Welcome, New Citizen Enes Kanter Freedom

30 Nov 2021

CLAY: I wanted to pivot here to a story that has actually been really positive in the world of sports. Most people who are in sports have not been paying attention to it. But it’s on Fox News. CNN, to their credit, has also covered it to a certain extent. It has to do with Enes Kanter, who is a center for the Boston Celtics, the NBA team. You guys know that sports has basically become politics by another name over the past several years.

And the most outspoken athletes in general have tended to be in the NBA. They wore slogans on the back of their jerseys. They have refused to stand for the national anthem. They refused to play games, memorably, after Jacob Blake was shot. That was a big swing and a miss. But what they’ve not done is be willing to hold any other countries to the same standard that they’re willing to hold the United States.

Now, my position… I wrote a whole book about this called Republicans Buy Sneakers Too, which is a famous quote of Michael Jordan when he was asked why he wasn’t political. He said, “Republicans buy sneakers too,” and my argument has been, look, as a capitalist I understand if you decide, “Hey, you know what? I really don’t want to get involved in politics because people who buy tickets to come watch our games, people who watch our games on television, they’re Republicans, Democrats, independents.

“They don’t really necessarily break down directly along political lines.” In other words, there are a lot of people out there who love the NBA, might have had courtside seats, and voted for Donald Trump. That percentage of the population exists, and there’s millions of them out there. Well, what I have argued is, it’s ridiculous for LeBron James to say, “I’m not just gonna shut up and dribble,” which is what he said, and then do that exactly for China.

So I’ve been waiting for an NBA player who was willing to actually speak out against China, and obviously this blew up in a big way because Daryl Morey — who is a general manager in the NBA — had the audacity to tweet support for Hong Kong freedom, and then everybody in the NBA basically ran the opposite direction. Wait a minute. You’re all outspoken about the importance of social justice in the United States but you won’t speak out in favor of basic human rights around the world?

So, Enes Kanter has been calling out, Buck, all of these different athletes. He wore shoes against LeBron James that pictured LeBron James being crowned by Chairman Xi — remember LeBron James calls himself “King James” — kneeling at the foot of China’s dictator and receiving a crown. It was amazing that he would wear those shoes. He’s called out a lot of different aspects of the NBA and their response to China.

Almost no other player or coach has been willing to, and so he now has become a United States citizen and he has changed his last name to Freedom. He talked about that. His name is now Enes Kanter Freedom. On the back of his jersey he will have on his jersey: Freedom. This is significant because Enes Kanter is Turkish, and his family has been horribly treated by the dictator basically running Turkey. But here is Enes Kanter. Let’s play cut 18 talking about become a United States citizen.

I am proud to be an American.
Greatest nation in the world.

The Land of the free, and home of the brave. 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/8mbUX1dpWS

— Enes Kanter FREEDOM (@EnesFreedom) November 29, 2021

CLAY: Okay. So congratulations to Enes Kanter Freedom who now has adopted that name as he has become a citizen of the United States. Buck, you don’t necessarily pay a lot of attention to the NBA although I think you said when you were a kid, you’d occasionally go to Knicks games in Madison Square Garden.

BUCK: I had family members that had season ticket to the Knicks for many years. My cousins. So I went out to a lot of Knicks games back when they called it “the Bomb Squad” and there was Trent Tucker, John Starks and had all these guys. Patrick Ewing, obviously, was their marquee player. They had a great team back then. I used to go, but obviously we didn’t have all these athletes with Twitter constantly dumping on America, the NBA.

It’s all over the place. So I really don’t watch the NBA as, largely now, a political decision. I just don’t want to support what they do. That said, Enes Kanter Freedom — which, by the way, he stole my idea. I was thinking maybe when I hit my 40th, I’d change my last name to Buck Freedom, which would be awesome, by the way. Think about all the T-shirts I could sell.

But he’s a reminder of… You mentioned that he’s left Turkey, that his home country is Turkey where Erdogan is effectively an authoritarian. It’s one of the worst places in the world, up there with China in terms of press freedom. In Turkey, you are not allowed to say certain things. There are plenty of journalists who have been put in prison for saying things the regime doesn’t like.

And so people that have experienced that have a particular love of freedom when they see it and know it when it’s actually around them. So there’s the inspirational component here of somebody who obviously is also a millionaire. He’s playing in the NBA, he’s come to this country, but he loves this country. And you have to wonder: How could anybody who’s in a similarly privileged status…? To be an elite athlete in America in the NBA, in any of the major professional sports leagues where you’re famous and rich and not feel incredibly blessed?

I mean, I think at some level, Clay, it’s not only that we would expect people to feel patriotic about a country that allows them to play a kids’ game for fame and fortune. But beyond that, it feels like how could you not just be a grateful person, right? So, LeBron James’ attitude is just creepy a lot of the time. People see it. They know it when he kicked the people out recently.

Enes Kanter is talking about how great America is. We all sit around saying, “Doesn’t everyone kind of think this place who lives here who’s at that level who’s experiencing America in this way?” Obviously there are immigrants who come here from China, from Cuba, from you name it, who have experienced authoritarianism, and they’re just happy to be here, right? It’s another thing to be here and become an American and become one of the very elite in this country. So the gratitude and the love of America is very much refreshing.

CLAY: And these guys know what the importance of American citizenship actually represents. One of the things that I think is a nonpartisan idea, a part of me thinks that if every American had to serve the country for a year maybe abroad where you saw what actually exists. I don’t mean go abroad and like go to Mexico and stay at a resort. I mean go to other countries in the world and understand what they actually do with, the people who live there.

That’s kind of what Enes Kanter said last night. If we play cut the ten, he was asked about Americans who criticize America. Many of the people out there who are criticizing America the most are not immigrants because the immigrants understand how fortunate they are to be here. Listen to Enes Kanter talk about Americans who criticize America.

FREEDOM: I’m gonna be honest. People should feel really blessed and lucky to be in America because, you know, they love to criticize it. But when you live a country like Turkey — or, you know, China or somewhere else — you appreciate the freedoms you have here, you know? So I feel like they should just please… They should just keep their mouth shut and stop criticizing the greatest nation in the world and they should focus on, you know, their freedoms and their human rights and democracy. So America gave me everything I have; so I definitely appreciate the United States of America.

BUCK: I don’t know if I’m gonna have room in my closet. Now I gotta get Aaron Rodgers jerseys for his standing up to the mandate machine, and I gotta get Freedom jerseys, right? It’s gonna say “Freedom” on the jersey, is it gonna say “Kanter Freedom,” or how they gonna do it?

CLAY: I think it’ll just say “Freedom.” Here’s the question. Are athletes finally starting to stand up and start abandoning the woke agenda? ‘Cause my argument for a long time has been athletics represents everything anti-woke, right? It’s a meritocracy. You are responsible for your own individual excellence. Professional athletics and the pursuit of athletic competence in general is the antithesis of everything woke because it’s about demonstrating elite talent.

The people who are the best get paid the most, and also ultimately you’re responsible for yourself. It’s been athletes and coaches are afraid to say anything, and when I see Aaron Rodgers — granted, he tested positive for covid, but when he — came out and he didn’t bow down and say, “Oh, I’m so sorry;” he said, “I think the covid mandate basically is stupid that the NFL has,” and when you see Enes Kanter coming out now and calling out LeBron James himself for the hypocrisy of ripping America while pocketing tons of money from China and the league itself, are athletes finally starting to get red-pilled themselves, Buck? I think the answer may very well be yes.

BUCK: There’s a huge market, obviously, right? You’re somebody that understands this on the sports side as an entrepreneur and somebody who’s built a very successful business in the sports realm, which is that people want sports, but they also want sports through the lens of sanity and loving America.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: It doesn’t have to be this spiteful, divisive, woke garbage that you see all the time. Now, there are gonna be athletes — a lot of them, and maybe it’s a huge majority of them — that still take that approach. But there’s obviously a big lane here for people. By the way, it doesn’t have to be partisan. It’s just what we’re talking about, gratitude, patriotism. How about we just start with that?

Grateful to be where they are and patriotic and show some love for their country. Doesn’t mean aw have opinions and disagree with people and other things publicly — and of course, they’re gonna do that anyway. But just starting from that premise instead of, “I’m always going to look for every opportunity possible to dump on America.

