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Rep. Boebert Takes a Flamethrower to Censure Motion

18 Nov 2021

CLAY: We talked yesterday about the House debating whether or not to censure a Republican member who shares an anime video that had everybody all in a tizzy — and I gotta say, this was a flamethrower from Congresswoman Lauren Boebert who said basically: If you’re gonna come after our guys, I am going to (laughing) absolutely burn down your village.

If you haven’t heard this clip, listen to her on the House floor yesterday. Again, they’re debating whether or not to censure a Republican congressperson. And so she said, “Hey, let’s run through the list of all the things recently…” You’ll know who she’s talking about here without being able to say them by name, ’cause I think, Buck, in Congress you’re not supposed to attack people by name. So she’s just sharing some of the factual details surrounding them. Get your popcorn and listen to this.

BOEBERT: Since the speaker has designated the floor to discuss members’ inappropriate actions, shall we? The jihad squad member from Minnesota has paid her husband — and not her brother-husband, the other one — over a million dollars in campaign funds. This member is allowed on the Foreign Affairs Committee while praising terrorists! And then the cherry on top. My colleague — and three-month presidential candidate from California — who is on the Intelligence Committee slept with Fang Fang, a Chinese spy. This is unacceptable!


BUCK: Wow.

CLAY: (laughing) Oh-ho, Buck.

BUCK: She’s bringing Fang Fang into things here.

CLAY: Oh my goodness.

BUCK: Damn! This is… Woo!

CLAY: Don’t mess with the congresswoman from Colorado, Buck. She’s not bringing a knife to a gunfight. He’s bringing the AK.

BUCK: She is feisty over this one. I don’t know if you saw, there was then Ilhan Omar —

CLAY: Oh, she’s fired up.

BUCK: — slapped at Boebert on Twitter and made some comment. We could find it in a second, but it was essentially Ilhan Omar saying, you know, fortunately my family raised me right or something like that. And then there were a lot of blue check comments about the whole allegation of the marrying of the brother as an immigration scam thing. So things are getting a little —

CLAY: Feisty?

BUCK: — a little feisty in the congressional world right now, I gotta say. That’s definitely happening. And look, if you’re somebody who is watching the Democrats right now and you’re hoping that they’re gonna come up with some kind of narrative of success, I think you’re gonna be very disappointed. So it’s gonna get personal. They’re gonna go on offense and you’re gonna hear a lot about how Republicans don’t have the decorum and they’re insurrectionists and Trumpists and all this stuff, because what else are they gonna say?

CLAY: Oh, they don’t like when they get popped back. We talked about this before: Everybody’s got a plan ’til they get punched in the mouth. She punched some people in the mouth there.

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Judge in Rittenhouse Case Bans MSNBC from Building

18 Nov 2021

BUCK: Still no verdict in the Rittenhouse trial as I’m speaking right now. Welcome back to the Clay and Buck show. We are watching it minute by minute here as the coverage continues. The defense is pushing for a mistrial over a drone video, not a mistrial with prejudice. I believe that was already filed as a motion previously.

This would just be a standard mistrial, which would mean the state could bring the entire case again should they choose to do so. But we haven’t gotten a ruling on that yet. At issue here is the prosecution had substantially higher resolution video from a drone, ’cause remember there were riots going on with Biden voters running around burning things down and attacking people in the streets.

Some of them armed — and illegally armed at that, I might note. But the video shows one of the shooting incidents — the first shooting incident, I believe — between Rittenhouse and one of his three assailants. And they didn’t have the clarity, meaning the prosecution did not give — and under Brady disclosure they have to give especially any exculpatory evidence to the other side.

They didn’t give the highest resolution footage they had. They made it grainier and less easy to see. So that’s what the mistrial is about, but there’s something else which Clay just brought to my attention in the break here. The judge has come out and said that no one from… Well, actually let’s just hear it from the judge, Clay, and react. Play it.

JUDGE BRUCE SCHROEDER: Last evening, a person who identified himself as James J. Morrison and who claimed that he was a producer with NBC News and played… for MSNBC under the supervision of someone named Irene Bayonne in New York for MSNBC. The police when they stopped him — ’cause he was following at a distance of a block and went through a red light — pulled him over and inquired of him what was going on, and he gave that information. And stated that he had been instructed by Ms. Bayonne in New York to follow the jury bus. The matter is under further investigation at this point. I have instructed that no one from MSNBC news will be permitted in this building for the duration of this trial.

BUCK: Wow. No one from MSNBC. The evil commie network getting a slapdown.

CLAY: Now, to be fair, the investigation is ongoing. This could be some guy who claimed that he was an MSNBC employee and maybe he’s not actually, just to put that out there. I don’t know. People say crazy things. But if the judge is taking the step of banning everyone from MSNBC… We talk about the pressure that the jury is under, Buck, and the fear that so many of these private people have that their photographs will go on the internet, that people will dox them if they find Kyle Rittenhouse not guilty. This is a direct assault upon the independence of the judiciary in this scenario and of this jury group.

BUCK: Can I just say, is it really beyond the pale to think that this could have happened?

CLAY: No. No.

BUCK: Think about what CNN did with the Russian collusion lies.

CLAY: No, it’s not beyond the pale.

BUCK: They harassed private citizens at their homes because they were, like, fooled by a Russia Facebook group or something, like complete lunatics at CNN.

CLAY: Buck, they showed up — different media groups did — at the front porches of people who donated small amounts of money to Kyle Rittenhouse’s defense fund to ask them why they had done it.

BUCK: Yeah, to shame them. It was disgusting.

CLAY: So we’ll see whether or not this is accurate, but this is a pretty blockbuster move by the judge.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: Breaking news story about an NBC News, MSNBC (remember, NBC owns MSNBC; it’s the same company) employee who allegedly was trying to follow the Rittenhouse trial jurors in the bus taking them from the courthouse. We want to remind you of just exactly what happened. We got some updates on that one. This is big stuff because what’s going on with this jury right now?

Why is it taking so long to come to a verdict? Well, it’s because many of us — I am in this category; Clay is in this category — think that there is immense pressure that has intentionally been brought to bear by the left-wing apparatus in this country, of fear and coercion to undermine the jury’s ability to reach a verdict based on fact.

If they’re too terrified for their own safety and their family’s safety, how can this actually be a fair trial? Here is the judge. Just so we’re all very clear on what happened, here is the judge in this case, Bruce Schroeder, in the Kenosha courthouse saying, MSNBC, you are banned.

JUDGE BRUCE SCHROEDER: Last evening, a person who identified himself as James J. Morrison and who claimed that he was a producer with NBC News and played… for MSNBC under the supervision of someone named Irene Bayonne in New York for MSNBC. The police when they stopped him — ’cause he was following at a distance of a block and went through a red light — pulled him over and inquired of him what was going on, and he gave that information. And stated that he had been instructed by Ms. Bayonne in New York to follow the jury bus. The matter is under further investigation at this point. I have instructed that no one from MSNBC news will be permitted in this building for the duration of this trial.

