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Team Reality Is Slowly Starting to Win on Covid

22 Dec 2021

CLAY: Let me kind of recap what has been going on of late. Joe Biden’s new grand plan to deal with covid is to give 500 million free tests. The problem is those are not gonna be available until January, and I just want to tee off on testing here for a moment. It doesn’t make any sense, by and large, to test that often for covid at this point. Let me explain what I mean by that.

The covid test requires you to test multiple days in a row, right? So if you’ve got a little bit of a scratch in your throat, if you test, you might be negative on today but you might be positive for tomorrow. So how many tests are you going to buy? Are you going to test yourself every day, every time you have a little bit of a sniffle, little bit of a catch in your throat?

I have had the flu, like many of you have, many times over the course in my life. Do you know how many times I’ve ever had a flu test? Never. We have lost sense for basic sanity. The rule for most of our lives has been this: If you feel sick, stay home and avoid exposing yourself to others. If you don’t feel sick, then you should go to work, you should go to school, you should live your life in a normal fashion. This idea that testing is in some way going to free us from covid has always been a total and complete joke unless the idea is we’re going to have billions of tests and everybody is going to test themselves every morning first thing when they wake up? It doesn’t make any sense.

Five hundred million tests are going to be gone basically the moment they go up online because the most filled with hypochondria of those of us out there are going to immediately buy them up. In fact, if you live in many parts of the country right now, you can’t find these tests even if you’re trying to buy them yourselves. They’re limiting how many you can buy already. What we are doing with testing is further solidifying the extreme neuroses that exist out there for people who are extreme hypochondriacs. We are endorsing their anxieties.

I just flew. I’ve been flying for two years. I never really stopped. And down in Key West, I gotta be honest with you, most people were pretty chill. You know what happened to me at a gate as I was getting ready to get on my flight back from Key West? I was sipping a coffee, and the gate lady came over to me, and she said, “Sir, between sips of your coffee you need to cover your face to protect everyone around you.” And there are many dumb things that I believe we’re going to look back on as it pertains to covid and say this was the most nonsensical element here. But the idea that you should replace your mask between bites or between sips inside of an airport or on an airplane is, I think, the most fundamentally, illogical, insane, and without scientific justification mantra that has become commonplace in our culture.

But let me tell you this. I do see some reasons for optimism, notwithstanding Biden’s ridiculous address yesterday and the fact that he wants 500 million tests. Let’s be clear on this. Biden has failed on covid. Dr. Fauci has failed on covid. And the reality is everyone was going to fail on covid because it was a virus, and almost everything that we have done has been cosmetic theater since this entire thing began. In fact, I want you to just follow me down a primrose path here and think — and I know Buck and I have talked about this a bit — but think about what would have happened if Donald Trump had won reelection in 2020.

Now, I know a lot of you out there are saying, well, he did win reelection in 2020. Understood. But let’s presume that he wins and is president right now. What is happening in America if Donald Trump is president right now and we had just crossed 800,000 covid deaths? What are the blue states saying? What are the red states saying? Everyone in media, just about, is blaming Donald Trump for 800,000 deaths. Notice how when Joe Biden took over all the blame for covid deaths miraculously disappeared? And I think we need to continue to talk about this data because it matters, but more people have died with covid. I say “with covid” because they’re typically dying with multiple comorbidities, and covid is one of them. But more people have died with covid since Joe Biden took office than died when Donald Trump was in office.

How many people in America do you think know that? Probably not very many because as soon as Democrats were able to get their guy in office in Joe Biden, she stop arguing that the president of the United States was responsible for everyone who died with covid. And remember, Joe Biden has more deaths from covid despite the fact that there are many therapeutics, despite the fact that the covid vaccine which we’ll talk about during the course of today’s show exists, despite the fact that we’ve had over a year to get used to what does and does not work in terms of medical treatment for covid.

Despite all of those advantages, Joe Biden as more deaths on his watch than Donald Trump did. And remember Joe Biden memorably said during the debates, any president who has over 200,000 deaths on his watch from covid doesn’t deserve to be president. I keep waiting for Joe Biden to resign, considering that he now has twice as many nearly deaths on his watch from covid as Trump did at the time that he made that statement during the debates.

The truth of the matter is Joe Biden ran his entire campaign on the idea that he would solve covid and he’s failed. And the reason why he has not solved covid is because politics is not going to solve covid. It’s a virus. The virus was going to virus no matter who was president.

The reality is Democrats in 2020 used covid to get Trump out of office and now that Biden is in office he has absolutely no solution whatsoever. My argument may be a bit of a departure. My argument is the president and Dr. Fauci and everyone else has almost no impact in what has happened with covid and the fact that we had a Republican president and now a Democratic president and the overly covid pandemic has continued is evidence of that. But what is glaring is the fact that the treatment of Donald Trump for covid is seismically different han the treatment for Joe Biden. And what we’re starting to see is reality is starting to set in.