“As a multimillionaire celebrity who gets to play a kids’ game for fame and fortune, I’m going to constantly try to elevate myself among my peer group and essentially virtue signal by pretending America’s so awful.” You know? Yeah, if you’re a guy that’s been welding for 20 years and working hard with your hands and getting paid by the hour and you see that stuff going on, you might think to yourself, “I don’t want to watch these crybabies anymore.” I think a lot of people have taken that position. I kind of wish more would, quite honestly.

CLAY: I don’t think there’s any doubt about that, Buck. And what I would point out is — while we’re talking about Enes Kanter and Fox News and CNN have talked about him — you know who almost hasn’t talked about him at all? The sports media, because the sports media is even more woke than the political media.

BUCK: I know you’re right, but when you say this, I’m just like, “That can’t even be.” How could the sports media be more woke than the news media, which is 95% Democrat?

CLAY: Because there’s 5% that aren’t. Doesn’t exist in sports media.

BUCK: It’s amazing. It’s amazing how that even happens.

CLAY: I was the only person in sports media, the entire industry, to acknowledge that he was voting for Donald Trump. Not one other did! Now, there are other people who did. My DMs blew up with people who you see on television every night. They just said, “If I said I was voting for Donald Trump and I work at ESPN or I work at CBS or I work at NBC, I’m afraid I’d lose my job.”

BUCK: And they’re probably right.

CLAY: They’re probably right.

BUCK: They’re probably right. They’re on point there.

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Surprise Caller: Former Speaker Newt Gingrich

30 Nov 2021

BUCK: We have the former speaker of the House of Representatives with us now, Mr. Newt Gingrich. Newt, thanks for calling in.

SPEAKER GINGRICH: I’m delighted. How are you doing?

BUCK: We’re doing pretty well, sir. Thank you. Covering a lot today. One thing we’re gonna get to in this hour — and we’re glad that you’re calling in ’cause we wanted you to give us your sense of it, your assessment of it, is how just last week there was a mass murder, a mass casualty in Waukesha, Wisconsin, at a Christmas parade, and there’s almost no media coverage of it and there’s certainly no national conversation or ongoing discussion about this threat and what it indicates for America going forward. Why so different from other attacks, sir?

SPEAKER GINGRICH: Well, I think that it’s clear. You had an African-American driver who was a convicted convict who had been let out on a thousand-dollar bail who had a history of violence who had posted on his website both anti-white comments and an essay on how to use a vehicle to kill people. Now, that totally violates the news media’s narrative, which is that all danger comes from white nationalists and that all African-Americans are victims.

Of course, this guy murderously killed six innocent people, wounded 40 in a Christmas parade. So, it could have become a gigantic national story, except that the elite media wanted to smother it, and you can tell part of smothering is that the president of the United States, who is flying over Waukesha as of the last report ’cause he’s going to Minnesota.

He is not gonna stop, is not gonna meet with the families of the dead and the wounded, is not gonna see where it occurred because that would draw national attention to the fact that all of the racist versions from the left are wrong. This particular violent person is African-American. His victims are all white. He had clearly should not have been let out of jail.

Well, if you’re a left-wing liberal who believes that nobody ought to be in jail anyway — and you’ve been part of, for example, the New York no bail program where people just automatically get out or you’ve been in San Francisco where you have a communist district attorney who refuses to jail people — you don’t want to be told that there’s something dangerous about letting dangerous people out. And you don’t want to draw the attention to the fact that crime in America is a lot more complicated than the NBC News version. And so they just smother it. They hide from the American people the truth about what happened.

CLAY: We’re talking to former Speaker of the House Congressman in the future. Congressman, I know you’re a huge student of history, and one of the great things about history is it allows you to see beyond what’s going on right now in this moment and look ahead. Are you optimistic about the next 20 years of America, based on your looking at the way things have moved historically, or are you pessimistic?

SPEAKER GINGRICH: Well, I just published a book called Beyond Biden to make the point that in fact we’re gonna get past this. I mean, you have a president who falls asleep at international conferences. You have a vice president who’s so goofy that there’s a website that actually has 10 hours of her laughing. And think about that one for a minute.

CLAY: That’s great.

SPEAKER GINGRICH: I’ve told people, “I feel more comfortable with Biden sleeping than with Harris laughing,” and that’s your national leadership team. And then you’ve got a system which is gonna, I think, basically destroy itself. Somewhere between a million 400,000 illegal people are crossing the border with no check for covid or for criminal records.

Massive inflation, high cost of energy, regulatory obstruction of the entire economy, and an infrastructure crisis where there are I think 90 ships offshore from Long Beach and Los Angeles who cannot get in to be unloaded. An inability to competently withdraw from Afghanistan without getting young Americans killed and without leaving behind several hundred Americans and several thousand allies.

Just go down the list. This is not a system which is gonna get reelected by the American people. We’re getting to see what Big Government socialism is like. It does not work, and we need to recognize that it does not work, and I think that’s gonna be a major theme for the next year: It ain’t working, and just you can ask your audience how many different things do they encounter every week where it just clearly isn’t working.

BUCK: We’re speaking to former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. He’s got a new book out, Beyond Biden: Rebuilding the America We Love. Newt, I want to know, how do we do the rebuilding part? Clay and I do a pretty good job of pounding the drum over all this, ’cause it’s not hard to point out the things, right? You just gotta make sure you dive into it and approach the failures the Biden administration with rationality. But how do we rebuild? What does the upside look like? Essentially, what is your case for American optimism in the face of what feels like an already failed Biden regime?

SPEAKER GINGRICH: Well, first of all, you have to win by a decisive margin the 2022 and 2024 elections. But if you do that — if you go out and put your shoulder to it — we’re gonna win. We’re gonna win big because people are gonna we repudiate this current team. And then for the first time since 1994, I think we do need a Contract with America.

I think we need big, positive, good things that people nod and say, “Yeah, that’s what I want,” and I think that that can be developed. I personally believe we ought to go back to balancing the budget. When I was speaker, we balanced the federal budget for four times — the only time in your lifetime we’ve had four consecutive balanced budgets.

We weren’t talking about raising the debt ceiling. We were paying off the debt. It’s very valuable to go to a balanced budget because it forces you to make choices. It forces you to root out corruption and inefficiency, and it forces you to rethink what you’re doing. And when we did it, it was very effective. We reformed welfare and returned to a work ethic.

And remember, you’re dealing right now with an administration which is repealing all of the work requirements that President Clinton and I put in in the 1990s which were enormously effective. It’s not good to give people money to stay at home if they are capable of going to work. It undermines… by the way, this is something which President Franklin D. Roosevelt talked about in a State of the Union 1935, and he said, you know, welfare, if you stay at home, it undermines your character. It weakens you morally and spiritually, and it’s very dangerous. vThat’s what we’re faced with.

CLAY: We’re talking to former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich here with us. His new book is Beyond Biden: Rebuilding the America We Love. You mentioned the welfare reform that you and President Clinton helped to pass. That was after a shellacking that President Clinton got in 1994. I agree with you that Biden and the Democratic Party is likely to get a real whipping in 2022.

Based on what you know of Clinton… You know what happened. Clinton brought in Dick Morris, he triangulated, he basically started to take Republican ideas, and that allowed him to get reelected in 1996. Is Joe Biden adroit enough politically to adjust like Bill Clinton did in 1994, after the whipping he’s likely to get in 2022, or is he going to continue to try to pursue the same failed policies, in your mind? In other words, could history repeat itself? Does Biden have the political talents that Bill Clinton had post-1994?

SPEAKER GINGRICH: I honestly don’t know. The left is much stronger today than it was in 1994, and the left became very bitter about the Clintons and felt that they sold them out. When Clinton agreed to sign welfare reform, agreed to sign a capital gains tax cut, he agreed to sign a balanced budget, from the standpoint of the Big Government socialist left, that was horrible. That was a betrayal of the true faith.

They never forgave him or Hillary for it. That bothered them vastly more than any kind of scandal because it was a violation of their core religious beliefs in Big Government and in taking money away from everybody and running it through bureaucracies. So whether or not Biden would have the personal strength to do it, whether or not the team he’s assembled would allow him to do it?

