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23 Nov 2021

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Clay Talks Hunter Biden Ties to China on Hannity

23 Nov 2021

Clay dropped by Sean’s show to discuss Hunter Biden’s ties to China and call out the media double standard when it comes to the Biden and Trump kids.

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The New Ghostbusters Movie Looks Really Good

22 Nov 2021

BUCK: I didn’t even know this.

CLAY: You didn’t know this. We were talking about it off the air.

BUCK: Ghostbusters, just to be clear was the movie, we actually had it in laserdisc at my cousin’s house. They had a house in the suburbs. We all gathered there. And remember laserdiscs you don’t stop or, you couldn’t fast-forward; you had to watch the whole thing all the way through. It’s like a giant CD, for those who can remember this, way back in the day. But it was cutting-edge technology. We had Ghostbusters on laserdisc. We watched that movie, it was when all the kids, there were 11 grandchildren, so to speak, in my family. We would all crowd into one room and watch Ghostbusters when the parents were either having cocktails or, you know, cooking or whatever, I mean, it’s a movie that has tremendous importance in my life. You’re telling me that there’s a new Ghostbusters movie.

CLAY: Yeah. And one of the great things one day, Buck, you will find when you are a parent, you get to go back and watch all of the movies that you loved as a kid and let your kids experience them. So, my boys loved Ghostbusters 1, loved Ghostbusters 2. In fact, we took my middle son up to New York for his birthday. He wanted to go see the Ghostbusters, the place where the end scene of Ghostbusters is right off Central Park, he wanted to go see the Ghostbusters firehouse, and he wanted to go to where — yeah. Where he wanted — oh, it’s great. Ghostbusters 2, you know, where they have the museum, the Vigo character, pretty scary, by the way —

BUCK: Vigo. I remember —

CLAY: — Carpathian.

BUCK: He looks at you through the painting and that weird little guy running around, very much, Renfield from Bram Stoker’s Dracula, very much a borrowing of that, yeah.

CLAY: So, they have a new movie which is, it’s not the women’s version of Ghostbusters, which everybody just pretends didn’t happen.

BUCK: ‘Cause it was horrible. Did you try to watch it.

CLAY: Went and watched it.

BUCK: I watched 15 minutes of it and I was like, this is honestly burning a hole through my eyes that I will never recover from.

CLAY: This is a direct lineage. It has the old Ecto-1, it’s directly connected, it’s the granddaughter of I believe Egon Spengler is the idea for those of you who loved the original Ghostbusters, and it particularly pays homage to the 1984 original Ghostbusters and the 1989 and is connected and has supposedly Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, the Winston character. I can’t remember what his name is, the —

BUCK: Is it Zeddemore? Am I right?

CLAY: Maybe so. The Annie Potts character who ended up, and all of those people, Sigourney Weaver, all of them evidently have cameos in this movie —

BUCK: Winston Zeddemore. Nailed it. That’s not an easy name to remember, either. But —

CLAY: All of these guys in the movie, I’m taking the boys to go watch it today. Ernie Hudson. I’m gonna go see it. I cannot wait to go see this. I heard it’s great. I’ll give you a review tomorrow.

BUCK: I’ll actually go check this out with my brothers, ’cause we got to the point, there are only certain movies where we can all make reference to the, basically we could pick out the a line and any one of my siblings could pick up the dialogue at that point, Ghostbusters is one of them, Predator with Arnold Schwarzenegger is another.

CLAY: Predator was so good, such a good movie.

BUCK: So, this is like the stuff that folks may get into. By the way, if you have not seen Ghostbusters, the original for some reason which I think is probably a very, very small component of the audience, and looking for a movie to watch over the holiday, it is it holds up very well. It holds up very well. The other movie that we watched at holidays in my family — other than obviously Christmas, we watched some of the Christmas movie stuff. But Back to the Future, we must have seen Back to the Future a thousand times.

CLAY: Holds up perfectly. Back to the Future, the Indiana Jones movies, the Ghostbusters, Goonies, all of them even watching today in 2021 you will watch and say, my goodness. These were still perfect movies 40 years later. And that’s one of the great things about being a parent is getting to re- — my kids think the 1980s is the greatest decade that’s ever existed.

BUCK: I will say that I have another — I have a suggestion for my friend Clay, the sports guru. Have you seen the Netflix documentary about the — the Trashers, the hockey team from —

CLAY: No, I’ve not even heard about it.

BUCK: It’s like an hour and 20 minutes. It’s amazing. This guy back in the, like, early mid-2000s who was a Mafioso who ended up going to prison for a long time, a Mafia don essentially bought a minor league ice hockey team —

CLAY: I know nothing about this.

BUCK: — in Connecticut for his 17-year-old son, stacked it with as many kind of, you know, thuggish players, ice hockey players as possible, guys that are just brawlers. It’s amazing. If you haven’t seen this, it’s Untold stories on Netflix. It’s about the Trashers. What are they from Hartford or from New Haven? I forget. One of those cities in Connecticut. I watched that over this weekend. I could give two thumbs way up on that; so, I’d highly recommend. But I have to go see Ghostbusters for the break, Clay, I’ll check this out.

CLAY: I’ll give you a review. I know how much everybody is excited to be with their family, this is a great movie to go see with all the ages. I’ll tell you how well it is and how well it holds up.

BUCK: The Danbury Trashers was the team I was wanting to check out.

CLAY: I just wrote it down.

BUCK: Danbury Trashers. It’s amazing.

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Winsome Sears Nukes CNN on CRT, Maher Warns Woke Left

22 Nov 2021

BASH:  We should also tell viewers you’re the former vice president of the Virginia board of education.  So explain how you think race should be taught in Virginia public schools.

SEARS:  Well, let me back up.  I beg to differ that CRT is not taught.

