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C&B Honor the Founding Father of Conservative Talk Radio

17 Feb 2022

BUCK: We wanted to take a minute or two — or more, of course — first here to have a moment of remembrance. ‘Cause one year ago we lost the Founding Father of conservative talk radio, Rush Limbaugh. As he used to put it, he was “a man, a legend, a way of life,” doing what he was born to do with half his brain “tied behind his back just to make it fair.”

He exercised his “talent on loan from God” for over three decades before succumbing to stage 4 lung cancer last year, a battle he fought right to the end behind the Golden EIB Mic. Rush was larger than life in the radio universe, but he also never wanted to make it about him. He was truly focused on the conservative cause while also having more fun than any “human being should be allowed to have.”

Clay, I remember when we were first told together that we would have the great honor and the great responsibility of just trying to take up the fight, ’cause we both knew right away — we looked at each other and said — there’s no such thing as replacing Rush Limbaugh. He’s the greatest that ever lived, the greatest that will be in this medium of radio. But I remember you looked at me and we said, “We’re gonna do our very best.”

CLAY: That’s exactly right, and I know we’re gonna talk to Kathryn, Rush’s widow, here in a little bit on the show. And over the months that we have been sitting behind a couple of pairs of golden microphones, as you well said, nobody can fill Rush’s shoes, but hopefully each of us can fill one of them. And that was the idea that Julie Talbott had — who made the decision to put us in and had been working with Rush for decades before and doing such a fabulous job.

What she knew and what Rush knew was the battles that he had been fighting were only going to be accelerating in terms of their intensity, and I know many of you out there listening right now are thinking about every time you believe it can’t get crazier, it can’t get wilder than it is right now, over the past year it has. And Rush was maybe the foremost defender of American exceptionalism and the importance of America as a shining city on the hill in the history of media.

He knew that the battles were going to go on long after he was gone — and, frankly, Buck, you and I both know that the battles will go on long after we’re gone too. And what is important is that Rush raised up a generation. I’m sure you’ve met so many of these people in the 10 months or so that we’ve been doing the show, Buck, all over the country who say not only, “I listened for a long time,” but I’m impressed by people who said, “I started listening when I was a young kid, and I grew up with Rush.”

There are a lot of people listening to us right now in their thirties, forties, and fifties — twenties, too — who listened with their parents in the car, who grew up, who had Rush as that constant voice in their ear. And we know that those people out there, one, tremendously missing Rush, but also the battle’s not stopping. And that’s why it was such an honor and a privilege for us to be bequeathed the opportunity to sit behind the golden microphone and talk to this audience that Rush grew over the past three decades.

BUCK: I’m in talk radio because of Rush Limbaugh, and the amazing thing is that there are so many other people — other hosts that folks listening to us now would know — who publicly say the same thing, privately say the same thing that Rush was the one who made it feel so powerful, important, but so connected — made it feel like you could gather together millions of like-minded patriots, conservatives, friends, every day listening all across the country.

There was something deeply special about that. I’ve always said Rush, in that sense, was a force multiplier. We’re sitting here because of the empire of talk radio, of course, that he built. But beyond that, the movement that he really in so many ways was — if not the originator or the creator of — a foremost general, one of the guys who made such a difference for so many. And so we do want to take time today to honor Rush’s legacy and his memory on the one-year anniversary of his passing.

We want to strive to honor that legacy by continuing to do what he would want us to do, to pursue excellence, to be happy warriors, and to live life. We’ve only got one, as he would often remind all of you when you were listening. You remember that. Most of all, to have fun and laugh. You gotta never forget to laugh.

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Kathryn Limbaugh Joins Clay and Buck to Remember Rush

17 Feb 2022

RUSH: I have to tell you, you know, a lot of people get do-overs. A lot of people have false starts. I had my share. Got this one right. Thank. God. Got this one right. She’s just been a gigantic pillar of strength and just does everything imaginable and possible to keep things as upbeat and positive as they can be. And I know it’s hard on her. It’s gotta be hard. It’s gotta be devastating on her. But I never see that. She always hides it. She’s always put me first anyway, but in the last six months or so, I haven’t known what being put first is until these past six months. Truly blessed by God with her in my life.

BUCK: That was Rush, the greatest radio host of all time, speaking about his rock — the person always there for him, always supporting him — his wife, Kathryn Limbaugh. And we are very honored as we are paying homage to Rush today on the one-year anniversary of his passing to have Kathryn Limbaugh joining us right now. Kathryn, thank you so much.

KATHRYN: Thank you very much. I just heard Rush’s voice there, and he said that I always am able to hide it. I’m not for sure I’m gonna be able to hide it after that, but I will try my best here.

BUCK: Well, we really appreciate you being with us and everyone listening, all of Rush’s friends, really — his extended family, his listeners for decades across the country — really want to hear from you. We knew that today. They would want to hear from you. So, thank you for making the time for us. And we get so many emails from people asking — EIB listeners for years, Kathryn, asking — first off, how are you doing?

KATHRYN: Well, thank you for asking. I’m doing as well as can be expected. It’s been a very, very challenging year, as it has been for everyone listening. We lost an incredible hero, an incredible patriot, an American icon that cannot be replaced in any way. So I think it’s been difficult. But I have been comforted by so many wonderful prayers from this audience, from people all over the world who have sent wonderful gifts and letters and prayers, and I’m deeply, deeply grateful for that. They certainly have helped through a very challenging time.

CLAY: Kathryn, it’s an honor for Buck and I to get to sit in this chair where we are every single day getting to hopefully continue your husband’s legacy, and I know that it’s been a difficult year for you, but you have been working as hard as you can to help to preserve Rush’s legacy and grow it in so many fantastic ways. What exactly are you doing, and how can everyone out there listening help that to continue to flourish?

KATHRYN: Well, thank you so much. As I said, Rush was just an incredible pioneer, an incredible American patriot that will never, ever be forgotten. But I wanted his legacy to continue in the best way that we possibly can, and that is to live out his ideals. And the best way that I can think of is to provide scholarships to younger people who have worked incredibly hard, who share a lot of same values that Rush represented, and we created a new website. It’s called OfficialRushLimbaugh.com.

There, there’s a lot of tributes to Rush, there’s information about the scholarships. We just recently awarded the first-ever Rush Limbaugh Scholarship. It’s an American Patriot Scholarship — which, of course, is fitting — to an incredible young man who just represented Rush so well. He was formerly in the military. He had been through a lot of challenges in his life, and he said that he wants to carry on what Rush stood for. And that, to us, just stood out.

And awarded the first-ever scholarship. We plan to award many more throughout the upcoming year and years. We want to be sure that Rush is always revered in the highest possible light, that he remains America’s Winston Churchill, as we all know he is. And just the incredible leader. He taught us all so much that it’s up to us to carry forward and to continue in our lives as best we possibly can.

BUCK: Kathryn, Rush was known for his insight and prescience, certainly among his listeners, but just across the media landscape, the conservative media landscape. Everyone said, “Wow. Rush, he saw it coming.” Are there certain things that over the last year or so just as a person who knew him best had to say to yourself, “Rush called it; he knew it was coming”?

