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More Biden Senior Moments During ABC News Interview

23 Dec 2021

CLAY:  Joe Biden in his sit-down interview with ABC News he said he’d be happy to run against Donald Trump if his health remained good, which is a joke in and of itself.  But then he also had even in the cuts that they used on ABC more and more Biden senior moments as he confuses things, can’t make sense of anything.  Let’s play both of these cuts, cut 10 and cut 11 from the most recent Biden interviews.

MUIR:  You go to the pharmacy we hear this over and over again, empty shelves, no test kits.  Is that a failure?

BIDEN:  No, I don’t think it’s a failure.  I think it’s — you could argue that we should have known a year ago, six months ago, two months ago, a month ago.  I’ve ordered half a billion of the pills, 500 million pills — I mean, excuse me, 500 million test kits that are gonna be available to be sent to every home in America if anybody wants them.  But the answer is, yeah, I wish I had thought about ordering a half a billion pills two months ago, before covid hit here.

CLAY:  All right.  So he got pills and tests confused.  But let me just make it clear here.

The 500 million tests are worthless.  And I gotta get on my soapbox here for a moment.  Testing doesn’t solve anything because the people who are the biggest hypochondriacs out there are going to use multiple tests to try to convince themselves that they don’t have covid.  Because if you’re worried in the back of your mind, if you’re a hypochondriac and you’re convinced that you have covid, one negative test doesn’t alleviate that concern.  Two negative tests might not even alleviate that concern.  This is why Amazon has had to block purchases to 10 tests.

There are 330 million people in the United States, 500 million tests which, by the way, aren’t going to be even available until January or February might last a week in this country.  It’s not going to change anything.  And I just want to reiterate again and again, if you are sick, stay home.  Presume that you have covid and just stay home if you’re actually sick.

I’ve had the flu a dozen or more times, probably, in my life, eight, nine, 10, whatever the heck it is.  I’m 42.  Do you know how many times I’ve ever had an official flu test to confirm that I had the flu?  Zero.  Because if you feel sick, if you have a fever, stay home.  Stay home until you feel better.  This is kind of a universal sickness test that we’ve had forever.  Knowing whether or not you have Omicron as it has now become the most prevalent strain or instead if you just have a cold or the flu isn’t actually that helpful in the grand scheme of things because if you are sick, just stay home.  It’s not complex.

The idea that we’re going to test our way out of covid issues is just not true.  In fact, it’s the opposite.  Because I hear from people all the time now, you can’t even go to the emergency room, hardly, right now because so many people are obsessed with the fact that they may have covid that they’re overloading doctors in primary care facilities and emergency rooms which things that aren’t actually emergencies.

Now, if you’re really sick, go to the ER.  If you’re really injured, go to the ER.  If you have a small fever, turn on the Clay and Buck show, lay down in your bed, get some fluids, and work on getting better.  Five hundred million tests is not going to change anything.  This is madness.  And, by the way, Biden’s right, however.  If they had really been on the ball, they could have had a lot more tests done and available for everybody.  The fact that they don’t is just more evidence that Biden’s entire justification for running, which was he was going to solve covid, is a failure.

They’re now is nearly an all-time high of covid cases in this country.  Joe Biden said he was going to solve covid.  He has failed to solve covid.

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Dems Want Stacey Abrams Ready Just in Case

23 Dec 2021

CLAY: The reason, by the way, that I think the Biden administration is going to try to run again is I think they’re terrified of Kamala Harris being the nominee in ’24 because Trump or any other Republican, I believe, would absolutely destroy her. I think Democrats know that. But I think Democrats also know that they’ve painted themselves into a corner because if Kamala Harris, the sitting vice president, is not the nominee as soon as there is no longer a sitting president, then it’s going to be racist and sexist of the Democratic Party and their allies in the media that Kamala Harris isn’t the choice.

So unless they can find another minority woman who is a better political candidate than Kamala Harris, and, by the way, they would love for that person to be Stacey Abrams. That’s why she’s running in Georgia in 2022. If she wins that Georgia governor’s election, she is going to run for president, I really think that. She is going to run for president in 2024 if Joe Biden’s not running. And if it’s Kamala Harris versus Stacey Abrams in a battle for the nomination, Democrats have an excuse not to pick Kamala Harris; they can go with Stacey Abrams. Is Stacey Abrams more likable and more electable than Kamala Harris? I don’t know. We really haven’t seen Stacey Abrams on the national stage, but that’s why she’s running and essentially as governor in 2022.

Even if she loses she may run for president. Because if she loses she’s probably gonna do the same thing that she did when she lost in 2018 and say the reason why she lost even though she lost by 50,000 votes examine even though it wasn’t particularly close, she’s gonna say is because of voter suppression. That’s the angle she’s gonna play. She never conceded. And she’s become a Democratic heavyweight. That’s how you can tell the hypocrisy of this whole electoral integrity argument. Stacey Abrams is considered a patron saint of the Democrat Party right now. She never conceded and blamed the fact that the race was not fair when she lost in Georgia in 2018. And keep in mind, Stacey Abrams lost the state of Georgia by more votes than Donald Trump lost the presidency by in 2020.

