Surgeon General Spreads Lies to Keep Kids Masked in School

21 Oct 2021

CLAY: I think it’s important that we call out lies when they occur, and we try to do that on a regular basis. And I think the worst kind of lie is one that is designed to inflame fear, because there is so much lying going on on a day-to-day basis that it is hard not to at times get overwhelmed and just sit back and say, what is the actual truth? Which is why, Buck, if you and I — and we’ve talked about this on the show before — if we get a fact wrong, like, we feel sick to our stomachs —

BUCK: I’m embarrassed.

CLAY: — on this show. Yes.

BUCK: I’m embarrassed.

CLAY: If we get a fact wrong. And look. Opinions — there’s a big difference between a fact and an opinion. But when you are a public health authority — and you — and Buck and I look at all the data, we know everybody’s busy, we look at all the data on masking. We pay attention to it. But we feel sick to our stomachs if we get a fact wrong and, if we do, we come back and say, hey, we told you this. It turns out that did not end up being true. It’s what we try to do. That’s our promise to you. One of the things that I think is the most infuriating, and there are a lot of things about covid that are infuriating on public health officials who should know better continuing to sell us things that are factually untrue and not supported by the data. So I’m gonna play the falsehood first. I want to make it clear, this is not true, okay?

This is not accurate. And then we’re going to bring you the actual truth on the flip side in the next segment. But first let’s play cut 2 from Vivek Murthy who is trying to argue that masks make sense and that they make us all safer. This is the Surgeon General of the United States, Vivek Murthy.

MURTHY: And I worry about efforts in — in some states and some localities to — to move schools away from universal mask requirements and testing because we have seen now that schools that have universal masking in place are much, much less likely and more than three and a half times less likely to have outbreaks in schools compared to schools that don’t have masking rules. This is our kids’ health that’s at stake. We’ve gotta take every measure to make sure they’re okay.

BUCK: No. No —

CLAY: That’s a lie.

BUCK: — no. I’m sorry. We’re not gonna let this fly, Clay, right? We’ll come back and give more data on the other side from, you know, a Harvard trained MD who happens to be the surgeon general for the state of Florida. Maybe he knows something. Maybe he knows something.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: We just played before in case you missed it the Surgeon General, Murthy, for the United States government, making a claim, making a claim that schools that don’t have mask mandates have 3.5 times the covid outbreaks of schools with mask mandates. I’ve looked at this study, and this is what it says on The Hill about it. “Out of the 191 schools in Maricopa and Pima counties in Arizona that experienced outbreaks by the end of August, 59.2% did not have a mask requirement compared to 8.4% that required masks from the start of the school year.” So they’re doing this from August. “This almost a third of outbreaks occurred in schools that implemented mask mandates asp the school year began.” Clay there’s no control group.

CLAY: It’s nonsense.

BUCK: It’s complete garbage. The study the surgeon general is citing is complete garbage. Here’s the Surgeon General at the — this is why they never want — we actually said this here on the show that one of the reasons there was such opposition to mask choice for kids in Florida schools was Florida would keep real data and there would be a control group —

CLAY: They did not want a control group.

BUCK: — mandated in schools where it was not and you’d be able to look at it. And here is what the Surgeon General of the state of Florida says, Harvard MD, Dr. Joseph Ladapo.

LADAPO: I want you guys to step back for a moment from what you hear sort of constantly on TV. And just very briefly in terms of the data that supports mask use in kids and mask mandates for masks in kids it is very weak and that’s a fact but there’s a substantial began between the quality of the data out there supporting masking kids yielding any benefit for kids whatsoever, factual. What we’re hearing from some of our public health leadership in other states and nationally.

In Florida we’re gonna stay close to the data, and we’re gonna let you know how we feel about the data. And the data do not support any clinical benefit for children in schools with mask mandates. The highest quality data finds no evidence of benefit. And that’s what — and we’re gonna stick with that because that’s what the data show.

BUCK: I mean, Clay, this guy — what, does he not know anything? He’s a Harvard MD. Does he not understand “the science”?

CLAY: Well, we had, you’ll remember the New York Magazine article writer who has been enmeshed in analyzing the data, David Zweig —

BUCK: That’s right.

CLAY: — I believe was his name at New York Magazine. And I would encourage people out there, we have shared this, maybe we can share it from the Clay and Buck Twitter account again, the science on masking children. There is no data out there that legitimately supports masking having any impact at all. And Florida, to your point, is such a great test case scenario because some counties in Florida mandated masks, contrary to what the governor had demanded in terms of parents just having their right to choose. And others did not. And the statistical significance of the two control groups, the masked schools and the nonmasked schools, there was no difference. And that’s because masks don’t work. And that is and remains a significant fact.

So you have the Surgeon General of the United States spreading a lie, propagating a falsehood, and then you have the Surgeon General of the state of Florida, I think both of them, by the way, are Harvard MDs, actually sharing the data from Florida. And remember the biggest study the CDC did was in the state of Georgia, and that was a big part of the science behind the article about masking kids in New York Magazine, David Zweig’s piece, and I think that involved, if I’m not mistaken, Buck, 90,000 kids.

I mean, it was a monstrous control experimental group because a lot of these studies, like, I’m sure the win in Maricopa County or whatever they’re trying to cite are tiny numbers of kids and there’s almost no statistical significance to them. We’ve got the whole state of Florida, we have a huge portion of the state of Georgia both proving that masking doesn’t make sense. And, by the way, we’ve got all these countries overseas that have done studies and their kids aren’t wearing masks.

