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18 Jan 2022

Be sure to listen daily to Rush’s Timeless Wisdom podcast here or on iHeartRadio. It’s absolutely essential information from America’s Forever Anchorman.

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EIB 24/7: Clay & Buck’s Show Prep

18 Jan 2022

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Buck on Synagogue Attacker, Dems Smear Sinema

18 Jan 2022

The Biden FBI is so politicized with wokeness, they refused to identify the Pakistani Muslim who seized Jewish hostages accurately, memory-holing the fact that he took his action specifically for the terrorist called “Lady Al-Qaeda”! While protecting our enemies from bad press, leftists are savaging Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) as a racist agent of white supremacy! Buck brought some sanity to the debate on Fox.

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Clay on 2022 Games: “We Should Not Be in Beijing”

18 Jan 2022

Clay came out swinging on America’s Newsroom and said what the president ought to say: American athletes should not be in Beijing for the Olympics. He also took aim at the telling comments made by the Golden State Warriors owner, who doesn’t care about the Chinese Uyghur genocide.

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Clay And Dr. Makary Rip Liberal Covid Grave Dancers

17 Jan 2022

Frequent Clay & Buck Show guest Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins — also a covid policy advisor to freshly minted Governor Glenn Youngkin of Virginia — joined Clay on Fox News Primetime to call out ghoulish leftists who celebrate whenever someone unvaccinated dies.

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Buck Talks Wokeness Running Amok in the Biden Regime

17 Jan 2022

Buck appeared on Fox News Primetime to break down the absurd wokeness infecting the Biden FBI, leading to massive failures — including the absurd whitewashing of the Muslim terrorist who took the Texas synagogue hostage.

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Governor Glenn Youngkin Reclaims Virginia for Sanity

17 Jan 2022

BUCK: We want to start with actually some really encouraging news. Clay and I covered the incredible win of governor — now governor, just sworn in, just taken the office — Glenn Youngkin in Virginia. Now, Virginia is a state that had been trending very blue in recent years. Youngkin had a big win over Terry McAuliffe. He’s come into office, and he’s come in swinging right away. On his first day, he has ended the state mask mandate for public schools.

He ended the covid vaccine mandate for state workers, banned critical race theory from the classroom, and he is setting himself up to be — right away — following up on the promise, the initial promise of his campaign, which had to be with parents’ rights in education and a more-sane view of governance in the state of Virginia overall. Here he is on making sure that parents’ rights are protected.

YOUNGKIN: The fact that that tweet came out from Arlington County within minutes of my executive order? What that tells me is they haven’t listened to parents yet. You know, if there’s one thing that hopefully everybody heard in November, it is time to listen to parents. So, over the course of this week, I hope they will listen to parents, because we will use every resource within the governor’s authority to explore what we can do and will do in order to make sure that parents rights are protected.

BUCK: So, Clay, you and I both have the experience — it’s kind of funny, actually, ’cause you’re a Nashville guy; I’m a New York City guy — of spending considerable time in our nation’s capital.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: And Arlington, Virginia, is really just an adjunct or an annex of Washington, D.C. It is very blue — there are actually some very, very wealthy counties there per capita — and tends to be a Democrat stronghold. As soon as the governor comes in and says, “There’s no more mask mandate in schools,” Arlington puts out a tweet saying, “Well, we’re just not gonna go along with that.” I think this is so interesting, the noncompliance. When libs are in power with this stuff, it’s, “We have the power to do it.” The moment they lose the power, it’s, “We’re gonna do it anyway.” Youngkin is saying, “The parents are the ones I represent here.”

CLAY: Well, and I just want to emphasize again how much of a ridiculous battle this is. If you want your kid in an N95 mask, if you want your kid triple masked up, you have the right to do that as a parent. What all of these Republican governors are saying is, “We’re just not gonna allow the mandate to continue to exist,” and I saw this as soon as the news came out that he had been inaugurated, these first actions.

We should also mention, by the way, that his top advisor now on covid is Dr. Marty Makary who has been on this show a great number of times and has given consistently fantastic advice as it pertains to what children should be doing in particular with covid. Buck, this probably won’t surprise you, but as soon as that happened, in the headline in the Washington Post… Did you see this headline?

The Washington Post: “Governor-elect,” this was right before he was signed in, “Glenn Youngkin has named a respected physician who opposes blanket vaccine mandates and downplayed the threat of the coronavirus to children as his lead adviser on pandemic response.” Now, the Washington Post headline says he “downplayed the threat of coronavirus to children.” Did he downplay the thread, Buck, or did he accurately share data on what was going on with children and covid?

Because this to me is evidence of how unfair the media can be. This is not an opinion piece, right? If somebody from the Washington Post wanted to write an opinion piece — and I’m sure they will — “Glenn Youngkin is endangering children everywhere by ending the mask mandate and hiring Dr. Marty Makary to be his new adviser on covid related issues,” that’s an opinion piece. I disagree with it. You disagree with it.

