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Inflation: McDonald’s Raises Prices 6%

28 Oct 2021

CLAY: Do you know that McDonald’s has had to raise their menu prices by 6%? Let me repeat that, ’cause it’s a pretty significant detail. Because of inflationary issues both in paychecks and also in terms of product supply, McDonald’s — which, trust me, doesn’t want to raise their prices because that comes directly out of your pocketbooks. McDonald’s has increased their price by 6%.

That’s more than the average wage of an American household member is increasing. That means that Joe Biden’s inflationary pressures are a default tax on all Americans, and it’s as if no one else wants to talk about it. That McDonald’s price increase is a metaphor of the larger context that is occurring all over this country, where all of us are paying more for goods and services — and that’s, by the way, if we can find the goods on the shelves that we want to purchase.

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DeSantis Announces Lawsuit Against Federal Vaccine Mandate

28 Oct 2021

CLAY: The battle over covid really has ended up being red state governors (thank the Lord) who have been standing up against the overreach of the Biden administration. And what that’s gonna end up looking like are the lawsuits that are being filed over who gets to make determinations for state residents. Are we going to allow state governors to allow individuals to make their own choices about whether or not they are going to be vaccinated, or are we going to allow the federal government to swoop in and say, “Unless you are vaccinated, you are not able to actually maintain your job”?

So we’ve got lawsuits being filed in Florida today by Ron DeSantis against the federal vaccine mandate. These involve, among other things, federal employees who might be working at NASA facilities in the state of Florida. This is going to take a long time to play out. We’ve got lawsuits also in the state of Texas over the battle that is being fought there whether — and again, this is significant, but I want to make sure everybody understands it.

The governors of Florida and Texas are not telling their citizens, “You can’t get vaccinated.” They are in no way forbidding any citizen from making the choice to vaccinate themselves or their children or their family. What they are saying is, “You can’t be fired for refusing to do so,” and this is particularly important as we move closer and closer to, I think, what is going to be a mandate for children to be vaccinated despite the fact that children have almost no risk whatsoever from covid.

If you think the mask battle was significant, it’s nothing compared to what we’re gonna have over the covid vaccine mandate for children. But I appreciate and applaud governors like Ron DeSantis of Florida for standing up in favor of your constitutional right to make a choice about whether or not you are going to be vaccinated.

Earlier this morning, Ron DeSantis announced his federal lawsuit against the federal government mandates and also discussed in a little bit more detail the path from “15 days to stop the spread” to “you better get this vaccine or you’re gonna lose your job.”

DESANTIS: Sometimes, you gotta just — in the moment — look back and think, “Okay, we’ve gone from ’15 days to slow the spread’ to ‘three jabs to keep your job’ somehow.” Are you kidding me? It does violate the Constitution. It’s gonna hurt the economy. But also, this is not the end of it, okay? I think we know.

They are always saying, “Oh, we just need to do this,” and then they go on to the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. And so, it’s important for us to take a stand, not only for what’s at stake here with the folks that could be affected, but also knowing that if you don’t give resistance to this, you’re gonna continue to see other things, and they’re gonna absolutely do more.

CLAY: It’s important. It’s an important detail, because anyone out there who has watched the slow, continued growth of federal government mandates as it pertains to the vaccine… Just think back if in March of 2020, you had been told that by the time you’re getting close to Halloween — and, by the way, I hope all of you are gonna have a phenomenal Halloween.

My wife throws a monster Halloween party every year, and we have got the backyard getting tented right now. We have got an awesome party that we are going to throw. We threw it last year, too. We had this conversation because last year covid was going on, it was getting close to the election, and my wife says, “Hey, do you think we should have the party?” I said, “Yeah! Let everybody make a choice about whether or not they want to come to a party.

“If they don’t want to come, if they don’t feel comfortable, that’s their right. But I know there are massive numbers of people out there that are desperate for normalcy,” and certainly, this fall feels pretty normal for most people, I think. But if you are out there right now and I had told you back in March of 2020, “By almost November of next year, you are still going to be dealing with covid and there are going to be mandates for a covid vaccine.

“Despite the fact that many of you will have already had it! Despite the fact that the data will clearly reflect that if you’re in your twenties, your thirties, or your forties, by and large, you have minimal — minimal, highly minimal — risk from covid,” that you would be potentially going to lose your job, that we would be firing police officers, that we would be firing all different sorts of people with important jobs — firemen, health care workers.

That all of these people would be losing their jobs over their decision as it pertains to the covid virus, despite that many of them would have had it! And, by the way, did you see the recent reports from Moderna and Pfizer saying, “Hey, this is going to be a yearly shot now”? I don’t even think we should call it the covid vaccine. We should call it the covid shot. It’s effectively going to be become like the flu shot.

You know what’s interesting about the flu shot is, to my knowledge, there’s almost no jobs out there that have ever mandated — as a condition of employment — that you have to get the flu shot or you’re gonna get fired. Certainly, that hasn’t been a case for any school district out there that I can remember where your kids were not able to go to school unless they got the flu shot.

Now, this is significant because the seasonal flu is more deadly to your average young kid than covid is — and look, there’s a different between the risk to a kindergartener and the risk to an 80-year-old. I think that is wildly important. But we need to start paying attention and listening to what so many people out there in the New York Fire Department, the EMS, and the New York Police Department are saying about these vaccine mandates.

Listen to this rally, which you’re probably not going to hear almost anywhere else in media. Listen to this outspoken opposition to the covid vaccine mandate.