BUCK: Can I just say, Clay, the officers pulled the car over, according to Judge Schroeder — this is from the New York Times — and the driver said he was a producer working with MSNBC, and that someone who worked for the network in New York had instructed him to follow the jurors. That is the quote.

CLAY: Buck, I am just… This is next level. This is next-level jury intimidation. Let’s break this down, okay? The judge here has already wanted to go full-on mistrial for a variety of reasons. But this goes to the heart of what we have been talking about, why you and I both believe we’re in the middle of day three of jury deliberation, because the evidence here is quite clear that Kyle Rittenhouse had, based on video…

It’s not like we’re just analyzing what people said. Based on video, in connection with testimony, he had the ability to use self-defense in this case. The jury, to me, is terrified of being doxed, of being outed, of being a target of the left-wing/woke mob which has decided that Kyle Rittenhouse is an evil wrongdoer; a racist; a school shooter; an insidious, awful human being.

That’s their narrative. This is unbelievable to me that you would get caught… MSNBC is trying to get all the information on these jurors that they can. Why are they doing this? Let me take a step back. I think the reason why they’re doing this is so whenever a verdict is reached or if it’s a hung jury, that they have the ability to try to get the jurors to tell them about what went on in deliberations.

The secondary part of this is so that they can identify who these jurors are. Can you imagine being on this jury right now? You’re under a high-stress environment already. You are being driven away from the courthouse. And there is a car in hot pursuit filled with someone who is reportedly filming you attempting to identify you, figure out who you are. And you’re supposed to be able to render justice without worrying about you and your family becoming targets? This is so infuriating to me, Buck.

BUCK: There’s an additional level here, too, for the jury pool that I’m sure is in their mind, and it’s they know that they’re not gonna be able to count on… They cannot count… Let’s say they reach a not-guilty verdict, which right now for a lot of people, it’s feeling like hung jury is where we’re heading right now for a lot of people.

CLAY: That’s what I would bet on right now, Buck. If you were to set odds of what’s going on here, based on us now in the third day of this case, I would bet on a hung jury, which means that they can’t reach a unanimous verdict. I would bet on nine to three, eight to four, 10 to two, maybe even 11 to one people wanting to vote not guilty.

But you can’t get a unanimous verdict right now and, therefore, you have a hung jury. They say we can’t… Nobody’s changing their minds. We debated this ad infinitum’ nobody’s changing their mind. And then it would get thrown back on the judge, who doesn’t seem to want to rule for a mistrial with prejudice, which would end this case.

Now, he’s hoping that the jury renders the not-guilty verdict, I think, based on him having sat there. I think he recognizes this should be a not-guilty verdict, and then the onus would be on this judge to decide, “Are you going to mistrial this with prejudice?”

BUCK: If he’s got a hung jury, he has to, right?

CLAY: A hung jury would just mean that they would have the right to come back.

BUCK: Right. But that means the judge declares…? It is a mistrial if it’s a hung jury, right?

CLAY: Yeah, but I’m saying the “mistrial with prejudice” ends the case. Is he willing to render this, based on all the craziness that’s been going on, a mistrial with prejudice, which would then be appealed?

BUCK: Right. That’s the additional level. So essentially, we get to the issue, “Are we gonna have this whole thing play out again?” which seems like if we’re at that stage, a distinct possibility. But back to the threat against the jurors here, which we’re all… By the way, there’s lots of threats about the judge. Why aren’t you hearing more about that? There are lots of threats against this judge, death threats against him and his family. This is so interesting when you hear about that in the media and when you don’t.

CLAY: Oh, of course.

BUCK: Almost like the psychotic left is going completely insane because they still act like Rittenhouse is a racist. He shot three white criminals, but somehow this is a racist thing. Rittenhouse, this is really ultimately… I still believe it’s just you’re not allowed to stand up against the left wing mob. They cannot allow people to think when the left wants to riot, armed citizens can say, “Not on my block, not today.”

But, Clay, the people that are targeted in this way who are on this jury — and now we know there’s a journalist that’s following them and there is clearly stuff going on. There’s been efforts to intimidate them from the very beginning as soon as they were on the jury. They can’t even count on the corporate media to come to their aid in terms of condemning.

The media, if they voted for acquittal and then were targeted, they know, just says, “Well, they kind of voted the wrong way.” They don’t even have the people who are supposed to be supportive of the system and believe in justice and all that to catch their back because if you’re a Democrat and there’s an acquittal here, you’re going to say, “That was injustice and the people who were a part of it maybe have to face some of their own consequences.”

CLAY: They should be held accountable. That’s what this is about, and it’s about intimidation at its most basic level, and regardless of what your particular pertaining is on any case, the idea that a major media organization should be stalking effectively jurors like this and should be chasing them and running red lights and having the police necessitating, trying to figure out, “Hey, what kind of threat are these jurors under based on the behavior of this driver?”

And for NBC to not be able to deny it… By the way, some of these NBC journalists, Buck, have basically ended all of their social media profiles. So the people who were named by the judge in the Rittenhouse case, many of them are completely wiping clean now their social media accounts, which certainly doesn’t make you look any more innocent when you’re just trying to hide.

BUCK: So just so everyone’s clear also, I wanted to check to make sure. So if there’s a hung jury, there are two options. The judge can say, “Go back and don’t be a hung jury anymore,” but that doesn’t —

CLAY: It’s not ever gonna change, and then you get a mistrial.

BUCK: It is a mistrial. There are only two options: either mistrial or go back and don’t be a hung jury anymore.

CLAY: Yeah, and then what we’ve been debating whether the judge is willing to do is take that next step and say, “This is a mistrial with prejudice,” meaning this case can’t be brought anymore.

BUCK: But, no, it can because they can appeal it.

CLAY: Usually the trial court judge is granted great discretion by the appellate courts.

BUCK: Higher bar, the state would have a higher standard of restriking it.

CLAY: It’s a high standard to overall him. You’re right that that would potentially be appealed and stay in the courts, but it would be a massive win for Rittenhouse if the trial court judge said, “This is a mistrial with prejudice,” ’cause it would basically make the state have to overturn and prove that he had misruled in making that decision.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: MSNBC is under fire for potentially chasing jurors and trying to intimidate them, potentially dox them down the line. Buck, George Floyd trial. What’s the reaction if Fox News is chasing the jurors on the George Floyd trial, the Derek Chauvin trial, and they are pulled over by police and banned from the courtroom because of potential jury intimidation?

BUCK: They’d burn stuff down. You’re actually… You’re talking about a certainty of riots — and, by the way, not the rioters, but the narrative would be that Fox or whoever followed them would be responsible for the riots.

