Narrative Over Facts in Kenosha and Waukesha

22 Nov 2021

BUCK: Let’s start from the very top, so to speak, with Biden and Kamala Harris. This verdict comes down, and it was very clear from the video evidence, the testimony, everything, that Kyle Rittenhouse engaged in self-defense. Here’s what Kamala Harris says about this very obvious and proper and just verdict.

HARRIS: The verdict speaks for itself. As many of you know, I spent a majority of my career working to make the criminal justice system more equitable and clearly there’s a lot more work to do. Thanks.

BUCK: The verdict does not speak for itself. I mean, she’s clearly dodging and pandering at the same time, Clay.

CLAY: Just like Biden did, Buck, because initially Joe Biden came out and actually said something somewhat normal which was, hey, we have to respect — I’m paraphrasing — decisions juries in the United States justice system. And then later he came out with a public statement where he said he was horrified — and again I’m paraphrasing — incredibly troubled and angered by the verdict.

And so this to me is what goes on. Joe Biden I think in general is a fairly, at times, reasonable person. I don’t think that Joe Biden controls anything that happens in the White House now because I think he talked and gave that answer and immediately all of the left-wing loons were upset that Biden had not condemned the verdict.

By the way, Biden already called Rittenhouse a white supremacist, something that he should apologize for and I think ties in with that awful situation of the people who were killed, murdered by the driver in suburban Milwaukee, which we’ll get to much more, I would imagine, during the course of this show.

But, Buck, this is all part-and-parcel of narrative trumping facts and what goes on in America today. Everyone on the left wing, as soon as Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people in self-defense. Because we now know that he did it in self-defense. The jury has looked at all evidence, you and I looked at all the evidence, we told our audience that the evidence reflected that this was just a self-defense case, that there was no racial element for it at all. They immediately brand him a white supremacist, even though the people he shot were white, even it was self-defense.

Look at what’s going on in the situation in Wisconsin right now where the black driver plowed through a Christmas parade and killed multiple people. We are immediately told by the same people this does not involve race at all. And this is what gets me so fired up, Buck. Almost immediately every single time an incident happens in America now, it is “race” that is to blame. And when it is a white guy, it is immediately evident, no matter what the white guy’s motivation might have been, that America is an awful, racist, white supremacist-laden, horrible country rooted in systemic inequality that demands equity.

You saw this, Buck. We were texting about it over the weekend. CNN comes out and says, the biggest threat in America today is angry white men, right? This is a storyline that is immediately propagated whether race is involved at all. When any other race is involved, the story gets memory holed and it’s as if it never occurred, race had nothing to do with it at all time after time after time, which is why people are so skeptical of so much of the media, because it’s narrative over fact.

BUCK: You particularly see the battle, Clay, that you’re describing, the battle for the truth, really, that you’re describing in cases involving terrorism in the past.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And I used to do this — I’ve done it many, many times at Fox, at CNN. And what you get from the lib perspective — so when you go on CNN, you always know, to your point, if it is a white shooter or a white assailant, there is zero expectation of waiting for the facts to come in, zero demand that we don’t know the true motivations here.

Meanwhile, when you have a nonwhite attacker, terrorist, whatever it may be in a situation like this, a very high profile, mass casualty event, immediately you’re told not only wait for the facts but then it very quickly turns into, you can almost see the transition happening in real time, we may never know the motive, Clay.

And I just want to give some examples of how absurd that has been in the past. I want to be very clear, there’s nothing to suggest this was a jihadist incident but I’m gonna talk about the narrative games they play in the media in the past with incidents like this.

Pulse nightclub shooting. We had transcripts of that guy saying I’m doing this for ISIS and for Allah and for, you know, Islamic Jihad, whatever. The FBI excised words from the transcript. And you still had people saying, “Well, was it a hate crime or was it actually jihad? We may never know the narrative.” They play this we may never know the narrative game in ways that are insulting to all of our intelligence.

This incident here in Waukesha, how often does a bank robber who trying to get away — ’cause they’re telling us there was a stabbing incident. We’ll have more information later on in the show did a press conference — but a stabbing incident. How often does a bank robber, let’s say, decide that they’re gonna try to escape and they’re not — this is not in Midtown Manhattan. This is in a small town in Wisconsin. They’re gonna drive through a parade as part of their panic escape attempt? I’m sorry. That’s asking us believe too much.

Is it possible that he was trying to escape, saw this parade and then lost it and decided I’m gonna run down — there was actually a group called the Dancing Grannies that were among the casualties here. That, to me, is possible. But that this was all some accident, heat of the moment, he was just driving? Absolutely not.