BUCK: The U.K. has said no masks for kids in schools, they looked at the data. It’s just not there, the numbers aren’t there. Going back to the study, the Surgeon General, oh, he’s an expert, we’re supposed to listen to this guy, ear talking about 21% of these schools had a mask requirement since the beginning of the school year. Thirty percent added one later. Forty-eight percent never mandated masks at all. They have no, they’re just looking at this and, by the way, they only picked 16% of counties to analyze in their own state.

CLAY: They’re cherry-picking.

BUCK: One-fifth roughly of your counties that are changing masks, no masks, maybe masks, and then you’re coming up with this number. It’s absurd. In Florida it’s very straightforward. Some schools had mandates. Some schools did not. Did the schools with mandates do better than the schools without mandates? And, by the way, it’s not a ban on masks. It’s choice. No. You allow children to go to school with the choice, there was no difference statistically whatsoever. They ran the control group study. The mask maniacs are wrong.

But more than anything else, Clay, they’re the people I think who are still terrified. Oh, my gosh. You know, little — little Timmy or little Susie is gonna get covid, and they just can’t look at reality. And then there are the people for whom it’s really just about they don’t want to feel like they’ve been not that smart this whole time, you know, they think —

CLAY: They dont want to admit they were wrong.

BUCK: — was the responsible thing to do. They don’t want to find out at this point, oh, my gosh. I mean, even right now — I’ll tell you this, October 19th a professional at Harvard University’s Chance School of Public Health wrote a piece on how schools should do away with mask mandates by the end of the year. This is just crazy. And we just need to have a decision made, it’s done, end of this year, meaning December, done, no more masks —

CLAY: Christmas break it basically go away.

BUCK: And this is why I think it’s so important. Because that’s what we actually have to do. We actually just have to all come together and agree we’re not doing some of these things anymore. Not maybe we’ll do it again or we’re waiting and let’s check the data and all this other stuff. We have run the experiment, the Fauciites were wrong, end of story. But the pushback on this, as you know, is gonna be fierce because it’s become, it’s not just be about the science as we’ve known all along. It’s about political power and control.

CLAY: Well, and what’s also wild and infuriating about this, Buck, is when you look at it look at, like we said, the data, they’re still saying even with 5- to 11-year-olds being vaccinated, we played this from Rochelle Walensky, the director of the CDC yesterday, she said masking’s not gonna go away even when people 5 to 11 can get vaccinated. Now, I said I can come after me if you want, and I’m sure people will. I’m not getting my young kids vaccinated for covid because they have no risk of covid, right? I think they’ve already had it. My wife and I have had it, I think they probably have antibodies. I think they’ve been fine. That’s what the data would likely suggest in my own household. But if you are terrified of covid, get your kid vaccinated. That’s your choice. But why in the world should everybody still have to wear masks when anyone can get the vaccine that they want?

BUCK: You know how we say these things and we keep hammering the numbers and the data and we know that this audience — but it’s also important that I feel like we’re equipping, you know, we are a truth force multiplier here on the show. You know, we are, you know, God bless SF guys, Special Forces, but they train indigenous to be able to fight on behalf of U.S. interests. We’re like that with the truth and the data here, right? We’re trying to give people the facts and the numbers so that when they sit down to the Thanksgiving table and someone says, “Oh, my children can’t — they’re at such a risk from covid” and just to remind everybody that it’s not just stuff that we’re saying. We’re not pulling this out of thin air.

This Washington Post article that I just — I mentioned to you, a Harvard public health professor; so usually libs like Harvard. When it goes in their favor they like Harvard. He cites the same, quote, low risk for kids holds true for mortality with a risk for 5- to 11-year-olds has consistently been about one per million. It is a one in a million risk, my friends. We’re not exaggerating. That is the actual mortality risk. So when people think they’re so smart, what about measles, what — the risk of death from measles for a child is one in a thousand.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That’s very different from one in a million. I think we all understand that.

CLAY: And the one in a million, Buck, I think it’s also important to note, many of those kids have massive underlying medical conditions, right? We’re not talking about young, healthy kids that are dying with covid. Most of the kids that are dying and, I wish there were none, but most of them that are dying are — we shared the data before on the overall cause of mortality among young children. And covid by age range is less than 1% of the cause of death for kids in that age range. It’s wild.

By the way, nearly a third of us — and we’re gonna keep sharing all of this data with you every single days ’cause I do think it’s important, Buck’s point, the force multiplier that we all as a group help to share facts that matter and help to influence our political debates.

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C&B Tackle the Question: What Really Matters in Science?

21 Oct 2021

BUCK: What really matters in science? Clay and I are gonna tackle that question right now. Welcome back to the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. This story’s getting more and more national attention largely because of the arguments around it. It’s another instance of cancel culture, in effect. But it’s one thing when a person holds views that the left doesn’t like when it comes to literature, they’re gonna argue about history. But when it comes to science, physics, math, things like that, biochemistry — isn’t all that matters being correct? And don’t we want to elevate those who have the most knowledge, have the greatest research, the best breakthroughs? Isn’t that what science should be all about?

Well, if you look at what the Marxists want in this country, who control now the academy across the country, they actually would say no. They think that it matters to have more equity and inclusion, instead of actually just getting us to a place where we have the best and the right answers — in science.

This is the New York Times. “Dorian Abbot is a scientist who has opposed aspects of affirmative action. He is at the center of an argument now over free speech and acceptable discourse because he was invited to give a prestigious lecture….” Let me just tell you a little bit of the facts here and then Clay and I will break this down. “The Massachusetts Institute of Technology invited geophysicist Dorian Abbot to give a prestigious lecture this fall. He seemed a natural choice, a scientific star who studies climate change…” So he’s probably a left-wing guy, by the way, in a lot of ways. “…And whether planets in distant solar systems might harbor atmospheres conducive to life, a swell of angry resistance arose. Some faculty members and graduate students argued, objected that Dr. Abbot, a professor at the University of Chicago, had created harm by speaking out against aspects of affirmative action and diversity programs.”

