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By Popular Demand: 5-Star Podcast Reviews

17 Dec 2021

CLAY: Let’s start here. Let’s see. Cry2A says, “Buck is the GOAT. I love when Buck breaks into his grandma voice when mocking the blue checks. I guess Clay is pretty cool, too. Kidding. They’re both awesome.” Jarhead2206 says, “Big mistake. My only complaint about the show, how can Clay with his man crush on Kevin Costner not mention Open Range as one of the best westerns? Probably one of the greatest western gunfights. So disappointed. Buck should have known as well. No pass given.”

BUCK: Jarhead’s got a point. He’s got a point.

CLAY: That’s a whiff by me. PublicEmery says, “More Fauci and Behar impersonations, please. They have me in stitches.” ChuckNeil says, “Gold DBAP unless you need to SPAP. Anything Clay touches is gold. If you don’t like this show, you probably wear a mask alone in your car.”

BUCK: Can we put that on a T-shirt? I love that.

CLAY: That is a great one. BannerDave says, “Buck is a bad electric motor scooter. Clay and Buck have done a really good job filling the void left by Rush. They’ve done the show there where focusing on current threats to American liberty and prosperity. Tip to Buck: Guys want to be bad motor scooters. No guy says, ‘I want to be a bad electric scooter.'”

BUCK: Oh. What?

CLAY: Guys should be…? Is there a difference between a motor and an electric scooter?

BUCK: I don’t know. Does he think that, like, Vespas are super-manly? You know, a Vespa is like you should be going around with a little espresso in your hand like, “ciao,” you know these things they drive in senility.

CLAY: Maybe well so. Duffy7477 says, “I absolutely love listening to these two, Buck broadcasting from the communist country of New York telling stories of absolute liberal insanity. Then there’s Clay living in the free country of Tennessee. The irony of listening to them discuss today’s topics living in the same country — but one lives under liberal insanity, the other in a free country — is hilarious. I love their discussions, and I think that there are a lot of stupid liberals in New York. I love when Buck takes shots at them.”

BUCK: So do I.

CLAY: That is well said, so you can go give us your own 5-star review. Dub reviews them. Buck and I are not making these choices.

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Brian Kilmeade on Liz Cheney’s Betrayal and More

17 Dec 2021

BUCK: We want to bring on someone you’re all quite familiar with, I’m sure, Brian Kilmeade. He is a Fox News host and author of The President and the Freedom Fighter: Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglass, and Their Battle to Save America’s Soul. Brian, great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us.

KILMEADE: I’m honored to be on your last show of the year.

BUCK: Yeah, man. It’s a good one and we’re happy to have such esteemed guests today. So, Brian, I want to start. We got a couple questions in the news world before we dive into the book, which I am hearing people love, so congrats on that. We have right now, New York City… You’re a New York guy like me. I think you’re a Long Island guy, born and raised, aren’t you? I know you live in the New York area.

KILMEADE: Yes.

BUCK: You’re seeing what’s going on here. We were promised something that feels very different for this wintertime. What do you make of it, given that the covid surge is hittin’ pretty hard?

KILMEADE: Well, put it this way. We’ve already been educated and stop taking care of us. We get it. I already saw how it works. We’ve been to Florida, been to Tennessee. I understand. We understand how to keep ourselves safe. We know the risk. We know if we have an underlying condition — I know if I’m overweight, I know if I’m an older person — that I have to worry about certain things.

I got it. I really have a huge problem with the way, the abrasive way in which the president attacking this, the mandate, the all-or-nothing attitude — and Anthony Fauci all over the place again with this variant, we hear about that variant. The scary thing is, they kept saying it looks like it’s impervious to the vaccine. Okay. Now we say not only is it not impervious to the vaccine, we think you gotta get a booster. Really? For a vaccine that wasn’t supposed to work? Didn’t the South Africans tell us it didn’t work against the vaccine? So, you feel like they’re just winging it.

CLAY: I think there’s a lot of truth to that, Brian. This is Clay. Appreciated you coming on this show. I’ve done your shows for a while now, Fox & Friends among others, and I saw on Tucker. I know you’ve been in the news this week. I’m sure it was interesting for you to see suddenly that Liz Cheney is reading text messages that you sent a year ago. And as soon as I saw it, I said, “Man. People are gonna attack this,” but I actually think this is good because it shows that Brian’s being consistent.

And I can’t believe this didn’t get more attention. In the same way that Buck and I said, “Hey, if you’re rioting, looting, pillaging in any way for any political cause, you should be prosecuted,” and what I was impressed by is Fox News prognosticators had consistent positions no matter what the political motivation was.

KILMEADE: Yeah.

CLAY: What’s it been like to kind of be through the car wash with your text messages coming out, and what did you think about the media coverage surrounding that?

KILMEADE: Well, you’re right. I don’t expect you to know where I stood on this. I barely remember where everyone else stood, but I just know that CNN runs January 6 every day, 50 minutes of every hour.

CLAY: No doubt.

KILMEADE: And I would say this. I’m watching this unfold. One thing I said to Pete Hegseth as we were saying good-bye to him, he was covering rallying, and I said, “Pete, where are they going?” He goes, “They go to the Capitol,” and I said, “That’s not gonna be good.” I didn’t know. I ran up. I had six minutes to go do my radio show. So, I run up there and I’m putting the sound up in the breaks like you guys probably do when you see news break or a story break while you’re doing the show.

Now, at least one of you can split up and probably get to it. But I have cuts on January 6th. “There’s nothing patriotic about taking down the American flag and putting on the Trump flag. If you are sitting in Nancy Pelosi’s office with your face exposed, expect to be arrested. There’s nothing good about this.” At the same time, I care about the country. I’m saying to myself, “Do they not realize at the White House what’s going on?” So I had Mark Meadows’ cell, and I texted him and I texted Kayleigh and I texted Marc Short.

