Doocy Stumps Psaki: Has Biden Ever Been to the Border?

22 Sep 2021

CLAY: Right now, the White House is having a press briefing, and Jen Psaki is up on the rostrum, and she was asked by Fox News’ own Peter Doocy, “Can you even remember any time that Joe Biden has been to the border?” as they discuss the crisis on the border right now.

DOOCY: Has President Biden ever been to the southern border?

PSAKI: In his life?

DOOCY: Yes.

PSAKI: I will have to get (sputters) look back in my history books and check the times he’s been to the southern border.

DOOCY: We have been looking all morning, and we cannot find any record of him visiting the border as president, vice president, senator, or even as a concerned citizen. Why would that be?

PSAKI: I — I can check and see when the last time or when he may have been.

BUCK: I’ve been with Border Patrol, three, four times the last couple years, Clay, or the last two or three years.

CLAY: So you’ve made it down.

BUCK: Not just a little bit. I’ve spent a week down there. I mean, I’ve spent time at the border, and I don’t run the country. But, you know, Clay, the thing about it is that, if they ask Biden, could he even remember? You have to wonder, if he had to go back in the memory banks about the border, would we trust the answer?

CLAY: Oh, we wouldn’t trust the answer at all. But the fact that he may… That’s great research by Peter Doocy and the Fox News team fhe fact that he may never have been to the border is in his entire political career. And, you know, that was clearly a question that Jen Psaki wasn’t expecting, and that’s pretty amazing.

We know Kamala’s been down to the border. She kind of did her photo-op. Mayorkas was down there this week. We played some of his audio. And people could say, “Well, why does it matter if the president is at the border or not?” Oftentimes presidential trips are symbolic because they give you a sense of what the president cares about.

It’s not as if Joe Biden’s gonna show up at the border and he’s gonna put on some bomber jacket and go put on some binoculars and look and be like, “Oh, we need to have better presence here, with everybody to have Predator drones!” No.

But it sends the message about what the federal government is going to focus on. It lets all the Border Patrol know, “Hey, the guy who’s ultimately in charge of policy cares deeply about what you are doing.” The fact that Joe Biden hasn’t taken the time or made the effort or had the energy to actually go to the border maybe in his entire career, is a pretty credible indictment of him.

BUCK: Well, remember when Kamala was faced with this? There’s some great Kamala moments already. Her staring into Lester Holt’s eyes and just saying, “I’ve been to the border” or “we’ve been to the border,” whatever that means, when she hadn’t, was one of the great Kamala moments ’cause she’s used to just getting away with saying whatever and the media just propping her up.

But, Clay, the problem with going and seeing and talking… There is no member of Border Patrol that you will find anywhere, there is nobody working this issue right now — the person does not exist — who will say, “This is not a crisis, we are not overwhelmed, and this is not,” and this is the part that really stings, “in direct response to what the Biden administration has decided at a policy level.” So it’s like you’re showing up to a place where you’re just… It would be like you and me showing up to a place full of male feminists and getting tomatoes even though at us. That’s no fun.

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Biden Floods Nation with Thousands of Illegal Aliens

22 Sep 2021

BUCK: They’re lying to you about the border. I know it’s not a surprise. I know that I say this and all of us feel this exasperation and frustration. Of course, they’re lying about the border. Kamala Harris. Remember the border czar? Why hadn’t she been to the border, she told us? Well, she stared into the camera and said she’s been to the border.

To which everyone including the people who will do anything to elevate Kamala’s brand — do anything to make it seem like she should be the next president after Biden (whenever that is) of the United States — said, “We can’t actually make it seem like you’ve been to the border, Miss Vice President or Madam Vice president, when you haven’t.”

There are limits to the lies that the media will get away with. But once again, they’re testing those limits because as of today here’s what you got: Thousands of Haitian migrants. Not only have they gathered at this bridge in Del Rio, Texas. Not only are they, in fact, overwhelming the resources of Border Patrol assigned to that area — and, yes, they are not whipping anyone.

The Border Patrol is not engaged in some horrible, inhumane practice of abusing or beating people from horseback. But they’re actually — the Biden administration is — letting thousands of them into the U.S. with a notice to appear in 60-days’ time in court. Clay, before we dive too deep into this, I’m just gonna go out on a limb here.

I don’t think the thousands of Haitian illegal aliens who are being released into the U.S. interior now — this is now confirmed — with a, “Hey, would he show up in court in 60 days?” I think a lot of them aren’t going to show up.

CLAY: Would you? Let’s think about it from their perspective. We still don’t know how in the world all of these Haitians ended up in South America in the first place. We don’t know what suddenly made them decide now is the time to go make a run for the border in Del Rio, Texas. But they’re winning, Buck.

And as soon as you allow them into the United States, they are going to vanish into the larger United States ecosystem. They’re going to have kids; they’re going to have live here potentially for decades, many of them probably for the rest of their lives. And so from their perspective, would you show up in a random court?

You may not speak the English language. You may not be able to understand the apparatus of the court. I wouldn’t show up. I don’t think that very many of our listeners would show up. This is a fundamental failure of the Biden administration, and they are lying to us. Now, the reality is these Haitians are gonna be in an incredible difficult place, right?

