Dr. Marty Makary: How About Follow the Data?

11 Feb 2022

BUCK: We’ve got Dr. Marty Makary with us now, Johns Hopkins University Medical Center and the author of The Price We Pay. Dr. Makary, great to have you back, sir.

DR. MAKARY: Great to be with you.

BUCK: So, you’ve got some updates for us I understand on a little something called natural immunity which — despite what the CDC has led a lot of people to believe — is a real thing that really matters.

DR. MAKARY: (chuckles) Well, the test of time has caught up with the deniers and we did this giant study out of Johns Hopkins. My research invited people in, we tested their blood, and what we found is that if you had covid in the past, 99.3% of those people had circulating antibodies, and those antibodies were present almost two years after infection.

So, the debate is over. Now it’s time to just recognize, are we really following the science, or are we following politics? Because I hear about high-level meetings in the government among public health officials and they’re basically political meetings. Should we agree to this or not? And it’s like, how about follow the data?

CLAY: So, what’s gonna happen now, Dr. Makary? Are we just gonna go…? All the people who were saying vaccine mandates, mask mandates, as they’re all just disappearing, are people just gonna pretend that that never happened? I just don’t know, like, where we go from here, right? Like I’m in L.A., Buck’s in New York City, there are places that are saying, “Hey, we have to see your vax card.” Is it just gonna disappear and then people gonna be like, yeah, well, as if it never happened? In your mind where does it go from here?

BUCK: Well, people are angry. They’re not willing to just say, “You know what? You really screwed up society for two years. We’re just gonna forgive you and move on.” People want honesty. They want some accountability. This was the biggest public health intervention in human history. You had a Johns Hopkins study come out two weeks ago evaluating the effect of that giant intervention. And basically, Fox and Wall Street Journal were the only places that covered it.

CLAY: Amazing.

DR. MAKARY: People are seeing through it.

BUCK: Dr. Makary, when are we gonna be able to get a sense, do you think it is possible for us to get a sense of what the actual exposure to the American people of this virtue was? I mean, I remember in the early days there was serology testing being done to get a sense of just antibody levels in the general population.

And in New York City alone in June of 2020, if I recall correctly, 20% in June of 2020 of the city had already had — you know, had had covid at that point in time. Do we have any way, do you think we’ll be able to get a sense as to how many people in this country have actually had covid at this point? ‘Cause it strikes me as a very important part of the data to see whether any of this mitigation stuff, any of the lockdown strategies had really any effect at all.

DR. MAKARY: Yeah. You’re right. It was 20% just a couple months into the pandemic of people in New York and then it was one-in-two Americans by the end of the year according to a Columbia University study after Year One. So — and the people who are unvaccinated, most of them have natural immunity. What people don’t realize is almost 90% of those truckers in Canada are vaccinated. The ones that don’t, I can almost guarantee you they’ve got natural immunity. So that’s the reality. People are… You know, they want to move on. They know the reality’s in the data.

BUCK: Do you have any sense…? What do you think is the percentage of the American people? Does anyone know or can anyone do a study? Do you think 80% of the country, 70% of the country’s been infected? Do we have any idea?

DR. MAKARY: We don’t. I think it’s 90 to 95% have either vaccinated or natural immunity. Remember when Omicron was ripping through the population, we were documenting half a million to three-quarters of a million cases a day. And were only capturing one in three to one in five cases. So we were adding almost 1% of our population or half of 1% per day in that group that has natural immunity.

There’s very few people left. When you talk about kids, you know, and this rush to get every 6-month-old vaccinated, they’ve all been exposed actually and it changes the calculus. They won’t break down these studies that they put out by those who had the infection in the past. And that’s why, if you remember, Denmark had the study nobody could explain that the unvaccinated had lower rates of transmission. Well, that’s because they had more natural immunity.

CLAY: Dr. Makary, what’s gonna happen in your mind, with schools? What should happen, what will happen? Obviously, we just played a clip of Las Vegas schoolteacher announcing the kids don’t have to wear masks anymore. There has been discussions, and some states have already said they’re going to mandate if, like California, that kids have to all get the covid vaccine. What do you think will happen, what should happen as it pertains to kids and covid shots and masking going forward?

DR. MAKARY: Well, I think most of the country is just saying, “We’re done. Look, we made tremendous sacrifices. We’re not gonna be playing these games about if you get vaccinated then you can stay in school like they did with masks.” They see through the phoniness of a lot of this stuff.

They know that population immunity is high, and they know that healthy kids are virtually resilient to this severe illness. So I think people are just gonna reject it all except in the pockets of the country where you’ve got people like Sonia Sotomayor who truly believed that a hundred thousand kids were in the hospital, and those politicians are gonna try to cater to those people.

BUCK: Speaking to Dr. Marty Makary, author of The Price We Pay, and professor at Johns Hopkins University Medical Center. Dr. Makary, what is your assessment right now…? When someone says to you mRNA technology in the fight against covid, what do you want to say to them?

I just kind of wonder here, what has the data really shown us in terms of, is it protective against infection from Omicron at all? Is it only protective against hospitalization and death? Do we have a sense as to at what level? That discussion has also fallen away as a lot of the mask mandates and some of the mania seems to be fading around it.

DR. MAKARY: Well, I hope one of the takeaways is people, I hope, realize you cannot just believe what pharma is saying. And they can do some amazing things. There’s good scientists there and they develop good products. But when the messaging comes out, “Hey, we have a new variant. Just take another dose of our vaccine that we invented for prior variants — and, by the way, we’re going to create another vaccine specific to Omicron.

“But just take another dose of what we have now until we come up with another one and then take…” I hope people see through this. The vaccine trial in kids 6 months to 5 years failed. It was a randomized controlled trial. It failed. There is no difference. And instead of saying, “Hey, let’s scrap this and move on and try something different,” what they did is they told the FDA, “Please approve this, and just trust us.

“We’ll get a third dose by the time this is out there, and that will help you.” I think people are seeing through this right now. They want to move on. And it’s not just this. It’s all of it. It was the whole groupthink, surface transmission, the barbaric hospital visitation policies, school closings, the narrow dozing interval was too short, cloth masks, ignoring natural immunity, boosting people, all of it. People are sick of all of it.

CLAY: Dr. Makary, what would you tell parents, because there still are parents who are listening to us that are trying to decide — because there’s a lot of pressure being put on them; you know this — to go get their kids vaccinated for covid. This may turn into the next battle royale before all is said and done. I’ve been open.

I think my kids have had covid. I’m not going to get… I’m not anti-vax, but I’m not getting my young kids the covid shot. I don’t think they need it. I think they’ve likely had it, given that both myself and my wife have had it. What would you tell the average parent out there about their kids, especially young kids?

DR. MAKARY: Well, I would tell them to follow the science because in Pfizer’s own vaccine trial in kids 5 through 11 it said that no kid who had covid in the past got covid. So regardless if they got the vaccine or not they were immune. So if they have natural immunity, nobody should be getting a vaccine if they’re young and healthy. For kids who have a comorbidity, I do believe in vaccinating those. Those are the high-risk kids, and those are the kids that benefit from the vaccine.