KATHRYN: Oh, he absolutely did. He was an incredible genius that way. He could tell us what was gonna happen in the weeks and months ahead. I think that he very much thought that this was how the country was probably going to go under, unfortunately, Biden’s presidency. He obviously very much wanted President Trump to be in office. I know he was deeply disappointed and upset with everything that happened in January while he was still here to be a part of it and see it.

But he knew that the country was gonna take a turn, the policies were going to go south, we were going to be facing harder days. He predicted and knew that. He could tell you well in advance the economy was going to go down as it has, the borders were gonna go into a complete mess, our strength in the world was going to take a hit.

He would have said all of those things and more. And the most important thing is he would have brought an element of humor to it. He would have made us all laugh about the fact that the car was somewhat driving off the cliff (laughs) and now he inevitably is up in heaven looking down and saying, “Please, get us back on the right course.”

CLAY: Kathryn, you heard Rush talk about how much you meant for him. I think people would probably like to hear, when did you guys first meet and when did you think to yourself, “This is the guy that I want to be with?” Obviously, people experienced so much of him on the radio. But his personality went far beyond what he said on the radio every day. For people out there, what was that experience like in your private lives, and what was that moment where you knew, “This is the guy”?

KATHRYN: Sure. Rush and I met almost 20 years ago. We were first friends for several years, many years. Probably in his mind, he would say an eternity (laughing) because I implemented the buddy rule early on, and the reason for that was because he loved referring to The Buddy Rules and pretty much telling everybody about it. (laughs) But the reason for that is I wanted him to get to know me and I wanted to get to know him without any other clouding.

So in the early days, we were friends first. We became incredible partners. I think when I first learned of Rush, of course, I heard a lot that was said in the mainstream media, the negative connotation of him or the reputation of him that was said in the mainstream media. And as I got to know him personally, as I got to listen to his program day in, day out, as we became such close friends, I knew and lived with the greatest man that I could ever have imagined.

He was an incredible gentleman. He was incredibly funny. He pushed me to be the best possible version of myself, and I hope that I did that for him. We would talk for a lot of time in the evening well after the show and when he had a few minutes of not being involved with show prep and we would talk about the events of the day. I don’t think there’s anyone that I will ever speak to again that had that kind of genius to be able to comment on everything, everywhere.

He had an incredible mind. He, as I said before, made me laugh. I think early on I just knew how huge a heart he had, how generous he was, how he was just one of a kind. And he made an incredible impression on me from the very first day we met, and that just grew. I actually think this final year was his best year. He was the best version of himself. He was even stronger than he ever had been.

He was more in touch with everything around him that mattered, namely, our relationship and his relationship with his audience, with the radio program — and, of course, the country. But I would say I knew early on, but of course I didn’t admit to him (laughs) so we could implement The Buddy Rules for a period of time.

BUCK: Kathryn, we have more questions for you, if that’s all right — and really the audience has more questions ’cause they’ve been reaching out and they want us to check in, see how you’re doing and talk to you more — so can you give us a few more minutes, can we bring you back?

KATHRYN: Of course! Happy to.

BUCK: We’re gonna talk to Kathryn Limbaugh, Rush’s wife, about the legacy of the great man himself. We are remembering him on the one-year anniversary of his passing. We’re gonna come back to that in a moment.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Rush was a man who had tremendous courage, and he had tremendous principle — and if he believed in something, he’d talk about it. And who had an audience like him?

CLAY: Welcome back in, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. We are talking with Rush’s wife, Kathryn Limbaugh. And you just heard former President Donald Trump, 45 himself. We are going to be live at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday. Kathryn, I think that probably cues up a good opportunity here. What was Rush’s relationship like with President Trump, and what did it mean for President Trump to honor him at the State of the Union like he did?

KATHRYN: I see a lot of similarities between President Trump and Rush. They both didn’t need to do it. They both had lives that, in Rush’s case, he could retire, or President Trump could retire and continue in the business that he was in. But they both saw a larger purpose and a greater purpose, and they were willing to take arrows on behalf of the American people. And I think that they had a very unique bond in that way because they understood each other very well.

They both knew that they were at the tip of the spear in many ways. They both knew that they had to take the slanders and the arrows that were thrown at them in order to achieve the higher purpose. President Trump, off of camera — and not as widely known — he was so incredibly thoughtful throughout Rush’s entire illness. He would call probably more than anyone, including personal family, to check on Rush.

In the evening, after giving a speech somewhere, he would call Rush just to ask how he was doing. He wasn’t looking for feedback on the country. He wasn’t looking to see how he had done on a particular policy. He was just checking in on Rush, and I think — in many respects — they were peers in that regard. I hold President Trump in the highest regard for the honor that he bestowed on Rush.

That Medal of Freedom presentation was second to none. Rush was 100% speechless and touched. He was deeply honored. I said earlier that — to someone earlier that — that was a chance for Rush to see how many people cared for him. To be honored in such a way, so globally by President Trump meant everything to us, and it’s something that I will never forget in all my life.

BUCK: Kathryn, you were a driving force behind the widely acclaimed Rush Revere children’s book series. Are you hearing from young folks eager for you to continue with that? And also, do you have any advice for that next generation of young, up-and-coming conservatives?

KATHRYN: Yes. We hear from young Rush Revere readers all the time, and it’s really a highlight of our days to hear from young patriots all over the country. But we have five books right now. We are thinking about working on Book 6. We’re going to have to think about where Rush Revere is going to time travel to, but there’s a lot of topics going on right now. So I’m sure there’s certainly something that we could talk about in current events or in history.

But the Rush Revere series came about because we wanted to make American history fun and engaging for the younger demographic. Rush had such an incredible ability to speak to people one on one and break down very complex issues. We wanted that to translate into books for children — or young readers. It was really for the fifth-grade reading level, but we hear from people of much younger age and were older. But we wanted to make American history fun.

So through the magic of time travel, Rush Revere and his favorite sidekick horse, Liberty — who is a talking horse — would time travel back to key events in American history, whether it be the Mayflower or the Boston Tea Party or what have you. And they would engage with that particular event. They would talk to incredible patriots like George Washington. They became a part of history. And in that way, it made American history very fun. So, yes, we hear from young readers all over the country all of the time. We definitely want to continue, if we can, and probably will be working on Book 6 here in the in the future.

CLAY: Kathryn, we get a lot of questions from longtime listeners about your animals. We know you had three dogs and a cat. How are they doing?

KATHRYN: (laughing) Yes. This is a very, very important question (laughing) because it’s certainly top importance.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: But they’re wonderful. They’re our children in many respects. So we had four Old English Sheepdogs, and we had a cat, an Abyssinian cat. Unfortunately, two of our sheepdogs passed away unfortunately this year, and they joined Rush, but we since have gotten a new little sheepadoodle actually named Winston. (laughing)

So all of our dogs have very prominent names in history (laughing) ’cause we thought it was kind of funny just to call out to Winston, for example, and have him come running. (laughing) But they’re all doing very well. Rush loved, loved his cat Allie probably more than anything next to the radio — and perhaps family. But he loved this little cat, and she completely had him wrapped around (laughing) her finger. But they’re all doing well — and of course, we all miss Rush, and she certainly misses Rush a lot.

CLAY: Kathryn, what do you think Rush would want Buck and I to know? Last minute for you, advice for us going forward. What would he want us to know? And thank you for spending the time with us.

