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Stanford Athletics Issues Utterly Illogical Covid Restrictions

4 Jan 2022

CLAY: I think, unfortunately, these are the canaries in the coal mines. We told you that Toronto was effectively shutting down the province of Ontario while Stanford Athletics — and if you remember, some of the first places to shut down were in the world of sports and initially the Ivy League. Stanford Athletics just sent out this message and this email:

“Effective immediately: Spectator attendance at all winter events will be temporarily reduced to a limited number of student-athlete families while outdoor events will require social distancing and mask wearing for attendees.”

That is Stanford — one of the ostensibly smartest institutions in our nation — making a thoroughly illogical choice as it pertains to covid.

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I-95 Disaster: KKK Northam’s Parting Gift to Virginia

4 Jan 2022

BUCK: We’ve got Doug in Maryland who has got some thoughts on that I-95 traffic jam from hell. What’s up, Doug?

CALLER: How you guys doing? First-time caller.

BUCK: First time talking to you, sir. Thanks for giving us your time.

CALLER: (chuckling) Hey, yeah. What’s going on on I-95 where you have thousands of people stranded, you have people out of gas, you don’t have it resources available as far as being able to get the road cleared off — the interstate cleared off — in a timely fashion and you don’t have the funds available because, when you have a Democrat in charge, whether like you guys said earlier whether it be federally or statewide, this is what you get. You get total ineptness. You don’t have the funds available ’cause they’re wasted on other things, and now you have a disaster takes place for the last 24 hours and through this entire state of Virginia. Democrats are in charge!

BUCK: Hold on a second. Hold on a second, Doug. Doug, it sounds like you’re telling me Governor Ralph Northam of “I don’t know if I was in the Klan costume or the blackface” story is not doing a good job in Virginia. Is that what you’re telling us?

CALLER: Yeah. It’s unfortunate that we can’t have like the new governor come in already. It’s evident that he wasn’t respected for this emergency. What do you guys think about this?

CLAY: Well, I think in general — this is just me, okay? — southern people are incompetent when it comes to snow, in my experience, Democrats, Republicans, independents. I don’t know the specifics of how I-95 got shut down like it did for so many people. It’s obviously an unmitigated disaster that it could occur. I don’t know the specifics of how it occurred, if that make sense.

I know that the state of Virginia — I would guarantee — does not have a massive cache of snowplows just like my home state of Tennessee doesn’t have massive amounts of snowplows. So people from north can make fun of us, but when it snows we don’t have the ability to get roads cleared. And also Virginia, much like Tennessee, people who live in Virginia and Tennessee and Kentucky and places like this are gonna understand — Buck, you New Yorkers don’t really understand this.

We are always right on the line of, is it gonna be the worst possible weather, which is like 35 in a cold rain or is it gonna be 31 and snow or is it gonna be 32 or 33? And we get the dreaded wintry mix where we get like sleet, ice, snow, it all mixes in together. So we are oftentimes a disaster because we aren’t prepared for cold weather. That’s why I always say, “Cold weather and snow and ice hit in the South, stay in your house. Don’t go out.”

BUCK: All of our listeners in WFLA Tampa and WIOD Miami —

CLAY: That’s why we moved south.

BUCK: — say it’s an interesting Nashville situation there. Sorry about that.

CLAY: Well, I just see people driving through. The ice is a mess, and so I don’t know exactly what happened in Virginia. But my thing is — and this is why I always say it to Southerners. I had to tell my wife who came down from Michigan, “It’s different. If I’m in Michigan and they get a foot of snow, the roads are gonna be fine. People are gonna be out moving around in it.” If we get four inches of snow here, the city is shutting down. Don’t fight it.

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Democrats Can’t Run from Defund the Police

4 Jan 2022

BUCK: Essentially where Biden and Democrats are in charge, whether it’s federal or state, they’ve made a mess of things. They’ve lied, they’ve been wrong, they’ve been heavy-handed, they’ve been unconstitutional. You can also say many of the same things about the Democrat approach to crime. And the numbers are in, so to speak. Same way we look at covid cases, hospitalizations, breakthrough cases, which as we know don’t even count those anymore because they’re everywhere, all over the place. You look at the numbers for crime in the last year, and what you have isn’t just a bad look for Democrats.