BASH:  I didn’t say that.  I just said it’s not in the curriculum, just to be clear.

SEARS:  No, no, no.  It is part of the curriculum.  It’s weaved in and out of the curriculum.  In fact, in 2015, former governor, who was just defeated, McAuliffe, his state board of education had information on how to teach it.  So, it’s weaved in.  So, you know, it’s semantics.  But it’s weaved in.

What we want to say and what governor-elect Youngkin has said is that all of history must be taught. The good, the bad, and the ugly.  Because what we learn from history, Dana, is that we don’t learn from history and we continue to repeat the same mistakes.

BUCK:  Yes! From Winsome Sears there, the new lieutenant governor in the new year of Virginia, laying it down on the semantics games over CRT and the way that we constantly hear from Democrats, oh, well, it’s not really CRT or it’s not officially CRT.  She understands in the state of Virginia it absolutely is being taught and she’s holding CNN to account there for the lies.

But I have to say that at some level I’m hopeful that some Democrats or the Democrat narrative that the apparatus continues to push the idea that the only reason that Glenn Youngkin won in Virginia is racism, that the only reason parents show up at any of these teacher meetings and these school board meetings is racism and that it’s just some kind of a white backlash situation or whatever it is.

I’d like them to continue with this madness because it’s a delusion, it’s not true, enough people recognize that it’s a stupid smear that won’t deal with the eel issue of left-wing indoctrination of children and it’s likely to cause enormous challenges, enormous losses, let’s be honest, for Democrats in the midterms.

And none other than Bill Maher is out there making a similar case right now to people.  He’s trying to tell Democrats as a Democrat if you stick with this woke madness, it’s really dumb, you’re going to get annihilated here.

MAHER:  I know liberals think this country is full of dumb white people, but in our democracy dumb white people make up a substantial portion of the vote.  (Laughter.) The median voter is a white person in their fifties who didn’t go to go to college their favorite TV show is NCIS and their pronouns are what, I don’t know what the (bleep) you’re talking about, get away from me. (Laughter.)

In 2008 Republicans only won four Virginia counties by more than 70%.  This month in the governor’s election there, they did it in 45 counties.  And this is what a lot of Democrats were told was the reason for that: Glenn Youngkin’s win proves White House ignorance is a powerful weapon.  Racism still works in Virginia.  Well, I haven’t worked up an official Democratic campaign slogan for 2024 yet, but I tell you what I have ruled out is: Vote Democrat Because White People Suck.

BUCK:  He sees it, Clay.  I almost don’t want Democrats to catch on.

CLAY:  I think everybody sees it.  And this is why, I mean, to a larger extent, this is why our audience is exploding every single month, why it keeps growing.  Because for a long time there’s been 40% who kind of see it, there’s 40% who completely reject it, and there’s 20% in the middle.

And I think what’s happened over the last couple of years, Buck, is I think there’s about 20% that are hard-core committed to far-left-wing ideology in the Democratic Party.  And you’re seeing after from a Bill Maher, from a James Carville, from even Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson came out and said the woke universe had gone too far.

And so I think we’re talking about is 20% that are committed to this revolutionary ideology that brands everyone who disagrees racist, sexist, homophobic, without redemptive quality, and I think there’s 80% of the American public that is over it.  And that’s why we’re not even just talking to conservatives now, Buck.

We’re expanding the universe here of reasonable people every single day to a massive degree, and I think you’re right, to the extent that the AOCs of the world and her ilk continue to speak out as they are to me was perfect evidence of this, Buck, with Joe Biden.  Rittenhouse verdict comes out, Joe Biden gives an initial statement that’s fairly middle of the road, says, hey, you have to respect the will of the jury.  Within a couple of hours that was not woke enough and they issued a statement talking about how outraged he was.  Wait a minute.  We saw him talk ourselves and then that statement comes out, they’re constantly general you’re reflecting to the altar of the woke and the true believers get smaller and smaller every day.

BUCK:  Angry and concerned was what Biden said in that follow-up statement and if we had a real press corps, which we do not, they would ask Joe Biden, angry why?  Why are you angry at this jury verdict?

CLAY:  Why didn’t you say it to us a couple hours before?

BUCK:  Right.  Why is it that that change of heart happened?  You know, Maher also on his show said, Clay, that he wants AOC to actually be willing to come on a place like his show, his platform, and defend —

CLAY:  It’s a great point.

BUCK:  — the lunacy of some of what the far left in the Democratic Party is pushing.  Listen.

MAHER:  A more pertinent question one might be asking about the word “woke” might be, why in such a short time has it gone from a rallying cry to a pejorative?  If the word only made you think of rational, deserved causes like teaching a less white-washed version of American history, AOC would still want to own it.  But it’s a joke because it makes you think of people who wake up offended and take orders from Twitter.

That said, I would love to have AOC on this show.  There’s so much to admire there.  I was one of her first supporters for the Green New Deal idea.  But that will probably never happen because Democrats don’t go anywhere these days where they’re not pre-adored.

BUCK:  Clay, this is a key point.  I’ve been saying this for a long time for years now, which is that, you know, even a place like CNN used to be a different institution.  You could go and be a conservative, and they hated you.  Yet they won’t even put you on air anymore.  You’re not even allowed to make the conservative case on air and have people shout you down and yell at you in the commercial break and all the rest of it.  Trust me.  I know.  I’m sorry.  You know too.  I’m not alone in this.  But they will not allow it.

AOC’s belief, the things that she said recently — and this is what I think Maher was referring to.  And this ties into the entire panic among Democrats who are smart and understand where the country’s trending right now that they are heading into a historic wipeout, I mean, may be the biggest historic wipeout we’ve seen in a midterm election in our lifetimes.  And they understand that when someone like AOC will say, “Well, wokeness is just some term that old white people use…” Now, oh, I’m sorry, wokeness is a term that they were using all the time.  It was something, oh, man, I’m woke, it was something that was cool, it was like in the zeitgeist, right?  It was, oh, man I’m so woke.