I want to know. Number one for my show I want to know what’s going on. Number two, I want it to stop. I don’t want… I do not want to see our Capitol raided. I don’t want to see our stuff destroyed. I don’t want to see cops abused — and, yeah, was there possibly people on the inside? Was there a Donnie Brasco infiltration inside the Proud Boys? Perhaps.

More than likely, yes. The FBI does undercover work. So does the NYPD. So does every police force listening to me. They get in plainclothes and they’re infiltrate. I got it. But there’s no excuse for it, and I thought that was consistent. And if I could play a role in stopping it, I would do it. If I was there, I would have went out of my way to stop it.

CLAY: Brian, I thought it blew up on Liz Cheney because I think she thought she was gonna embarrass Fox News, Laura Ingraham, Donald Trump Jr., Sean Hannity. I thought Tucker said it really well on his show, which is all this showed is that in private Fox News employees found pretty much the same as they do in public, which is to me the true test of authenticity.

KILMEADE: Yeah. Guys, I text Liz Cheney. I’m friendly with Liz Cheney. I have nothing against Liz Cheney. She was a contributor here. I’ve known her since her dad was vice president. I’m not saying we’re hanging out. But she’s a true conservative who I thought was able to understand that Trump was different and that you gotta take the good with the bad, speak up when you want to. But for the most part, you see what life is like without him.

That’s the alternative. Look at the hell we’re in right now by incompetent people with their own agenda who could care less about this country. They just just want to green it out and they want to socialize it out. That’s the alternative. He was the only guy that could have won, and my feeling is… I went back and forth with Liz Cheney the whole time. So I was surprised that she would… I shouldn’t be. I’m naive. I was surprised that she would go out of her way to blind side me without even saying, “Listen, Mark Meadows handed over stuff with your names on it,” but I guess I’m naive on that.

BUCK: Once you betray your own side, unfortunately, Brian, betraying individuals on that side becomes a whole lot easier. So you are being very kind to Liz Cheney.

KILMEADE: You must be laughing.

BUCK: I feel a little… I don’t have a relationship with her. I don’t think we’re going to anytime soon. But I appreciate your loyalty to somebody that you know personally, ’cause I feel the same. I always tell Clay this: I do not attack my friends on air and I tell everybody that if someone’s a friend I’m up front about it. We’re speaking to Brian Kilmeade, Fox News host, author of The President and the Freedom Fighter: Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglass, and Their Battle to Save America’s Soul.

Brian, people love the book. I’ve gotten folks ask me to have you on just to talk about the book. Can you tell us a bit about that right now? Look, we’re going to the holiday season, people looking for gifts, they’re also looking for things to read on their own to, you know, sit back relax and dive into history. Why this story? Why do folks need to know?

KILMEADE: Well, number one, you know, sometimes if you have a book that just doesn’t fit with the format, if I was doing a sports book outside… I know, Clay, you love sports especially. I would feel kind of bad coming on. But this is right out of the news. I mean, if you want to talk about what’s wrong with CRT and why the 1619 Project should be on the fiction side?

What if I told you exactly what Frederick Douglass lived through, what he overcame, the abolitionists he combined with, and Lincoln, the abject poverty kid who had one year total formal education? He was able to overcome it all and rise up in the most inexplicable form you’d almost think it’s fiction. But I was able to look at every speech that Lincoln gave, everything that he wrote.

Frederick Douglass had a newspaper, the North Star and wrote for The Liberator, another abolitionist newspaper. He wrote his biography seven years after fleeing for freedom. So I was able to put me right back into the 1840s 1850s, and the backdrop is the Civil War. So if you want to find out America’s original sin, I don’t duck it. Nobody should. Slavery is terrible.

There’s no redeeming qualities. We also didn’t have the market cornered on. It every continent had it. We fought a war to get rid of it. Reconstruction was uneven. So through their eyes, through their words, through the imperfect nature of America at the time, it was America was not living up to its Constitution. It didn’t have to be torn apart. It had to live up to the ideals that it wrote down.

And that’s what you see. You also see two people without any connections come out of nowhere to rise up at exactly the right time with exactly right character to bring us through the toughest times. Now, listen Frederick Douglass was going at it with Lincoln. Lincoln didn’t return fire. We don’t really know what Lincoln thought of Douglass. When Douglass found his way to the White House, he waited in line five minutes before Lincoln summoned him and a friendship took root.

BUCK: Brian, I am a huge history nerd. Buck is too, and I know you are as well in terms of all the great books that you’ve been putting out there. In times of national crisis, I find history to be much more compelling oftentimes than the current events. Let me explain why and I’m curious if you agree.

Because if you study history, you can recognize that we have been through as a nation and certainly as a world far more difficult and challenging times than whatever may be going on in the present. And many times, we lose perspectives in the day-to-day battles that we fight. Does that help you as you write these history books to have a longer-scale version of the historical context and to have better perspective as a result?

KILMEADE: Well, to both of you, how many times have people say we’ve never been more polarized? How many times have people told you we’re pulling apart at the seams? And I’m saying to myself, “Get a perspective.” The reason why you want to take these men and women and — you know, people critical of Susan B. Anthony and others — you want to take these men down off their pedestals ’cause you have no perspective of the time in which they live.

You cannot put them in the same ideals in 2021 that they lived in 1776, 1783, and in this case 1860. So, Lincoln made some statements today we would find racist because he did not think the races were equal. By the time he evolved at 56 years old, I really… Driven by his actions he’d be hard praised to make an argument that he did not think they were equal. He grew up in a time in which they told him that! We live differently the education was not the same.

But guys like Benjamin Franklin, the genius, Benjamin Franklin, had slaves. He was the smartest man on the planet at the time. He evolved to become an abolitionist. That’s called growing up. What did people listening to me right now…? If you’re listening to me and you’re 50 or 60, do you really think you have a better moral compass now than you did in your twenties or your teens? Of course. What’s the difference between these historic figures? Understand where this country was, the time in which they lived, and then you’ll understand why they’re on a pedestal and they mean so much to our country.

