Antonio Brown and Simone Biles: What’s the Difference?

3 Jan 2022

CLAY: Buck was saying as we went to break that the world of sports even crossed over into his world with an absurd story surrounding Antonio Brown. I’m gonna give you those details if you missed it. But I love the NFL media because they’re super woke. You think the political media are woke, Buck? They’re going to now have to make a decision over who the NFL MVP is.

The decision is going to be Aaron Rodgers, the quarterback of the Green Bay Packers who refused to get vaccinated — and everybody was just furious that he refused to get vaccinated and said that he was immunized — or it’s going to be Tom Brady, who had a MAGA hat in his locker when Donald Trump was running for president. Those are basically the two options. Tom Brady is the quarterback for Antonio Brown, and Antonio Brown is sort of a mercurial wide receiver who had blown out his welcome with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

He blew out his welcome with the Oakland Raiders at the time, also then blew up everything with New England Patriots when he was released because of a sexual assault or sexual assault allegation. It wasn’t actually a charge. He now decided in the middle of a game… If you haven’t seen this video, it’s pretty entertaining — in the middle of the game Antonio Brown takes off his pads, takes off his jersey, strips down shirtless, and walks through the end zone waving good-bye to everyone.

security said Antonio Brown ran out of stadium shirtless &!into a police car to be escorted to flight by himself out of town away from the buccaneers!
this after he tore off his jersey during game threw his shirt in the stands freaking out#bucs #BucsVsJets

— Chris Myers (@The_ChrisMyers) January 2, 2022

He exits the field and immediately goes to the airport, according to a report from Chris Myers, where he got an airplane flight and left in the middle of the game basically ending his career, I think. Buck, you even saw this video. What was your reaction when you see a player in a game, in the middle of a game quit and walk off the field?

BUCK: I’ve definitely been in some situations where I kind of envy this. I wish I could — in the middle of the CNN segment, when their anchors were engaged in the classic CNN ambush — just say, “You know what?” Take off the tie. Take off the jacket. “I’m out!” Throw the mic down. People have done that sort of like thing on cable news before. I did think it was interesting to watch this just because my understanding is…

And correct me if I’m wrong, ’cause we talked about this a while ago and I didn’t even have strong views on this. I was just kind of thinking about it in real time. But my understanding from the sports world is that when a competitor decides suddenly to no longer compete if it’s for any kind of mental health or emotional reason, that’s incredible bravery, more so than even continuing to play for your team and to be a part of that competitive process. I thought that was the rule.

CLAY: It is really funny. For those of you who remember the Summer Olympics, that’s probably the thing that you’ve gotten criticized for —

BUCK: The most.

CLAY: This is funny. He was getting ripped all over. Anything he said on the show, Buck — and I said the same thing, and people totally expected it from me.

BUCK: I think they expect… Yeah, there expected it from you. That was the thing, yeah.

CLAY: Yeah. So Simone Biles decides in the middle of a competition… For those of you who don’t remember, Simone Biles decides in the middle of the gymnastics competition, “I can’t do this, I am pulling myself out, I’m not mentally there, and so I am withdrawing from competition.” Everybody has the ability and the right to withdraw from any competition that they want. But immediately she was hailed as a mental health hero; there were absolute odes to her bravery spread out across sports media everywhere.

I said at that point in time, “If you quit, that’s fine. But it’s not heroic to quit. And if a man had done the exact same thing as what Simone Biles did, he would get criticized to the high heavens.” Now we have Antonio Brown in the middle a sporting event. I think Antonio Brown, unfortunately, probably has early stage CTE. I think he certainly has mental issues just based on his behavior. But he is getting destroyed across everywhere in the sports ecosystem. So how is it that Simone Biles quitting in the middle of a gymnastics event is heroic and brave and Antonio Brown is a malcontent deserving of total condemnation by everything in the world of sports? Didn’t he, in some way, do what Simone Biles did?

BUCK: And is the left-wing cancellation brigade going to yell at me more for just being present for this analysis with Clay than Clay will be for saying these things? That’s just a side note.

CLAY: Well, I think Simone Biles is gonna end up the NFL MVP. I made a joke about this last night on Twitter but the wokest of the sports media members, I really… They are gonna be curled up in the fetal position shivering ’cause they have Omicron because they have to decide between Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, two people whose politics and personal decisions as they pertinent covid and Donald Trump do not align with the predominant far left wing of the sports media.

BUCK: Everything, folks, is political now. That’s the world that we have all been pulled into. There was a time — and it’s not just in sports. You see this now in health. I know this now seems farcical to discuss it. There was a time when what works, what keeps people healthy, what’s safe, wasn’t about whether you’re red team/blue team. It wasn’t Democrat or Republican. Everything now has become an opportunity because this is how cultural Marxism operates.

This is how the totalitarian left pushes forward the agenda. Nothing can be outside the scope of the ideological need more power and control over your lives. You see it in sports. You see it all over the place. Yeah, on the Simone Biles thing, we had the exact same opinion which I was saying, “Okay, fine. If someone had sprained an ankle and can’t finish, you don’t criticize ’em for that. You just say, ‘Okay, sorry to hear that,’ and you move on.” If someone’s having mental or emotional difficulty and they pull out of an event, you don’t say, “That’s amazing!” You just say, “Okay. They’re taking some time for themselves.” Also fine.

CLAY: It’s not heroic. It’s not courageous.

BUCK: Yeah, the pandering elevation there was the part of it that we all saw, just like, what is this, guys? Can we all be just honest?

CLAY: I just said the great thing about sports is we treat everybody — we should — equally because in competition there’s a winner and a loser. I said at the time and I’ll reiterate it now” If a man had done what Simone Biles did — and we just saw it happen with Antonio Brown — he would get castigated, criticized, derided to the high heavens —

BUCK: Probably fired, right?

CLAY: — and now we’re seeing it.

BUCK: It’s true.

CLAY: It’s what’s happening.

BUCK: I saw the analogy. He’s probably fired, right? He’s no longer plays.

CLAY: Yeah, he’s been cut from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. His career may be over because he walked out on his team in the middle of a game. Whatever his reasons might have been, most people out there in the world of sports are going to say this is unacceptable, and yet if you heard about… Look, I’m not saying Simone Biles is an awful person. Far from it. And I’m not directly comparing anything psychologically that she or Antonio Brown were going through.

I’m just saying at the most basic level when you decide not to compete for mental reasons, for any reason, the standard of play… If you’re going to say Simone Biles is courageous and brave, then why would you not say that Antonio Brown is courageous and brave? I’m applying the same standard, male or female, to everyone out there, and most people are not gonna do that. It is really, to me, instrumental and instructive of where we are as a society that we have different standards for athletes based on what their identity is.