They don’t speak the language, necessarily. They don’t really know how our country works. Their ability to find a job and make money is going to be questionable at best, unless they have some family members who might already be here who can help them to understand what to do in the country.

But the bigger context here is, we have shut down legal immigration, by and large, because of covid, and we’ve shut down — up until the past couple of weeks, when we had the new announcement that you could fly in, we shut down — basically international travel to Europe and Asia and most of the countries around the world.

Now we’re allowing those people to come back in but we’re requiring a test. And even, Buck, if you go to Mexico as a tourist and you are an American citizen, you have to have a negative covid test. I believe it’s still in effect. It was when I was down here in the winter. You still have to have a negative covid test to come back; yet we’re allowing all of these tens of thousands of people on a daily basis to come across our border.

BUCK: And you asked the question about how, right? How did they get there?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: The logistics of this have not yet been fully understood. I know people who are down there at the border —

CLAY: Trying to figure it out.

BUCK: — who are trying to figure it out. Clearly, there was social media coordination. The Mexican drug cartels absolutely had a hand in this and are making a lot of money off of all this, by the way —

CLAY: No doubt.

BUCK: — which just further corrupts the Mexican state and government and police, and then you have more drug cartel activity that goes on. Fentanyl killed tens of thousands of Americans. Total drug overdoses last year was over 90,000, an all-time high. Those drugs are pouring across the border as Border Patrol is overwhelmed.

So we don’t know the logistics yet. But we do know you could say the overall impulse or the rationale behind the thousands and thousands of Haitians all showing up at once is they think they’re going to get into the U.S. Clearly, a lot of them are right, which is why we have been lied to in last few days. The governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, is trying to hold the line here and also trying to make sure everyone understands that it is the Biden policies that have led to this. But please, it is Joe Biden who has opened this up.

HARRIS: What I saw depicted about, um, those individuals on horseback treating human beings the way they were is horrible. And, um, I fully support what is happening right now, which is a thorough investigation in exactly what is going on there. Um, but human beings should never be treated that way, and I’m deeply troubled about it.

BUCK: Okay. So that was actually Kamala Harris talking about the situation which did not happen.

CLAY: That is the first thing I’ve heard her say about the border at all. It took an artificial element of this situation in order for Kamala Harris to even speak out, or for most of the members of the Blue Checkmark Brigade — who haven’t mentioned anything at the border since the cages flare up when Donald Trump was there when they tried to blame Trump for putting kids in cages. All of a sudden, this thing comes out, and now Kamala Harris has got an opinion on the border.

BUCK: Well, it’s amazing to me because what us is the story was a lie and then the story very quickly turned into, “Well, even if it didn’t happen, let’s have a conversation about how sad things are for the migrants that have gathered there.” So they use the emotional impulse of the story on this to get the subject matter to change. We do have, though, Governor Abbott on the Biden administration promoting this. Here he is.

ABBOTT: President Biden campaigned on having open borders in the United States. I’m sure most people when they heard President Biden either when he was a candidate or as president talk about open borders, they had no idea it would lead to the type of chaos that we’ve witnessed just behind me for day after day after day.

Contrary to what Kamala Harris talked about trying to solve this problem in the Northern Triangle, what the world is witnessing now is the open border policies that are being utilized by the Biden administration. It attracts people from across the entire globe including people coming from more than 150 different countries.

BUCK: Clay, that’s actually why it’s happening, right? How it’s happening we’re stilling finding out. Why it’s happening is the Biden administration has kicked the border wide open as a matter of policy, as a matter of choice. This is not a surprise to anybody who understands why people show up and come into America legally and how they do it.

CLAY: Well, and look, they took the cue. Again, what I think we need to figure out is how the Haitians got here and why they chose to come right now. We’ve seen these sorts of caravans before, but usually it’s from people who are just making their way to the United States border who were already in Mexico or Latin America or wherever they may be. That makes more sense to me.

This feels like a calculated attempt made by, frankly, people who’ve assessed and looked at the political situation and either decided, “Hey, we’re going to put so much pressure on the Biden administration that they essentially let us in,” because, Buck, this is what… You see some of these reports.

There are just Haitians now hanging out at gas stations all over Texas getting dropped off in buses, and they’re claiming that they’re putting these guys back on airplanes and sending them back to Haiti, and they’ve done that with a small minority of the overall population, but it seems like a substantially portion of these would-be immigrants illegally cross the Rio Grande and now they’re into Texas and will probably be in our country for decades now.

BUCK: Let’s add to this. You have to remember, there’s the border zone lawlessness and the gaming of the system usually around asylum, the asylum situation — and remember that the drug cartels coach people. The coyotes tell the people that they’re transporting, “Here’s what you say to pass the Credible Fear Test.” Some of them have actually been found with sheets that they’ll read off of.

CLAY: Yeah. A cheat sheet.

BUCK: Cheat sheets. It’s a cheat sheet where they say, “I fear in my own country that I will have violence against me,” and they’re learning different ways to get through the system. But you have to add to all that the Biden administration has effectively destroyed interior enforcement of immigration laws. So you’ve all these sanctuary jurisdictions across the country, and they act like there’s still rule of law there when it comes to immigration.