I’m looking right now at a New York Times lead editorial from this morning, the Wednesday edition of the paper. I know Rush like to say his ink-stained fingers. I am old school in the context that I still love newspapers. I like to pick ’em up, I like to read them, the physical copy of the newspaper. Now, I’m online as you guys know all day, Buck’s online all day. We’re constantly making sure that we’re seeing as many new stories as we can. But I like to start off my morning reading the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, back-to-back, just to see the way that each of them is covering the world so that narratively I’m aware of what the arguments are out there. And what I’ve seen with the New York Times over the past few months is something pretty staggering.

Their headline right now on their lead editorial is: Do Not Close the Schools Again. Now, we haven’t gotten to the point that Buck and I argued back in certainly June and July of 2020 that every school in America needed to open for the fall 2020 calendar. Most schools didn’t. But we’re going to eventually end up there. But the fact that they are now acknowledging even in the New York Times that it makes no sense to shut down schools is a win for Team Reality.

The fact that they even buried in this editorial a paragraph and I read it and I called my wife over and I said, “You gotta see this,” I couldn’t believe that they were even acknowledging this. Do you guys remember back in August when I went and spoke at my local school board, and do you remember when everybody got labeled domestic terrorists who was willing to stand up to what was going on inside of their schools and I argued because the data and the science supports me that masks made no sense and nobody was any safer particularly young kids wearing masks.

Inside of the New York Times lead editorial: Do Not Close the Schools Again is this paragraph. “We should make masking in schools voluntary rather than mandatory. Masking was a necessary inconvenience…” — I dispute that but — “Masking was a necessary inconvenience early on, but to think two years of masking has no negative impact is shortsighted. Kids are resilient but not endlessly resilient. Anyone who wants to wear a mask should be allowed to, but masking in schools should be voluntary rather than mandatory. ” New York Times. Op-ed. Do not close the schools and masking should be voluntary, not mandatory. Who does that sound like? Team Reality.

Notice the pivots that are going on here. The pivots — where people like Buck and I have been sharing these facts with you since day one — the science isn’t really changing very much. We’ve had reliable data on who was impacted by covid since the summer of 2020 in this country. And the people who’ve been impacted by covid uniformly, whether it’s the Delta variant, whether it’s Alpha, whether it’s Omicron, or the senior citizens, the elderly, and the obese.

Since day one every single impact that has occurred, just about, has been related to elderly and obese people. And I just think it’s amazing here that even in this article in the New York Times, “The weekly hospitalization rate…” — I’m reading directly from their lead editorial — “…for school-age children is approximately one in a hundred thousand. This has stayed remarkably consistent through the original outbreak, the more transmissible Alpha variant and last winter’s surge and, yes, even through the summer Delta surge in the South and the fall, the available data…” — this is from the American Academy of Pediatrics — “…the available data indicate covid-19 associated hospitalization and death is uncommon in children.”

Hey. We’ve been telling you all this. Team Reality is slowly starting to win.

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David Zweig on the Irrationality of Mask Mandates in Schools

22 Dec 2021

CLAY: Gonna bring in now David Zweig. He’s done a fantastic job of actually looking at the science, looking at the data. He writes at The Atlantic. And David, we’ve had you on the show before. I appreciate you coming on, and let’s talk about masking with you. And I want to start here.

I don’t know if you saw this in the New York Times, but I read it this morning, and I was like, my goodness. The world really is shifting. In the New York Times lead editorial today they said, “We should make masking in schools voluntary rather than mandatory. To think two years of masking has no negative impact is shortsighted. Kids are resilient, but not endlessly resilient.” They say that masking should be voluntary. I almost spit out my drink when I was reading that ’cause you and I have been making that argument now for what feels like years based on the real scientific data. So, thank you for making the time for us. What is the latest on the masking data and science?

ZWEIG: Yeah. Thanks for having me. Well, the latest, at least from what I exposed in my investigation was that the CDC used a particular study of schools in Arizona as one of its key justifications for school masking mandates. And what I found is that this study in a long list of ways was basically, to put it bluntly, garbage. And this isn’t my opinion as a journalist; this is the view of more than a half dozen experts who I interviewed for the article.

CLAY: Thank you for that. And, by the way, for those of you who listen, I think we had you back on in the summer, if I remember —

ZWEIG: Yeah —

CLAY: — all the — yeah, all the data. So thank you for sharing that, that finding, which, unfortunately, doesn’t surprise me at all. Why have the masks-in-schools people, in your experience, been so committed to an idea that does not have any scientific basis in reality and claiming, while all the while claiming we care about science, we care desperately about protecting children, why have they clung so desperately to masking, in your mind?

ZWEIG: Yeah. Do you have two hours? (laughing.)

CLAY: I mean, is it psychological? Is it a safety blanket for them? I mean, you know, I’ve got three young kids. I don’t know what your kid situation is, David, but I don’t see it as remotely political. I just don’t want to make my kids do things that are uncomfortable that provide them no benefit, regardless of what it is, right?