PROTESTER: Today, we stand united on one cause — firefighters, fire officers, EMS, fire dispatchers, others, affinity groups of FDNY, sanitation, DSNY, NYDT, my brothers and sisters! We want common cause to stand for freedom to choose!

CROWD: (cheering) (air horn)

PROTESTER: The ability to choose is our God-given right, our free will, the right to choose for ourselves, our families, our loved ones. This is our bodies, not yours!

CROWD: (cheering and applause)

PROTESTER: We work tirelessly long hours without fear of falling, took care of the citizens of this City of New York. We answer countless, countless calls to keep this city safe. We are citizens of the United States of America, New Yorkers!

CROWD: (cheering) (air horn)

CLAY: Wow. We need to get her on the show ’cause I know a lot of you are riled up just hearing that speech on behalf of so many different people in New York City who are potentially going to lose their jobs over the mask mandate.

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Mollie Hemingway on Her New Book: Rigged

28 Oct 2021

CLAY: We are joined now by Mollie Hemingway, who has got a fabulous book that is coming out, and we’re gonna talk about that, regarding what exactly went on in the 2020 election and beyond. Buck Sexton, I should mention, Mollie — she comes in with us right now. Buck is out sick. I know you know Buck well, Mollie. But I want to start with this.

Your book on Brett Kavanaugh was incredible. The behind the scenes maneuvering associated with how Brett Kavanaugh ended up on the Supreme Court, the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings. It was absolutely riveting. I don’t think I’ve ever spoken to you before, but I wanted you to hear that directly from me. It was so incredibly well done. How much time and research and energy and effort did you put into telling that story in such a compelling fashion as you did?

HEMINGWAY: Well, thank you, first of all. I appreciate that. And I was glad to research and report on both books. For the first book, my coauthor, Carrie Severino, and I interviewed more than a hundred people who were involved in the confirmation of Kavanaugh. You know, that included everyone at the White House, in the Senate, the outside groups.

And it was just fascinating to get their stories and inside details and be able to record for posterity what actually happened ’cause we knew that the media would do what they did with Clarence Thomas which is tell false stories then just keep telling and telling and telling them for decades and then the real history gets lost.

So I took that same approach with Rigged, which tells what happened during the 2020 election, tons of interviews from people on the Trump campaign and RNC — but at the state and the local level, the outside groups — to really get a handle on just what happened in this craziest election of our lifetimes.

CLAY: Okay. So I haven’t read Rigged yet, but I’m encourage everybody out there just based on your last book to read this one, and I will read it as well. Rigged: How the Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats Seized Our Elections. Let’s talk about some of the things that you uncovered during the course of reporting on this book, and I want to start with one that I know all of our listeners are focused on because it was such an egregious example of this overreach.

That was the New York Post basically getting canceled by Twitter and other Big Tech platforms when they came out with what has now basically been confirmed to have been an accurate story about Hunter Biden’s laptop and everything associated with the revelations on that laptop. In the years ahead, will this come to seem even more egregious in your mind than it does now, or is this something that people are gonna pretend on the left just never happened as a result of this now having been proven true and that their censorship was — in many ways — a direct refutation of the truth?

HEMINGWAY: It was shocking and horrifying and one of the worst things I’ve ever seen, more Stalinist than American to watch as all of these powerful entities just decided they were gonna memory hole not just an important story, but one of the more important stories of the campaign. We know the Biden family has a business, and that’s where foreign oligarchs and other powerful people give money to members of the Biden family, and then it’s completely unknown what they get in return.

You know, and because it’s unknown, it’s presumably related to policy and taxpayer dollars. And so, there was no question that this was an important story for journalists to cover. They know covered it, and then when the New York Post did cover it, they did their best to lie about it, claim it was “Russian misinformation,” to deplatform New York Post and anybody who shared the story. It was horrible.

But it was just one of many ways that our corrupt media have harmed the country and harmed civil discourse, harmed the integrity of our elections, because you look at what our country was founded object and it’s freedom of information and the right to pursue the truth. And this is encoded in the First Amendment — freedom of religion, speech, press, all these things — and the media and Big Tech went to war against these founding ideas that predate our actual country. And it was horrifying to go through.

CLAY: If you compare the false allegations of Russia collusion with what we 100% know was Big Tech collusion, isn’t it unbelievable that so many people who spread the big lie of Russia collusion were directly complicit in a conspiracy of Big Tech companies to alter the outcome of the 2020 election after they falsely argued that 2016 had been the collusive-driven election that was outcome-pursuit driven in that way? It’s extraordinary irony.

HEMINGWAY: Yes, Clay, isn’t that very interesting that from 2016 through the next election, it wasn’t like a fringe theory that these conspiracy theorists held to and promulgated? It was massive. It was everybody in the media, everybody in the Democratic Party. They claimed that Donald Trump stole the 2016 election ’cause he was a secret agent of Russia. It was absurd, it was evil, and they did it every day multiple times a day.

And then 2020 happens, we have all these changes to our election laws, we have mail-in ballots flooding the system, we have Mark Zuckerberg engaged in a private takeover of our government election offices, we have the media and tech issues that we talked about. And then all of a sudden these very same people who spread the lie that Donald Trump stole the 2016 election — and spread it maliciously and continuously for years.

All of a sudden, they’re like (laughing), “You can’t talk about any problems with the 2020 election,” and when it comes to down to it, the only thing they can like hang their hat on is that Russia meddled in our elections for like a hundred years — except for 2018 and 2020, apparently. They bought like a $100,000 in Facebook ads, some of which benefited Hillary Clinton, some of which benefited Donald Trump.