You change, Trump, based on the numbers, and I understand people out there can have their own issues with the tally and the numbers and everything else. But based on the final numbers, Donald Trump lost the 2020 presidential election by around 40,000 votes. If he had won Wisconsin, lost by around 20,000, if he had won Arizona, lost by around 10, and if he had won Georgia, lost by around 10, it would have been a 269 to 269 tie in the Electoral College. And the House of Representatives would have voted and Trump would be your president right now, 40,000 votes. Even with all of the changes for covid, even with all of the mass insanity surrounding the way that we voted in 2020, 40,000 votes.

Stacey Abrams lost the state of Georgia by more votes than that. She never conceded. And she became a Democratic Party stalwart. In fact, she said everything wasn’t fair and that the race was rigged, and she is one of the faces of the Democratic Party right now. That’s how you know this whole push for electoral integrity is really just about trying to win in 2022 and 2024, not because questioning the legitimacy of an election actually undermines the democratic process because if that were true, Democrats spent Donald Trump’s entire presidency ripping the legitimacy of his election in 2016 and arguing it was predicated on Russia influence and collusion, the big lie that they told there. And they also elevated in 2018 Stacey Abrams far above where she otherwise would have been after she lost in that election cycle to Brian Kemp in Georgia.

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Biden Says He Wants to Run Against Trump in 2024

23 Dec 2021

CLAY: We got Joe Biden. Asked about whether he’s going to run in 2024 or not by David Muir of ABC News in last night’s sit down that they aired and also about whether he would like to run against Donald Trump, this is what Biden had to say.

MUIR: You said you would absolutely serve eight years, if elected. Do you plan to run for reelection?

BIDEN: Yes. But look. I’m a great respecter of fate. Fate has intervened in my life many, many times. If I’m in the health I’m in now, I’m in good health, then in fact, I would run again.

REPORTER: And if that means a rematch against Donald Trump?

BIDEN: You’re trying to tempt me now. Sure. Why would I not run against Donald Trump if he’s the nominee? That would increase the prospect of running.

CLAY: So Biden says he would welcome a competition again in 2024 against Donald Trump.

Now, there’s lots of things that can happen between now and 2024. I’m gonna talk about Kamala Harris and the difficulty that she potentially adds to this equation in the next segment. But if you start to break this down, I think it’s such an incredibly fascinating situation that we’re going to find ourselves in.

Obviously the midterms have to happen first. And if you read the tea leaves, if you look at the all the polling data, if you analyze even the number of Democratic congressmen and women who are deciding not to run again, — I should knock on wood here ’cause there’s still a long time to go, but it’s virtually impossible for me to see how the Republicans don’t end up winning back the House.

Something truly cataclysmic, probably, would have to happen in order to upset that because the House is so tight. Now, the Senate is a bit more complicated. There are a lot of moving parts. I do think the Republicans will take back the Senate as well. But that’s 2022.

As you look forward, as soon as we get the results from 2022 and probably even a little bit about that but certainly by the time you get that, you will have a lot of people start to announce officially that they are running for president early in 2023, to get ready for the primary season which begins in 2024 for who the nominee is going to be. And the first question that I have is not even directly attributable to the Biden side, because I think it’s increasingly likely that Democrats recognize that they’re in a tough spot associated with Kamala and whether she could actually be the standard-bearer for the Democratic Party. And so they’re gonna try to drag Joe Biden across the finish line, as I’ve been saying, Weekend at Bernie’s II style. And that’s gonna be the Democratic play. ‘Cause I think they’re so desperate and recognize how weak their bench is outside of Joe Biden that they’re gonna do whatever they can to ride the power of incumbency, to try to argue that Biden has done a good job even though the evidence obviously reflects that he has not.

Maybe he could even be helped a bit by a Republican Senate and a Republican House which would require him theoretically to be more moderate, because remember Bill Clinton got absolutely destroyed in 1994, and Barack Obama got absolutely destroyed in 2010, and both of those guys found ways in ’96 and in 2012 P.O. box reelected. Partly that’s a function of having to get more moderate. So Biden would potentially have that option.

When we come back I want to talk about this ’cause I think it’s a big question and a bigger question than even when the Democrats are going to do. What’s gonna happen on the Republican side? Ted Cruz hinted in an interview recently that he was really interested in running in 2024. We know that Chris Christie, for instance, is going to run, and there will be somebody who hates Trump like Liz Cheney that will try to run, and get smoked.

But what’s going to happen with Trump and how many people if Trump decides to run would actually be willing to step in the ring against him? What would that potential primary campaign look like?

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: You know how sometimes the end of the year is a good time for reflection to think about what was but also what’s coming and with the David Muir interview that he did with Joe Biden where Joe Biden effectively said, hey, I’d love to run against Trump again, “assuming that I have good health” — and, by the way, the idea that Joe Biden is in good health right now may be of all the crazy lies that they’re telling the biggest lie because we’ve got a couple of cuts that we’ll play during the course of this show that just further demonstrate that Joe Biden isn’t at the peak, to the extent that the peak was very high in the first place, of his intellectual capacity, nowhere near it. And with the stress and overwhelming nature of being president, his performance is likely to decline precipitously, unfortunately, over the next few years.