BUCK: Dr. Makary, before we let you go, are we, by the summer, gonna have to think about a lot of this stuff coming back, a lot of these debates coming back in November, December? Or do you think enough of the medical community and just the American people in general have seen this for what it is — not everybody, but enough — that we’re not gonna have to have these battles again?

‘Cause I worry — I’m here in New York City — that, come November, right after the elections, all the sudden they’re gonna say, “Time to put those masks on everybody! Just in indoor settings, just for a while, maybe two masks, maybe get a booster. We’re gonna make you get a booster or we’re gonna fire you.” can see it all happening again. Do you think that’s a concern we should have?

DR. MAKARY: Yes. And I’ll tell you, I saw the school debate coming last spring when the teachers unions were saying, “We’re just gonna get to the end of this year and then we’ll be good for the fall and we believe school should be opened the fall,” and I said, wait a minute. They are gonna come up with new arguments. And you’re going to see a bump in cases in the fall, guaranteed.

Just like we are with influenza and parainfluenza and rhinovirus and every other virus that circulates year to year. And some media gonna report that we just had a 400% increase in covid this coming November and that’s gonna be a headline even though the cases went from two to eight per 100,000 and there’s high population immunity. So, yes, I think we need to learn our lessons and prepare for a rational argument.

BUCK: Dr. Makary, author of The Price We Pay, Johns Hopkins University Medical Center. Dr. Makary, always illuminating, sir. Thanks for spending some time with us.

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Will Cain Talks Left’s Covid Implosion, Super Bowl

11 Feb 2022

BUCK: We’re now joined by our friend Will Cain, host of Fox & Friends Weekend and the Will Cain Podcast. He’s also got a special on Fox Nation coming out next week called Long Drive Back: Tiger Woods and Ben Hogan. Will, buddy, good to have you.

CAIN: Buck, Clay, what’s up, guys?

BUCK: We’re good, man. So we spent a lot of time today talking about the pivot, the big shift right now away from mask up between bites outside in the cold — or make the kids do that at least — to maybe it’s time to think about life somewhat normal going forward. What do you think is going on here?

CAIN: I can only assume it’s rats jumping off of the ship seeing that the ship is sinking. I can only assume it has to do with absolutely abysmal polling numbers and the potential blood path at the polls. That being said, whatever is motivating this regime — that’s probably the right word to use, regime, not political power, but absolutely power-based regime.

Whatever is motivating them, I happen to find myself in this unforgiving attitude. Another friend of the three of ours, Jesse Kelly, has given great voice to this. And I’ll be real with both of you guys, I struggle because I want to be a person of forgiveness. I want to be a positive person and ready to move forward but I do believe we can’t move forward without some accountability.

I am not afraid, I am certain the Hakeem Jeffries of the world will move forward trying to convince everyone that their policies — that Joe Biden — delivered us from covid, and they will spend zero time on reflection, and they will pretend they did not mask our children for two years, they did not lock down our businesses for significant periods of time, and they did not instill fear in the population at large. And I just simply can’t forgive and forget the last two years.

CLAY: Amen, Will. I mean, and that’s why my argument is for everybody out there listening right now: As much anger and vitriol as you feel right now, don’t allow it to fade between now and November, all right? November needs to be a consequential election where the people who made these awful decisions regarding covid pay political consequences for those choices.

Otherwise, what is the point of an election if you don’t hold politicians accountable for what I think is the biggest public policy failure since Vietnam? For most of us out there, certainly those of us who are relatively young — and I’m using “young” expansively — Will, there’s never been anything that is this poorly run in any of your lives in America.

CAIN: Clay, and I’ll go a step further. I don’t think the reckoning is wholly at the ballot box, and I’m not talking about tribunals or public trials. But I am talking about the total and utter destruction of credibility. You say one of the biggest public policy blunders of our time. I would add to that one of the biggest propaganda drives in my lifetime, and I would suggest probably in at least a half a century.

So what we have seen is the perpetuation of you want to talk about the big lie? How about the multitude of lies that people like Dr. Anthony Fauci on down to mayors across this country have perpetuated on the American people with significant long term costs, most notably on our kids! But when this is done, Clay, Buck, when the rats have jumped on which the ship there will be some sad souls left like zombies shuffling around.

They have been… These are beyond the authoritarian power grabbers, this is the beyond the virtual signalers this is the true sad cost of those who have intermediates the fear. You may know some’ I know some. These are the people who actually aren’t cynical, who are sadly now mentally destroyed, and they will walk around in fear of something they can’t see for the rest of their lives.

BUCK: Speaking to Will Cain, cohost of Fox & Friends Weekend and host of the Will Cain Podcast, which is very excellent. I was just a guest on it recently. So go check out Will’s podcast. Will, to me I do wonder. Clay has some time at CNN, a little bit — little different. His —

CLAY: Very short-lived. Very short-lived at CNN.

BUCK: You and I, though, both spent some time over there. And, you know, with Zucker’s ouster, I just have to wonder if given now that all this stuff is really… What I would just call the edifice of Fauciism is just crumbling all around us in real time. Anyone who’s paying attention can see it. Do you think that there will be some people who will not only reflect internally, but will publicly begin to say, “Wow. We actually…”

Whether it’s CNN or the New York Times or anywhere else, “We called for the abuse of children and for the trampling of the Constitution and for the destruction of people’s mental health with little, if any, attendant benefit to their health.” Do you think we might see some shift? I mean, at some point is it so ugly and so immoral what’s been done, that even CNN will have some people say, “Yeah, we shouldn’t do that again”?

CAIN: No. Not in a moment of self-reflection. Can I say just for one moment the last thing Clay needs is any more ego boost.

CLAY: (laughing)

CAIN: But I remember a little bit like everyone in the older generation than us can remember where they were when JFK was assassinated. I can remember where I was when Clay said he loved the First Amendment and boobs on CNN.

CLAY: (laughing)

CAIN: I was in Las Vegas, Nevada, covering a boxing match for First Take on ESPN. I was set to go debate Stephen A. on Golovkin versus Alvarez, I think it was, and Clay said boobs on CNN. I didn’t know Clay at the time, but I knew that I would one day. (laughing)

CLAY: (laughing)

CAIN: Buck, to your point — and, by the way, I would say, you need to go check out the Will Cain Podcast. Buck was excellent about it if you want to know more about who Buck is as an individual a human being an individual and where we both have come together go check that out.

So Buck and Clay, you both know this. There won’t be self-reflection. Don Lemon will never look in the mirror and say did I get this wrong? That will not happen. But, Buck, there will be a different form of accountability. I think more specifically at CNN. I think we’re probably within 12 months of a total housecleaning at CNN.

BUCK: Fantastic.