ZWEIG: That sounds pretty reasonable.

CLAY: Human rationality, to me — I mean, you know, I could put my kids, for instance, in a flak jacket that protects them from being shot, right, when we walk to school. I guess that could be helpful if suddenly, like, someone showed up and started shooting at the school, but the likelihood of that on our walk into school is so low the Kevlar jacket would be pretty heavy on a kid. I could put my kid in a motorcycle helmet when they rode around in the car with me so they didn’t hit their head if we got into an accident but it would be really uncomfortable for them. We make these balancing acts all the time based on rationality and assessment of risk. Why is so few parents been willing to do that for masks?

ZWEIG: Yeah. So there’s a lot there that you ask. So I’ll try to tick it off. First of all, your assessment and your analogies about wearing helmets and stuff I think are on point, by and large, which is that the world is filled with risks, and we make different risk assessments, and, based on them, we decide what’s worth or not worth doing.

We also get in the car, most of us, you know, often by ourselves, with our families and go on the highway. There is a significant number of fatalities from car accidents every year, including pediatric fatalities. But the people who want their kids wearing masks I assume most of them are still getting in a car with their kids and there are far more children dying in car accidents.

So, but I think asking the question about why, you know, so many of these experts continue to push for this is complicated. I think part of it has to with the fact that the evidence overly — and this is a contentious point and others will disagree with what I’m saying here but this is my assessment and from, you know, being buried in the research and from talking with many experts.

There does appear to be pretty strong evidence that some masks work on some people in some circumstances. That seems for sure. A surgeon wearing a fit-tested N95 there is some pretty good evidence that that is protective. And people wearing kind of a junky mask if you pop into a store for 10 minutes, if everyone in there is wearing a mask, there is some protective effect. We’re not sure what it is. It’s hard to quantify. But there’s something there.

So — and I think these people sort of latch on to that and then conflate this sort of unknown protective effect of some masks in some circumstances and then conflate that with all masks working and that it’s worth doing anything you can. And that’s where brings us to the notion of mask mandates in schools. And the one thing I can tell you is, because I feel that I know this research as well as anyone there is, is that there is no evidence that mask mandates in schools offer any appreciable benefit.

There may be some marginal benefit. It has not been demonstrated. And then the question becomes some people philosophically will say, look. Even if it’s only a teensy-weensy benefit, we think it’s worthwhile. And other people like you and like me would say, look. Unless you can quantify this benefit and it seems really small, I don’t think it’s worth making my kid wear a mask for two years or even — or even two weeks, for that matter. This doesn’t make sense.

And one of the things that I pointed out in my piece for The Atlantic was that one of these studies that Rochelle Walensky, the director of the CDC, was on television, she was at White House briefings, she’s tweeted about it, talked about this particular study as like really the jewel in the crown of their masking justification. And the study has all sorts of errors and misleading information in it that is so bad that some of the experts who I interviewed in my piece and who I quoted say that it should never even have entered the public conversation.

CLAY: David Zweig with us. That’s an incredible finding that you did. And I want to thank you for the work that you’re doing here. Journalists should ask questions like these. They should be skeptical of authority. They should not presume that they are always being honestly treated by people in positions of power. Why are you one of the few people that will even ask these questions?

ZWEIG: I don’t know. I think part of it has to do with the fact that I’m an independent journalist, I didn’t go to an Ivy League school, I’m not, you know, in this sort of class of people who typically are most of the people at places like the New York Times or even the outlets that I write for at The Atlantic or elsewhere.

And I think there’s a certain type of groupthink that takes hold, and connected to that groupthink is the notion of most of the people tend to be politically homogeneous toward the left, and this has become such a politicized issue that it’s almost impossible to kind of push back, either, A, if someone wants to push back they’re told they can’t or they’re afraid to, or, B, I think there’s almost a religious nature to some of these measures where I think people who are otherwise very intelligent people are able to rationalize and sort of wall off that part of their brain that might look at these issues a little bit more clearly.

CLAY: Have you lost friends over your reporting on masking in schools?

ZWEIG: Well, you mean, other than the people on my hometown Facebook page who called me a child murderer? Nah. (laughing.)

CLAY: I do think that’s significant, right, because, you know, I’m active on social media for my job, but I don’t know what anybody in my high school class has ever done. I don’t know what most of the time what people in my — like, I’m not on, like, a private individual Facebook page. But my wife every now and then will say, people are losing their minds over the fact that you think kids should be in school when I was saying it last year, right, and that kids shouldn’t be wearing masks.

And so I think for people out there listening, you deserve a lot of credit — and we’re talking with David Zweig at The Atlantic — because of exactly that, right? There is a social pressure to get in line and not question the consensus. And if you do, you will be severely maligned. So you’re kind of joking about that, but I think that’s one reason that so many people are afraid to say what they actually think even in the world of media because they’re afraid about what might happen at the PTA meeting or they’re afraid about what their neighbors might think in a larger scale. I mean, I do think that’s a fascinating part of this story and why there’s so little debate.