CLAY: That’s right, and they would also argue every advertiser who spends any money with Fox News has to pull out. They don’t deserve to be carried as a cable network. I just want to contextualize you and everybody out there listening as you see the way the MSNBC’s egregious behavior is covered. Pretend that Fox News had done it during the Derek Chauvin trial, and think about the way that the media would cover it compared to how they’re gonna cover it with MSNBC.

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Despite Vaccine, Covid Surges in Northeast, Midwest

18 Nov 2021

CLAY: We have got all sorts of different issues with covid cases now surging all over the Northeast, all over the Midwest. You’ll recall that during the summer we told you covid was seasonal in the South. Everybody was piling on the red states. Everybody was piling on Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott and all the big state governors in the South.

And now that the blue states are surging — if you look at the numbers honestly — at an unbelievable rate; suddenly, nobody is blaming any of the governors at all, and it’s totally vanishing as a political related story at all. When you can’t blame the red states, everybody runs in the opposite direction. But what’s going on right now? Michigan, covid cases up 83%, blue state governor. Minnesota, covid cases up 62%, blue state governor.

New Mexico, covid cases up 43%, blue state governor. New Hampshire up 78%, blue state governor. Wisconsin up 53%, blue state governor, and Vermont. The six states that are growing the fastest right now, according to the New York Times database, have blue state governors. And this is big deal, Buck, because Joe Biden ran his basement campaign selling everybody the idea of “I’ll fix covid. I’ll trust the science.

“Donald Trump isn’t handling covid right; I will,” and as covid isn’t disappearing, Joe Biden’s overall approval ratings are tanking at a level, frankly, combined with Kamala Harris that we’ve never seen before. Quinnipiac came out with a new poll, Buck: 36% Joe Biden approval (a new low), 53% disapproval, and listen to this: 29% approval from independent voters, 56% of them disapprove. This is crazy.

BUCK: So remember Biden was… I think that’s a critical point. He was supposed to fix covid with the hundred days of masking. Remember when people were clapping like trained seals? “Yay! A hundred days of masking!”

CLAY: That can solve it.

BUCK: (impression) “It’s mask! Mask! No joke. Here I am! Mask a hundred days, hundred days.”

CLAY: He said it would go away. He said covid would disappear.

BUCK: Look, there’s what was said — and I think this is fair across the board. There’s kind of what was said in the first 30 to 60 days of covid when we’re all, “Oh, my gosh,” and it was crazy, and then there’s what you say. Six months, a year, 18 months into covid, right? These are different things, much broader data sets, much more actual experience.

Biden was supposed to get all this under control. Here we are now with OSHA saying they’re not going to implement, as it stands right now — could change, the legality of it, but they’re not gonna implement — the mandate. I think there was just a… Yes. Here we go. In Forbes there was a study that nearly a third of health care workers in U.S. hospitals, Clay, are still not vaccinated. Health care workers! They must be so anti-science. They’re not vaccinated.

CLAY: They all had it, by the way.

BUCK: Of course! They’ve been exposed. We’re not tracking natural immunity the way that we should. The CDC doesn’t seem to care about natural immunity for quite — I think at this point — manifestly obvious reasons. But it’s amazing that they can’t even really explain what’s going on. You’re starting to see the, like, “Well, we don’t really know what’s going on.” Vermont. You’ve been bringing up Vermont a lot. I dug into the numbers on Vermont. Right now, they want to tell you, “Oh, the narrative is two-thirds of patients in the hospital and hospitalizations are rising.”

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Vermont’s a small state, but it’s a little bit like… What was that? What was it, the Princess Cruise or…? It was that cruise ship that was almost like a floating petri dish of “How dangerous is covid? How quickly does it spread?” all of that. Vermont — if you’re looking at a case study for vaccination — is very interesting because it’s a state that actually had a low in connection with rate overall compared to other states.

So not a lot of natural immunity relatively speaking but a very high — I believe the highest in the country — per capita vaccination rate, right? You’ve seen that too. Right. So what they’re telling you right now is, “Whoa, two-thirds of hospitalized covid-19 patients in Vermont…” By the way, it’s from ABC and New York Times. This isn’t Buck’s RightWingCrazyBlog.com, so Media Matters can stuff it.

But here you go. Two-thirds of hospitalized covid patients are unvaccinated. That means a third of the people in the hospital right now, let’s call it 30 to 35%, are fully vaccinated. That is not insignificant. That is far higher than what we were led to believe for POS most. Now, I know they’ll say, “Oh, but it’s better! It’s better!”

This is the mentality of, “Okay, if six feet of distancing doesn’t work, let’s try 10! If one mask doesn’t work, let’s try two.” There are limits to what we should put ourselves through for limited efficacy in battling this virus with these different measures and mitigation tools that are out there.

CLAY: No doubt. And also, did you see Fauci came out and said that the CDC is going to have to potentially change their definition of what “fully vaccinated” means to take into account the boosters, so that people out there listening who went and got their covid vaccine and just said, “Okay, I got my vaccine. Leave me alone,” you now — in some locations — are not going to classify as fully vaccinated unless you got your vaccine and then you’ve also gotten your boosters. Where does this ever end?

BUCK: They’re going to mandate boosters. When I say “they,” it may not be everywhere. It may not be possible for them to do it through OSHA and the federal government. They’re gonna do it in California. They’re gonna do it in New York. The definition of “fully vaccinated” is gonna change, and they have to change the definition because otherwise if people realize is there is no other rolling vaccination campaign like this we’ve ever, ever been subjected to — certainly not that’s mandatory. We do call it the flu shot because we understand why… You know, when was the last time you got the flu, Clay? Have you had it recently? I had it like six years ago.

CLAY: A good question.

BUCK: I was rest for like 10 days.

CLAY: I haven’t had it in a long time.

BUCK: Yeah, I actually had it like six years ago and I remember I felt like… I actually was on Fox & Friends, and it was super early in the morning. I think it was on like 6 a.m., and I thought maybe I didn’t get enough sleep, maybe I was a little hung over. I can’t tell anybody that, but I was like, “I don’t feel so good. I started dripping with sweat and started to shake,” and said, “Gosh, I don’t get nervous about TV. I’m really sick,” and finished the hit.

It just came on me so fast. But the point I’m making is if you could avoid the flu every year by getting a flu shot, trust me, you would want to do it. A lot of people know that… It’s like a 50, 60% shot, maybe some years 70%, and they miss and they have to guess and there’s different strains, different immunity. It’s super complicated, and that’s the way we’ve organized society around this for how many decades now. That’s the only way we should be organizing against covid too.