CLAY: All right. This is going to be a hell of a pivot. It’s almost as big a pivot as we’ve seen the blue states making as it pertains to masks. Leaving aside the greatest public pelf failure in any of our lives, Sunday is the football, the Super Bowl game going on. Will, I am on the Rams as a four-point favorite. I think they win by double digits. I think Aaron Donald to be MVP Buck has no idea about any of that that I just said.

CAIN: (laughing)

BUCK: No idea.

CLAY: Zero.

BUCK: Zero.

CLAY: Will, what do you expect to see in the Super Bowl come Sunday?

CAIN: It’s gonna be boring. Look, I don’t know if they teach us to think the same way at Vanderbilt, University of Texas Law. I don’t know how we have ended up on the same side of so many issues, Travis, but I’m on the Rams. I’m on the Rams to cover. I’m going to place a nice little bet on Aaron Donald as your MVP. I think I get plus 1200 right now, and I’m gonna hedge that with a little bit of Cooper Kupp MVP. By the way, I think those are the most interesting bets, the must fun bets.

CLAY: I agree. Those are the three. And people can understand those, by the way. We’re gonna do a prop bet with Buck. I love prop the bets. But, Buck, I had Dub pull non-sports prop bets for you to be able to go head-to-head against me without needing any football knowledge. So you can have Super Bowl stakes games here. We’re gonna do that and be coming back at a break. But those are the three I agree, Will. Everybody can kind of have an opinion, and they aren’t overwhelmingly to make.

CAIN: Yeah. And so here’s the thing. In order to win MVP, what do you have to be? You either have to be quarterback or you have to be famous — and Aaron Donald is just famous enough, and so is Cooper Kupp, because the odds-on favorite — if you and I are right that the Rams win, then the odds-on favorite — is Matt Stafford wins MVP. But you don’t win any money picking the odds-on favorite. So take your long shots, take Aaron Donald, take Cooper Kupp.

BUCK: You guys might as well be speaking in Chinese for all I can all this.

CAIN: (laughing)

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: Anyway, I’m glad that everyone out there… I’m glad the rest of America knows what you’re talking about, ’cause I have no idea. Everyone check out the Will Cain Podcast and obviously tune in this weekend to Fox & Friends, which, I mean, it’s amazing. We got Will Cain, our friend Pete Hegseth. We got a great squad.

CLAY: Rachel’s great, too. She’s got a fantastic show.

BUCK: Great stuff there.

CAIN: And, by the way, on Saturday morning, President Donald Trump.

CLAY: Wow.

BUCK: Ooh.

CLAY: That’s a hell of a tease. That’s a big timer.

BUCK: Well done, Will, our friend, we’ll talk to you soon, buddy. Thanks for being with us.

CAIN: Thanks, guys.

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Clay and Buck Go Head-to-Head on Super Bowl Prop Bets

11 Feb 2022

CLAY: Dub is in our Nashville studio. I had him pick prop bets. These are things you can wager on that have nothing to do with sports. He’s got four of them. Buck, you and I are going head-to-head to see who will do better on the Super Bowl. I will have no advantage. I have told Dub to pick things that you and I can equally win. Dub, can you hear us? Are you ready to roll?

DUB: I’m ready to roll, Clay and Buck. And I think it’s appropriate we start right here with this particular prop, the national anthem, over under. This is a famous Super Bowl prop. I play it every year. This year we have Mickey Guyton — who, full disclosure, I had no idea who this person was until yesterday. The over-under on the national anthem this year is one minute 35 seconds.

Now, a little context for you guys. Usually, the anthem takes about two minutes; so this is a pretty low number. Mickey has had some performances in the past where she clocks in at right around this so a little bit of past history, but a low number this year for the national anthem total.

CLAY: All right. How long the national anthem before the Super Bowl will last. You can gamble on this. This is a wildly popular bet. One minute 35 seconds over or under? I think it’s unpatriotic to take the under on the national anthem. I am, Buck, going to take over one minute 35 seconds. They will hit the stopwatch as she begins, and when she hits the final word, that is the official time. So I’m going over 1:35. You can take the same side, by the way. I’m going over 1:35.

BUCK: I think over is the safe bet, although I am a fan of brevity, especially during public speeches and public performances. You know what, Clay? I’ll let it ride! I’ll go under, just to be contrarian.

CLAY: All right. Dub, you’re gonna keep track on these. What’s the next one?

DUB: All right, next up, it has to do with the national anthem as well. The over or under on the number of planes during the flyover. The number is five and a half. Over five and a half planes or under five and a half.

BUCK: I’m going first this time, chief. First of all, what’s a half a plane?

DUB: Yeah, exactly.

CLAY: Five or six. So that way —

BUCK: Tells everyone how much betting I’ve done, by the way. Half planes flying. I know that.

CLAY: If you take over five and a half, you’re saying it’s gonna be six or more.

BUCK: Or six or more planes, baby. They’re flying. It’s America, loud and proud.

CLAY: I’m gonna go under. I’m gonna go under five and a half. Remember, they have a kind of a dome cover. So, I don’t think that they’re going to have as many planes as sometimes they might have. I’m taking the under here.

BUCK: Wait, it’s an indoor stadium? Well, now and then of course they’re not gonna have…! See, he’s got advantage even when there’s no advantage. I didn’t know this. It’s ridiculous.

CLAY: They are still gonna have the flyover. It’s gonna happen.

DUB: It’s more for the television audience.

CLAY: Yeah, it’s TV, it’s a TV production.

DUB: All right. Let’s move to the halftime show. This one is pretty funny. Will any part of Eminem performance by censored by the television crew?

CLAY: One billion percent he will curse or he will grab his genitals. He will do something. Maybe he’ll give the middle finger? What are the odds? What’s the payout?

DUB: You know it’s not as big of a favorite as you would think. Yes is minus 180.

BUCK: I gotta go with Clay on this one. I’m not taking the under when it comes to Eminem. No. No bueno.

CLAY: I would put almost every spare dollar to gamble that part of Eminem’s performance will be bleeped out or blurred out or whatever else. This is a guaranteed winner. All right.

DUB: This could be a blood bank here, Clay.

CLAY: Yeah, this could be the blood bank guarantee.

DUB: Absolutely. This is postgame, all right? What color will the liquid be poured on the winning coach? Okay, what color the Gatorade gonna be?

BUCK: Gotta be lemon-lime. I like the classic. Lemon-lime, baby. That’s how —

CLAY: What are the options? What are the payouts here?

DUB: I’ll go in order from favorite to least favorite. Orange is number one. Clear/water up next. Lime or yellow is third. Then red, then blue, then purple.

BUCK: I’m letting it ride on yellow.

CLAY: What’s the payout on yellow?

DUB: Yellow is plus 350. I think that’s probably where I would go, honestly.

CLAY: I’m gonna go blue because I think the Rams are gonna win. The Rams have a prominent blue color. What does blue pay me out at?

DUB: Blue will get you at four to one, Clay.