There absolutely is not. The Biden team, the Biden Immigration and Customs Enforcement leadership and DHS isn’t going to in any way enforce immigration laws against people that don’t show up for these hearings. They’re not gonna make them a priority. The only people who will get deported are serious violent criminals in some instances, Clay — and not even all of the serious violent criminals who are illegal aliens will be deported.

And then they’ll turn the point to a number and they’ll say, “See? We’re still enforcing the law.” No, they’re not. So if you get into the U.S., you are basically home free. You’re done. You don’t have to worry anymore. And the Haitian migrants — and, by the way, it’s not just Haitians. There’s Cubans and there’s Venezuelans and there’s others in this encampment.

They know this, Clay, obviously, ’cause that’s why they showed up. For the last 72 hours what has the media been saying, “Oh, the Biden administration is not going to let them in. They’re going to apply the rule of law,” and now that we find that’s a lie; thousands have been let into the United States. “What’s a few more thousand tomorrow?” is gonna be the narrative.

CLAY: And not only that, Buck, what happens when they get let into the United States? They get their phones, and they text their friends and they call their family members back in other countries and say, “Hey, we got into United States! We’re here now. Here’s what you need to do to come as well.” So when you allow anybody illegally into the United States, that leads to a further impetus for all these other people to recognize that they can also get into the United States illegally.

And, by the way, it’s important to recognize, this had basically come to a close under the Trump administration. The Trump administration had enforced the rule of law at the border such that we had seen historic lows, generational lows in migrants crossing the border because they were aware of how much more difficult it had been.

As soon as Joe Biden gets into office, all of this starts up anew. And we are seeing it occur at rates that haven’t happened in a generation now. We’ve gone from generational low of illegal immigration to generational high in illegal immigration in less than a year.

BUCK: That’s an excellent point. We should come back to what the Biden administration is saying about this in a moment, and we also have what Biden’s not saying, Clay, because the press doesn’t actually ask him any questions.

CLAY: They won’t talk to anybody.

BUCK: This is a problem, surges at the border. It did happen under Trump and they solved it. They figured out how to stop it. And then the Biden administration came in and said, “Let’s unsolve the problem,” because they don’t want to solve the problem.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: Joe Biden was asked about the situation at the border and whether or not it was under control. And he at least acknowledged that the border is not under control. Let’s play cut 3.

REPORTER: Mr. President, what’s your reaction to the images at the southern border?

BIDEN: Get it under control!

REPORTER: Is it under control or you have it under control?

BIDEN: We will get it under control!

CLAY: So do you buy into the question here? Do you buy into in any way that the Joe Biden administration is gonna get the border under control, or do you think — as I believe and I would imagine almost everybody out there believes as well, Buck — that what they’re looking for is for the media to pretend that the border is not under control and go back to covering everything else?

And this is where, Buck, I have to say, the Biden White House has so many different fires burning on so many different levels of incompetence that they may be able to dodge responsibility on the border simply because so many other things are going wrong, too, it’s hard to focus just to the border.

BUCK: Well, the day-to-day numbers at the border are awful if you believe in an immigration system rooted in the rule of law, right? But you can’t… A hundred in the Del Rio sector and a hundred in the Tucson sector and a thousand in the Tijuana/San Diego sector or San Diego corridor. All these different places, day in and day out, you can’t visualize that, Clay.

The problem here is very much one of optics, because you have so many thousands and thousands of people gathered in one place, you can show this, and it feels real. The number looks real. When you got an athletic stadium full of illegal aliens all gathered together at one point along the border, it feels not only like…

Well, you can see it, but also this is all very deliberate. This is not just a thing that kind of happening and a problem to deal with. There are movements that are ongoing to get people to the border, to get them into the United States. I’m sure if you did some of the looking into the funding here and some of the organization, you’d probably find there are some international NGOs who might have a hand in helping along the way.

You’ll find out that there are people that are actually very much in favor of this. And here’s the problem with the Biden administration, what you’re saying about so many fires burning, so many problems. Clay, they have no explanation for this. They can keep trying, but there’s no talking point that makes this go away.

CLAY: That’s the truth, and what they’re relying on… I was thinking as you talked about the different numbers of illegals coming across the border, imagine if we had a daily count of illegal immigrants entering into our country like we did covid infections.

How much different would that be if instead of every single day knowing how many people have tested positive for covid, if we were seeing all of the thousands of people who were illegally entering our country on a day-to-day basis? That would be pretty fascinating, I think, to see how it would play out in general. And, you know, maybe we need to start thinking that.

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Dr. Paul Alexander Calls Back, Says Kids Shouldn’t Be Vaxxed

22 Sep 2021

BUCK: Our buddy Dr. Paul got a lot of attention when he was on the show last week. He was in Toronto. He’s back in Washington, D.C. He was formerly in HHS under the Trump administration. We did a little bit of digging to find out more about Dr. Paul. Dr. Paul, what do you got for us today?

DR. PAUL: Hey, thanks, Clay and Buck. It’s Paul Alexander. I’m so honored and privileged. Look, I’m listening to you guys, and it’s an exceptional show. I want to say it this way. I wanted to make the argument that a nation has to consider their children already vaccinated and immune — and I’ll make my case quickly, shortly.

