president is gonna be. And this time I’m the object of their — of their attention because Putin knows if I am president of the United States, his days of tyranny and trying to intimidate the United States and those in Eastern Europe are over. I’m gonna stand up to him. He’s a bully, just like the president. And I know he doesn’t want me to be president, but I’ll tell you what: When I’m president, things are gonna change. Mr. Putin, the American people decide their elections, not you.


CLAY: What an embarrassment. That’s a great, fantastic clip for our crew to have pulled. And we asked Trump about the tweet, essentially, saying something similar that Joe Biden put out, which was “Putin’s afraid of me,” essentially. Remember that’s what Biden tried to argue and, frankly, far too many people in the media and the chattering classes were willing to accept that as a reality when the truth is — beyond a shadow of a doubt — Putin does not respect Biden, and all you have to do is look at what he’s doing right now in Ukraine as perfect evidence of that fact.

BUCK: It’s remarkable how much the reality that Democrats were fed for four years, specifically about Russia and foreign policy. They said that there was gonna be a war with North Korea because of Trump. There was going to be nuclear proliferation because of Trump stepping out of the Iran nuclear deal. And of course, with Russia they said that he was an agent of Russia, which is for crazy people, essentially.

This became absurd. But they were clinging to it. And now we see that when you have people, whether it’s on covid and masks… People in this country have been brainwashed by the Democrat apparatus on covid. They were brainwashed on the realities of Russia. Look, Putin, he’s a rough dude. There’s no question. He’s a bad guy, he’s a dictator, and he is aggressive, and he’s a threat to his neighbors. That all said, how do you handle him?

Going back to our interview with Trump, he was saying, you want to get along with Russia where you can, how you can, because then you actually have better leverage to push back without having to have guns blazing literally and figuratively.

So this is a situation I think where a lot of people are waking up to they were lied to about Russia Trump obviously for four years, but also the role of Russia on the world stage and whether Biden would be… Who is afraid of Joe Biden? I don’t think anybody is afraid of Joe Biden. Maybe people that are worried he’s gonna come up behind them and sniff too closely to their ear; they might be afraid of Joe Biden.

CLAY: Well, also, you don’t know that Biden is even making the decisions inside of his White House. Right? That is one of the biggest challenges I think out there. You knew ultimately that Trump was the decider in his White House. Whether you agreed or disagreed with that decision, Vladimir Putin had to respect the fact that Trump was the decider.

Does anyone out there listening to us right now feel like Joe Biden is the decider in his White House? I don’t think that he is. I bet most of you don’t think that he is, either. And, frankly, I’m not sure that he has the cognitive mental strength to even be the decider, and that’s only going to get progressively worse the more time he spends in office.

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Democrats Must Face Consequences in November

22 Feb 2022

BUCK: I saw this story just over the course of the show. I was reading in after we had our interview with President Trump during the commercial breaks here, Clay, this is remarkable. Let me just step back for a second. There should be consequences for bad decision-making in politics, and that includes not only people who are in elected office as members of whether it’s governor, state legislature, Congress, et cetera.

But also, down to the school district level, I think we’ve started to see the Mom Rebellion against the mask mandates and CRT teaching in school really become a political movement unto itself, but there have to be consequences for bad decision-making — and I would even say for tyranny. And this is great. This is from just a few days ago up on Forbes. “Florida House votes…”

The news today is that it is with the senate in Florida, the State Senate here. “Florida House Votes to Strip $200 Million From Schools That Imposed Mask Mandates” against the governor’s executive order. “The Florida House passed a budget that takes $200 million of funding away from schools that imposed the mandate.

“The Putting Parents First Amendment, introduced by Republican state Representative Randy Fine, would divert school funding away from 12 counties that imposed school mask mandates and shift it instead to 55 school districts that never required masks, the budget including them passed in a 102-14 vote. Some Democrats voted against it because the amendment…”

We’re getting into the details here a little more than people need to know. But I thought the most interesting part of this, this comes from DeSantis’ spokeswoman Christina Pushaw, ’cause people are of course saying, “Oh, my gosh. They’re cutting all the funding from schools!” She says, “They shouldn’t have broken the law…” This is a quote from her Twitter just now. “They shouldn’t have broken the law by force-masking children against parents’ wishes.

“This cut only affects salaries of school administrators, over $100,000 dollars; so it is not intended to educate children, it will go to the 55 school districts that followed the law. Actions have consequences.” Yes! This is what needs to happen now, folks. You have to have in places where Republicans, where conservatives have power, whether it’s at the school board level, all the way up to the governor’s mansion.

You gotta get rid of the mask love commies on your school board, you gotta actually punish school districts that think — and I hope we’re gonna have Glenn Youngkin on tomorrow. I’m gonna ask him about this one because he’s had defiant school districts in his state that think that they don’t have to listen to the governor. When the governor’s a Democrat, it’s, “Shut up, peasant, do whatever he says.” When it’s a Republican it’s, “Oh, we’re gonna do our own thing.” Not allowed to happen anymore, folks, not on DeSantis’ watch.

CLAY: What I think is so important, there have to be consequences. What do you hire a politician for? Judgment. You hire a politician, when it really gets down to it, when you and I and everybody out there listening to us goes and votes, ultimately what you’re voting for is, “I trust this person to make the right decisions, to have the right judgment when it comes to so many different issues out there across the board.” And if we do not…

And I mean this for people out there who are independents. I mean this out there — and, by the way, we see the numbers. A lot of you may have leaned Democrat over time but you now because of covid and the insanity that you see in the country, you’re listening to us, and certainly everybody out there who’s Republican, there have to be consequences. There have to be consequences, Buck, for getting everything wrong on covid.