CLAY: Four to one. There you go. Those are all the bets. Dub, thank you for putting those together. Let me tell you again: If you actually are gambling, I love the Rams to cover the four; I like the under 48 and a half, and I like Aaron Donald to be MVP. By the way, these are fun. You can go bet ’em at FanDuel.com/Clay; $5 bet gets you $280 if you just pick the winner. It’s super simple. Have you ever gambled on the Super Bowl, Buck?

BUCK: Does it sound like I’ve ever gambled on the Super Bowl, Clay? I’m still trying to figure out what an over-under is.

CLAY: But you can buy squares, for instance. You’ve legitimately never put any dollar on any outcome of the Super Bowl?

BUCK: Clay, I found out that the Super Bowl was this weekend about four days ago; so, I’m not exactly up on this.

CLAY: So, would you even watch any of it?

BUCK: I mean, I might watch some of it just in solidarity with my fellow Americans who will watch some of it, although —

CLAY: I would love to know what percentage of our listenership will be gambling in some way, ’cause you can buy, like, a square if you go to a Super Bowl party, you know, where you guess at what the outcome of the game’s gonna be. A hundred million people watched. I don’t think there’s any other audience of more than 50 million doing anything in America in terms of television.

BUCK: In fairness — ’cause it kind of breaks with my thinking that a lot of professional athletic leagues are too woke and the people are —

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: I don’t agree with the messaging. You gotta see what the commercials and the halftime show are, ’cause everyone talks about that. I always find the halftime show is kind of disappointing. It’s usually… How many times can they pull out Steven Tyler and that other guy that’s always with the guitar with him like before you’re like, “All right, this is it? I mean, why don’t we have the Beatles, the Rolling Stones go out there?” Come on. The same thing.

CLAY: I’m pretty excited, honestly, for Snoop Dogg, Eminem, and Dr. Dre, given the fact it’s in L.A.

BUCK: Are they doing it? I had no idea. No idea.

CLAY: Yeah, it’s like old-school nineties rap season. That’s what they’re bringing out.

BUCK: I’m gonna call my shot like Babe Ruth here. It’s gonna be… Wait, who’s in it again? The Bengals and the Rams.

CLAY: Snoop Dogg —

BUCK: No, no, the game.

CLAY: Sorry. Yes. Yes, Rams, Bengals. Cincinnati versus L.A.

BUCK: Cincinnati by seven, my man. That’s how this goes down. Cincinnati by a touchdown.

CLAY: There you go! From Buck.

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The Canadian Trucker Revolution Is About More Than the Vax Mandates

11 Feb 2022

BUCK: We want to talk to you about the freedom trucker revolution, what’s going on in Canada, because you’re being lied to about it even if you try to find out about it from the Canadian media, which is overwhelmingly state funded. Imagine if all we had in America really was NPR, but a Canadian version of NPR, and that’s basically what our brothers and sisters up north have.

There are a couple of news outlets. We had on one of the intrepid reporters from Rebel News, but that’s really a startup news organization. Doesn’t get the state funding that others do, doesn’t have the same reach that many other Canadian media outlets do. You’re being told that this is all a vaccine mandate protest, and that’s really only a part of it.

I would recommend to you the Bari Weiss Substack, which has now become really almost its own publishing must-read. “What the Truckers Want,” by Rupa Subramanya. “I’ve spoken to 100 of the protestors gathered in the Canadian capital,” Subramanya writes. “What’s happening is far bigger than the vaccine mandates.” The author here lives in downtown Ottawa, Clay.

And one of the things that’s fascinating to read here and to learn about from someone firsthand is that this is about much more than what you’ve been told in the media. For example, this is a quote from the piece: “The convoy is spearheaded by truckers, but its message of opposition to life under government control has brought onto the icy streets countless, once-voiceless people declaring that they are done being ignored.

“That the elites — the people who have Zoomed their way through the pandemic — had better start paying attention to the fentanyl overdoses, the suicides, the crime, the despair. Or else.” Clay, this isn’t just a protest about vaccine — 95% of the truckers are vaccinated. This is a protest about ending the government’s tyranny around covid once and for all, which is why the apparatus here and in Canada hates it so much.

CLAY: I’ve been thinking — and I’m sure you probably have, too, in following this Canadian trucker protest — and we have so many truckers who listen to this show. I bet if we told you right now, “Hey, honk your horn if you are listening to Clay and Buck,” all the sudden everywhere, right, major interstates, there’d be suddenly a lot of horns honking right now because these guys have a lot of time so sit and think in their individualist…

Right? What I love about them is they all are independent, individualists who are responsible for so many different things when it comes to the success of their different trips that they are taking on a daily basis. But you have time to sit and think and contemplate things, you will get to experience so many different parts of the country.

And the more I was thinking about it, the more it made sense that trucking — which is a job that in many ways is about being able to go to so many different places and experience so many different things and see the full fabric of whatever country you’re in or countries that you are traveling through would be uniquely — as a profession, is particularly offended by the notion that everybody has to do something.

And because of the fact that many of them are independent contractors, who many of them own their own trucks, that they would have the ability to actually stand up against us this, right, because that’s one of the challenges that we’ve had with all these mandates. And the United States hasn’t been as bad, anywhere near as bad Canada thanks to the federalism that we have here and the governors.

And, frankly, to the Supreme Court standing up against Biden’s unconstitutional mandate, unlike what’s going on in Canada. But it doesn’t surprise me, the more I thought about it, that it would be this group that would end up having the most significant battle for freedom that we’ve maybe seen anywhere, right, when you think about what these Canadian truckers are doing and the bravery involved in what they’re doing.

BUCK: It’s spreading also all over the world.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: It’s about much more than just vaccine mandates, folks, and that’s what they don’t want you to know. That’s what the apparatus of the Democrats, the media, the Trudeau tyranny, they don’t want you to know that. It’s one of the reasons why Trudeau, he’s just smearing them outright.

Another thing again hat tip to this Bari Weiss Substack and this excellent piece in it, Clay. We mentioned this earlier in the week, so people are actually finding out stuff of course as always from listening to this show that they won’t hear on NPR or the CBC or CNN or whatever. There are a lot of people from very diverse backgrounds involved in the protest.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: They are Sikh truckers who are standing side by side with their brothers and sisters of the trucking community there. There are immigrants from all over the world. There are Korean immigrants. There are people who have come to Canada just like many immigrants come to America to find something better, to find freedom, and they are appalled at what has happened under covid.

This is from the piece. Some of these truckers “sound like Ivan, 46, who emigrated, with his wife, Tatiana, from Ukraine to build a new life in New Brunswick, in eastern Canada. ‘We came to Canada to be free — not slaves,’ he said. ‘We lived under communism, and, in Canada, we’re now fighting for our freedom.'” That’s what these guys and girls and everyone who’s showing up to help them, that’s what these people in the freedom convoy are really pushing for.