Well, compare that with what tech did in 2020. They spent four years gaming algorithms, four years deplatforming corrective conservative voices, four years censoring important stories, four years telling their left-leaning social media users to go register to vote and to go vote but not their right-wing users. Talk about meddling, and on a scale so much beyond a piddly whatever Russia did in 2016.

CLAY: It’s well said, and I think you and I understand this a lot better than your average person would, because we write online — and you mentioned a $100,000 in Facebook ads. That might sound like a lot of money to a regular person, because $100,000 is a lot of money to a regular person. To someone who is buying Facebook ads, $100,000, Mollie, is nothing. I mean, that is such a tiny pinprick of money.

The idea that you could swing a presidential election for $100,000 when we’re spending hundreds of millions of dollars a year if not billions of dollars a year on presidential elections is one of the dumbest… Leave aside the dishonesty of it. It’s one of the dumbest arguments that I’ve ever seen made and accepted as a reality by anyone with a functional brain.

HEMINGWAY: And yet, again, it was not fringe.

CLAY: Yes.

HEMINGWAY: It wasn’t on the outer edges of the internet that this was being promulgated. It was every day in the Washington Post, New York Times, you know, CNN, MSNBC, all the major media. And it was too stupid to believe they actually thought that what they were saying was real but caused real damage.

And like you point out, what tech companies themselves did after 2016, they felt responsible for Donald Trump winning because the media had manipulated Trump’s message so that people wouldn’t vote for him. So, he just went with social media to speak directly to the people and the people found that very compelling. So, they decided, “Well, we can’t let him speak directly to the people! We have to control this,” and they did.

They did. They were kind of public about it, but they did all of this game playing with search engines, with the suppression of news stories. If you were a left-wing newspaper like the Washington Post, New York Times — or, you know, even outright like acknowledged leftist media — those were elevated on Facebook and other social media platforms.

If you didn’t hew to corporate media’s party line — if you, for instance, and said that the Russia collusion hoax was a lie (which is true) — they would decrease your reach on social media. Think about the profound complications of how that affected people’s understanding of reality and how they might vote in subsequent elections.

CLAY: There’s no doubt. We’re talking to Mollie Hemingway. She’s senior at The Federalist author of the new book which I would encourage all of you to read: Rigged. Of the Big Tech companies, if you were doing a power ranking of how impactful they were in helping to rig the 2020 election for Joe Biden…

How would you assess Twitter, Facebook, Google, YouTube, all of these different Big Tech companies and essentially the contractions that they were making in favor of Joe Biden? Did any one or two companies stagger you more than others in terms of the decisions they were making? How would you rank them?

HEMINGWAY: Well, of course, they’re all kind of related, sometimes officially, and sometimes they coordinate to deplatform voices together. But I would say the role that Google plays in controlling access to information. They’re more policy than any country on earth. They can deplatform people at will in a way that… They can take sites off line, they can take voices off line, and then they do it a lot with ways that people don’t understand.

So if you’re putting something into a search engine, I think many Americans have this naive idea that what we’re getting back is somehow balanced or impartial. That just simply is not true. They have shown for years that conservative or non-leftist voices are marginalized in these search engines in a way that looks like a psychological experiment on the American people — and, of course, in other countries as well.

CLAY: Is it gonna get better or worse in your mind as we move into 2022 and 2024? Is there any shame? Is there any legal peril that the Googles, the Facebooks, the Twitters of the world now are facing based on regulatory investigations, or do you think they’ve been emboldened now given how much and how impactful they were that 2022 and 2024 could be worse? Where do we go from here?

HEMINGWAY: I think we saw what happened after 2020, and this is partly why the media don’t want people to talk about the election is because they want to continue the operation. Certain things that were done, like Mark Zuckerberg’s private takeover of government election offices, where he spent about as much money as the federal government did to run the election and to embed left-wing activists into it.

Some states have made that illegal. Some states haven’t. So it can either continue or not continue, depending on what the state law is. But in general, I think tech companies do feel emboldened. They might be a little surprised that they’re not receiving more gratitude from the Democrat Party. But be that as it may, I think they feel emboldened.

And you’re seeing Democrats trying to ensconce into permanent law some of the changes that they wrought in 2020 to create more inconsistency and chaos in our election process. That’s kind of a feature for them, even if it’s a bug for most people to look at what happened after 2020 and be like:

“I don’t know if we should have to wait weeks to find out how many people voted, much less who they voted for.” But you’ll see these battles continuing to matter ’cause this wasn’t just about stopping Donald Trump. This is about power of going forward for whole parties and for whole movements.

CLAY: Last question for you. We have President Trump on the show tomorrow in the final hour of the program scheduled to be on with us. I believe you talked with him for five hours or more as a part of your book, Rigged. What did you learn from President Trump, and — based on those conversations — do you think he is inclined to run again in 2024, in your mind?

HEMINGWAY: Yeah, when I interviewed him three times for the book, and the first interview I wasn’t quite sure if he wanted to run again. I almost got the feeling that he didn’t want to have to do it. So, I think three things are arguing in favor of him running. One, I think he’s disappointed that the Republican Party has kind of returned to form, that feckless weakness that frustrated voters so much.

Two, I don’t think he’s getting credit for what he did. He actually achieved quite a bit policy-wise, and I think that he needs to have his legacy affirmed for him not to want to run again. And then, finally, I think the establishment is freaking out so much about him running that it’s signaling to him that he might need to do it again. So, I don’t know if he will or won’t. But it is interesting to see how poorly the establishment responded to his initial run and how poorly they’re responding to this political situation right now.