Remember, when we won, by June or so of 1995, Clinton’s team wanted him to move to the left, and he said to them, “If I do that, I’ll get beat in 1996. I’ve gotta move towards Gingrich,” and that’s why we ended up in one of the most striking moments of my career hosting the president at the State of the Union and having Bill Clinton saying, “The era of big federal government is over.”

You had to give him a standing ovation. What are you gonna do? You’re sitting right behind him. So I found myself applauding this liberal Democrat who had just repudiated the entire left wing of his party. Whether or not Biden would be capable of that — and, frankly, whether or not he has the energy.

Remember, Clinton was a young man. He had a ton of energy. He was very smart and very flexible. Biden is not as smart as Clinton. He’s not as flexible as Clinton. And I’m not sure that at the age he’ll be by 2024, that he will have the physical energy to undertake that kind of a change.

BUCK: Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. Sir, thanks so much for being with us, and everyone should check out Newt’s book Beyond Biden: Rebuilding the America We Love. Thank you so much, sir.

SPEAKER GINGRICH: Thank you.

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Corruption: China Lavishes Hunter Biden with Cash, Diamonds

30 Nov 2021

BUCK: Where is the interest in what Hunter Biden was up to when his dad was vice president with regard to China?

CLAY: Amen.

BUCK: Miranda Divine — who we should have on the show, by the way; we’ll invite her on the show this week or next week — from the New York Post, has a book out. Is it Laptop from Hell? Is that what it’s called?

CLAY: I think it’s something like that.

BUCK: Something like that. Laptop from Hell.

CLAY: Laptop from Hell. Sounds like a hell of a story.

BUCK: Yeah, exactly.

CLAY: We texted her.

BUCK: Yeah, we’ll go get her to come on and talk about it. But there’s no interest. Clay, you were on Hannity last night, right?

CLAY: Hannity tonight.

BUCK: Oh, Hannity tonight. You’re on Hannity tonight. I was on last night with our friend Pete Hegseth who was hosting at 7 o’clock. I just would repeat that if you had a Trump kid who was having meetings with senior Chinese Communist Party officials with getting off with tens of millions of dollars and a diamond —

CLAY: $80,000 diamond.

BUCK: — they would be covered it like the bombing of Pearl Harbor. I mean, it would be the most urgent national story, selling out our country to the Chinese come to a stop. But, “Oh, it’s just Hunter!” This is what they’ve done with Biden his whole career also, statements that he made, things that he said that would be a huge problem or other politicians. They build this defense of, “Oh, that’s just Joe being Joe.” Why is that the case? Why is that something that we should all concede?

CLAY: It is so infuriating to me, just the lack of basic standards of journalistic decency, right, when it comes to how you’re going to treat members of the president’s family. The idea that Hunter Biden can basically be engaging in what feels like every illegal act known to man, from drug use to prostitution to selling out American interests to China. Everything you can basically imagine if you were coming up with a series of things that you would not want the president’s son or daughter to be involved in.

And you pretend it doesn’t exist for Hunter Biden, while selling the idea that Donald Trump Jr. in particular was doing all of those things. Just think if there had actually been tangible evidence. He met a random Russian, and you would have thought that it was the most important meeting that had ever happened based on the way the media covered it. Imagine if a person from China had given Donald Trump Jr. an $80,000 diamond or offered him tens of millions of dollars to advance Chinese interests.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: Some of these Hunter Biden stories you read about them, and you feel like if Led Zeppelin were asked, they’d say, “I think he went a little overboard. I think he went a bit too crazy” ’cause he’s done a lot of things. Hunter Biden has led kind of a wild life. That’s for sure. But he is also somebody who has access to a tremendous amount of influence and power because of who his daddy is. We all know this, right?

This is just the reality of Hunter Biden’s life in recent years. And now there is an effort at least at shedding some light on this one, led by — among otherS, but led by — Miranda divine of the New York Post. And she has this book. It is actually Laptop from Hell, by the way. I thought maybe. Laptop from Hell. So we’ll invite her on so she can tell us about the book.

But the media helped hide the real Joe Biden by censoring stories about this. Here are some of the details as it were about this whole situation. Hunter was having meetings. You gotta get really deep into this stuff. There’s a lot of names, a lot of different people and players. The short version, right — and, Clay, fill in if I’m missing anything here as we go.

But the short version of it is Hunter was having meetings with a very powerful and highly… You can’t be a powerful Chinese businessman without being effectively an arm of the Chinese Communist Party. And in fact, this guy in particular that Hunter was meeting with is accused of being — or, I should say, is allegedly — a part of Chairman Xi’s Belt and Road initiative and essentially the economic arm of the Chinese Communist Party working around the world to expand their influence.

But the story here is that this Chinese titan lavished a three-carat gem and a promise of $30 million on Hunter Biden so that he would give access. Ye Jianming is the name of this Chinese fellow he would grant access to — well, of course — Joe Biden. Now, here’s just part of this was that I wanted to get to for a second. I remember — and, Clay, you probably remember this — when the Washington Post was doing actual stories on the emoluments clause violations that maybe Trump was engaged in.

First of all, who the heck knew what who emoluments clause was before Trump? I’m just saying. I’m not saying ignorance is bliss on this stuff but the emoluments clause, all of a sudden was a phrase we’re all hearing because of drinks and cheeseburgers that foreign diplomats in the aggregate were buying at the Trump hotel. I’m not kidding, folks. They acted like that was buying influence. Foreign diplomats going to a restaurant that Trump owned an interest in as if they’re like, “I am ordering the cheeseburger and I want you to sign the treaty,” and Trump is like, “Sir, yes, sir! Absolutely.”

CLAY: That extra $2 in my pocket has won the day.

BUCK: “Wait a second. You’re getting the bearnaise sauce on the side? Of course I will take you off the banned list for international trade!” Anyway, it was crazy, right? They would run those stories, and they constantly talked about Trump corruption, all these different probes. Hunter Biden is running around basically offering up to our biggest adversary, access to the top-policymaker circles. We’re talking about tens of millions of dollars allegedly in the balance here possibly changing hands, and, Clay, in the media has no interest. None. None at all.

CLAY: And the way that I would approach is this is, first of all, Hunter Biden has no tangible skills, other than being potentially really good —

BUCK: I think he could pack a bowl, for sure.

CLAY: (laughing) I was gonna say: Potentially being really good at purchasing drugs and hookers, all right? Other than that, I’ve not seen anything that Hunter Biden does particularly well. So this the idea that the Trump children who were under attack — Ivanka, Don Jr., Eric Trump, the in-laws… The entire Trump family was under a microscope over every single move that they made from a business perspective.

Despite the fact that the Trumps had a successful business operation long before Donald Trump ever got involved in politics! They had created and built and were running a successful business predicated on his brand and a variety of different real estate properties. So the biggest flaw — and, by the way, whether you loved or hated him, Jared Kushner was doing the same thing.

In other words, the people who were successful in the Trump White House on a high level from a business perspective were successful long before Donald Trump Jr. or Donald Trump Sr. or anybody in the White House ever got involved in politics at all, right? So if the Trumps… I just want you to think about this. How would the media have covered it?

Let’s use Donald Trump Jr. Good dude. How would the media have covered it if Donald Trump Jr., there were emails and photos and documents that proved with zero doubt, irreconcilable proof that he had been meeting with top Chinese advocates, and what was going on here is significant, that he was going to act to advance Chinese interests in exchange for tens of millions of dollars.

And there had been a three-carat jewel worth $80,000 given to him? This would be covered in excruciating detail. Not only that, there would be congressional hearings, there would be congressional investigations. I predict that the Trumps would have ended up being charged with crimes. Right now, nothing has happened to Hunter Biden at all. Everything that the media told you about the Trumps, the Bidens actually did.

BUCK: Democrats are expected now — they expect — to get rich in politics.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Not before, and not even after. They expect that their political access will effectively make them rich. The promise of future political access will make them rich. The best example of this, other than Hunter Biden which we’re talking about, is the Clinton Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation. What happened? Did you ever even hear about the Clinton Foundation anymore?