But I wanted to follow up with something you said. Look, I had my own links and dealings with Dr. Fauci, and I’m not gonna get into his service and all of that. But I’ll say that on covid for the last 19 months, he’s been flat wrong on everything. I think he’s one of the most, illogical, irrational and actually, at some points, absurd.

I am a scientist. I’m an academic scientist, and I work with many. We cannot understand anything he says, from day to day. It blows my mind, the attention he gets, because he had leadership positions in Trump and he has a leadership position in Biden. And I just don’t understand it. Now, here’s what I wanted to tell you today.

I looked at all of the evidence, me and researchers that I work with. We looked at every nation, every location in terms of lockdowns. Every single lockdown failed! We looked at every location in the world that implemented a school closure, including across the United States.

Every single school closure failed to stop transmission, failed in every possible way. We examined mask mandates. In every state in the United States and in every country in this entire world, not one location did a mask mandate work to stop transmission.

Every single policy that the task force under Trump implemented — and Trump implemented their policies. These were not Trump policies. He was guided by Fauci and Birx, et cetera. Every single policy failed. Every one was a catastrophic failure. For anyone to ever go back and try to blame Trump, I sit back and bristle because he took tone and guidance from them.

Yes, he was the boss, but he needed their technical input. And they failed him. They misguided him, and they even misguided whoever advises Biden, because this present administration is a complete failure. But I wanted to go back now to what I said. No child in America must be vaccinated with these vaccines. None.

And we must consider them already immune and actually vaccinated. Why? Children? The infectious fatality rate is close to zero for children, close to zero, statistical zero. Children don’t readily acquire it; don’t readily spread it. They do not get severely ill, readily, and they do not die and that is not me making this up.

This is data, and the reality is, I looked at the evidence to try to understand, is there molecular or biological explanation? And what I found was Patel and Bunyavanich. They published some research, two separate papers last year in JAMA that showed that in the nostrils of children and their nasopharyngeal passage lacks the number of ACE2 receptors that it does have.

That began to explain to us why children were at such low risk to begin with. Children just do not have the apparatus to become readily infected and readily transmit, and that’s one piece of the puzzle. I also looked at some research by Loske, who also showed that the airways in children already primed to sense this virus and had a much stronger early innate response to the SARS-CoV-2.

That was point two for me as to why children were at such risk. I looked at research by Yang, and Yang told us that the blood that they collected from kids before SARS-CoV-2 started had the type of B-cell antibodies in it that showed that they were exposed to prior common cold and give them some protection.

That was potent, potent data that the medical community knows. CDC understands. There’s also research by Wise and Faber that told us that the T-cells in children when they looked at it, they were so naive and so untrained that that gave them an understanding of why children’s immune system responded.

Those four pieces of evidence tell me from a biological and a molecular point of view — I’m not even talking about the Danish studies and the French articles that showed children didn’t spread. I’m not talking about the Ludvigsson study in Sweden that showed of two million Swede kids, no cases of death.

I’m not even talking about the epidemiology. I’m talking about the molecular, underlying biology. It shows that children do not get this infection readily and do not spread it. Children have no opportunity for benefit from these vaccines, only potential for harm. We must not allow our children to be vaccinated, and that’s what I wanted to share today.

BUCK: Dr. Paul!

CLAY: Thank you, Dr. Paul. He kills it every single time he’s on.

BUCK: You’re following this guy. Obviously, his knowledge, his ability to be conversant in both the details with the high level about this. It’s very compelling, which is why we had him on before. I had doctors all across the country writing in to say, “Yeah, what Dr. Paul said? I agree,” and I think we’ll have a lot more of that today, Clay.

CLAY: No doubt. And look. I’m a parent. I believe in vaccines. My kids are vaccinated. They’re not going to get covid vaccine because of everything he just laid out. You look at the data; they’re not at risk from covid! Why would you, for young kids, insist on a covid vaccine? It’s madness.

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Blackface Trudeau Can’t Keep Track of His LGBTs and Qs

22 Sep 2021

CLAY: We have a lot of listeners up in Canada, actually, where Justin Trudeau has been reelected. But that didn’t come without a few extra blackface photos circulating.

BUCK: (impression) “Do you have a lot of OutKick fans, eh, up in Montreal?”

CLAY: Justin Trudeau… By the way, Buck, did the guy only go out in blackface costumes? It seems like there’s an awful lot of blackface of him and also I guess the Aladdin costume would be, what, brownface?

BUCK: Not even clear. By the way, I asked earlier, I am assuming OutKick is a big deal up in Canada, right?

CLAY: We do, eh, have a lot of Canadian readers, and I know Clay and Buck, we have a lot of listeners up there, ’cause that country is a lot like Australia, and it has spiraled totally out of control compared to freedoms. The funny thing is, I don’t even know how many letters we now have.

‘Cause it used to be LGBT, which was a lot to keep up with, but then they added in Q and Z and P and everything else, and (laughing) Justin Trudeau got all sorts of stumbled up trying to make sure that he was being as inclusive as possible. Listen to this.