Many of the people out there in audience disagree, and probably the majority of Virginia voters who put Glenn Youngkin into office would disagree with it. But that’s their right as an opinion piece. What happens is, this gets disguised as news as if his opinions on covid and children are somehow downplaying. (chuckles) He’s just shared you will the actual data! You’re not downplaying anything when you share the legitimate data when it comes to kids and covid.

So I give credit to Glenn Youngkin for coming out, making that decision to hire Makary. Ladapo, by the way, also a fantastic hire that Ron DeSantis has made as the Florida surgeon general. These are guys that are incredibly well educated, that are at the very peak of the intellectual rigor that you would want for a doctor and scientists advising policy to represent, and yet they immediately get attacked. But I love it. “Elections,” as Obama said, “have consequences,” and if I’m in Virginia right now I’m loving the immediate actions that have been undertaken by Glenn Youngkin.

BUCK: The fact that he comes in as well and bans by executive order CRT teaching in the classroom fascinating to watch so many of the libs running around saying there’s no CRT in schools and then when you say, “Well, we’re gonna ban the attaching of CRT in schools,” they completely freak out. So it can’t be both of these things. They can’t have it both ways. Here he is just saying the new governor of Virginia we’re gonna remove this kind of politics from the classroom.

YOUNGKIN: Starting today, we will raise standards. We will raise teacher pay. We will invest in facilities. We will invest in children with disabilities. We will remove politics from the classroom and refocus on essentials. Yes, we will remove politics from the classroom, and we will focus on essential math and science and reading, and we will teach all of our history, the good and the bad.

BUCK: Isn’t it fascinating, Clay, that when he says things like we will focus on teaching math and English, you know that the national teachers unions — and a lot of the education commissars out there — bristle at that. Somehow, they get upset about a refocusing on what schools are really supposed to be doing in the first place because they’ve recognized — and they’ve used for a long time — the schools as indoctrination factories.

They’re teaching kids to think about the world particularly about America a certain way, and so all you have to do is see their response to someone saying, “Let’s focus on the actual nuts and bolts of an education and a lot less on teaching whether it’s critical race theory or some other form of left-wing indoctrination in the schools,” you can always tell who’s effective by how much the left hates them. The left is really starting to hate Glenn Youngkin, which is a great sign.

CLAY: Well, and also, I think it’s hard for them to attack him — and this is, I think, a representative sample of what Republicans can take as we move into the 2022 midterm. I saw a data point out there — I’m sure you did too, Buck — Gallup does a regular poll on which party is favored in the moments going on right now. Every quarter, they had a constantly running poll. Republicans have moved to plus five, which is the highest level Republicans have been nationwide since 1994 effectively in terms of the national response and what people are saying.

I think Glenn Youngkin-like candidates are incredibly difficult to attack because, one, Glenn Youngkin is very smart. Two, he is primarily a business and data-based guy. He’s going to look at the facts, make a rational analysis of the facts, and come up with a policy that fits those facts. And what Democrats have failed to recognize is they’ve basically — while they’re trying to wrap themselves and say, “we’re the party of science,” they basically — have become a party that is very anti-facts.

Whenever facts are uncomfortable for Democrats, you know what they do? They immediately call the person who is sharing those facts a racist, a sexist, a homophobe. That’s their only attack. They don’t engage in intellectual debate anymore. The Democratic Party has become very much of a leap-of-faith party, and so you have Glenn Youngkin and he’s laying out these basic facts here and he hires Dr. Marty Makary who’s going to help him analyze those facts.

And the way that Republicans are sort of putting Democrats into a tough spot is they’re making Democrats just go back to the old tried and true attacks of “everything is racist,” and it doesn’t land on guys like these who are hyperrational. I think those punches are becoming weaker, as we talked about last week. That boy who cried wolf, everything-is-racist angle, eventually people stopped turning just like in the old children’s story, even when the wolf shows up, people won’t recognize it anymore.

Democrats have so overplayed their hand, they don’t even really know what to do, and I think you’re seeing that with the voting rights bill in national, Buck, as well which is supposed… Remember the deadline that Schumer put in place was today, Buck. He was saying, “We have to have this done by Martin Luther King Day,” and now he’s bumped it to later in the week. They’re going to lose, and that story is not working.

BUCK: Jen Psaki responded to the Governor Youngkin order on masks. Remember, they always frame this as a ban on masks. That’s not what it is.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: It’s you don’t have to wear a mask — and, by the way, that would have been far more acceptable to me all along. If people want to wear masks, that’s one thing, if you want to be on a plan, masking between bites like an idiot, that’s up to you. But the fact that I have to do it too is the objectionable part. The fact that people have reasonable emotional health and rational ability to think through things, we shouldn’t be forced to cater to the neuroses of libs who watch too much MSNBC.

And Jen Psaki here responds to Youngkin’s order with — and this is the White House press secretary, everybody. We all know that.