Joe Suddenly Says There’s No Federal Solution to Covid

3 Jan 2022

CLAY: Joe Biden, you’ll memorably recall, ran his entire 2020 presidential campaign predicated on the idea that he would shut down the virus, that he would take “the science” seriously and that he would do that with a federal plan that he would put in place. That sounded good enough, again, to persuade a segment of persuadable suburban voters, independents, “Hey, Joe Biden’s going to fix covid! He’ll take it seriously; Trump hasn’t.” Of course, that’s no longer true. And now Biden has just pulled up the proverbial mask and revealed, the reality is, there’s not very much the federal government can do to combat covid. This was Biden right before the holiday season.

BIDEN: Look. There’s no federal solution. This gets solved (cough) state level, and it ultimately gets down to where the rubber meets the road, and that’s where the patient is in need of help.

BUCK: Wait, so if there’s no federal solution, why is there a federal vaccine mandate?

CLAY: Well said.

BUCK: If there’s no federal solution, why do planes require you — because of FAA regulations — to mask up between bites? Remember, you’re not masking up on planes, everybody. We all drink a little water or eat. So you are actually masking up between bites. If you were running this as an actual scientific experiment, you’d have to have people enter a room with a highly transmissible aerosolized virus like, say, measles or chicken pox and have people pull their mask up and down every five minutes for an hour and see how effective it is. That is the idiocy they’re subjecting you to on planes right now. But, yeah, all of a sudden Biden’s discovering federalism, it seems? Maybe it’s just, Clay, the obvious thing here, which is the federal plans have failed. So now by saying it’s up to the states, he’s passing the buck, so to speak.

CLAY: That’s exactly what he’s trying to do. The entire rationale for him running for president ultimately boiled down to — when he was in his basement wearing in a gargantuan oversized mask with his sunglasses sometimes. The entire basis for his running for president was that he would solve covid. We are nearly one year, almost to the day as we come up on it. We’re a couple of weeks away from one full year of Joe Biden being president and what looks like is going to happen is every single day potentially between now and the one-year anniversary of Joe Biden taking office we’re going to be setting, Buck, an all-time record for new covid cases.

It’s impossible for Joe Biden to have failed more spectacularly. It’s impossible for the underlying reason, the foundation for his presidential campaign, to be more undermined than simply by looking at the data on covid. He has failed amazingly, and imagine what people would be saying if Donald Trump had won this election. They called losing their minds over covid still being an issue and Democrats would still be saying, “If Joe Biden had won, this would never happen.”

BUCK: They would impeach him for the covid mess.

CLAY: No doubt.

BUCK: They would be impeaching the president because of covid. Guaranteed.

Dukakis in the Tank ’22: Biden Mask on the Beach

3 Jan 2022

BUCK: We were talking about AOC a moment ago, and she was critical of Governor Ron DeSantis, tweeting out that while Florida’s going through a covid surge, he’s been missing in action. “Hasn’t Governor DeSantis been inexplicably missing for like two weeks,” she wrote, while she’s in Florida, mind you, fleeing her home of New York where I am. I also left, but I tell everybody to leave. (laughing) I tell everybody New York City’s crazy right now, and she tweets this out.

It turns out, Clay — you saw this — Ron DeSantis was with his wife who’s diagnosed with breast cancer and is trying to beat cancer right now. So Democrats immediately jumped to, “He’s reckless! He’s missing in action!” I think our friend Matt Walsh from The Daily Wire very astutely pointed out, notice the double standard here.

You have Pete Buttigieg, who has to recover from the adoption process, apparently, for the two twins with two months ago of parental leave, and that’s okay and that’s fine, while we’re going through a crisis. But the governor of Florida, whose state is an exemplar for the rest of the country, helping his wife get through cancer? That’s not something the Democrats ever stop and think about. It’s just another attack plan.

CLAY: Not only that, how about Joe Biden is on vacation, too, in Delaware walking around in such a pathetic photo-op with his new dog wearing a mask outdoors with his wife on the beach? That’s worse to me than Dukakis and the tank. If I’m running ads for 2022, this guy said he was gonna shut down covid, and he’s so pathetic and impotent in his power right now that he’s walking around on the beach in a mask outdoors.

Dr. Scott Gottlieb Peddles Bullcrap to Scare Parents

3 Jan 2022

BUCK: We’ve been mentioning the covid cases and I want to dive into the school situation with Clay here in a moment. We aren’t just at a high level of covid spread in the United States right now. We are at the highest level of covid spread ever, all right? This is the data from the CDC as listed in the New York Times. It comes directly from the CDC. We’re at 405,000 cases on average as of January 2nd. Over 14 days, over a two-week period, that is a 204% rise.

Cases have doubled in two weeks, on average. Now, deaths, thank heavens, are still at a relatively low level. You have not an increase in the average death rate. It’s about 1,200 a day. In fact, it’s down 3% over the last 14 days, which of course is in line with Omicron is less dangerous. There’s still a lot of Delta out there. There’s still other variants, but Omicron is substantially less dangerous, which is very, very good news.

We may get to a point where we’re at the end of the pandemic here, by and large, because they’re so much natural immunity from so many people getting infected. Particularly with this big surge of Omicron the chance of someone never getting covid at this point given how Omicron variant spreads is small. But, fortunately, it’s less dangerous than some of the other variants. Given all this, there’s still discussion about shutting down schools, and you can hear people talking about the danger to kids still.

Here’s Dr. Scott Gottlieb on Face the Nation on Sunday talking about children dying at 200 times the rate as compared to the flu. Clay and I will break this down for you.

GOTTLIEB: We have to recognize this has not been a benign disease in young children. There’s a perception that young children haven’t been hit hard to date from coronavirus. That’s just not true. We’ve recorded more than 600 pediatric deaths from covid over the last two years. To put that in perspective, we have one death from flu in the pediatric population last year and so far two this year. So over a period of time, we’ve done a very good job protecting children generally from respiratory infections. We’ve recorded more than 600 deaths from covid against three deaths from flu.

It’s amazing how all the “experts” are now acknowledging that cloth masks don’t protect you from covid. Saying this for most of the past 18 months got you threatened with social media bans. Now it’s suddenly acceptable to say: pic.twitter.com/hTnMfSmMNd

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) January 2, 2022

BUCK: Okay. This is bullcrap, and this guy is intentionally misleading people. Let’s start with this, ’cause I actually checked the numbers, Clay. We checked the numbers here on this show. An average flu year… Last year there was apparently no flu which is a whole other conversation to be had, right? In an average flu year, 150 children die from flu. About 150 is the number you see. So it’s not two. It’s 150.