CLAY: Mollie Hemingway. She is the senior editor at The Federalist. Fantastic author. Go read Rigged — I’m looking forward to reading it myself — all about the 2020 presidential election and the power of Big Tech to rig the outcome of this election. Mollie, keep up the good work. Thank you for your time.

HEMINGWAY: Thank you so much for Clay. Bye.

CLAY: That is Mollie Hemingway.

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Floyd Mayweather in Kyrie Irving’s Corner on Mandates

28 Oct 2021

CLAY: I talked about some of the politics of vaccine mandates and how it has created some strange bedfellows. One of the most outspoken groups that has had a lot of different celebrities standing up and saying, “Wait a minute. I don’t really agree with the concept of the government mandating a covid vaccine.” A lot of athletes, a lot of comedians, and a lot of entertainers in general have been willing to speak out against the prevailing hegemony that exists on the left-wing, woke culture in particular.

I saw this yesterday. Floyd Mayweather, who is maybe the most successful boxer of his generation, posted a video supporting Kyrie Irving. Kyrie Irving is an NBA player who has refused to get vaccinated. Listen to what Floyd Mayweather said, and then I want to share with you some of the attacks that are occurring based on comments like these.

MAYWEATHER: America is land of the free: Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and — supposedly — freedom to choose. Never be controlled by money. I respect you for having some integrity and being your own man. A free mind makes his own choices, and a slave mind follows the crowd. Stand for something or fall for anything.

One man can lead a revolution to stand up and fight for what’s right. One choice, one word, one action can change the world. It’s crazy how people hate you for being a leader. I hope your actions encourage many others to stand up and say, “Enough is enough.” Respect to you, Kyrie, and power to the people.

CLAY: Okay. So that’s Floyd Mayweather. Here’s what he also said: “Choice is defined as an act of selecting or making a decision when faced with two or more possibilities. America gave us the choice to take the vaccine or not take the vaccine. As time moves on, that choice is gradually being stripped from us.”

And what’s interesting is the number of people who claim that they are all for free expression and outspoken political opinions, who — as soon as someone says anything other than embracing the prevailing woke orthodox in the world of athletics or entertainment — turn it into an opportunity to call them sellouts or racists or Uncle Toms. Deadspin, which is a website mostly bereft of all functional intelligence…

It used to be a fun, zany, irreverent place for sports fans to go hang out. They had an article that they published in the last day or so, and the headline is: “Kyrie Irving and Dave Chappelle are being used as black pawns on a white chessboard.”  Now, that doesn’t really make sense ’cause a “white chessboard”? There’s black and white pieces, and there’s black and white squares on the chessboard, too.

What’s really kind of fascinating is look at how quickly Kyrie Irving, Dave Chappelle — you just heard from Floyd Mayweather — these are prominent black athletes and celebrities who are speaking out against in the case of Dave Chappelle the idea of protected treatment for people who are transgender. In the case of Kyrie Irving, it’s against the New York City vaccine mandates, which he is refusing to comply with and thereby makes him ineligible to play.

In the case of Floyd Mayweather, he’s singing the praises of Kyrie Irving for being willing to make those choices. But don’t mistake what’s going on here. The same people who have lionized Colin Kaepernick for years for taking a knee are now denigrating to the high heavens athletes who don’t have the same opinion as them when it comes to the covid vaccine. And, by the way, these athletes aren’t saying, “Don’t take the vaccine if you decide it’s the right choice for you.”

They’re just saying mandates are wrong, and I know there’s this desire to label everybody out there who doesn’t believe in mandates as anti-vax, right? That’s the new insult that everybody gets tossed on them. I don’t believe in getting my young kids vaccinated for covid, because covid is not a risk to them. That doesn’t make me anti-vax. I’m certainly in favor of measles, mumps, rubella.

As many of you out there listening right now, my kids are vaccinated. I’m opposed to unnecessary mandatory vaccines, but I’m not opposed to you — if you desire and believe that it makes the most sense for your health — being able to go make that choice yourself. There is a fundamental — and, by the way, that goes for masks. That goes for social distance. All these different covid-related mandates really, to me, come down to choice and risk analysis within the context of your own age.

A 4-year-old and an 84-year-old do not have the same risk for covid. The 84-year-old, I think, probably should get the covid vaccine. The 4-year-old should not. That’s simply risk analysis. It’s not being anti-vax. It’s being intelligent enough to understand that a one-size-fits-all policy for 330 million people in the United States doesn’t make sense.

It also doesn’t consider all of you out there like me who’ve already had covid and have natural immunity now as a result of having had covid. My kids? It doesn’t make sense for them to get vaccinated based on the data. They’re under far more risk from far less dangerous things.

They’re way more likely to die in a traffic accident or get murdered or die of the seasonal flu. Being a parent is about teaching your kids how to deal with risk. It’s one of the most important things we teach our kids — and if you are teaching them that they are in danger from covid, frankly, you’re not listening to the data at all.

 

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Florida Surgeon General Ladapo Speaks Truth to Power

28 Oct 2021

CLAY: I want you to be able to hear somebody who is actually speaking truth to power and sharing facts, which is an important thing to do, particularly as kids — the argument, at least, is out there that kids — should be getting the covid vaccine, which I think is absolutely crazy. Well, Florida’s surgeon general is Dr. Joseph Ladapo.

He was on Tucker last night. And, by the way, we’re going to have Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida — we’re scheduled to have him — on the show next week on Tuesday. And we probably need to, at some point, in the near future, get Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo on as well. He was on Tucker last night, and he shared the fact that data just flat-out doesn’t support masks.