BUCK: Brian Kilmeade of Fox News. Check out his book The President and the Freedom Firefighter: Abraham Lincoln Frederick Douglass, and Their Battle to Save America’s Soul. Brian, our buddy. Thanks for being with us man I appreciate it.

KILMEADE: Congratulations on your success, man. Enjoy Christmas.

BUCK: And Merry Christmas to you, Brian. Thanks so much.

CLAY: Merry Christmas to you and your family.

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A Review of Insane CNN Clips

17 Dec 2021

CLAY: CNN has continued to go further and further down the emotional slope of insanity.

BUCK: Do you think they have, like, fliers with your photo on them somewhere over there like, you know, if you’ve got a shoplifter sometimes they’ll put them up, you know, ’cause you’re banned from the building.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Do you think there’s like a “be on the lookout” with Clay Travis? There might be for me too, by the way, ever since I left that place.

CLAY: Buck, I question whether they’ve told anybody at CNN not to in any way interact with me because I light CNN up quite a bit, and no one will even step to me on the — on the Twitter or social media streets and take aim at anything that I say. I feel like not only have they banned me from the network, they’ve banned their talent from in any way interacting with me.

That’s a shame because I think they have a lot of dumb people at CNN, and I think both you and I would run circles around them if they regularly stepped to us, but they don’t, and so instead we’ve got all different sorts of insanity that our friends and compadres… By the way, thanks so much as we finish up on the 2021 year for so many people that are incredibly talented and work on this show. But which CNN insanity should we hit people with here? I think probably 13 where the doctor says wear your mask at Christmas with your family no matter what. I mean, this is pretty ridiculous.

BUCK: Oh, okay.

WILLIAM SCHAFFNER: I would recommend that we hang on our stockings with care. I think we have to be careful. If we’re all going to get together, we should all be vaccinated and preferentially (sic) boosted. We should wear our masks if we’re uncertain. And another thing we can do is, we could all get tested the morning of our getting together! We did that at our house over the Thanksgiving because we had a member who had a very serious condition that put them at risk of very severe disease should they get infected. We were all negative. It worked out just fine.

BUCK: ‘Twas the Night Before Christmas, Clay, and all through the house there were tests for everyone, even the mouse. This is insane. This is insane.

CLAY: If you are having your kids wear masks while they open Christmas presents inside of your house, just go ahead and commit yourself to an insane asylum. You are beyond redemption.

BUCK: The most important thing for everyone out there who’s like… I went into a grocery store yesterday here right in Midtown; everyone was masked. I did not… I practice what I preach. I have one in my pocket ’cause I had to get milk — you gotta do what you gotta do — but I didn’t put it on. No one said anything to me, but I do think the way to handle this now is anytime someone says can you put your mask on be like, “Oh, sure, I forgot, but I’m going to double mask. Why aren’t you double masked? Don’t you take the virus seriously?” And see the gears in their brain come to a screeching halt all of a sudden, ’cause they’ll remember it was almost exactly 12 months ago that little Fauch was running around with the two masks. He’s the worst.

CLAY: I always like to say whenever someone tells me to wear a mask, if I feel like they’re being particularly… First of all, if they work at a business, I’m gonna put it on. But I always like to say something like, “I’ve already had covid eight times. You don’t have to worry about me.” Maybe I have had covid eight times but just the reaction like, “Oh, my God. You’re still alive and you’ve had covid eight times”? Yeah. Probably 25.

BUCK: Good that I got covid personally and got through it, ’cause that whole J&J shot’s not exactly bulletproof.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: Clay picked a different CNN clip to make fun of. Man.

CLAY: There are so many.

BUCK: If CNN didn’t exist, I feel like we’d have to make it up just because it would be so entertaining.

CLAY: Well, Joy Reid is somehow worse than anybody at CNN, too, so we’d still have MSNBC, but they’re a good combo.

BUCK: She’s just saying, like, she’s the superstar of lib insanity. But as a network, I think CNN is more fun to make fun of. But here you go. They have positive spin on the economy. It’s almost like they got an email from, I don’t know, Jeff Zucker or something telling them they all have to take this line.

DON LEMON: This is good news. Gas prices are heading south here at home! Americans are finally getting some relief. Finally, right? Good news, people. We talked so much about bad news. Oh my gosh, inflation, blah blah. This is good news. Gas prices are heading south, down! Government forecast says that they could drop below $3 a gallon. Whoof!

JAKE TAPPER: Finally, some economic relief, however, minor Americans are paying a little less at the pump after weeks of rising energy prices.

JOHN BERMAN: Relief for the United States as energy costs drop.

BRIANNA KEILAR: That pain that you’ve been feeling at the pump? It may be short lived.

KATE BOLDUAN: There is finally some relief at the pump.

WOLF BLITZER: Good news that the pump.

MATT EGAN: Finally getting some relief, as you mentioned.

KATE BOLDUAN: The national average price of gas dropped four cents in the last week.

DON LEMON: Gas dropped nearly a nickel in the last week.

MATT EGAN: It’s a seven-week low. It’s moving in the right direction.

JOHN BERMAN: The average is now at a seven-week low.

MATT EGAN: Actually, a seven-week low.

VICTOR BLACKWELL: Slightly lower gas prices. So that’s good news.

ERICA HILL: This is the kind of positive news we’ve wanted.

BUCK: Oh, yeah, this is the kind of positive… Clay, I just want to say, CNN wants all the peasants to know: Don’t spend all you’re pennies you’re saving in one place, folks. Crazy.

CLAY: It dropped a nickel! They’re bragging about the price of a gallon of gas dropping a nickel? Now, here as I was listening to that, Buck, question for you. I know you’re in New York City. What percentage of the CNN anchors we heard talking about the price of gas pump their own gas? I drive my car, I pump my own gas, I live in middle America, I have a car, I notice what the price of gas is. I am a normal human being. Do you think that Don Lemon pumps his own gas?