First of all, all the variants are transmissible. So what the heck is that supposed to mean? And everyone needs to understand this is in the context of the big push now has become N95 masks and double masking for kids in schools. I don’t know how many of you have actually tried to wear an N95 mask for long periods of time, even medical personnel will tell you it’s really uncomfortable.

It’s much… It’s harder to breathe through. It’s heavier on your face. This is crazy. But this is where they’re going because they’ve had to admit the cloth masks do not stop the spread of the Omicron infection in any meaningful way, and so Jen Psaki is one of these parents who wants your kid, if you live in Virginia… I know a lot of you don’t live in Virginia; most of you don’t. But if you do live in Virginia, she wants your kids to have to wear an N95 mask now in school. That’s where we are, Clay. It’s gotten pretty insane.

CLAY: Well, and, again, the science doesn’t support it in any way. I think we need to talk about that a bit more because Jen Psaki has tried to lean on her fact of being a parent as evidence of why everybody should have to make the same choice that she makes. Why is that true at all? I think we need to continue to emphasize the fact that this is not a parental mandate that you can’t wear a mask. If you’re terrified, have your kid wear a mask. If you’re not, you shouldn’t be forcing it.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: We wanted to play this cut too, because there’s a lot of discussion about how exactly the Republican Party in 2022 should balance their relationship with Donald Trump. Maybe we get into at the top of the next hour, Buck, the discussion. They’re trying to create some conflict, the media is, between Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, and Donald Trump, who also is in Florida right now. I’ll talk about why I think that’s going on. We can discuss that at the top of the second hour. But first Glenn Youngkin talked about keeping Trump, while allusion embracing his policies. “The great big bear hug,” he said. Listen to this.

YOUNGKIN: What we did in Virginia over the last year was give everyone a great big bear hug. We, in fact, embraced all Virginians. And I’ve said before that I so deeply appreciated President Trump’s support. We brought together a coalition of folks that had never been in the room together, forever Trumpers and Never Trumpers, moderates, Democrats. We campaigned places that Republicans have historically not campaigned, and that resulted in record vote letters in all minority communities. What we demonstrated is that this is about bringing people together.

CLAY: I think it’s a fantastic answer, Buck, for everybody out there — Republican politicians — that’s being asked, because they’re gonna keep saying January 6th and the 2020 election, keep trying to drag you into the past at 2022 gets closer and closer, I think Glenn Youngkin nailed it and showed every Republican statewide but also congressional candidate how you embrace what Donald Trump represents while simultaneously trying to go out in your individual districts or states and grow the overall brand of the Republican Party.

BUCK: I also think, Clay, that as we look forward not only to the midterm elections, but to the presidential election a few years from now, the best thing that a lot of these Republicans can do that are governors is show how much better governance is in states like Florida and now in Virginia than what you’ve seen in the blue, locked-down madness epicenters out there, right?

New York and California have been miserable, psychotic, neurotic places to live for going on two years now. Florida, Texas, Tennessee, and now Virginia are going to be places that people can look at and say, “Hold on a second. There was a better way.” That governance… As you said, elections matter. It is the best thing or the most memorable thing I think Obama ever said, “Elections have consequences.” They do, and they are gonna have real consequences in the state of Virginia as well.

And I think look that he doesn’t waste any time, Youngkin isn’t wasting any time. He comes right in — just like DeSantis did, by the way — and starts going right after the issues that he ran on and is holding the line on it so far. So it’s early, but all indicators are good. You know, there’s some movement from the attorney general of the state of Virginia that I wanted to get to.

CLAY: Yeah, it’s fantastic. I love that they were lined up and ready to go as soon as they took office to deliver on the promises that they made to people all over Virginia. It was a monster win. But sometimes people win, and they don’t actually follow through — as all of us out there listening know — on much of what they promise. That’s one of the big issues with politicians today is that trust factor. Glenn Youngkin immediately delivered, and so did his attorney general and his lieutenant governor.

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Warriors Owner: Nobody Cares About China’s Uyghur Genocide

17 Jan 2022

BUCK: Clay wants to talk about this story of an owner for the Golden State Warriors. I was just gonna give you all a little bit of an update on what happened here. We can discuss how wokeness apparently has its limits at our borders or even just basic concern for human rights and human dignity somehow in corporate America can stop the moment that the bottom line is affected by China. So Golden State Warriors owner, Chamath Palihapitiya… Is that it? That’s a tough one. Is that right?

CLAY: I do not know the correct pronunciation there so I’m glad you handled it as opposed to me.

BUCK: Palihapitiya. All right. I’ll go with that. He’s a billionaire investor and he — in his All-In Podcast — said that the Joe Biden signing of the Uyghur forced labor prevention act is not something that he really cared about. In fact, he declared, nobody cares about China’s treatment of the Uyghurs. I believe we have the actual audio. Let’s hear it.

BUCK: So, Clay, just a lot of things here. First of all, I think that it’s fascinating to watch people in corporate America — who I’m sure would bend the knee to BLM in a heartbeat and profess their undying love for every aspect of the movement and act like they really care about the plight of minorities dealing with police and inner city America, et cetera. But when it comes to China there’s a lot of money at stake so, “Nobody cares,” to quote our friend here “about the Uyghurs.” Wow.