LADAPO: A really good example is this obsession with masking kids in school, and when you look at the evidence for mask mandates in schools it’s actually… It’s very weak. You know, the highest quality evidence we have, in fact, for masks basically shows really no evidence of a health benefit — as in an improvement in a child’s health outcome — by implementing these mask mandates.

And there’s not even any solid evidence for cloth masks. So, you know, where benefit has been shown, it’s primarily been with surgical masks. But, you know, Americans have unfortunately been just slammed constantly with this message that you must mask these children. But, you know, we haven’t asked enough about the high-quality data. It doesn’t support it, and we don’t do it in Florida.

CLAY: So, I think that is fabulously well said. Think about how much different our country would look right now if you had Dr. Ladapo there, the surgeon general of the state of Florida, actually making these arguments in public instead of Dr. Fauci — who is consistently showing up like the bogeyman to try to terrify parents and make them think that their kids are under a severe danger from the covid when the data doesn’t reflect that that’s remotely true.

So, why is this significant? Well, it’s significant because DeSantis and other governors — thank God for federalism — are fighting back against the proposed federal vaccine mask mandate. Now, it’s worth noting that Joe Biden announced his federal vaccine mandate on September 9th, I believe it was. He still has not officially released the regulations drawn up by OSHA that would require that federal mandate to be in place.

As a result, we’re not sure exactly how many religious or health exemptions might be granted and how aggressively this policy is going to be implemented. But what we are sure of is, there are gonna be a lot of people, many of you out there listening right now, that are forced to make a decision — you may well have had covid like I have — about whether or not to follow a mandate issued by your company.

Especially if your company employs over a hundred people, which means that it would be part of this federal vaccine mandate. Are you going to go get the covid vaccine or are you going to make a decision to potentially quit your job, to give up your job? And that’s why I think what Ron DeSantis has crystallized so well is, you think back to March of 2020. What we were all told was something pretty straightforward, transparent, and relatively easy to understand.

Dr. Fauci walked ought in the White House and sold us on the idea of “15 days to stop the spread,” and if you remember, that was all about lessening the overall peak of infection to try to avoid overloading hospitals. Now, by and large, hospitals across this country have not been overloaded. They certainly have been strained at different points of time.

But we haven’t seen what was initially feared, which was, “Oh, my goodness! There are going to be tens of thousands of people that need medical treatment and there will be no way for the hospitals to actually handle all of those people.” We just haven’t seen it. So we had 15 days to stop the spread, and now we have advanced all the way to, “If you don’t get the covid vaccine,” and, by the way, soon if you don’t get the covid vaccine booster, “you’re gonna lose your job.”

And that is an unbelievable and excessive overreach of the federal government. This is me putting my lawyer hat on. I believe that’s unconstitutional. I don’t think that the federal government, given where we are with covid, should have the power — or has the power — under our Constitution to mandate vaccines as expansively as Joe Biden has laid out his vaccine mandate. I suspect that is one reason why the vaccine mandate hasn’t come out yet.

In fact, there are a lot of businesses out there that are reportedly arguing with the Biden administration right now, “Please don’t issue this vaccine mandate before the holidays because if you do, it’s going to be virtually impossible for many different levels of our economy to function. We already have major supply chain disruptions.”

What’s gonna happen if truck drivers, for instance, suddenly decide not to get the covid vaccine and you don’t have the ability to utilize their big rigs to move products across the country when you’ve already got a major supply chain shortage that is underway? What’s going to happen if a lot of people who stock the shelves inside of major retail establishments decide not to get covid vaccine and therefore are not employed?

So right now, you have Big Business begging the Biden administration, “At least wait ’til after the holidays,” and that’s why I floated the idea that the reason Biden administration haven’t released their federal vaccine mandate, is because I think they know that it’s unconstitutional, and they are hoping that the threat will lead to more people getting the covid vaccine.

And then after the first of the year, if we don’t have a major surge in covid cases — and remember, they’re going down for the most part across the country right now — then they can argue, “Hey, we don’t have to implement this federal vaccine mandate anymore because so many people got the vaccines; the vaccines work so well. Look! Joe Biden solved all of the issues surrounding covid!” That’s what I think the Biden administration would like to argue.

That, however, will be in the future.

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Governor Kemp Talks Election Law, Braves in World Series

27 Oct 2021

BUCK: We are very pleased to be joined right now by Governor Brian Kemp of the great state of Georgia. Governor, thanks for making some time for us today.

GOV. KEMP: Hi, guys.

BUCK: So, sir, first off, I just want to know, there are a lot of people when they think about Georgia these days, it was right at the center of a lot of obviously election questions and people calling for recounts and the Senate races, the presidential race.

For anybody who has concerns about election integrity right now in the state of Georgia, especially as we’re going into this midterm election year soon, what should they know? What can you tell ’em that will make them confident — or are you confident, may be a better way to ask the question — that elections in the state of Georgia are secure?

GOV. KEMP: Well, I believe it’s easy to vote and hard to cheat here in the state of Georgia. That’s always what I’ve worked toward in nine years as secretary of state and certainly as governor. I think our Elections Integrity Act last year addressed a lot of the mechanical issues that we saw in the 2020 election.

Working with county elections officials and a lot of other people to implement that policy or that new law has really helped the confidence. We want all voters, doesn’t matter what side of the aisle you’re on, to have confidence in the elections. And we have elections going on right now. Nobody’s complaining about anybody being disenfranchised or suppressed or anything else.