CLAY: See, I think he’s got a driver most of the time.

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: And so I think he would be — and I think this is true of most CNN anchors, and, look, there are people in Fox News who live all different sorts places. I don’t want to blow ’em up here but they live all different sorts of places in the country. Obviously, you live in Manhattan. It’s not like you’re driving up — you don’t even have a car. You got your scooter.

BUCK: Whoa. Hey, hey, too soon!

CLAY: Used to have a scooter. But when I hear that, we know… So for people out there who missed the story, they had head-on meetings, the Biden White House did, with friendly media sources to say, “Hey, we think you’re not being positive enough about the trajectory of the economy,” and then all of a sudden there are all of these stories on CNN about the price of a gallon of gas dropping a nickel.

And you’re supposed to tell me that these are not going to actually be directly connected? It’s embarrassing — and, by the way, dropping a nickel means if you’re, you know, out there and you’re filling up 20 gallons — let’s say you got a truck or you got an SUV — it’s a dollar. You’ve saved a dollar on filling up your gas tank.

BUCK: Maybe even more important way to put this in the context for everybody in terms of the numbers, Clay, would be gas price a year ago was $2.25 a gallon. Now it’s about $3.25 a gallon. So you’re up a dollar a gallon ,but CNN is throwing a little party for the Biden regime because it’s back down if you’ve cents. Look, they have no… I also understand.

Their mandate is to make this Biden White House look like it is semi-competent and not a total failure from all angles and all perspectives and I think what we already recognize is they don’t even have the basics for that. Right? It’s not even really possible to spin this level of failure and incompetence. So I don’t envy the job that Psaki at the White House and the CNN anchors posing as journalists have. I mean, do you think CNN is a journalistic enterprise, Clay? I don’t.

CLAY: No. And look. If they just flat-out came out and said, “Hey, we’re in the opinion business” —

BUCK: Yep.

CLAY: — then I would say, “Okay, I don’t agree with them on a lot of different things, but they are in the opinion business and all of us have different opinions.” But it’s when you try to lecture me that you are an unbiased journalist dispensing only the truth that your lies become readily apparent.

BUCK: So we may think that Joy Reid, Lawrence O’Donnell, whoever is saying crazy things over at MSNBC, but there is an honesty at MSNBC that these are people doing opinion shows.

CLAY: Yeah. They are partisan.

BUCK: CNN still clings to the fiction that you’re getting journalism even from their evening hosts. They are pretending there is no ideological bias. It’s just dishonesty, folks, but we live in a world of dishonesty these days because of the mainstream media.

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Kentucky Tornado Victim: We Need Help

17 Dec 2021

BUCK: Let’s get some of your calls, though. We have Scott in Dawson Springs, Kentucky. Scott, how are you doing?

CALLER: I’m doing… I’m doing what I can. I’m at the church right now trying to help with supplies and everything. (sigh) I just wanted to kind of give you guys the heads-up about my town. It’s almost been completely destroyed. Two houses down from me, there’s nothing left. Me and my kids, thankfully, made it out safe. We have been trying to find people since last Friday, last Saturday.

We’ve been trying to get power back on for everybody. And I just want to kind of go over about the Biden’s little photo-op that he had when he came here. He was here for literally 30 minutes. They shut down the entire town for five hours, made everybody stop doing what they’re doing. Time… Time is very precious over here, and they completely shut everything down. Nobody wanted him here.

We have 15% Democrat voters here. Nobody wanted him here. They had to shut everything down. They cherry-picked the two Democrats that live here so he can walk around and then (snort) the guy goes around sniffing and hugging all the children. I’m not even exaggerating… (chokes up) I’m sorry. I’m a little rattled. (sigh) I tried to put this out on Twitter, and I get a text from every angle telling me that the people of this town don’t deserve any help whatsoever because we’re in Kentucky; we’re all Republicans. I mean, like —

CLAY: Well, Scott, first of all, you deserve all of the help that anybody can give you.

CALLER: (crosstalk)

CLAY: I know that it’s an incredibly stressful time for everybody. What could people do who are listening right now to help the victims of the tornadoes all over the Kentucky region and your neighborhood and your city and your town? What can people do?

CALLER: Donations. Like Glenn Beck says, give until it hurts, because we’re really suffering really bad down here. I believe there’s about 88 people still unaccounted for, and that’s why we’re so mad at Biden. We’re trying to dig through rubble, people are trying to find their personal belongings, pictures that mean everything to ’em. I mean, there’s no houses left in some areas, and you can’t recognize any of my town. It’s horrible.

It’s the worst thing I’ve ever gone through in my entire life, and this butthead wants to come here and shut the entire thing down just so he could take some pictures and sniff children! I mean… (sigh) I’m beside myself, and it’s really hard for me to talk right now. I’m extremely rattled. But I really wanted to get the true story out because all these news reports are saying that we welcomed him with open arms, and that is just not the case. We did not want him to come here!

CLAY: Scott, thank you for the call. Again, anybody who can help Dawson Springs, Kentucky, or the area, there are many people overwhelmed in desperate need of all of your help as we move closer and closer to the holiday season and so many people all over Kentucky and beyond have lost everything they have. So, if you can help out, please do.

CALLER: Yeah.

CLAY: RedCross.org I know has a lot of different places you can give. There are many different locations where you can donate out there. I’m just giving one. Google it, make your efforts as best you can.

BUCK: Thoughts and prayers — good. Sending some help — also good.

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YouTube Dings Us for Sharing “Medical Misinformation”

17 Dec 2021

CLAY: We played you the audio of under-oath Senate testimony from the CEO of Southwest Airlines and the CEO of American Airlines saying that they did not believe that masks on airplanes made you any safer at all. After we had that discussion, we also are starting to post clips, by the way, on YouTube from the show. We took that discussion that we had in conjunction with the CEO of Southwest Airlines and the CEO of American Airlines, discussing mask efficacy or the lack thereof in their opinion on their airplanes.