CLAY: Well, here’s the way to think about it, Buck. And I always on this show I believe every single day we are red pilling more people because they are looking at the media and they are saying this doesn’t add up, what we are being told is artificial. If a black group parade had been going on and if a white guy had been fleeing some smaller, lesser crime and he had plowed through the black parade, right? A parade let’s say it’s celebrating — let’s say it’s a predominately black institution, they’re having —

BUCK: If it were a Kwanzaa parade, for example.

CLAY: Anything that could be going on, with anyone in the left wing of the media be willing to say, “Oh, race is not involved in any way in this incident. It just so happened that a white criminal who has a long record of checkered behavior was fleeing this, and he drove right through a black parade, wounded dozens of people, killed many, and race was not involved in any way.”

And remember, Buck, this guy, this black guy who drove through the parade in Waukesha, this guy had BLM support in his past, right?

BUCK: On Facebook, yes, he identified social media account.

CLAY: He also had published some rap songs that were very much anti-Donald Trump, right? What I’m saying is if there were anything associated with this white guy in his past that anybody could identify that were in any way race related, it would immediately be characterized as a hate crime, it would be evidence of how unsafe America is with these white terrorists, domestic terrorists running everywhere, the FBI and the DOJ has to investigate them more. That is the story, and everybody out there listening knows that would be the story on CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, all of them would be running with it a hundred percent.

BUCK: They’re allowed to rush to judgment.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: And never apologize for it, and then they use the apparatus of the media to essentially threaten everybody from just coming to basic conclusions in the early stages because delaying the public’s recognition of what this is is part of the narrative creation.

If we find out this guy’s motivation next week, if they finally say, “Yeah, the turns it he actually decided that he was gonna mow down some people ’cause he was angry, let’s say, about Kenosha,” or whatever the reason may be, that’s obviously one the people have put out there, it doesn’t have the same impact a week or two later. They’ve moved on to other stories. So delaying the narrative is really just a means of trying to lessen the impact.

CLAY: Memory hole. It memory holes it.

BUCK: It memory holes it. That’s exactly what they do so many times in the past. And I’m just gonna say this.

You can see on the video, the way they’re reporting this, it makes it sound like this guy was traveling at high speed down an alleyway and just happened to find… Oh, no, he ran into a parade full of purpose. That is not what appears on the video. He lined up behind hundreds of people packed together walking in a parade down the middle of the street and mows dozens of them down, dozens of them. Police shot at him to try to stop him from mowing people down.

This wasn’t a car accident because a guy was fleeing during a bank robbery. Something else happened here, and I’m not gonna let, and I know you’re not gonna let, the lib media get away with acting like we’re all too stupid to see that something doesn’t add up, at a minimum, what they’re telling us. And I think it’s a lot worse than that. I think we’re gonna find a lot throughout the course of the day that supports the narrative that the left the doesn’t want us to hear or to know.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: We are supposed to believe that this individual, Darrell Brooks, fled an incident and then happened to find himself at the one place where there was the greatest concentration of people on the street possible, the most helpless, defenseless, innocent civilians possible, and on video. And people have seen it. I’ve seen it. It’s horrific. Be forewarned. It’s tough to watch.

He clearly lines up the car and then just starts mowing people down. He doesn’t blast through an intersection and doesn’t see who’s there, something else. He pulls up behind them, lines eminent domain up, mows people down, dozens of them, already killed five, probably more are going to succumb to their wounds, including the old and children. Notice who you I didn’t wait at all before Rittenhouse was a terrorist, a domestic terrorist, an insurrectionist, a white supremacist, all the way up to the top of the Democrat Party.

Meanwhile, here we are, Clay, being told, don’t say anything, don’t jump to any conclusions. If you do, we’ll hold you accountable, we’ll shut you down, but there’s an obvious double standard here with one side gets to just say whatever they want and try to score political points against Kyle Rittenhouse.

Right now, I just want to know what happened. I’m actually not interested in scoring my points but I have a very hard time believing that this suspect, Darrell Brooks, career criminal, including I believe on the sex offender registry, just happened to be evading and got to this place because an over these people. I do not believe that.

CLAY: It’s also, Buck, how often do you see a situation where someone is fleeing something relatively minor and they decide to commit a crime that is infinitely higher, right?

BUCK: Mass murder. This is mass murder.

CLAY: Mass murder, right? I mean, there’s a big difference between, oh, you had knife and you weren’t supposed to have that night, or candidly you commit a robbery or you commit a burglary or whatever it might be and you drive your vehicle at a high rate of speed through defenseless people and mow them down, dozens of them. If he’s fleeing — and I’m not an expert on fleeing from police. I hope I never have to do it, right? But I’ve watched a lot of movies, Buck. He’s pulling up near a crowded parade. If he parks his car, gets out and just gets into the crowded parade on foot, he probably can get away, right? Cecause there’s hundreds of people in that parade.