KATHRYN: I think he would just want you to do what you’re doing in terms of continuing conservative thought, continuing to have people live their best lives, to remain engaged, to continue to say how important the United States is, how important our Founding Fathers are. I think he would want you to have people actively engaged in politics, to remember November that’s coming up here soon, to remember 2024, and to call them out on things that need to be called out. And I know that you’re trying to do that and carry on in Rush’s honor, and that’s deeply appreciated.

BUCK: Kathryn, thank you so much for the time with us. We appreciate it — and we know that Rush listeners across the country are sending love and hugs to you. Thank you so much.

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Sean Hannity on Rush’s Enduring Legacy

17 Feb 2022

CLAY: We bring in now a guy who has had a longtime relationship with Rush Limbaugh as well. He is Sean Hannity. You might know him from his fantastic radio show that follows us as well as his show that airs every single night at 9 Eastern on Fox News. Sean, appreciate you joining us, and I’ve got to say right off the top: When did you first meet Rush? What kind of experience and relationship did you guys have, and what do you recall about it?

HANNITY: Oh, man. By the way, first congratulations to you guys.

CLAY: Thank you.

BUCK: Thank you.

HANNITY: When you follow the greatest of all time, it’s always hard ’cause naturally people will make comparisons. You guys have done phenomenally well, and I know Rush was never a zero-sum game guy. He always wanted everyone else to succeed. He never viewed his success based on the failure of others. Kathryn’s interview was great. She also did an interview with Ainsley on Fox & Friends.

CLAY: Yeah.

HANNITY: I think they had two hours on Fox Nation, which was amazing. The first time… He wouldn’t even remember the first time I met him. I was a local host in Atlanta from ’92 to ’96 before Fox even went on the air, and I went up to New York, and I just happened to visit the studios of WABC. I was up to do Phil Donahue’s show, and I popped my head into his office and I just said hello, and his brother David — who I love; he’s like family to me — had negotiated all my contracts.

So, we kind of arranged a quick hello, and he was nice. We did a contest once when he was doing his TV show and I brought listeners up to New York. We stayed at the Plaza Hotel. It wasn’t the greatest, but he was very gracious to me back then, and even during the live show called me down. He was selling Rush ties at the time and gave me one of his ties, which were really, you know, very, very unique and designed by him I think at the time.

I think we all have really… We all owe him a debt of gratitude. When Rush started syndication, nobody thought syndicated radio in 1988 would work. And here’s this guy, was very successful in Sacramento, California, and he comes to New York — the number-one radio market in the entire country. He has to do a two-hour local show. He originally started his syndicated show as a two-hour show, and all of a sudden…

I had just started in radio myself a year earlier, and I remember when somebody came up to me and told me, “Hey, Rush Limbaugh, have you heard this guy?” and I’m like, “No, who’s Rush?” and he was on a local station. I was in Santa Barbara, California, just starting my career at UCSB. They rightly threw me out of the school and ran me out of town, which got me my first professional gig in Huntsville, Alabama. “You gotta hear this guy. He’s a riot.”

He would do these things like the Homeless Update, and he was funny, he was smart, he was a conservative. He just pops out of the radio. And from that day forward, it was just obvious to anybody who would listen to him how amazingly gifted and talented he was. The thing that I always took away from Rush is he always had a unique take on whatever the issue of the day was, something that nobody else would ever think of.

I can’t tell you how many times… I always liked to listen to his opening monologues, and whatever the topic of the day was, he would express it and bring up a point of view and I’m like, “Why doesn’t my brain think like that?” He was that gifted. And when he passed away a year ago, look, it was rough for everybody, and I said at the time that he’s irreplaceable — and he is — and I said at the time, “What would Rush want us to do?”

He’d want us all to up our game and stay in the fight. He was a patriot. He loved this country. He believed in the individual. He loved freedom. He loved capitalism. He loved our Constitution. He saved the AM band, and he also reinvigorated all things conservative — and this is at the beginning of the end of Ronald Reagan conservatism. Newt Gingrich will tell you that 1994, the victory that swept the country for the first time in 40 years Republicans took back Congress. That wouldn’t have happened without Rush Limbaugh.

He led the way. I was a local host in Atlanta. I was the emcee of Newt’s event that night at the Cobb Galleria, and that was the Newt. That was the night. Imagine, 40 years in the wilderness, right? And Republicans got back in power. Rush played a very big part of it, and so he was the intellectual center of conservatism. But he also simultaneously… Music moved from the AM band to the FM band, and AM radio was beginning to die, and then all of these stations start converting over to talk radio or news-talk radio.

And he played the most pivotal role in all of that. He only could do three hours a day (chuckles), so these stations had 21 other hours a day that they needed to program, and I remember filling in for him him. That was an opportunity of a lifetime. I’m in the beginning of my opening monologue, and the Golden EIB Mic — and it is golden — falls down right off the hinges!

CLAY: (laughing)

HANNITY: It’s laying on the desk. I stretch my neck down to finish the monolog; I’m thinking, “Okay, 600 stations. This is not going particularly well,” and I finished, and Rush I remember he comes back, and he goes, “Sean Hannity dented the Golden EIB Mic,” just typical Rush with a great sense of humor.

CLAY: (laughing)

HANNITY: And I’m grateful to him, more than anything else. I still have a hard time understanding that he’s been gone a year. I still expect to hear him — I love that you kept his music — and it’s such a loss for the country, for conservatism. And the one thing that we all learned about Rush — and I said it at the time when he passed away — we now know what Rush’s bucket list was.

When he announced that he had advanced stage 4 lung cancer, I think so most people probably were like me. You probably got on the internet. You probably started Googling, “What is the latest advancements?” We know, for example, that leukemias that used kill people 30 years, they have a 95, 96% chance of saving people. What’s the latest on lung cancer? I did my reading. There was nothing good that I was real seeing, and he would go and take these extremely harsh treatments.

And his only goal was not to check off a box on his bucket list. His only bucket list was to get back on the microphone, behind the microphone, back on the air, and talk to his audience. And I think that spoke volumes about him. That was his life’s mission, his life’s purpose — I would even argue, his life’s destiny. That was what he was born to do. I got a political cartoon, Clay. I wish I remembered the guy’s name.

It’s so beautiful, such a great gift, and I have it in my office. It’s Rush at the Pearly Gates — and he has in his hands TALENT. It says the word “TALENT,” and it says, “I’m here to return” TALENT, ’cause people used to take what he said — it was tongue-in-cheek — “With talent on loan from God,” he had this booming voice. And then liberals, they would like bubble and fizz like Alka-Seltzer at everything he said. It cracked me up.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: Hey, Sean, it’s Buck. I just want to know if you think Rush could tell his audience anything today, what do you think it would be?

HANNITY: I think he would want… Look, Ronald Reagan said America’s but one generation away — freedom is one generation away — from extinction. The thing that drove Rush more than anything else was the passion and the love that he had for this country. He was God, family, country. That was Rush Limbaugh, and he embodied all of that. Radio is… Look, I do radio and TV. You guys do radio and TV.