TRUDEAU: I will never apologize for standing up for LGDP — Uh, L — GT — LBT… (annoyed sigh)

AIDE: LGBTQ2+

TRUDEAU: LGBTQ2+, uh, kids’ rights to not have to undergo conversion therapy.

BUCK: Can we just…? You know what you can really do? If you’re standing in front of Justin Trudeau, I assure you, he’s so woke, you could just start adding letters, and he would say them.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: LGBTQRSLMNOPABCTUV!

CLAY: You might as well just say the entire alphabet at this point. I want to hear that one more time just because it’s so perfect. I mean, this is a guy who should be an expert at making sure that he’s as inclusive as possible. He can’t even keep up with all the letters now.

TRUDEAU: I will never apologize for standing up for LGDP — Uh, L — GT — LBT… (annoyed sigh)

AIDE: LGBTQ2+

TRUDEAU: LGBTQ2+, uh, kids’ rights to not have to undergo conversion therapy.

BUCK: You need the plus so when you add the new letters you got room for them. That’s the point of the plus.

CLAY: It’s like, “Please excuse my dear Aunt Sally.” Is there a parenthetical involved here? I don’t even know. This is confusing for me already.

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The Fauch Rejects Our Invitation, Then Quickly Reconsiders?

22 Sep 2021

BUCK: Clay had this great idea that we should just… Look, instead of talking about “The Fauch” and what he’s saying at any given moment, why don’t we get him here to join us? We’ve had former President Trump on the show. We’ve had a couple senators and experts.

And, Clay, usually when we invite someone on to a platform of this size — and we thank Rush for building a platform of this size and now we are entrusted to try to continue the fight in his name, in the house that Rush built. But, usually, when we invite people into Rush’s house, so to speak, they come.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: What happened with Dr. Fauch? We put out “The Fauch” signal, and he’s not answering.

CLAY: Yeah. So, I think this is significant. And if you heard David Zweig on in the second hour of the show, what we want to have on this show is the most honest, fact-based intelligent radio show — and maybe show in general ’cause I think TV shows have gone off the rails a lot of times in the country, right? That’s our goal. That’s a high aspiration.

That is the mantle that Rush handed to us, and that’s the one we’re trying to rise to every single day. Doesn’t mean we’re gonna do it. We’re on 15 hours a week. Sometimes you’re gonna hear us and be like these idiots, what in the world were they thinking for 15 minutes or an hour or even a show? We might not deliver for you every single day.

Doesn’t mean we’re not trying to. And, as a part of that, I think we owe it to all of you if we’re gonna be talking about and the places where we disagree with him and playing clips of his interviews everywhere else in the media. He’s on MSNBC every day. He’s on CNN every day. He’s on every left-wing media outlet you can find.

We’ll respectfully extend an offer to him to ask the questions directly to him that we are talking about every single day. So I said, “Hey, let’s extend an offer to him. Maybe he will respect the audience that we have and respect all of you enough, even if he doesn’t respect Buck and I, to want to address you directly.”

Instead, he has rejected us. So, I am going to bring in Dr. Fauci’s perfect doppelganger here, a graduate of the same high school as The Fauchmeiser himself. This is Dr. Buck Fauci who is here to respond. Now, while Buck is going to be doing a voice here, right?

BUCK: Yes. (laughing)

CLAY: This is an actual email. You’re not faking this email. This is the actual email response —

BUCK: From the Office of Communications.

CLAY: — from the office of Dr. Fauci himself. Here we got it.

BUCK: (impression) “Hi. Thank you for checking in, and my apologies for the delayed response. We appreciate your interest. However, as you’ve noted, Dr. Fauci is currently overwhelming busy, and we will not be available for this interview. Best, Office of Communications and Government Relations” and Mitigation and Droplets, et cetera, et cetera, Dr. Fauch. Uh, Clay, can I just say, in media-speak when they tell you —

CLAY: Oh, gosh. That’s amazing.

BUCK: — not available for this interview, not available this week or whatever. This is the equivalent of when I ask a woman out when she says, “I’m really busy these days.” That means the Buckster’s reach has exceeded his grasp.

CLAY: You’ve outkicked your coverage in the dating world.

BUCK: I’ve outkicked my coverage, indeed. Fauci here, his office just straight up telling us no chance, guys. And, you know, I just think it makes me kind of sad, because if he came on, I give you my word, it would not be a grumpy Buck day (’cause that could happen). I would be — I would be respectful but firm in the questions I would ask, and I really do want to be able to ask him certain questions that I know the media won’t. Looks like we’re not getting that chance.

CLAY: And again, I just want to emphasize what he said. The guy is — and I gotta be careful so that I don’t curse. The guy is full of you know what, right? When he says that he is overwhelmingly busy, I want you to pay attention to how many outlets he will make the time to appear on. The guy does everybody who shows up with a mic and is going to gently caress all of his idiocy.

He’ll make time for anybody at MSNBC. He will make time for anyone at CNN. It doesn’t matter who they are. He will show up. He might well show up tonight after saying he’s overwhelmingly busy. And again, I do think it’s funny that Buck points out, he’s not available ever.

BUCK: Right.

CLAY: Like, he’s so busy that he can never speak to you at all at any point in the future.