YouTube said that that was not a permissible opinion to share on their website, and they dinged us for sharing “medical misinformation.” Now, this is significant because we weren’t claiming to be doctors. We were sharing the opinions of two airline CEOs! Buck, two guys that I would venture to say probably know quite a bit about the safety of airplanes across the board since it is their entire business.

BUCK: The First Amendment as a principle has effectively no meaning if it doesn’t include discussion. We always say, “Well, what’s the heart of the First Amendment?” Criticizing your government. Talking about policy. The First Amendment should not be suspended, either as a matter of law or a matter of principle… I know people who say, “Oh, but these are private platforms.”

You should not be suspended on the issue of medical policy just because some people are always afraid and always terrified and want to control everybody around them, and that’s what’s happened here. We’ve been talking about for months now about vaccine failure, and what do we get? People say, “Oh, that’s not true, and that’s horrible and how dare you?” and there are hit pieces and all this other stuff. The vaccines as a matter of stopping the spread as a policy have failed.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: As a policy to stop the spread, it has failed. As a personal effective measure, it is effective against hospitalization and death, not really against infection, folks. So just remember, you very well could get covid even if you vaxxed and boostered. If you’re at risk, it will probably keep you out of the hospital or make it less severe if you go into the hospital. So still very worthwhile. Clay’s parents, Buck’s parents, boosted as well as vaccinated to be very clear.

But we need to separate out these discussions because all this stuff we’re doing is about source control as a matter of mandates, right? The mandates are about, “Oh, well, you don’t have the right to make the decision for yourself. You are gonna give it to other people.” Well, those who listen to the that and are board with that and said, “This is great,” are still walking around and infecting people.

You see Cornell, Stanford, the schools, you talk about the sports leagues, schools are going full virtual right now. They’re going full-on virtual. These are campuses are mandatory not only vaccine but testing and mask requirements. My friends, how much more obvious can it be that the Fauciite mitigation regime doesn’t work when places that require vaccines and masks and weekly testing are shutting down because of too many covid cases?

What else has to happen? Fauci is — I wish I could curse on radio — the absolute worst, and the people that have propped him up and pushed all this are doing an enormous disservice to their fellow Americans — and, obviously, to the whole world — and this is why I get so angry with YouTube and Twitter and these social media platforms. They shut… Is Alex Berenson back on Twitter, Clay?

CLAY: Of course not.

BUCK: Banned from Twitter. He was right.

CLAY: About everything.

BUCK: Twitter should send him a bottle of champagne and a “We are so sorry we’re a bunch of lib jerks.”

CLAY: There’s no doubt, and look, the other thing here is, the Democrats for a while… I don’t even know if they’re still trying to argue it. They were the party of science, right? That was such a ridiculous argument because anyone who has ever studied any kind of science knows that science is about questioning everything. You have to be insanely skeptical of all scientific truths and challenge them all the time lest you end up believing things that are untrue.

And for people out there who believe that science never gets things wrong, hey, anybody remember bloodletting? It wasn’t that long ago that the way that you would treat somebody when they were sick was by bleeding them! That was the consensus opinion of science. The way that we advance science is not by blindly believing that which is in front of us. It’s by challenging everything.

And, by the way, there’s still a lot of blind believers. On MSNBC, Buck, if you listen to this cut, they were saying, “Hey, how dare Southwest’s CEO and how dare American Airlines’ CEO share their opinions on masks?” ’cause it doesn’t fit what MSNBC wants their opinion to be. Listen to this. I believe Morning Joe. Cut 8.

KATTY KAY: I’m just not sure I’d be at all comfortable, Joe, would you, getting on a plane if no one was wearing masks?

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, no. I mean, listen, I know that they’ve improved the airflow. But if they have proof of that, I want to see the medical studies and the documentation. And because if — if masks don’t make any difference, then we all would like to not wear masks. But, Katty, that seems a little crazy.

KATTY KAY: (snickering) I would get on those planes.

BUCK: “I would not get on those planes,” she says. Okay, hold on a second. Does she think the virus can call a time-out when everyone’s eating for 15 or 20 or 30 minutes at a time? Does she think that there’s actually a free zone you can get into when you have to mask up between bites? This is so obvious, but people are so dug in to thinking that they’re smart and virtuous and good that they can’t even think through.

What’s more likely? A high-tech actual HEPA filter, they call it, that will take all the particulates and the virus out of the air — it’s an actual filtration system that is science-based — or pulling up and down your Biden-Kamala 2024 mask in between bites of potato chips? Which one of these is more scientific, Joe? Think it through.

CLAY: Well, how about Joe Scarborough not being willing to trust the opinion of the Southwest CEO and the American CEO? Just take yourself out of the picture yourself. Do you think that airline CEOs are in the business of putting their passengers at risk? The number one responsibility of every airline CEO is to ensure that people who get on their planes healthy, get off their planes healthy, that planes don’t crash, that people are not unnecessarily put at risk during the course of air flight and travel.

You think those guys are going to cavalierly risk their business? The only reason, by the way, both of these CEOs — under oath in the Senate, I might add — under oath were willing to share their opinion, I think, Buck, is ’cause they’re both retiring. That’s why. Retirement gave them the freedom, after 18 months of following this cosmetic theater charade, to finally step forward and say:

“You know what? There’s no reason why at airports you have to wear a mask.” Buck, I talk about this all the time. The only place in all of Nashville — the only place in the entire state of Tennessee — that you have to wear a mask is the airport. Only place. Nowhere else that I go am I required to wear a mask. I had to put one on this morning.