But it has turned into something else because when you announce your pronouns for no reason, when you say that men can get pregnant, when you think that everything is offensive even when no one’s offended by it but you pretend, people pick up after a while and they figured it out.  So that’s why her defense here is incoherent, and that’s why she won’t go on Bill Maher or any semi-rational person’s show.

CLAY:  And this we should make clear.  Buck and I are welcome to go on other people’s shows who might disagree with us.  In fact, we’ll do it.  We don’t run and hide.  We believe in what we believe, but we’re not afraid in being attacked for that and, by the way, this is why we offered Dr. Fauci the opportunity to come talk on our show.  He has time to do every media outlet just about in the entire country if they’re left wing.  We would ask him respectful questions.  We would be direct with him.  But you know what?  People are afraid to actually engage in a battle of ideas.

I don’t mean just randomly attack people.  I mean sit down and go head-to-head with things you disagree about, that’s about become rare.  We’re not afraid to do it on this show but that makes us unique and also I think is why so many of you are coming in every single day, why the big tent of the Clay and Buck show is expanding and adding new listeners.

BUCK:  I’ll tell you this right now, I’ll put this out there.  I’ll go on any CNN show of any host who has said that Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist or a murderer and have represent —

CLAY:  The other side —

BUCK:  The Rittenhouse side of the conversation — anyone, anyone at MSNBC I’ll put it out there but it has to be a topic that’s worth talking about and it has to be live so they can’t play any games ’cause they do that stuff over there too.

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ESPN Trots Out Jalen Rose to Peddle Jacob Blake Lie

22 Nov 2021

CLAY: Buck, I don’t know if you saw it on Friday night in the wake of the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict, ESPN, for some reason, decided to have Jalen Rose, a former NBA player, as a part of their pregame lead in with this and get everything totally wrong, the misinformation, the disinformation is legion.

Listen to this.

ROSE: Here’s the thing. After Black Lives Matter protests actually taking place because Jacob Blake was shot and killed by police officers.

CLAY: It’s a lie, Buck. Jacob Blake, 18 months later Jacob Blake is alive! He was armed, the police were responding to a sexual assault. That was on ESPN, millions of people watching a basketball game and they trotted out Jalen Rose who completely bungled the story and helped to spread the idea that Jacob Blake’s a victim.

BUCK: We increasingly live in a society where people are not embarrassed to be wrong. They’re embarrassed to be on the wrong side. Doesn’t matter what the facts are. Doesn’t matter what the truth actually is, as long as they’re rooting for their team, that’s all they care about, whatever that means for the actual truth of the matter.

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Lawlessness Rules in Joe Biden’s America

22 Nov 2021

BUCK: What happens when the people that are supposed to enforce the law decide that the law is problematic for them? That social justice is more important than actual justice and that criminals should get away with things? Welcome back to the Clay and Buck show. We’ve seen for a long time now the rise in violent crime across the country. We’ve seen that murders, shootings have skyrocketed. I mean, one of the ones that is the most mind-blowing to me they’re way up in Houston, they’re way up in New York, they’re way up in every major, and all Democrat-controlled, major cities by population really in the country.

Portland had a thousand shootings over the last year, a thousand in a city that’s not that big by population, by far the most it’s ever had. One thing that we’re seeing is that when you undermine cops and when you put prosecutors in place who are supposed to be deterring crime and they decide that, well, that doesn’t seem like a social justice mission that they really want to take on bad things happen.

Case in point. And this is also if a moment where we’re looking at the incident involving Darrell Brooks here and we’re looking at this individual and we’re understanding that he was let out just two days after being arrested for a crime of trying to run over with his car the mother of his children. Meanwhile, you have people — you’ve got, you know, grannies who are waving a flag inside the capitol in solitary confinement for, you know, eight months on end because they’re such a danger to the public. And in the D.C. holding cells endlessly. And, Clay, over the weekend alone just the last few days you have what I think you have to call theft mobs because this is not one or two people, this is 10, 15, 20, perhaps 30 or more people at a time pulling up in cars, running into a high-end retail establishment, grabbing everything in sight, and running out with it.

They did this in San Francisco over the weekend, at Union Square, very famous, well known place the Louis Vuitton store there, they did this in Chicago at a Louis Vuitton store, over a hundred thousand dollars of merchandise stolen. Do you think any of the people caught, Clay, are gonna serve really severe sentences? Doubtful.

CLAY: Of course not, Buck. And actually one of our listeners sent me a video. He was staying in Union Square — for people who don’t know San Francisco well, historically, Buck, Union Square is like — I mean, there’s a Louis Vuitton there for God’s sakes. This is a super high end area. As we’ve been talking about in San Francisco about I believe it was Walgreens that has effectively said, hey, we’ve got so much thievery that is going on that they’re shutting down five Walgreens. And the impact here is substantial because those are jobs in lower income areas that are important to so many people in those communities and they’re basically saying, “Hey, we can’t run these stores anymore.”

But Union Square is the heart of San Francisco, a high-end shopping district and they’re just showing up and running roughshod through a Louis Vuitton with no expectation that there’s going to be any law enforcement at all and there are people, this is gonna be fascinating to watch because they’re trying to recall Chesa Boudain right now in San Francisco who has made all of this possible by effectively saying, “Hey, we’re not gonna do any sort of criminal enforcement anymore.

BUCK: The rule is if you steal less than $950 police won’t making an arrest. That’s the rule Clay by Chesa Boudin.