It’s really a fundamental repudiation of their philosophy, if you can call it that, on law and order, that putting social justice over societal safety has disastrous consequences. It’s exactly what we’ve seen. At least 16 cities saw record homicide rates according to local police department data compiled by Fox News in the last year, and the nationwide increase is just staggering as a percentage.

But we often talk here — and I want to make sure we spread this out because I know Clay’s in Nashville; I’m in New York. We spend a fair amount of time in Florida and we’ll talk about L.A. and some of the big cities out there. But even a lot of mid-size cities had terrible years, and there are reasons for this. It’s not just an anomaly, an aberration, something that happens. There are reasons for this huge crime surge. Albuquerque, New Mexico, all-time high in homicides.

Atlanta, Georgia, homicides highest in 30 years. So not technically an all-time high. Austin, Texas, the highest ever. That is the highest ever. Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Columbus, Ohio; Indianapolis; Jackson, Mississippi; Louisville, Kentucky; Macon, Georgia; Milwaukee, Wisconsin. We’ve got our Milwaukee, Wisconsin, listeners, as you know, with us right now on WISN. I sit here, Clay, and I say there are reasons for this, and I’m most familiar with how they’re playing out in a place like New York.

But then we can extend this out to the national level. Here’s what’s going on. We got a new mayor who’s supposed to be friendly to cops. He was a cop himself. So what’s going on? He’s reinstituting the plainclothes unit. These are some of the best cops that you’re gonna find in New York. And their job is just to… They don’t do… They’re not arresting people for having a joint on the street or something — well, not that they do that at all in New York anymore.

They’re not. They’re going after violent gang activity, illegal guns on the streets in the hands of bad people. That’s all they do. De Blasio got rid of that. Adams is bringing it back. We’re supposed to say this is great. But hold on a second. Now today it’s come out that the new district attorney in New York is putting out all these guidelines for the carceral sentencing of people essentially. (summarized) “Hey, maybe we want to just avoid locking people up whenever it is humanly possible without the public turning on us in outrage.” They don’t seem to get it yet. I don’t actually think the message has been fully received, Clay, at least not by the bureaucracy. Maybe by some of the politicians.

CLAY: Yeah. What’s going on is being concerned about how you treat criminals is a luxury of a low-crime environment, and I don’t think many people have really understood the root cause of this. You only can say “defund the police” when crime is so low that people feel incredibly safe. And what has happened, as Buck just pointed out, with cities all over the country is many of you have lived in cities where you had gotten to the point where you were used to crime basically going down every year.

Because we were putting criminals behind bars. Because we were allowing police to do their job. And in the space of one viral video… Obviously you can go all the way back to Ferguson in 2016 and also connect it there with the “hands up, don’t shoot” Michael Brown lie. But really in May of 2020, one viral video of George Floyd in Minneapolis directly led to police coming into attack all over this country — to such an extent that they were pulling COPS, the television show, off of television, and cops were under attack. Think how crazy that is. They went after —

BUCK: Paw Patrol, the kids’ show! Paw Patrol.

CLAY: They went after the puppy that is dressed like a police officer on Paw Patrol, the left-wingers did, to argue that it was too positive of a representation of police. So what we are seeing now is Democrats — and I think this is important, ’cause I think it ties in with what they’re gonna try to do with the shutdowns and the lockdowns and school and everything else, Buck. Now it’s almost impossible to find any politician in the country that is in favor of defund the police.

And in fact, they now argue, Buck, “Oh, we never said defund the police! We didn’t actually mean defund the police,” because thousands of people all over this country are dead, and most of them are young minorities in inner city neighborhoods — ’cause that’s where the overwhelming number of victims are — and that’s why people white, black, Asian, Hispanic of all stripes, persuasions do not want police to be defunded because they know how important they are. And I think we’re seeing it spin back in the other direction now where we’re going to be supporting police more, but it’s all based on one video.

BUCK: This is why I’m concerned. In New York — and again using that as the canary in the coal is mine, so to speak. What you have in New York is a change, okay, a little more supportive of police. I think that’s correct. That’s part of it. They’re gonna have to say, “Oh, we’re gonna refund the police. But it’s more than just that. We’ve talked here about the Soros-backed progressive prosecutors. We’ve talked about Republicans — and I will not forget this — and this was a moment where I did disagree with the initial Trump administration approach.