BUCK: And think about this. So everyone who comes in to the state of Tennessee, they’re gonna go restaurants and bars and hotels and see family and see friends, no masks. But it’s really important to harass them for that five minutes they walk from the gate to the exit where they’re picked up or where they hop into a family member’s car. Really important to make sure they’re not spreading covid then. My friends, you’ve been lied to.

The people saying this to you are control freaks and idiots, and it’s obvious now. They’ve failed. They’re never gonna tell you they failed. They failed, and a big part of that failure comes from their absolute obsession with shutting down things like what we’re doing: Open discussion about this. If we’re wrong, we tell you. If we’re right, we tell you. We tell you what’s actually happening. Let’s have different voices on here.

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FAUCI: You’ve gotta just take things one step at a time and take a look at how things evolve. I mean, obviously, if you are vaccinated, your family’s vaccinated, you have friends who are vaccinated — and hopefully also boosted — you could still enjoy a social gathering generally in a home. You’ve gotta be careful when you go into large public indoor spaces where there are a lot of people there.

And that’s the reason why you should be wearing a mask under those circumstances but you’ve gotta follow what’s going on. If the counts keep going up and the test positivity keeps going up we may need to be more restrictive. But right now people who are vaccinated and boosted should feel reasonably comfortable. The risk is never zero. That’s for sure.

BUCK: Never zero. That’s also true of getting out of bed and leaving your house. Welcome back to the Clay and Buck show. You’ll notice what the chief propagandist of the covid apparatus is saying here. You’ll notice he’s telling you they’re just gonna get more restrictive, ’cause guess what? Cases are going up. They’re going up. They’re gonna keep going up.

Mask mandates will not put a dent in it. It’s firing a BB gun at a freight train, and that might be too kind to the efficacy of masking in the first place. But it’s not gonna do a damn thing. We all know it. So, what’s gonna happen? They’re gonna call for more restrictions. Are those restrictions going to do anything, Clay?

CLAY: No.

BUCK: How many times do we have to run the same experiment?

CLAY: Not only are they not gonna do anything, the dishonesty that is going to overwhelm so many of you out there listening is what we know, Buck, after almost two years is we see surges that go around six to eight weeks, right? New surges occur at different times, at different places based on seasonality and other external factors — and then no matter what we do, they basically fall off the face of the planet.

And if we follow the same rough trajectory that we did last year — and we’ve been saying this for a while now; maybe it won’t be the same. But if we do, the covid cases are going to peak around January 15th. And what was interesting was, remember how Joe Biden’s team took immediate credit earlier in 2021, Buck, when the numbers started to decline?

They tried to argue, “Oh, well, now that the adults are in the White House and people are wearing masks, well, the cases are starting to decline.” And if you went and looked at data you actually said, “Wait. Actually, the numbers started to go down a week to 10 days or so before Inauguration Day, and they just continued because that’s the natural trajectory of the virus no matter what we do.”

BUCK: Can we just take a moment? I know that this isn’t always that instructive or helpful because you can do this all the time, right? But think for a second, my friends, if we were exactly where we are right now but instead of Joe Biden as the president, Donald Trump is president of the United States. Think of what the CNN death count looks like, the case count on the cover of the New York Times. CNN would have it in bright red and make it look like it was written in blood.

It would be completely out of control because they would be blaming the entire thing, just like they did in 2020, on the people in charge. Somehow, somehow here we are with Biden saying, “Oh, we’re going into death and despair for the unvaccinated…” There’s also a pretty high percentage — you’re gonna see more and more of this hospital data, 20%, 25%, 30% hospitalized — fully vaccinated in different places. So this notion…

Is that anywhere near what we were promised in May and June? These people were trying to force this vaccine on your kids. And now we’re seeing how well the whole thing has worked out. Fauci said no more. I could sit here all day and just do Fauci fact checks, but I’d lose my mind and pull out all my hair. That would take a while. But Fauci is wrong again. He said, “Get over 50% vaccination we probably won’t see a surge.” Clay, what are we at, 70% now?

CLAY: Oh, it’s even higher for adults 18 and up. You know when they talk about the number of unvaccinated people, they are including babies, they’re including 2-year-olds who aren’t right now, thankfully, getting the vaccine. But —

BUCK: All ages, 72%. It’s just all ages, 72.

CLAY: All ages, again, like it’s like 80% for 18 and up, right, that have gotten at least one shot.

BUCK: It’s 95% for 65… I’m reading the current CDC data, folks. I’m not guessing. I actually pulled it up right in front of me: 95% of those at high risk. So what’s going on? Is it only the 5% going to the hospital and dying from covid? Obviously not.

CLAY: No, Buck, and remember the data we have from England which shows that 75 to 80% of the people that are dying in England right now are double vaxxed. That’s where here headed here too based on the data. That’s where we’re headed.

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BUCK: In New York now, Clay, we got signs up everywhere. You gotta mask up in gyms again. This is the thing that made me hate Fauci almost more than anything else, because you have people who are on the treadmill… I’m not a treadmill guy, obviously. (laughing) But people who are on the treadmill are choking and coughing. It’s so stupid. One after the other they come in behind me, and they see me in no mask, and they take their masks off.

Finally, I think people are realizing, “This is just stupid. It’s too stupid. Oh, a couple of weeks ago it was safe. Now it’s not safe,” and we had this — and you sent this out to our team last night — the CEOs of Southwest and American Airlines. Remember planes are the place they never budged on masking. And here they are saying that masks on planes don’t really do anything. That’s what they’re telling us. Clip number 5, sir.

SOUTHWEST CEO GARY KELLY: I think the case is very strong that masks don’t add much, if anything, in the air cabin environment. It’s very safe and very high quality compared to any other indoor setting.

SEN. ROGER WICKER: Mr. Parker?

AMERICAN AIRLINES CEO DOUG PARKER: I concur. The aircraft’s the safest place you can be. That’s true of all of our aircraft. They all have these HEPA filters and the same airflow.