CLAY: It is madness, Buck, even in San Francisco, and this is why I know that things are changing substantially. I’ve got a lot of friends who live out in San Francisco. We don’t agree on a lot of political related issues. They’ve started listening to the show, Buck. You were talking about one of your buddies in New York City who’s not necessarily like a conservative radio listener, but they’re getting so fed up with quality of life related issues and with the sort of crazy propaganda media world that we live in where they start to get told things that they see with their own eyes are not true. There’s a demand for honest.

BUCK: I gotta tell you another group the same way that I have a friend who’s a corporate lawyer and life lot of Democrat who says he loves us for holding Fauci accountable a guy I’ve known a very long time in my life a huge fan of show I have prosecutors and I got — I mean, I’m the one that’s pointing out, for example, at Chisholm the district attorney in Milwaukee who let out Brooks the guy that just ran down, murdered all these people with his car, that’s the same district attorney, everybody, who ran the John Doe case against Scott Walker years ago. He abused the secret investigative tactic to try to go after the Walker campaign. I interviewed somebody that they were trying to throw in prison for seven years for crimes like using her cell phone inside instead of outside a building for campaign business. Chisholm is an absolutely political hatchet man, a Democrat left winger, of course, and he’s the guy in Milwaukee.

Chesa Boudin, these other guys I’m just pointing out Larry Krasner in Philadelphia, people that I know who are prosecutors reach out they’re like, thank you for trashing these awful prosecutors who undermine what it is we’re trying to do which is enforce the law and make everybody safer. No one is safer because prosecutors feel sanctimonious and self-righteous for letting criminals go. And that’s what major cities, including New York, including San Francisco, I’m sure it’s happening in Houston, too, that’s what’s going on.

CLAY: There’s no doubt. And, Buck, what this all represents is being concerned with overpunishing criminals is a luxury of low crime. Right? Cyclically, when people start to say, hey, maybe we’re putting people in jail for too long, it’s because the crime rate has gotten so low that it is a luxury to be concerned that you are overpunishing criminals. Back in the nineties and I think that’s where we’re headed all over again, three strikes and you’re out — remember Joe Biden helped to pass that? The reality is putting hardened criminals behind bars for a long time does work and it drives down, particularly in violent crime incidents, drives down the overall rate of crime in this country. Buck, everybody in walk who is looking at what just happened in Waukesha is saying, how in the world did this violent criminal have the ability to be on the streets and murder in cold blood at least five people, wound 40 people driving through a Christmas parade? We are failing at protecting our communities when that guy was allowed back on the streets for a small amount of bail. Total failure of the criminal justice system.

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The Real Kyle Rittenhouse Speaks

22 Nov 2021

CLAY: Welcome back to the Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Hope all of you are having a great Monday, beginning of the  holiday week. I know a lot of you will be traveling. Maybe you already have started your travels Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, to be with friends and family for the holiday. Encourage you to download the podcast. You can search out my name, Clay Travis. You can search out Buck Sexton, help us set an all-time record in November for the number of podcast downloads for this show. We appreciate all of you diving in and supporting us there.

Tonight on Tucker Carlson we will hear from Kyle Rittenhouse a full sit-down interview explaining much of his thoughts that you haven’t already heard from his testimony during the trial. And here is a cut that they have released from that interview with Tucker Carlson. Let’s play cut 2. Of course, Kyle Rittenhouse immediately argued by massive amounts of the media, oh, this is a white supremacist, this is a racist act. Tucker asked him directly about his affiliation with the idea of white supremacy. Here was Kyle Rittenhouse’s answer.

RITTENHOUSE: I tell everybody there what happened. I said, I had to do it. I was just attacked. I was dizzy. I was vomiting. I couldn’t breathe. This case has nothing to do with race. It never had anything to do with race. It had to do with the right to self-defense. I’m not a racist person. I remember the BLM movement. I support peacefully demonstrating. And I believe there needs to be change. I believe there’s a lot of prosecutorial misconduct not just in my case but in other cases. And it’s just amazing to see how much a prosecutor can take advantage of somebody.

BUCK: They were trying to feed Kyle to the mob, Clay. That’s what this was really about from the beginning. You remember I said almost a month ago now on this show they never should have even brought charges. You agreed. They never should have even brought charges against Kyle Rittenhouse. Chris Christie, for whatever that’s worth, he was a federal prosecutor — I know people have very intense views on Chris Christie one way or the other. He said over the weekend they never should have even charged this individual based on the facts, based on they had video which I also believe very strongly if there was no video he may very well have been found guilty, not because he did anything wrong but because the narrative was so powerful and people were so set in believing certain things that absent video it might have been hard to convince that jury otherwise. But, I mean, let’s just — let’s look at this a little bit cause they’re still saying he’s a white supremacist, you played a clip in the first hour, they’re still claiming this about him.

Would Kyle Rittenhouse have gone to Kenosha if it had been an Antifa, you know, radical anarchist burning down of Kenosha that was going on that had nothing to do with BLM? I believe the answer is very clearly “yes.” He wanted to stop a community from being — that was his rationale for it because the only place where they claim now obviously shooting three white guys it’s hard to make — a white guy shooting three white guys is hard to make the claim that’s racist. They do it but no intelligent person believes this so then it’s the motivation for being, right? It went from cardio he crossed state lines. A lot of people freaked out about that I crossed state lines into Connecticut and New Jersey on a regular basis. Not a big deal.

Now the whole thing is, well, his motivation for being in Kenosha was somehow racist because of the connection to the Blake incident and Jacob Blake and BLM more broadly in the background of all this. I just think that also has — that’s not — if you listen to Rittenhouse he says he’s supportive of BLM as a movement. And even beyond that this is a kid who wanted to stop a neighborhood from being destroyed or stop a city from being destroyed and I think from what we’ve seen of him there’s every reason to believe he would have wanted to do that regardless of what the background left-wing or any wing political narrative was. He just didn’t want to see a town burn.