This was his quote: “People as members all of group should not be judged rather than as individuals,” and he said that “his planned lecture at MIT made no mention of affirmative action views,” nevertheless, Clay, they canceled him from this and this is bringing up some interesting things.

Have you ever heard of this before? I’ll be honest, I have not heard of this until this came up. Citational justice. This is a new thing now. Citational justice argues that professors and graduate students must seek to cite more black, Latino, Asian, and Native American scholars and in some cases refuse to acknowledge the footnotes and research of those who hold distasteful views. So now we’re going to purge the scientific canon of people who are not LGBTQ or pro-affirmative action or whatever friendly enough. This is the destruction of science if taken to its ultimate end. This is crazy.

CLAY: And to me, Buck, what this boils down to, this battle over diversity and affirmative action boils down to equal opportunity versus equal outcome. The United States, I believe, does about as good of a job out there at providing equal opportunity. Now, we’re not all equal, right, in terms of our talents, and we’re not all equal in terms of our opportunity. People who are in wealthy households have access to better schools than people who are not, all those things. But what I think is so fascinating is, we never demand equal outcome in industries that are predominantly minority.

Let me give you an example. The NBA just started. Around 80%-ish of all NBA players are black. There’s no demand that NBA teams reflect the overall racial diversity of the United States, right? There’s no demand that 60% of all NBA players be white, 12% be black, 12% be Hispanic, whatever the current racial dynamics are, because we acknowledge and expect that the best will be employed because the goal is to get the best possible outcome for a team, the best players make the most money, all of those things. The meritocracy works in those respects. Why would the meritocracy not work in science when everyone’s yesterday ideas are being rigorously challenged every single day? This guy has already become an established scholar in his field. Maybe I’m a rarity. I don’t care what he thinks about anything else other than his field of spirit.

BUCK: This is back from October 5th when professor Dorian Abbot was speaking out about why MIT canceled him.

ABBOT: Yes, I do. My wife was born in Ukrainian and she had been baptized in secret because if the government found out her mother would have lost her job. And when she heard about what was happening on campus when I first told her, she said, “It sounds like what my mother told me about Soviet times.”

BUCK: Like Soviet times. This is why I throw around the term “commies” and I mean it, because this is what we’re up against now, particularly in academia in this country. And I want to give you another example. A professor at Williams College, the arch-rival of my teeny, tiny school in Massachusetts, Amherst College. You don’t pronounce the H, folks, just so you know. That’s always the giveaway. Amherst, not Amherst.

CLAY: I didn’t even know that.

BUCK: Yeah. It’s fancy. It’s fancy.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Professor Phoebe Cohen is a geosciences professor at Williams College, like I said, the rival. And when she was asked by the New York Times about the situation with Abbot, ’cause she was one of the professors who spoke out against him speaking at MIT very publicly, she was asked — this is by the New York Times — I want to make sure everyone understands. These are quotes I’m reading now, okay, from the New York Times. She was asked of the effect on academic debate. Should the academy search as a bastion of unfettered speech? She replied, and I quote, “This idea of intellectual debate and rigor has the pinnacle of intellectualism comes from a world in which white men dominated,” end quote. Clay, that is one of the most racist things I have seen anyone say, and now she’s a minority female professor; so she won’t get in any trouble, but I read the quote, it’s in the New York Times. The idea of intellectual rigor and debate as the height of intellectual stuff comes from a white dominated framework? By the way, this is an idea that’s widespread now in the academy. They’ll say this and if you point out how crazy and racist it is, you’re the bad person.

CLAY: Oh, of course. And understand that this represents the antithesis of all scientific knowledge, because science is about rigorously questioning dogma until you arrive at the hard, cold kernel of truth and so this idea that you can have ideas that are not acceptable in the world of science — I think covid has broken science in this country. Covid has broken a lot.

BUCK: Look. Can I add a variation? I think covid lockdowns have shown us how the left broke science. The best example of it, but these currents have been building for a long time.

CLAY: It used to be that science was able, because, as you said, there is a factual methodology to science. You arrive at a final certain truth, unlike, say, English, where we can debate forever what’s the greatest Shakespeare play or, unlike history, even, where we can debate, hey, was that the right decision in a about that? Was that the wrong decision? The goal of science is to distill complex questions to a truth, right? And I use as an easy example, we all agree, at least I think, that water freezes at 32 degrees. We have figured that out through science. And where water boils, for instance, there is a known truth in science that does not exist in many other aspects of education. And we’ve changed that.

BUCK: There’s just one thing I wanted to add here. Maybe we can get to a couple calls before we close out, too, in a few minutes here — Clay and I are so fired up today. We always say we have six hours of show and three hours of time, which is true in our heads. We could go on for six hours. But I’ll say this, Clay. It used to be there were certain situations you could give people when it comes to getting the right answers, the science, in this case maybe we could see the — you know, the physics, the aerodynamics. Do you want the best people building the plane that you’re going to fly auto with your family or do you want a crew that is pushed the large by either diversity and inclusion or gender parity or whatever?

It used to be everyone would say look no one wants the plane to crash so there are some limits here to the left-wing ideology and how far it can go. Now increasingly you’ll come across leftists who say sometimes plains have gotta crash and everyone in it’s gonna have to die if it means that diversity and inclusion is better represented in our society. They want people to have to pay the price for destroying the meritocracy. They accept that they will pay that price, which is a huge change from even when I was in college and what we used to talking about.