I thought they wanted to address, you know, women’s rights issues and climate change and global warming, these very sort of vague, amorphous concepts. It was basically a money-laundering operation for paying Bill $800,000 a speech which, by the way, he did get from a Russian bank at one point. Eight hundcred grand for a speech? Better be hell of a speech.

CLAY: By the way, I’ll doing that.

BUCK: What’s that?

CLAY: I’ll do that for a lot cheaper.

BUCK: Anyone out there, for your local Rotary Club or whatever, I’ll do a big discount on the 800K speech. I promise you that.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: But the media all acted like they were so… This is when I was actually at CNN, believe it or not, and I would go on and trash the Clintons which was fun. This is when CNN started to hate me. As soon as I got away from terrorism analysis and started doing politics, right? But I would say, “Does anyone really think that these donations, especially from the foreign countries, to the Clinton Foundation, are going to continue if she loses?

“And doesn’t that prove that this isn’t really about charity?” And they’re all going, “Well, I don’t know. It’s charity! Why do you hate charity?” And I’m like, “No, no, no. Let’s look at this for a second.” Of course, Clay, they had to shut down the Clinton Global Initiative, the CGI, within like six months or something of Hillary losing. It was a money-laundering-for-access scheme. That was the whole point, and they didn’t care. And they don’t care with Hunter Biden, either, because it’s their team, folks. That’s all that matters to them.

CLAY: Well, and I will say this. One of the reasons that I think Donald Trump’s political campaign had such appeal in 2016 and carried forward into 2020 was the idea that he was already rich. We’ve seen so many people — to be fair, Democrats and Republicans — who came in to office with no assets somehow get fabulously wealthy by the time they left. We all know on some level that they were selling access to their positions of power. That was why a lot of people liked the idea of Trump. This is a guy who’s already independently wealthy. He’s not trying to get into political office to make money. He’s already there.

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Biden Snubs Victims of BLM Bigot’s Christmas Massacre

30 Nov 2021

CLAY: We are not going to let the attack in Waukesha, Wisconsin, disappear from memory. Unlike a lot of people at CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, we’re also not going to blame the vehicle for what it did, considering it was being driven by a man named Darrell Brooks who appeared to have a clear intent to try to kill as many people as possible, potentially.

At least based on his posts on Facebook and other social sites, predicated on the race of his victims, because he was angry with what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse not far away in the Kenosha courtroom. Now, Joe Biden has an opportunity, maybe an obligation as the American president, to travel to this site of this terror attack — six people killed, 50 wounded, many still recovering — and lend the support of the United States in a time of tragedy to the victims of this Waukesha attack. He hasn’t done so. In fact, he’s flown right over the top of Waukesha to go to other places. Jen Psaki was asked by Peter Doocy why is that actually occurring inside of the press briefing. This is what she said.

DOOCY: Why hasn’t the president visited the members of this Christmas parade attack?

PSAKI: Well, I would say first — as you saw the president convey last week — our hearts go out to this community, to the people in Waukesha; that we’ve been in touch, obviously, with officials there and we’re all watching as people are recovering and this is such a difficult time of year for this to happen. It’s difficult anytime.

Obviously, any president going to visit a community requires a lot of assets, requires taking their resources and it’s not something that I have a trip previewed at this point in time. But we remain in touch with local officials and certainly are hearts are with the community as they’ve gone through such a difficult time.

BUCK: Yeah, we’re not all idiots. He’s not going because Biden sees no political the advantage in it. Period. That’s why he’s not going. Obviously, the president of the United States flying over the site, mind you, he’s already in the region. It would not be hard. Pretty sure we have this fancy taxpayer funded plane for him and a pretty large praetorian guard known as the Secret Service to keep him safe.

I’m not concerned about any of that, and neither should he be, right? He could get there easily. Why isn’t he going? They don’t want to draw attention to it. Why don’t they want to draw attention to it? Here’s something. How is it possible, Clay, that no one has even raised — in the Democrat corporate media — motive? You didn’t hear the word.

Is this the first thing! People say, “Oh, Buck, what about what happened in Las Vegas? Everybody was speculating about motive for weeks.” They think that shuts down my argument. No, no, no. My argument is you can’t even talk about motive! There is no motive, apparently, for a mass murderer of elderly people and children in a parade for Christmas.

That’s complete madness. But, you know, with Las Vegas, it was, “Could it be that? Could it be that? Could it be this?” Everybody was getting in on the motive-analysis side of it in the media. No one even talks about it, Clay, because we know what the motive actually is. We’re just are not allowed to say it. Well, we say it, but other people don’t.

CLAY: Well, it was a racial attack, it appears, and Joe Biden didn’t wait for the evidence to come out when it was Kyle Rittenhouse. He branded him a white supremacist and said that his actions were founded in racism. That’s what he said. That’s what he did. That’s what his campaign advertised. So this idea that you can’t show up in Waukesha?

It’s because it’s an inconvenient truth; the facts don’t fit the narrative. If this had been, unfortunately, a crazed white person who had killed a number of minorities, Joe Biden would have been there the day after it happened attending a press conference and demanding a hate crime investigation. Almost no one is willing to raise this as an issue.

We talked about this yesterday, Buck, and Ron DeSantis — after our show aired, I believe — actually came out and said what almost no one else is willing to acknowledge, which is this appears to have been a crime by a crazy person, granted, that was motivated by racial animus. Listen to this.

Ron DeSantis on Waukesha:

“Corporate press are more apt to characterize a parent who protests bad policies at a school board meeting as a ‘domestic terrorist’, than somebody who intentionally rams an SUV into a crowd of innocent people…if it doesn’t fit the narrative” pic.twitter.com/Vkzjin05Wa

— The First (@TheFirstonTV) November 30, 2021

DESANTIS: They say this was a big accident. You never actually hear the discussion about who committed this, what was the motivation. This was an intentional act. And it seems like, you know, for corporate press, they’re more apt to characterize a parent who goes to a school board meeting to protest bad policies as a domestic terrorist than somebody who intentionally rams an SUV into a crowd of innocent people.

And we’ll see what the actual motivation was. It very well may have been in response to what happened with Kyle Rittenhouse, and you have to wonder if that’s the case, almost surely this guy’s view of Rittenhouse was colored by all these media lies. Let’s just be clear. They are not wanting to cover this Wisconsin thing for what it is. They are not wanting the facts to come out the way they are because the facts do not support their narrative.

BUCK: This gives you a sense of how powerful the apparatus of the left and the Democrat Party really is. This is exactly as I thought it would be. This is playing out as expected. They do this, “We don’t know. Wait ’til the facts come in.” They lock it down. Anyone who strays ahead of what had been the agreed upon facts in the first 24 hours, they attack ruthlessly.

“You’re being reckless! You don’t know what you are saying,” right? So you risk that if you come out and say, “Well, this looks like the following…” So for 48 hours it’s, “Hold on! We don’t know. We don’t know. Wait,” and then after that it’s, ‘Well, it was an SUV that went into a crowd. It was a car. It was a tragedy! It was something that occurred that we’re all very sad about,” and they shift the conversation towards sorrow and grief.

They neutralize discussion about who did this, why did he do it, what does it tell us about the country we live in, what does it tell us about the media coverage of specifically the Rittenhouse trial but more generally race relations in this country, right? What are the broader topics we could have a conversation about in the aftermath of an incident like this? All of that. There’s no national conversation. All of that is shut down. It’s exactly… This is the left-wing playbook when it doesn’t fit the narrative, and that’s what they’ve done.

CLAY: A hundred percent. They memory hole it, and this is significant because one of the big powers of CNN, MSNBC, the Washington Post, the New York Times, are the facts and the stories that they choose to share with their audience. And you know as well as I do that if this had been a white guy driving a car mowing through a crowd of minorities with the exact same statements on his social media profiles, just changing the race, this would have been a multiday story.

We’d still be talk about it over a week later. Every Republican would be forced to condemn this guy. Everyone would have to acknowledge that white supremacy is a major threat in this country. Yet when the identities are shifted and when it is a black man who is making white people his victims, intentionally driving over them — young kids, older people — in a Christmas parade, we have to pretend that there is no motivation whatsoever for this individual.

Look, if you want to pretend that every individual is responsible for their actions and race doesn’t impact anything, that’s fine with me. But the standards have to be applied evenly in all cases. And we just saw them not applied evenly in the Kyle Rittenhouse case, and we know what would happen in this situation if the races were different.