CLAY: The Buck, story here, we hit on this early, the people who are angry at Kyle Rittenhouse are anger because he was there in the first place. That’s their story, because they keep saying inaccurately he crossed state lines with a gun. He didn’t do that. The gun was in Wisconsin. And if you look, the amount of Blue Checkmark Brigade members out there that can’t even bother to get basic facts correct in their takes is evidence of how little they pay attention to the real facts and how much they embrace the narrative version of the facts because, look. I’ve said before, you’ve said this, I wouldn’t want my 17-year-old son to have been there, period. I wouldn’t have wanted protesting for BLM.

I wouldn’t have wanted him trying to protect small businesses because it was a chaotic, messy, ugly situation. But that’s not the case. The case is did Kyle Rittenhouse on that night fear for his safety, potentially his life and exercise self-defense as a result? The answer is yes. The case is not about why he was there. The case is about wince he was there did he have a self-defense, and he did.

BUCK: And why are all these rioters there? I mean, built into all of this is an expectation on the left that there was something righteous behind the destruction of.

CLAY: Correct.

BUCK: — Kenosha on behalf of BLM, like they’re somehow okay, they’re allowed to burn things down and terrorize people and break a senior citizen’s jaw because he didn’t want his store to get burned to the ground, they did that, right? Didn’t hear a lot of reporting about it, but those are the kind of things that are going on. But people were angry, and the left, as we know, in June of 2020, was having a giant temper tantrum, in the middle of a pandemic, mind you, because of Trump, because of BLM, they were just having this spasm of rage unleashed onto American cities across the country, and they ultimately believed that there’s something righteous in that. Of course, you and I reject that, this audience rejects that, that’s insane, but as to the point about Rittenhouse and whether, him being there, as a question of, it’s not a question of honor. It’s a question of the wisdom and safety of being there, in my opinion, meaning —

CLAY: This is why I’m thinking of a parent perspective.

BUCK: Right. I respect why Kyle Rittenhouse wanted to be there and what he was doing. And I think it was brave to be there and do what he did. I, though, would be very cautious in counseling somebody who was thinking about doing that because, let’s just remember, Kyle does what he did. There’s no video, there just happened to be no video that shows the incident that young man probably goes to prison for the rest of his life or at least for a few decades which is pretty close to the same thing.

So that’s what, I mean. You cannot trust the system. You can’t trust the district attorney this guy Chisholm out of Milwaukee, you can’t trust these people in the state, I’m not even talking about the rioters, you can’t trust the state to do the right thing. They essentially abandoned Kenosha to this, it was like a sacrifice to the rage of the left. They should have had National Guard out there tear gassing and arresting and taking care of care of business. Oh, no, not in Kenosha.

CLAY: They did it all over the country. They abandoned any sort of law and order and that’s why my point is regardless of what your political leanings were as a parent, I don’t want my kids out protesting. I don’t want my kids out responding to the protesters. I don’t think it’s safe, period, because the state abrogated its responsibility to protect business, to protect citizens and to protect the city, and that is the fundamental failure, that void of leadership is what we had enter. I just want to mention this, too, Buck. There still to my knowledge has been no suggestion that the Blake story had anything to do with race. There’s nothing to suggest that Rittenhouse had anything to do with race.

There’s nothing to suggest that George Floyd and Chauvin had anything to do with race other than the fact that their identities are their races, there hasn’t been any suggestion that all of these stories that divided and destroyed us in the summer of 2020 were directly related to race. To my knowledge, there’s zero tangible evidence of that. That is narrative one more time over fact.

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Waukesha Driver Was Out on Bail for Running Over His Ex

22 Nov 2021

BUCK: We’ve got an update for you on the alleged mass murderer here, I’m already seeing people in the media write about this as though it’s a tragedy like a tornado went through Waukesha. It was a mass murder by vehicle incident, five dead, dozens grievously wounded, and unless something you know, unless something crazy happens, but they got the guy in custody and know who it is; so I think we know the situation with regard to that. We don’t know the motivation quite yet.

But here’s an interesting bit of news that just broke in the last 30 minutes or so and is now getting much more attention. Darrell Brooks, 39, he’s the driver of that red Ford SUV that was plowing through and murdering people on Sunday in Waukesha, Wisconsin, at the Christmas parade. He was out on bail, which I had mentioned earlier in the show, was out on bail from November 19th, he’d been out for two days, but the news update, only had to post a thousand dollars cash bond, the news update is that the charges that put him in that position, why was he out on bail? What was the crime he was accused of?


Running over the mother of one of his children, according to Daily Mail here, he is said to have hunted her down in a hotel, followed in the street in his car, demanded that she get in, punched her with a closed fist, and then ran her over with his vehicle. Now, Clay, they want us to believe that this individual, Mr. Darrell Brooks, who is a violent long-standing criminal, was just trying to escape something and so ran through all these people. And the very crime that he was out on bail for 48 hours from involved the usage of his car as a weapon against a defenseless person. That’s where we are right now.

CLAY: Well, and the question that is going to become more and more paramount, if you look at so many of these crimes that are being committed right now in the United States as we are having an unbelievable massive, without precedent increase, for instance, in murders all over this country, why in the world if you try and run somebody over in a car can you post a thousand dollars bail and be back out on the street? It’s one thing if you’re getting arrested because you have a broken taillight and you haven’t paid your traffic fines, nonviolent offenses, I can understand the idea of having low rates of bail and allowing people back out into the streets. But this is an incredible failure by our justice system that we are allowing people who are accused of incredibly violent crime right back out onto the street with almost no dollars required, Buck. It’s happened all over the country.