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FJB Chant Breaks Out in Liberal Boston!

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CLAY: We know that Joe Biden supposedly got 81 million votes in this country. It’s amazing how as soon as there’s a live audience of sports fans virtually anywhere, even in cities, Buck, like Boston, which ostensibly are major fertile, incredibly supportive Biden markets, as soon as they turn on the television screen, Boston Red Sox playing against the Houston Astros — some of you may have seen this last night — this is right outside Fenway Park in Boston. Listen to what the crowd had to say. I believe we have the audio.

BUCK: I could chant it. It’s not even “Let’s go, Brandon.” It’s the other version.

(playing clip)

FJB chants take over during Astros-Red Sox post game in Boston. pic.twitter.com/K7n0JhIhfi

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) October 21, 2021

CLAY: I mean, Buck, you can’t even put on live television audiences now because the FJB — and you could hear that being — being blocked out — chants are so overwhelming that that’s the first thing that crowds of fans want to do.

BUCK: I think this is indicative of an overall mood in the country right now that, even if you are a Democrat who voted for Biden, you are very frustrated because he dramatically overpromised to the point where it feels really dishonest, right? He’s the used car salesman who says this thing is, you know, the AC works great and it goes 130 miles an hour on the highway and you get into the car and it spurts and it can’t seem to get past to 55 without sounding like the thing is gonna, you know, explode.

Joe Biden oversold, underdelivered, even for Democrats. I hear from leftists, by the way, who are furious at my because the commies — the real communism has never been tried anywhere including here in America. So that’s always their thing. “There is no left wing in America.” Sure. Right. Whatever. But the point is, here’s nobody who does not work for Joe Biden and/or is not obsessed with the “anything but Trump” mantra as the only thing they care about who thinks Joe Biden’s doing a good job, including sports fans, apparently, across America.

CLAY: Well, and also, remember the early fear was, oh, with Joe Biden they’re gonna remove and replace him with Kamala? Kamala has been worse. Did you see — I mean, this is amazing. So she just had I think it’s her 57th birthday party and so they were having a surprise birthday, “surprise” is in quotation marks, right? To the extent that you can surprise fin in the federal government who has security detail and everything else, is probably unlikely you really get really surprised. But so they have this ostentatious room all set up for Kamala Harris so they can surprise her for her 57th birthday. She walks in, and the first thing she says to everybody is “surprise!” She said surprise to all of the people that were supposed to be surprising her.

BUCK: Classic Kamala Harris. If anyone’s gonna spoil their own surprise birthday party, you would think it would be Kamala Harris, who — it’s just the whole thing, it’s all so staged and so phony and her constituency —

CLAY: — about her is fake.

BUCK: — is the editorial board of New York Times and CNN executives. That’s who’s really pro-Kamala. Everybody else including the Democrats are like, ah, not so much.

.@VP shouts “Surprise!” upon arriving at her own surprise birthday celebration pic.twitter.com/j9jMGqoOsH

— Katherine Doyle (@katiadoyl) October 20, 2021

CLAY: Well, and it’s so weird because it’s like she does the opposite of what a human would do almost every time. Right? Which is evidence that you’re stage-managed.

BUCK: Almost like she lacks authenticity and connection with voters and the Democrats, if they were hoping that Joe Biden was gonna be the steppingstone for a Kamala presidency, I tell you this much. If we place bets on a Kamala versus Trump…

CLAY: Oh, my goodness.

BUCK: Oh, I don’t think that’s gonna go well for the Democrats.

CLAY: Beat-down for the ages would be coming if it were Kamala against Trump or, frankly, I think Kamala against anybody. It would be a disaster.

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Are We Heading for a Rough Covid Winter?

21 Oct 2021

CLAY: We talk a lot about the data on this show and sometimes that data is not necessarily encouraging. Certainly during the Biden administration there have been a lot of data — inflation, border crossings, covid — that has been really uncomfortable data to have to discuss. Buck, the national media is not talking about one of the biggest issues that’s, I think, going to continue to emerge and that is — I know you were looking at the England data. England just went over 50,000 covid cases for the first time in months.

BUCK: A day.

CLAY: A day. Yes. Sorry. For a day, in England, where they have really good covid data that’s reliable for the nation. And Maine and Vermont are two of the most vaccinated states in our country, and the number of covid cases there are skyrocketing as well. England just released new national data that further confirms the people dying in their country now with covid, over 70% of them are double vaccinated.

So if you look at the data out there right now, Maine setting all-time highs, Vermont setting all-time highs, no one in the media is talking about this, but what Maine and Vermont have in common, obviously, is it gets colder there earlier than it does in many other parts of the country. There is an ominous tracking forecast here that suggests — and again covid can make pools of predictors, it certainly has and we’re not trying to be in the prediction business. We try to be in the talk about the data business because Lord knows I’ve gotten a lot wrong, you have too when you try to predict where this thing is gonna go purely from an epidemiological perspective and, by the way, Fauci who’s supposed to be the biggest expert has gotten everything wrong all the time.

BUCK: The difference is, Clay, the people that admit that they can be wrong here are the only honest ones.

CLAY: That’s right. That’s right. But I’m looking at the data, and I’m getting increasingly concerned that we are headed for a really rough winter. And that everything out there that is being sold to us, which is that this is primarily a pandemic of the unvaccinated — how many times have you heard Joe Biden utter phrases like that? Well, the data doesn’t reflect that that’s remotely true in Vermont and Maine.