Which we knew they would not be, but I do think people have much more confidence now ’cause of doing very common sense things like tying the voter ID requirement to absentee ballots by mail, securing drop boxes and other things. But we’ve also given the ability for people to vote further on the weekends here in Georgia even on Sunday.

BUCK: And so for anybody who is hearing the Democrat lines on this, I mean, Joe Biden — the sitting president, Governor — has gone so far as to refer to some of these election integrity measures and as you said even in some cases Georgia has expanded voting, made it easier to vote, put in place provisions so that there’s greater convenience. What’s your response to President Biden saying it’s “Jim Crow 2.0”?

GOV. KEMP: (chuckles) Well, he’s the lying to people. He obviously didn’t know what was in the bill when whoever it was got him to come out and say that. It’s almost as though they used him as a political pawn. He’s using his own Justice Department by suing us over the Elections Integrity Act right now as a political tool when his own state of Delaware is much more restrictive than we are here in the state of Georgia.

It’s really the height of hypocrisy. It’s the height of federal overreach. And quite honestly guys, the Democrats have overplayed their hand on this, just like Major League Baseball did. They made a political decision to move the All-Star Game because they were getting pressure. They folded to that pressure — and unlike myself, I have not folded to the pressure from them or anyone else.

In fact, we have fought back even harder to make sure people know what the truth is in Georgia, and it is that we want to have secure locations, but we also want them to be accessible too. But you have to understand there’s a lot of people that are lining their pockets by continuing to spread this falsehood that’s out there.

CLAY: Governor, I’m down right now in Houston. I watched the Braves win last night to take a 1-0 World Series lead. I’m sure you were watching that as well. How excited are you for the Braves to be back in Atlanta on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, as you just mentioned, in the same year that Rob Manfred said you can’t host the All-Star Game and yanked it to put it to Colorado? What’s the vibe and the excitement level going to do in Truist Park on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and how much of karmic justice is the Braves making the World Series and being able to host games there?


GOV. KEMP: Well, it’s poetic justice for sure, and I think looking back to the All-Star Game decision to moving it to Colorado, they, too, in many ways are more restrictive than Georgia is when it comes to access and to citizens having the opportunity to go vote. That’s a whole ‘nother story. But look, this was a great National League championship series win by the Braves.

It’s a great win by the players, organization, certainly the fans. But it is also a great win for small business owners, many who are minority based in the city of Atlanta and then up and around Truist Park. It’s gonna be a great economic boon for us. It’s gratifying ’cause those people are deserving. They got screwed with the All-Star Game getting moved. People are still furious about that.

But I think the focus is on rallying around the team and winning a world championship. It’s gonna be an awesome environment. It has been all year at the stadium. We’ve been open 100% capacity, fans in the Battery during the game, watching it on TV when they couldn’t get in the stadium. It’s just gonna be an electric atmosphere here, and I keep telling people we need to close out the year with a Braves world championship and then open the year with the Bulldogs national championship.

CLAY: That would certainly be wildly popular. We’re talking to Governor Brian Kemp from Georgia. Governor, when you hear…? I want to circle back around on this question surrounding election integrity. The Democrats have been pounding the idea of election integrity. But their patron saint right now is Stacey Abrams, who you beat by 50,000 votes, if I’m not mistaken, in 2018.

She has never conceded to you. We got a hot election right now going on in Virginia, and Terry McAuliffe came out again and said basically you didn’t win your election. How is it that Democrats can say, “Republicans don’t honor elections,” but they continue to spread the fiction, the lie that you didn’t win in 2018. And am I correct that Stacey Abrams has never conceded, yet she’s become a hero of the left?

GOV. KEMP: Yeah. Well, that’s what they do. Look, this is, again, the state of hypocrisy that they’re living in, and they don’t care about the truth. They just care about the message that’s out there. That’s what you’re seeing in Virginia right now. They’re trying to rally the base because they have a candidate in Terry McAuliffe that goes out there and says parents shouldn’t be making decisions on behalf of their children that are in school, which is just ludicrous.

So they’re pulling out every stop in the book with Obama, Stacey Abrams. Even President Biden was up there the other day. But that’s what they do. And look. Stacey Abrams is lining her pockets through this narrative that’s out there all over the country. It shouldn’t just concern us here in Georgia. It should concern people all over the country, ’cause she’s gonna be doing these same type things in your state.

And they’re gonna be using these same tactics to use the Justice Department to sue other states and to come after us because we simply want to have secure elections. And the whole idea that they’re not accessible is absolutely ridiculous. And you just look back to the 2018 governor’s race. We had the largest African-American turnout in that cycle in the state of Georgia, and you never hear them talking about that.

I was the secretary of state that helped create online voter registration where people can register to vote 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and many other things to my point of making it easy to vote but hard to cheat. And you had Georgia-based companies that came out with statements after we passed our bill saying, “Look, we support secure, accessible elections,” and they were getting boycotted because they didn’t go far enough for the left.

That’s the crazy world that we’re living in now. In the past, a lot of Republicans have relented and folded up and cut some sort of deal to try to end the controversy. I’ve been dealing with this crowd and fighting these lawsuits with Stacey Abrams and her folks since 2013-2014.  So I know how they do it.  They’re gonna continue this.

You gotta fight ’em every step of the way, and that’s what we’re doing, and we’re gonna win in court.  I’m convinced of that.  Our bill is a good bill.  It’s constitutional.  And, you know, we’re having elections right now in Georgia, and nobody’s howling about suppression.