CLAY: So what’s funny about that, Buck, is that was, by the way, Senate testimony; so they’re under oath there. The American and Southwest CEOs are both retiring. They are gonna be replaced, and I think that’s probably why they felt comfortable actually saying that. But I love that the other CEO immediately said, “I concur,” because it’s all a sham. I love it.

By the way, this is not getting anywhere near as much attention as I think it should be getting because anyone out there who has to travel — and I’m flying tomorrow — that is the place where you talk about being in the gym and being furious about the fact that you have to wear a mask. Thankfully I’ve never had to do that where I live. But the idea that you have to put a mask on to get on an airplane and the fact that I have to put a mask on to walk through an airport terminal infuriates me.

I understand there’s people out there saying, “What’s the big deal? It doesn’t really matter that much.” It does matter. If you tell me to do something that is totally not helpful and is actually making me comply with a stupid rule for no reason, I’m gonna be furious about it and I love — finally, after 18 months — the fact that we’ve got the CEOs of Southwest and American lines coming out and pointing out what is indisputably true which is masking makes no sense and all the petty tyrant flight attendants who were constantly walking up and down the aisle telling you that you took your mask down too long to take a sip or eat some pretzels, they’re all completely a sham. It’s all cosmetic theater. There’s no basis in reality for it whatsoever.

BUCK: The airlines have been the place of greatest mask-surdities. We all know. This is the place where they’re the most absurd, the most. I was on that Spirit Airlines flight — remember I live tweeted this — when they escorted people off the plane. That was for — and we all had to wait 45 minutes, then they had to bring the paperwork people, that was because they had it beneath their nose a few times. Okay, that was what the full offense was.

It was below the nose. I’ve been on planes where they’ve woken people up from slumber to say, “Your mask has dipped below your nose, sir.” These people are sociopaths, and, I’m sorry, I’ve talked to people work at airlines. They don’t have to do this. But I guess there are a lot of libs working for the airlines these days or they’re so terrified of the libs around them as passengers. But this is just one example, yet again, of what we’ve said all along here.

The notion that you’re at so much risk on an airplane. So you get on a plane, you gotta mask up, but then you go into a restaurant in how many different places in America and you sit there for a few hours with people without masks on eating? I got my coffee this morning ’cause I couldn’t make it myself — I usually do. I was in a rush I got it at, you know, Starbucks. I know, I know. Boo me later. I’m at Starbucks. I get my coffee and there are people that are in line with masks on. Everyone sitting down is unmasked. Someone explain this to me, Clay. They act like this is going to stop Omicron? You’ve gotta be kidding me.

CLAY: What about just on the airplane itself? You can eat a snack and drink with your mask off, but as soon as you’re done, you have to put it back up. You’re taking your mask off to eat and drink, and the one thing that really… My wife gets frustrated ’cause I point it out every time but I feel like I have to tell somebody. Obviously I can tell everybody on the radio but when I’m walking through the airport terminal… I live in Nashville, right? When you walk through the Nashville airport anteriorly there are a couple of different bar restaurants inside of Nashville that they built so that you sit at a bar and look out into the terminal.

In other words, instead of facing towards the wall or facing inwards on the restaurant there is a line of bars where you can sit and look as everybody walks past you while you sit there and have dinner while you have a beer whatever you’re doing — while they, by the way, have a live stage with live music going on as well. You can literally from those seats, Buck, reach out and touch anybody who is walking by.

You are breathing directly into the middle part of the terminal. You have to have a mask on in the terminal as you walk past these people. The people sitting at the bar eating and drinking — literally who could reach out and touch you — do not have to wear masks. This is a childlike absurdity, and really what it reminds me of, Buck, is the kind of rules that authoritarian regimes put in place. For anyone who’s ever studied history, they have all of these illogical rules which are often based on a leader who is not a rational person, and everybody is trying to jump through the hoops to make sure that they are complying with whatever absurdity is the daily rule of the regime.

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CLAY: Buck, one thing that nobody’s talking about: This transgender swimmer issue. Some of you know that we’ve talked about this story a decent amount and the reason why I love it is because it brings to the forefront identity politics and the failure of identity politics as a reliable and reasonable and rational political philosophy. Because you have hard-core feminists — women’s athlete spokespeople, Title IX adherents — who believe that women — and I’m one of these people — are the equal of men and that they deserve the right to compete at the highest possible level against other women.

And then you have transgender activists who believe that men can decide to become women and set all-time women’s records and they should be applauded for this. And you can’t be both. You have to pick a side. And these are two theoretically left-wing groups. I’m a hundred percent confident in picking my side. I’m in favor of biological women being able to compete against biological women.

And so are the vast majority of Democrats, Republicans, independents, anyone who cares about sports competition in this country. I’m one of the only people — and OutKick is one of the only media sites — that will even cover this story, Buck. The parents of these UPenn swimmers, probably many of them liberal, certainly many of them, if you look at the overall breakdown of UPenn, probably from wealthy Northeastern communities.

They have written a letter now to the NCAA saying this wrong and all these people in sports media who have said, “Oh, we’ve gotta speak out! We’ve gotta talk about the intersection of sports and politics,” they’re all silent. They’re pretending — ESPN, Buck, they gave Caitlyn Jenner the ESPY for courage for becoming a woman. They haven’t even covered this story at all. There’s not one ESPN article about this direct threat to women’s athletics.

BUCK: And this is why when we had Abigail Shrier on, I asked her that question about the machinery and the apparatus, and who really pushing for this because it’s fascinating. You won’t see… There are so many people who will go along with this, but they won’t — as an individual in public — stand up and say, “This makes sense. This is a good idea.” What you do have are the massively influential but nameless… Well, faceless. They have named companies, of course. But no one individual.