I thought they were running a little scared from this in June of 2020, when we’re hearing about criminal justice reform and all these criminal justice reform bills that we have to pass and how we’re gonna have greater police accountability. A lot of that stuff — and that often comes down to prosecutors’ offices. That’s what I mean by the bureaucracy and the progressive virus, if you will, that has spread throughout a lot of major city bureaucracies. A lot of that is maybe gonna continue on for a while here because they’re less accountable, because the public is less aware of it.

And that’s why I get concerned when you see the new mayor saying, “Okay, we’re gonna back cops,” but the new district attorney coming up with this social justice framework for when the district attorneys can actually try — or the assistant district attorneys can actually try — to get prison sentences for people. We have been too lenient on violent criminals the last year. That is a reality with the bail reform laws, with the way that these major cities approach this.

So the police part of it — again, I think you’re right that that is switching back because the politicians know that’s a vulnerability. But the overly criminal justice framework? You’re still gonna hear Biden and Kamala and the rest giving all this talk about how we need “greater equity,” and what does that really mean? I mean, what does social justice in the context of law enforcement as the left sees it mean?

CLAY: Well, and this is where every four years Black Lives Matter reemerges. So in ’16, we had a presidential election, “hands up, don’t shoot,” Black Lives Matter becomes a politically viable force. In ’20, they show back up, George Floyd. Are you telling me really that nothing happens in between those years that is going to justify the relevance of that group being active? I guarantee you… You want a prediction right now?

In 2024, they will find – -because it will exist — a viral video which is not representative of what most police officers do on a day-to-day basis that is going to make police look bad, that will give Black Lives Matter a reason to believe out in the streets protesting to try and hang the responsibility for misbehavior on police on Republicans. I guarantee you it’s gonna happen. But in the meantime, thousands of people are gonna die because of the failures to stand up to BLM and to support police.

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The Real Reason Twitter Banned Marjorie Taylor Greene

4 Jan 2022

CLAY: We’ve not talked a great deal about the fact that Marjorie Taylor Greene got suspended from Twitter. We talked about it a little bit yesterday and asked the question, “Why in the world is it that there are no left wingers, despite the fact that they are spreading misinformation like crazy…?” We played a lot of the clips of all the things that have since been proven to be untrue that they have said about covid while maintaining that people like Buck and I don’t have the right to say and share the data that we have.

But really the story here is there is such an alliance between the Democratic Party and Big Tech that they believe that Big Tech should be shutting down anybody making arguments that they don’t like. Here is Representative Jayapal laying out the fact that conservative lawmakers are being responded too little and too late when they are actually banned. Listen to this.

REP. PRAMILA JAYAPAL: It’s no secret that our social media companies have been part of their algorithms promoting disinformation. And, um, I think that these steps are important, but, frankly, a little too little and a little too late. Uh, the reality is it’s not just Marjorie Taylor Greene. All over Twitter, social media, Facebook, uh, all of these companies have been using algorithms that are just about click bait, not about truth. And so if we are, uh, take on the disinformation that’s out there, the Big Lie, and everything else that goes with it, then yes, this is a part of it, but it’s gotta be much, much more.

BUCK: You get a sense of it, Clay, from what she’s saying — and this isn’t often talked about, but — they really just want the ability to shut down effective political opponents. That’s actually what matters to them. You’re never gonna get conspiracy theories and all kinds of crazy and awful and evil stuff off the internet entirely — and they’re not even trying — and they’re not gonna get it off of social media platforms either, right?

So this isn’t about some guy who has five followers who’s a flat-earther. What the Democrats want is the power it direct the national conversation, to set the narrative. And to do that, they want to be able to deplatform prominent voices on the other side. This is about Marjorie Taylor Greene. It’s not about just this general concept of disinformation. They’re using this as a form of political information warfare. That’s what this is really about.

CLAY: And I have a major issue. Regardless of whether you’re a Democrat, Republican, independent, if you are a duly elected official in the United States, the idea that a tech company can take away your ability to communicate with the audience is a fundamental repudiation of the marketplace of ideas. Because if you are an elected official, people should be able to see and hear what you are saying on a day-to-day basis because that’s how they make decisions about whether or not to support you.

And when you’re talking about “disinformation”? Don’t give me that crap when you spent five years saying Donald Trump was elected because of Russian collusion and now you’re upset because January 6th happened? Look. The reality is, as you well know, if Democrats had won the election, I really think that the riots would have been far worse than what we saw.