CLAY: I agree. And, by the way, as bad as getting the flu is — when it runs through your family, when you’ve got kids — you have that awful feeling where, like, one kid gets it, and then you’re like, “Okay, I got take care of this kid. They’re throwing up. They’re pooping everywhere,” and you’re like, “I’m definitely gonna get it.” But you have that hanging over your head, and it just, like, is like a slow-moving disaster through the household, right, where every single…

BUCK: Is this your, like, advertisement for why I need to get married and have kids, too, by the way?

CLAY: I will tell you. I will tell you there is nothing worse than kid gets sick and you know you’re gonna get it and your wife might get it and the other kids get it. So the reason I was asking — and in your head, the whole family got the flu. It’s probably been about five or six years ago. But the flu that hits a household is such a slow moving disaster for, like, two weeks everybody feels like crap and then somebody gets it, somebody else gets it. But, yeah, you’re right. I mean, that is where we are headed with covid is you’re gonna have to make a decision, “Do you get the flu shot or not?”

BUCK: And when you see the data in Vermont.. I want to pull it ’cause I hate ever giving the wrong number. Oh, by the way, correction. We talk getting right. I said Bruce Ratner wrote the op-ed yesterday. I meant Steven Rattner, who was Obama’s… I don’t even know who Bruce Ratner is. I don’t know why that name was even in my head. Isn’t there a Ratner who’s a movie director?

CLAY: I was gonna say, I think Bruce Rattner, ’cause I was like, “Oh, yeah, I know that guy.” But I feel like there’s a Bruce Ratner who does, is involved in, like, in entertainment.

BUCK: Neither here nor there. Just a correcting ’cause we like to get things right. It was Steve Rattner who wrote the op-ed and who is a private equity guy. Point being, though, over 90% of senior citizens in Vermont are vaccinated — fully vaccinated — and they’re rushing to get the boosters as fast as they possibly can. There we go. Thank you.

CLAY: Over 98% are fully vaccinated, 65 and up in Vermont.

BUCK: And so what this is showing us, though, their whole premise is, “Well, you have to protect them from even being exposed to the virus as much as possible because even if they’re vaccinated, they could still be at risk.” Well, 30% of the hospital folks — not 3%, 30%. Does any…? And can I just take a step back on this for a second, Clay. If I had told somebody three months…

If you had sat down with Fauci three months ago and said, “Sir, what percentage of people do you think will be hospitalized in a state like Vermont who are vaccinated versus…?” He would have said, “You know, 95%, 98% of the people who are in the hospital would be the unvaccinated.” That’s not the case at all. So now we look at this and we say it can’t stop you from getting it, it doesn’t stop you from spreading it.

Yes, it reduces, but we are talking about reductions when we were promised effective control. And that was the illusion of Fauci and the rest of them. “We can control this virus with the vaccine. We can do some mitigation of the spread of it and some mitigation of death and hospitalization.” But that’s only if you keep the shots going as it stands right now for every six months?

CLAY: We don’t know. That’s the thing. You can set an over-under and say, “You’re gonna have get eight shots between now and two years from now in order to be protected in some way against covid.” It’s wild.

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Build Back Better Promises an Inflation Disaster

18 Nov 2021

CLAY: Significant news in the House, Buck. They’re trying to pass the Bernie budget, the Joe Biden budget, whatever you want to say, the Build Back Better, inflation-laden disaster of a bill. They’re supposed to get the Congressional Budget Office scoring — in other words, what this costs — today, and they’re gonna try to push it through tonight in the House.

BUCK: They’ve been telling you that it will add nothing to the debt and that it is paid for.

CLAY: All lies.

BUCK: My friends, that is what would call in reality land “a lie,” and one of the big ways that they try to get there… Remember, it has to be a lie that they at least think they can defend, right? It has to be something where they’ll make a case for their side. If it’s too obvious a falsehood, then that’s contrary to their purposes. What they’re doing is creating all these programs.

They’re pushing all this money into things and then they’re essentially putting in a “sunset” provision. Unless we reauthorize the spending for universal pre-K or whatever it might be, unless we reauthorize it, it doesn’t necessarily continue. We all know once a government program is created —

CLAY: It never dies.

BUCK: — it continues, and so they pretend that it will only be let’s say four or five years of spending in an outlay when it’s gonna be forever essentially. But the budget is gonna be over a 10-year period is how they score this, and so they’re just playing accounting games. They’re playing tricks with the numbers to make it seem at a time of rising inflation like they aren’t doing the one thing… Never mind college-level Econ 101. I think if you ask a lot of high school kids, “What will happen if you print more money and there’s inflation?” A lot of them are gonna be like, “You’re gonna cause more inflation.”

CLAY: I talked about this, Buck. You probably remember this when you were a kid… I remember seeing stories about the national debt when I was a kid and I remember thinking, “Well, how can the government ever be in debt if they can always just print more money,” and when you’re a kid you have a childlike understanding of economics.

That’s the understanding that the Democratic Party has right now. Buck, even some of the adults in the Democratic Party who used to serve under Obama are now coming out and saying, “You guys are mad men in thinking that you can add this many trillions of dollars and there aren’t gonna be major inflationary consequences.”

BUCK: The thing about inflation is that people feel it and they know it and it’s real. Oh, did you see? Oh, wait, wait, wait! I got an inflation thing I want to bring to everyone’s attention. I got all excited and I almost left this out. The New York Times is supposed to be a place where smart people work.

CLAY: Oh yeah. Yeah, I saw it.

BUCK: As we know, they came after the Buckster, and then they had to get schooled. They’re gonna come after the Clayster soon.

CLAY: Oh, no doubt. No doubt it’s gonna happen.

BUCK: Just waiting for that Clay Travis hit piece to come out. But don’t worry. We’re in the bunker. We’ll take down the commies together. But there’s a New York Times writer, Sarah Jeong, who tweeted out… This is amazing. The New York Times is supposed to be where all the smart people all work. She tweeted out, quote:

BUCK: Okay. Let me just say, that’s the exact opposite of what —

CLAY: It’s so bad.

BUCK: It’s amazing because people that have assets, if your money in the stock market, look where the stock market is. If you have a home, look where your home price is right now. Inflation helps those who already own! She had the exact reverse understanding of who’s being hurt by this. This is who works at these places, folks. They’re not smart! They’ve checked boxes and they’re libs.

CLAY: It’s basic economics, Buck. I retweeted and responded to that because I saw that yesterday right after our show ended and the idea that you would think that inflation harms rich people more than it harms poor people is so insanely dumb that you lack a fundamental understanding of economics. And basically, the easy way…

You pointed out the rich assets as they increase in value. But simple fact is, the more money you have to spend of your take-home pay on goods, the more you are impacted. Inflation is a default tax on the poor. Not understanding that is embarrassing for someone who is in a position like that.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: Clay and Buck show continuing here trying to tell folks to get ready for the inflation nation situation that is gonna be unfolding next year because of the Biden administration. Sorry. Now it’s actually more rhymes than I intended. The Biden administration is pushing this stuff despite what all common-sense, historical knowledge, math would tell them they should do.