BUCK: The biggest radio show in the country, and he doesn’t have time to speak to us. I just would say, you look at CNN and how often he’s on there, you have to wonder, do they have a cot for him in the greenroom?

CLAY: Basically.

BUCK: Does he have, like, a place where he can sleep? ‘Cause he’s there so much, it would just make sense for him to at least have a place to stay. You know, maybe they set him up with his own bathroom and a washcloth for those long days. It’s crazy, Clay. But he’s a political operative posing as an infectious disease, nonpartisan policy adviser. That’s what “The Fauch” really is.

CLAY: And, by the way, CNN is coming after us. This is not really a surprise, but when we pointed out that Fauci said that college football games were gonna be superspreaders and that covid-19 was gonna be “feasting,” is the word that was used. Oliver Darcy at CNN said, “Where did Fauci say these games would be ‘superspreaders’?

“When asked earlier this month on CNN about the scenes of maskless fans in packed stadiums, he said he didn’t believe it was smart, but that’s not the same as declaring the games would be superspreaders.” So then we had to share with Mr. Darcy here the clip from MSNBC where he said that it was going to be a feast, and this is when he had time to appear on Joy Reid’s show. Let’s listen to this.

REID: What was your, uhhh, sort — sort of immediate thought when you saw all of those fans packed into stadiums in Texas, Wisconsin, and elsewhere? As soon as I saw it, I thought, “Covid’s about to have a feast.” What did you think?

FAUCI: I thought the same thing. I think it’s really unfortunate. I would hope that most of the people in that stadium were vaccinated. And if they were, the close congregate setting, they should have been wearing masks.

BUCK: Fauci, meanwhile, doesn’t wear masks at baseball games for very long. We’ve all seen those photos, right? But he was outdoors. Clay, when he’s agreeing so heartily with honestly one of the more ignorant cable news host — there are a lot of them that would be up for the role of most ignorant, but one of more ignorant ones — it tells you something.

CLAY: Not only that, but the fact that he’s totally wrong about this, we’re gonna be almost the only news outlet out there — I think Fox News will pick up on this, ’cause I work at Fox. But this is a big deal. And people say, “Well, why do you use this?” Because when you’re wrong about this, you are wrong at a minimum about massive outdoor crowds, right?

So this idea that you need to have vaccine passports or you need to have negative covid tests, the data reflects that all over the South cases have plummeted in the two weeks since hundreds of thousands and millions of people went to games.

BUCK: Could it be a seasonal effect that we are seeing like the one that happened last summer before the vaccines as well? Gee, maybe if we paid attention to this or were allowed to in the media pay attention to this without being shouted down or ignored all the time, we would get further in the national conversation.

I’d also say — Clay, I know you feel the same way. On this show I was talking about how a book, The Old Breed, and I said it was the basis for Band of Brothers, I meant The Pacific, the other great World War 2 HBO show. That has still bothered me to this day. Saying one thing that would… It was just a brain slip.

Band of Brothers is great, The Pacific is great, watch them both. But with the old breed for the Pacific, obviously, not Band of Brothers. But that’s been obviously bothered me still now. Fauci goes on TV and says wrong crap all the time. Have you ever seen him go on TV and say (impression), “Mea culpa. It was a late-night at MSNBC, and I was tired, and my eyelids were getting droopy, and I misread the data?” No. It’s always, “I am science.” That’s what he says.

CLAY: And I think that’s important. And I think one thing that our audience has already learned about us is we’re far from perfect. We’re gonna screw up all the time. We may call for a clip and it doesn’t show up. We may call for a clip and it’s a different clip. We may try to go to a caller and the caller might not be there. We may, as you mentioned, talk about something and get a fact wrong.

But when we get something wrong, we are going to be honest with you and say, “Hey, it was a screw up. We’re not gonna be perfect. This was 15 hours a week of live radio, and we’re here with you guys, and we’re trying to get things right.”

I always said on my old show — and I know you talked about this, too, Buck — the reason why facts matter for our purposes is, one, we don’t want to ever be factually inaccurate with you because we don’t want to spread inaccuracies. But also, we have lots of opinions.

And if your opinion is based on a fact inaccuracy, then you are going to end up with worse opinions, right? And so this is significant. Own when you are wrong. Will anybody hold Fauci accountable? This is significant, too, because what he’s trying to do is keep a lot of you from being able to go to a college football game or a high school football game or an NFL game. He doesn’t want you in a store without a mask.

BUCK: This is why I don’t feel sheepish about really trying to take Fauci to task on stuff, because the stuff that he’s doing, his bad ideas and his dishonesty are hurting people.

CLAY: A billion percent yes.

BUCK: I know he thinks he’s saving people, but the data does not support him. The actual numbers when you line it up on a timeline with his prognostications and his statements Fauci ex cathedra, right? When that happens, when you see this, you know this is a guy who people have lost their businesses because of him, people have had to get shots they didn’t need because of him.

CLAY: They haven’t been able to go to school.

BUCK: They haven’t been able to go to school. I was gonna say, have been alone and lonely and overdosed on drugs because of lockdowns which never should have happened to this country — never should have happened in any country, by the way. You see the dehumanization of the people of Australia by their own government.