So I don’t really think his mental faculties or even his health matter that much. Democrats are gonna do whatever they can to retain power because Biden is a Trojan horse candidate. They’re able to get inside the wall with him and then undertake anything. There, my college Iliad teacher is gonna be really impressed with that analogy. But let’s kind of break this down in general.

Biden, the idea was, when he ran in 2020, implicit was I’m only gonna be a one-term guy because Joe Biden was 78 at election, he’s gonna be 82 when he’s running in 2024, and the idea was, first of all, Biden told us I’m gonna pick a woman. Remember that? It doesn’t get discussed very much, but he said right out of the gate, I’m limiting who my vice presidential candidate is going to be. Only women are in play. And really it ultimately came down that it was only minority women that were in play, and he picked Kamala Harris.

And the idea — and I think I thought it; I think a lot of you out there probably thought it — was, this was an opportunity for Joe Biden to pass the proverbial baton to Kamala Harris. Maybe he would even step down before his term was even over and allow her to potentially run as an incumbent. At worse he would not run for reelection and Kamala Harris would be the Democratic standard-bearer.

Well, she has been so bad, she has been such a disaster as vice president — remember, she dropped out of the Democratic primaries before there was even a vote taken and she was polling at virtually zero because Democrats didn’t like her, either. And now she’s saying, “Well, here’s the deal. Here’s the deal. The reason why my…” — told New York Times this, New York Times is a big profile, you know, the Washington Post had a bill profile that nailed her, CNN had a big profile that absolutely walloped her and now the New York Times has a profile. And her defense is: “The reason why the media is being so tough on me is ’cause I’m a black woman”. That’s all she’s got.

Now, of course the reality is, Kamala Harris got the vice presidential nod in the first place because she’s a black woman. So she’s able to use her race and gender to get to the vice presidency, a heartbeat away from the presidency, but as soon as anybody criticizes her, she says, oh, the reason I’m getting criticized ’cause I’m a black woman. Well, it would be certainly, I would imagine, pretty entertaining to Donald Trump ’cause Kamala Harris said, “Well, if I were a white guy, I wouldn’t be getting anywhere near the same amount of criticism. Donald Trump’s a white guy, and he’s the most criticized president in any of our lives.

Nobody has gotten worse media than Donald Trump did. That is true across the board, even if you’re a die-hard partisan Democrat you would have say, you know what? Nobody ever got savaged like Donald Trump did. The media had a field day. The Washington flipping Post put at the top of their newspaper, “Democracy Dies in Darkness” when Donald Trump was elected. The New York Times put their entire franchise, their entire existence as a newspaper behind the subscription model, and the subscription model was fundamentally funded by we’re going to attack Donald Trump as a part of the resistance. MSNBC, CNN, their entire reason for existence was to attack Donald Trump.

So pardon me when Kamala Harris says. “The media’s being really tough on me because I’m a black woman.” That ain’t true. Okay? It’s not remotely accurate. The media, first of all, isn’t even being that hard on you. Because the media is never that hard on Democrats in a general context. But you are saying and doing stupid things that allow yourself to be ridiculed.

Lester Holt was there to do a soft focus interview with you, and you claim that you had been to the border which wasn’t true and he had to correct you on it. Charlamagne tha God was there to do a soft interview on you and you lost your mind when he asked whether Joe Manchin or Joe Biden was the president of the United States.

The Wall Street Journal was there and they were doing a profile on you and the whole story of the Wall Street Journal profile was that you and Joe Biden hadn’t talked about whether you were going to run together in 2024. Remember when she did the press conference down in Central America when she made the trip down there to try to figure out — remember how many times she used the phrase “root causes”? Kamala Harris has created virtually every aspect of her negative publicity by being incompetent, by being artificial, by being not very well versed in the questions that she’s going to be asked even when they’re readily predictable and, and she wasn’t very likable when she was actually running for president and Democrats got a chance to watch her too.

It isn’t a story that the media is being tough on her. It’s that Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and the media all, when they are confronted by Kamala Harris, come away profoundly unimpressed by her. And her race and her gender, if anything, actually helped her because people are afraid that if they’re too critical of Kamala Harris, they’ll get called racist, they’ll get called sexist. That’s the reality.

The race and the gender, far from being a method of attack, is actually a shield for Kamala Harris because so many people in media and elsewhere are afraid of being called racist and sexist if they actually attack Kamala Harris. But her failure as vice president has made 2024 far more interesting. Right now if I were betting I would say that 2024 is likely to be a rematch between Donald Trump and Joe Biden. And I believe Donald Trump would win that election.