BUCK: It’s not an accident, right?

CLAY: Well, yes.

BUCK: This has been an active decision made by the Democrat Party with its criminal justice reform mantra and George Soros backing far-left prosecutors in places like San from a and Chicago. We’ve got more on that coming up in a few minutes. You have to call theft mobs running around now.

CLAY: No doubt.

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CLAY: Little bit of an update here. Shameful. The Milwaukee district attorney’s office admitted Monday they set an inappropriately low bond earlier this month for the man Darrell Brooks who’s accused of killing everyone in Wisconsin, five, killed five and injured dozens.

They said that he had been charged on November 5th with resisting or obstructing an officer, reckless endangering safety, disorderly conduct, bail jumping, and battery, and yet he had only gotten a $100,000 bail that was later reduced to $7500.

The DA’s office said that they had failed, the state’s bail recommendation was inappropriately low and they are now doing an investigation to determine how this man was allowed back out onto the streets. The office currently conducting an internal review to make the recent bail recommendation to determine the appropriate next steps.

Well, that’s great, five people are dead, dozens are wounded, this guy, Buck Sexton, had no business out on the streets. Failure, failure, failure by the Milwaukee district attorney’s office.

BUCK: This is a thinking that has all over the infected major district attorney’s office across the country — New York, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Chicago.

Recently in Chicago, Clay, they had a couple of guy — handful of guys who arrested broad daylight shooting, almost a hundred rounds exchanged, people hit, but the — but Kim Foxx, who, if you recall, of Jussie Smollett fame, didn’t want any charges against him, didn’t bring any charges against the gang members shooting each other in broad daylight.

I have a feeling they probably didn’t have permits for those handguns under Chicago law but nonetheless, no charges interesting brought. This is madness. But there has grown among the left this sense that it is fashionable to go easy on violent criminals because it’s society’s fault. It’s unfair. There’s a disproportionate impact on criminal justice on some communities. Therefore, we alleviate that by not restoring the law as much. Well, hold on a second. What does that mean?

CLAY: It’s a great question.

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Dr. Scott Atlas on America’s Ongoing Covid Insanity

22 Nov 2021

CLAY: We are joined now by Dr. Scott Atlas. He is a senior fellow in health policy at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, former adviser on covid to the president and author of the new book: A Plague Upon Our House: My Fight at the Trump White House to Stop Covid from Destroying America.

Dr. Atlas, appreciate the time that you are spending with us. Let’s dive right into it. How much of a disaster has Dr. Fauci been for America in terms of the advice that he has given over the last 18 months based on your experience?

DR. ATLAS: Well, thanks for having me. You know, I think this is something people have to understand. They have to be critical thinkers about what is said because the advice from the doctors on the task force six months before I got there, the three and a half months I was there, and following that has been inconsistent, erratic, anti-science, the contrary to the science, and they simply lack critical thinking.

Now, the head of the task force actually was Dr. Birx, who was the medical task force coordinator who wrote all the policy advice to the states. She visited dozens of states. She came out all the local health officials. Dr. Fauci was not in charge but he was the most influential figure on the media to the American public. And what I saw on the task force was shocking.

That’s one of the reasons I wrote the book because we have to be aware that we can never let these kinds of people be in charge again. They were not critical thinkers. They’ve both been in government bureaucrat positions for 40 years.

I came in as a health policy scholar, 15 years of health policy work and 25 years of medical science research clinical work in some of the best medical centers. And so what I would do to the meetings, I would bring in a dozen, 20 different scientific publications, data from all over the world, and I would go through the data when I was asked my opinion. Their approach was something very different. Their approach was simply saying I’m an outlier or saying that, you know, most people agree that we should be doing lockdowns.

So, of course their position, their policy was lockdowns, restrictions, close schools, close businesses, curfews, quarantines. And this the policy during the entire year that was implemented by almost every governor. I visited only one state during my three and a half times there, and that was Florida, who did something very differently. And so, you know, we have a problem here because we have bureaucrats who were not critical thinkers.

They never cited the data. They never refuted anything I said with the data. And what’s more they never disagreed with each other. They had a pact that Birx revealed later, which was if one of them was fired they would all just quit, which is not exactly the attitude of people trying to help the country, in my opinion.

And secondly, I’ll give you another anecdote here. You know, I arranged — I wanted to make sure that the president had the most information possible from the experts of the world, of the country. So, I arranged a meeting. I brought in people from Harvard, Stanford, Tufts University, UCLA. These were the medical scientists who were doing the research on the pandemic, and they were there to answer the president’s questions. Dr. Birx was asked to come to the meeting. She refused. And, in fact, that almost scuttled the entire meeting, and then she explained to the meeting that there were, quote, parallel streams of data, unquote, being given to the president that she didn’t know about, as if she’s supposed to be the funnel.

So, this is the attitude of a bureaucrat, in my opinion. And my role had nothing to do with, you know, politics or anything else. I was there for one reason — because the country was off the rails, people were dying, the lockdowns were implemented, they failed to stop the spread of the infection, they failed to stop the dying, and they destroyed and inflicted a tremendous amount of harm on families and children, particularly at the lower income. The lockdowns were a luxury of the rich. And it was being instilled and implemented without knowing the data and without thinking through what was important.

BUCK: Dr. Atlas, it’s Buck. You know, we just got more information the last few days — I should say more pronouncements in from Fauci and the rest about boosters. We now are being told boosters are open to all adults. They’re gonna want to get boosters, I’m sure, soon for kids approved. And it seems like only a matter of time before they try to make the boosters mandatory. Fauci said we’re hoping that this booster will last longer than the vaccine and give better protection. Do they have any actual data or proof that that is something that is likely to happen? Because it seems to some of us like they just don’t want to tell us yet you’re gonna have to get the shot every six months, every whatever it is they come up with on the schedule.