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Buttigieg: Gas Too Expensive? Just Buy a Tesla!

30 Nov 2021

CLAY: I like to think that Buck and I have a sense of what the larger world is like, that we connect with a lot of you in so many different parts of the country even though we may have differences (laughing) and I can be quite confident that we never are going to come on this show and say, “Hey, if you’re worried about gas prices, just go buy a super expensive electric vehicle!” That way you’ll never have to worry about paying for gas again, which is what Mayor Pete said, and I believe we have the audio of that.

BUCK: Technically, he’s the secretary of transportation — when he’s not on parental leave for months on end during a supply chain crisis, I might add. But I’m psyched that they have a former junior management consultant running a huge federal agency of which he knows nothing and has no previous understanding or experience whatsoever because, remember, the Biden administration is the “serious” people.

BUTTIGIEG: But there is more envisioned in the Build Back Better law. I’ll give you one example. It contains incentives to make it more affordable to buy an electric vehicle, up to a $12,500 discount, in effect, for families thinking about getting an EV. Families that once they own that electric vehicle will never have to worry about gas prices again. The people who stand to benefit most from owning an EV are often rural residents, uh, who have the longest distances to drive — they burn the most gas — and underserved, uh, urban residents, uh, in areas where there are high gas prices and they’re lower income; so they would gain the most by having that vehicle. But these are the very residents who have not always been connected, uh, o electric vehicles that are viewed as kind of a luxury item.

CLAY: They are a luxury item! (laughing) They cost a ton money. The idea that poor people in inner cities or poor people in rural areas are going to be freed from the cost of gas by buying super-expensive electric luxury vehicles is so insanely tone-deaf, I don’t even know how you can make that argument.

BUCK: There’s other problems. So, first of all, you know, we have, for example, a great station in Omaha, KFAB, Omaha, Nebraska. I just wonder, how many electric-charging stations are there an hour outside of Omaha? You know what I’m saying?

CLAY: Not easy to find. Yes.

BUCK: I’m wondering how many of these charging stations are out there. I think you can set it up so it’s in your home. It’s not as easy as just finding an electrical outlet when you’re on the road. But beyond that, where do they think…? Sso, yeah, if you’re in New York or Los Angeles, they’re setting up more and more of these stations all the time. But I think it’s funny, ’cause if you’re rural, you’ll “never have to worry about gas prices again.”

Does Mayor Pete, which I still think is his technical title even though he is the secretary — or rather, that should be his title even though technically he’s secretary of the transportation department. Does Mayor Pete know where electricity comes from, really? Does he know the breakdown of it? And also making fossil fuel more expensive actually makes electricity more expensive too.

You do have to wonder about this. Teslas don’t run on solar, Mayor Pete. There’s not like a little panel on top. They’re being charged somewhere. But they never think this stuff through, because it comes from — once again — a religious belief. That’s what the climate change philosophy has turned into.

CLAY: It also is reflective… Let’s just use rural people who might have an electric vehicle. I believe these things go like 250 miles, right? So to your point there are not, probably, a lot of charging stations in rural areas. So you have to drive a long way to a charge station, and then you have to spend substantial amounts of time charging.

BUCK: I think it’s 30 minutes, right?

CLAY: Yeah, 30 minutes to get a full charge assuming that there’s an open charging station available.

BUCK: You got a gas-guzzling SUV, Clay, ’cause you’re an American.

CLAY: Yeah, we have a couple of them, actually.

BUCK: Yeah, you’re an SUV guy. But what does it take, three minutes, four minutes maybe with something like that to charge. Yeah, you gotta sit there for 30 minutes. That’s another part of this. But I do have another question, though. Is it a lib move because I have posed this to a few friends, is it a lib move akin to getting a Prius back in the day. Remember the Prius?

CLAY: Oh, yeah.

BUCK: Which was fascinating because the Prius outsold I think it was the Chevy Volt dramatically. And people wondered why ’cause the Prius was a, in my opinion and many others, a particularly ugly car, right? The original Prius was just an ugly car. But it was all about showing everybody at that early stage that you were driving a hybrid electric car, right?

You were a hybrid driver. So everyone who bought them wanted everyone to see, “Oh, look at my ugly Prius. I care about climate change.” Teslas are kind of cool. I’m just putting this out there. Is it possible…? If you get a Tesla, is it a statement of lib allegiance, or do you just think that they’re kind of fun to drive, it’s like a souped up go-cart? I kind of like ’em is what I’m getting at here.

CLAY: I looked at the idea of getting a Tesla. I got a Range Rover instead to go ahead and prove that I at least am aware of how out of touch I am. The Range Rover is obviously, very expensive. The Tesla, that’s how I know how expensive the Tesla is; so why it would that you would be saying, “Hey, poor people, go buy a Tesla so you can save money on gas is a broken fallacy. In fact, the argument is if you look at how much you spend on the vehicle versus what you would be paying in gas, it takes a long time to actually earn back the money that you would be spending on gas.

BUCK: Apparently those batteries, too, and the rare earth metals that go into them are terrible for the environment, which is also very funny, right, because for a lot of people it’s an environmentalist move to get these.

CLAY: No doubt. I also think to your point on, “Is it a lib move?” I think Elon is enough of a open-minded thinker.

BUCK: He’s a capitalist.

CLAY: Yes. I don’t think of him as a left-wing loony bin member. In fact, I think he has a lot of the same opinions that you and I would have, and I think he tries to hide them a little bit in an effort to run as effective of a company as he can.

BUCK: I might have to mix it up and get, like, a Ford Mustang that makes a lot of vroom-vroom noise. And then get a Tesla so no one gets the wrong idea.

CLAY: Do you even have a car?

BUCK: No. My wheels got stolen, Clay. It’s still a point of sadness.

CLAY: Your “wheels,” meaning your scooter?

BUCK: My Mrs. Clinton scooter was stolen. Very sad.

CLAY: Yeah. We need to talk about your electric scooter getting stolen. By the way, as the Hollywood celebrity Seth Rogen says, that just happens.

BUCK: It does.

CLAY: Just deal with it.

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Fauci Offers No Science on Covid Shots, Masking

30 Nov 2021

BUCK: I wanted to start today with Fauci, Clay, who’s going out there, and I worry about that what’s going to happen is they’re going to immiserate as many people as they can going into this winter with the idea that it’s all a big precaution. Whenever we have to do… They’re not actually gonna base it on the numbers as they are in terms of mitigation measures and all this stuff, but in fear of what the numbers could be.

And they’re also going to suppress things that don’t conform to the narrative of “Do what we tell you or else!” Natural immunity. How important is it for all of us to get back to normal, to understand the scope and scale of natural immunity? Here’s Fauci when asked about this, and we’ll dissect the answer.

FAUCI: The issue of if you’ve been infected how long your protection lasts, we don’t have enough information of that to give a great deal of confidence. Although it is true, to be fair, that when you do get infected and you recover, you have a degree of protection that’s substantial. The question is what is the durability of that? And that’s the reason why the CDC recommends that even if you have been infected and recover, if you do get, uh, a vaccine, the level of your protection goes way, way up. And that’s the reason why they recommend it.

BUCK: What’s the durability of the vaccine, Clay? Do they know?

CLAY: No!

BUCK: They have a range.

CLAY: No, we don’t know how long it lasts. It’s not even a vaccine. We gotta start calling it a “covid shot,” because we don’t call it usually the “flu vaccine.” That’s basically what the covid shot is. It is a flu shot that potentially you’re gonna have to get every six months for the rest of your life, and it’s gonna provide limited protection going forward. So this is one of many reasons why when Dr. Fauci says, “I am science,” which is such a ridiculous thing to say…

He’s not actually science, because science would acknowledge that everyone isn’t at the same risk of covid and everyone’s medical needs as it pertains to covid would be different. A 5-year-old is under far less risk than an 85-year-old. A 40-ish-year-old person like me who has already had and recovered from covid is at a different risk than a 65-year-old who’s never been exposed to covid. These are all rational choices that individuals should be able to make going forward.