They’re very different mediums. And on radio, it’s a heart medium, and people will sense your sincerity, and they can detect a phony pretty quickly, and Rush had that connection with his audience. He was sincere, he was honest, he was fun, he was lively, he loved to share his life and the things that he cared about. If Rush got a passion for any one thing, he’d go all-in, all on board.

I went down to his Palm Beach studios once to interview him, and Rush had a passion for all things, as you know, Apple. Rush hands me not one iPhone, two iPhones. He goes, “I want you to try this one — it’s a smaller version — then try the big one, and then write me back. Let me know which one you like better.” I’m like, “Okay, Rush. Thanks for the free phones,” right? He just would hand them out like they were candy.

CLAY: (laughing)

HANNITY: I think he gave one to everybody that was there. He had an amazingly generous side to him. I also think there was a part of Rush that maybe people don’t know that was maybe more shy than people think. I think he had to go through a lot, because he forged that path that made it easier for everybody else. But as he was knocking down those trees and forging that path, he was taking a lot of slings and arrows and attacks. I don’t think it was easy on him. I think it was very difficult. But it made it easier for people like me and people like you guys and everybody else that’s in talk radio to be able to follow him.

BUCK: We’re talking to Sean Hannity. Sean, any last thoughts for folks about the one-year anniversary?

HANNITY: I’m very close to his brother, David. He’s negotiated every contract I’ve ever had in my life, and I love him, and I love his family, and I just… I’m thinking of him today. I’m thinking of Kathryn today. I’m thinking of his nieces and nephews today, and I know that Rush would want one thing from all of his dedicated millions of listeners, and that’s to continue the mission that he dedicated his life to. He’s in our prayers, our thoughts — and, frankly, I just miss him on this day.

BUCK: A lot of us do.

HANNITY: It’s a tough day to think about losing him. You talk about the greatest of all time. There’s been a lot of talk about Tom Brady. Well, he was the GOAT of talk radio, for sure.

BUCK: Sean Hannity, everybody. Sean, thanks so much for speaking to us today and everyone across the country.

HANNITY: All right, guys.

BUCK: We appreciate it, Sean.

CLAY: Thanks, Sean.

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Cognitively Impaired Biden Overmatched by Putin

17 Feb 2022

RUSH: He’s a Trojan horse, he’s a figurehead, he’s a placeholder. Joe Biden doesn’t know where he is half the time! He literally has debilitating mental acuity issues.

REPORTER: How high is the threat of a Russian invasion right now?

BIDEN: It’s very high! Very.

REPORTER: Why?

BIDEN: Because they have not… (cough) They have not moved any of their troops out; they have moved more troops in, number one. Number two, we have reason to believe that they are engaged in a false flag operation to have an excuse to go in. Every indication we have is they’re prepared to go into Ukraine, attack Ukraine. Number one. Number two, I’ve been waiting for a response to Putin for my letter that — uh, my response to him — it’s come to that Moscow embassy they’re faxing it here — not faxing, sending here — I have not read it yet. I cannot comment on it.

BUCK: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. You heard there the words of Rush about Biden that he has “mental acuity issues,” absolutely true, and then you’re hearing today the commander-in-chief who is weighing in on the issue of whether there’s going to be a war in Ukraine, a major Russian invasion. It feels like every 12 hours, Clay, on this issue, it feels like the momentum shifts. Their troops are moving away; diplomacy’s working.

Putin’s actually been shelling and things are getting more tense. Oh, it looks like the diplomatic path is bearing fruit. This… It’s remarkable. We’ve never really seen this. Your point before, there maybe have been deadlines. To the Taliban, hand over bin Laden or we’re coming. Obviously, they didn’t hand him over, and, you know, they got what they deserved. Saddam, leave or we’re coming in. But I can’t remember a time where we’ve seen this level of invasion is imminent; actually, it’s not. Invasion is any second; actually, we don’t think so. It’s bizarre.

CLAY: Yeah, and when you do game theory, which I know you guys in the CIA did all the time.

BUCK: A lot. The CIA nerds love their game theory.

CLAY: I like game theory, too. I think it’s an awful lot of fun, and for people out there who haven’t engaged in it, you sit around and try to consider the most likely outcomes, what is gonna happen. It’s sort of like chess in the mind associated. Buck, the thing I keep coming back to that doesn’t really make any sense to me from the Russian perspective: I still don’t understand what Putin is gaining or losing other than the psychological homeland-related factors of Mother Russia needs to be powerful and he’s trying to appeal to that Russian ego based on everything kind of going into the toilet for lack of a better way to describe it, in the post-Cold War era.

So if he were on the edge of Ukraine and there was something where I could say, “Okay, he’s clearly negotiating for this,” but it seems to me like the only real benefit is that Russian psychological approval of expanding the homeland and the belief that Ukraine is a part of Russia. Do you know what I mean? It’s not a rational behavior that he seems to be engaged in, which is why trying to strategize his motivations and movements is so difficult to predict.

BUCK: You have to think about it from a Russian perspective. What’s fascinating is we don’t even… You should always know what your opponents really think. You know, in this country I think it took a while for people to realize that there were jihadists in, let’s say, Iraq who would reference battles that had occurred or reference battles that had occurred in the eighth century or the Balfour Declaration at the beginning of the twentieth century. People would say, “Wait, what? They’re doing this because of that?”

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: “There’s Sunni-Shi’a bloodshed in southern Baghdad because of what happened over a thousand years — the answer is “yes.” At least that’s the mentality in some — and in Russia, you have to remember Putin has presided over the creation of a Russian middle class that did not exist before. In fact, Russia was — the fall of the Soviet Union, the Russian people were — humiliated. Now, the creation of that middle class is really just the result of the fall of the Soviet system.

CLAY: And capitalism worked.

BUCK: Yeah. Of course, then they divvied up state resources, but they do have a lot of fossil fuels and Russia does have it. It’s very rich in natural resources. So Putin does have a baseline of support within his own country. And for a lot of those people, the Russian psyche is they have been humiliated, and they feel like they have this whole NATO alliance that… Now, again, I’m not trying to say this in any way to say what Putin’s doing would be justified or make any sense.

But to mirror image their mentality, at least the people who support Putin and are around him, they’re saying, “Why should our country have been…? I’m sure you can get a Russian to say, “Imagine if someone had just taken California from you, Americans. Wouldn’t you want it back?” Now, we could say that’s crazy and everything else, but there is… You know, “irredentism” is the word. There is this desire for the regaining of lost territory and lost prestige — which, to us, may not make a lot of sense, of course.

But with their historical sense, it’s quite different. So that’s the only thing I believe you can point to here — and the resources. Ukraine is pretty mineral rich. There’s coal, there’s natural gas, there’s stuff beyond just the narrative of Kremlin and Putin glory here. So you add that all together, Clay, if they think they can steamroll the Ukrainian military in a couple of weeks with less than 10,000 casualties and flip this government and control the country, they think that’s a win.

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Trudeau Must Go: Canada Freezes Bank Accounts of Trucker Donors

17 Feb 2022

CLAY: Buck, the craziness in Canada, I feel like we have to unpack. For a long time, people in America would look to Canada and they would think to themselves, “Why can’t we be more like Canada,” right? Relatively calm. There are people — politically, anyway. Never really seemed like the temperature got that high, never really seemed like they got that fired up at each other. There was just kind of a moderate normalcy.