If you’re wondering, and here’s Joe Biden still with the spending trillions of dollars — the government is spending trillions of dollars — after already spending 1.9 trillion earlier this year, after spending trillions in 2020 to pay people to stay home, isn’t gonna make inflation worse ’cause (impression), “No joke,” or whatever Biden says.

BIDEN: (echo) Two of the leading rating agencies on Wall Street confirmed today — not a liberal think tank; two Wall Street outfits — that the economic proposals we put forward for the nation — the infrastructure law we just signed and the Build Back Better plan are being considered this week in Congress — will not add to inflationary pressures in the economy.

CROWD: (applause)

BIDEN: (screams) The one! (sputters) Here’s what one under the agencies said, and I quote. “The bills do not add inflation pressures.” Let me repeat that: “Do not add inflation pressures.” The reason? Because the policies I propose, quote, “help lift longtime economic growth by strong report activity, labor force growth as well as taking the edge off inflation.”

BUCK: Joe Biden has invented, Clay, a chocolate cupcake that never runs out, that tastes more delicious than anything else you ever eaten and doesn’t actually have any calories. There you go! Endless amounts of eating chocolate cupcakes with no downside and you never run out. You can believe that and then you can believe what Biden says because it’s magical thinking.

CLAY: It’s magical thinking, Buck, and it’s not even supported by the Obama Democratic regime, the one that he was the vice president for. Their economic advisers are coming out and saying, “It’s nonsensical to expect that you can pour trillions of dollars into the economy and that the economy is not going to get overheated,” and this just comes back to one of our consensus — and I would say consistent — storylines here.

The Democratic Party doesn’t have people who understand basic business anymore. They have abandoned the idea of capitalism in much of the Democratic leadership, and they have if fantastical line of thinking that they can spend money as much as they want, and they can go into debt as much as they want, and they can flood this country with cheap dollars and that it’s not going to increase the overall cost of goods.

When every single person listening us right now who has to fill up their car, when every single person out there who’s going to be going out to buy things for Thanksgiving, is seeing — literally coming out of their wallet — monster increases in what things are costing. And, by the way, that default tax on the poor is actually leading to a net pay decrease for so many workers out there.

BUCK: And certainly, no doubt still recovering from her extensive Indigenous Peoples’ Day celebration, Elizabeth Warren is out there —

CLAY: Pocahontas.

BUCK: — out there talking about increased gas prices, and this is what she says, and she’s supposed to be one of the smart ones among the Democrats.

WARREN: We know exactly who the oil companies, what the oil companies pay attention to, what is their number one priority: Profit. And so think about it this way. If we really… This were just ordinary inflation, we might see prices go up. But prices at the pump have gone up. Why? Well, let me… let me give you a hint. Uh, Chevron, Exxon have doubled their profits. This isn’t about inflation. This is about price gouging for these guys!

BUCK: (impression) “My name is Elizabeth Warren and I don’t know how the market works. I don’t know how the oil industry works, but I’m a stupid person’s idea of what a smart person sounds like.”

CLAY: First of all, Pocahontas, I think, is the funniest nickname that Trump ever gave any candidate. That literally makes me laugh every time he would say Pocahontas, and look, of course the oil companies’ goal is to make money. Their for-profit businesses. This is not a revolutionary concept. The reason why oil prices are going up to a large extent is because the Democratic Party destroyed the energy independence that we had created which gave us more bargaining power with OPEC because OPEC couldn’t control completely all of the global price of oil when the United States was creating and producing massive amounts of energy.

When Biden came in, they immediately curtailed — and they’re trying to curtail it even more, creating more pricing power for OPEC and again the overall price increases everywhere. I believe gas prices are up 50% over last year at this exact same time, but that’s not unique in America. Many prices are up, and that’s significant and major.

BUCK: Democrats are still worried about this, too, because historically people — a lot of people who vote — really don’t like high gas prices.

CLAY: No doubt.

BUCK: It’s one of these things where they can tell you as much as they want, “Oh, but, you know, we’re doing such a great job and we’ve made millions of jobs,” like they’re just creating jobs in some job factory somewhere, right, where they’re just rolling them off the assembly line as if that’s Joe Biden’s, in some way, purview. The reality is people are seeing the prices.

They are seeing the costs of filling up their car, for filling up a tank of gas. And everything about this the Democrat Party is ultra-hostile toward fossil fuels now. They’ve really jumped the shark on this one. They’ve gone completely nutso, which is why they talk about the need to treat climate change as an urgent national security emergency.

And they’re hoping that, I think, some of the complacence and authoritarianism of covid will spill over into their climate agenda stuff. It’s a big part of the Build Back Better agenda, by the way. A lot of that money going toward the imaginary problem of the world ending because of CO2 emissions.

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How Low Can Joe’s Approval Go?

18 Nov 2021

BUCK: The Biden administration’s got problems — we know that — and they don’t have a way of turning it around very easily. Now, that’s in part because Biden is — as we all thought he would be — a facade, a Trojan horse for a far more left-wing the Democrat Party than what he pretended to be representing as a candidate in 2020.

And we see. Whether it’s the failure at the border, the rise of inflation, any number of areas of incompetence — the withdrawal from Afghanistan, all these different things that have shown that Biden team can’t get it done — they have to come up with the media who are in Biden’s pocket. Just imagine for a second that Biden had to deal with what Trump did.

A corporate journo establishment that is 95% devoted to nothing but the eradication, the destruction of a presidency, willing to lie ruthlessly and relentlessly about Russia collusion to try to undermine him. Imagine what befuddled Joe Biden would sound like with that going on.

BIDEN: (slurring) More fires in the West, burned-to-the-ground homes, businesses and forests than the entire state of New Jersey from Cape May to New York City. This is the United States of America, for God’s sake! And why is it happenin’? Well, the severe storms that are knocking down all the wires. Anyway, there’s a lot going on! We have to… This law builds back our bridges, our water systems, our power lines, our grids, and for better and (pause) stronger resilience.

BUCK: You know, Clay, in the Washington Post… Just to give a sense of what I said a second ago about the corporate media, here is a piece in the Washington Post about the current president, given all the problems that are going on. “Joe Biden’s entire life has been crafted, in many ways, around cars — the affection for automobiles as much a part of him as his Irishness and his love of ice cream.

“As Biden again gets behind the wheel, reupping a ‘I’m a car guy’ take on Biden.” That was in the Washington Post today. Do you remember anything like that when Donald Trump was president about his Irishness and his charm?


CLAY: We talked about this, Buck. If the media weren’t biased — this is just fun for everybody out there to think about — there would have been inaccurate stories about Donald Trump that were beneficial for him, right? We know all of the lies that were spread about Donald Trump. But if it were just media incompetence and not agenda-driven anti-Trump narratives, then there would be some great stories out there that might not be true.