And, Buck, I was reading this morning, there evidently are studies that say 92% of people either now in the United States, certainly in England, have either had covid or gotten the vaccine. And you look at the numbers, by the way, 80% of people who are 18 years and older have already gotten at least one shot of the covid vaccine — over 99% of people who are 65 or older. If the covid vaccine really worked, if it were a true vaccine, we wouldn’t be seeing record highs in New Hampshire, in Michigan, in all of these states right now. We wouldn’t be seeing it happen.

BUCK: And so what is the response we’re gonna get from the health authorities? More of the same, by the way. Nothing changes from their perspective based on what we’ve gone through, what our experience has been. Again, Mr. “I Am Science; I Love Data” doesn’t really have a lot data or science to speak of on some of these issues. Here’s a perfect example. In New York City, Clay, they just declared… It’s gonna be tough.

CLAY: What are you gonna do? Tell people the latest in New York City and then we need to have a legitimate discussion about what you are going to do, because there’s a lot of people in blue states — New York, California, don’t forget Illinois — that have been so outlandish.

BUCK: New Jersey.

CLAY: New Jersey, Connecticut.

BUCK: It’s crazy. Connecticut, the whole New England, all upped northeast of the United States. Anyone who listens to us in the Pacific Northwest — you know, Oregon. We got a big audience in Oregon. We have people listening in Washington State. Clay, it’s gonna be a mess because they’re gonna go back to I think preemptively. So what I had been hoping for — and I really was hoping — was that preemptively, they would at least wait to see what the numbers were.

Remember we kept saying over summer, “I don’t know how bad covid is gonna be. It’s so tough to tell.” But what I’m seeing now is they’re not gonna wait to look at the numbers in New York and California really. They’re going to start implementing things in advance of what they think is the surge that’s coming even in heavily vaccinated states, places like Vermont. By the way, they’re setting all-time records even though they have sky-high vaccination rates and does Fauci ever get pushed on what’s going on with that?

CLAY: Of course not.

BUCK: Oh, it’s just the unvaccinated. It’s not just the unvaccinated. They were lying about that.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That was either… You could say they were catastrophically wrong, or they were lying. But, yes, the unvaccinated are at higher risk for hospitalization and death based on the data. True. In terms of spread, the numbers have gotten a lot closer to where we can’t even talk about breakthrough infections as breakthroughs, right, because they’re happening all over the place. I know… Don’t you know? I know plenty of people — I’ve met people, I have friends — who were fully vaccinated, got covid. Right?

CLAY: It’s happening in sports left and right, Buck, which is where a lot of people see it, right? Coaches and players are being held out because they’re testing positive for covid. They’re double unvaccinated. It’s still happening.

BUCK: You and Mrs. Travis are have to get one of those like little prefab houses that they sometimes will throw up for mules or farm animals, a little guesthouse for me on the property. I don’t know if I can handle it.

CLAY: People gonna have to make this choice. You’re a single guy so a lot of people are held down by kids or jobs or parents or a variety of different reasons. In theory, you can do — and we’ve run this radio show all over this country. We appreciate all the affiliates. I’m gonna be in Atlanta at our affiliate on Friday for the SEC championship game. You’ve done the show all over the place — Florida, Milwaukee — but what are you gonna do if they start saying, “Hey, you have to wear masks everywhere again. When you’re in the gym, you have to have a mask on while you’re on the treadmill or lifting weights or whatever else”? Are you gonna do this all winter?

BUCK: I don’t know, man. They’re just gonna make us all fat and miserable again and not stop covid because that doesn’t stop it. It didn’t stop it the last time —

CLAY: Zero impact effectively.

BUCK: — or dramatically reduce it. Otherwise, we would see it in the data. Here’s Fauci. Notice how quickly, by the way, when I talk about the Travis guesthouse he changes the subject. You know what I mean? He’s like, “Buck, where are you going to going?” I’m like, “I don’t know. Travis Manor? I hear good things about it.”

CLAY: It is a nice place.

BUCK: We’ve got Fauci here telling everybody: Masks, they do “something.”

FAUCI: Well, masking certainly does something. I don’t think there’s any doubt about that. Uh, the idea about mandates, again, it depends on where you are and what circumstances you’re in. One thing’s for sure that if you are in indoor congregate setting where you don’t know the vaccination status of the people around you, you should wear a mask. We’re gonna be traveling soon; people will be traveling for the upcoming holidays. You’re gonna be in airports that are generally crowded. Keep that mask on. I know when people go eat at the food courts to the best of your ability stay away from that and keep your mask on.

CLAY: Don’t eat, don’t drink.

FAUCI: You have to have your mask on when you’re on the plane, but make sure you have it on when you’re at the airport.

BUCK: Clay, this guy is —

CLAY: Oh, my God.

BUCK: It’s really gotten to me too much. First of all, he says we talk about masks, it “certainly does something.” I want to be like, “Okay, smart-ass. What does it do? What are the data? Give me the numbers.” At least with vaccinations, they have data, and they’ll present you with the data. And the data on preventing people from going to the hospital or dying is still very strong.

Hopefully it continues to be that way. The data on stopping the spread you’ve noticed they’ve gotten a little fuzzier on because it’s gotten weaker and weaker. That’s why we have boosters. We all know what’s going on here. Where’s this data on masking? Give me the numbers. Thirty percent reduction, 10% reduction. If you have no data, it is not science. It is superstition.

CLAY: Also, the phrase “certainly does something” is the exact opposite of science. To your point, share the actual data. But even using that phrase. If you said to someone, if you try to make that argument to your kids, “Hey, I need to you to clean your room.” “Why?” “Because it certainly does something.” They’d be like… “I told you so” is a better argument than “it certainly does something.”

The data reflects, by the way, that it certainly doesn’t do anything because, again, when he says, “Certainly does something,” and this is important, a lot of what they’re saying is if you wear a surgical N95 mask there is some degree of protection but people aren’t wearing those. The masks that people are wearing, the stupid cloth masks, the gators from the neck that you pull up, is worthless. It’s totally and completely worthless. You are a sheep at this point if you are still walking around with your mask feeling like you are doing anything to make things safer.

BUCK: I don’t want to dodge your question about what will I do as a New Yorker, and we have a huge number of folks listening on WOR NYC right now, right? A lot of people are right outside the city, some live in the city, but they’ll be dealing with the madness too. What will I do here? I don’t know, man. I think that Florida as a beacon of freedom is becoming — at least for the winter period of possible Fauciite madness — increasingly attractive and Governor Ron, he’s just spiking it in the end zone of the libs these days.

He is so en fuego. Check this out.

DESANTIS: In Florida, we will not let them lock you down. We will not let them take your jobs. We will not let them harm your businesses. We will not let them close your schools. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. To even be entertaining the idea of doing destructive, disastrous policies like lockdowns, I mean, honestly, I’m not surprised because I think some people are just wired for this, but it is not going to happen in the state of Florida. You can take that to the bank.

BUCK: Boom.

CLAY: And that might be a persuasive case for you to just say, “I’m going to Florida for the winter.” You gonna relocate?

BUCK: EIB South, my man. We might have to make it happen: EIB Command down in Florida. It’s been there before. So —

CLAY: Yeah, Rush was in Florida for a long time. I mean, honestly, if I were still living in New York or California or Illinois or the Northeast and I was having to deal with a potential ‘nother winter of lockdowns, I would move. I would get out of there. I wouldn’t be able to deal with it. I would have lost my mind before now. I’m so glad to live in the free states of the SEC footprint. God bless red state America.

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CLAY: We talked about the fact that the covid vaccine has really turned into a covid shot, and now it’s also turned into an incredible annuity and moneymaker for all of these drug companies out there that now have everybody required to consume their product. If you doubt me, listen here to the Pfizer CEO as he explains that an annual revaccination against covid is the most likely scenario going forward. Listen to this.

ALBERT BOURLA: I did make a projection months ago about the most likely scenario it is that we will need a third dose, annual vaccinations against covid. I’m more confident right now that this will be the case than I was when I made the projection. I think we are going to have an annual revaccination, and that should be able to keep us really safe.

CLAY: Annual shots for covid, Buck. In a short period of time, we’ve gone from, “Get the vaccine; you won’t get covid. You’ll have no danger whatsoever,” to, “Get two vaccine shots, get a booster — and also, every year for the rest of your life you’re going to have to get the covid vaccine.” You know what that sounds like?