DR. ATLAS: Yeah. I mean, here’s the problem is that their actions have — and their lack of transparency, frankly, have been harmful to the acceptance of the vaccine by people who actually would benefit from the vaccine. I mean, here — the data is the vaccines are protective against death, and that — that protection seems to last at least so far, except there is some data from Sweden that says it wanes, the protection against death wanes from people who are over 80. Okay. If you’re high risk it makes sense you should be taking the vaccine, high risk from covid. That means elderly with multiple comorbidities or young people who have these same comorbidities, that makes sense.

But to say that, you know, you need a booster. I mean, there are people who should think about getting the booster, the high risk people because the protection against infection after vaccinated sort of goes down tremendously really after three to six months. So, if you’re high risk, you know, you really should think about getting the booster.

But to say that children who have a very — healthy children have an extremely low risk from this disease. I mean, this is proven — this was known a year and a half ago when I said it. It’s been proven. It’s consistent. And so to say that a child must get a vaccine for a disease they have extremely low risk for, healthy children, and then in the vaccine where the technology is new — okay. This technology’s never been used for, an mRNA vaccine. We’ve only had it for not even a year. Most vaccines take five to 10 years to make sure we have safety and efficacy data.

Okay, so then to say, “Oh, we should start getting boosters,” okay, it’s fine that they’re available, but you have to realize, everyone should realize that the vaccine booster data, the safety has only been evaluated for like 30-day periods in Israel. Thirty days is not a safety evaluation. And to say you need a booster — if you’re protected against dying, that’s what’s important here.

Now, high risk people, okay. But, you know, people have to start thinking — here’s what’s happened, if I may. The trust in experts has gone, okay, it’s diminished, and that’s appropriate that it’s gone because they’ve destroyed it. They’ve issued — they’ve not looked at the data, these so-called experts. They’ve issued edicts and mandates on things that were anti-science. They denied the impact of natural immunity after recovery. We’re the only country in the world that does not allow for that.

We make believe somehow the experts here that protection does not come after being infected. that’s just anti-science. That’s denying basic immunology and the data on this virus. So, when they start doing these sorts of things, people have to realize, okay, we need to be critical thinkers ourselves for ourselves and our families. We need to find a doctor that’s rational. If we don’t have a doctor who’s a critical thinker, we need a new doctor, and we need to start analyzing and trusting people who are being consistent, who speak from the data, and who do not have an ulterior motive.

When you look at people — and I’m gonna put it this way — who have been in government bureaucrat jobs for 40 years, that’s not because they’re politically neutral. It’s because they are political themselves. It’s because they know how to navigate the system to make friends in the media, to make friends in the agencies.

When somebody like me came in, I had no interest — frankly, I wasn’t there to make friends. I had no secondary gain. I wasn’t getting a second position later on. I was there to stop people from dying and to add critical thinking.

So, I think at this point we, American people, have to have the sense to look through the stuff ourselves, to find people who we trust because we cannot just assume that the people in the CDC or in leadership positions in our country are really going by the data. I mean, we know this, not just in the vaccines. We look at the masks, we look at the studies that they ignore and just — you know, the whole thing is still off the rails, unfortunately.

CLAY: Talking to Dr. Scott Atlas. He’s the senior fellow for health policy at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, also has a new book out for you to check out: A Plague Upon Our House: My Fight at the Trump White House to Stop Covid from Destroying America.

Dr. Atlas, much of the red states, it appears, have basically gotten back to normalcy. I live in Tennessee. I’m down in Florida right now. I’ve been all over the South during football season. People are basically back to normal. You wouldn’t really know that covid existed but for airplane travel. When are the rest of the states in this country — you’re out in California. It’s madness still there. Buck is in New York City. How do we land the proverbial plane and get back to normalcy, in your mind? What’s that time frame?

DR. ATLAS: Yeah. I mean, that’s a good question, because what I say when I’m asked when will the CDC say this, when will Dr. Fauci say this, the answer is never. You must assume it’s never. There is no indication that the people in power in these states or at the national level are going to be start suddenly obeying the data or looking at the data. So this is an individual thing, in my view.

I’ve been shocked by two things. The number-one shock, the first shock was how the power of the government could be imposed upon Americans to restrict businesses, restrict personal movement, to do all these things, to require all of these things, but the biggest surprise was the acquiescence of the American people.

I think all of us are stunned; where are the independent thinkers in the country, the independent New Yorkers? Where are the Western people, who are just always valuing independent thought? We see protests going on in Europe by the thousands about these mandates, about these requirements, about these lockdowns. That’s not been a feature in the United States. This is surprising to me.

Now, you’re right. The states in Florida — I mean, again, like, I was adviser — one of the advisers to Governor DeSantis since last spring. You know, he looked at the data and people moved to Florida. The response was overwhelmingly positive because people want to live normal lives. So, 100 percent of people over 65 are vaccinated in Florida, as they are in 20 states now at this point. They’ve had at least one dose, which means they’ll get the second dose. That’s 100 percent in 20 states.

Once you’ve protected the high-risk people from dying, people should start thinking — the point is to live your life. The point is not to be in fear of a single virus and shut down society on the basis of that bizarre focus. The public health leadership in this country has been immoral. And they’ve abandoned what their basic responsibility was, which was to consider all health. They’ve never talked about the damage from the lockdowns and those damages were tremendous, particularly on our children. But the answer to the question is the end is when people decide that’s the end. That’s the only way this will end, in my opinion.

CLAY: Dr. Atlas, fantastic. We appreciate you. Encourage you to check out the book. And we look forward to talking to you again down the line somewhere in the future.