How many times have you seen a movie scene where somebody is fleeing from police and they pull up in a crowded area and just disperse into the crowd and vanish? If his goal is to flee, the least possible way to avoid drawing attention to yourself is to drive through a parade mowing down people, driving over them, killing them. You know that you’re going to get more attention that way. The logic just doesn’t add up in any way.

BUCK: And you’re going to be caught.

CLAY: No doubt.

BUCK: I don’t think that this guy could have believed for one second, I’m gonna run over dozens of people in this town where the whole town is focused on this parade and then I’m gonna make any escape from the knife incident? It doesn’t add up.

Now, here’s what I think they’re going to say. Maybe he did have some kind of a breakdown of rage in the aftermath of the Rittenhouse verdict. As you pointed out — and this is already — talking to a friend, reporter this morning said, yes, they have social media places, yes a lot of BLM stuff on the pages.

CLAY: Anti-Trump, anti-Jewish.

BUCK: A lot of bad stuff.

CLAY: If this had existed for Rittenhouse, right, if there had been anti-Kamala Harris postings, anti-Joe Biden postings, it would have been out immediately and it would have been like, oh, look at this white supremacist. Here’s his Facebook post. It’s clear what happened.

BUCK: Right. So now they’re gonna tell us that somehow this guy ends up fleeing the other incident and running into this crowd and getting away. I mean, if the facts we’ve already said were different here, there would already be conclusions being brawn. And even if the conclusions were wrong, let me add as they were about Rittenhouse, they wouldn’t care. They wouldn’t care. Right now, though, the game is anyone on the right goes too far or anyone says anything that turns out not to be true and they being held up as the disinformation person.

CLAY: Basically any white guy does anything bad and it’s evidence of white supremacy, immediately. So anybody else and it’s not evidence of anything other than their being a poor decision-maker.

BUCK: So here is what they don’t want anyone to think, that this guy in any way had animus because of the Kenosha verdict or just animus against white people in general that resulted in him hitting the accelerator and mowing everybody down. ‘Cause the left doesn’t want to have to deal with that incident. What they’re going to tell you is he was fleeing and he has probably, you know, a history of some kind of either substance abuse or mental illness, maybe he was high and he completely lost his bearings and — that’s what I think they’re going to tell you. And I’m just saying if that is what they say, Clay, I do not accept that that is what happened. If that is the storyline, that he just got disoriented and mowed down all these people, no. No. Not credible. It’s just not credible.

CLAY: Well, and this is where we are, right? And this is why in many ways I think the media, particularly the left-wing in this country has become such a divisive force, because what happens — you know this, Buck. As soon as this story came out, the question was, who is going to be to blame here? If it had been a white guy, then immediately the left wing would have said this is how toxic white supremacy is in America. Look at what just happened in Waukesha. And as soon as it comes out, oh, it’s a black guy who does it then there’s no reason to discuss any motive other than this the guy who made bad decisions going after in his life. That’s the way this works.

BUCK: If people want to know what Democrats are really thinking about — some of them, obviously just some of them, but this is someone who is a social media manager for the Democratic Party of DuPage County, Illinois, she went on to say in the media aftermath of this mass murder, mass casualty incident, quote, “It was probably just self-defense, #KyleRittenhouse.”

So just understand there are lunatics running around who are tying it to Rittenhouse already, but not in ways that any sane human being would ever do.

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Notice how smug moron libs will constantly tweet and spout off on tv about Rittenhouse as “racist”- but will never show up anywhere to debate the case or defend their smears in a public forum

There’s a reason for this.

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BUCK: We are moments away from knowing the fate of Kyle Rittenhouse in this trial, moments away. Any second now you’ll know.

THE COURT: Will the defendant rise, face the jury and hearken to its verdicts?

JURY FOREMAN: State of Wisconsin versus Kyle Rittenhouse. As to the first count of the information Joseph Rosenbaum, we, the jury, find the defendant, Kyle H. Rittenhouse, not guilty. As to the second count of the information, Richard McGinnis, we, the jury, find the defendant, Kyle H. Rittenhouse, not guilty. As to the third count of the information, unknown male, we, the jury, find the defendant, Kyle H. Rittenhouse, not guilty. As to the fourth count of the information, Anthony Huber, we, the jury, find the defendant, Kyle H. Rittenhouse, not guilty. As to the fifth count of the information, Gaige Grosskreutz, we, the jury, find the defendant, Kyle H. Rittenhouse, not guilty.

THE COURT: Members of the jury, are these your unanimous verdicts?

VOICE: Yes.

THE COURT: Is there anyone who does not agree with the verdicts as read?

BUCK: Not guilty on all charges.