The 600 number he gave you, a lot of that are people who died with covid — children with covid not from covid, and even within the from covid based on the most recent data, 70 of the children who have died from covid had substantial comorbidities, effectively a nonfunctioning immune system, pediatric cancer. They were at serious risk from any disease that could possibly be out there. But he’s making it seem like this needs to happen. Why, Clay? They’ve just approved boosters for kids over 12. Your kid has to get the shot.

CLAY: There are many parts of the covid-response universe that to me are indefensible from a data perspective. Trying to scare parents, to me, is the single worst thing that’s occurred over the past couple of years, and Gottlieb is smart enough to know exactly what he is doing. The same thing is true of Dr. Fauci and everyone else. And I just want to keep hammering this home because I think it’s so significant but because I’m the parent of three young kids.

I’ve got a 13-year-old, an 11-year-old, and a 7-year-old, and they matter more to me than anything in the world. Anything. If I thought they were in substantial danger from covid, I would be taking whatever measure was necessary to protect them. The reality is much of parenting is about analyzing risks and behaving in a rational fashion. That’s a real truth. My kids and your kids are under more danger right now of being murdered, of dying in a car accident, of drowning.

If they are young and you look at the years ahead — as Buck just said — as opposed to the past couple of years when the flu has disappeared, they are under more danger, young kids are, from the seasonal flu, 5- to 11-year-old kids, that is, 11 and younger. Those are all super significant factors, okay? They should be spread far and wide because they undergird the responsibility that we all have that schools remain open.

And Buck, to your point right now, Chicago schoolteachers are threatening to not return to school, arguing that there is a danger from covid that is so substantial that we need to pull all kids out. The failures that we have had as it pertains to children surrounding covid — Buck, you know this — is the data reflects that we never should have shut down schools. But if we were going to shut down schools, the biggest failure of all is that we didn’t reopen every school in the country in the summer and fall of you 2020.

We didn’t do that because Democrats were trying to drag Joe Biden across the finish line, and they made the calculated decision that terrifying parents was going to help them with suburban women and with some suburban men who just didn’t like Trump. They were gonna hang all of the deaths from covid on Trump. That storyline, it’s gone now, right? More people have died with covid under Joe Biden’s presidency than died with covid under Donald Trump’s. As you said we are at an all-time high for the number of covid cases. And what you’re starting to see is a pivot to, “Hey, maybe cases don’t even matter as much.” Did you see what MSNBC said?

BUCK: Of course. Yeah. Chris Hayes said that treat this like the flu which some of us have been saying for almost two years now. They’re returning to the original arguments that were made to try to get us to avoid the lockdowns, the mandates, the mask mania, all of it. But if we’re really going to look at this and not only do an after-action report to assess the damage but to help us to guide us right now, we have to look at the downside.

.@chrislhayes on the weird reality for vaccinated folks amid omicron wave:

The risk went from something we hadn’t really dealt with before in our lifetimes, to something that looks more like the flu. The flu can still be dangerous—but we do not reorient our lives around the flu. pic.twitter.com/4K5qNOplpW

— All In with Chris Hayes (@allinwithchris) December 30, 2021

The upside of all these programs — whether it’s masking, forced vaccination, social distancing, lockdowns — is almost zero for people that are really looking at this. It’s very hard to make a case. The only exception would be the increase in vaccination that you might get in some places for the at-risk population. But as we know, it didn’t stop the spread. All the other stuff? Lockdowns, crazy. Masking, irrelevant. All these things didn’t work.

But the costs are very real, and we’re still just getting a sense of what they are. This is in the New York Times over the Christmas break as Clay and I were out on vacation. I read this, and I wanted to bring it to your attention. This is a quote from it: “The Students Returned, But the Fallout From a Long Disruption Remained.” Here it is: “Nationally, the high school-age group has reported some of the most alarming mental health declines, evidenced by depression and suicide attempts. Adolescents have failed classes critical to their futures at higher rates than in previous years, affecting graduations and college prospects.

“And as elected leaders and public health officials scrambled to bring students back to school last winter and spring, the focus on having the youngest and most vulnerable students return to in-person instruction left many high school students to languish, with large numbers missing most or all of the 2020-21 academic year.” Clay, suicide, depression, academic left-behinds (if you will) are at catastrophic levels.

Kids are killing themselves because of the mental anguish they’ve been put through by being masked up, separated from their friends. Lot of homes can’t really handle having a kid home five days a week instead of being in school, there’s maybe only one parent, there’s difficult family situations. And they don’t even factor this in. You know, Fauci, it’s cruel what they’re doing. I mean, that’s really what Fauci and the teachers unions and Randi Weingarten have done to kids is cruel, and they need to answer for this.

CLAY: It’s inexcusable, and unlike many of the people — and I wish… Look, you always feel like you have to say this because you’ll get clipped and somebody will be like, “Oh, Clay and Buck don’t care about death.” Let me be clear here. I wish we were all immortal, right? I wish that my grandma and your grandpa and me and everyone that I love would never die, right? I wish that I could snap my fingers and make that a reality.

Overdose deaths have doubled since we went with lockdowns. When you average in that the people who were dying of overdose are in their twenties, their thirties, their forties, and then you also factor in all of the kids whose lives are being inalterably ruined in many ways by not having school, we’re taking away the quality of life of young people, and we are on the back end not really preserving very much of a quality of life for old people.

We have had failed. Being unable to live in a nursing home and be around other people is not giving them a quality of life, either. This is — and I want to keep hammering this home because it’s true — the biggest American policy failure since Vietnam, and I think it’s even worse than Vietnam, if you look at our response to covid. I don’t even know how far back in time you have to go — probably outside of the twentieth century, almost — in order to look at how big of a systemic failure this is.

BUCK: It’s the most disastrous, painful, and destructive decision made by any public health apparatus in modern history. I don’t know what you could think of that would even begin to align with this — and they will never admit it, friends. Just know that right now. They will never admit it.

Canadian Candles Are Nothing to Sniff At

3 Jan 2022

BUCK: Up in Canada, eh? We have some Canada listeners, Clay. I get the occasional Canadian writing in, perhaps even a Quebecoise writing in and saying (impression), “I love your show from up in Montreal.” So, yeah, it’s good stuff. Up in Canada, though, they’ve had some covid madness along the lines of what you see in Europe or close to what you see in Australia. Cops are dragging people out of church, arresting people. So this guy, look. This is on social media; it goes viral.

I don’t know the individual. I can’t verify. But if you watch the video, you get a sense of, “Yeah, this actually happened.” He’s at the equivalent of a Dollar Store. I forget the name of this particular one. But the dispute here seems to be over that he wouldn’t… It’s not that he wouldn’t wear a mask — remember this — it’s that he pulled his mask down. Let’s hear the reasoning. He’s fighting with the owner of the store here. Let’s hear about what it’s like up in Canada these days with mask policy.