I mean, there are a lot of people who are really frustrated with Joe Biden pink that’s particularly pronounced in states like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, that were close in 2020 that I believe that Trump would win now in 2024 and I think Trump would flip Nevada, I think he could flip New Mexico, I think there are multiple states out there that were relatively close that Trump almost won in 2020 that would swing back to Trump in 2024. But the really interesting question here, to me, is not will Biden try to get dragged across the finish line, as we look forward and finish off 2021, it’s this angle of the debate: Is there someone out there that is a top candidate that will challenge Donald Trump, or are we gonna see Trump against Chris Christie and Liz Cheney and that ilk, such that Trump is the default nominee photo Republican Party no matter what? And, what does the larger Republican Party want?

Do we want a coronation, or do we want another battle. Remember, there were 17 or 19 or whatever the heck there were Republican candidates when Donald Trump became the nominee. Are we going to see something somewhat similar? Ron DeSantis get in, Tim Scott, Nikki Haley? Or will they all step back, allow Trump to run again and wait for 2028. It’s an interesting question.

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Two Positive Covid Storylines Heading into Christmas

23 Dec 2021

CLAY: Omicron. The data that is coming out of Scotland, South Africa, England as well is suggesting that it is not as dangerous as the Delta variant. This is really good news. For those of you out there who are traveling for the holiday season, who have relatives that you might be concerned about, it appears that Omicron is more contagious but less dangerous than the Delta version of the covid virus that has been spreading since the summer widely in the United States. This could mean that the variants and the mutations in covid are actually working in our favor. You hear a lot about, oh, my goodness, this is really dangerous.

If you’re not vaccinated, there’s gonna be more mutations, there’s gonna be more variants that come out. What usually happens, what often happens, based on my study, is that these viruses mutate and add new variations that tend to be less virulent as opposed to more virulent. And so, now there’s another hypothesis out there that one reason Omicron is not as dangerous is because we’ve got so much natural immunity and so many people vaccinated now. But the data reflects that hospitalizations, despite the number of people that might be infected with Omicron, and it has rapidly become the prevalent strain in the United States, it is replacing Delta.

Which is a more dangerous version of covid than it appeared Omicron is going to be. So if you want some positive news rolling into the holidays you’re probably not gonna hear a great deal of discussion about it, because everybody tends to focus on all of the negatives and all of the danger as opposed to some positives.

There are actually two really positive storylines out there about covid. One of them is that there now is a pill from Pfizer which is going to be rapidly distributed and disseminated across the United States and around the world which has a substantial impact after you’ve already gotten covid in terms of helping to keep you out of the hospital. The other one is, again, data can change, and we’ll talk about this with Alex Berenson in the third hour of the show, but data out of South Africa, data out of Scotland, and data out of England suggest that while Omicron may be more virulent, that is, it may spread easily, then it is actually far less dangerous to most people than the Delta version of covid is.

Which would mean, theoretically, that this could be really kind of fantastic in terms of helping to spread herd immunity even more far, even further than it already is, while also simultaneously spreading it with a version of the virus that’s far less likely to cause significant issues for the larger population, both in America and around the world. Again, those are early studies out of South Africa, out of England, out of Scotland. But they’re all three telling the exact same story, which is Omicron spreads easier but is actually less dangerous to everyone than the Delta version was.

And now that Omicron has become the predominant strain of covid in this country, it would suggest that as we move through the holiday season there are gonna be a lot of people who don’t feel well in not a significant way, get sniffles, just run down a little bit, but actually that could be very helpful towards finally declaring to a large extent independence from covid even for left wing mask wearing idiots who have not looked at the data.

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SCOTUS to Hear Challenges to Biden’s Vax Mandate

23 Dec 2021

CLAY: The Supreme Court is going to hear two different challenges to Joe Biden’s attempted covid vaccine mandate. This is going to be a big deal. I believe it is significant that the Supreme Court has agreed to hear these cases.

Now, I understand that a lot of you don’t follow many Supreme Court cases necessarily on an aggressive timeline like I might or other people who are interested in particular aspects of cases. But let me sort of give you a read of why I think it’s significant that the Supreme Court has agreed to hear both of these cases in early January.

Without diving into the incredibly complex nature of procedural posture in courts, circuit courts on a federal level are the highest level courts beneath the Supreme Court. And so depending on what state you’re in — for instance, I’m in Tennessee. I am a licensed attorney in Tennessee. We’re a part of the Sixth Circuit. It involves multiple different states — are in the Sixth Circuit. Southern Texas, Louisiana, other states are in the Fifth Circuit.

Well, the covid vaccine mandate has made it to the circuit court level in the Fifth Circuit. And the Fifth Circuit ruling came out and said we don’t agree with Joe Biden’s ability to implement these covid vaccine mandates through OSHA for all employers with a hundred or more people. We believe that he has overreached constitutionally and he does not have the authority to mandate this as a president under a regulatory agency like OSHA.

The Sixth Circuit, not the full Sixth Circuit, just a three-judge panel of the Sixth Circuit, disagreed with that Fifth Circuit opinion and by a 2-1 judge verdict they put back in place and said Joe Biden does have right now the constitutional authority to implement this mandate.