Here’s the jury verdict in the Rittenhouse trial. pic.twitter.com/4kAELPqm5i

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CLAY: All counts, Kyle Rittenhouse served, he just collapsed, crying, Kyle Rittenhouse did in the courtroom, all five charges not guilty. He’s now embracing his attorney, still crying in the courthouse, overcome with emotion. This means for everybody out there, this case is forever over .

BUCK: It means justice survived in America. It means that self-defense is a real thing. It means that there is some hope you can get a real trial in this country even when the leftist mob wants to come after you. Clay, if I could do a backflip, I would do a backflip because, God bless America, this kid got justice, despite the leftist mob, despite all the insanity and all the threats and all the media lies, he goes home a free man, not guilty on all charges. Never has to sit through this nightmare again. It’s a great day, folks, a great day in America.

CLAY: I agree. I think we have to commend the jury which has been under immense pressure, four days of deliberations. I’m sure there will be stories that will be written about exactly what was said during the course of this process. Maybe we should go back. The judge is addressing the courtroom right now and see if we can pick up what he’s saying.

THE COURT: They have been allowed to present presentations to you that you’ll get in writing and it’s entirely up to you whether you want to contact them. They are not to contact you. If anyone does contact you and just tell them you’re not interested in discussing it, if that’s the case. And if anyone persists in doing so, report that to us and it will be addressed, I assure you.

At the beginning of the trial, there was some concern about information and your safety. And I assure you that we will take every measure to ensure that that is — your concerns are addressed and respected. And I’m gonna talk to you for just a minute not about anything to do with the case, but just about that sole issue. And, as I say, you’re welcome to discuss the case as little or as much as you want. Any questions, anybody? Thank you so much.

CLAY: Judge Schroeder is addressing right now the jury and letting them know basically what obligations and responsibilities they have going forward.

Now, not guilty on all charges, Buck. The question is, what is going to happen now in Kenosha? Will there be sort of spasms of anger? That there was any need for the 500 National Guard troops who’ve been called out by the governor of Wisconsin to preserve order? What will the scene be like in Kenosha, Wisconsin, as a result of this verdict which for those of you getting in your car just released, Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha, Wisconsin, not guilty on all five charges? This case is over.

BUCK: We’ll come back to more on this in a moment, the aftermath of this trial, justice done here, folks. We were a little worried there for a couple days, but justice done.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: We are reacting in real time as Kyle Rittenhouse has been found not guilty on all charges. Makes me feel good as a lawyer in the American judicial system, that these 12 jurors listened to the facts in the case. They were not led astray by all of the lies in the media, by all of the attacks on Kyle Rittenhouse, including the president of the United States, who called Kyle Rittenhouse a white supremacist in the presidential campaign. Disgraceful performance by Joe Biden, disgraceful by many people, frankly, at CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, the Washington Post, all of whom proclaimed Kyle Rittenhouse was guilty.

Our judicial system never has been and never will be perfect because it is created by men. And everything that men create is flawed. But we have the greatest judicial system in the history of the world. And based on all the facts that were presented to this jury in this case, they got the right result. They were willing to stand up for truth and justice, even in the face of potential mob response and attacks on them.

Buck, in conjunction with the election results that we saw a couple of weeks ago, I feel like America is coming to its senses and that truth and justice still matter, they still reign supreme, and that facts ultimately determine outcomes, not emotion and not crazy lies spread by left-wing propagandists.

BUCK: This is enormously consequential because if there had been — and we saw all the information, all the evidence, everything put forward here. It was clearly self-defense, so much so that you’ll recall, and Clay I’ve been saying this now for weeks — my initial position was they never should have even brought charges. We shouldn’t have Kyle Rittenhouse facing life in prison at trial, that that alone was an abuse.

CLAY: You saw the prosecutors here violating core principles of their profession, ethical standards thrown asunder. Why? Because the Democrat left wanted to make an example of Kyle Rittenhouse. They initially lied about him as a racist, including the actual now president of the United States who, back to Buck’s Biden principle, is a jerk. He’s not a good guy, folks. Just ’cause he says folksy a lot and just because he pretends that he rolls up his sleeves and cares about, you know, kitchen table issues, Joe Biden’s a jerk. He called him a white supremacist. He and many others in the Democrat media maligned this kid.

And the mob, the leftist mob was threatening this jury, was threatening this judge trying to pressure injustice to occur with violence in the background, after the left created the violence of Kenosha in the first place. And the system held. That’s what everybody can at least take some comfort or solace in today.

BUCK: It’s not over, folks. We still have a crazy left wing anarchist BLM movement in this country that wants to kick us apart, that wants to kick at the load-bearing walls of our civilization. But, Clay, there is still such a thing in America, even in politically charged cases, as self-defense, as standing athwart the mob and yelling, “This is a line you shall not cross.” That is really meaningful.