Everything, “Okay, eh?” that would come from Canada. I remember hearing the analogy somebody made America was trying to make meth in an apartment and the Canadians who lived above us were like, ‘What’s going on downstairs?’ all the time. Right? If you’ve ever lived in an apartment or a condo and had a crazy lower level or upper-level neighbor, you know how that can be. Canada was the calm ones. They were in bed, early hours.

They were easygoing. You never really paid much attention to ’em, and I don’t think we can understate how crazy Canada is right now. Buck, I just saw Ottawa put out — the City of Ottawa did — a statement letting it be known that if you were with the protesters and you had an animal and you were arrested, after eight days you would relinquish possession of your animal, and it would be either taken by someone else or on the pathway towards that animal being anesthetized, right?

BUCK: Euthanized.

CLAY: Euthanized. That is pretty crazy that we would be talking about that — and while we were on the air, we have now one of the top officials in Canada officially announcing that if you donated money to the Canadian truckers, they have begun the process of freezing the bank accounts, the bank accounts of people who made those donations.

BUCK: Can I just say, Clay, ’cause I work in some domestic counterterrorism operations as well as before that in the CIA, obviously. Terrorism finance is something that the U.S. Treasury department, the intel community looks at. They’re effectively, in Canada, treating the truckers as a domestic terror organization — and, in fact, if anything, they’re being even more aggressive than we would in this country in dealing with insurgencies and terrorism abroad when it comes to that. They’re not even taking this to a court.

There’s no court order! They’re freezing accounts that they think might have donated money to truckers. On what basis? Are all the truckers breaking laws? What laws are they breaking? Is it terrorism they’re engaged in or protest? The fact that the media in this country does not get up in arms about this proves beyond any doubt — as if there was any doubt — these people are toadies in power. They don’t care about freedom, free speech, or protest.

CLAY: Yes, and you talked about — and we talked about on this program — if you’re saying, “Okay, I don’t really care what’s going on about the Canadian truckers right now.” First of all, I think you should care. Let’s start there.

BUCK: I think this whole audience does care, to be fair.

CLAY: I hope that they do. But every now and then, Buck, when we talk about something international I’ll get an email or something that will be like, “You should talk about what’s going on in America as well.” Okay, I understand that. But what goes on in the world also impacts America in a big way, right? So the Canadian truckers, you should care. If you don’t, you should. Listen to me in this analogy, and I think you’ll understand it.

It’s one of the analogies we’re making. Imagine during the summer of 2020 when all of those “mostly peaceful protesters” (said, obviously, sarcastically) are burning down police precincts, they’re rioting, they’re looting, they’re pillaging all over this country, happening everywhere, imagine if Donald Trump had said — as Kamala Harris, remember, now, our vice president, then the senator from California said — “Hey, we’re gonna raise money to immediately bail everybody out who was arrested during the BLM protests.”

Imagine if Donald Trump — and Mr. GoFundMes like crazy. They ended up raising over $100 million. They don’t know where that money went, by the way. But they did raise over $100 million. Imagine if Donald Trump had said, “We’re expanding our definition of terrorism. I’m declaring martial law, and every single person who donated money to Black Lives Matter is going to be in danger of having their bank accounts shut down.”

Imagine what the media in the United States would have said and done. That’s what’s happening right now in Canada, and most people in Canada are acquiescing to it, and most media in America aren’t even paying attention to this — and this is why precedents matter, because imagine if Trump had done the same.

BUCK: Clay, we could even expand a little more. If you had — the analogy is very apt, but if you had — Russia. “Russia Putin,” right? We’re all supposed to be so scared, and, by the way. There’s been some artillery shelling in areas on the Ukraine-Russia border and now they’re talking about a possible… We’re following this closely, folks. I mean, they’re talking about possible Putin chemical weapon threat, false flag in the Daily Mail. Just the reporting is all conflicting, it’s all a mess.

CLAY: No doubt.

BUCK: We’re watching this. But imagine for a moment the international media as well as the American media’s response if… The most well-known critic of the Kremlin is Alexei Navalny in Russia.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: You might have heard of him before, folks. Imagine for a moment if the Russian opposition Putin announced that I’m freezing all bank accounts of anyone who donates to any political party. Now, has Putin already done that or something? Probably.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: But they would all say that is tyranny.

CLAY: Universally condemn it.

BUCK: And they would be correct. What they’re doing in Canada is tyranny, folks. That’s not an overstatement. It’s not. They are strangling democracy while pretending to protect it. That’s what’s happening right now in Canada. Trudeau has got to go. This is now an issue for the entire Western world. Trudeau’s government must fall. These truckers are striking a huge blow for freedom. They just need to hold the line.

CLAY: Make no mistake, by the way. Joe Biden would like to be able to do this.

BUCK: Mmm-hmm.

CLAY: Left wingers in this country would like to enable the president to be able to do this for donations that are made to protests that they don’t support.

BUCK: It’s so funny you bring that up, Clay, because there was just an announcement. The FBI is forming a National Cryptocurrency Unit focused on the seizure of assets like Bitcoin. That just broke while we were on air. Almost like they want to make sure they could cut off funds they don’t like in this country, too.

CLAY: No doubt. They’re not gonna let you hide funds.

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Joy Behar Will Remain Masked: It’s Not 100% Safe Yet

17 Feb 2022

RUSH: The World Health Organization is now warning, my friends, it could take up to five years before the coronavirus pandemic is under control. You know what this is starting to sound like? This whole coronavirus story is starting to remind me of climate change.

BUCK: Indeed. Rush saw it, folks. He knew they were gonna drag this out. It’d be an excuse for Democrat tyranny, and he knew — and so we continue to fight, as we said, on this and many other issues. Today we honor Rush Limbaugh, the one-year anniversary. And speaking of this thing stretching on for years and years — which, now we’re in Year Two already, right? — there are some out there who are making the claim right now, Clay, that we said, “It was just a matter of time.” Now, I don’t think anyone goes to Joy Behar for medical or really hopefully no advice of any kind.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: But just in case you’re wondering (impression), “She now plans to wear a mask forevuh!”

BUCK: “Forevuh, Clay.”

CLAY: So, does Joy Behar ride the subway?

BUCK: I bet she hasn’t been on the subway in years.

CLAY: That was my first thought, when I heard this clip. My first thought is, there are lots of people who are deranged, anti-social, lunatic losers who don’t look at data like Joy Behar.

BUCK: The butlers and the chauffeurs are masked up, though. That’s gonna her mask policy.

CLAY: Yeah, they will be wearing masks for a long time. But when she said, “When I go into the subway or the bus,” the bus is even funnier. I used to ride the city bus to and from school. So I’ve been on my fair share of city buses over the years. I don’t remember the last… When was the last time you were on a bus? I don’t even know anybody that rides buses hardly.

BUCK: Not only would I rather genuinely walk, I’d rather be late because in New York City the bus, it’s painful. It takes forever. It just takes forever.

CLAY: I used to ride the city bus like I said when I was in school, but I haven’t been on a city bus in for… I can’t even think of the last time I would have been on a bus.

BUCK: I remember in the early days of the pandemic I used to take the subway. I was a double commuter; so I would commute down to Tribeca, the bottom of Manhattan, back uptown, and then go back downtown ’cause I was doing two shows, and then back uptown. So I was in the subway four times a day at the start of the pandemic.