And I tweeted this last night, but this is one of the reasons why I’d like to have Dr. Fauci on this show, because he doesn’t get asked honest and intelligent questions by hardly anyone in the media. And the number one question I would ask Dr. Fauci if we had him on this show right now — and I’m curious what you think about this, and it ties in with what’s going on in Florida and what’s going on all over the country in terms of our basic freedoms — if Vermont is 90% vaccinated, which is true, adults are, and they are setting all-time highs for covid infections, why is vaccination going to lead us out of this covid pandemic?

Now, you could argue Fauci, if he was smart, might say, well, the vaccination is not going to stop cases from spreading, but what it will do is limit the overall severity of the infections, and that could be an argument. But, Buck, if I had told you back in January when they were rolling out this vaccine that as we approached late October states like Maine and Vermont, two of the most highly vaccinated states in the country, would be setting all-time highs, that would be staggering information, it would be overwhelming, and it would go directly to the efficacy and success of the vaccine itself, which is the essence of this issue, I believe.

BUCK: If it really is just unvaccinated people who are getting sick in Maine and Vermont — think about the way it has always worked here. When the apparatus and the Fauciites have numbers that they can point to — we see them. They want people know about it, we see it all the time — so why aren’t we seeing this day in and day out? Yeah, they’ll give you data from August. They’ll give you data from 60 days ago pretty readily, maybe from September. But we’re now almost through October, and we’re at the point where the respiratory virus season in the more, you know, temperate northern states of the country starts to kick up in a serious way in places like where I am here in New York, even in Tennessee to a degree, right? So this is happening. Why don’t we know what the numbers really are?

And also there’s a fundamental disconnect that they don’t address. If we have to get people boosters because without the boosters not only will they get sick, they could end up in the hospital even as a vaccinated person, that is an admission that this is effectively a short-term therapeutic and that what we were sold on what these vaccines in the beginning is fundamentally not what actually ended up happening, not correct. So they’re hoping to get everybody, oh, boosters, boosters. This is what we planned all along. Is absolutely not what the plan was all along, at least not the way they sold the plan all along — some people are saying, oh, Buck, they always knew this. That may be true, but this isn’t the way that they got us to all agree with this and that’s why I think Senator Rand Paul sang that this has become so arbitrary and so made up as they go along really resonates.

PAUL: I think any mandate that ignores the science is really arbitrary and capricious and should not be honored so many of these policemen and fireman were out there every day they caught covid naturally a hundred million Americans have caught covid naturally and have developed antibodies and immunity to it studies out of say their immunity is as good or in all likelihood better than vaccinated immunity, but the bottom line is all of their arguments fall they say, oh, the unvaccinated are making us less safe. Well, it turns out that if you’re vaccinated you can carry it also. There is no perfect safety that anybody can find, and really the ultimate personal choice, the most personal choice of all is what you inject into your body, what you take. And look. I’m not against the vaccine. If you are at high risk in particular, by all means get vaccinated. But you should have a choice. It’s a free country.

BUCK: Sounds like two people we know.

CLAY: Yeah. But this goes to the very biggest question that I think is out there about covid. How do we land the plane? How do we return to normalcy if what we are being sold as our pathway back to normalcy, ’cause that’s what their guy saying, Buck, they’re saying, “Hey, if everybody were vaccinated right now, covid wouldn’t be an issue.” And what I’m and what you’re seeing with the data is, that is not true. And so if that’s not true, which is what the data is telling us, then how do we return to normalcy, and how do we prepare the American public for a reality, ’cause they’ve been so terrified and so scared, for a reality that covid’s never are going to go away and it’s gonna be here with us for the rest of our lives?

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21 Oct 2021

CLAY: Welcome back to the Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us, helping us to fight battles in favor of truth, justice and the American way.

BUCK: Not a better tomorrow. Not going with that new Superman slogan. Sorry.

CLAY: Can you believe that? They took away truth, justice and the American way? For those of you who don’t know, they took “American way” out of the Superman slogan, which sounds like a small thing, and it is in the grand scheme of the larger universe. But it’s just reflective of how many people in entertainment hate the American way right now. They have been sold on the idea that America’s an awful place, that it’s a fundamentally racist and anti-human rights universe, and I want to give credit, by the way, I invited this guy on our show I sent him a DM, Enes Kanter who is an NBA player but is from Turkey.

And he knows firsthand the impacts of what can happen when you speak out and say what you truly believe. He’s not allowed to return to the country, Buck. There’s a warrant for his arrest. Sometimes he’s not even able to travel outside of the United States. His family has been imprisoned over fighting for basic human rights in Turkey and ending in the crosshairs of that government.

BUCK: The Erdogan regime in Turkey has, I think, per capita jailed more journalists than any country in the world, with a possible exception of China, but we don’t really know what the China numbers are. But Turkey is, the regime is a straight-up enemy of free speech and journalism as a general issue, general she doesn’t want to so you guys know and probably remember last year I believe it was before all covid madness, it might have been a year and a half ago I guess, when Daryl Morey spoke out and said free honk. It’s all he did was at the time Houston Rockets general manager, turned into a massive conflagration all over China, all over the United States, really. The NBA games were banned for over a year. You couldn’t watch them. China demanded that Morey apologize. The NBA players did not speak out.

They said many things that were favorable to the Chinese communist government. And for the most part despite being an incredibly political league, no real players had said anything about the lack of basic human rights in China, until yesterday when Enes Kanter who plays for the Boston Celtics came out and went hard in the paint against China, calling Chairman Xi an evil dictator, coming out in favor of freedom for people in Tibet and Hong Kong, brave of Enes Kanter, again, who I have invited on this program.