I’ll just make one up. Donald Trump gave $20 million to the kids at the Make-A-Wish Foundation, right? I’m just making that up. That story could be out there and you’d be like, “oh, that was really nice of Donald Trump to give $20 million to Make-A-Wish,” and then it comes out that he didn’t actually give $20 million to Make-A-Wish. But it’s a story that was wrong that would have been very beneficial to Trump.

Every single person listening to us right now all across the country, all the podcasts — none of them — think about how crazy this is, Buck. There is no positive story about Donald Trump that spread widely, that went viral, and was later determined to be untrue. Now, compare that with all the awful stories about Trump that spread virally that later was proven to be untrue. That’s what agenda journalism is. If it was just incompetence, sometimes it would be incompetence in his favor. Never happened.

BUCK: We also know that they’re trying to explain to the American people this administration in the most favorable way they can, and they’re struggling in part because how do you explain this?

BIDEN: (slurring) Conversations around those kitchen tables that are both profound as they are ordinary. “How do I cross a bridge in a snowstorm?” What happen…? (sputtering) No, think about it. You know, you’re situa… What happens the bridge collapses and there’s a fire on the other side? It’s gonna take 10 miles longer to get to the fire! People could die. I mean, this is real! This is real stuff.

CLAY: All random sentences that are just mixed together that have no connection whatsoever. This is what, sadly, a mind that is grappling with dementia sounds like, Buck. Every time I listen to that, I just think, “My God. This is so uncomfortable, and our country is in such an unfortunate position that this is the guy.”

BUCK: They’ve also created for a long time now this notion of good old Uncle — or now Grandpa — Joe that everybody can count on. He’s such a good guy. Sure, he says things a little off the cuff sometimes but you know, he’s a charming Irishman with a big grin who likes cars and ice cream. They created this whole story around the guy. Joe Biden’s actually a jerk, folks.

What people don’t realize is he’s actually not a super-nice guy at all, and if you want an Exhibit A on this one, Joe Biden used for a long time to tell a story and the story was about the very tragic death of his wife and his young daughter in a car accident. Now, that’s horrible. Joe would tell the story, obviously a tragic event, a lot of political sympathy came to him as well.

He told the story for many, many years. Which fine, right? This a real life event, and obviously Bo and Hunter Biden were in the car too. They survived. The issue is that multiple times in public giving speeches, Joe Biden claimed because it was an even more tragic story that the driver of the truck that hit his wife’s car was drunk. That is a lie. That is a lie.

It is not true. That actually affected the life of that truck driver because he then became known as the guy who killed Joe Biden’s wife ’cause he was driving drunk, even though that is a lie. Joe Biden said this numerous times. They’ve actually had to do fact checks on this. He didn’t care, Clay, because it was too valuable a story to tell in that way.

Who does that? By the way, what happened was his wife tragically blew through a stop sign and was hit by a semi. It was a car accident. It was not truck driver’s fault, but he said multiple times in public driver was drunk. That’s a reckless thing to say. It’s a wrong thing to do. Joe Biden’s not some cuddly grandfather, folks. That’s just the act.

CLAY: And, unfortunately, he’s not even a good actor anymore, Buck, because acting requires cognitive ability that he doesn’t have. And again, going back to the larger bias at play here — and I think we need to keep hammering it on this show because I don’t hear very many people talking about it. We spent years talking about the 25th Amendment and Donald Trump. Have you heard a single legitimate debate on CNN or MSNBC…?

Every time Donald Trump misspoke, it was “evidence” that his brain had deteriorated. He had to take a cognitive test. “He cheated on the cognitive test! There’s no way he could pass it!” They had doctors on to analyze his mental capacity. Buck, over half of people in a recent poll — over half, and this is a very divided country, but over half — said Joe Biden has dementia, that his brain is not working well.

BUCK: And the problem, Clay, is that they used identity politics as a primary decision-making point on who the vice president would be, and now we’re seeing what do the American people actually think of the vice president and the role she’s in? No one thinks she’s particularly adept or capable or even likable, and so this is how she pushes back on it.

HARRIS: Month after month after month I’ve traveled around the country as has the president. We have convened members of Congress. We’ve convened people around our nation asking, “What do you want?” And this is a response to what they want. And it’s actually gonna hit the ground in a way that is gonna have direct impact on the American people. We’re getting things done, and we’re do get it together.

REPORTER: So you don’t feel misused or underused?

HARRIS: No, I don’t. I am very, very excited about the work that we have accomplished, but I am also absolutely, absolutely clear-eyed that there’s a lot more to do and we’re gonna get it done.

BUCK: Clay, every time I hear Kamala speak it really reminds me of being in a brutally useless H.R. meeting like one of those H.R. trainings that you don’t want to sit through where they’re telling you things you already know and no one needs to hear, but the person telling you knows you have no choice; you have to listen.

CLAY: I think this is also a function, Buck, of what one-party rule creates. She came out of California. Nobody was really a viable opponent to her. The media was cheering for her and as a result she didn’t develop political skills that analyzed the best attributes of her side and the other side. And she seems wildly uncomfortable in her own skin. Does that it makes sense? Everything she does feels like it’s an actress who isn’t particularly talented at being an actress trying to pretend to be something. She doesn’t ever seem like a real person.

BUCK: Oh, she lacks authenticity when she is speaking to the American people.

CLAY: But she feels like she’s a bad actress along the way.

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A Glimpse of Trump-DeSantis ’24 at the Patriot Awards

18 Nov 2021

CLAY: Ron DeSantis came out at the Patriot Awards that Fox Nation did — I think it’s gonna air on Fox News soon — and did you see this? While I’m in Florida, I wake up this morning and I see a headline, Buck. DeSantis is signing anti-covid vaccine mandate laws in Brandon, Florida, today.

BUCK: Ronnie D. is the man.

CLAY: How unbelievable is that?

BUCK: Ronnie D. is the man. It’s fantastic.

CLAY: There were a lot of Trump-DeSantis chants. If you right now, Buck, presume that Trump is going to run, is there a better running mate for Trump, ’cause if he wins — which I think he would — he only gets four years. So the VP selection is gonna be massively important. We know he’s not gonna go with Pence again. Would you go Trump-DeSantis beyond a shadow…? Would you sign up for that ticket right now in ’24?

BUCK: Oh, absolutely. I think no question.

CLAY: Is that the best one?

BUCK: Yeah, that’s based on what I see right now. Do you have an alternative that you think is even in the same category of excitement right now for the base, for the folks across the country listening? I don’t think so. I think that would be… I think that’s like a super team.

CLAY: I think it is — and, look, that’s assuming Trump decides to run, because, obviously, there will be a wide open primary if Trump doesn’t decide to run and DeSantis would probably be one of the people running for president. But down here in Florida seeing the reaction that he got in person at this event — and also thinking about the fact that Trump would only have four years — his VP selection would be so important.