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Joe Manchin Keeps Killing Democrat Dreams

4 Jan 2022

CLAY: The big story that happened during Christmas break, during the new year break: Joe Manchin — a real slap in the face to the Biden administration — announced that he would not accept or support Build Back Better as it’s presently constituted, and he went on Fox News to do it with Bret Baier, which I know just had to drive the White House crazy. Manchin is now back on Capitol Hill, and he was just asked recently is he going to support both the filibuster — which he said, “No, nothing’s changed there” — and also have they had any conversations about Build Back Better and whether or not he would support it. Here’s what Manchin said.

MANCHIN: (sigh) I’m really not going to talk about Build Back Better anymore (chuckles) because I think I’ve been very clear on that. There is no negotiations go on at this time, okay? And there’s an awful lot of things that had a lot of — a lot of things that were very (long pause) I think well intended. And there was all of the things that were pretty far reach on some things. And the most delicate times that we have right now and our country is divided. And I don’t intend to do anything that divides our country anymore. So whatever I can do to unite and bring people together — and that means you have to work harder as you work across the aisle to bring people together.

BUCK: I just want to say, Clay, this is the system working. Believe it or not, I know people don’t often pose it that way. Certainly, Democrats think that this is awful. Bernie Sanders has a lot of trouble with math. He’s like (impression), “One Senator shouldn’t stop all this.” No, it’s all the Republicans plus. But here what we have is the system working the way it’s supposed to insofar as you shouldn’t have a massive, multitrillion-dollar additional spending package going through that will change a lot of aspects of the American economy and day-to-day lives, when there’s absolutely no legislative mandate expressed through the will of people voting to do so.

When you have a razor-thin majority, you’re not supposed to try to transform the country, and I know this was the old Obama line about fundamental transformation of America. Obama, unfortunately, got to that sixty-vote threshold. Remember this? That’s actually how bad things were after eight years of the Bush administration. So as much as I disagreed with and opposed everything that he was trying to do, they did have the votes for a period of time there to do it.

And they tried Obamacare. They tried all these radical proposals. Biden doesn’t have it. He simply doesn’t have the votes. They can whine about it all day. They can cry about it. But if the American people wanted this, then they would have the votes to do it, and this is the part of it that they keep trying to avoid people recognizing.

CLAY: And I think the big takeaway as well is Joe Manchin’s gonna run again in 2024, and we got a lot of people listening in West Virginia. I wonder on some level, Buck, after 2022 when the shellacking happened — ’cause I’m with you. We talked earlier about the importance of a red wave and holding Democrats accountable for defund the police and for not opening schools and for lying and failing on covid.

All of those things are significant, I think, in terms of holding Democrats responsible for the positions they staked out. It wouldn’t stun me at all if, after 2022, Joe Manchin goes full independent and says, “You know what? I just am not a part of this Democrat Party that exists right now,” and then potentially runs as an independent in 2024, because there’s no way a Democrat gets elected in West Virginia.

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Fauci Feels the Heat, Defends Cloth Masks

4 Jan 2022

BUCK: To mask or not to mask. That is the question that is posed to Fauci, and we’ll get into his answer in just a second here. Of course, it was a little over a year ago when I started telling people and tweeting out and saying on my radio show at the time, “Just wait. They’ll say the masks aren’t good enough. We need double masking, and we need N95.” This is a matter of public record.

Sure enough, Fauci came out in January of 2021, (doing impression) “We need two masks. If you want to consider three and maybe goggles.” I’m kind of lying about the goggles, but the rest of it was there, and the three. Although if you do a double mask and a visor, that’s three — or a face shield, that’s three — and people have done that to be sure. Here we have Fauci, though, just yesterday, talking. When asked about this, here’s what he says about cloth masks specifically.

REPORTER: Are cotton and surgical masks effective at preventing spread of Omicron?

FAUCI: Yeah. When the CDC says they are effective, in fact, they are.

BUCK: Okay. They are. That’s what he says. Clay, can we just hear a couple days ago here we had Dr. Leana Wen, and can you explain to me which one of these is the smart doctor that we’re supposed to listen to according to the libs?