UNBELIEVABLE!! pic.twitter.com/3ZuP4EC48Y

— Rasta Redpill (@RastaRedpill) January 2, 2022

BUCK: Mask up between sniffs, Clay. It’s a real thing now. You are not allowed to smell the candle you wish to buy without smelling it through the dirty, soggy mask that you’re forced to wear that does not stop covid, by the way.

CLAY: The accents make that video to me — and, by the way, the woman who just steps in is a random woman who was also in the store. That’s not a woman with him. So, I’m torn on this in many ways. I want to start with this, Buck. Have you…? Do you purchase good-smelling candles for your bachelor pad place in New York City? Have you…? I’ve never purchased a candle in my life. So I wonder on some level whether this is staged, because you have a man by himself in a Dollar Store, and he’s pulling his mask down to smell candles? So I’m curious, do you purchase good smelling candles for your apartment? Have you ever done that?

BUCK: Sometimes you want to put on a little bit of mint medley or evergreen fur tree or something, throw some Cat Stevens on in the background, let the Cat purr. You know what I’m saying? You got to set the mood, Clay.

CLAY: I’ve been married 17 years. I have never purchased a candle. What’s more, I have really bad smell anyway so I think all of the candles would smell the same. To me, like, all these different candle scents are primarily directed for women. But I do love the idea that this guy is so committed to his candle purchase that he’s going around individually smelling them and that some other man who is running this store is of the opinion that the store is no longer safe because this guy is smelling the candles. It’s a lot like what’s going on in airplanes right now where you have to pull your mask up and down depending — in between bites, in between drinks.

BUCK: I have seen and witnessed airline attendants telling people that they’ve taken too long in the mask —

CLAY: This happened to me, Buck, when I came on solo. I meant to tell you this. I was flying back from Key West. I had a coffee. I was sitting in the waiting area. I was drinking from my coffee. Literally, the coffee was on my lips and the flight attendant came over and she said, “Sir, you’re going to have to pull your mask up between sips that you take of your coffee or I’m gonna have to report you.”

BUCK: Yeah, these people are mentally ill tyrants. There’s no way around it. Everyone, let’s just call it what it is. They are mentally ill tyrants, and it needs to stop. Okay. They need to get a grip. We don’t need to placate them anymore. I’m sorry that they’re so incapable of dealing with reality, but enough is enough.

Michigan Band Ridiculously Masks Up for the Orange Bowl

3 Jan 2022

CLAY: So how depressed are you, Buck, to be back in New York City right now after being in sunny, free Florida for the new year and the holiday season? I really think there are a lot of people out there who traveled to the free states during the holiday season, and they’re back in whatever place they may be sort of caught in all this ridiculous absurdity, and it has to weigh on you, right, when you walk around in New York City compared to being in Miami?

BUCK: Clay, it’s like being stuck in the Manhattan gulag or something right now.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: You got vaccine mandates everywhere. It’s freezing cold outside. Everyone’s depressed. They’re masked up outdoors — and look, I understand. We’re going through a covid surge. But all this stuff that they’re doing in New York, all the mandates, all these restrictions isn’t gonna stop it. I mean, the fact that now there’s a mask mandate in my gym?

It’s just gonna make me lazier and fatter over time ’cause I’m not gonna go to the gym as much ’cause I don’t want to choke on my stupid mask. I probably will just go and not wear the mask. But the point is this is now an emotional disorder for a lot of people. Covid is out there. Omicron, thank heavens, is actually less dangerous than Delta.

CLAY: It could be a positive, which is the way we left it before we left for the holidays. We were looking at the data, and there’s some sign that that’s gonna actually help.

BUCK: I know tons of people personally who have gotten sick and they believe that it’s Omicron. I never know if you get tested if they tell you necessarily if it’s Omicron or not. I haven’t really seen. I’ve been tested a few times. When I was positive, I was just positive. So I’m not sure if they tell you the variant necessarily, but certain people think they’ve had Omicron and they got sick for a few days and then they’re pretty much okay.

Maybe four or five days they feel kind of crappy. Also known as a cold, folks. This has been out there for a long time, that there are respiratory viruses. Those of us who were saying that the flu kills anywhere from 40,000 to 80,000 — overwhelmingly it is seniors, but 40,000 to 80,000 people in an average flu year — in this country, those are just the facts. That’s the reality of it. You know, it’s a dangerous world, and we’re all on borrowed time.

Really so much you can really do. But now this has become… It’s like a culture. It’s really like a religious belief for a lot of people that they are “fighting a virus,” kind of like the way they fight climate change by, you know, taking a bicycle once a month instead of a cab. They think firefighting a virus by doubling masking. Oh, whatever happened to double masking, by the way? Remember was a year ago, Fauci was saying (impression), “The new data says that a two-mask regimen,” and I always want say, “Fauch, why you such a wimp? Go triple mask, my man. Triple mask or bust!”

CLAY: I remember when I testified in front of Congress in March about the power of Big Tech. All of the Democrat aides… I remember just thinking, “You sheep disgust me.” They would make a big show before they were going to go talk to their member, whoever it was, the people sitting in the chairs behind the congresspeople. Some of these people had triple masks on, Buck. I remember looking at them.

BUCK: Have you seen a triple mask or just double mask?

CLAY: It felt like it was a triple mask. They made me testify in my freaking mask, right? There’s video of me. I’m sitting there with the mask on, it’s trying to fall down. I’m testifying. There’s nobody close to me. I’m speaking into a microphone, and it’s kind of funny that you watch me, I’m having to deal with it the whole time.

BUCK: ‘Cause I have seen… I wasn’t just bringing up for no reason. Double mask with the Plexiglas visor thing.

CLAY: That’s what the defense secretary did, and he just tested positive for covid. Remember when he showed up and you’re like, “How do you portray a point of strength when you’re double masking with a shield, a mask shield walking in front of the troops?”

BUCK: I’m just wondering you may have been also there was that photo making the rounds over the weekend? It was like a band for one of the football games and they had masks, the band on masks on outside —

CLAY: Michigan’s band, outside in Miami, all had masks on.

BUCK: They had masks on. But, Clay, some of them have holes in the masks so they can play the instruments if you’re playing a woodwind. (laughing) Think about that for a second.

CLAY: It’s so infuriating.

BUCK: So stupid.

CLAY: I was watching the game between Michigan and Georgia, of course, and I tweeted Georgia. It was one of the opening shots. First of all, it’s not like… I guess the band is the anti-AOCs. Nobody wants to sleep with band members, and it’s not like they’re driving sexual desire through the roof anyway. But if you make the band all wear masks outdoors in a football stadium in the state of Florida, by the way, guys and girls? I just felt sorry for ’em.

BUCK: The tuba players in the Clay and Buck audience are gonna send you some angry emails over that one.

CLAY: People come after me all the time.