ZWEIG: You’re exactly right. And so part of it is like a lot of these people in the media are — it’s not that they’re afraid. They actually do believe this. Again I think there is this almost kind of like walling off of a part of the brain toward sort of rational thought process on this. But for the other group of people, I can tell you this.

I am in contact with infectious disease specialists at some of our nation’s top institutions and epidemiologist, pediatric immunologists, I have a long list of people who I converse with regularly. And all of it has to be off the record. They all agree with what you and I have been saying, they feel vehemently that kids should be in school, they’ve been against many of the ideas and guidelines that Fauci has pushed for, they are against the idea of kids wearing masks in school, by and large, but none of them can speak out.

They’ve either been told explicitly by the head of their department at whatever university or hospital they’re at or it’s just implicit; people don’t want to be — most people are not comfortable being on the out of a group. And if all of your colleagues are saying one thing and all of your sort of people in your social network if you’re living in some sort of Northeastern, you know, liberal enclave or some college town somewhere where most of the politics trend toward a certain direction, it’s very, very hard to have the type of personality where you are — I wouldn’t say comfortable with it but where you are accepting of that.

For whatever reason, for better or worse, I have that personality where, to me, I just have needed to follow where the science has led me. And it has led me into a place that is very different from what much of the, you know, quote, blue states and Democratic and public health establishment has pushed for in America. And I’ll say one thing for why I think there’s a strong case why I am right on this, is that much of our peer nations in Europe are very much in line with what you and I are saying about kids being necessarily and about prizing normalcy for children and understanding the incredibly low risk to them.

The United States in this regard really is an outlier. So whenever that’s brought up to these people, they have a tough time coming up with a rebuttal. So that’s one of the things that I often try to point out in my articles is that we really are an outlier. The CDC wants children as young as 2 years old to wear a mask but yet the World Health Organization has repeatedly said no one under age 6 should wear a mask and the European version of the CDC, they called the ECDC, they don’t want anyone in primary school wearing masks. So why is it that the CDC’s guidance is so dramatically different from that of these other public health institutions?

CLAY: Last question for you, David. We appreciate you making the time. How does this end? How does masking in schools end if there is no science that supports it and if we’re dealing with some sort of magical, leap-of-faith style masking authoritarianism right now, how does it end in schools?

ZWEIG: I don’t know. And I have this conversation with people every day. And I just was corresponding with some infectious disease experts who have been instrumental in rolling back some of the programs in schools in their state, and they helped implement Test to Stay, which is a program where, instead of quarantining kids, they test them, and if they’re negative, then you can go to class. And I talk with them about, you know, how does this end?

You know, don’t you think we should start rolling this back? And they said right now it’s not politically, you know, palatable to do something like that. So it is a bit of a chicken or an egg thing. People are afraid to say something, but we’re never gonna get to the point where we can say something if everyone’s afraid to speak out. I worry it’s gonna be one of those things where it’s really gonna take the courage of some politicians, particularly in bluer states, to just go ahead and start rolling this back and then when people see that everything’s okay then the others will fall in line.

CLAY: David, we appreciate the time. Gonna tweet out your article for people who want to read this. You can follow me @ClayTravis. You’re @DavidZweig as well. I’ll give people your link. Appreciate all the work you’re doing and the fact that you’re willing to ask questions that may make some people feel uncomfortable.

ZWEIG: I appreciate you having me on again.

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Even Potato Head Finally Gets It? Welcome to the Party, Pal!

22 Dec 2021

CLAY: I started off the show, for those of you who are just now getting in your cars or just catching up with the fact that the New York Times has an editorial and the main editorial in their newspaper today says, do not close the schools again. It says that kids have virtually no risk from covid. And also buried in there is that masking in schools should no longer be mandatory. In fact, it says, “To think that two years of masking has no negative impact is shortsighted. Kids are resilient but not endlessly resilient. Masking in schools should be voluntary rather than mandatory.” And I thought that was interesting because the storyline is a-shifting in a hurry.

That’s the New York Times. Even CNN’s own resident Potato Head, Brian Stelter, also was asking, shouldn’t we be doing more to protect children by letting them live normal lives? It’s amazing how the narrative shift is occurring at CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post. You know who they’re starting to sound a lot more like? Voices for reason and sanity like Buck and I. Listen to this from CNN.

STELTER: With this inevitability about more and more and more cases, what is the better metric to be using? How should we be evaluating the fight against covid? Does the NFL point the way forward? The NFL this weekend saying we’re not gonna be testing every player all the time for covid because a lot of them are positive and they don’t even know because they’re asymptomatic. The NFL’s only gonna test if people show symptoms, if players show symptoms.