WEN: Cloth masks are not appropriate for this pandemic. It was… It’s not appropriate for Omicron. It was not appropriate for Delta, Alpha, or any of the previous variants, either, because we’re dealing with something that’s airborne.

BUCK: Uh, okay. So which one is it, folks? All the people who go, “Wear your mask; pull your mask up”? Every airline attendant who says, “Pull it up over your nose or we’ll throw you out of the plane while it’s in flight” like the psychos they are? Clay, what the heck’s going on here, man? Who do we listen to?

CLAY: Well, this is a bad look, I think, for Fauci, and I think it reflects the pressure that he is feeling when massive numbers of the population are starting to look around and just say, “Wait a minute.” Even if you hadn’t been paying very much attention at all, if we had predicted, Buck… Imagine that you and I had said back in the summer, “Hey, there are going to be a million cases a day of covid in January of 2022.

“We are going to have double and triple the all-time highs of the number of covid cases, despite the fact that we’re gonna have vaccine mandates in many of the biggest cities in this country, despite the fact that we’re going to have, “and I’m putting it in quotation marks, “a vaccination rate of adults well over 70% in the United States, and that people are going to hold on to the idea of wearing masks as if their entire life depends on it.

“And yet we’re going to hit a million or more daily cases!” We would have been probably canceled on every social media platform for that prediction because it would have been considered so outrageous and unacceptable. And here we are sitting on this day, January 4th, and we are now testing over a million positive cases a day. And things are so bad now, Buck, that people are starting to argue, “Oh, we shouldn’t even focus on cases anymore.” That’s the new pivot that’s going to come out of the White House.

BUCK: I also love the science that makes the quarantine go from 10 to five days because they say so.

CLAY: Oh, yes. Totally nonexistent science. That’s predicated on the fact that they recognize that people are not gonna be able to work based on this thing otherwise. I mean, it’s a total sham, a hundred percent.

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BUCK: I got written up in a hit piece for saying that clinging to masks is a mental health issue at this point. (laughing) People really are —

CLAY: Who wrote up a hit piece on you for that?

BUCK: Mediaite. Not any… Only people in the media actually read Mediaite. But it’s pretty funny because while we were just talking before, I just want to know this is why we need to start having debate and exchange with people on these issues in a public forum in real time, not interviews that people are editing and piecing together. I really want to invite on any of the smarmy libs in media who want to make jokes about, “You’re so dumb if you don’t believe in masks.” Explain how Fauci says they work, but Dr. Leana Wen — and also, by the way, former FDA chief Dr. Scott Gottlieb — had this to say a couple of days ago.

GOTTLIEB: Cloth masks aren’t gonna provide a lot of protection. That’s the bottom line. This is an airborne illness, we now understand that, and a cloth mask is not gonna protect you from a virus that’s spread through airborne transmission. It could protect better through droplet transmission, something like the flu, but not something like this coronavirus.

BUCK: It does not work “for something like this coronavirus.” So can we stop, please? I’m just… I’m begging the idiots in the media out there on this one issue. Can they just stop pretending that there is this consensus? They can say masks work and then it goes, “Oh, we don’t know how well.” If you don’t know that it works really well, the idea that you would mandate this for people and act… There was a time, Clay — you remember this — when if you weren’t willing to do it, you were killing people’s grandparents. That’s what they were saying. You were basically guilty of murder if you wouldn’t wear a mask. These libs are out of their minds, and they’re wrong, and it’s sad to watch.

CLAY: You remember the reaction from some people who were furious when I went to the local school board and argued against kids having to wear masks here in my local public school district where my two youngest kids go. And fortunately, they’ve not had to wear masks here all throughout this entire school year. And, by the way, that’s one reason why you can’t buy a house in good school districts right now in Florida and Texas and Tennessee and places like this.

It’s because there’s such an overwhelming demand right now from people who are fleeing New York and California and the Chicago area. And Illinois in particular, if you look at the net migration numbers, that’s where people are leaving from. And we had that great conversation with Crystal Menkowitz, who’s one of your friends, who —

BUCK: Karol Markowicz, yes, the New York Post.

CLAY: Karol Markowicz. And that is becoming a trend line if you look at the Census data beyond a shadow of a doubt the amount of people fleeing. They’re voting with their feet. And, by the way, if they thought they were safer in blue states than people from red states, they would be moving there. That’s not occurring at all.