But we are, I believe, on the precipice right now of a major geopolitical, cultural war that could become an incredible flashpoint surrounding an NBA player calling out China. China has already responded by banning Boston Celtics games in their country. And, again, what Enes Kanter said was that Chairman Xi is a brutal dictator, and he called for the freedom of the Tibet and Hong Kong people from being put underneath the thumb of Chairman Xi and the communist dictatorship that is there.

I am curious whether the NBA media will do their job and follow up by asking other players and other team executives their opinion on this. But one of the ultimate hypocrisies in American sports has been the left-wing Blue Checkmark Brigade members, Buck, they cheer on any denigration of America or American values or American institutions by athletes, and they don’t apply the same standards to the rest of the countries around the world. In fact, they kowtow, bend the knee to Chinese leadership. And so I gotta give credit to Enes Kanter here, and I hope other players are going to follow his lead. Because if they do, it’s going to expose and, by the way, this isn’t just the NBA. It’s Disney, it’s Apple, it’s all these major corporations.

CLAY: So this is why it’s different than what you, the normal way this plays out is with human, with women’s rights, for example, we’ll say, why is it the American left only gets upset about the equal pay gap and doesn’t complain more about Afghanistan, they say Afghanistan’s a poor country, doesn’t have influence, we’re never gonna effect any change there. NBA players are known and have real sway in China, right?

BUCK: Yes.

Dear Brutal Dictator XI JINPING and the Chinese Government

Tibet belongs to the Tibetan people!#FreeTibet pic.twitter.com/To4qWMXK56

— Enes Kanter (@EnesKanter) October 20, 2021

The NBA is celebrated in China. So an NBA player speaking out will be noticed by to the degree that they can get around the great firewall of China but will be noticed by Chinese nationals. And of course this is our near peer competitor. So the implications of freedom in China aren’t just for that country but for other countries on its periphery and perhaps around the world as it becomes more powerful and influential.

CLAY: Here’s the cut from Enes Kanter I want you to hear from him himself. Again he’s Turkish. This is what he said.

KANTER: My message for the Chinese government is free Tibet. Tibet belongs to Tibetans. I’m here to add my voice and speak out about what is happening to them under the Chinese government’s brutal rule, Tibetan people’s basic rights and freedoms are non existent. They’re not allowed to study and only their language and culture freely. They’re not allowed to travel freely. They’re not allowed to access information freely. The Tibetan people are not even allowed to worship freely.

CLAY: That is Enes Kanter speaking out directly. We’ll talk more about this as this story grows.

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BUCK: The Biden administration thinks that they’re still gonna get through this major spending package and the Build Back Better agenda and all this other stuff that they’re talking about — including climate, as if we’re supposed to be really focused in on that.

BIDEN: You know, we need more — stronger levees, stronger power grids, more durable, able to withstand ever increasing ferocity and intensity of extreme weather. Any road used to be you have a catastrophe and the road gets washed out, you build it back to what it was before. You can’t build it back to the same standard. You’ve got to build the road back literally higher. Not a joke. Because the weather has already changed. And if we don’t do something before we reach 1.5 degrees Celsius, we’re in trouble.

BUCK: Clay, this whole thing about the proof of climate change all around us from fires and weather and storms and tornadoes, weather is not more severe. This is just not true. We keep going through this. They say it and then the actual data shows they’re making it up as they go along. I feel like the Biden administration’s floundering because what exactly are they selling people on at this point?

CLAY: Well, also Joe is trying to sell people on something he doesn’t really believe in himself, right? There’s no way that Joe Biden is sitting around and feels like climate change is an existential threat to American life. That’s what he says because he’s trying to placate the far left wing of his party now. But that’s gotta be one of the great disappointments I would imagine of Joe Biden’s life. It’s amazing to get elected president, but he managed to do it after his mental faculties were gone and when no one cares what he thinks. So he’s not leading anything. He’s being dragged along like I said Weekend at Bernie’s style, and as a result we are ending up in a situation where he’s not leading his party at all. In fact, he’s just trying to avoid becoming target of his party. I think the big story about Sinema and Manchin is he’s happy to have them be the bad guys instead of people being mad at him.

BUCK: And the way they’re trying to sell this, too, first of all, that weather is so much more severe and that’s why we need it, that’s just not true. It’s like masks for kids in school, it’s like so much better. It’s just not true. But his one is truly mind-blowing. So what I said before but we know it’s a lie, we know it’s a lie but we are supposed to go along with the line that everyone knows is such, here he is still saying the $5 trillion Build Back Better bill, well, what does it cost?

BIDEN: And the cost of the Build Back Better bill in terms of adding to the deficit is zero, zero, zero. Because we’re gonna pay for it all. In addition to the that, half it has is a tax cut. It’s not spending money. It’s a tax cut for working-class people.

BUCK: This is Joe Biden telling the American people that he has invented a magic doughnut —

CLAY: Free lunch.

BUCK: — that you can eat endlessly, that never runs out, that costs you nothing and that will not make you fat. I’m sorry, I’m not buying it.

CLAY: Well, and again, I don’t even think Joe Biden buys it, and the media should be pushing back. I mean the cost of something is not zero. I mean, it’s basically Biden trying to argue that he’s creating a free lunch which, you know, economically does not ever exist. And we’re talking about taking money directly out of people’s pockets. Many of you out there listening to us, including your radio show hosts, and putting it into the federal government.

And, by the way, a great editorial in the Wall Street Journal this morning — I know you read it, too, Buck — saying that what they’re basically trying to do now is they’re going to stuff as much as they can into this bill and claim that it only costs X-number of dollars because they sunset the provisions and don’t count it into the future, when it adds real tens of trillions of dollars in additional costs in the years ahead, they’re trying to sneak this in now with the idea being it will be hard to eliminate in the years ahead, which has been the case with many different entitlements that now are eating up the vast majority of our budget.