Is that the new way forward? And here’s another question since we’re hearing about schools closing again. We collectively took action to protect the elderly in 2020. Now shouldn’t we be doing more to protect children by letting them live normal lives? Are we really gonna let the kids suffer even more?

CLAY: Welcome to the party, pal. For those of you who are Die Hard fans, John McClane famously said, “Welcome to the party, pal.” This is what reasonable, rational people have been saying for 18 months now. We’re coming up on two-year anniversary of “15 days to stop the spread.” Remember back in March of 2020? We’re almost two years to the date since that happened. And only now are people in New York Times and people at CNN actually looking at the data and saying, wait a minute. Kids aren’t really at risk. Why are we making ’em wear masks in school? Kids aren’t really at risk. Why are we making them remotely go to classes?

And in the New York Times opinion here, I couldn’t help about notice, you know how equity is such a big thing for the Democratic Party, not equality, equity. You know what ended up happening when schools shut down that people like Buck and I have been saying for 18 months now? The school districts that shut down overwhelmingly served minority kids who were the least likely to have the ability to have Wi-Fi at home or have parents able to work with them. In fact, as schools reopen, this is in the New York Times editorial, 2% of majority white districts stayed closed. Eighteen percent of majority black schools stayed remote, and nearly a quarter of majority Hispanic schools stayed closed. The most inequitable results of any of our lives was directly driven by Democratic Party union with teachers and their teachers unions. They insisted that the poorest kids among us were not able to be in school in person, and that had an overwhelming impact on not just education, but also on children’s health.

Because do you know that in poor schools a huge amount of the nutrition and even the calories that kids get come from free breakfasts and free lunches? A huge part of kids having safe upbringings at home comes from teachers who are able to see kids who might be being abused and help to get them credit and support for all of the things that are occurring in those households. Because if you’re not in school, you don’t have the ability to get help. All of those things, I believe the biggest public policy failure in America since Vietnam is directly at the feet of Democratic politicians. Mayors, congressmen, senators, and, yes, Joe Biden himself all supported lockdowns when there was zero scientific evidence that schools should be shut down at all.

And now make no mistake what’s happening. They are trying to argue that things have changed, and that’s why they can support schools being open. CNN’s gonna do it. The New York Times is gonna do it, the Washington Post, the MSNBCs of the world, and they’re gonna try now to convince you that there was no possibility of schools being open last year, that Randi Weingarten is a hero. Watch it. They’re gonna try to change the story, and they’re gonna have you, some of you out there like kind of shaking your heads, saying, wait a minute. What’s changed that all of a sudden schools are gonna be open and kids are able to be back in person?

The data has been clear and transparent and without question since back in June of 2020 when all of the pediatricians, do you remember what that happened, the pediatricians came out and said, hey, we need to make sure that schools are open, the American Academy of Pediatrics? They said that in June of 2020. They said every school needed to be open all over the country by August and September of 2020. Trump argued that. And immediately the teachers unions and all the left wingers said. Oh, my God. Are you trying to kill us all?

There’s no way that we can have schools back open. And the results are clear now. If you were poor, if you were in a minority school district, you lost over a year of instruction and, as a result, that is the most deleterious, I really believe this, American social policy decision since all the way back, I really do believe this and it deserves more attention than it’s getting, all the way back to Vietnam. And in the years ahead what Buck and I have been saying is going to become commonly accepted truth. But what you guys need to remember is the number of people out there that allowed for this insanity to exist in the first place.

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Spider-Man’s Success in Theaters Sends an Important Message

22 Dec 2021

CLAY: Can’t recommend highly enough, if you’re looking for a good family movie that American Underdog movie is fantastic. I took my 7-year-old, my 11-year-old, my 13-year-old, my wife also went. Spider-Man, by the way, is out. My kids have been to see Spider-Man too. And people going back to the movies is an important part of normalcy returning. And I don’t know how many of you paid attention to what the box office was, but Spider-Man did over $250 million in its opening weekend, which is the biggest amount of opening weekend gross that a movie has done since Avengers: Endgame, second biggest ever for that Spider-Man movie.

Why is that significant? Even with Omicron going on, millions of people were willing to go watch the new Spider-Man movie in theaters including in New York City and L.A. That is an important message that is being sent by the general public. Same general public’s big filling up football stadiums, same general public that’s been going to concerts. We’re not going to allow the fears of a few, the anxiety-ridden absurdities that many people are going through in order to try and basically show how much more they care about covid than you do. They’re gonna triple mask, they’re gonna wear the shields, they’re gonna basically be wearing hazmat suits out there in the larger universe. People are over it. Reasonable, rational people are going to live their lives. You can’t stay curled up in the fetal position forever.

And, at some point, you have to stand up and say your fears don’t cancel my freedoms. And I think that’s what happened, frankly, with the Spider-Man movie, with football games that are going on. And I hope, by the way, that the Supreme Court is going to be willing to stand up to the Biden vaccine mandates, Brett Kavanaugh has that on his desk right now and say, “This is an unconstitutional overreach. OSHA doesn’t have the ability to mandate this.” And if that occurs from the Supreme Court, particularly in conjunction with the Senate, remember, voted against Biden’s vaccine mandate as well, it will send an important message about getting back to normalcy that I believe many people out there are already embracing in their day-to-day life.