BUCK: Tuba players get the ladies — or the guys, depending what their preference is. So, yeah.

Feminist AOC: My Critics Just Want to Date Me

3 Jan 2022

CLAY: I just want to hit this AOC angle, right? So you’re in Miami Beach where AOC is, and for those of you who didn’t see it over the weekend, AOC flees her home district of New York during the holidays, goes to the free state of Florida, is out maskless at many different public events — and by public events, I mean they’re open to the public and she’s in a restaurant or she’s in a bar or whatever. And, by the way, I don’t begrudge that.

Obviously, that should be the standard. But you can’t have 2-year-olds in your home district of New York required to wear masks and then — because you are fortunate enough to be able to hop on a plane and go down to Miami and have your holiday — you don’t have to wear masks. It’s very easy and I think it should be paramount among people who are in the public sphere like you or me to hold people in public office and public life in general accountable to follow the rules that they would propagate upon everything else themselves.

If Republicans are mad they can’t date me they can just say that instead of projecting their sexual frustrations onto my boyfriend’s feet.

Ya creepy weirdos https://t.co/Z7bZCgXpWJ

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) December 31, 2021

And so, the criticism of AOC I think is entirely valid because it is emblematic of a hypocrisy. If it’s unsafe for you to be without a mask in a public restaurant or a public venue, then why are you doing it in Florida and traveling for your vacation to do it when you’re not allowing your own constituents to do it? AOC responded, Buck, by saying that this criticism was born of sexual frustration on behalf of Republicans. A couple things here.

One, can you imagine if Donald Trump had responded to criticisms from Democrats by saying these are just criticisms from Democrats ’cause I’ve got a hot wife and most of them have ugly wives and they are sexually frustrated in their lives. The world would have come undone if Trump, who does have a really good-looking wife, had said that criticism of him was born from sexual frustration from his critics. They would have lost their minds.

Second part. Why is it that that statement can be made by AOC — who, by the way, is good-looking for a politician. She’s not good-looking for an actress or good-looking for a public celebrity figure on Instagram or something like that. She is good-looking for a politician. Why can she just use the fact that she’s good-looking as a shield to deflect her from all valid criticism, and how in the world can Democrats even allow that to be a standard? Because they’re talking all the time about “privilege.” Is hot girl privilege not a thing? Does AOC just get to argue, “Hey, I’m really good-looking and that’s why my critics are upset”? This, to me, is a crazy story that happened that most people just totally allowed to pass.

BUCK: You see all the actions of these Democrats who are some of the most vocal proponents of lockdowns, and really it’s a virtue-signaling extravaganza for a lot of people, the whole, the mask wearing and the Democrats are the, “Oh, we’re so serious about this.” They do this in public because the neurotics in the Democrat Party, who also just because there’s an overriding godlessness within the Democrat Party…

I will just say it and the replacement of traditional faith with climate change belief and these other religion replacements. They can’t even allow themselves to comprehend that we’re all going to die and that actually there’s nothing the state can do to keep you alive forever. But putting that aside for a moment, you see with AOC, you see with so many of these politicians, they’re not as scared of covid as they pretend to be in public.

CLAY: Yes!

BUCK: And this keeps happening, whether it’s Mayor Bowser in D.C. or it’s London Breed, the mayor of San Francisco. You go through all these names. Nancy Pelosi getting her hair down in the salon with the mask down. All this stuff, you keep seeing it, and it’s so very obvious to people. But I really do think that we’re going through a period of mask mental illness with the Democrat base, because they’ve become addicted to the fear of the insurrection, the fear of Russia collusion and the fear of covid.

All of these things are used to manipulate people in ways — really it’s classic brainwashing. It is a cultlike mentality because, Clay, new information is rejected. Break your ties to people that don’t go along — the unvaccinated, of course. If you look at the way they bring people into cults and a lot of the Democrat response to data and fact and reason in the era of covid, it aligns. It’s actually quite similar.

CLAY: Yeah, and what’s really frustrating is just the failure to hold people to a basic standard of your public and private life should in many ways reflect your authentically held beliefs. To your point, the real lesson here is the people that were constantly screaming, “You’re in danger from covid” don’t actually believe what they’re screaming. And it’s not a difficult proposition, by the way, for AOC.

Even if she is not the most astute politician of all time, when you take a vacation to Miami and you decide to gallivant about without wearing a mask — again, while you are requiring 2-year-olds in your own district, while you are supporting the idea that 2-year-olds should have to wear masks — that hypocrisy is so rank. And then when you get criticized for it, to fall upon the idea that you are good-looking and that’s why people are criticizing you is next level dishonest!

BUCK: One of the problems of someone like AOC is that she has an outsized influence in the national conversation because of social media and because a lot of dumbest leftists are of this generation that supports AOC. They don’t know anything. So her ignorance almost becomes a calling card of sorts. It’s, well, she just gonna say crazy things that are absurd but make people who don’t know very much about the world feel better about themselves.

But I also feel like we spend more time in… It’s not just AOC. There are others, and it’s not just members of The Squad and Congress. Pelosi says plenty of stupid things too. We spend more time analyzing this and we have to realize ultimately, Clay, they don’t care that they’re wrong. Ultimately, AOC couldn’t actually make an argument, doesn’t have to make an argument about why it’s okay for her to do this while 2-year-olds are masking. And the fact that she has this, as you rightly point out, really embarrassing — intellectually flimsy is too kind a way to put it — response, “Oh, ’cause people are sexually frustrated by me!” I don’t want to go there.

CLAY: That’s why they’re criticizing you for not wearing a mask? Has no connection whatsoever.

BUCK: It’s just bizarre. But it’s a little bit like people who just cry misogyny or racism the moment that they’re caught up in something, right? It’s like, “Hey, wait. This public figure, this member of Congress didn’t pay their taxes or isn’t paying spousal support! Racism, misogyny,” or whatever. This is the game that the left plays all the time. One of the big challenges that I think we continue to have is that right now you or I will debate any person on Planet Earth about the Biden administration’s policies on masking and forced vaccination, and I would verbally annihilate them.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I think they recognize this at some level because that’s why they never subject themselves to public criticism.

CLAY: And, by the way, we would have these people on our show.

BUCK: Sure, yes.

CLAY: We’re not running from them. If AOC wanted to come on and explain why everybody is so sexually frustrated because she didn’t have a mask on, like, “Hey, we’ll allow you to come on. You’ll get destroyed. You’ll get absolutely ridiculed,” and that’s the problem. Most in the media won’t do that. Right? There is no standard.

BUCK: There’s no standard, and it’s true of Fauci. It’s true of all these other voices right now. How come no one’s asked them just in a live, open public forum, “You guys said this would stop the spread. Has this stopped the spread?” Ask them, and don’t allow them to (impression), “Oh, the data over time, the iterations of the mitigation.” No. Were you wrong? And if you were wrong, why aren’t you admitting it?