CLAY: Yeah. Subway, I feel as if most people who are somewhat normal would ride the subway. But when Joy Behar is trying to say, “I’m such a normal person. When I’m riding the subway or the bus, I guarantee you…” Joy Behar on a bus would be unprecedented, right? In New York City? You’d know better than me, but there’s no way she’s been on a bus in 25 years.

BUCK: I know it’s funny, though. “If I’m on the bus…” Yeah, that’ll be the day, Joy. But, Clay, keep in mind she’s saying she’s basically gonna mask up forever, and some of us have said that this was going to be where they would go because mask mania is a mental illness.

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Governor Youngkin Bans School Mask Mandates in Virginia

17 Feb 2022

RUSH: There’s been something, folks, that has been bothering me since this whole covid-19 thing began, and you know what it is? I’ve finally done figured it out out there! We’re not acting at all like Americans. We’re Americans! We beat back every enemy we have faced, and we have been fearless in confronting every enemy we have faced — in large part because every enemy has come after us. We don’t need to flatten the curve. We need to flatten the fear! And it is… This is new! We’ve never had an entire generation paralyzed in fear with that paralysis rooted in comfort.

CLAY: It is never-ending. (chuckling) That was Rush Limbaugh, obviously, on the one-year anniversary of his death, dissecting much of what Buck and I have continued to go after, which is the covid insanity, the veil of madness that has continued to descend across all of this country. I do see, Buck, some signs of positivity out there. We’ve got kids who are willing to finally stand up. All over California, there are protests, kids walking out of school to protest the fact that they have to wear masks still.

We’ve got big wins that are being stacked in Virginia. Elections have consequences, indeed. Glenn Youngkin has effectively ended the mask mandate in the state of Virginia, and it’s worth noting that since he ended up that mask mandate, cases in Virginia are down 71%. And so it feels — even with people like Fauci as we started off the show talking about the lies that are continuing to be spread. I want to play this because this bill banning school mask mandates was signed by Glenn Youngkin. I think it’s a big reason why he got elected. Listen to cut 3.

YOUNGKIN: It is my distinct privilege and honor to be able to sign Senate Bill 739 into law in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

CROWD: (cheers and applause)

CLAY: And then let’s build on it a bit more. He says parents now will decide — this is on Fox — whether or not their kids wear masks, not school boards.

YOUNGKIN: We’re seeing a big win for parents and for students all over the commonwealth — and, yes, the science and medical opinion from so many folks has changed, but also the politics have changed. So Virginia has been leading. Virginia will continue to lead. I am very excited that a bipartisan group came together to pass this bill, which I will sign into Virginia law.

And we will make it very clear that parents, in fact, have the right to make a decision with regards to whether their child wears a mask or not. The great thing is if your child should — if you choose your child shouldn’t wear a mask, you can make that decision, and if you want your child to wear a mask, you can make that decision as well. And that’s what Virginia is all about.

BUCK: Isn’t it amazing, Clay, when somebody who’s a Republican wins an election and actually does the things they say they’re gonna do right away, I gotta tell you, it’s good. (laughs) I feel like the Youngkin voters of Virginia must be no good their heads saying, “All right. We got a guy here that’s actually following through.” It’s astonishing that Fauci is out there saying that the children still need to be masked, when you have you have more and more blue check doctors out there, Clay, who are finally saying what…

I’m sorry, but for those of you who have been on the front lines of the anti-mask wars, which Clay and I have — and this is a matter of public record. I like to remind people when Clay had a syndicated morning show and I had a syndicated evening show, we used to talk on air about the mask issue in like April of 2020. I was like, “Clay, why is everyone crazy?” and Clay’s like, “I don’t know, Buck. Why is everybody going crazy?” Not everybody, obviously, but the people that were believing the Fauci stuff. Menial there were doctors coming forward saying things that used to get you banned on Twitter. Here’s CNN’s Dr. Jonathan Reiner on the air over there.

REINER: I think the CDC believes that any mask is better than that no mask but what — what I’m here to say is that if you want to wear a mask now, you should wear either N95, a KN95, or a KF94, mostly from Korea. Those three mask types are extraordinarily protective against, uh, uh, acquiring covid. A cloth mask — particularly a loose cloth mask or a bandana worn loosely around the face — is fashion. Every person should be —

BUCK: First of all, I don’t even want to get into the fact that the data proves him wrong on the other point, too, because Germany has had an N95 mandate; it did absolutely nothing. But just put that aside, Clay. It’s fashion. Here’s a doctor on TV.

CLAY: On CNN!

BUCK: The cloth masks that people were screaming at me in my own building where I live, “You put your mask on” while they’re wearing a Hillary-Bernie balaclava over their face or whatever. I’m sitting here like, “Listen, commie, get a grip!”

CLAY: It is going to be hysterical to see in the years ahead how many people claim that they always knew masks were worthless. There’s a great story when a big event happens in sports, after that event, like 10 years later, a million people claim they were there. You know, there’s only 60 or 70,000 people who sit in a stadium. But when a really famous play happens and it continues to grow in the years ahead, way more people claim that they were there than could have ever been statistically possible based on the number of seats. Buck, you and I are gonna have so many people in the media who five and 10 years from now are gonna say, “You know what? I always knew those masks never worked.” But they didn’t say a word and they wore it and they lectured other people who didn’t. I guarantee you that’s where we’re headed.

BUCK: I actually had a writer friend of mine who was on my show at The First TV admit yesterday on air, at one point she was like, “We need to have an open debate on masks,” and out of respect and friendship for her, I was like, “We really don’t.”

CLAY: Yeah. (laughing)

BUCK: I don’t think you want to go there. That was over… That was maybe in June of 2020. That was a long time ago, and last night she’s like, “You were… You were so right! You and Clay are so right on masks.” (laughing) It’s like, “Yes. Yes, we are.”

CLAY: I… Look, there are going to be things that everybody gets wrong. And I’m married; so I hear about the things that I get wrong all the time.

BUCK: You’re always wrong when it comes to Mrs. Travis until proven otherwise, Clay.

CLAY: (laughing) That’s right. Any married man, any decision that he makes is always wrong. But I do have to say, this is one that you and I completely nailed from the get-go, when people were saying, “Oh, if you even uttered the essence of questioning masks, they would try to ban you on Twitter.” A lot of people got banned for it on Twitter. And I just think when Fauci… What, is Fauci like 81 now?

When the books are written about this era of America, he’s going to be an incredible villain, and all of the things that he has gotten wrong… Everybody wants to talk about the right and wrong side of history. Fauci’s been on the wrong side of history for so many issues. And I think it’s instructive, Buck, because there’s this idea that people who are on the wrong side of history, that they intentionally are putting themselves there.

I think what happened with him was, he painted himself into corner after corner, and when confronted with options — you can acknowledge the data has changed, you can acknowledge that maybe some of your earlier advice was wrong — he constantly tried to pretend that he wasn’t reversing himself, and he never was willing to acknowledge on something like masks or school shutdowns that they never made any sense and they panicked and they overreacted.