It reminds me of my dad used to belong to — a long time ago — a hunting club, right? You go shoot birds, and there was really one guy who ran the whole place, and he used to sign every pronouncement. If it was that you had to wear blue shirts on Tuesday, everything was signed “The Committee.” But he was the committee. There was no other committee, right?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: What do you do? You can’t go up against a committee. You have H.R. departments, you have college admissions offices, you have corporate now — at the very top level — executives who will put forward this guidance about the trans issue — and obviously universities, all the university administrators will get on board with this. But it always comes as part of the collective. Individuals will not make this argument, Clay, because they know they would be humiliated because it is so clearly wrong and so clearly stupid. So they have to hide behind the committee, if you will, or the collective.

CLAY: I put up a poll, Buck, ’cause I was just curious. We know Twitter is extremely left-leaning and that it’s overwhelmingly filled with Blue Checkmark Brigade members who are running around trying to defend the transgender community or whatever “oppressed group” of the moment that they have decided is being disrespected. And I just asked a simple question, right?

Do you believe a biological male athlete should be able to compete in women’s sports if he decides to change his gender to a woman? Okay? Simple question. Over 20,000 people voted so far in the first couple hours — and if you want to vote on this you can go find me on Twitter @ClayTravis, scroll down. Buck, 98% of people said “no.” Ninety-eight percent.

You know how hard it is to get 98% of people to agree on anything under the sun right now? Yet almost no one will even discuss this. So I started tagging people, right? Megan Rapinoe. She’s always talking about women’s sports. She’s so brave ’cause she wouldn’t go to the White House, women’s soccer player, won’t talk about it. Jemele Hill. Remember Jemele Hill said Donald Trump was a white supremacist?

She won’t talk about it. Pat Forde — who’s a big Sports Illustrated writer — his daughter, to her credit, is actually a women’s Olympic swimmer. She made the Olympic team. If men are able to be female swimmers, she wouldn’t make the Olympic team! He tweets about women’s swimming all the time. He won’t comment on it. ESPN, as I said, Buck, hasn’t even written a single story about this case. It is unbelievable. It’s a conspiracy of silence because, Buck, remember for a long time they said, “Oh, this is never gonna happen.”

BUCK: That’s why they have to be quiet.

CLAY: This will never be an issue.

BUCK: They have to be quiet because the way that they tried to shut down people like you and me who for years — I’ve been talking about the trans issue for years — have been saying things like get ready for them in the bathrooms, get ready for transgender individuals competing in women’s sports, get ready for transgender individuals in female prisons, which is also now happening.

CLAY: That’s scary ’cause that’s a safety issue.

BUCK: You’ve gotta imagine if you’re a guy who’s facing life in prison, you’d probably rather be in the woman’s prison, wouldn’t you, right? And now what are the standards for this and, “Oh, you’ve gotta say some things to the prison shrink. ” This is happening. These are all things that are occurring now. But if the people that had been saying it will never happen now come out in favor of it then they’re caught because we can point to, “You said this was never going to happen and clearly you were full of it,” which has been true.

This is the incrementalism that the Democrats use to fight the culture wars all the time. In fact, they’ll call you bigoted for even raising what we all know will eventually happen. And then when it happens, they pretend like it didn’t. It’s effectively gaslighting on a massive scale. It is remarkable, though, that of all the women in sports media, for example —

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: — they’re not going to come forward and stand up for women’s sports. Women’s sports are actually at risk here as a serious endeavor. That is the reality of what is underway.

CLAY: A hundred percent true.

BUCK: What is the point of trying to be the best in your league, the best in the NCAA, the best in the world if a guy can come in and beat you? I remember years ago I used to do CrossFit, Clay. You’d see the men’s… There are guys going in there with… I’m not speaking personally but they got like 20 or 30 extra pounds around the belly, and there are women who were clear physical specimens working out every day. The chubby guy sitting behind a desk has a higher bench press than the women. We all see this. It’s reality around us all the time.

CLAY: Pound for pound, my wife is a much better athlete than me. She’s also five foot two, 105 pounds. The idea that we should be competing in a sprint when I’m six foot, 180-ish…? I say 180-ish cause it’s kind of the holidays and I’m not sure exactly what I weigh right now. But the idea is crazy. Everybody out there understands it — and, Buck, it’s not even just male versus female. We decide, for instance, in boxing or UFS or whatever, we have weight classes.

In high school, we have different standards for state championships because the school that has 3,000 students shouldn’t be able to be judged against the school that has 300. This is a big part of fairness in athletics. We have all different sorts of weight classes, all different sorts of designations when it comes to what schools, public versus private, some schools give scholarships and they don’t, big college and small ones. These things happen all the time.

BUCK: I rowed in college. It would have been great if I could have rowed as a lightweight. I would have been a kickass lightweight. I was a heavyweight in college.

CLAY: Here’s the deal, Buck. I suck at golf. I love to golf. I don’t get to do it as much since I had kids. If I got to play from the women tees, I would be pretty good at golf. If I got to 200 yards off of some of the holes, I’d be getting a lot more birdies. It would be ridiculous. Like, you if you and your buddies are playing. It’s kind of funny and ridiculous but it points to the absurdity. And you walked up and you were like, “Today I’m feeling like a chick,” and you just played from the red tees the whole day and you crushed your buddies, they wouldn’t allow you to do it, first of all, because it’s the very essence of competition.

BUCK: You almost think the only way this goes away is, you know, in USTA tennis, right, there’s the challenger matches beforehand. You can get into those pretty easily they could have the man who’s number 250 in the world compete as a woman for the U.S. Open tennis championship. If he wins, I think he gets 4 or $5 million. Is someone willing to do that? Are you willing to pretend you’re a woman for a week for 4 or $5 million? I think a lot of people the answer would be — well, not a lot, but some people the answer would be — yes.

CLAY: It’s almost on some level where someone just needs to change their gender for purposes of dominating a sport.

BUCK: That’s what I mean. Yeah.

CLAY: But make that candid choice and not even say it publicly initially, dominate, and then say this is the reality of what happens in the larger scale.

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