BUCK: But I’ve learned something important this week, Clay, and that is from now on when there’s any major news organization or even minor one that takes a swing at me and you could do this one, too, I’m just gonna respond. Clearly, they have hair envy and have some sort of weird attraction to me and that’s like what this is all about. I think that was finally AOC getting a little ahead of herself in a way where even her own side couldn’t cover for it.

CLAY: No. I don’t think there’s any doubt. By the way, I keep expecting for people to rip me for say the same things that you do and it’s like they won’t even take a shot at me. It’s not like you said something on the show yesterday about masks not working that I disagree with or that I haven’t tweeted myself.

BUCK: I don’t know. I guess they figure it’s just if they get at one of us, they’ll put pressure on both of us but all the data and all the actual information —

CLAY: The science is clear!

BUCK: — coming out now is supportive of what we’ve been saying. I sit here and I want to know. Think about some of the debates that you could have right now. If we lived in a society that still valued free speech and if the corporate, legacy Democrat media made any real effort to get to the truth instead of having a narrative that, remember, we always say it’s about control, but it’s about control in the context of power. These people want to be in charge.

They want their team in charge, and so covid then becomes a proxy for everything else, too, because if they aren’t backing them on this, they worry that then you won’t have transgender athletes that are men competing against women, and they won’t have abortion in all 50 states. You go down the list. So for them, it’s all interconnected which means they can never have any fundamental honesty even about this issue that’s supposed to be nonpolitical.

Remember when that was the talk in the early days? People like Fauci would say, “This isn’t about politics, it’s science,” and people were saying, “Yeah, yeah, sure it is,” and then Cuomo would give his speeches. Oh, yeah, remember that guy? Clay, they don’t have anyone who could stand up and defend their positions on masks, who could defend the “stop the spread,” who could defend lockdowns as worthwhile. They would get annihilated.

CLAY: We’ve offered, we’ve offered those people, Buck, to come on the show. We reached out to Fauci. We would have Dr. Leana Wen on. Any of these people that are trying to make the argument, you can come on. You can speak to the largest radio audience in the country, and you can make your case, and we will push back because we’re not just gonna allow somebody to come on and spread things that are not true. But we can have a legitimate debate. They won’t do it.

BUCK: I mean, Fauci, you could ask him these questions and know that he does not have the answer. And that’s a big deal. How long does the actual vaccine booster protection last? He doesn’t know. They have a guess. Okay. So how many more shots are you gonna have to get? He doesn’t know. How well to masks protect people even if they wear them, cloth masks, properly, 100% of the time they’re exposed? He couldn’t even ballpark a number, Clay. He does not have answers to these things. If people know, if they would hear him go, “It’s about mitigation and the measures,” the usual dance and crap that he does, they would realize this guy doesn’t even know what he’s doing, but they protect him all the time.

CLAY: They protect him all the time, and they don’t even allow him to be questioned. And that, to me, is the biggest failure of so much of our media, is they decide what’s an acceptable opinion to have and then they rigorously police anyone saying anything else until the acceptable opinion moves and you’re starting to see the moving occur right now. Happened with defund the police. Same thing’s gonna happen with masks and kids in schools.

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Clay Calls Out the Racist Covid Policies of NY’s Leftists

4 Jan 2022

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The Total Collapse of the Biden Covid Narrative

3 Jan 2022

BUCK: You’ve got New York City setting the all-time record for covid cases. You’ve got national covid cases spiking. The narrative, as we refer to it, is in a state of collapse. But instead of reevaluating and changing things up… You know, Clay was down in Florida. I was down in Florida for the break. AOC was down in Florida, if you’re wondering. They’re all so terrified of Ron DeSantis. But the moment they want some freedom, sunshine, and good times?

They run to Florida or maybe Texas or maybe Tennessee or a number of other states where things are much more chilled out, shall we say. The closest thing you can have as an American in 2022 to the feeling you must have had in East Berlin circa 1960 is leaving Florida for New York City. I gotta tell you, it is mind-blowing when you arrive here the amount of fear and anxiety and everyone’s masking and they’re masking outside and all of this.

What exactly has the Biden regime accomplished in the last 12 months? The January 6th insurrection anniversary is this week. Clay and I will talk to you a lot about that today too. But what has Biden done well in 12 months? Where is the one thing? Anyone who says covid is out of their minds, okay? Crush covid? Shut down the virus, not the economy? Not true. That is not what happened.