So we are left now is the Supreme Court has come in and taken these conflicting circuit court opinions and said we are going to determine what the law is as it persons to Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate. And I believe it is a really good sign that the Supreme Court has taken these cases. I think it is very likely that they are going to follow the same sort of rubric that they did in the cases surrounding — do you remember when the CDC was putting in place the eviction moratorium? And the Supreme Court said, no, this extends beyonds where the CDC’s powers lie, the regulatory agency is not able to have that expansive of an authority. And so they struck it down. And they also cited the fact that there would have been more legitimacy for that CDC decision if instead of it coming directly from the CDC by itself in Congress had also authorized that mandate.

And so why I think this is significant is — and I accuse touched on this a bit in the past couple of weeks — when the United States Senate voted 52 to 48 against Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate, they’re now not only are United States courts that are saying this is unconstitutional under OSHA to attempt to do it, there now is a legislative body in the Senate that has said, “We reject Joe Biden’s ability to implement this federal vaccine mandate for employers of over a hundred employees.” And so I believe this is really significant.

I think if you read the tea leaves here the Supreme Court is going to strike down Joe Biden’s mandate. Now, so far the Supreme Court has been more lenient when it comes when it comes to state and local regulations that are implemented by governors or mayors and/or even universities. But I think the federal vaccine mandate being implemented under OSHA is going to be struck down. This is a significant detail that they have taken up this case.

One way to think about it is given the Sixth Circuit ruling which was governing today, if the Supreme Court had not taken up this case, then the Sixth Circuit ruling as the highest court in the land that had ruled in that scenario would have continued to govern. A lot of times when courts take circuit court opinions and decide to rule upon them, they are inclined to overturn what the circuit court has done, not to mention you have a split in circuit court authority where the Sixth Circuit said one thing, the Fifth Circuit said another, the Supreme Court effectively, as the supreme law of the land, likely feels a necessity of coming up with a rule and a policy and an opinion that can govern the entire country.

So I wanted to mention that that is going on, that that is significant.

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Rush Reflects on What’s Really Important

23 Dec 2021

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EIB 24/7: Clay & Buck’s Stack of Stuff

23 Dec 2021

  • AlexBerenson.substack: Yet again Team Apocalypse is wrong: Omicron has already peaked in South Africa
  • FOXNews: Covid-19 omicron variant is less likely to put people in the hospital, studies suggest
  • HotAir: NYT: Let’s face it — Harris has flopped as VP
  • New York Post: Politicians looking to end-run NY clear demand for clean elections
  • Daily Caller: Trump Pushes Back When Candace Owens Doubts The Vaccine: ‘People Aren’t Dying When They Take’ It
  • ZeroHedge: “No Country Can Boost Its Way Out” – WHO Warns Biden Plan Could “Prolong” Pandemic
  • JustTheNews: FDA authorizes second pill against COVID-19 symptoms
  • Breitbart: Unvaccinated-Only Lockdown Extended in Austria for Another Ten Days
  • New York Post: ‘That’s not a plan — it’s a hope’: Biden has yet to sign contracts for promised 500M at-home COVID tests
  • New York Post: What are Omicron’s symptoms? How the variant differs from other COVID mutations
  • NewsBusters: ABC Grills Biden on Covid ‘Failure’: ‘How Did You Get It Wrong?’
  • BizPacReview: Stunning emails reveal Fauci, NIH chief discussing ‘quick and devastating take down’ of anti-lockdown experts

  • FOXNews: NY Times: Kamala Harris gripes her media coverage would be better if she was White man
  • Breitbart: Gloomy, Unappreciated Joe Biden Staffers Eying the Exits
  • Breitbart: Biden: ‘If We Don’t Pass Build Back Better,’ We Should Prepare for Rate Hikes, Potential Pain
  • Daily Wire: ‘This Crazy Human’: Elizabeth Warren Slammed After Blaming Grocery Stores For Soaring Food Prices
  • JustTheNews: Key witness: Jan. 6 panel spent more time asking about Afghan withdrawal than Capitol attack

  • New York Post: Can New York reverse its record-setting pandemic-era population drop?
  • Daily Caller: Please Stop The Coup Porn – Victor Davis Hanson
  • PJ Media: Gerrymandering and Redistricting: How It Will Shape the New Congressional Map
  • FOXNews: Dems who called for defunding police amid George Floyd protests now pivoting
  • New York Post: Two Dems who support police reform carjacked less than 24 hours apart
  • HotAir: Illinois state senator supports defund the police efforts, then karma struck
  • Daily Wire: Lightfoot’s $411 Million Crime Reduction Plan Will Fund Government Housing, Public Parks, Other ‘Holistic’ Services
  • New York Post: How public schools brainwash young kids with harmful transgender ideology – Betsy McCaughey
  • JustTheNews: Pennsylvania governor vetoes measure aimed at increasing transparency in school curriculum

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    Clay Challenges Fauci’s Idiotic Christmas Claims on Hannity

    23 Dec 2021

    On Hannity, Clay spoke with guest host Jason Chaffetz and Charles Hurt of the Washington Times about Fauci’s latest flat-out dumb proclamation that the vaccinated should bar unvaccinated family members from Christmas gatherings.