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Will Gavin Newsom Cancel the L.A. Super Bowl?

22 Dec 2021

CLAY: Some news, by the way, out there that is a little bit crazy and continues to get more and more absurd. If you are a Texas A&M fan, Texas A&M has had to cancel their bowl game, their Gator Bowl against Wake Forest because of covid issues.

During one of the commercial breaks here I was on the phone talking with some people in the world of sports, and they were saying: Look. Omicron is leading so many of our vaccinated players to test positive now that it’s gonna be really difficult to have college and pro seasons as we currently do based on the sheer number of positive cases that are emerging even for people who are double vaccinated and even for people who have boosters. And the discussion that I had was we just have to get back to normalcy.

This is not going to go away. And most of these people are either asymptomatic or very minimal symptoms at most. And if you actually look at what’s going on right now, this is going to continue to be a larger and larger issue going forward.

In fact, the good question that we got from one of our VIPs, John, he said, “Given the expansion of vax mandates, passports, masking, etc., what do you think happens to the Super Bowl in California? Bless Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for ensuring the 2021 Super Bowl was played” — remember it was played in Tampa — “with as few obstacles as possible. But how could Governor Hairdo — aka Newsom — screw up the game in February of 2022?” I think it’s a fantastic question.

I think there’s a very real chance if you look at the data and you look at the continued mandates and restrictions that L.A.’s Super Bowl — ’cause that’s where it’s gonna take place in theory in the new stadium that the Rams and the Chargers play in L.A., in Inglewood. That L.A. Super Bowl is going to be in significant doubt. In terms of being able to have a crowd, in terms of being able to have the parties and the normal existence that surrounds the Super Bowl, which is why I started arguing last week, I believe it was, the NFL needs to move the Super Bowl out of L.A., and they need to put it either in Florida, Texas, or maybe flip the Super Bowl in Arizona, if you feel good about the Phoenix area being able to have a normal Super Bowl. ‘Cause next year’s Super Bowl is in Glendale in the Phoenix area.

They could theoretically flip-flop those, give the Super Bowl to Glendale, allow the Phoenix area to have a full crowd and not have to worry about Governor Newsom, Garcetti, all of the imbeciles who are creating covid obstacle after covid obstacle in the state of California from continuing to influence in a negative way so many of the issues that are going on right now. That’s the solution that makes sense as you move it out. I think they’re gonna create a huge mess.

You know if this was in Florida, Ron DeSantis would ensure whether they’re playing in Tampa, Jacksonville, or Miami, that game would take place. And there’d be full crowds and bars and restaurants would be hopping, hotels. Same thing, I believe, with Greg Abbott, if that game were taking placing in Jerryworld in Dallas, if they were playing in Houston, you know it’s gonna happen, you know it’s gonna happen with zero issues attached to it at all.

But in L.A., I just don’t know. I’m scheduled to be out there ’cause I do a sports gambling show, Fox Bet Live — I love to gamble on sports. We do a show for that entire week from the L.A. lot and I’m scheduled to be out there, I’m gonna be doing the radio show from there, too, but I’m not that confident that any sort of normal Super Bowl environment is gonna be taking place out there.

And when you consider that places like New York, Chicago, Boston, L.A., D.C., San Francisco, all those places now have vaccine mandates in order to get into a bar or restaurant, you’re supposed to be wearing a mask now if you go to Rams or Chargers games, supposed to have a vaccinate mandate or a negative test taken within 24 hours, this is gonna be a real mess. I think it’s a smart question that’s being asked. That’s why I said last week that if the NFL were being proactive as opposed to reactive, they would go ahead and move that thing. I don’t think there’s any doubt at all.

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22 Dec 2021

CLAY: I want to tell you a story of how lies spread and how artificial stories can become a staple of the overall media narrative that is out there. And I just saw this happen with Jesse Watters of Fox News. I know a lot of you watch Jesse on The Five. He’s got his own show on the weekend, I believe, at Fox News. I know Jesse a little bit. He’s not a close friend so I’m not taking up arms for him because he’s a buddy. I know him just a little bit.

But when I saw how fundamentally dishonest this story was, I said we gotta make sure that we address this on the biggest radio show the country so that we can have as many people as possible throwing punches back. So, that’s what we’re doing right here. All right.

How is the sausage made? Here’s what happened. Jesse Watters is speaking to a large group of people out in Phoenix, and he talks about how Dr. Fauci is a liar and how he needs to be exposed for those lies. And so I want you to listen to what Jesse Watters said in his speech to a crowded auditorium out in Phoenix. Let’s play cut 6. Just listen closely.