At us using, finally, levers that the system relies on to force the system to stop being oppressive. And think about this. For what reason? This is what we’ve been telling everybody. What is the…? What has been the benefit of all this, of the chalk outlines around people in public parks, of the arrest of paddle borders, of masking up between bites, of double masking alone outside. Has there been any upside to any of this, Clay?

CLAY: It’s going to be and already is the biggest public policy failure of our lives, and we talk about the moments that crystallized how absurd it is. And I saw you tweeting about some of these things earlier, but to me it’s putting police tape, caution tape around our kids’ playground. I just want you to think about what we have done to kids masking-wise, but how irrational was it that in March and April.

Even in Tennessee where I live and even in suburban Williamson County which is one of the most rational places possible, everybody’s got their kids out of the house here, got a lot of energy. You’re trying to find things for them to do when school suddenly shut down in March. Buck, I just remember taking my kids for a walk in the neighborhood and getting to the local playground and it was covered in caution tape.

And you were not supposed to put your kids on the swings. You weren’t supposed to let them go down the slide. They took basketball rims off of hoops all over America, Buck! They had janitors that they climbed up on ladders and unscrewed basketball rims to keep people from being able to shoot and play basketball in public parks.

They filled… Buck, they filled up skate parks with sand in California to keep skateboarders from being able to use the skate parks. How can you possibly, as a voter, ever vote for anyone who countenanced any of that behavior? This is why the midterms are so important to me.

Because if there aren’t consequences for idiotic, indefensible, authoritarian, imbecilic decisions, then what’s the point of having elections? You have to hold these people accountable, and you can’t let them do what they’re gonna try to do and argue, “Well, we just didn’t know! It was better that we took those decisions than to have had too much risk.”

BUCK: “It was the experts. We just passed it on to the experts.” That’s always been a central lie of all of this. They didn’t have to listening to any of the, quote, “experts.” These were politicians who are making these decisions. They’re making it based on political considerations. The original poisoning of the well of truth around covid was the need to defeat Donald Trump in 2020.

That then was all that the left, all that the apparatus needed to justice maximum fearmongering, maximum hysteria creation. And then it really became, I think, later on clear to them that they had to just keep riding it because they couldn’t really control it. They couldn’t really direct it anymore; so what else were they going to do?

It became less useful over time, and now I think they realize they’ve got a lot of people that are Democrat base voters who are psychologically scarred. But, Clay, to the point you’re making about accountability — and this is why we will continue to hammer this — you heard Dr. Marty Makary in the first hour. They will do this again. They are not done.

There are people for whom the subjugation of not just your rights, really the subjugation of your spirit — I mean, the absolute crushing of human freedom and basic dignity — that the Fauci apparatus engaged in during this whole process, and all the misery and pain they put people through. Totally unnecessarily out of arrogance, out of arrogance that they always had answers.

They’ll apply this to whatever else they can get away with. They’ll apply this to climate change, to stopping gun violence — the same mentality, the same absolutism — which is why this is, for me, an existential issue in our society. We either win this argument, Clay, or none of the other arguments are really gonna matter. The government doesn’t get to say, “Our people are scared.

“So you have no rights anymore.” We’ve seen what that starts to look like. We’ve seen the closure of the churches. We’ve seen the “You can’t hug your dying parents in the hospital because there’s a virus that we say is too scary.” We’ve seen children being forced to be abused eight hours a day by the state. In Australia, for heaven’s sake, we’ve seen internment camps!

Not just for those who have the virus, those who could theoretically have the virus. Imagine we get a variant — and I don’t mean to even bring this up, but we get a variant — in a year or 10 years or 50 years that actually had a 3% or a 5% fatality rate, not a .03% fatality rate or .003%, whatever it is. Clay we would have true totalitarianism in this country in the blink of an eye.

Because we’ve already set in place the groundwork for it right now. Not enough pushback from us. We have to rely on truckers who work long hours and are underpaid north of the border up in the frozen parts of Canada to stand up for freedom in a way that’s rallying us here in this country. I’m so proud of them but at some level I’m also disappointed what’s gone on here, to be honest with you.

CLAY: Yeah, and I understand that.

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11 Feb 2022

BUCK: Is wokeness a form of madness?

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: I mean, an actual…?

CLAY: Yes. (laughing)

BUCK: Clay’s got an answer.

CLAY: The answer is yes. I’m gonna go ahead and say yes. I believe it. Yes.

BUCK: Is wokeness a form of madness? I like to address this one whenever we can. That’s one of the things we do here on this show. We try to give you just looking at things the way they are: Rationality, sanity in an insane world. This is making the rounds right now online and we just have to share it with you. It’s from the November 2021 Oxford Union debate.

So, this is from the U.K. Somehow, this has just started to get a lot of attention. But a feminist vegan advocate activist and author, which sounds like most of the women I end up going on dates with here in New York.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: But anyway…

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: It’s why I’m still unmarried, folks. Anyway…

CLAY: That’s why you need to live in the red states.

BUCK: I know.

CLAY: You need to live in the South.

BUCK: I gotta get out of here.

CLAY: We don’t have a lot of those people here.

BUCK: It’s crazy.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: (impression) “Excuse me? Whooo? What radio show do you do?”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: I’m like, “Oh, this isn’t gonna go well.” All of a sudden, everyone I’ve ever gone on a date with sounds like Hillary Clinton. “Hello!”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: Feminist, vegan, advocate, activist, author, sitting there saying, “This house…” The debate is called, “This house would move beyond meat.” We just gotta let you hear this, folks. This is wokeness taken to the Nth degree. Go for it.

For the woke, there is nothing that cannot be problematised. pic.twitter.com/RvnHIkf1NB

— Andrew Doyle (@andrewdoyle_com) February 10, 2022

BUCK: Clay, you’re hearing that for the first time.

CLAY: I’d not heard that before. You had heard that before. There’s so much insanity unspooling there. Where…? First of all, where are fish sexualized? At what point have you ever heard, “Man, you know what is really hot? When a girl cuts into a salmon!” I don’t ever remember that existing, right? I don’t remember the sexualization of fish eating. (laughing) Oh, well.

BUCK: There was that weird movie that won Best Picture where a woman has an affair with her aquarium pet, if you remember.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: What was that?

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: You know what I’m talking about. Just a few years ago! It was Best Picture. You know what I’m talking about, right? It was a human/fish hybrid. You guys… Into the Water or something it’s called.

CLAY: I didn’t see that one.

BUCK: The Shape of Water! The Shape of Water. Yes.

CLAY: The Shape of…? I don’t see… Look, if it’s not Pixar, Buck, the number of movies that I see now… I used to see every movie under the sun. Last year they had the Oscars, I don’t think I had seen a single Oscar-nominated film for Best Picture. Now, I’ve seen Encanto. I’ve seen all the different… I can’t even remember the different Pixar movies and Disney movies that have come out recently. But that woman, the reaction when she said that they… Look, let me take a step back.

BUCK: Clay, meat eating is sexist, white supremacist, misogynist! She fits everything into meat eating?