CLAY: I think it’s massively important. And, Buck, don’t mistake what message this also sends to other prosecutors across the country. They believed that the tide of vigilantism and mob rule justified charges being brought in the Kyle Rittenhouse case.

This will give pause — I really do believe this — to other prosecutors that are looking at cases that might be somewhat similar to this in the future to recognize that juries are willing and able to stand up against all of this. And you know, they dropped the one charge on gun possession, but to run the table and go not guilty on all five counts is remarkable.

And I just commend the bravery of these jurors, none of whom we know, for doing their duty as Americans and getting us to the right place here with this result.

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BUCK: We said we’d take some calls. We want to do that now. We’ve got John in Savannah, Georgia, one of my favorite places to visit for a weekend. What’s up, John?

CALLER: Hey, Buck, how are you?

BUCK: Good. What’s on your mind?

CALLER: Hey, I just wanted to know, you’ve got — you have two trials, rather one that just finished, one that’s going on close to me in Brunswick, Georgia. What do you think the outcome’s going to be? Both are using self-defense and you’ve had video prominently used in both trials. What do you think the outcome’s going to be with the jury’s decision and what do you think might happen depending on what happens in Kenosha over the next couple of days, tonight, and going forward —

BUCK: I’ll speak for myself and then I’ll let Clay because we haven’t really dealt with the — I’m not as — I became very up on and was reading transcripts of and obviously watching a lot of the Kyle Rittenhouse trial. I am familiar with the basics of the Ahmaud Arbery trial but I need to dive into it more this weekend and now I have the time to do so. Clay, how about you?

CLAY: Same, Buck. I mean, I was all-in on Rittenhouse. We paid a lot of attention to it. The Arbery trial I’m, frankly, not as plugged in on and so I don’t even feel comfortable giving a prediction. By the way, one other unique thing with this show, we’ll tell you if we don’t think we have a strong enough opinion and enough data.

Let me say this, by the way, Buck. In the last couple of minutes Joe Biden has said, asked about the verdict, “I didn’t watch the trial. I stand by what the jury has concluded. The jury system works, and we have to abide by it.” We’ll see whether or not —

BUCK: That’s about the most —

CLAY: Tepid.

BUCK: — whatever — yeah, the most boilerplate you can imagine. How about justice was done in America today and we should all respect — oh, no. Oh, no. Not from Joe Biden. John in Savannah, thanks, we will — Clay and I will look more on the Ahmaud Arbery trial over the weekend. Mike in Cypress Gardens, Florida. Hey, Mike.

CALLER: Yes, sir. How you doing today?

BUCK: Good.

CALLER: I am still very concerned. And here’s the reason why. Even though Kyle Rittenhouse was found innocent for defending himself, what I want to know is, is dropkick man, who knocked him down to the ground to begin with, then the skateboard man that tried to bash his brains in, then pistol man, who admitted he pointed the pistol at Kyle Rittenhouse while he was on the ground, my concern is — and I already know the answer to my questions — are they ever gonna be charged with aggravated assault or anything else like that? And my answer is no. And I think that’s the problem. Until these people are found responsible for their actions, they’re just gonna keep doing it. And they don’t care if they die. They don’t care. This battle is not over.

CLAY: Well, I think the bigger picture question here is — and this is one the caller from Brunswick I think just asked — what is the reaction gonna be in Kenosha? Is the looting, pillaging, burning, rioting scenes that we saw from last summer, has that now been extinguished because Joe Biden is president? And the discussion we had earlier, Buck, is, you can’t blame Donald Trump for the violence that ensues now. It’s on Biden. Will that lead to a resurgence in violence? Or is it going to be relatively muted, that is, the response to Rittenhouse and potentially with Arbery?

I’ll also say this. Black Lives Matter is not going to be as active when white assaulters are killed here. I think the reaction if Ahmaud Arbery’s — if the guys who are charged with killing Ahmaud Arbery would be different because there you have the black victim, here there’s no black victim.

BUCK: If you had had a black victim, you would have no video evidence, Kyle Rittenhouse would be spending the rest of his life in prison, most likely. That’s the reality I think of how this would have those two things together, it would — because of the narrative, because the way, the prosecutors were, it is amazing actually didn’t, I’m glad, obviously, this was the just verdict. They didn’t get a mistrial considering some of the things that they did. They were going with everything they could to stack the deck. They were trying every kind of play around the edges and even dirty trick to make Kyle Rittenhouse look worse. I think they should be up on sanctions, honestly. I think the prosecutors were really skating around the edges.