They have police officers now; they should be resigning before they even think about the stuff they’re doing. Thee deploy and start firing rubber bullets at people who were just protesting — not destroying anything, not attacking anyone, protesting — against the lockdowns because the protest act itself is a violation of the lockdowns. This is what they’re willing to accept in that country.

Do you ever hear Fauci, by the way, say, “Look at the excesses! We would never do that here.” No, I think the people who really understand Fauci know that if he can see push for those things or could have, he would have, and he would sleep soundly at night knowing that he was arresting anyone listening to this with their 3-year-old screaming and crying for failure to wear a mask.

CLAY: That’s where we would be. I 100% believe we would be Australia if we didn’t have Republican governors, if we didn’t have federalism country, there would be no checks on the power of Joe Biden, the Democrats, and Dr. Fauci. They would have us locked down. I really believe that they would be arresting people for protesting the lockdowns. I think that’s where we’d be.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: “The Fauch” has emailed us again!

BUCK: What?

CLAY: Look down at your phone. After we read the response from “The Fauch…” I’m not kidding. Look at your phone. I’ll read it.

BUCK: Hold on.

CLAY: Do you want me to do it or do you want to read it in the Fauci voice?

BUCK: This is breaking news.

CLAY: Breaking news for the show.

BUCK: This is mind-blowing! What have we got here? I don’t… (laughing) Clay, I’m —

CLAY: We got a new email. So for people out there who are just tuning in, we have invited Dr. Fauci on the show. After we read The Fauch’s denial of our invitation, Fox News reached out to us and said, “Hey, we may do a story about Fauci declining to come on your show. Is that okay?” and I said, “Sure.” We read you the email that we got and now the Fauchster, his people have already reached out anew. Do you want to read this one too?

BUCK: Was this in my text or in my emails?

CLAY: You should have gotten the text too.

BUCK: Oh, wow. Hold on a second. “We received your request…”

CLAY: There you go. I need to hear it in the Fauci voice.

BUCK: (impression) “We received your request for Dr. Fauci to appear on the show. Ideally, what date and what time would he appear? I presume it will be live. But would you take caller questions? What is the total amount of time Dr. Fauci pre- and post-interview included would need to do the show? This information will help as we consider the request.” Oh, looks like the blanket we’re-gonna-ignore-you maneuver ain’t gonna fly from the NIAID, NIH comms shop.

CLAY: Sounds like… I mean, I think what’s happened is they probably are now recognizing, “Oh, this show’s kind of a big deal, and we’re getting media questions about your rejection, given the fact that Fauci appears everywhere.”

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Fauci Claimed Covid Would Feast on College Football (It Didn’t)

22 Sep 2021

BUCK: Clay, on the Fauci conversation around college football, I’m just… Has everyone from a college football game tested positive for covid? Because I think we were led to believe that it was (Fauci impression) “a supuh-spreaduh event.”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: Not the Emmys, though, the Emmys is exempt from covid.

CLAY: The Emmys, Barack Obama’s birthday party, I think what we’re finding out, Buck, maybe is that it’s a really sophisticated, educated crowd that is showing up for the college football games. So I want you to listen to this audio here from MSNBC, Dr. Fauci.

We’re gonna discuss his response to being invited on our program at the top of the hour 3 — and, trust me, you’re gonna want to get your popcorn for that discussion. But Dr. Fauci had the time to go on Joy Reid, probably the most dishonest person with a television show anywhere in the country right now.

And that’s saying something when you consider who’s got shows on CNN and MSNBC. But listen to Joy Reid talking about how appalled she was at the crowds of college football fans, and then Dr. Fauci talking about how he was incredibly troubled himself based on those crowds. Listen.

REID: What was your, uhhh, sort — sort of immediate thought when you saw all of those fans packed into stadiums in Texas, Wisconsin, and elsewhere? As soon as I saw it, I thought, “Covid’s about to have a feast.” What did you think?

FAUCI: I thought the same thing. I think it’s really unfortunate. I would hope that most of the people in that stadium were vaccinated. And if they were, the close congregate setting, they should have been wearing masks.

BUCK: (impression) “The congregate setting.” It’s amazing, Clay, this guy on cue tells not just MSNBC hosts and CNN hosts and their audiences what they want to do hear all the time. That’s how I know he is the worst. You know how much I despise…? Apparently, I can say it now ’cause he’s definitely not coming on our show. Flat-out turned down.

CLAY: All right. So I think it’s important. You just heard Dr. Fauci say that college football crowds were going to be “a feast” for covid. That’s what he said, “a feast,” and that that was because people weren’t wearing masks, they were tightly packed. I went and looked at the data because it’s now been over two weeks.

Everybody said, “Just wait two weeks!” It’s now been over two weeks since the college football opener. Okay. Here’s the data. In Florida, after Dr. Fauci said, “It’s gonna be a feast” in big stadiums — Florida State, Florida, Miami, Central Florida, South Florida.

Millions, probably, of fans that have gone to games all over the Southeast. Well, in Florida, cases dropped 44%, Buck, in the two weeks since the season started. In Tennessee — this is from the New York Times covid data, by the way. In Tennessee, there’s been a 43% decline in covid cases since the season started over the last two weeks.