CLAY: I don’t even understand how you could argue that meat eating is white supremacy. So, I don’t understand how you can argue that eating fish is sexualized and everything else that she tried to do. But do white supremacists eat more meat than other white people or other…? All the connections here — you can hear my brain almost exploding — I don’t even understand how they’re made, right? There’s not even a thread to connect them.

BUCK: I think the point is the connections are irrelevant. It’s just that you’re willing to make them.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: The point is that you find every ism that is fashionable on the left now to be obsessed with and you find one thing and you say, “Well, this is a representation.” It’d be like sitting on here say, “Clay, honestly alternate side of the street parking in New York City is sexist, racist, misogynist, white supremacy and neo-Nazism” —

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: — and have a room full of academics at Oxford clapping for you. I totally see how alternate side of the street parking is all of those things. This is what happened to the elite academy, right? Not even just in general. This is the place we’re supposed to look to to be intellectual thought leaders.

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Joe Hurls Insult at Lester Holt for Easy Inflation Question

11 Feb 2022

.@LesterHoltNBC: “…back in July you said inflation was going to be temporary. I think a lot of Americans are wondering what your definition of temporary is.”

President Biden: “You’re being a wise guy with me a little bit.” pic.twitter.com/acWhRDhLPn

— NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt (@NBCNightlyNews) February 11, 2022

BUCK: Notice how Joe Biden gets surly when he’s asked a very straightforward question here, which is, “What’s your definition of ‘temporary’?” He said it was temporary, inflation would be temporary.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: So, Lester Holt is asking, not… This is not an aggressive question. We know what an aggressive question sounds like ’cause we had Donald Trump as president for four years and the press was basically like, “Why are you murdering everyone?” And he asked a very straightforward question. “You’re being a wise guy here.” And you sit there, Clay, you have to ask yourself, “I wouldn’t want this guy to be in charge of my car dealership, and yet he’s president of the United States.”

CLAY: I agree completely with that, and we were just talking about the age, but I also think wisdom has not come with age for Joe Biden because virtually every choice that he’s making, the Bidas Touch is a disaster. And the question is a good one, not only for Joe Biden, but he keeps talking about all these experts who tell him that inflation is gonna get better.

To be fair, every time inflation goes up, what are the headlines, Buck? “Experts Surprised That Inflation Exceeds Their Expectations.” If you’re wrong every single month many times in a row as the economists have been as it pertains to inflation — and also in predicting that inflation might become an issue when we were spending trillions of dollars like crazy — shouldn’t you adjust your examinations and not be surprised?

If, every day the mailman came and he punched me in the face, the first time he punched me in the face I’d be like, “Man. I didn’t expect to get punched by the mailman when I went out to go get my mail.” But, if he punched me in the face one day, and then the next day I showed up and he punched me in the face again, which is what inflation basically —

BUCK: You guys have aggressive mailmen in Tennessee, I gotta say.

CLAY: Yeah, I’m just saying. At some point if something that you don’t expect keeps happening, you should be adjusting your expectations. So, go back and look at every time these inflation results come out; all of the experts are surprised. Well, when do you say, “You know what? Maybe inflation’s a real deal. Maybe we should expect it as opposed to being surprised by it every time.”

BUCK: The only class of experts in American society that I think might still make the epidemiologist-Fauci-CDC apparatus look good by comparison are, quote, “mainstream economists.” They get it wrong every time.

CLAY: They get everything wrong.

BUCK: Everything wrong.

CLAY: Everything.

BUCK: All the time. Well, because they say what they think they need to say, generally, to get on TV and to get a profile going. But economists can’t predict squat.

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Will Hillary Be the Democrat Nominee in 2024?

11 Feb 2022

CLAY: I want to circle back around Jen Psaki style on this idea of Hillary Clinton reemerging. She is speaking at a New York Democratic Party event. She has had her operatives in the media float the idea that she is the right choice for Democrats going forward as you saw and see Joe Biden continues to stumble, polling 41% approval from CNN yesterday.

The Lester Holt interview, Buck, I saw the clips from that thing. It did not go well with Biden as almost every interview that he does — go figure — does not go well. We could be, as you just said to finish off the first hour of this program, going back to the future all over again with Trump versus Hillary 2024, the rematch, after taking 2020 out.

The more I think about it, if Joe Biden doesn’t run — and we’re talking a lot about what the midterm outcome is gonna be in November. But remember, Biden probably by February or so in ’23 — that is about a year from now — is going to have to make a decision about whether or not he’s running for reelection. Again, I would bet by around this time next year Biden will officially announce or not.

If he announces that he’s not running, I think Hillary’s gonna be the nominee. Just think about it, Buck. Kamala is a disaster, and it cancels out the woman angle that it would be sexist if she’s not the nominee. And honestly Hillary’s way more qualified, probably, even if you are a Kamala Harris supporter. Mayor Pete is never going to be the nominee, and it’s as if no one will even say why.

It’s because the overwhelming majority of black people who are voting in the Democratic primary are not going to pick a gay guy to be representative of the Democratic Party. It’s as if people won’t even mention that. But all you have to do is look at the results of the South Carolina primary and look at the lack of support that Mayor Pete had from black voters.

He is not going to be the standard-bearer, and who else is there? I mean, Michelle Obama, I guess. But that’s their like, you know, fantasy candidate. Doesn’t seem like she wants it or is willing to do it. Who else is there, Buck? If Biden isn’t running, I think it has to be Hillary.

BUCK: So a lot of this will be determined — and obviously there’s quite a bit of speculation here, and in politics that’s a thing that you do sometimes. But a lot of this is gonna be determined, I think, by how the midterm election goes, right? ‘Cause here’s what ends up happening. If the Democrats lose big in the midterms, how does Biden turn things around between now and when people will be thinking about who the next president of the United States should be?

It seems almost impossible. And in that situation, doesn’t it make more sense for the Democrats to put forward a different candidate and Biden can credibly claim — ’cause he’s almost 80 — that for health reasons… He had said before he would run for one term. People forget that. He said I’ll do one term and then of course changed his mind after he actually got the job.

So, yeah, it certainly adds up as a possibility. But here’s I think the problem, Clay. The Democrats then face the reality of the redo of 2016. That’s not what they want, right? So a redo of 2016 would seem to favor especially if it were Trump, would seem to favor the Republican. But, you know, we don’t even know. We could have… We’ll be talking to the former president soon I think about this.

CLAY: Yeah. We’re gonna break some news on that soon. But here’s the thing, Buck. I think we can reliably say the midterms are not gonna go well, right? It’s a question of how badly they’re gonna go. I know you get nervous ’cause they’re nine months away.

BUCK: I hate celebrating early. I think it’s so devastating psychologically. You never want to be the guy — here you go, Clay — who’s high stepping into the end zone and gets tackled at the 2-yard line. You know what I mean?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Sports.