WATTERS: You gotta ambush a guy like Fauci, okay? You gotta be respectful because they’ll turn the tables on you and you can’t have it blow up in your face. So you say my name’s Thompson. I’m from da-da-da-da-da. Do you mind, Dr. Fauci, if I ask you a few questions? He’s gonna say no. But you were polite. So if he says, no, no, no, no, not right now, you say, no, no, no, we’re gonna address this right now. Just gonna speak gibberish. You let him talk, get it on tape, now you go in for the kill shot.

This is what you say, “Dr. Fauci, you funded risky research at a sloppy Chinese lab, the same lab that sprung this pandemic on the world. You know where people don’t trust you, don’t you? Boom. He is dead. He’s dead. Imagine Tucker Carlson teases out of the A block, “Coming up, brave college student confronts Lord Fauci at dinner.”

CLAY: Okay. That’s what Jesse Watters said. You just heard it all in the context in which he said it. Listen to what CNN did to that audio that they then brought to their audience. Let’s play cut 5. You heard the full, the full statement. Now I want you to hear the CNN version.

WATTERS: Gotta ambush a guy like Fauci, get it on tape with your iPhone or your buddy’s iPhone. Now you go in for the kill shot. The kill shot, with an ambush, deadly, ’cause he doesn’t see it coming. This is when you say, “Dr. Fauci, you funded risky research at a sloppy Chinese lab, the same lab that sprung this pandemic on the world. You know why people don’t trust you, don’t you?” Boom. He is dead. He is dead.

CLAY: All right. And then CNN used their edited version, remember Jesse Watters said, hey, I want you to approach him respectfully, I want you to have your phones out and ask him questions. And then CNN asks Fauci about the Jesse Watters ambush like he’s somehow advocating an assassination as opposed speaking in a metaphorical context about what a kill shot is, and this is what Fauci said.

FAUCI: That’s horrible. I mean, that just is such a reflection of the craziness that goes on in society. The only thing that I have ever done throughout these two years is to encourage people to practice good public health practices. And for that you have some guy out there saying that people should be giving me a kill shot, to ambush me.

I mean, what kind of craziness is there in society these days? That’s awful that he said that. And he’s gonna go very likely unaccountable. I mean, whatever network he’s on is not gonna do anything to him. I mean, that’s crazy. The guy should be fired on the spot.

CLAY: Okay. “The Guy Should be Fired on the Spot” is now the headline because he said Fauci should get a kill shot and because he said he should be ambushed. That’s a lie. But they, then, CNN has created a narrative where Jesse Watters called for the assassination and there are gonna be no consequences for what he said and he should be fired immediately. Think about the way that that story was played. How many of you saw the headline of Fauci demanding that Watters be fired for what was a discussion of a respectful way that a student journalist could potentially hold Dr. Fauci accountable for helping to fund gain-of-function research in labs that we believe, I personally, some of you, some of you may disagree, but I believe personally helped to directly lead to covid escaping from a Chinese lab and then infecting the entire United States and the world?

That is how the fake news in Donald Trump parlance, sausage is made. They take a cut of an overall paragraph of discussion, take it out of context, turn it into something 100 percent it was not, and then put it back on Dr. Fauci so Fauci looks like the victim and so he can demand that his critics be held accountable for their completely intemperate and unfair behavior and Fauci gets the opportunity to say, “Oh, I’m just a scientist supporting the science. How dare someone threaten to kill me.” Nobody threatened to kill you. This was about holding you accountable for your lies, which, by the way, the media continues to not hold you accountable.

When they make Fauci look like a victim, it makes it harder for others to attack him because they say, oh, look at all these illegitimate attacks he’s getting. Look at all these threats he’s having to deal with.” This is a monstrous, monstrous example of direct and flagrant lack of fairness in the media as it pertains to an overarching story. CNN lied. They got Fauci to lie based on an altered clip and many people in the media ran with it without taking the time to actually go listen to what was legitimately said. It’s everything that’s wrong with the media today.

 

 

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Census Data Confirms Mass Exodus from Blue States

22 Dec 2021

CLAY: Saw something that I thought was fascinating because the data, we’ve been talking on this show, one of my big theses about what is gonna happen with covid is it’s made the red states redder and the blue states bluer but that’s been occurring primarily because red state residents are being supplemented by refugees from blue states. And they came out with the data on, the Census data for 2021, and — this is interesting — New York was the number-one state to lose population. Around 320,000 New Yorkers bailed on the state. California was the second biggest loser, around 250K or so, followed by Illinois.

Hear me say, by the way, those are the three states that I see people moving into my state of Tennessee the most from. And if you’re from Texas or Florida, you may feel the same way, okay. So the big-state losers populations, almost all blue states, New York, California, Illinois, Massachusetts, Louisiana, which, by the way, has a Democratic governor right now who’s been among the most stringent in applying covid rules. Pennsylvania, D.C., Puerto Rico, which has all sorts of interesting challenges going on, Michigan, and New Jersey. Most of what we saw, in fact, was over one million people left blue states to move to red states in 2021. Why would they be doing that if the red states were so unsafe, if their covid policies were so dangerous?