BUCK: This is very straightforward, too. If these were such grade ideas they had in this massive bill, they would take each really compelling idea that the American people so strongly agree with, they’d put it forward. They’d say we want to spend, you know, a hundred billion dollars on climate change weatherproofing or whatever, and they’d put it out there and everybody would vote and we would see. Do you believe in this lunacy or not, members of Congress? But no. Instead they try to just push through this unwieldy monstrosity full of whatever and then they just pick one or two things, they lie and say that it costs zero and they’re just hoping to essentially redistribute a whole lot of money to favored constituencies and special interests and, of course, the welfare state and then tell everybody what a great job they’re doing. That’s the plan.

CLAY: That’s the plan for 2022. And we hope it’s gonna fail not only in 2022 but in the election in Virginia in a couple of weeks.

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21 Oct 2021

CLAY: Want to talk about what I see and I think Buck sees and I know many of you see as well as the looming battle between identity politics, cancel culture, and sane society, the insane versus the sane. So I don’t know how many of you have actually watched the Netflix comedy special that Dave Chappelle did. It was not revolutionary in nature. It really wasn’t that wildly out of bounds in terms of comedic material. But it has turned into a cultural flashpoint as transgender people have argued that Netflix should not have distributed the Dave Chappelle special and that they should also not allow it to continue to remain on the platform because they believe that his jokes are potentially going to create violence against them.

And so what you really have is an identity politics victim culture which now has transgender people turning against a black comedian over who has the right to say what in America today. And yesterday while we were on the air, Netflix had a protest featuring some employees, and there was also a counterprotest. So, I want to start with the counterprotest because this is absolutely hysteria. And if you haven’t seen this video, some people showed up to the protest by transgender people against the Dave Chappelle comedy special to simply chant, “We like Dave”. “We like jokes”. Jokes are funny.”

BUCK: You are not allowed to say you like jokes in America today, Clay.

CLAY: “Jokes are funny” was what these people showed up to protest, okay? One of these guys had a “”We like Dave”” sign. The sign was ripped out of his hands, it was destroyed, and then the activists, the transgender activists screamed that he had a weapon because he still had the piece of wood that he had been holding a sign up, only now it had been stripped away of its sign.

And I believe we have a little bit of audio, and trust me on this, this is wildly, hysterically entertaining in some ways. It’s funnier than anything S&L has done probably in decades. But listen to this is a shortcut of the counterprotesters being confronted and them trying to be shouted down for saying, “We like jokes.”

VOICES: We like jokes. We like jokes. We like jokes.

The counter protesters who showed up to the woke Dave Chappelle protest to chant, “We like jokes,” and “Jokes are funny,” need their own Netflix comedy special. pic.twitter.com/sknX5pCjHu

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) October 20, 2021

CLAY: All right. Dave is funny, “We like jokes”,” if you could hear that. Now, this is unacceptable to the transgender activists. Now, I just to want play a couple of cuts from what they were saying at their rally. Let’s start with cut 7 and then we’ll follow it up with cut 8. This is from the Netflix protest.

PROTESTER: Today on the full moon in Aries it is time to make a change. It’s time to release the old and brake in new. What needs to happen if the CEO at Netflix wants to make it right with trans people, give your trans employees a raise right now. Give ’em a raise right now, for their hard work, for their hard labor and for putting their trauma out for the world to see.

BUCK: So this is just a shakedown. That’s what this turns into, right? This is if you don’t do what we say, we are mobilizing the woke mob so that some people get a payoff, Clay. That’s actually what this is about which is fascinating because they also use the rhetoric of this creates violence against us. So if you’re so worried about the violence that will be created by Dave Chappelle’s jokes, shouldn’t that be the thing that is addressed in someway, no. It’s okay, fine. Maybe you’re creating violence against us, which, by the way, is an outrageous intellectually indefensible lie and an absurd, but beyond that, okay, maybe we’ll look the other way, pay us off, give us money, give us special privileges.

CLAY: Can you imagine Netflix HR like walking around the office, knocking on the door, hey, sorry to ask, are you gender nonbinary? Which pronouns do you like? We’re trying to find who gets the rise for the transgender special that you didn’t like. But to your point, Buck, the other cut here is someone alleging that Dave Chappelle’s jokes puts their lives in danger. Listen to this.

PROTESTER: I’m here to let Ted know that if he won’t have stand up for their rights, we will. And that’s the reason why we’re here today. We are here today not because we don’t know how to take a joke. We’re here because we’re concerned that the jokes are taking lives, and that’s not a laughing matter.

CLAY: It’s not the jokes are taking lives.

BUCK: It’s not that we can’t wait a joke. It’s that your jokes are literally killing people. This is what they say, which is completely insane, but it also goes to show you that they’ll say whatever, they’ll use any tactic of exaggeration and emotional manipulation to get what they want out of this exchange, which, as we know, is cash, it’s power, it’s influence in Netflix. Which, let’s all remember this, folks, Netflix as a company — you know, we often talk about talk about Big Tech and — Netflix is more powerful today than any movie studio in America, is more influential in the culture than any cable channel you can think of, Netflix has massive, massive cultural implications all across the country.

And, oh, I don’t subscribe to Netflix. Okay, fine. But if you look at their subscription numbers and some of the growth rates that they’ve had in recent years, you know, if you’re 25 years old, are you watching, you know, are you watching some cable channel, I don’t know, like, you know, Classic Movie Channel or something? No. You’re watching Netflix. You’re watching Hulu. And so not only is the payoff demand here I think, Clay, transparent for what it is, but beyond that they just want to make sure that these companies that influence the culture and therefore politics so much are absolutely terrified of being insufficiently woke. This is about power in these institutions.