CLAY: Yeah, I think what they’ll be held by is the fact that it took four days. I mean, I thought this might be a 45-minute jury — I mean, candidly I think I said on the show, like, I expect for the jury to come back quickly. It’s what the Kyle Rittenhouse defense attorney said. And I will say this, Buck, ’cause I started coughing when I was gonna try to say it earlier. They took a lot of onus off the judge ’cause I think this judge wanted to grant a mistrial but what he wanted to do instead of grant a mistrial was have a verdict —

BUCK: Let the jury decide.

CLAY: — took it out of his hands and all the criticism of the judge is going to vanish now because the jury unanimously agreed this not-guilty verdict.

BUCK: This is a reminder for all the system can work, but our system can only work if people of courage, honor, and conviction are willing to do what it takes within the system. We need good people. We need people that will actually do their civic duty with seriousness, with decency, with kindness, and that’s this jury I think in a lot of ways representative of the best of us. We want to get to Margaret in New Jersey, what do you got for us?

CALLER: Thank you so much for taking my call. I have to say that I am holding my breath and I am praying that this weekend is a peaceful weekend because I’m really worried about our country. I feel that he had a fair trial. I thought the judge was impartial. And this is justice. This is our country. This is what we’re founded on. And the fact that we have to sit here and fear that people are going to disagree with this verdict is really sad. I’m worried and I’m sad. And I’m happy at the same time. I’m glad that he received a fair trial. That’s how I feel.

BUCK: Margaret, we appreciate that. I have the same sense here. I do not believe it is highly likely that there will be really widespread riots in Kenosha, at least, in response to this, but I don’t know. And we will certainly be watching this over the weekend. But at least the right verdict came down, at least justice was done, and we shall see how it goes from there.

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CLAY: We bring in now Congressman Jim Jordan from the great state of Ohio. Congressman, are you watching? What was your reaction when you saw and/or heard about this verdict?

REP. JORDAN: I was not watching. I was on a plane, but as soon as it landed I got information from our office. My reaction is God bless America. Our system works. Due process works. This is a win for freedom. This is a win for facts, for truth. It’s a win for the Second Amendment. This is good for our country where that jury was not intimidated. They looked at the facts, they looked at the evidence, and, you know, if that wasn’t self-defense, what is? What is? So, no, I think this is good for our great system and our great country.

CLAY: There’s also a lot of people in Congress, the president of the United States, who already prejudged, Congressman. We played a clip of a lot of people in media calling him a murderer, school shooter, 17-year-old vigilante, teenage domestic terrorist, deeply racist murderer. What does it say about them to have this jury repudiate all of their attacks upon Rittenhouse?

REP. JORDAN: I think it says — what it says is this is how good our country is. ‘Cause in spite of this the jury got to the truth. I see this much like this other issue that, frankly, you’re involved in, this issue where the Department of Justice is trying to chill the speech of parents and they’re trying to force their beliefs on the country and regular moms and dads are saying no, you’re not. You’re not gonna do that. And this — the folks in Wisconsin in that courtroom on that jury said, “No, you’re not. We’re gonna do what the facts say, what the truth says.”

I see this as such a positive — and I think there’s a change happening, Clay. I said this when Merrick Garland was in front of our committee. I said your actions when you tried to treat parents as domestic terrorists — and we may get into that, I said, it is a catalyst, it’s the last straw, it is the start of a reawakening in this country for freedom, for liberty, for the principles that make our country the best. And you’re seeing it happen, and it is so darn encouraging.

BUCK: Hey, Congressman Jordan, it’s Buck. And I just want to follow up on the attitude as well. I mean, there’s the FBI that, you know, put out the stuff, I mean, the Merrick Garland AG letter and now the FBI, according to that whistleblower complaint — I saw that letter. We read some of it on air that you put out about using terrorism tags for concerned parents. I mean, this is dystopian level insanity. But it’s very clear that there really is a sentiment among the left in this country that parents should just shut up.

I mean, here’s a piece on NBC News that just went up in the last 24 hours, an opinion piece. But he’s part of it. “Parents think they have the right to control teaching and learning because their children are the ones educated. It’s sort of like entering a surgical unit thinking you can interfere with an operation because the parent is your child.” Wow. I hope every Democrat across America takes that approach going into these midterms.

Christina Wyman: Parents think they have the right to control teaching and learning because their children are the ones educated. It’s sort of like entering a surgical unit thinking you can interfere with an operation because the patient is your child. https://t.co/XD38WODQus

— NBC News (@NBCNews) November 19, 2021

REP. JORDAN: Yeah. No. But when they think we’re all deplorables, when they think we’re all racists, these elite people, when that’s their view, then they take this crazy attitude. But it is not gonna play well. We saw that in Virginia, we’re seeing that across the country. And understand this too. I don’t think this — the more I’ve looked at this and the facts now are starting to come out remember we have news that the school board association before the initial letter was sent on September 29th, before that letter was even sent the White House and the school board association were talking so I don’t think — and of course five days later after they send the threat Merrick Garland gets his memo and then we get this email that comes 16 days later out to FBI agents they put this threat tag, this terrorist tag on parents.