BUCK: Fauci always told the Democrats, the libs, the commie apparatus of the media what they wanted to hear. He was never willing to say, “Grow up. Stop being babies. This isn’t the way to do this. We’re not putting caution tape around the playgrounds. We’re not arresting paddleboarders in the ocean. We’re not shutting down public parks.

“We’re not masking up outside. We’re not masking up kids because it’s child abuse.” Never once in two years did this individual — the single loudest voice for lockdowns and masking and vaccination, never once — did he have a moment of courage, never once did he have a moment of conscience. It’s absolutely appalling, and I am not letting it go, and we are not done in this fight until every face is free.

CLAY: And also, I just… The idea, Buck, that we tied up swings, that we tied up swings on playgrounds and we took away basketball rims? That’s just gonna be such an evocative picture one day. People are not gonna believe it ever happened.

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Callers Share Their Memories of Rush

17 Feb 2022

BUCK: A lot of you want to weigh in, I know a lot of you are thinking about Rush Limbaugh and we want to hear from some of you. You know that phone number: 800-282-2882. Kevin in St. Louis, Missouri. What’s up, Kevin?

CALLER: Hey, Clay and Buck, thanks for taking my call. Great job you guys have done in the past year filling in for Rush.

CLAY: Thank you.

CALLER: I just wanted you guys to know that I am originally from — well, I am from — Virginia, and I took these past three days off — yesterday, today, and Friday — to come out here to St. Louis to pay my respects to Rush and visit him at his grave site here in Bellefontaine Cemetery. Yeah. So I traveled all the way out here just to see Rush — and it is a rainy day, which is appropriate for the occasion, I think. It is a sad day.

BUCK: How many years did you listen to Rush for?

CALLER: Well, I am 27. I’ve been listening to him since I was 13, 14, I think.

BUCK: Wow.

CALLER: Yeah. If I’m not mistaken, it was 2008-2009 I think I started.

CLAY: Yeah, that’s one of the things that strikes me the most about meeting Rush listeners, Buck, is we know there’s people out there that are in their sixties and seventies that listened for 30 years. But young guys like that and girls who started off listening to Rush when they were maybe in their cars with their parents —

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: — teenagers, even younger sometimes than teenagers and have grown up with the show over all those years.

BUCK: And there’s so many. Thanks so much, Kevin, and good on you for going out there and paying your respect to Rush yourself. Clay, I’ll be at CPAC next week, and it’s always been amazing because CPAC, there’s so many young people who are there.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: And you know what overwhelmingly when you talk to them — you know, high school seniors, college, freshmen, sophomores, et cetera — you say, “What do you do?” “I watch Fox News and I listen to Rush.” Those were the two big ones all the time with the College Republicans, college kids. Jay in Windsor, Ontario. Jay, you got a story for us?

CALLER: I got a couple of them. I’m very lucky to have two incidents with Mr. Limbaugh. One was funny as blazes, another one kind of almost got me in trouble. First one was in Delta’s Crown Room in Dallas, I walk in, there was a big, tall, skinny guy standing at a table, and it was old Serpent Head. So I said, “Hello, Mr. Carville. How are you?” and I asked for his autograph. He autographed, believe it or not… I’m the only guy I think on the planet that has James Carville’s autograph on the inside cover of a Rush Limbaugh book.

CLAY: (laughing) That’s pretty funny.

CALLER: Hey, it was cool. Carville was great. When I brought it over, he had this little goofy smirk on his face. But he was really great.

CLAY: He’s got a great sense of humor.

BUCK: He’s a nice guy and his wife, Mary, I believe actually once sat behind the EIB Mic, and Mary is absolutely a fantastic lady, Clay. She sent me the most details how-to-visit-New Orleans email I’ve ever gotten about anyplace in my life so I’m a big Mary Matalin fan.

CLAY: I’ve met James Carville, too, and he is funny, right? Honestly, he’s got a good sense of humor, he’s a huge sportsman, right — die-hard LSU guy — and, yeah, obviously the politics are different. He and his wife are such a perfect example of how —

BUCK: He’s a happy warrior Democrat, though.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: I actually wish there were more people that were willing to get out there and engage the other side from the other side.

CLAY: Well, he’s been willing to call out his own party for their absurd wokeness, too, if you see a lot of the quotes that he has given in recent memory.

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BUCK: Want to talk to Steve in Raleigh, North Carolina, for a second here? Wanted to share something with us.

CLAY: Yeah, let’s do it.

BUCK: You’ve been listening to Rush for how long, Steve?

CALLER: Hey, guys, mega dittos.

BUCK: Mega dittos.

CALLER: Yeah, I’ve been listening since I got out of the military. Was in the Navy, got out in the early nineties and found a restaurant that had a bus out front it that said Rush Bus. I had no idea what that was, so I decided eat my lunch there. And that’s how I got introduced to great Maha Rushie. I sat and ate lunch in a bus with his radio show being piped through the speakers. So that’s where I first met, Rush — and, guys, what a blessing today’s been. I’ve been in the car all day. It was just a freak accident. I had a lot of windshield time in my sales day today and I got to listen and hear Rush. Thank you.

BUCK: Thank you, sir.

CALLER: You know, it’s pretty… It’s overwhelming. But what a blessing. Thank you so much. You guys are doing a great job. I’m gonna do my part to make the hosts look great. You played the part with Joe Bar Hair, Behar, whatever her name is.

CLAY: Joy Behar.

BUCK: Joy Behar.

CALLER: Yeah, she’s saying, “Hey, I’m gonna choose to wear a mask. And you know what? That’s the great thing about this country, the freedom that we are given to make a choice for ourselves.” If she wants to wear a mask while she’s taking a shower, doing the groceries, riding a bus — which you guys point out, probably she never does — she’s free to wear that mask. She made the argument for everybody else that’s saying, “I just don’t want to wear one! I don’t want the government to make me do something.”

BUCK: We hear you, Steve. Thank you for calling in, my friend. We appreciate it. To everybody who’s calling in — we know for the whole show — thank you so much. And the way you all have embraced Clay and me during this whole process of transition and keeping the fight going is… We’re greatly humbled and honored by it. So, thank you so much for that. Clay, we got a lot more tomorrow.

CLAY: We’ll continue the fight, but we do thank all of you from the depths of our hearts and thank you, all of you, for spending time with us. And thank you to all of you who have been longtime Rush supporters.

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Leftist Tyrants Take Away Freedom in Big Gulps

17 Feb 2022

RUSH: Whether it’s vaccines or whatever, this is what you get when you get liberals who think they know better, who think you don’t know how to raise your kids, and who think everybody should have to follow their diktats in order for us to have “a uniform society” and a uniform culture. Choice is being taken away in big gulps.

CLAY: That is Rush Limbaugh from 2014. Very prescient in terms of looking forward to where we would be today. I’m sure that if Rush were here today, Buck — as we roll through what feels like a never-ending Democratic power grab using covid as the excuse for everything — it’s not only in the United States. It’s other countries that we have heretofore considered to be allies! Canada’s lost its mind, Buck. I look up at Canada now… We used to think of Canada as sort of like this incredibly moderate, easygoing neighbor who never gets really that riled up. And they’re making us look sane right now. They’re crazy.