CLAY: It’s also about how much power transgender people have right now. You’re claiming we’re a minority that’s being discriminated against, yet don’t overlook what an outlandish power grab they are referencing that they have. They are demanding that somebody else not be able to make a joke at their expense and that no one and, by the way, it’s not even really at their expense. It’s just pointing out what I think many of you agree out there which is that it’s crazy to have transgender athletes competing against biological women, right? I mean, we’re just talking about basic human difference in biology and saying it’s not crazy to say, hey, men don’t have babies, like these are not outlandish comments to make.

BUCK: Whoa. Whoa. We might have to bleep that one, Clay Travis. Men don’t have babies? I don’t know what’s gonna happen to you now, but the protesters are gonna find you.

CLAY: Women get pregnant? Like, these are not outlandish things to say, right? These are what’s considered to be hateful language.

BUCK: You know, when you look at, you look at what happens in, you know, I’ve said that a true tyranny is capricious, right? It’s not that everyone —

CLAY: Totally arbitrary, yes.

BUCK: — harsh rules, that it’s the rules apply differently depending on who’s in power and what they want. What you also find is that if you really want absolute control of a society, it’s not that you have to get people to agree to lies. It’s that you have to get people to agree to what they know and you know are lies but they do it anyway. Everyone knows that everyone’s lying. I mean, this goes back to the great Russian dissidents during a the Soviet era like Solzhenitsyn and others.

Everyone knew that what the Soviet Union was saying on a regular basis about everything was a lie, including the people saying it, but the point was they had the brute force and power to make you bend the knee and go along. That’s why saying men can get pregnant is so problematic in America. That’s why saying that, you know, you have to use “they” for individuals is problematic, because it is forcing you to be complicit in lies, and we should live not by lies.

CLAY: Amen. And what we are seeing is, and I hope this is what we’re seeing, and I think we’re seeing it more and more, is, I want all of you to think about, I encourage you to go watch the videos of the protests that I shared at my Twitter feed @ClayTravis, and we played some cuts for you. But I want you to think about this. The people who are attacking the people who showed up at the protest to chant “We like jokes” think they’re the good people. Want you to think about that everyone wants to talk about how history’s going to view things how is history gonna view the people who were tearing down signs that said “We like Dave” and “We like jokes,” are they gonna look like the reasonable people in 20, 30, 40, 50 years, or are they gonna look like the tyrants that they are? I think we know.

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21 Oct 2021

BUCK: On Capitol Hill right now where you have Attorney General Merrick Garland, you know, the guy whose office put out that “nice free speech you have, parents concerned about their kids in school. Be a shame if something happened to it.” You know, really — really unsettling action from the chief law enforcement officer of the United States federal government. Representative Jim Jordan put this in a half nelson today. Here he is talking about the politicization of the DOJ on Capitol Hill.

JORDAN: The chairman just said the Trump DOJ was political and went after their opponents. Are you kidding me? Three weeks ago the national school board association writes President Biden asking him to involve the FBI in local school board matters. Five days later, the attorney general of the United States does just that. Does exactly what a political organization asked to be done, five days.

We’ve said — Republicans on this committee have sent the attorney general 13 letters in the last six months takes weeks and months to get a response eight of the letters we got nothing they just gave us the finger said we’re not gonna get back to you and all of our letters were actually send to the attorney general. Here’s a letter sent to someone else asking for a specific thing to be done and in five days the attorney general does it.

Here’s what the October 4th memo said. Quote I’m directing the FBI to convene meetings with local leaders. These meetings will open dedicated lines of communication for threat reporting. Dedicated lines of communication for threat reporting. A snitch line on parents started five days after a left wing political organization asks for it. If that’s not political, I don’t know what is.

CLAY: Well said by Jim Jordan who, by the way, is going to be on with us, I believe, next week. And it’s so well said, Buck, because when you actually deconstruct what’s going on here, it is set, first of all, this is what I said when the story came out. If somebody commits a crime locally, it should be prosecuted, right? That’s the job of local prosecutors. That’s the job of local police officers —

BUCK: We’re not savage communists. We don’t cheer on the burning down of police stations on the attacking of public officials or whatever. We don’t do that stuff.

Attorney General Garland’s only “evidence” that parents are “threatening” school board members?

The radically liberal National School Board Association told him so.

Seriously?!

pic.twitter.com/qSml6wt06s

— Rep. Jim Jordan (@Jim_Jordan) October 21, 2021

CLAY: But the idea that you would involve the federal government in investigations into what parents do or say at school boards and that would label them as domestic terrorists strikes at the very fabric of American democracy, which is the essence of individuals being able to share their opinions on political matters and on important issues such as decisions that are being made to educate their children in local public schools. Like, this is the very heart of democracy.

BUCK: And the fact that they would go out there with this memo from the attorney general’s office — this wasn’t — you know, they got away with the IRS targeting for a while back in 2011, 2012 because said, oh, it was some low-level people in, like, the Cincinnati or the Cleveland office of the IRS. This is the absolute top of the DOJ food chain, so to speak, putting out a letter that’s clearly meant to say the Eye of Sauron is focused in on these parents which is going to have real implications, and that was why they did it, and it’s because they feel so comfortable weaponizing the bureaucracies for their own ends.

CLAY: No doubt and credit to Jim Jordan for calling it out and this is — and, by the way, we mentioned this earlier in the first hour, but the attorney general, Merrick Garland, despite the fact saying that he was going to investigate local school boards, he said he didn’t know anything about the Loudoun County issues and the potential sexual assault that were going on there and everything that spiraled out of that story. Disgraceful.

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