I don’t think it really started with the school board. I think that the letter was just a pretext. I think this came from the government. I think this is the Biden administration working with the Garland DOJ saying we don’t like parents pushing back on anything so we’re gonna chill their speech with this, but we’re gonna have to have something to be the catalyst so it’s gonna be this letter. I think it went that way. I think it was the government using the letter as a pretext to go after parents. What they didn’t count on, what they didn’t understand is the pushback they were gonna get from moms and dads. And that — again, that is what is so darn encouraging about all this.

CLAY: We’re talking to Jim Jordan, congressman from Ohio. He’s got a new book out, Do What You Said You Would Do: Fighting for Freedom in the Swamp. We don’t know what the fallout is going to be in Kenosha, whether there might be people who try to riot as a result of the not guilty charges. What should the state of Wisconsin do to protect the people and the small business owners this time in Kenosha that they didn’t do back in August which led to these charges against Kyle Rittenhouse?

REP. JORDAN: Yeah, great point. I mean, they should have the National Guard out. My understanding is that’s what they’re doing. And also leaders, the mayor, the governor, members of Congress, members of the Senate, leaders in the government should be standing up and saying, look, this is how our great system works, you all saw the — just be a leader, for goodness’ sake. That’s what’s needed. Frankly, that’s what’s needed in the White House right now, someone who will actually lead and talk about the things that need to be talked about instead of just catering to the left as we see Biden do. But be leaders. And my understanding, Clay, is that the governor there has got the National Guard called out; so I think that’s obviously the right move.

BUCK: Congressman Jordan, you know, the Build Back Better bill — a lot of B’s — has been voted through the house, Nancy Pelosi pushing it all the way by what was the vote, it was a handful, 220 to 213 today. How much of it is gonna get changed, do you think? I know that — asked me to kind of think about what they’re doing across the hall in the Senate side. But how — and the bigger point, the bigger question really is, how big a deal is this gonna be for those of us who are worried about inflation, drags on economic growth and the growth of government overall?

REP. JORDAN: It’s just gonna exacerbate the mess that the Biden administration and Democrats running all the federal government, the mess that they’ve created in just 10 months, it’s only gonna make it worse. We know that. Now, let’s hope Manchin and Sinema hold firm. They’ve said they want changes and everything else but they haven’t said — I hope this thing doesn’t pass, obviously, because it’s not just a number, it’s not just the spending. I mean, that’s bad enough, couple more trillion dollars in the already crazy spending that they’ve done. It’s the policy. It’s the left-wing energy policy that’s gonna make gas prices go up even more. It’s the tax increases. Mean, you think about the Democrats’ economic plan — I said this the other day — the Democrats’ economic plan is basically lock down the economy, spend like crazy, pay people not to work, and then for everyone that has been working, they’re getting ready to raise your taxes. Such a deal.

So, this is how crazy this all is. I hope it doesn’t pass. But for the president of the United States a few weeks ago to say if you pass this, if you spend two trillion more, it will help inflation, there is not a rational, sane person on this planet who believes that. Why the president of our country would say something like that is beyond me; so, again, let’s hope Senators Manchin and Sinema stay “no” and this thing doesn’t ever become law.

CLAY: Kyle Rittenhouse not guilty, Congressman, you’ve got the Steele dossier officially total crap, as you’ve been arguing for years that it was. You have inflation skyrocketing, the border is a disaster. Is this a turning point for moderate, middle of the road people to recognize how much the media has been lying to them? I mean, I talk to a lot of people, Congressman — I know you do, too — the amount of just flat-out lies that were out there about Rittenhouse versus what was actually proven at the court hearing at the case, I mean, I think it red pilled a lot of people out there that otherwise hadn’t been paying a lot of attention.

REP. JORDAN: Yeah. No, I mean, Donald Trump colluded with Russia, Donald Trump, kids were going to prison, Kyle Rittenhouse was a terrorist, was — went out looking for — to assault people and kill — I mean, all lies, all based on — no evidence, no facts behind those claims made by the press. It got so bad, the Washington Post had to go back and say, well, we’re gonna make corrections in our stories about the Trump-Russia situation, that whole charade that they — so, yeah, the American people get it now.