BUCK: Sounds like something we’ve been saying on this show for months now.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: It sounds like we’ve been telling everybody that based on the logic of their position, their mentality around this whole issue — the ferocity with which they have suppressed natural immunity and also simultaneously gone after the unvaccinated as the source of all problems — that we are heading for a perpetual vaccination cycle, and what we are in right now. Now, that could stop.

The same way people could point out, “Yeah, if there is a variant that comes along let’s say that entirely or largely gets around the vaccine, well, you can come up with a new vaccine.” There are scientific advances that we can’t account for right at this second that might end this thing, right? There’s that pill. Pfizer is the good one. Merck didn’t work out so well. I think that’s right.

So there’s a therapeutic which may be really effective down the line and maybe that gets everybody to calm down. But as it stands right now, we’re heading into, “Gget vaccinated; get revaccinated every year,” and so the whole system that’s in place, I mean, in New York you have vaccine passports to go indoors pretty much anywhere. That stays, right? Why would they get rid of that?

CLAY: I think it’s a great question. It’s one I got asked today. I do an anonymous mailbag on OutKick where I answer questions. And somebody said, “Hey, when does this end?” And to me it’s a market-based decision. I really feel like capitalism ultimately wins. And I think it’s when all these restaurants and when all these indoor establishments… Look, we saw, for instance, where I live the Nashville Predators hockey team ended their covid vaccine and negative covid requirement — covid test requirement, one or the other — because people weren’t going.

Mark Cuban down in Dallas made the decision: Hey, the Dallas Mavericks aren’t going to require this anymore. I think people need to vote with their money and their pocketbooks. I’m making the decision, Buck, I don’t really want to go to New York City unless I’m going for work. I’m not gonna take a vacation to New York City ’cause we can’t do anything ’cause I’m unvaccinated.

BUCK: Wait. You don’t want to come visit the freezing-cold gulag here that de Blasio has set up?

CLAY: No. My wife, we were talking about this. We’re gonna go to Key West instead. But we would have liked to go to New York and maybe watch a play, stay in a hotel, go out to a couple of nice restaurants. I enjoy that visit. I ain’t doing it now, and I think there’s a lot of people voting just like I am with their pocketbooks — and ultimately, that has an impact over time.

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SEN. PAUL: Most of his edicts are not biased in science. When kids should wear masks in school is a very debatable subject and ought to be debated. In Sweden, no kids wear masks — 1.8 million kids, they haven’t worn masks in school at all for the last two years — and they haven’t had any deaths.

And you say, “well, what about the teachers?” Well, it turns out the teachers don’t get covid at a greater rate than the rest of the public. So it turns out maybe we don’t have to have our kids in masks. Should we have that debate? No, Dr. Fauci says. he is the all-powerful Oz and we shouldn’t question him.

BUCK: Rand Paul holding Fauci to account, the senator from Kentucky, the thorn in Fauci’s side. So he’s right on the mask issue there. These are policy questions that they pretend are settled by science.

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30 Nov 2021

CLAY: Jussie Smollett, huge superstar of the Empire television show, he is on trial now, finally — several years after his fake race crime — and this is from Guy Benson, who had put this together. You texted it to me during our last break. I was having a drink, and I literally… You know, every now and then you read something so funny, and you just spit your drink out, literally a spit take. That’s what I did on this.

Jussie Smollett, okay, not only did they have the fake hate crime staged; they did a rehearsal of the fake hate crime. Here is what Jussie Smollett said, and part of it’s on video. Not even just the fake hate crime is on video, the rehearsal of the fake hate crime is partly on video. Jussie Smollett said, “I want you to attack me but when you hit me, I want you to kind of pull your punches a bit because I don’t want to be seriously hurt.”

Smollett also instructed them to put a rope around his neck — these are his accused attackers — to, quote, “make it look more like a lynching,” like a hate crime. “The three men,” he had two attackers, “went on a dry run from the attack, part of which was captured on surveillance camera. Smollett’s Mercedes can be seen circling the intersection showing the brothers the area where he wanted the attack to occur.” Buck, I want this guy to get hit with the full force of American justice. I would be perfectly fine if he went to prison for the rest of his life for what he tried to do with this fake racism attack.

BUCK: Can I just say, you have to remember, everybody — you have to remember — that even after he was caught, just a little trip down memory lane, even after the video of the two actor brothers buying the rope and even after the whole thing fell apart, Jussie had the gall to call upon his friend, Kim Foxx, the DA, to not only dismiss the case but try to lock down the case, and then Jussie walked out of that courtroom sanctimonious about how he was falsely accused.

So should Jussie Smollett get the three years, I think, he faces in prison? Hell, yeah, he should. Absolutely. There were Blue Checks, Clay, when this was going on, who were coming at me from all over the place, “How do you not believe Jussie? It’s so racist not to believe Jussie!” People are such idiots because they want to believe the narrative, because they’ve been told the narrative so many times.

CLAY: The demand for racism is so much more extensive than the actual existence of racism, at least overt like this. Keep in mind what Jussie Smollett was trying to do. He was trying to advance his own career by making himself a victim of the highest magnitude imaginable. That’s how much being a victim pays in this country. That’s what he was trying to do.

And, Buck, that’s why I think he should have to spend the rest of his life in prison. I understand there are people out there who are gonna say, “Oh, it’s not that significant of a crime in general.” I disagree when you consider what he was trying to do. He wasn’t trying to divide all of us based on racial identity politics, he was trying to make himself a victim, he was trying to basically say every Trump supporter is a racist.

Not only a racist, the kind of person who would show up and try to lynch modern-day someone like him. I don’t think there is a punishment significant enough for him behind bars. The idea that he would not go to jail at all is to me crazy. It has to happen, and I don’t think there’s a punished that’s too consequential that he should face. Certainly the financial punishment is he should have to pay for this entire investigation that took place. But, Buck, I think they should lock him up and throw away the key. I think he should go away for a long time.

BUCK: It looks like he might.

CLAY: Amen.

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Democrats Consider Dumping Kamala onto the Supreme Court

30 Nov 2021

CLAY: Kamala Harris’ approval rating as low as 28%. When Joe Biden took office, the idea was, “He’s the old white guy! He’s going to pass the baton to Kamala Harris. It will be a seamless transition at some point in time. She will become the new standard-bearer of the Democratic Party — a black woman, first woman president, first black woman president.” All these things were going to be remarkable. It was going to be joyous.

It ain’t working out. Things have gotten so bad that, according to a recent Guardian report, the Biden White House, Buck, is thinking about putting Kamala Harris on the Supreme Court and as a way to get her out of the vice president’s office — as a way to clear the deck, so to speak, for a new future of the Democratic Party and to fulfill the promise that Joe Biden has already made when he said he’s going to put a black woman on the Supreme Court.

Somehow, that didn’t turn into a big story that he was automatically limiting his selection choices for who was going to be his Supreme Court nominee to a race and to a sex before he even looked at the available options. What odds, Buck Sexton, do you give this of actually happening? Do you think Kamala would accept this nomination? Do you think it’s possible that this happens at all?

BUCK: She’s not qualified. So, start with that, right? There would be quite a Senate confirmation situation here, ’cause she’s just not qualified for that job. I mean, you could talk about, “Oh, she went to law school.” Great. Lot of people went to law school. Doesn’t mean very much.

CLAY: She was the attorney general of California.

BUCK: I was gonna say she was the attorney general of California but she’s never been in a judge role and does not have the kind of knowledge of the law that you would really need to be on the Supreme Court, although, as I sit here and say this all out loud, I think of some of the other people that the Democrats have put forward to the Supreme Court, and it will be interesting. Maybe it will be closer than I think. I think the chance of this is really small because it would be obvious to a lot of people that they’re just trying to side… First of all, the notion of “sidelining” somebody to the Supreme Court is kind of amazing.

CLAY: Lifetime commitment. She’s relatively young. She’d be there 30 or 40 years.

BUCK: I also think that she doesn’t want it. I think that Kamala doesn’t want to be one of nine at the Supreme Court and having her clerks writing her opinions. No, no. I think she wants to be in the game, in the political game in a serious way. I can tell you this much: She’s not convinced that she isn’t gonna be president, not even a little bit.