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    This May Be the Dumbest Thing Fauci Has Ever Said

    22 Dec 2021

    CLAY: Fauci was asked whether or not he would allow an unvaccinated person to attend a holiday gathering with his family. Here is what he said. Play cut 18.

    MENENDEZ: If someone in your family isn’t vaccinated, should you ask them not to show up?

    FAUCI: Yes. I would do that. I mean, I think we’re dealing with a serious enough situation right now that if there’s an unvaccinated person, I would say I’m very sorry, but not this time, maybe another time when this is all over.

    CLAY: Okay. Here’s what fires me up about this. Aside from this fact — and look. Everybody out there has to make their own decisions about what to do around Christmas, around the holidays, around New Year’s. And I can’t tell you what you should or should not do. But here’s what I would say.

    If you are a grandparent and you have been away from your grandkids for two years because you’ve been terrified of covid, what are you living for? I’m not a grandparent. I’m a parent. I could tell you that there is nothing that would have kept me away from my kids over the past two years. I would imagine that someday if I’m fortunate enough to be a grandparent, being a grandparent will be one of the most important if not the most important things in my life. I got three boys. I hope they grow up and they have kids and I hope we have tons of grandkids one day. And I hope, by the way, that I live long enough to see ’em ’cause I work so many hours now, my wife’s gonna live to be 140. I’m gonna die at 52, right? But so she’s gonna have a hundred years without me and an amazing remaining 90 years.

    But if you are making that choice to not be around your grandkids because you’re afraid of covid two years in, I think you’re a coward, frankly, and I don’t know what you’re living for. But that is your choice. That is your right. The idea that Fauci would suggest that the health even supports this idea right now is what is particularly frustrating to me about the clip and the fact that no media pushes back on him because being vaccinated does not keep you from getting or spreading covid.

    So you are selling an artificial bill of goods out there that the idea that if you are unvaccinated makes you way more significant of a risk to others. The reality is if you look at the data, unvaccinated people are primarily a danger to themselves, not to others. In other words, what Dr. Fauci is selling there is the idea that unvaccinated people are dirty, unclean, and cannot be allowed to be around the vaccinated, which is fully not supported by the scientific data at all.

    Most unvaccinated people are primarily a danger to themselves, which is typically the case with most things in life and it’s why I get so fired up when I see people who are idiots out there on social media saying, “Well, if somebody who’s unvaccinated gets covid, they don’t deserve medical treatment.”

    Well, you realize that obesity is the number one cause of preventable illness in America today. I’ve never heard somebody say, “Oh, if a fat person gets sick, they shouldn’t get coverage at a hospital because the made themselves fat and therefore skinny people should get coverage first.”

    It’s absurd. It’s ridiculous. But the fact that nobody will push back against Dr. Fauci when he says something like this is what is so frustrating. The media should exist, in my opinion, to speak truth to power and hold people accountable who seek to use their opportunity to continue to grab more and more power without having any justification for that power.

    And when we see all of these Democratic mayors — New York City, Chicago, Boston, Los Angeles, Washington, D.C., San Francisco — I’m sure there are other cities out there as well — continuing to take more and more power over vaccine mandates, I just want to step back and say, “Have you not looked at all of the data?”

    The NFL, the NBA, the NHL, they’re all almost a hundred percent vaccinated, and they’re setting record high for cases. Why is that? Because the vaccine doesn’t protect you from getting or spreading covid. We were lied to and told that that was the truth initially. Remember in the summer back in May, “Take your masks off if you’re vaccinated. You never need to wear a mask again.” And then slowly the cases continued to tick up and people said, “Uh-oh.” Turns out these vaccines, they may provide some limited amount of protection when it comes to death or serious illness, but they are vaccines in the traditional method or methodology that you and I have been taught about.

    In other words, think about this: You’re vaccinated for measles. If somebody was coming to your house and you found out that they weren’t vaccinated for measles, would you restrain them from entering your home? Of course not. Because you’re vaccinated for measles, which means you’re not going to get measles. What the covid shot is is a therapeutic that provides limited protection.

    Now, I’ve said this. Buck has said this. My parents have gotten the vaccine. They’re over 75. They got boostered. They’re over 75. If you are in ill health, if you are obese, if you are senior citizen, I think you should get every shot imaginable to help protect yourself. But if you’re a young, healthy person, your risk from covid is far less significant driving to a Christmas party than it is to actually die driving to the Christmas party. And your kids going to school are more likely to be murdered walking to school than they are to die of covid. They’re more likely to drown, they’re more likely to die of the seasonal flu. All of those things are bigger risks.

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    Coach Dick Vermeil on a Must-See Movie: American Underdog

    22 Dec 2021

    CLAY: We’ve got a guest already on the line with us. He is Super Bowl-winning coach, Dick Vermeil, who has got a movie coming out — great, fantastic movie that I’ve already watched, American Underdog, about Kurt Warner and the St. Louis Rams team that won the Super Bowl. Coach Vermeil, I’m excited to talk with you. We start here. Thanks for giving us this time and this close to Christmas. What’s it like to watch someone playing you in a movie?