For telling you what business was essential and nonessential, for telling you that you couldn’t be in a hospital with an ill, seriously ill relative, for telling you that your kids couldn’t get on a swing set, for making your kids wear masks for two years, all of those things. That doesn’t even need to consider the border, the murder rate, defund the police. All of these failures — Afghanistan, Ukraine, all of them — demand consequences.

And if there are not consequences in 2022, what you are effectively saying as a nation is, judgment doesn’t matter. And, Buck, I may be completely naive. A lot of people say, oh, you’re way too optimistic. We had a conversation last night. People say, “Oh, you know, you believe too good.” I think people ultimately get things right, and I think they got ’em wrong in the 2020 presidential election.

But I think if you look at what’s gonna happen in 2022, they are gonna reap the whirlwind of their lies and of their judgment failures. That’s why we have to have a ass kicking. I don’t want one of those things where we have to stay up ’til 3 a.m. worrying about when the votes are gonna come in and what it’s gonna look like. I don’t want it to be close. I want it to be a destruction.

BUCK: If we are not jet skiing around on a tidal wave of lib tears in this midterm after the votes are counted —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — it is not good enough.

CLAY: I agree.

BUCK: We have not done well enough. Because when you see the scale and the gravity and the point you made about all these different decisions — the gravity of the failures — and the experiments of federalism has loved you us to see at a time of national crisis who got it right and who got it wrong and states — and people voted with their feet, and people have seen the reality, and the data now is incontrovertible.

The blue lockdown, authoritarian, Biden-voting masses in New York and California — and I know they oppress fellow New Yorkers who are Republican like me with their bad decision making, and the same thing for all their listeners in California. We have to live in the same state as these loons.

There needs to be the accountability for all that was done and also the arrogance, Clay, and the vindictiveness that came along with it. I mean, what you’ve really seen here is that now the whole masking and vaccine mandate thing has gone from an argument over science to a question of political defiance and just stubbornness and bitterness. “We’re gonna continue to mandates to punish people!”

Look what they’ve done in Canada. They’re continuing with the mandate. Cases… You don’t even hear about covid cases right now because they’ve gone so far, so fast down, which is great. But there has to be a reckoning, a nationwide reckoning of the people who decided they had all answers; they knew what was best. They are the ones who will actually… They’re the ones that needed to suffer consequences now by being pushed out of power.

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Boris Johnson Lifts All Covid Restrictions in U.K.

22 Feb 2022

CLAY: Good news, at least around the world. Boris Johnson has made the decision to end all covid restrictions in his country, even as our own CDC continues to hamstring many of us when it comes to returning to normalcy. Let me go ahead right now, if we can. Let’s listen to the prime minister of England, Boris Johnson, announce all remaining covid rules are now ended in England.

JOHNSON: First, we will remove all remaining domestic restrictions in law.

PARLIAMENT: (cheers)

JOHNSON: From this day, 24th of February, we will end the legal requirements to self-isolate following a positive test. We will end routine contact tracing. Until the 1st April, we will advise people who test positive to stay at home. But after that, we will encourage people with covid-19 symptoms to exercise personal responsibility —

PARLIAMENT: Yeah. Hear, hear.

JOHNSON: — just as we encourage people who may have flu to be considerate to others.

BUCK: That is exactly what we have been saying on this show for a very long time.

CLAY: For a long time.

BUCK: No one has said here, nor would we ever, that covid is not obviously very dangerous to some people; that it hasn’t, unfortunately, taken a lot of life in this country and around the world. It’s a question of how do we best reasonably deal with it. And the same way that you have the flu, you have people who are at higher risk; they should get the shot. It makes sense for them to get the shot.

If you are sick, stay away from people. But they’re pulling away in the U.K., Clay, all this other stuff, the masking, contact tracing. People who told you… For everyone out there, okay, you’re with me on this, right? If someone said contact tracing was a good idea, they either didn’t think it through or weren’t very berate or had no idea what the actual numbers of covid were.

CLAY: Maybe both.

BUCK: Probably both, and this was a government policy obviously pushed by libs and Democrats all over the country. Contact tracing was absurd. Dr. Marty Makary, our friend on the same side of things, making a lot of sense about natural immunity. Let’s play that clip.

DR. MAKARY: They’ve been cherry-picking science from the beginning. That’s been obvious. The only study they released on natural immunity during the pandemic up to a few weeks ago was a window of two months in the state of Kentucky. Even though they have data from all 50 states, they were trying to prove a preset hypothesis to advance a political agenda. And this is the first time ever we’ve seen science weaponized as political propaganda. It’s ironic that you can have antibodies that circulate and neutralize covid, but they are antibodies the government does not recognize because they don’t want to recognize it, and now we’ve learned from other countries that those antibodies are better.

BUCK: The guy’s a hero. We don’t use that word a lot around here, but Dr. Marty Makary is willing to speak truth, with all the risks that has come during covid. Very few MDs have, Clay, as you know.

CLAY: No doubt. And not only has he been willing to speak the truth even in the face of much negativity, also Glenn Youngkin — who is gonna be our guest I believe tomorrow at 2:30 Eastern — the newly elected governor of Virginia, has selected Dr. Marty Makary as his primary covid adviser.

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