I want to build on this in a moment, but these are the states that added population: Texas, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, South Carolina, Utah, Tennessee, Idaho, and Nevada. Almost all of those states red states. What is going on here with the great sorting of America? And if you live in Texas, Florida, Arizona, Georgia, Tennessee, states like those, North Carolina, should you be afraid that the people who are moving in, many of whom are from New York, California, and Illinois are going to destroy your way of life and, like moths, bring a great plague of wokeness to your state? I’ll tell you why I don’t think so in a moment.

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CLAY: When we went to break I was talking about the great mass migration that we’re seeing from blue states to red states, a million people in 2021 moved from blue states, primarily New York, California, and Illinois — to red states, primarily Texas, Florida, and Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, South Carolina, Utah, Tennessee, a lot of these states adding much of the population.

I was talking about the fact that where I live in the Nashville area, I meet people all the time that are moving into my neighborhood. I live in an area called Franklin, Tennessee, which is just south of Nashville about 15 or 20 miles in Williamson County. And our schools have stayed open. We were open all last year.

And so as a result been a lot of parents and a lot of families that have moved here. And what I see is New York, California, and Illinois, most commonly, Chicago area, is where people are bailing in Illinois, and I asked ’em why they came here, and they all say, to a person, man and woman, they moved because they were finally fed up with the politics and covid was the tipping point. And if you talk to real estate agents in Texas, Florida, Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, every single time a new covid policy goes into effect in these communities, in these states, in these cities, the phones start to ring off the hook. There are no properties, hardly, for sale right now in Tennessee in my area of Nashville because people are flooding in from New York, California, and Illinois. And I know there’s a fear out there that they’re going to change the politics. I think it’s actually the opposite.

I think they’re coming here for the politics, which is why I am arguing they are going to make red states redder because they’ve seen the deleterious, destructive policies of far-left-wing California, New York, and Illinois, and want to move to a place where they and their family never have to deal with those threats again which is why I believe red is getting redder and blue is getting bluer because of covid. And all of these policies are becoming more insane. Guys, I was just looking, Buck has talked about this, New York City vaccine mandates, by the way, not working because New York City keeps setting new highs for covid infections. But they’ve now been joined by Chicago, Boston, L.A., San Francisco, and Washington, D.C., where I went to college and have spent a decent amount of time. I live in Nashville now, the city that I’ve lived in the second most time in my life’s Washington, D.C. I love it. It’s a great town.

But this blew me away. Washington, D.C., now has a vaccine mandate in order to get into restaurants, gyms, entertainment facilities, indoor venues beginning January 15th. This is pretty wild. No test-out option here. Only 46%, this according to Matt Whitlock, 66%, I saw it retweeted by Erin Perrine, who used to work in the Trump White House, only 46% of D.C.’s black population is vaccinated, and only 34% of the 18-to-24 age range is. So D.C., which is a majority black city, now has implemented a covid vaccine requirement which will not allow the majority number of black residents in this black-run city to even go into restaurants, gyms, entertainment facilities, or other indoor venues. This is madness. This is madness on an epic level.

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  • New York Times: We Learned Our Lesson Last Year: Do Not Close Schools
  • Mediaite: Mediaite’s Most Influential in News Media 2021
  • Daily Wire: ‘At Its Heart Wokeness Is Divisive, Exclusionary, And Hateful’: Elon Musk Pulls No Punches In Wide-Ranging Interview With Babylon Bee
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  • New York Post: Biden delivers a double dose of ineptitude as COVID, BBB bedevil his presidency
  • Legal Insurrection: Nearly $100 Billion in COVID Relief Funds Have Been Stolen
  • Breitbart: Nolte: Biden’s and Fauci’s Calls for Segregated Christmas Undermine Confidence in Vaccine
  • JustTheNews: Biden energy crisis: Decreased supply, rising prices buffet America at home and on world stage
  • NewsBusters: Federalist Says ‘Biden Is the Least Accessible President in Modern History’
  • HotAir: New York bill to create internment camps for the unvaccinated pulled by sponsor
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  • Legal Insurrection: Chicago Mayor Lightfoot Asks Feds for Help to Curb Rising Crime and Violence
  • Breitbart: Poll: Half of Democrats Say Inflation Is ‘Affecting Their Family Budget’
  • New York Post: Here’s why Epstein’s massage table could land Maxwell a 40-year sentence
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  • JustTheNews: Wisconsin residents ask governor to remove DA who office set low bail for suspect in parade massacre

  • PJ Media: Democrats Want Jan. 6 to Be a Holy Day for Their Dark Church
  • NewsBusters: Worst of 2021: The Damn Those Conservatives Award
  • CNSNews: DOJ Awarding Millions to Combat Drug Abuse Crisis, But No Mention of Cross-Border Trafficking

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