CLAY: Look, first of all, I encourage honesty, okay? So what is saying is the quiet part out loud, which is his statement there is representative of what the NBA actually thinks too. Now, they may do a dog and pony show where they come around and say, “Oh, we desperately care about genocide.” Did you know, Buck, that Chinese — and I don’t think a lot of people do know this. There are a couple of different Chinese sneaker companies.

There was a big discussion about the fact that the Uyghurs who are — let’s make no mistake about it — having genocide committed against them by the Chinese government. They are a Muslim minority group that the Chinese basically are seeking to wipe off the planet in many ways based on their genocidal treatment. They also have cotton there. They are using Uyghur slave labor to pick cotton!

When it became an issue, many different companies came out and said, “We’re gonna make sure that we aren’t using any.” By the way, it’s the twenty-first century. “We’re gonna make sure that we aren’t using slave labor cotton in our products.” These two Chinese sneaker companies said the opposite. Buck, they said, “We are going to make sure that we are using Chinese Uyghur slave labor cotton in our tennis shoes.”

The NBA has multiple players that are endorsing those sneakers. They are — while claiming to be a social justice warrior organization — allowing slave-labor-produced shoes to be worn in their games and for players to directly profit as slave owners did generations ago in the United States and around the world. We are still allowing these players to profit off of slave labor.

So what this part-owner — he’s not the official head owner, part-owner — of the Golden State Warriors is saying is the quiet part out loud, which is, “The NBA doesn’t care at all about slave labor in China or genocide,” and, by the way, Buck, they cared immensely if a team would deign to go to the White House when Donald Trump was president.

But when it comes to actual genocide — and this goes back to my point about people who lecture you all the time about being on the right side of history. I could be wrong here, but most of the time being on the side of genocide is the wrong side of history.

BUCK: I think you could even say a hundred percent, a hundred percent of the time.

CLAY: A little bit of sarcasm there. But, yes, you’re usually there. People love to believe that they’re on the right side of history. Being opposed to genocide should be a relatively easy — In basketball parlance, it should be a — layup for anybody to be like, “Hey, you know, I’m opposed to genocide.” So the right and wrong side of history, honestly, the NBA is going to be on the wrong side of history as it pertains to Chinese genocide.

This owner is coming out and saying the quiet part out loud, which is effectively what NBA policy is. Now, Buck, if we had a real sports media that was honest, they would start holding players and coaches and owners accountable for this, and they would say, “Hey, do you agree that genocide is beneath your level of caring or not?” Nobody’s even gonna follow up on this, probably, because they all carry the water of the NBA.

BUCK: What kind of actual monetary…? When you look at the connections in China… We’re talking about what level of money that the NBA is getting from being able to air the games. Do we have some sense of that?

CLAY: It’s billions of dollars. Not every year. Not every year a billion dollars, but it’s a multibillion-dollar year that they have signed contracts that they have signed. And honestly, it’s probably a billion or more a year if you start factoring in product with NBA logos on it and everything else, the overall impact. I mean, There are more people… Here’s a way to put it, Buck. There were more people — prior to this Daryl Morey thing blowing up — watching the NBA in China than watched the NBA in the United States.

BUCK: I think that’s the context that we need here, to give folks a sense of how important it is for access to that market, because for some companies if you look at their bottom line — some U.S.-based companies — having access to the Chinese market in one form or another is something that they’re just not willing to do without, and it’s particularly true of entertainment media these days.

CLAY: Oh, no doubt.

BUCK: It’s true of Hollywood and the big budget movies. They make so many of these brainless so-called blockbuster movies that if you want anything that is decent writing with a story worth watching, you’re not gonna like it, but it dubs really well when they put ’em in the Chinese market and they’ll make political concessions — which is even big problem — to the Chinese market on a regular basis. And obviously the NBA, the same situation.

For all the challenges we had with the Soviets on a military and political level, they never had the kind of entanglements with the absolute financial and corporate elites in this country that we do now with the Chinese Communist Party. It’s a much deeper and bigger challenge over the long term than I think most folks have realized.

CLAY: Here’s a good example of that. When’s the last time there’s been a bad guy from China in an American movie? Compare that with how often the Russian is still the bad guy. Just think about it in a James Bond movie. Think about it in the context of any sort of international movie of intrigue. There is ever a Chinese bad guy. In your head, think about it. Oh, my God. When has there ever been a bad guy coming out of China? Every single international intrigue movie — the Bourne movies, the James Bond movies, whatever they are –almost always there’s some eastern European bad guy.

BUCK: You remember with Red Dawn which I think they changed it, originally it was the Soviets and the Cubans, right? And then they redid it with North Korea when they did the redo of it?

CLAY: I didn’t see the remake.

BUCK: I didn’t see the remake. So I’m not sure exactly. But that was North Korea, not China?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Was that China is in the remake? I’m trying to think of the time.