BUCK:  Governor Brian Kemp of Georgia.  Governor, really appreciate your time today, sir.  Thanks for being with us.

GOV. KEMP:  Hey, thanks.  Go Braves!  Go Dawgs!

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He’s Not a Nice Guy! Mean Joe Campaigns for McAuliffe

27 Oct 2021

CLAY: We had Joe Biden getting set up and trying to drag Glenn Youngkin down by attacking him, using him as a Trump sort of surrogate — and, meanwhile, Terry McAuliffe is still out there flailing around trying to defend his position on schools. And what was interesting was Joe Biden claims that he was this unifier and that he was this incredible asset to bring the country together. Instead, he’s now accusing everyone, including Glenn Youngkin, of being white supremacists. Let’s listen to this cut last night from the rally in northern Virginia, Joe Biden talking about white supremacy.

BIDEN: Think of it! Republican Party nationally is for nothing. Not a joke! Nothing. Nothing! Just look around. Just look around what’s happening with the governor of Texas and Florida. They sold on women’s right to choose. (shouts) The lives lost to this pandemic could have been saved. Virginia, for the sake of your families and your country. We can’t let this happen here in Virginia. Extremism can come in many forms. (shouts) It come in the rage of a mob driven of to salt — driven to assault the Capitol. It can come in a smile and a fleece vest. (shouts) Either way, the big lie is still a big lie!

BUCK: Clay, here’s the situation with Joe Biden. First of all, I hate this thing, this consensus wisdom you get from the D.C. types. “Joe Biden’s such a nice guy.” I don’t think he’s a nice guy. I think that’s part of the mythology of Biden ’cause everyone knows he’s kind of an idiot. What are they gonna say, right? He’s not some guy with incredible oratory skills.

He does this, “Not a joke. Not a joke.” I’ve never heard anybody else use that phrase as often — or at all – -the way that he does. And here he is essentially trying to tie Glenn Youngkin, ’cause he wears a vest — which, most folks may know this. Very common thing among finance bros is to wear a fleece vest. Other people do too. I’m not…

But Glenn Youngkin was a private equity guy, and that’s considered the uniform, if you will, for many. You have a button-down shirt with the fleece vests on — usually a Patagonia, I believe, perhaps Lands’ End. So he’s saying Glenn Youngkin is somehow part of the white supremacists. I think he referred white supremacy. This is complete and utter madness.

But Joe Biden’s not a nice guy. Joe Biden’s the guy who said, quote, “They’re gonna put y’all back in chains” about Mitt Romney, we recall. Joe Biden is the guy who will take dirty shots, low blow us against Glenn Youngkin right now because they are panicking in Virginia over what’s going to happen here with the McAuliffe race. They know McAuliffe has lost all momentum.

It’s all with Younkin; the polls are starting to show it in a way that’s got them panicked, and Virginia then plays into a broader narrative of this is a failed administration. Virginia plays into a narrative of the Democrats… By the way, I think they’re gonna try to blame the Biden White House at some level for this.

But they’re also gonna understand that people are watching this and understanding what’s happening and at some level they’re coming away from this knowing — knowing without any question in my mind — that the midterms are gonna be a shellacking. A shellacking. They need to hold the line, so to speak, to McAuliffe here. That’s why when you have Biden doing this…

When he needs to, he’s an attack dog of the left wing of the Democrat Party. He doesn’t hold back. He’s not a moderating force. He’s not a unifying figure. That was all bull crap. We know it. That was all just stuff they said so they could have him as the Trojan horse and get Joe Biden across the finish line of the election pretending somehow that if only Biden were elected, we’d be so much better off.

It will fix the country. Normalcy. Does this…? What does it feel like? It feels like the third term of the Obama administration, is what it really feels like. Was that so unifying? Was there so much healing that occurred under the Obama years? Was the economy something that they will point to? Was foreign policy, was the border something they pointed to with great success?

No, of course not. It was all about the optics, all about the way that they were trying to package this for the American people. And Joe Biden plays the game just like all the rest of them. Basically, the real takeaway here for me is Joe Biden is no better than any of the other dirty players on the Democrat Party side who will say whatever they want to say.

I hate this “Biden’s a nice guy” thing. Yeah. He’s got a big grin and he’s used it for 40 years to be a submediocrity in politics. That doesn’t count. That doesn’t get you far enough in my book. I think we should take this at home and do a higher level. By the way, we’ve got some more on that Virginia governor’s race. Oh, I actually have Joe Biden here trying to speak on behalf of McAuliffe. Can we play clip 9, if you could, sir?

BIDEN: In fact, we’re takin’ a page from Terry’s book when (slurs) he was governor and when he’s be (sic) governor next time! We’re emerging from this pandemic want to expand pee — pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, millions of pre-care (mumbles).

BUCK: (impression) “Always yellin’ about somethin’.” No one knows what he’s talking about.

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FDA Panelist: Force Vaccine on Kids to See if It’s Safe

27 Oct 2021

BUCK: We gotta talk about covid vaccines for kids ’cause now the FDA advisory committee, right, has recommended this lower dose of Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine for children age 5 to 11. The vote was nearly unanimous: 17 members backing it, one abstention. So that happened in the last 24 hours, and so we got covid vaccine approved for kids.

What do we all think the next step is? Well, of course it’s gonna be making kids get the shot in blue states in particular and maybe some purple states. But this didn’t exactly, Clay… This didn’t make people feel particularly warm and fuzzy about where this is all heading. Here’s a New England Journal of Medicine editor Dr. Rubin, who’s on the FDA panel, who just kind of let something fly that we think everybody should hear.