CLAY: I understand the nervousness and the apprehension, even, over what in the world could happen, given what we’ve just been through in 2020 and 2021 nobody saw this covid mesa rising and kind of taking over the country. But I do think we’re not discussing enough — and I mean the larger media apparatus — how quickly Biden is going to have to make a decision right after the midterms regardless of what happens in them as to whether or not he’s gonna run.

‘Cause, think about, we’ve never had the situation where we’ve had a first-term president and we were unclear whether or not he would be running for the second term. I can’t even think of a time… We had the situation, obviously, with Lyndon Johnson where he says, “I’m not going to be running for reelection.”

But when you really look at it, it’s virtually unheard of from president to not be locked and loaded; hey, we know he’s running for reelection. So I think that is going to be a fascinating component here. And he’s gonna have to make that decision really fast. By this next year we’re gonna know whether Biden’s running or not.

BUCK: I feel like you know all these guys. Do we have any Vegas odds on this? Do we have other prop bets on whether Biden is going to step down or let someone else take over the leadership of the Democratic Party before or maybe in the next election cycle?

CLAY: Hillary is surging in the markets in terms of her likelihood to be elected president, and I don’t mean… Right now, the Trump is favored pretty substantially to win the 2024 election. So you can’t bet on elections officially the United States. But in England, they take all sorts of political wagers.

I love to look at the odds markets and just see what they’re expecting. And so Trump is the favorite right now; DeSantis is the second biggest favorite in American politics for Republican. And then you’ve got Biden, Kamala, and Hillary are the three that are in the mix for Democrats right now from an oddsmaker perspective.

BUCK: When was it decided that everyone who runs for president all of the sudden has to be in their seventies? It is a remarkable shift that we’ve seen. It really is among politico Boomers, Nancy Pelosi and —

CLAY: Chuck Schumer.

BUCK: — Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer. Go down the list. Deep into their seventies, even into their eighties to the point now where we say, “h, can Ron DeSantis run for president? Guy’s only like 43 or something.” (laughing) I mean, people in their forties and fifties, throughout history (laughing), there are plenty of them who have been president.

CLAY: The most controversial thing I’ve said on the show, maybe, was that we should have an upper-age limit for president. You remember we had all those angry callers that day when I was like, “Hey, we gotta lower level age limit, 35.”

BUCK: There are 85-year-olds can run six-minute miles and do push-ups that would beat either of us who listen to the show, Clay, so you gotta watch that one.

CLAY: I don’t have any doubt. But if we had like 35 to 65, a 30-year window, it’s funny to me that we have an age limit on the lower side and no age limit at all on the other side, because Joe Biden… Think about this: If they drag him across — I like to say “Weekend at Bernie’s style” — he’s gonna be 86 if he serves two terms, Buck.

BUCK: That’s remarkable.

CLAY: There’s no… He couldn’t do it. He couldn’t! I don’t believe he would be capable.

BUCK: It’s irresponsible —

CLAY: Now!

BUCK: (laughing) Yes. It was irresponsible before he took office. To put him in office for four more years? But look at how reckless they are. Clay, part of the problem we have here — and I feel like everyone with us now, all of our people all across the country, all of our team listening to this, we’re trying to look at this through the lens of people that live in reality and see things for they are and make adjustments based upon what’s actually happening and trying to be rational.

They’re considering firing… I just saw this on CNN as we’re sitting here talking. They’re considering firing 3,000 New York City workers today over vaccine issues? We’re still even having this conversation? We start to get in this place of, okay, so everyone kind of gets that they’re wrong about the stuff and living back in reality. I just bring it up because with Joe Biden, we sit here and we say, “t’s almost like elder abuse watching this guy sometimes on stage and on TV.”

He just had another (impression), “You know, Iraq — I mean, Afghanistan! I mean, Syria. I mean…” Yeah, look, that happens, and I don’t want to be the guy who’s poking fun at somebody ’cause we’re all going there, man. We’re all going there, if we are lucky enough to get there to that place when we’re a little older and it takes a little more time to get some stuff out there. But the libs don’t care. You say the Weekend at Bernie’s. They don’t care. They’ll just push him out there.

CLAY: I just look, Buck, at how much younger, healthier presidents age. Go look at George W. Bush. Go look at Barack Obama. Go look at those guys when they went into office and how much different they looked when they got out. Biden went into office, Buck, at 78, and now they’re gonna take him on the campaign trail in ’23 and then run him on a full campaign in ’24 at 82? I just don’t see any way that it is possible.

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BUCK: Clay and I just want to make some sense of what’s really going on here. You know it’s politics; it’s not science. You know that. That’s clear already. Where does good old Joe Biden think that he sees the politics right now? What is his view, his version of all of this? He says, essentially, that he thinks they’re moving to… Let’s see. Play clip 23. We’ve got it.

NBC’s Lester Holt: “Do you acknowledge…a restlessness and leaders bowing to the political winds?”

Biden: “Oh, I do. Omicron and the variant, all the variants have had a profound impact on the psyche of the American people.” pic.twitter.com/hH8axPfKfK

— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) February 11, 2022

BUCK: Clay, the missing of promises and weddings and funerals and all, now they want to talk about how…? They made us do all this stuff for the last year that was totally unnecessary. You could argue it was unnecessary from the very beginning. For what?

CLAY: I love this, too, because first of all, Joe Biden is not leading. So when you’re asked is it too soon, what should be going on, and you don’t really give an answer, we were talking off air, Buck, before we started the show how many blue states left have not begun ,to lift restrictions? I mean, just in recent vintage history right, this week we got New York, we got California, we’ve got Massachusetts, Delaware, Nevada, all these states that were won by Democrats in 2020 are effectively ending their restrictions.

And this morning when I woke up, there was a headline from the New York Times, and it said, “Follow the Science?” Question mark. This is the New York Times! Opening paragraph: “The CDC describes medium-rare hamburgers as “undercooked” and dangerous. The agency also directs Americans to avoid raw cookie dough and not to eat more than a teaspoon or so of salt every day. And the CDC tells sexually active women of childbearing age not to drink alcohol unless they are on birth control.”

The point is “follow the science” is something that almost no one does on every issue, right, and really what the CDC should have been given some deference to is balancing risk-reward. And we can be upset at the experts, and I am really upset at the experts, the Faucis of the world, the Leana Wens — the “experts” in quotation marks here — the Rochelle Walenskys, all these people, Buck.

If you wonder why no one trusts or watches @cnn here’s their health “expert” arguing against herself on covid. Enjoy: pic.twitter.com/6QwmQwsFsS

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) February 10, 2022

But, to me, I’m angrier at politicians because, when you really boil it down, what you are voting for is a politician’s judgment, and you can’t just — as Joe Biden tried to do there as well. You can’t just avoid making decisions as a leader by saying you’re going to defer and “follow the science,” because the science, as you and I both know, has been messy throughout and that completely obviates the need of you because we vote for politicians.

We don’t vote for Dr. Fauci, unfortunately. I’d love to see him removed from office. We don’t vote for the CDC director. These are people that are enabled and empowered by politicians, which is why we have to hold them all accountable and have a destructive midterms for Democrats in terms of actually making there be some consequences for their abject failures here.