The American people have common sense. They understand that they were fed a bunch of baloney by the left-wing press. They understand that the Democrat Party is now controlled by the hard left, and they’re saying, time-out. Time-out. Again, the first sign was Virginia. And I think that’s only gonna pick up. There’s a reason why 71% of our fellow citizens think the country’s on the wrong track. I mean, because it is. It is on the wrong track, but Americans are gonna turn it around. And, again, I’ve said this a couple of times, but you can see it happening, and it’s so encouraging. It’s what we all sort of instinctively know about our fellow citizens, about this great country, Americans get it right, and you’re seeing that now start to play out.

BUCK: We’re, Congressman Jim Jordan, wishing you the best of luck here on your book coming out on Tuesday, Do What You Said You Would Do: Fighting for Freedom in the Swamp. Congressman Jordan, always good to have you, sir. We’ll talk to you soon.

REP. JORDAN: You bet. Good to be with you guys, take care.

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19 Nov 2021

CLAY: We played this a while back after Rittenhouse went on the witness stand. This is a collection of media on CNN, MSNBC, and other left-wing outlets maligning, insulting, disparaging Kyle Rittenhouse, calling him a murderer, a white supremacist, a terrorizing school shooter. Listen to this now in the wake of Kyle Rittenhouse being found not guilty on all charges and tell me that all of these people shouldn’t be held accountable for their lies. We give credit to the jury, but my goodness. The media wrong again.

KASPARIAN: “Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse — he murdered two people, by the way.”

JOHNSON: “Rittenhouse is basically what you would have had in a school shooter. He’s a 17-year-old kid, he shouldn’t have had a gun, he crossed state lines to supposedly protect property? No, he was going out to shoot people.”

O’DONNELL: “Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old vigilante…”

WALLACE: “Kyle Rittenhouse, a vigilante…”

REID: “Kyle Rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante…”

HEILEMANN: “The 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle, drove to a different state to shoot people.”

UYGUR: “Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who is deeply racist, went with weapons to a Black Lives Matter protest, looking to get in trouble — he did, he murdered a couple of people.”

SCARBOROUGH: “Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old kid, just running around, shooting and killing protesters.”

CLAY: Shameful, Buck.

BUCK: It’s shameful and not a single person saying that feels the least bit of shame because they don’t actually go on air to tell people the truth. They go on air to tell people who believe lies even more lies. They go to support the narrative of the left. Let’s also remember that not only, as you rightly point out here, Clay, did we have the Democrat media and Joe Biden when he was running for president defaming Kyle Rittenhouse, I mean, calling him a racist. There was no basis whatsoever for that. They just said he’s white, he had a gun, and he shot crazy, lunatic left-wing protesters; so he must be a racist. There was no reasonable basis for even making that assertion. But beyond that, Big Tech took action against those who merely wanted Kyle Rittenhouse to get a fair trial.

They shut down — they shut down his GoFundMe, they shut down his efforts to raise money for his defense. Big Media chased down people who donated to Kyle’s defense fund and treated them like they were, you know, sending money to Adolf Hitler. These people are a disgrace. The left has completely lost its mind, and this just shows you they were defaming a good kid who was defending himself, and they don’t feel any regret about it. That’s what we’re dealing with.

CLAY: Speaking of which, your mayor, Bill de Blasio — did you see he’s already tweeted about this?

BUCK: I mean, he’s the worst person, after Fauci, in America, Clay, so I’m not surprised —

You are the dumbest politician in America. https://t.co/ySIbD1kyS9

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) November 19, 2021

CLAY: Here is what he tweeted. He just tweeted. I flagged this ’cause I was like, oh, Buck’s gonna lose — love this. “Anthony Huber and Joseph Rosenbaum” — by the way, both of whom have criminal past — “are victims. They should be alive today. The only reason they’re not is because a violent, dangerous man chose to take a gun across state lines and start shooting people. To call this a miscarriage of justice is an understatement.” That’s what he just tweeted, Buck.

BUCK: He is the worst, dumbest mayor and maybe politician in America. I mean, I don’t know — and, by the way, what does he think that he knows that these 12 jurors who sat through this whole trial, what does he think he sees that they didn’t see? Why does he believe that their completely legitimate and lawful and righteous verdict is somehow absurd, they got it wrong. Really? Based on what? He just pushes the narrative. He’s another one who is an utter disgrace. And I just — I feel for the Rittenhouse family right now. I mean, they — think of the sigh of relief. Because, Clay, it’s not just that their boy isn’t gonna spend what was the rest of his life in prison, but also he’s not a murderer. He defended himself.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: What he did was not only lawful, it was ethical. It was moral. It was the same thing that any member of this audience should be able to do and should never face the wrath of the state for doing. There’s some very important takeaways from this, I can tell you right now. The left-wing mob, the Democrat shock troops of the Biden campaign, they’re feeling weird right now, Clay. What do you mean we can’t just burn down everyone’s businesses and punch them in the face and break their jaw without consequence? Apparently not.

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