Why haven’t you said it before? And what does that mean going forward? There is no accountability for this anymore. They’ve created this bubble of elite consensus that’s really actually, it’s like people that think they’re the best golfers in the world just because they’re never leaving the country club where they play, right?

You gotta actually subject yourself to the broader world if you’re gonna say that you’re right. They will not do it. It’s appalling, and that’s why they get away with this stuff. But, yeah, AOC, some of her… I guess what I’m trying to say about her, Clay, is some of the things — a lot of the things — she says are so stupid that I actually feel debased as a public commentator having to explain how dumb they are.

CLAY: I think that’s well said. What’s disappointing is, how in the world can she get away with making that argument? The argument she should follow is just, “Hey, I follow whatever state and local regulations exist wherever I am in the country. I understand that that can be frustrating, but that’s the world we live in right now.” It’s not a great answer, but at least it’s an answer.

“I’m not wearing a mask and the reason why you are picking on me for not wearing a mask is because of your sexual frustrations” is such an incredibly strange argument to make. The fact is that everyone out there in the media — MSNBC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Fox News — should be teeing off on a lie that is that obvious. We don’t get that.

Live With It, Libs! Ron DeSantis Was Right

3 Jan 2022

ANDY COHEN: Watching Mayor de Blasio —

ANDERSON COOPER: Don’t go on a rant, man.

ANDY COHEN: — do his —

ANDERSON COOPER: Don’t go on a rant.

ANDY COHEN: — victory lap dance after four years of (crosstalk) the crappiest job as the mayor of New York.

ANDERSON COOPER: (crosstalking)

ANDY COHEN: The only thing that Democrats and Republicans can agree on is what a horrible mayor he has been.

ANDERSON: COOPER: Wow.

ANDY COHEN: So sayonara, sucker!

Bravo’s Andy Cohen, Andy Cohen!, absolutely obliterating New York City mayor Bill deBlasio as his term ends is a fun watch. Enjoy: pic.twitter.com/T6twntLJI3

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) January 1, 2022

BUCK: Happy New Year, everybody. That was Andy Cohen on New Year’s Eve talking about Bill de Blasio, which I just have to say, I have been telling you on this show… I know when the others and some of my esteemed fellow hosts who are on WOR NYC — Mark Simone among others — with will say de Blasio is the worst mayor in the country. He is awful beyond words, beyond measure.

He’s finally gone, thank heaven. So if nothing else, while New York is in the midst of this, “What are we gonna do? Where do we go from here,” the plan failed. Let’s be honest. The plan to stop the spread failed and notice they never account for natural immunity in any of this because that would also include overall infection because eventually, we’re gonna get to the point where people have to say, “How many of us have not gotten covid?”

The whole mitigation and vaccine program, all of this needs to at least be taken into account the reality of how many people have truly gotten infected over this whole period of time, and you have this juxtaposition right now, Clay, particularly between New York and Florida, right? Florida, as we know — we talked about it over the summer — was the place of #RonDeathSantis and he was responsible for covid and monoclonal antibodies that he was pushing were something that he had a financial interest in. All lies and nonsense about that.

And then also seasonal, the virus is seasonal as we know. Now it’s crushing New York as well as Massachusetts, the whole Northeastern U.S. Michigan has a really high caseload. Really the whole Northern and Northeastern, Democrat-controlled corridor of the country is having a really tough time with covid. But there’s still this desire to make it seem like this is a function of one side understanding the virus and what to do about it and the other side not. I was in Miami Beach — and I gotta tell you, it was paradise, Clay. It was fantastic.

CLAY: I think a lot of people out there are super curious about your experience, because I’m lucky, like you say, and I know a lot of our listeners are too. I live in Nashville. I spent a lot of time… I went down to Key West, had a tremendous time, had a great time down on the Florida Gulf Coast. But I’m going from freedom to freedom, right? When I fly from Nashville to Florida, from the state of Tennessee to Florida, there’s not a massive difference.

I am utterly intrigued for you to have had your 40th birthday. By the way, happy birthday, incredible time to get away, be down in great weather in the Miami area. And what the feeling is — ’cause a lot of times when people leave good weather and you’re going back to cold weather and it’s the winter you got like sort of a depressive feeling because you’re like, “Oh, man I gotta get the coats out and everything else.”

But if you add that stultifying inability to have basic freedom, that has to be weighing on your shoulders in both directions, right? You’re tossing it off when you go south. And then when you get on the airplane, Buck, and go back north, you had to be thinking, “I just feel so miserable to be going back to this.” It’s such an incredible dichotomy between Florida and New York.

BUCK: It was like I had escaped the Soviet Union, and I thought I was now a defector. I was a defector to Ron DeSantis’ Florida and all the lovely Floridians down there and just a whole different world. Everyone’s just more mellow about this stuff. You don’t have it, and the sufficient that’s out there is mostly, the signs you’ll see about distancing or masking. It’s for the neurotic New Yorkers and New Jerseyans and Massachusetts residents, et cetera, who go to Florida to escape that but still have a little bit of anxiety over it. But here’s the mayor of Miami Beach who’s a Democrat, who despite the reality of what we’re seeing is out there slamming the best governor in America.

DAN GELBER: Rather than treat it like a health care crisis or a — any other crisis we deal with like a hurricane when we all stand together and tell the public exactly the same thing, not caring what party you’re at, he has made this a wedge issue. And in a health care crisis make something a wedge issue and you divide the public so that half the public does one thing and half the public does the other, you get what we’re getting right now, which is variants still coming, people still getting sick, and this disease still with us. And that’s really the — the tragedy within this tragedy.

BUCK: Now, this Democrat mayor in Miami Beach is delusional, okay. Variants were always coming no matter what. This idea that the unvaccinated created the variants or the unvaccinated are the only reason there are variants is completely antithetical to everything we know about the history of viruses for as long as we’ve had a practice of microbiology, okay? This is crazy talk.

But you can see that they can’t process this. They can’t understand, “Hold on. We did everything right in New York, but Florida is living in peace, prosperity, freedom, and dignity when it comes to the war on the virus, and New York is Looney Tuneville!” They can’t seem to make sense of it, Clay. They can’t seem to figure it out. Ron DeSantis? It is a wedge issue, and here’s the wedge: DeSantis was right. The politicians in your home state of Tennessee who haven’t allowed this to overrun people’s lives and shut down, they were right.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: The libs were wrong. That’s the wedge.

CLAY: That’s the wedge, Buck. To me, this is why 2022 is such a massive year in so many different ways. I think a lot of times people say, “Oh, this is a big, important year,” and it’s not necessarily true but if you looking what Democrats supported to get Joe Biden into the White House, defund the police has blown up in their face. They try to claim now that they never actually said it.