I think that DeSantis would be an incredible choice for him. It takes Florida off the map to the extent that it’s on the map at all, and I think everybody listening to us right now would be ecstatic to run to their polling place and vote for that ticket. I really do. I think it’s the best possible ticket that’s out there.

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Kenosha Trial Supercharges the Left’s Obsession with Race

18 Nov 2021

BUCK: One thing that’s been fascinating to watch play out as we’ve seen the facts in this trial shatter the initial media narrative about “Kyle Rittenhouse is a white supremacist, Kyle Rittenhouse as a active shooter, as an evildoer,” is that somehow the narrative of racism continues. He shot three white guys. He’s a white guy. They all attacked him. They all have extensive criminal records — and yet it’s a story about racism.

Here is Joy Reid, who does manage… It is actually something of a skill. She does manage to take anything and somehow make it about white supremacy, white racism. Here she is taking the Rittenhouse trial, which anyone who’s been watching understands is in no way, shape, or form about Kyle Rittenhouse being a racist, but she still thinks — and, oh, by the way, for good measure, brings in none other than the Supreme Court justice Brett Kavanaugh into the discussion.

REID: (melodramatic music) This Kyle Rittenhouse trial. It reminded a lot of people of something, something that can’t remember what it was. Oh! The Brett Kavanaugh hearings in which Brett Kavanaugh — who had been accused by a high school friend of committing (pause) sexual abuse of her cried his way through (pause) the hearings. In America, there’s a thing about both white vigilantism and white tears, particularly male white tears, really white tears in general.

(snickering) They “Karen” out, and then as soon as they get caught (blubbering) it’s supreme water works. White men can get away with that, too. And it has the same effect. Even as the right tries to politicize the idea that masculinity is being robbed for American men by multiculturalism and woke-ism, they still want to be able to have their tears.

BUCK: Clay, can I just ask, do you think there is an extent of anti-white rhetoric that MSNBC would not be okay with at this point? I just wonder, is there an outer limit to viciousness and sadism from the anchors over there? I’m curious.

CLAY: Buck, pretend that Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity or Laura Ingraham did the exact same bit Joy Reid just did but they said instead of white men, black men, Hispanic men, Asian men. Is there any doubt that all of the woke vigilantes out there would immediately demand that they be fired for racism? This is the thing that I think is significant here.

We have created a world where white people can be attacked based on their race that is not allowed in any way anywhere else. These are the peculiar rules of identity politics. And, Buck, what it does is corrode everything. Because if you’re not applying consistent standards… First of all, if you’re basing anything… Let me just be clear on this.

If you are basing anything — success, failure, significance, insignificance — on someone’s race, you are an imbecile, because that is the definition of racism to say somebody did this because of the color of their skin or someone can or cannot do this because of the color of their skin. And this is the sort of convoluted, circular logic that we have arrived at where now modern-day left-wing wokeists are the most racist people in America.

And there’s not even a close second to them, Buck, and so Joy Reid is not intelligent. She doesn’t make ever-strong arguments. All she does is embrace identity politics and cancel culture, which are the twin pillars of Democratic Party association now, which are going to destroy the Democratic Party, and she is going to be leading them right off the cliff into oblivion.

BUCK: You see this with even the left’s approach to CRT and the parents who are upset about CRT being taught to their kids. You’re supposed to submit to a leftist, Democrat narrative of anti-whiteness — of whiteness, white supremacy as bad things, inherently oppressive. You’re supposed to say, “You’re right,” and the game is, that in and of itself is evidence of your racism as a white person. If you won’t sit there and say, “White Fragility is a great book. It’s not idiotic, it’s amazing!”

If you won’t sit there and say, “You know what? I should teach my kids that somehow the sins of their ancestors fall upon their heads today in America, and they are guilty just because of their white skin color…” This is the kind of rhetoric that is all over the place among Democrats. They put these people on TV who will speak about this as though there’s some kind of PhD in anti-whiteness.

They create these pseudo-academic frameworks for the discussion. And, Clay, some people on the left are finally realizing — even irrespective of whether there’s any truth, veracity, any reality behind some of these different frameworks for analyzing race in America — if they stay with the CRT is either a fiction or parents who don’t like it are bad, they’re going to get annihilated in the midterm election.

I think Bill Maher… We’ve brought him up several times — again, definitely a liberal but does have… You can have a rational discussion with him. I’ve done it before on certain topics, and he even admits that on this issue of essentially anti-white racism —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — which the left says does not exist, by the way; it’s impossible to be racist against white people. (They’re wrong.) Bill Maher, Clay, says this is a big problem.

MAHER: We learned about the Civil War. I mean, they mentioned racism. We understood slavery and Lincoln and blah, blah, blah. But they didn’t really go into it any more than Gone With the Wind goes into it. It was there, but you didn’t feel it viscerally. Now we’re doing that, and I think that’s a good thing. People should understand that. That’s different than teaching that racism is the essence of America.

That’s what people get upset about. Or involving children who are probably not old enough or sophisticated enough to understand this very complicated issue. Kids are taught and sometimes separated into groups: Oppressor and oppressed. Again, does a kid even know what those words mean?

CLAY: I think this is so well said by Bill Maher, and what we should say also while we played the clip of Joy Reid, some of the foremost proponents of anti-white racism are white. In fact, that’s the primary cadre of woke liberals. It’s typically not black, Hispanic, or Asian people that are embracing anti-white tropes as much as it is “the woke.”

Your Brooklyn brethren in New York City, you can kind of look at ’em and feel like, “Okay. This is the kind of person who is going to come out and say, ‘White people are awful.'” The number of white people that run around on social media talking about how awful white people are and propagating modern-day racism, that’s the legion that I see, Buck.

Those are the people that are desperately to sort of advance this woke ideology is people who are driving the Democratic Party, like I said, right off the cliff. Most of them are not black women like Joy Reid. Most of them are white men and women of extremely liberal bent who have convinced themselves that America is a fundamentally awful place, and they define America entirely based on slavery.

And this is important, too, in a larger context, Buck. Slavery existed everywhere. We have this idea in America that uniquely America was a proponent of slavery and almost nowhere else in the world had slavery. It’s a flagrant misunderstanding of world history. Look, slavery is a stain and a sin on American history.

But in America — I think this is significant — slavery was only legal for 80 years, from 1783 when we gained our independence, to 1863 when Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This country had legal slavery for 80 years. Pre that, you should be angry at England which allowed slavery in the colonies when we had no actual independence.

And you can argue, “Well, we didn’t have the full fruition of equality in 1863 when the Emancipation Proclamation happened,” but for the vast majority of kids that are in school today, the idea that they’re responsible for something that happened 150 years ago is fundamentally, to me, barbaric and insane.