CLAY: I don’t think it was Chinese bad guy.

BUCK: I know that there was that James Bond movie where there was the Chinese agent involved, but the bad guy was actually the British guy who used to do the Infiniti commercials, remember him from back in the day?

CLAY: I love Top Gun. I bet you love Top Gun. I bet anybody with a functional brain that listens to this show liked Top Gun. They’re doing the remake of Top Gun, right? Not the remake, but the sequel. On Tom Cruise’s letter jacket in the 1980s version, there was a symbol for Taiwan on it. They scrubbed out the Taiwanese symbol from Tom Cruise’s leather jacket for the remake of Top Gun.

BUCK: Yep. This is the kind of stuff that at a very high level in this country is already happening. So you can imagine as we get into more direct conflict with China about their desire to expand their hegemony to a truly global, truly global reach. You’re not gonna be able to trust the elites in your own country to stand up for America. That’s really what we’re heading for.

CLAY: No doubt!

BUCK: This is why this Golden State Warrior owner who’s made a ton of money — he’s a billionaire investor. He probably invested in a bunch of tech companies or something, and now we’re all supposed to think he’s a genius. Patriotism is supposed to matter too. If you’re a billionaire in America, you should think of yourself as an American billionaire. That’s actually the way you should view things.

CLAY: Not only that, again, what’s the point of having FU money if you’re not willing to say FU? I don’t understand these billionaires who continue to bow down to China. You’ve got a billion dollars! Stand up for American exceptionalism and American values. If you won’t do it when you’re a billionaire, when will you ever do it? It’s embarrassing.

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With Dems on Run, Media Tries to Create Trump-DeSantis Rift

17 Jan 2022

CLAY: I want to talk about this story because of the significance of it, but also because it seems quite clear to me that Democrats are on the run. They were supposed today, Buck — this was the deadline that Chuck Schumer put in place — to vote on the voting rights bill as well as a modification of the filibuster in the Senate. They certainly now have scrapped that deadline.

At some point this week, the voting rights changes that the Democrats wanted to put in place as well as their filibuster places will go up in smoke because two Democratic senators have said “no” to the idea of changing the filibuster — Senator Manchin from West Virginia and Senator Sinema of Arizona. And, as you look at the data points…

We talked some about it with Glenn Youngkin being inaugurated, and that is a very visible representation of how things are moving rapidly against the Democratic Party. Joe Biden: 33% approval rating in the most recent Quinnipiac poll; the biggest advantage that Gallup has on record right now for the Republican Party, a five-point advantage in terms of the national mood. The biggest advantage that the Republican Party has had since 1994-ish when obviously the big win, the landslide election against Bill Clinton in the midterm in 1994, Republicans get swept in to the House of Representatives.

That is where we are looking right now as we move towards the midterms in 2022. The Democrats see all this. That bright, shining light that they are seeing out in front of them, it is not the Pearly Gates. It’s not a positive thing. It is a train, and it is going to flatten them. And so, Buck, what is the way to combat this, is to try to seed internal division with Republicans, and the best way to do that is to go after two of the top Republican hierarchy right now both down in the state of Florida.

As we speak the headline at the Washington Post: “Who is King of Florida? Tensions Rise Between Trump and DeSantis Over What DeSantis Might or Might Not Do in 2024.” But ultimately, this is about trying to create a side story from the failures that are going on right now in the Democratic Party the greatest solution, I think, really, Buck, is if Trump were to… First of all, DeSantis has to win reelection in 2022 as governor, which I think he will.

And if Trump then decided immediately to say, “Hey, I want Ron DeSantis to be my vice presidential running mate,” I think that probably would be a union that many people out there right now listening to us would enjoy, then DeSantis will have to decide, “Hey, do I want to run against Trump in 2024?” But that’s a long way into the future. Right now, they’re trying to use it as a distraction for the upcoming midterms.

BUCK: Yeah. There’s just no upside here, and we all understand the people that are trying to manipulate the conversation in order to create a rift in the Republican Party. There’s no upside in getting into a DeSantis-versus-Trump situation. Look, they both bring a lot to the political table. I still think that it’s likely that if Trump decides to run again, he’ll be the nominee and the party will rally behind him. Trump is also at an age where that’s a real consideration for him.

And two years, when you’re in your mid-seventies, is very different from two years when you are in your fifties or you’re in your sixties. So we’ll see where he is, and in many ways one of the best possible outcomes here could be if Trump decides on his own that he wants the MAGA machine, if you will, to anoint a new leader in a sense, and that would be Ron DeSantis, and have the full backing of Trump and all that he brings to bear with Ron DeSantis, who obviously he’s about…

I think he’s actually your age, Clay. He’s a few years older than me. I think he’s 42, 43. He’s young for someone to even be talked about as a president, young for a governor, and so I think that’s how this plays out. And everyone should be careful playing into the left’s hands here because what they would want to see it. You know, Trump is like a grizzly bear. Even if you win a wrestling match with a grizzly bear, you’re gonna be really cut up — and maybe, you know, make it a few days later.