Now pretty much everything that they have said about covid has blown up in their faces, and they are left with a stark reality that I think is becoming more true every single day, that there are consequences for right and wrong policy choices. And you can’t just shift your position to, “Oh, now we have to fund the police.” Well, what about the thousands of people who are dead that would otherwise be alive if you had never argued in favor of defunding the police?

What about all of the people who lost their jobs and are never gonna go back? What about all the kids out there, Buck, who lost over a year of schooling and are never going to make it up? You know, there are I think a million kids that we just lost. They were public school kids that are no longer even able to enroll.

BUCK: We should be, based on what we’ve been told by the experts, we should be in a place now where we are arguing the costs of all the things they made us do versus — right, versus — the benefits of many of these policies.

CLAY: It’s what adults do.

BUCK: We should be in that place. Where we actually are is many of the things, most of the things we made us do had enormous cost and actually no benefit. This is the part of it that… The lockdowns, none of this made sense, none of this was a good idea. Vaccines, as we always say, for personal protection for those at risk are at good tool. So are monoclonal antibodies who those who get infected, right? Early treatment is something that somehow still never gets on the radar.

I know a lot of people listening probably saw and heard some of the Dr. Malone-Joe Rogan interview. I listened to the whole thing. I know you read the transcript of it, Clay. Why don’t we have definitive answers? Why don’t we have clinical trials about things like that hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin? Why is there this FDA roadblock to some of those processes, right? These are all things where we should be having a discussion. Instead, they’re just telling us more — and I don’t mean that in rhetorical terms. You look at Israel, they are on shot number four officially now.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: If you are at height risk, you need a fourth shot. My friends, this is absolute madness! Think about your mind-set in March of 2020. If Joe Biden had told you, “I’m going to be pushing for booster mandates and eventually I’m gonna be pushing for a third shot in the first year for the American people to protect them from covid,” they would say, “You’re completely out of your mind and I’m not voting for you.” So many people would have known that is where we are now. They should take stock of that.

CLAY: No doubt. And I would just ask people as we go to break here, when has there ever been a “vaccine,” in quotation marks, that I read radio you to get four shots potentially within you a year which is what they’re doing in Israel and still didn’t keep you from getting or spreading the virus that you got the four shots for? I can’t think of any traditional vaccine that we have ever talked about that, right?

Measles? Mumps? Have you ever thought to yourself, “Man, I’m not gonna get on this airplane because I’m not sure if somebody else got their measles or mumps vaccine”? No, ’cause you got your vaccine and you know you’re fine. Just think about that in the back of your head. Four shots which is what they’re talking about in Israel, and you still are not in any way guaranteed that you’re not gonna get or spread the virus. How do we even call that a vaccine?

BUCK: And you’re effectively guaranteed to take a fifth shot.

CLAY: Never ends. That’s right.

BUCK: It’s now the fifth shot because the fourth shot’s gonna work. Oh, and Clay here’s the other fun thing. You and I are not doctors. Fair point, right? But we do know something which is how effective and how serious are the long-term studies on the effect of four or five or six mRNA vaccines? They’ve never run them, folks, because we’ve had this vaccine for a year. Okay?

CLAY: And, by the way, the fact… I just want to say. I know we gotta go to break. But the “you’re not a doctor” thing that doesn’t mean you can’t look at data and make decisions that are intelligent. There are so many people out there that try to use that as an argument. There are lots of people out there that are doctors who aren’t actually that smart, Buck!

BUCK: Joe Biden has the nuclear codes, and I can assure you, folks, he knows nothing about nuclear engineering, nor does he know anything substantive about what it would actually mean be in a compact situation.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: In fact, I worry that he’s gonna walk out on stage one day without his pants on and we’re gonna see those jacked up black socks with the stirrups on the side. But, hey, let’s listen to Joe Biden. He knows what he’s doing!

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: We had mentioned before that Governor Ron DeSantis, they’re of course attacking him, as always, and they’re always trying to say that there’s something wrong with whatever he’s done. They went after him, as we mentioned, for being what they said was “missing in action” while the Florida covid case count was rising. Governor DeSantis responded to this today from Florida. Here’s what he says.

DESANTIS: Yeah, I mean, I guess I should have at the beach in Delaware, right?

CROWD: (laughing)

DESANTIS: They would have been really happy with that. It was… I mean, you look at. We’ve actually put out the schedule, and I think these people didn’t know that ’cause you’re not doing a big press conference. So, Friday, Kevin Joe and I had all had discussions about doing what we’re doing. Of course, I was down in Miami later, Thursday in the office working on this and some other stuff.

BUCK: Yeah. But they jumped on him anyway. Remember when the… I think it was a CBS reporter came after him about the —

CLAY: Publix.

BUCK: — Publix grocery store chain and how it’s, “Oh, donors,” or something and he just eviscerated them? What you realize is that they don’t even care. It’s not about credibility for the media apparatus and the Biden regime toadies. It’s about taking your opportunities to ambush DeSantis. True or not, it doesn’t matter because the other libs will like you for it.

CLAY: No doubt, and I think it’s important that you bring that up. What was going with Publix was we were distributing the vaccine using Publix pharmacies to the best of their ability because as anybody who spent much time in Florida knows there are a massive number of Publix grocery stores and so one of the ways to get the vaccine out to the largest number of people was to have the biggest possible retailers to give these vaccine shots.

And what CBS tried to say was, “Oh, this was a give-away over a $100,000 contribution.” Now, I think Ron DeSantis right now, if I’m not mistaken, has $67 million in his 2022 election war chest. That’s the most recent number that I have seen. A hundred thousand dollars barely even registers on that horizon. But in that story, many Democrats, actually, came out and said, “No, no, no. We were involved in the meetings surrounding this.

“The reason why Publix was involved in vaccine distributions was to get as many shots in arms as we possibly could.” So he was actually trying to implement the strategy of the Fauciites — particularly given how many elderly people there are, Buck, in Florida — and get as many vaccines in arms as you possibly could using the best possible method to do so.

BUCK: And then of course there’s the reality that we’ve discussed of how Democrats, including members of Congress, including AOC (among others) act when it comes to covid versus the way they speak about the issue. DeSantis called out AOC for being yet again another politician who was saying, “Florida’s reckless and there’s no mask and it’s so dangerous,” and they go, oh, but when I went to hang out and relax that’s where I go.

DESANTIS: If I had a dollar for every lockdown politician who decided to escape so Florida over the last two years —

CROWD: (laughing)

DESANTIS: – I’d be a pretty doggone wealthy man, let me tell you. I mean, congresspeople, mayors, governors, you name it — and it’s interesting, though, the reception that some of these folks will get in Florida because I think a lot of Floridians say, “Wait a minute. You’re bashing us because we’re not doing your Draconian policies, and yet we’re the first place you want to flee to basically to be able to enjoy life,” and so I’m not surprised to see that continue to happen.