    VERMEIL: Well, when you first see it — now, I’ve seen it three times, okay, and plus I was in the Invincible movie about Vince Papale a long time ago. So, I’m sort of used to it. But it makes me nervous. It makes me nervous. And when I’m all said and done, I say, “Hell, he did me better than I do myself.”

    CLAY: All right. So when I watched this movie — and full disclosures, I’m a Titans fan so I liked everything but the ending — but when I watched this movie I couldn’t help thinking, this is a perfect example of how truth is truly stranger than fiction. Because if you tried to sketch out this movie, there’s no way anyone would believe it was remotely possible that a guy who’s stocking shelves in an Iowa grocery store would end up the MVP of the league, the Rookie of the Year, and would win a Super Bowl.

    When you look back on it now — I know when you’re in the middle of it, it can feel crazy and wild, but does it seem like a remarkably improbable story to you watching even yourself, as you said, you’ve seen it three times, when you watched the story of what happened in that season?

    VERMEIL: Yeah. You know, I still shake myself when I walk out. Like you said, I’ve seen it three times. Each time I see it I like it better because it makes me think more about the whole process. You know, they didn’t include his very first year with us as the third quarterback coming out of the Arena League because the movie would have been too long and they did a great job of condensing it. But each time I look at it I go back and — you know, first off, it had never happened before. And secondly, it will probably never happen again. And he made it happen. But it’s more than a story about a quarterback. It’s a life story.

    CLAY: Yes.

    VERMEIL: Struggles, you know, both husband and wife and the whole process. And so I think it will stimulate people emotionally because they’ll be able to relate to some period in their life they went through something maybe not as drastic, but pretty close to it and they battled through it and made it or they didn’t make it and had to take a different avenue. So I think there’s something for everybody. It’s far more than a football story.

    CLAY: For people out there who don’t know this story, let me give ’em a quick synopsis. You are the head coach of the St. Louis Rams in the NFL, right?

    VERMEIL: Right. My second year there.

    CLAY: Second year there. You’ve got Trent Green as your starting quarterback. The expectation is that Trent Green, you got a lot of talented people that are Hall of Fame caliber or Hall of Fame guys like Isaac Bruce, like Marshall Faulk on your team.

    VERMEIL: Right.

    CLAY: Trent Green has a devastating knee injury in the preseason and suddenly in comes Kurt Warner ,who had been playing in the Arena Football League, who had gone to a small school in Iowa and who was in his upper twenties and it appeared maybe football had passed him by. So, that’s the background.

    So, I want ask you this about Kurt Warner. How did you come to end up with Kurt Warner on your team, who convinced you to take him, and did you believe that he could be a starting quarterback in the league?

    VERMEIL: Well, first off, he was recommended to me by a coach that I knew from California. He had been the coach at San Diego State. Anyway, I knew him and he had been recommended to me, Charlie Armey, our personnel director, and John Becker, our college scout director, and we brought him in for a workout.

    Now, this was the year before the Super Bowl thing, ’cause he was actually there a full year coming out of the Arena League as our third quarterback. And once we signed him he worked him out like — it wasn’t a dazzling work out, but we needed depth so we signed him and sent him to Europe to play in the NFL Europe league, and he played 10 games over there and he played well. Then he came back and he became our third quarterback for 16 games. He didn’t play in a game until the last game of the season when we were getting beat, we put him in in the fourth quarter, I think he threw the ball 10, 15 times and completed four. That was it.

    Then we make him our second quarterback coming into my third year at the Rams, his second year but we have signed Trent Green as a free agent to be our starting quarterback and built what we thought was gonna be a real good football team, probably a playoff team, around him. Well, he gets hurt in a preseason game and, lo and behold, we go with Kurt Warner.

    We all thought Kurt could play, from having watched him as our third quarterback throw ball against our defensive team in preparation for our next opponent. You know, and he threw the ball well but you always say when you walk off the field, well, you know, it’s not game day, it’s not 80,000 people in the stands, he probably couldn’t play this well in a regular game. Wrong, we were wrong.

    So, all of a sudden he’s our starter going into the first game of the season against the Ravens, and from then on he wrote his own story. He wrote his own story. No quarterback in the history of the league started out like he did. He threw three touchdowns in the first game, three touchdown passes in the second game, three touchdown passes in the third game, five touchdown passes in the fourth game, one touched on pass in the sixth game, three more in the next game. No one had ever done that. 18 touchdowns, three pass interceptions in the first six games. No one had ever done that the first time starting.

    So at that time, you know, we said you know something? This guy’s special. He’s got it. And he went on and played us so well he carried us into the Super Bowl and then won it. He was the MVP in the Super Bowl. Never happened before. It will probably never happen again.

    CLAY: What makes deciding whether a guy can be a good quarterback so hard?

    VERMEIL: Well, you know, sometimes it’s observation, with me. I always go on what I see, not so much what I think other people think and sometimes what other people see. I’ve been very, very fortunate in my long coaching career both in high school, junior college, college, and pro football, of always having a quarterback who could really play, from an All-American, you know, to all pro, to NFC player of the year in Jaworski, to the most valuable player in the league in — you know, in Kurt Warner.