You would you not want Ron DeSantis and Trump going against each other. We want them fighting against the commie apparatus, and they’re gonna do everything they can to try to create this divide-and-conquer strategy in Florida. So I just think that conservatives should be on guard against it. Everyone should understand that there’s no good… It’s not like they’re trying to help us clarify the future of the GOP.

There’s no good intention here when the New York Times writes about this. They’re trying to poke Trump. They’re hoping that they can create a perception that Trump is being unseated by the DeSantis folks in some way as the heir apparent or whatever that may be. And we just sit here, and there’s no need. There’s no need for that. If Trump says, “I’m gonna run again,” I think the party unites behind him. If the former president decides that it’s time to anoint a successor, that would be great too.

CLAY: I also think DeSantis has to be super, super smart in not allowing himself to get dragged into something other than the governor race going on in November. Because it’s easy, I understand, for the media to get focused on something beyond running for the governor of Florida because, candidly, I think that most in the media are recognizing that DeSantis is going to win relatively easily.

I know how combative elections are in Florida and how even they are, but I think Ron DeSantis gonna win by — this is my prediction — a couple hundred thousand votes minimum in the state of Florida. He won, I believe, by around 30,000 or 40,000 votes, 50,000, something low. I think it was 30,000 or 40,000 in that massive knock-down-drag-out race —

BUCK: — to Andrew Gillum which, by the way, good heavens. I mean, the fact that that race was as close as it was is stunning, when you think about it.

CLAY: No doubt, and imagine this is one of those things where it’s really difficult to even contemplate, but what would the United States of America look like if Andrew Gillum wins that election and is the governor of Florida when covid starts? I’m not kidding about this, Buck. I think Andrew Gillum would have locked down Florida like New York and California were locked down.

And people could say, “Well, there still would have been other states that would have potentially looked at the data and looked at the science and tried to stay open.” I think it’s hard to understate the amount of shrapnel that Ron DeSantis took as the tip of the spear, being willing to look at all of the data and say, “Florida is staying open” in a state that is relatively even, right, in terms of Democrats and Republicans in that state.

So, so many other governors and other political figures, when they saw that DeSantis was taking the stand that he was taking — and I think, by the way, one reason that he was willing to take the stand, this guy’s really smart, okay? I mean, he went to Yale, and then he went to Harvard Law School, and he trusts his ability to look at the data and actually make decisions.

Whereas I think a lot of politicians are not as confident in their own intellect and they’re not going to look at the data themselves and make rational the discussions. Buck, I would even say this about you and me. One reason why we’ve been comfortable looking at the data and having opinions about covid like we have is because we trust our ability to analyze that data. I think there’s a lot of people in media who just look to see which way the wind is blowing, and they follow those trend lines, right? And I think that happens in politics in a big way too.

BUCK: Yeah. I was briefing the president in the Oval Office for the first time when I was 27 because I was pretty good at analyzing data. You’ve built a media empire because you’re pretty good at analyzing data. So when people like Jen Psaki get all snarky with us, you’re gonna say to yourself, “Uh, I think we can handle assessing what’s working and what’s not.”

When you can see it as clearly as you do — whether it’s about, you know, school masking or any number of issues. But DeSantis I think deserves a lot of credit because, remember, it wasn’t as easy in the early days. They were suggesting he was literally murdering people is what the narrative was from the left. It wasn’t he has a different approach or he’s not being as cautious as he should be. They were called him “DeathSantis,” and I will say, one area, the first 60 days the pandemic, you know, it was a different.

We didn’t know, and there was a lot, but I think that, you know, that Fauci should have been fired, and I think that there are areas where the Trump administration also got a bit distracted because of the rise of BLM and all that which was happening in the summer of 2020 where people forget this now.

CLAY: Chaotic.

BUCK: You had these two major issues rolled together that the administration was dealing with at the same time, and I believe right now that the most important thing, as I’ve said, is Republican states show that — and it shows through the data but also where people are voting with their feet, where people are moving… You brought up how Florida will be a place that Ron DeSantis wins by more votes. I think in part that will be driven by friends of mine, my own brothers.

My one brother is a permanent Florida resident, and the other one is thinking he’ll be trying to think make that happen and working through logistics of it. But my own family members are now Florida residents — or a family member, I should say, the Florida resident. He’s gonna be casting his vote for Ron DeSantis, and there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of people just like him because the decisions that were made had consequences. We saw the results, and ultimately everybody should be reminded of this too. DeSantisism… We talk about Fauci-ism. DeSantisism was right.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Fauciism was wrong, and they will never accept this and they will never admit this because of the immediate threat that it poses to their power, the immediate realities of what that would do.

CLAY: There’s no doubt, Buck, and I would say this. You were talking about the early days of the pandemic. I went down to Florida with my family in early May, and there was literally a lawyer down there walking around dressed as the Grim Reaper on the beach getting tons of media attention — you may remember this — criticizing DeSantis to the high leavens for opening the beach back up.