CLAY: Do you think Biden’s gonna run again? That’s the question, right? Is Biden going to run? I don’t even know exactly when he’s gonna have to make his decision. We’ve talked a lot more about whether Trump is gonna run in 2024 on this show, as a valid reason because it’s a topic of concern that everybody has. We haven’t talked as much about Biden running, because my general presumption was from the moment he took office there’s no way he tries to run in 2024 again. But as Kamala has been such a disaster, I wonder whether they might try and drag Joe across the finish line again, as I keep saying, Weekend at Bernie’s 2 style. If you were betting right now, do you think, Buck, that he runs in 2014? I still don’t think that he is personally.

BUCK: So I’m one of these people who suffers from trying to not make the same error here twice about how ruthless and reckless the Democrats are willing to be if they think something will work. From the very beginning of the Democrat primary for the 2020 election, I was like, “There’s no way it’s gonna be Joe Biden ’cause this guy’s a repeat loser and he’s too old and he’s uninspiring,” and it turned out, of course, no.

I wasn’t the only one, by the way. There were some others, there were hosts at Fox. People were saying it can’t be Joe Biden; that’s a joke. Turns out it was Joe Biden, right? So while we see this once again with Joe Biden if you were to observe this rationally and if you were taking a reason based approach to it, yeah, he’s declining. Yeah, he’s a guy who should not be president now so clearly he shouldn’t run for president again. But if he is their best option at reelection. I can tell you this: I know Democrats believe if Trump runs, they want a replay with Biden. They think that Biden is their best shot.

CLAY: Two white guys is the best shot for them.

BUCK: They think he’s their best shot against Trump. Whether that’s true or not — and people can of course have all sorts of opinons; this is all speculation and we don’t know. But the Democrats that I speak to say if they can do a redo of 2020, because what does that turn into? It turns into the insurrection, it turns into the mean tweets, all this stuff that will be a distraction from Biden’s failed record. But I think that they will run Biden again right now.

I think that is the plan. Because if you’re going to have someone replace Biden, have him step aside for health reasons, why not do it when they have a clear runway of a few years of second term of Biden, you know what I mean? Why not? Now we’re years out, Clay, right? We’re three years away from this decision. What is Biden’s health, and “health” is one way of putting it. Just how does it feel with this guy walking around, muttering things, clearly not always really with it. That doesn’t get better. So in a year or two it may actually be untenable. That’s the only way that I would kind of preface all these things I just said.

CLAY: That’s what I feel as well. But what I would say is we’re not that far away, right? Because let’s presume that Iowa’s gonna start in January of 2024. We’re almost to January of 2022. As soon as the midterms happen, everybody will start to announce by June or July of 2023, right? That will be a late time announcement. When did Biden announce? He announced late before, right, in 2020. He didn’t announce in ’19.

He didn’t announce ’til, like, May, did he? In May of ’19, I think he announced he was running for president. So if he is going to box out everybody else, then this decision is gonna be made within like a year and a half. That’s basically the run-up that we have right now, and even with Biden I think he could push it a little bit later. But to your point, in a year and a half, maybe he’s not so mentally declined that he does try to run, and that would box a lot of other people out.

BUCK: The easy way of pulling this all together analytically is just saying whatever the plan is — whoever has the plan is, whoever really knows it — could very well forcefully change here insofar as you have a Biden who it’s no longer possible to prop him up. It’s no longer possible for the media to get away with acting like this guy has the energy, the mental acuity and sharpness necessary for the job.

It could be a rapid deterioration the next year or so. By the way, I didn’t wish this on anybody and I hope that any politician any president enjoys as long health and as healthy as run as humanly possible. But the point here being that whatever the plan is right now, the plans could very well change. The real issue for why the Kamala discussion’s even happening… Do you think…? I give that a 10% shot. You ask me for a permission, I think it’s a one in 10 shot that they go — you know, those are not odds that would keep me up at night.

CLAY: She would have to advocate for it. It would have to be a recognition by her that her political future is not gonna be found in the presidency, right? That she’s never gonna be elected president. I’m with you in that I just don’t see her being willing to acknowledge that.

BUCK: The president right now, though, is a guy who lost over and over, who was weak in the polls, right?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: So she sees it. I think of the kind of people we’re talking about here when you’re looking at, you know, Biden and Kamala and the top of the Democrat power apparatus, they are in love with themselves. They think that they are part of moving American history in the right direct and all this stuff. They really believe that they, meaning anybody who’s — and it’s true on the Republican side too, by the way. Let’s be fair, right?

Anyone at this level of politics has at some stage or some level of belief that they’re really special. And I can tell you this: Kamala definitely has it and definitely believes that she can be president, that the polls aren’t representative. She’s the vice president. It doesn’t matter if she took her case to the American people. So I just bring that up because she won’t step down. Supreme Court? How often do you hear about Kagan or Sotomayor on a day-to-day basis, for example, just to pick two Supreme Court justices appointed by Democrats? How often do you hear about them?

CLAY: Not very often. And the other thing I would say from a legal perspective, Buck, is most of the time on the Supreme Court, you absolutely love the nuance, technicality, majesty of the law. There are people out there who truly love the law. I was not one of them. I loved being in law school. I didn’t like the idea of being a clerk or studying the law or the intricacies of it. I never got the idea that Kamala does either. I think that factors in a big way as well.

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What’s the Fate of Bro Cuomo at CNN?

30 Nov 2021

BUCK: Chris Cuomo, the CNN host — not to be confused with the former and now disgraced governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo — has now been… Let me just make sure I get this one right. It’s tough to keep up with all of the various Cuomo scandals as they grow. I think it is important for everyone to remember, Governor Cuomo of New York was — for a long time, for many months — second only to Anthony Fauci himself when it comes to being sainted in the period of covid. Second only to Fauci.

CLAY: He got an Emmy, a special Emmy! They made up a special Emmy for him, Buck, and I think they took it back now, now that he’s had to resign.

BUCK: He got like a five… It ended up being all-in, like a $5 million book deal. Former presidents maybe get $5 million book deals and libs that the establishment and the elite apparatus want to reward for what they have done. But here we have CNN saying they’re gonna conduct a “thorough review of documents” showing Chris Cuomo — here we go — “trying to advise his brother during the sexual harassment scandal as it was unfolding.”

And the new information says that they may have even had Chris Cuomo try to find out background on the accusers of his brother. So that is interesting because it starts to raise a question: Was the plan here to smear the accusers, perhaps, to undermine their credibility? That doesn’t feel very #MeToo for CNN, does it? That doesn’t feel like “all women should be believed,” all these phrases that if you ever watch CNN — which, unfortunately, I have done, but I do it so all of you don’t have to — you would say to yourself, “That doesn’t feel like what the mission statement is over there,” Clay.

CLAY: Well, and I think the bigger picture here is what’s CNN going to do? They are floundering. Every single week their viewership declines even more. They needed Trump far more, it turns out, than Fox News needed Trump. They basically built their entire network as an anti-Trump apparatus. So now… Look, I don’t begrudge Chris Cuomo for standing up for his own brother. I’ve got three boys. You’ve got a couple of brothers. I would hope that my kids would watch out for each other more so than they would worry about how people are going to respond to them.

BUCK: I’d bend and even break some rules to defend my brothers, no question about it.

CLAY: I would hope that my boys would do the same in the years ahead. But that’s different than what CNN should do in response to this — and, by the way, CNN’s got new owners, and they don’t seem very of those or confident in the woke universe that they’ve created because the market’s not responding to it. So I know this is inside baseball for some people, but I do think it’s a significant question.

If CNN is going to hold itself to the same standard that it claims to hold politicians to, there’s no way Chris Cuomo can stay employed at the network. It would be impossible for him to maintain his job based on the standard they have set for politicians and the coverage of those politicians.

BUCK: Do you think he goes, Clay? You’ve been pretty good at declaring the fate of The Brothers Cuomo up to this point.

CLAY: I think that he will end up leaving. I do. I think he’s pivoting out of being woke right now in a way that’s trying to preserve himself for a new destination. I think he’s gonna be gone.

BUCK: Let’s see. Bro Cuomo, what is his fate?

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