    I’ve just been lucky, and I’ve gone on what I see and my hunches and my gut feelings about watching people when they compete and they compare. So I would say he just — first off, I’m not bright enough to say I could predict he was gonna do what he did. But I thought he would play, and I thought he would play well.

    CLAY: This movie is coming out for Christmas. There have been early previews that are already out, American Underdog. You’ve watched it three times. I’ve watched it as well. It’s a tremendous family movie. Kurt and his wife, Brenda, have a tremendous relationship between the two of them. For people out there — I know you’ve got kids and grandkids yourself — what do you think families can take from the story of Kurt and Brenda Warner and the rise to a Super Bowl championship? There’s football in the story, but it’s about a lot more than football.

    VERMEIL: Oh, yeah. You know, it’s a story of persistence, a story of deep belief and faith in yourself, a story, a commitment to meet a life’s dream and, you know, a tremendously deep belief in what you thought you could do. And he would not allow, Kurt would not allow anybody to write him off.

    They tried to write him off in college. He didn’t start until part of the season his fifth year I think it was or senior year, you know, in Iowa, Northern Iowa. And then of course he had to go — he goes to Green Bay, he gets a blink there, he didn’t get drafted, and they cut him right off the bat. He knew he wasn’t ready, but they saw he wasn’t ready. He was very conscientious, and he didn’t want to do things he didn’t do well. Anyway, he didn’t impress them, they let him go, he ends up in the Arena League, and he takes them all the way to the championship game in the Arena League, the Iowa Barnstormers. And all this is included in the buildup to ending up with the St. Louis Rams.

    But the fans, nonfootball fans and football fans are gonna enjoy it because, like I said earlier, it’s more a life story, you know, and people are going to be able to identify with it.

    CLAY: Talking to coach Dick Vermeil who won a Super Bowl with Kurt Warner in an amazing story a little over 20 years ago. Coach, I heard a great story about you and how committed you were to the time that it takes to be an excellent coach. I want to find out if it’s true, that you and your wife were flying one time and you were watching on the screen there inside of the plane a television show, and you were watching it, and you were really laughing, and you eventually turned to your wife and you’re like, “Man, this show is really good,” and your wife said, “Yeah, Coach, it’s Seinfeld. It’s one of the most famous shows ever,” and you had never heard or seen the television show Seinfeld. Is that a true story?

    VERMEIL:  That’s true.

    CLAY: So, you are committed so much — ’cause I think a lot of people out there who don’t spend a lot of time around coaches, the amount of hours and the amount of effort and focus that it requires to be really good with your team, you almost have to have blinders on in terms of the larger cultural landscape.

    VERMEIL: Well, you almost hit it right on the nail. I said I was blindly committed to being the best football coach I could be, blindly committed. And what my problem was I allowed the passion to become an obsession. And then I had to leave the game.

    I didn’t anticipate leaving it for 14 years, but I was so fortunate that John Shaw and Georgia Frontiere and Jay Zygmunt, the Rams organization wanted me to coach their football team so I went back after 14 seasons. The best decision — second best decision I probably ever made in my life.

    CLAY: So, Coach, what burned you out the first time? ‘Cause I think it’s such a fascinating question. What burned you out the first time, and had you learned by the second time that allowed you to achieve a different level, almost, of success? What occurred that made you a better coach the second time that you didn’t know the first time?

    VERMEIL: Well, the first time I allowed losing to affect me so much, I spent too much time after the loss evaluating why I lost, which interfered from my preparation to prepare my team to play for the next win. And in my own personal evaluation, I could see I wasn’t doing a good job after I lost the next one or maybe squeaked out a win. And it just kept snowballing on me. I just couldn’t, you know, handle all that kind of stuff after seven years as a head coach of the Eagles. And people told me I wasn’t pushing myself too hard. And — but I wouldn’t listen.

    When I came back, obviously, after 14 years out, I couldn’t be my own offensive coordinator, I couldn’t be my quarterback coach and call all the plays on game day. I was the head coach. But what I had learned is decide one of the most important things for a leader in an organization to do and then surround yourself with people could do these other things that you don’t do because you’re the leader of the organization and then back ’em — provide them in the football you provide ’em with an organization that supports ’em properly, that gives ’em the right kind of personnel, that gives a player a sense of discipline and a sense of process — and excitement about being in the environment he’s playing in. And you go from there.

    See, I tried to do all that in one shell all the way through, you know, high school, junior college, college, and then on into the pro football, and I ran out of gas doing that in pro football. When I went back, I was a better overall leader of the total process and building the culture, from the ownership right on through the organization to the fourth-string player on your football team.

    CLAY: He’s Dick Vermeil. The movie is American Underdog. It is fantastic. Coach, have a great Christmas. We appreciate you taking some time with us this morning.

    VERMEIL: Well, I sure hope the fans take the time to go see it. It’s gonna be the best Christmas present they buy themselves.

    CLAY: Outstanding stuff. Thanks, Coach.

    VERMEIL: Thank you.

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