Buck, the outdoor beach where you could sit in the sunshine may be the safest place that you could possibly have been during covid. Probably sitting at the beach, nice little breeze going on with as much vitamin D as you can possibly get. There was a guy walking around dressed as the Grim Reaper, and the media was covering him as if was he a savant.

BUCK: Unbelievable.

CLAY: That’s where we were.

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Shock Poll: What Dem Voters Want to Do to the Unvaxxed

17 Jan 2022

BUCK: I have to tell you right now, I think that the Fauciite apparatus is almost more terrifying than ever in some ways, even as the information comes out to show that they were wrong yet again about stopping the spread, even as they’re now admitting — they are admitting, so they can try to ding me on social media for misinformation. They’re admitting that cloth masks are “ineffective.”

They won’t say, “They don’t work at all,” but it doesn’t work. It’s not going to protect you from Omicron, okay? They admit this. So they can keep trying to — and when enough Democrats in prominent positions say it, you’d think they’d have to actually accept that this has been a reality we’re dealing with. And here just to point this out is Dr. Fauci… Clay, I wanted to break this down for a second before we get into this polling from Rasmussen who’s talking about disinformation. And what does that even mean in the era in which we are of covid?

FAUCI: I believe the entire world is facing — but we certainly are facing it in a very, very disconcerting way in the United States is the amount of disinformation that is accompanying what should be a problem where everyone pulls together against a common enemy, which is the virus. We have disinformation that is entirely destructive to a comprehensive public health endeavor.

BUCK: What is he talking about, Clay?

CLAY: It’s a fantastic question ’cause as I’m listening to that — and that’s the first time I’ve heard this clip. I’m sitting there trying to say, “What is the disinformation?” It seems to me, Buck, that every bit-of-disinformation almost exclusively have come from Fauci and the CDC. What is…? I mean this honestly: What is the equivalent in disinformation of the fact that they told us that initially the vaccines would prevent anyone who got the vaccine from getting or spreading covid?

That’s not true. They told us, as you just pointed out, that cloth masks work, that your kids were gonna be in danger if they weren’t in masks. They told us that six feet mattered even though six feet doesn’t matter. I run through everything that the CDC and Dr. Fauci has beaten the drum on, and almost all of it has been rejected, including the likelihood of where this virus initially emerged. What disinformation? I mean this honestly, Buck.

I can’t even contemplate what he might be referencing that is actually disinformation that is hindering the overall rates of vaccination. Remember, Buck, 86% of people 18 and up have gotten at least one shot of the covid vaccine, 95% of people 65 and up. Those are overwhelming high numbers. The biggest fallacy, the biggest disinformation of all is the idea that if everybody was vaccinated covid would go away. Almost everybody had been vaccinated, and covid hasn’t gone anywhere. It’s actually higher than it’s ever been.

BUCK: You know, Clay, in the Soviet era, they had term. The Soviet members of not just the Politburo but the entire apparatus, they refer to somebody as a counterrevolutionary because the revolution was the whole heart of the Soviet project. So if you were called a counterrevolutionary, it didn’t matter if you had done anything. You were just a bad person.

This is how I think the Fauciites deploy misinformation and the unvaccinated, right? There’s all this misinformation out there, and the bad guys and gals are the unvaccinated, and he never really engages with the arguments. What’s going to happen now that Glenn Youngkin has gotten rid of the mask mandate in Virginia, and what has happened in Florida with Ron DeSantis not allowing a mask mandate to be in place?

Everything is fine. But they never change. They never have to actually grapple with this. They make up bullcrap studies to try to justify their madness, and to give someone a sense of the madness the otherizing that the Fauciites — and really Fauciism, which is now a religion, I think, for a lot of people, are willing to engage in — here are some stats. This is from a Rasmussen poll came out just a couple days ago. Clay, check this out: 59% of Democrats would support requiring home lockdown for those who won’t get a vaccine. Okay. This is China stuff. Yeah, and maybe we have to, what, like the Salt Lake Tribune?

CLAY: I’m gonna get to that in a minute. But, Buck, think about that. That’s 60% of people, just about, who are Democrats would support me being locked in my house because, even though I’ve already had covid twice and recovered from Omicron, because I won’t get a covid vaccine. That’s scary.

BUCK: It gets worse. If you are unvaccinated, 55% of Democrats want to fine you — as we said — 59% want to lock you in your home; 48% want you fined or imprisoned for questioning vaccine efficacy’ 45% want to force you into, quote, “designated facilities;” 46% want you digitally tracked — and this is one that I think is gonna real fire people up — 29% want to have the state take the children of the unvaccinated until they’re willing to get vaccinated “for safety reasons.” These people are out of their minds. It’s disgusting, and Anthony Fauci and all of his supporters and all of his little enablers are to blame for this mass hysteria.

CLAY: All of those things should be directly asked of Dr. Fauci. Right? Buck, this is one of the things that’s so frustrating about the fact that we supposedly have this fourth estate of media that are gonna hold people in positions of power accountable. Dr. Fauci should be directly asked. He should be shared those data points which is from a Rasmussen poll, right, Buck, of Democrats?