DR. ATLAS: Thanks for having me.

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Fauci Admits You’ll Need Boosters Every 6 Months

22 Nov 2021

CLAY: I wanted to play this for you ’cause yet another time where Buck Sexton and I are proven right. What did we tell you? That based on the nature of these vaccines, everybody was going to need to get boosters because they fade in efficacy very quickly after about six months.

Let’s just be clear about this. If you’re over 65 years old, this can make a lot of sense to do. My in-laws are down with us for Thanksgiving. They got their boosters already. My parents got their boosters. Buck Sexton’s parents also in that same age range got their boosters. But do the rest of us who are either with natural immunity or have already gotten our vaccine, do we need to really be getting the covid shot every six months for the rest of our lives? Fauci says yes. Play cut 15.

FAUCI: We would hope — and this is something that we’re looking at very carefully — that that third shot with the mRNA not only boosts you way up but increases the durability so that you will not necessarily need it every six months or a year. We’re hoping it pushes it out more. If it doesn’t and the data show we do need it more often, then we’ll do it.

BUCK: Time to say usage of the term “hope” here repeatedly is the tell. First of all, the fact that very much’s always talking about dynamics of infectious and things. He’s trying to press stupid people by saying, oh, he’s the smart guy who says the things like dynamics of information. But beyond that he’s saying hope. They have no data.

CLAY: Zero evidence that this is gonna suddenly end the need for more shots. Zero. Right? And so the idea that that’s going to happen is just absolutely ludicrous. What’s the over-under here, Buck? How long are people gonna need to get shots?

BUCK: A very long time.

CLAY: Like, forever?

BUCK: Forever.

CLAY: Like, how many shots are we actually gonna need to get? I mean, I think that’s the question, and there’s no answer for it. And I don’t think Scott Atlas is gonna have the answer for it, either. And he’s going to join us next.

BUCK: Yeah. I know. He is. He’s going to join us, and he’s going to be explaining to everybody how it is that Fauci comes to this designation where he says maybe this time the shot will be the last one or will last a lot longer. That goes against all we’ve seen is the shot is actually less long lasting than they thought with each passing month, even more failure in terms of prevention of infection.

“Breakthrough cases” isn’t even really a term you’d think that they should use anymore. And because it’s just happening all over the place, right? The breakthrough makes it sound like, “Oh, my gosh. It escaped from the lab.” No. It’s actually out there and it’s constantly happening in pretty large numbers. Really gonna say that if 30% of now cases are in the vaccinated or 25% with that’s some breakthrough? No, we were told this was gonna stop infection.

And we’ve also seen the virus mutate pretty rapidly. We’ve had numerous variants. We’ve all become familiar with that term in a short period of time. And so what makes anyone believe that this will be different? Well, it’s just like everything with Fauci. Forget everything he’s told you up until this point and then you can believe him.

But if you look at the track record of promises made in the past, of the incrementalism as it has played out with regard to mask mandates, with regard to mitigation measures, lockdowns, everything, what they say a few months ago goes to show you that they don’t really know what they’re telling today but they’re gonna act like they do so they can make you do what they want.

And that’s where Fauci is once again. What, they’re gonna have boosters, Clay, for everybody? They’re just opening it up to everybody but they’re not gonna start mandating it for everybody? You work for the federal government, guess what? You’re gonna be first. They gonna say, you get the booster every six months. That’s gonna be the plan.

CLAY: And what’s unique about this is, after all of this if he came out and said the covid shot is the flu shot. And if you contemplate historically, you may be able to think of somebody, Buck, I can’t think of anyone that has ever lost their job over the failure to get the flu shot. I can’t remember it ever happening in the history of the country.

And so right now, thankfully the Fifth Circuit has got OSHA not implementing this newest vaccine requirement but seems what they are secretly hoping is that if people go out and get the booster, it gets us through the winter, they could claim that the boosters had some level of success because we know with seasonality the numbers are going to go down until they start to go up again in the South because it gets hot and everybody goes inside, and that is the season when really it spreads widely.

And hopefully we’re not gonna have another Delta variant, but this is just not going away. And so at what point is there this recognition and realization that you’re not gonna be able to get your shots and end covid. Because that’s what they told us. That’s what Fauci said. Remember, it wasn’t that long ago back in May where they said, get your shots. This is over. You don’t have to wear masks anymore. And now we’re right back effectively to where we were before. Buck, I believe I’m correct there have already been more deaths in November of 2021 from covid even with the all of the vaccines than there were in November of 2020 last year when we were told that it was totally unacceptable.

BUCK: Think about how many deaths there have been over all this year. As we’ve discussed, more this year than last year in the United States. Last year there were — we know this — zero percent of the U.S. population vaccinated.

This year we have, what is it now, 60% overall plus you have another year of natural immunity built up too. So the numbers if you believe the vaccinations are highly effective — and I do believe natural immunity is highly effective — the numbers should be quite, you know, certainly much smaller than they were last year. But they’re not.

Now, I understand they could say, well, we didn’t really get the shots out ’til March. Okay. What if we even control for that? What happened this summer? What’s happening this fall? They keep saying it’s a pandemic of the unvaccinated. I think we can give this a few times and they’re going to say it’s a pandemic of the un-boostered.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And that if you are un-boostered you will become the new enemy because vaccine failure will be so widespread at that point they won’t be saying breakthrough cases anymore but you’ll be a reckless danger to the community if you don’t get the booster and I’d also just put this out there.

Australia’s actually taking people in military trucks now to quarantine sites, and it’s mandatory. Okay? That’s what they’re doing in Australia, everybody. Do you see Fauci come out and say that’s a bad idea, that’s a little too far, it’s a little too scary? It’s never too far for the Fauci.

CLAY: And the key is it’s not going away.

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