RUBIN: We’re never going to learn about how safe this vaccine is unless we start giving it. That’s just the way it goes.

BUCK: Clay, I guess that’s true, but that doesn’t make anybody who’s got kids and questions feel good about this shot.

CLAY: We know beyond a shadow of a doubt, Buck, that kids are not in danger from covid. So you are telling me here that what makes sense going forward is to give kids a vaccine for something that they’re not even sure is going to work at all and that may create grave danger for them? It just doesn’t make logical sense no matter what for young, healthy kids with no issues whatsoever to suddenly have this mandate foisted upon them.

BUCK: I look at the questions that are being asked here, Clay. You see a lot of this at CNN, where they’ll do rhetorical questions that they think, “Oh, it’s so obvious.” He said, no, that’s not obvious at all or I would actually have a completely different answer to the rhetorical question posed. Here is a CNN anchor and reporter on the covid vaccine for kids saying, “Why would you roll the dice with your kids?” You gotta get them the shot to keep them safe.

ELIZABETH COHEN: We know that on social media we see lots of sniping, we see lots of people who are anti-vaccine giving out misinformation when the truth, is yes, children do tend to not get as sick with Covid-19 as adults do, but you never know what’s going to happen if your child gets infected. You never know if your child is going to be one of the ones who, unfortunately, gets sick and dies, so why would you want to roll the dice? You should get your child vaccinated to protect them and to protect the people around them?

BUCK: Lunacy.

ANA CABRERA: More than 700 children have died of covid-19 in this pandemic!

BUCK: Clay —

CLAY: It doesn’t make any sense, Buck. I went back and I just think it’s important for us to keep hammering stories like these about the data. If your kid is between 1 and 4 years old, they are over 10 times as likely to be murdered as they are to die with covid. They are far more likely to drown, to die in a car accident, to die of cancer, to die of heart disease, to die of the seasonal flu, to die via suffocation.

Why in the world are we acting like children in any way are in danger at all from this disease? And look. I wish no kids died for any reason. But the idea that kids are under danger here is a fundamental failure of the American health establishment. I don’t know about you, Buck.

But I recognized all these people out there celebrating this 17-to-nothing verdict from the FDA as if somehow it was going to make their children far safer. Like, who are these people who don’t know the basic data? I think this goes to the point, Buck, of being unable to land the plane. Democrats dialed up fear to such an extent that now they are not able to figure out how to dial it back.

BUCK: And, Clay, this is another one of these moments where you say, “There’s really key data here that is missing.” The same way that I keep pointing out we don’t know how many people in this country have natural immunity. There’s been a clear decision made to undermine and to downplay, I would say, natural immunity as part of this pandemic and the situation around it.

There’s also been a decision, it seems, because they’ll do all these other studies about all these other things. A decision has been made not to tell us. Here’s something we really should know. We have the numbers on child mortality as you point out for covid, and this is not something that any parent should be worried about. This is not something that any parent should say, “Oh, my gosh!”

Unless you happen to have a child who’s severely immunocompromised. But that also would mean that that child is at risk for a whole lot of other things, probably more dangerous to that child than even covid would be. It is true. You can get cut yourself shaving, get a staph infection, and die. That is a true thing that can happen. It’s unlikely in the modern era with antibiotics, but it can happen.

You don’t worry about it. Here’s the data set that’s missing. How much less likely is it for a child to transmit this to an adult? We’ve known from early days of the pandemic that children don’t really transmit it, and what they do is sometimes if there’s any evidence of something, right.? Outdoor transmission is a perfect example.

When there was outdoor transmission in this big study in China, I think they looked at a few thousand people and they found one case of outdoor transmission. “Oh, we can’t… We can’t say you can’t get it outdoors! Gotta wear that mask on the running trail by yourself,” right? Which is lunacy. That’s not how you make policy.

CLAY: Kids couldn’t even play, Buck. Remember they put up…? I think this is going to be one of the moments where people look back on it. They put up crime scene tape, Buck, around children’s playgrounds to keep people from being able to take their kids on swings.

BUCK: They padlock them in New York. They made it so clear. The one thing is, children should have been out in the air. So should the adults, by the way. But you look at this — and we’ve known that children, from the beginning we would say, “They’re at basically no risk and it’s very hard for them to transmit this to adults.” We can look at our… I don’t know. He’s my favorite governor. Can I say your favorite?

I don’t want to speak for you but I think doing the best job on covid is Governor Ron DeSantis, and he’s got the latest data out. It shows that since kids have been in school, there has been this enormous drop-off in covid, the lowest covid rate in the lower 48 states now in Florida. I’ve actually got the tweet: “34 days ago, State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo signed a rule that empowered Florida parents, eliminated healthy quarantines,” kids that don’t need to be quarantined, “and kept healthy kids in school.”

Now Florida has the lowest covid rate in the nation. Our schools since opening, Clay, have a 34 days ago, State Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo signed a rule that empowered Florida parents, eliminated healthy quarantines, and kept healthy kids in school.

Today, Florida has seen “a 76% decrease in cases since the day the new policy began,” and a 90% decrease in cases since August. The data set that I want to know is: What percentage of cases are child-to-adult transmission? Because they don’t have that. I think it’s because they don’t want people to see that children are basically no risk and don’t really give this to adults.

CLAY: And at this point also, Buck, tons of children have already had covid. So not only are they at low risk, not only are they not primary vectors for the spread of this disease, but many of them have already had covid, and it’s not even spreading inside of schools whether they’re wearing masks or not.

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