BUCK: At the top of the next hour — so second hour of the program — Clay and I are gonna dive into the latest in Canada. It really does feel like you have two tyrants on the brink of a major incursion, a major action: Trudeau in Canada and Putin in Russia. We’re sort of sitting here wondering, “Are they going in?” You can apply that to the situation of the truckers in Ottawa right now, “Are they gonna send in the police and the RCMP?” and then you look at Ukraine right now. Tyrants on the brink, Clay, two different countries.

CLAY: It’s wild that we could end up in situation where we’re like, “Hey, who is stealing more freedom right now, Putin or Trudeau?” Right? (laughing) If you had that debate at any point, basically, prior to the last couple of years… Now, I know Trudeau, Mr. Blackface himself, has had all sorts of issues and scandals associated with his leadership. But to be where they are right now is, I think, the full fruition of where left-wing lunatic politics takes you if it’s not checked.

BUCK: Trudeau is recognizing, I think, right now that one or more wrong step and his government falls and his political epitaph is written, and it will be that Trudeau was an incompetent, a tyrant, and somebody just listening to him makes everyone’s testosterone on the male side drop a little bit.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: He’s a bad guy, a bad guy.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: So this is what we’re dealing with right now. And I’d love to see more and more Canadians coming forward and supporting them. Of course, a lot of Americans have been supporting the trucker convoy. And I think yesterday, Clay, when the Washington Post got caught reaching out to people making $20 donations after the GiveSendGo hack… You sent $20 to the truckers, folks, and the Washington Post is saying, “We know who you are. Do you have any comments on this?” The comments should be a lot of things that we’d have to bleep out on the radio. That’s what the comments should be.

CLAY: How about the fact that the Washington Post went so far — I was retweeting Congresswoman Ilhan Omar saying… She makes a really good point here, and she did, I mean about the fact that the media going after these donors of absurdly ridiculous.

BUCK: Disgrace. Total disgrace.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Even Ilhan Omar, she could be right, too. It is possible.

CLAY: Yeah, she brought us together.

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Sociopath Fauci Says Unmasking Kids Is Too Risky

17 Feb 2022

CLAY: Dr. Fauci is at this point, Buck, spreading 100% lies about kids in masks. He said on CNN that it’s too risky to let kids out of masks. I want to give a shout-out, because we’ve been talking about this battle for a while. Loudoun County, northern Virginia, which has turned into one of the battlegrounds, they have gotten basically complete and total victory in Loudoun County.

And all of the anti-masking strong parts here, a lot of them are slowly starting to actually add up. But I want to play this cut for you, Buck, of Dr. Fauci that has me so fired up. I saw this just before we were gonna do the show. Fauci went on CNN, and he said it’s too risky to take masks off kids right now. Listen to this.

CLAY: It is not.

BUCK: Is he a sociopath? Is he a sociopath? I think that’s a fair question to ask. It’s absolutely not risky. It hasn’t been risky from date one. We see all the numbers. Clay, you sit here and go through getting in a bathtub, being in a car, the actual risk data for children.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And unless you’re gonna have your child living in a literal bubble where they can’t go outside in theory, you know, protected from all germs, you just need to shut this guy out. What is wrong with him?

CLAY: If you drove your kid to school this morning — I did — your kids were under more danger of death on that drive to school than they are from covid. If you take your kids to a swimming pool at any point this spring, summer, winter — any point — they’re more likely to drown there than they are to die with covid. And the data at this point… So Fauci tries to keep saying (impression), “I am the science.” I’m not trying to do my Fauci voice; you can do it better than me, but he says, “I am the science.”

The science is clear. Masks have had no impact in schools. To their credit, one of the top directors in Charlotte, North Carolina, came out and said, “Hey, Mecklenburg County, which is where Charlotte is, had a mask mandate in place. Nobody else around them did. The rates of covid were no different in Charlotte as opposed to the surrounding communities.” Where I live here in Nashville, no difference on the rates of covid where they had mask mandates on kids in Davidson County — Nashville, Tennessee — versus Williamson County which is Franklin-Brentwood.

Six months of data, no difference in rate of infection for covid. There is no way — and we’ve had lots of scientific experts on. For people out there who say, “Well, you’re not a doctor,” we’ve had lots of doctors on what disagree with Fauci. Here’s what’s going on, Buck. He is trying to cover for the teachers unions that are still arguing that masks need to be in place.

BUCK: Absolutely.

CLAY: That’s what this is. This is a political statement. There is nothing scientific about his argument that taking masks off kids is too risky right now. This is Fauci as a direct political voice trying to give cover to the teachers unions — and, by the way, this is exactly what Rochelle Walensky and the CDC are doing too. They have to be able to look at this data. They are lying to you. The data is clear, transparent, and anybody with a functional brain can see it. Every kid in America who is still wearing a mask, it’s because adults failed and adults lied to them, and it is disgraceful and shameful.

BUCK: Otherwise, you can just look at the data coming out or the data that exists in Florida, which would show everybody.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: If anyone was really curious about this, look at the data in the state of Florida which has, what, about 21 million residents, something like that, and children have been under nonmandatory masking for the entire school year, stretching back to, what is it, end of August, Clay, kids go to school, early September.

CLAY: Yep.

BUCK: And it’s been fine. There has not been… If there was such greater risk, I guarantee you everybody listening to this right now, it would be blasted across CNN. The New York Times would be doing the “A-ha! I told you so” victory dance. We’ve run the experiment. Fauci, Walensky, and the rest were wrong. They were wrong. They’ve been wrong about everything!

CLAY: Yes. 100% wrong. And the fact that this still is allowed to continue, Buck, it… I saw this, and I wanted to grab Fauci by his little stethoscope and drag him right into our studios and say, “Sit your ass down in this chair.” I would love for somebody to be able to depose Dr. Fauci and just grill his ass. Sit him down under oath and make him respond to every single question, not this kind of shadow situation.

You know, where if you’re in a congressional hearing, somebody asks you a tough question and then they flip back to the other side, and they’re like, “Dr. Fauci is greatest doctor of all time,” right? No. I want that tin pot, lunatic, loser, lying fraud to get held accountable, and I want him grilled by intelligent people. You and I could do it, if he would sit here, and by the time he was done, his career would be over.

BUCK: Of course.

CLAY: I’m not kidding. If he came in here and spent an hour with us, his career would be over. I really do believe that.

BUCK: I think we are seeing the possibility that he is as soon as Republicans take back control —

CLAY: That’s why you have to vote. Sorry to cut you off, but I’m so fired up. You have to send a message. If you hate Fauci — and I do, and I know Buck does —

BUCK: Oh, yes!

CLAY: — you not only have to go vote yourself. You have to get as many people as you possibly can, your friends who may not otherwise be political. This is a time to send a message, a monster message against the liars and the frauds like Fauci.

BUCK: It’s a pretty straightforward pitch, for everybody out there. Vote against the Democrat Fauciite lunatics or you’re gonna be wearing masks on planes for —

CLAY: Forever.

BUCK: — at least, at least another two years, and your kids will probably be masked up if you live in a blue state next wintertime.

CLAY: They’re gonna try to bring it back if they take it away. I think your point there is really good. They’re gonna try, probably, to take it away in advance of the midterms, and then they’re gonna bring it back as soon as the midterms are over. Just know that’s why you have to send an unbelievable message.

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