BUCK: The New York Times coming out now among many other outlets, Clay, making arguments that we have been making —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — going on now two years, certainly a year, year and a half, depending on the specific argument we’re talking about. And what everyone is seeing right now is the realization — and I do think it is sweeping across the country — that somehow the bureaucrats who want to literally tell you what temperature to order your cheeseburger have been able to shut down your church, mask up your kids, shut down your business.

Make you get one shot, two shots, three shots, maybe four shots. The people who tell you oysters can kill you — technically, true but so can drinking too much water too fast, by the way. You can look that one up. Those are the people who have been in charge of every aspect of our society under the promise that they were going to “flatten the curve,” which they failed to do, “stop the spread,” which they failed to do, save large amounts of human life, which they also failed to do.

So what exactly have we gone through? You sit here and you say, what was the tradeoff, Clay? I mean, Fauci is gonna be walking around guaranteed the next six to 12 months, particularly the next 6 to 9 months before the midterms. They’re talking about awards for him. You’re gonna see Fauci walking around with more medals than the generalissimo on his chest because they have to pump this guy up because he became their front for all of these actions.

CLAY: Yeah. And you’re right. And we talked about this yesterday. It’s starting even earlier than I thought it would, but the clear goal here… Don’t mistake what’s going on. This is a definite narrative pivot in favor of arguing, “We declare victory, we won,” and they’re going to pretend that they actually have managed to succeed against covid.

You’re gonna tried to see Biden take a victory lap. He tried to take a victory lap, Buck, last year. Remember July 4th, when he tried to declare independence from covid, and then you had the Delta variant and then you had Omicron? So who knows. There may be another variant coming down the pike that could create a major issue for everyone.

But as we’ll talk to Dr. Marty Makary about, at this point almost everyone has either had covid, is vaccinated, or in some way has some form of immunity against it and so that’s I think probably the lasting benefit of Omicron is it effectively ended any argument that we were gonna do away with covid. Now, I didn’t see this happening so quickly where every Democratic state collusion, it feels like…

All of these Democratic governors who had been locking down their states — Connecticut, Illinois, New York, California, you name it — all of a sudden they came out this week and effectively started to end all of their mandates. Even though, as you pointed out yesterday, Buck, we’re over two times as many cases of covid today as we had last year at this time, and also there are more deaths on a daily basis right now than last year at this time.

BUCK: Isn’t it amazing how many times you’ve heard even just over the last six months…? We know they said they know how to stop this virus. No, they don’t, actually, and we’ve really known this from the beginning. The history of stopping aerosol used viruses in human beings is not one of state success. It’s not a… The virus does what it does; it spreads.

People try to deal with it; their immune systems, hopefully, can fight it. They promised us if we listen that they would avoid this whole winter that we went through. I think that’s part of why, Clay, people are just saying, “Hold on a second. Look at what just happened. Look at what we went through this year alone under Biden.” More deaths under Biden than under Trump. How is that possible, given the vaccine?

CLAY: Way more. Way more. And no end in sight. And remember how out of touch Joe Biden has been regarding covid. Buck, when he took office, he said if everybody would just wear a mask for a hundred days, covid would go away. And people just pretend that that never happened, right? They never bring up these arguments. Remember he said in July, as recently as July of last year, “Hey, if you get the shot, if you get the covid vaccine, you won’t get it and you won’t spread it.”

Even long after it was clear that that was still occurring, he’s continued to try to argue this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated when the data doesn’t support that in any way. And I think all the moms have finally had it. I think this argument that the kids are not being impacted, we finally have won, and you’ve got the mom revolution, which I think is gonna sweep through the country and destroy Democrats in the midterms.

BUCK: Yeah. The closest thing… I think this should be said: The closest thing that we have had had to the freedom convoy in America is the mom revolution at school board meetings and at schools in general — and we mean dads too, obviously, but the parental revolution.

CLAY: Moms are driving. I went as a dad to speak but the ones that, by and large, have really gone viral, I think moms connect with everybody in a way that dads might not with the righteous indignation. Does that make sense? Like when you watch a dad and he’s angry I don’t think it connects in the same way that an angry mom does, if that makes any sense.

BUCK: Yeah. I totally think that the optics of this also with the Biden regime, it’s one thing when they tell you and me, “Shut up, peasant, wear your mask.” It’s another thing when a mom who has a child who perhaps has some developmental delays or is having trouble in school is saying, this is hurting my kid. And surly bureaucrats who have been paid to sit at home for months and months on end during the pandemic ’cause they’re so scared tell the mom to shut up. That’s a different thing, right? That hits differently, I think, for a lot of people.

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Asked about his historic inflation crisis, Biden calls the reporter "a wise guy" and blames inflation on "the lack of computer chips." pic.twitter.com/X2IwYf3OXB

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) February 10, 2022

Federalist: Democrats Are Conveniently ‘Done’ With Covid Just In Time For The 2022 Midterms

Washington Examiner: Democrats want voters to forget their COVID-19 mandates and lockdown fanaticism

HotAir: NYT: Do you *really* “follow the science” — or do reasonable risk balancing?

New York Times: Follow the Science? If only it were so easy

Daily Caller: ‘Did They Think We’re Stupid?’: Jesse Watters Grills Democrats For Sudden ‘Change Of Heart’ On COVID-19

New York Post: Biden snaps at ‘wise guy’ Lester Holt for noting how president was wrong about inflation

ZeroHedge: This Was The Biggest Rate Shock Since Volcker’s Intermeeting Rate Hike In 1979

HotAir: Feelgood video of the day: Las Vegas kids celebrate lifting of school mask mandate

BizPacReview: Father is violently thrown out of school board meeting for not wearing a mask: ‘That’s assault!’

Legal Insurrection: CNN Poll: 57% of Americans Consider Biden’s First Year a Failure

Kids in Las Vegas react to hearing they don’t have to wear masks in school any more. pic.twitter.com/RGc3hsvX75

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) February 11, 2022

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Breitbart: GiveSendGo Defies Fascist Canadian Govt. Order to Freeze Freedom Convoy Trucker Funds

Daily Mail: Whitmer Urges Canadian Authorities To Take ‘Necessary’ Steps, End Freedom Convoy Blockade Of Ambassador Bridge

PJ Media: Around the World, Authorities Are Cracking Down on ‘Freedom Convoys’

ZeroHedge: Trudeau Says Restrictions Are Necessary To Prevent Further Restrictions

The people who want applause for agreeing to suspend- not end forever- masking policies in some places now

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Joe Biden really doesn’t like it when you ask him questions.pic.twitter.com/xP63JkOai3

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For the woke, there is nothing that cannot be problematised. pic.twitter.com/RvnHIkf1NB

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So, the Biden regime just hired this human as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Spent Fuel and Waste Disposition in the Office of Nuclear Energy for the U.S. Department of Energy.pic.twitter.com/6f6hmuZEbp

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