BUCK: These people are in denial, by the way, the ones that ignore this stuff, that think, “Ooh, who cares that AOC goes to Florida.” No, it matters a lot actually. When you’re pushing for children to be masked up in schools where you live because that’s where your political power base is. But when you go on vacation you’re maskless, big crowds, kids, adults, who cares? It matters a lot. But I think there’s a lot of denialism, Clay, on the left about all this.

Because so many people were so sure. They believed. Fauci was a father figure for them, a religious figure for them. Pope Fauci was giving his edicts. It’s really hard, I think, for a lot of particularly those on the left who are used to thinking of themselves as being smart and elevated just for having the right positions, to have to come to grips with the fact that you got swindled, libs. You’re just not that smart.

CLAY: Well, not only did they get swindled, what they’re now trying to do is convince everyone — and this is a calculated attempt — that they never said masks protect, that they never said, “If you will get the covid vaccine, it will prevent you from getting and spreading covid.” That’s 100% what they said. So don’t allow them to pivot and now say, “No, no, no! We just said that masks help some,” even though that’s still disputable, certainly cloth masks.

Now their guy’s saying, “Oh, no, no! We never…” There’s a lot of people saying this now, Buck. “Oh, we never said that the vaccine was going to prevent you from getting covid or spreading it. We just said that you weren’t gonna get super sick if you got covid.” You notice how that’s also the statement that every Democrat makes whenever they test positive now? Lloyd Austin, the secretary of defense, just came out and said, “Hey, I’m tested positive from covid.

“I’m double vaccinated.. I’m also boostered, but my doctors…” They always say, “My doctors have assured me because I’m vaccinated and I’m boostered that I’ll have minimal symptoms as a result.” I didn’t get the vaccine. You know what I had? Minimal symptoms. You know what most people who get covid have whether they’re vaccinated or unvaccinated? Minimal symptoms. That’s even more true with Omicron. So what are you actually proving? How do you know that the reason you had minimal symptoms was because you got the covid vaccine?

The reality is more most people when you got vaccinated or not, your symptoms are going to be relatively minimal if you get covid. It doesn’t mean for everybody. And again, over 75 years old, senior citizens, if you have immune system issues, all those things, I think you should do everything you can to protect yourself. But for the vast majority of us, Buck, we’re gonna be 100 billion percent fine if we get covid — and ultimately, herd immunity is what is going to save us.

BUCK: It was also really vicious — and I did want to take a moment to backtrack for a second here. For the conversations we’ve had for the last four months or so, there was really a period this fall where Biden, all that pandemic of the unvaccinated, the unvaccinated are a threat.

CLAY: The winter of death!

BUCK: Well, that’s saying that they’re at risk.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: But I’m talking about really demeaning people that were unvaccinated as a public health threat, they were the unwashed, they were the unclean, and now we see that’s just not true. And it should be something that we all take a step back and say, “That was a terrible thing the Biden administration did, assuming that people who are unvaccinated,” irrespective of natural immunity, which we now know beyond any doubt is more powerful, lasting, and durable than the vaccinated kind.

This is now irrefutable based on the largest studies that have existed to date, or I should say cannot yet be refuted because it is science. But here we are now just moving past it, and, Clay, there was a real effort to create the undesirables, to create the less-than among the unvaccinated based upon their threat to others. If you want to take a threat to yourself, that’s one thing. You want to be a threat to other people, that was what the whole basis of this was. And they were wrong. And it’s gross. And I think it’s immoral, and the Biden regime should be held to account for it.

CLAY: I think it’s well said, 100% correct. And I would just say they’re continuing, like, even during the holiday break they said the unvaccinated are going to have a winter of death! I don’t think that’s true, either, and I think they’re continuing to try to divide us while not actually looking at the data and the science.

BUCK: I’d be fascinated to see — real quick, Clay — what the actual hospitalization data for vaxxed and unvaxxed looks like by the end of January. It’s gonna be very interesting.

CLAY: We’re never gonna see the real data. That’s my concern.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: They’re not gonna share it with us.

Little Lab Coat Tyrant Pushes Vax Mandate to Fly

3 Jan 2022

CLAY: We know that vaccine mandates don’t work — Buck is sitting right now in New York City, which has had one of the strictest vaccine mandates in the world — and also we know that masks don’t work. New York City with an all-time high right now in covid cases. The same thing is starting to happen in Los Angeles. Washington, D.C., has strict mandates that are in place.

And Washington, D.C., for much of the holiday season had the highest rate of covid anywhere in the country. And what happens is these maniacs believe when things don’t work, they need to come up with other things that are not gonna work that are further gonna restrict and hamstring everyone and try to make it look like that’s what really ended up shifting the tide.

Even though this is a virus that we’re gonna have relatively no impact on with much of the cosmetic theater that we are involved in. And that’s why when Dr. Fauci went on MSNBC on December 27th and he said, “A vaccine mandate for all fliers on U.S. domestic airlines is reasonable requirement and something that should seriously be considered,” I saw it and I said, “My God. This is driving me insane, even the discussion of it.” It’s cut 17.

FAUCI: If you’re talking about requiring a vaccination to get on a plane domestically, that is just another one of the requirements that I think is reasonable to consider and I think that’s what you’re talking about when you heard me make a comment. You know, there’s requirements that you might want to get if you want to get into college or you want to go to a university or you want to work in certain places. When you make vaccination a requirement, that’s another incentive to get more people vaccinated. If you want to do that with domestic flights, I think that’s something that seriously should be considered.

BUCK: You know, Clay, it’s not an “incentive” that the IRS will throw you in prison if you don’t pay your taxes.

CLAY: (laughing) Yeah.

BUCK: Notice the way that Fauci, the lab coat tyrant, sets all this up. (impression) “If you get the shot, you can keep your job.” What a great perk! What a benefit! This is not the way this works, actually. When you threaten people… You know, the armed robber is not doing you a favor by letting you live after they have stolen from you. That’s not the way that we formulate these things, and what he’s doing here on the possible vaccine mandate for airline travel is to forget about the fact that the whole basis for vaccine mandates isn’t about individual safety, ’cause that’s a choice issue. It’s about stopping the spread, which vaccines don’t do.

CLAY: That’s right, and this is what’s so frustrating about the underlying argument is the vaccines. Everybody, if we had a 100% vaccination rate, we’d still have pretty much the exact same outbreak that’s going on right now because they don’t work.

How Did You Come Up with the Dingy Harry Nickname, Rush?

3 Jan 2022

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