I mean, Clay, the observations that one must have from going in and out of a free state to a place like this… New York City is the worst in the country now for covid cases but also for covid madness. It does feel increasingly like we are in a postevidence, postdata phase of the pandemic where now it’s just all the habits. Now it’s all the Fauciism in place of reason.

CLAY: We told everyone exactly what was gonna happen when we left right before Christmas, and I echo what you said. I hope everybody had a great Christmas, great New Year’s, great early holiday season. But even predicting and expecting what we were going to see, the level of lying and duplicity and dishonesty as everyone tries to scramble to pretend that they never said what we heard them tell us for months… I mean, Buck, this was over the last couple of weeks, to me, the ultimate collapse of Joe Biden’s entire 2020 promise, to the extent you want to call anything that he says a promise.

The basis for his campaign was, “I’m gonna shut down the virus,” and worse than that, every bit of data that he tried to rely on in his first year… Buck, just think about it. They told us mask up, social distance, let’s just focus on masks. And now everybody is coming out and saying what you and I have been saying for over a year: Cloth masks don’t work; they’re totally worthless.

We were told, screamed at, harangued, that if we got the covid shot, that you would not only not get covid… That’s what they told us, although they’re trying to shift the story now. You would not only not get covid, it would end with you, and you would never be able to spread it to anyone else. We are sitting at all-time highs in covid, and everything and that they lectured and us that they said, “You aren’t allowed to discuss” has been proven to be a lie. The party of science has failed on an epic level the likes of which most of us have never seen in our lives.

BUCK: It’s pretty explicit now that there are different rules for different people in the debate and public sphere about this, because Marjorie Taylor Greene, a member of Congress — and we’ll get into this later in the show. A lot of you know her right from the state of Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been kicked off of Twitter forever. So she’s now banned. She’s a sitting member of Congress. She’s off Twitter.

The ayatollahs, so to speak, the Taliban, they can have a Twitter account. You know, I mean, Putin can have a Twitter account, but you can’t have Marjorie Taylor Greene with a Twitter account and he will would get into why that is. But to the point about masking, you know, I remember — this is to remind everybody, Clay and I first team up and talk about this issue early on in the pandemic because, like, hold on a second.

What doctor says that? “Oh, a mask just makes people feel better and doesn’t work,” and then a few weeks later goes, “Well, I was actually lying. I just didn’t want you to run out of masks.” That’s what Fauci did. That’s not ethical. That’s not credible. That’s not what really happened. What became clear was that people were clinging to masks as first an anxiety tool.

Right? I’m so scared — and then it was a compliance show. It was, “This is… I’m one of the good people.” But you and I have gotten… I’ve gotten fact checks written up about me. I’ve got Twitter strikes and Facebook shutdowns and all this. And I know you have too. This is so weird, Clay, ’cause here’s CNN’s favorite doc on this over the break, Dr. Leana Wen, on CNN.

WEN: Cloth masks are not appropriate for this pandemic. It was… It’s not appropriate for Omicron. It was not appropriate for Delta, Alpha, or any of the previous variants either because we’re dealing with something that’s airborne.

BUCK: Oh, okay. Wait approximately hold on, hold on, Clay! She’s not the only one. Dr. Scott Gottlieb on Face the Nation over the weekend said this about masks at this stage, 13.

GOTTLIEB: Cloth masks aren’t gonna provide a lot of protection that’s the bottom line. This is an airborne I met. We only understand that, and a cloth mask is not gonna protect from you a virus that’s spread through airborne transmission. It could protect better through droplet transmission something like the flu but not something like this coronavirus.

BUCK: We have known, Clay, that this is aerosolized and not droplet spread for 18 months going on two years! (laughing) But they say it now and it’s okay.

CLAY: And what they’re really going to say, certainly Dr. Leana Wen who is the queen of pandemic overresponse… I mean, what she’s gonna say is that everybody needs to be in N95 masks including your children, which is totally nonsensical. But all of this is a collapsing narrative, and what’s interesting to watch, Buck, is just how quickly they’re all claiming that they didn’t say what they actually did say.