BUCK: Yeah. What are we actually supposed to do based upon this framework of whether it’s critical race theory or essentially the rhetoric coming out of the left today, which is that white supremacy is infused in everything about America? It’s infused in capitalism and free markets and the Constitution, our government. If everything around us is racist, well, then, what exactly are we supposed to do? The only answer to that — the only real answer to that — is to submit to and obey and give power to whomever is making that argument.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: The whole purpose of this is essentially is to deconstruct —

CLAY: It’s about power.

BUCK: It’s about power. It’s about to deconstruct America as we know it, the society all around us, and allow the people that are pushing this movement to reconstruct it in whatever way they see fit. It’s essentially — and this is why I do think the term “racial Marxism” is very apt here, because they do view this as a beachhead of sorts into creating an internal revolution.

Certainly, a cultural and political revolution from within America to undue so much of what has been built and kept this country together for a very long time and create a new image of America that is rooted in intersectionality and essentially oppression studies. And as you point out, Clay, if you actually know the history…

If one knows the history, they would know that there was a massive slave trade in the Mediterranean of white Christians by the Muslim slave traders. There were African tribes enslaving other African tribes, the Aztecs enslaving all the tribes around them here in the Americas. We can go on for literally hours.

CLAY: The Greeks. The Romans.

BUCK: There was slavery in Egypt. The Bible. We go back all over the place. What does that have to do with how we can make schools better today for everyone’s kids by adopting school choice, right? What does that have to do with the principle that we’re all equal in the eyes of God and in the eyes of the law in this country as individuals, human beings irrespective of skin color?

They are pushing constantly, the critical race theorists, a different approach — and, by the way, they keep doing this, “It’s not CRT.” Whatever this version of America as a white supremacist state, which is the narrative from the left now, is so destructive. And it’s also going counter to the best things about this country which are rooted in individual equality in the law and in the eyes of God.

CLAY: Meritocracy. The best man or woman wins.

BUCK: They’re creating what the Supreme Court has referred to — at least I believe it was in a dissent by Alito — “the racial entitlement state,” and who gets to make the determinations? This is where the Marxist revolutionary comes into play. Who makes the determinations about what’s “fair,” what’s “right”? Who gets what? Where do Asians fit into the hierarchy?

CLAY: They don’t. They’re too successful.

BUCK: Yeah. Does the LGBTQ community? Are they to be put in a place of greater hierarchy in the oppression studies than the black community, or how do we figure that out? If you’re trans…? It’s dizzying, and it’s incoherent. It’s just meant to frighten people. It’s moral blackmail against America by people who are either ruthless in their pursuit of power or idiots — or both, actually. A lot are both.

CLAY: And I also think a lot of it comes from China. They’re taking advantage of our social media openness, and our enemies in the world recognize that the way to destroy America is not to attack externally. It’s to get us so roiled up divided based on our diversity in this country that we’re throwing punches at each other in the country instead of recognizing that we’re getting punched in the back of the head every damn day by China.

BUCK: KGB was doing this in this country with direct operations against us trying to pull at our seams. They don’t teach that in the schools, though. They don’t teach about the communist penetrations of this country, either.

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BUCK: Steve Rattner, who was private equity guy, has made a ton of money. Look, there are a lot of super-rich libs out there, as you all know, right? It’s fascinating because the libs are the socialists, but they’re also the billionaires, most of the billionaires, and they’re often very left wing in their policy choices while they’re going between homes in Vail and Nantucket.

CLAY: Well, you can be a super capitalist — and I think some of these guys are really old school Democrats who are super billionaire that don’t fit the party now. But what’s interesting about what he’s saying is, “Yeah, if we put trillions of more dollars into the economy, inflation is gonna get way worse.”

BUCK: The op-ed that he wrote — in the New York Times, no less — was, “I Warned Democrats About Inflation.” Now it is here, and they’re gonna keep doing the thing that we warned them against. I think it’s an important point this guy makes. He was involved in the GM bailout, which — a lot of people now forget — involved breaking legal contract with the bondholders for GM in favor of the unions, the autoworkers unions, which is an important Democrat constituency in those states involved.

Anyway, Rattner was involved in the GM bailout situation. So, he was an advisor to the Treasury department under Obama, a left-wing guy but a very rich guy. Plenty of those out there. Terry McAuliffe, Nancy Pelosi, all these rich libs running around that want socialism and Green New Deal stuff for everybody else while they fly around in private jets. But what Rattner says in the article is we already had a $1.9 trillion spending bill.

CLAY: Exactly what we’ve been saying.

BUCK: Yeah, earlier this year, and he says he told people then — and when he says people, he means Democrats, and he’s got connections at the top level. He’s like, guys, this is gonna have negative effects. You’ve got people that don’t want to go to work. They’re being paid to stay home. You have too much fear in the blue states for the economies to get up and running at the level they should be because of all the Fauciism that’s going on with the lockdowns and the rest of it.

You spent the $1.9 trillion and now you’ve spent the money on the infrastructure bill and you’re gonna be adding a few trillion on top of that. The biggest threat politically to this presidency is inflation, and you are insisting on doing the one thing… Democrats are like a kid who’s burned his hand on the stove who then goes, “Now I’m gonna put both hands on the hot stove!” What are they doing?

CLAY: They passed a $1.9 trillion bill. Now they combine that with the $1.2 trillion infrastructure, in conjunction with all of the bailout cash that was spent in 2020. We are talking about the biggest deficits that have existed since World War II. We spent more money, Buck, responding to covid than we did to win World War II. Think about that for a minute. It is absolute insanity.

So the idea that we are not going to have massive inflation for substantial periods of time to come is Modern Monetary Theory, which is basically magical realism meets economics, and this is what I’ve been saying. There aren’t that many adults understanding economic leadership at all in the Biden White House. It’s funny that the Obama economic team is now saying, “What are these imbeciles doing?” basically. That’s the subtext of Rattner’s speech.

BUCK: It’s amazing to see some Democrats who, I think, honestly are… They just see the writing on the wall. They know what’s coming.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: They know this is a function of numbers, of math, ultimately, and the chance of Joe Biden getting reelected or whatever happens there with the whole, “Is he gonna try to run again? Is there gonna be someone else? whatever it may be. The chance of Democrats having another four years the presidency, the chance of Democrats coming out of the midterm election without an epic wipeout in the Congress —

CLAY: Cataclysmic. Yes.

BUCK: — if we have inflation starting to look like it’s gonna be 7%, 8%, 9%? They’re done, and yet what else do they offer the American people at this point? They have no vision for the country the vision is spend a whole lot of money and tell you at what to do and stay home and double mask, basically. So when it comes to money, it’s all downside.

CLAY: They’re doubling down to stupidity because they have no actual planning that makes sense going forward.

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