BUCK: Yep.

CLAY: Every single one of those data points that you just shared with our audience, Dr. Fauci should be directly asked. “Dr. Fauci, do you believe that people who are unvaccinated should be locked up in their house as nearly 60% of Democrats believe?” and all the way down to the 29% that believe that the children of the unvaccinated should be taken. And, by the way, if you think that sounds outlandish, there are battles right now in Canada — have you seen these stories, Buck — about parents who are unvaccinated not being able to see their children, not being able to interact with them?

Again, Fauci talks about misinformation. Why do those people believe what you just read, Buck? It’s because they believe Joe Biden when he says that we have a pandemic of the unvaccinated. I actually feel sorry for the Democratic voters here and the people who are being polled because, first of all, I can’t imagine living with the fear that they must have lived with. But they have created in their minds, based on what their leadership has told them, the idea — the idea — that if we had 100% vaccination rate, covid would be gone right now.

And, by the way, if you think this is some small percentage of people, this is what Justice Sotomayor and what Justice Breyer — based on their questions, and probably Elena Kagan as well — believe. This is why, Buck, I’ve kept sharing all that data on the NBA, the NFL, and the NHL, because all of those leagues are almost 100% vaccinated, and they’re all setting records for covid right now. Young, healthy male athletes who have virtually zero risk from covid.

They’re all vaccinated, setting all-time records for the number of infections. So Fauci — talking about misinformation, Buck? The biggest misinformation of all is the idea that if everybody had gotten this covid vaccine, that covid would have gone away and that the people who are unvaccinated are the only people who were keeping us from being back to normal, that’s a hundred-billion percent not true.

BUCK: Here we are with over 200 million people vaccinated in America, and as of January 16th, yesterday, 801,000 new cases, 1,964 deaths on average, and the 14-day change is up almost 100% for new cases. If this isn’t a massive failure of Fauciism, because remember what the promise was — and that was how they justified these overreaches. That’s how they justified them.

If you’re listening to this and you got fired from your job, it wasn’t for your safety. It was ’cause you were a risk to other people, they said, if you won’t get the vaccine. Oh, yeah, what happened here? How are we at almost 800,000 or 900,000, even a million cases a week ago when we’ve had all this vaccination that’s gone on?

CLAY: No doubt, Buck. And also remember Tuesday, I believe it was, Dr. Fauci said everyone’s going to get Omicron, and somehow that story didn’t really register with the vast majority of people. Maybe it didn’t register with them ’cause a lot of people in the media didn’t cover it. But, Buck, this is what I was saying last week, why it’s so integral for people to understand.

Everyone who is unvaccinated at this point — and I’m in this category — we’re primarily a risk to ourselves. I’ve had covid twice. If I die one day from covid, it’s my fault, right? Everybody can tap dance and say, “See, Clay Travis is dead ’cause he chose not to get the covid vaccine,” right? It’s highly unlikely based on having beaten covid twice that I’m gonna die of covid — or die with covid, we probably should say even.

But when everybody is going to get covid through the Omicron variant, which is what Dr. Fauci said, there’s no basis whatsoever to require vaccination because if everybody’s getting it. You can’t even argue anymore that the unvaccinated are spreading the virus widely. Everybody’s getting it, Buck. So how can you justify a mandate in any way? Particularly because, again — this didn’t get a lot of attention, either — the CEO of Pfizer, one of the companies that is making this vaccine, said his first two doses had limited, if any, effect on covid at all.

BUCK: Can I just…? Just for a second here, Clay: When you’re seeing that almost one-in-three Democrats would take away people’s children over this, what is wrong with these lunatics? Can you imagine? You’re gonna watch someone have their children taken from them because they won’t get a shot that is pretty crappy, as we all know, and that this is for a virus that has a 99.7% survival rate in the Delta phase, never mind what it is in Omicron.

There’s a deep emotional and psychological damage that people have suffered from believing all of this stuff, and I think they’ve lost a piece of their humanity in the process. They’re forgetting that we live in an imperfect world, stuff happens, and we have to go on living our lives, and you can’t control everything. And anyone who tells you they can is lying to you and just wants to control you.

CLAY: Also, this is where history makes you very humble, because you and I are both history nerds. I say that with affinity for other history nerds out there. History is so important to study because what it shows you is that humans are on constant cycles, and nothing ever happens for the first time, and what you see time after time, Buck, is the people who think and argue oftentimes the most aggressively that they are on the right side of history are oftentimes totally on the wrong side of history.

The idea of taking away your children, the idea of putting people in internment camps over covid? These are things that have happened throughout American history, and guess what? Everyone who has done them has ended up on the wrong side of history. Same thing with banning books, by the way, which is another thing. Banning ideas. Not allowing discourse. The First Amendment. All of the people who are trying to curtail debate, usually, you study history, end up on the wrong side of it.

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