I want to play this, ’cause I think that Rachel Maddow… All of the lies that she told in March, none of it’s been flagged as disinformation. None of it has been in any way, Buck, acknowledged as, “Oh, she’s one of the bad people. She’s a fraud.” We need to get into what’s actually hanging going forward and what they’re trying to argue. But if you actually listen to what… I believe we have this audio, right, of Rachel Maddow. Number 10. This is March 29th of 2021. This is when all of the things that she says about the effectiveness of the covid vaccine, they’re all lies, and there’s virtually no consequences. Listen to this.

MADDOW: Instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person potentially mutating and becoming more virulent and drug resistant along the way, now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person! A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus. The virus does not infect them. The virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people. That means the vaccines will get us the end of this.

BUCK: She could not have been more wrong, Clay.

CLAY: Everything she said is a hundred percent wrong.

BUCK: And it’s not like she just went out there — and I know MSNBC’s gonna pay her $30 million a year to do a documentary a month or every six months, whatever it is, everything that she said was really just a reflection of what the consensus of the apparatus was at all. Rochelle Walensky of the CDC, Dr. Fauci of NIAID, they were all pushing the same storyline. There’s two big… There’s a lot of ways you can analyze this and see it as deeply troubling but there’s two sides of it.

On the one hand, being really wrong about medicine and about health issues when you claim to know the answer — not to have an idea but to know the answer — is in and of itself a problem, but beyond that, just for credibility, decisions have been made, and this is why I get so angry about the cloth mask thing as well and masking up between bites and all this idiocy. Decisions are made by people and have been made, Clay, based on this incorrect scientific, quote, unquote, proclamation.

So there are individuals, for example, who might have thought to themselves, “I’m at pretty high risk from covid, but I’m not worried ’cause I can’t get it ’cause I’m vaccinated.” We check really think of it. This isn’t part of the public discussion. There are individuals in the same category, high risk, who might say, “Oh, I know somebody. Maybe they have covid and we’re on the borderline if they could still be infectious, but I’m wearing a cloth mask, so I’ll be fine.” This is reckless, what Fauci and the rest have done.

CLAY: There are massive numbers of people who still don’t know what we’re telling our audience right now, and I hope most of them already know ’cause they’re trying to stay informed on these things. But lots of people are busy. They went and got their vaccine shot. They heard Joe Biden say, “If you get the vaccine you won’t get covid.” They heard all of the, quote, unquote, experts say this.

And the reason why this is so fundamentally anti-science, Buck, is because science is about questioning everything. And what you are seeing right now is the alignment between the government and Big Tech is insisting on one storyline, even if that storyline is not supported going forward by factual data. And when those stories blow up — when the narrative explodes and is no longer able to be defended — they don’t acknowledge the wrongness of what they said, Buck. They move the goalposts and pretend that what they said in the past was never there.

They try to already to say… What do they say now? “We never said that the vaccine would end covid! We check said that the vaccine was going to stop you from getting or spreading covid.” (laughing) No, we just played you the audio. That’s exactly what all of our, quote, experts were saying, and they’ve now been proven to be a hundred percent wrong, and the reality is what you and I have said for a long time, what our friend Alex Berenson has said for a long time”

Ultimately, it’s probably going to be natural immunity and/or the mutations of the virus — which we can get into with Omicron — that ends up ending this thing, just like happened a hundred years ago. We think we’re so much smarter now than we were when the Spanish Flu outbreak happened. Effectively, if you go and compare what happened two years ago to what happened with covid, I think you’re going to see almost identical end results.

BUCK: I’ve been saying this is a confluence, if you will, of mass media and mass hysteria for a long time, and you’re starting to hear — this came up on Joe Rogan’s show — “mass formation psychosis.” That’s where we are, everybody. There’s about a third of the country. And unfortunately, they control the social media companies, CNN —

CLAY: Congress.

BUCK: — and the top tier of the Democrat Party. About a third of the country is in a postreason, postdata mind-set with all of this stuff. It’s really not about what we know and what we’re learning anymore. And for those that live — and I have to always remind everybody this. Those that live in the free states, congrats. You made wise choices. You’re better off than those of us who live in the blue hellholes of New York and California and, you know, New Jersey and a few other places.

But the federal government is not done with you. The Biden administration is not done. They’re still pushing for this vaccine mandate for businesses. They may… I mean, the only thing that will stop them is the political unpopularity of it, but has that stopped them thus far? They may try to do something for domestic air travel.

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