There’s been a 35% decline in Georgia, 32% decline in South Carolina, 30% decline in Mississippi, 22% decline in Arkansas, 23% in Alabama, 9% in Texas. Every single SEC state where millions of people have gone to college football games has not led to a feast of covid as doctor Fauci predicted. Every single SEC state, Buck, is in fact down. And, by the way, that’s NFL stadiums now too.

BUCK: You want to wonder. Are they putting some kind of anti-viral in the IPAs or something? What’s going on here?

CLAY: Maybe football cures covid. That’s one hypothesis.

BUCK: If Fauci’s gonna go on TV and say stuff like that, we all have to remember that he picks and chooses who he will throw political spitballs at.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: It’s very clear he’s a little totalitarian fraud. I don’t just say this because I disagree with some of his policy prescriptions. I see the way he has maneuvered the entire time in such a way that he would be in keeping with what the Beltway set wants to hear, with what the apparatus of left-wing Democrat control in the Biden administration expects him to say.

He always, Clay, plays the part. That you have never, in this entire pandemic, seen a true critical article or monologue about Fauci on a single left-leaning outlet tells you everything you have to know. This guy is not some medical genius. He’s a bureaucrat — does-anything-to-get-ahead leftist — and that’s it.

People that don’t see that yet. I don’t know what else has to be provided to them because otherwise why take a shot at college football, Clay, but not say, “Yeah, but you know the U.S. Open tennis, that happened recently.” Because Fauci’s fancy friends, his cocktail party buddies go to see tennis at the U.S. Open, he doesn’t think it’s quite the same thing when it comes to SEC football games.

CLAY: That’s right. And, again, I think it’s the duty of people like us but reasonable, honest, direct people in the media to hold the, quote-unquote, “experts” accountable for what they say when it’s proven to be untrue. And this is significant for people out there because it suggests that you can go to outdoor events at a minimum — tightly packed outdoor events at a minimum — and not have to worry about covid.

You don’t have to wear a mask. You don’t have to worry about six feet, which we all know is totally map in terms of the social distancing impact. In other words, we’ve been saying for a while, “The emperor, Fauci, is wearing no clothes here,” and the data doesn’t in any way support what he is trying to argue. We can’t just let him say that covid’s going to feast on all these college football fans, and then most people are going to forget it and pretend that it was never an argument.

BUCK: If there was really going to be accountability here, Fauci should go to TV, which he does every five minutes —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: He’s on TV more than either of us, and we work in the media, Clay. It’s pretty amazing when you think about it. This guy, you think he’s with “the scientists” figuring out new cures and treatments and helping NIAD under the NIH umbrella do great things. No. Instead he’s showing up and high-fiving Chris Cuomo and hanging out with Maddow, and this is what this guy does all the time.

CLAY: Writing books!

BUCK: Writing books — or having books written for him he puts his name on. You would think that he would at least be willing to come out now and say, “Wow, I think we overstated the risk at these college football games,” but he never admits he’s wrong. It’s always, “That’s what the data said then, and the data evolved.”

The only exception to this is when he flat-out admitted — or, rather, I actually don’t believe he admitted this. I think this is another lie on top of the admitted lie that he said masks don’t work ’cause he didn’t want us to take all the good masks in the beginning of the pandemic. It was for our own good.

The notion, Clay, of the noble lie from the left on covid is something we’re gonna hear a lot more of. They actually now embrace pretty openly that if they have to mess with the numbers, if they have to exaggerate, if they have to lie about the risk to kids, they’re doing it for our benefit. So it’s okay. There’s no accountability baked into the system.

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Pelosi Praises Biden’s “150,000” Vaccinations

22 Sep 2021

PELOSI: Thank God for President Biden for putting us on a different course where, uh (sputters) over 150,000 people have been fully vaccinated and more vaccinations. That’ back on the uptick.

BUCK: Indeed, “thank God for Biden with the 150,000 vaccinations,” Nancy Pelosi says. Welcome back to Clay and Buck show. (impression) “Thank President Biden for 150,000…” It’s not like she just says it, Clay, and corrects herself. I think it’s fair to say Nancy Pelosi and a lot of the Democrats, not big numbers people.

CLAY: They’re not good at math. They’re big numbers people like 3.5 trillion is a big number.

BUCK: Good point.

CLAY: They don’t understand the significance of the numbers and what that can represent to an overall American economy. Now, from a budgetary perspective, it appears that there’s gonna be enough moderate Democrats in the House and the Senate that the Bernie budget bill is right now in the process of going up in smoke.

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Ron Johnson’s Warning: The Vaxxed Are Dying in Israel, U.K.

22 Sep 2021

CLAY: Yesterday, Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin was on with us. And he had some really interesting things to say about the data basically you’re not hearing on any other show almost in the country when you consider what is being said and what you’re being told. In particular, you’re being told that if you get the vaccine, you have virtually no risk to covid.

That’s what you’re being told right now by the Biden administration, by Dr. Fauci, by very many health experts out there. But if you look ahead to England and you look ahead to Israel, the data is actually a lot more alarming. Listen to Ron Johnson yesterday talking about the most recent data from England and who is dying with covid.

JOHNSON: It doesn’t look like the vaccine’s holding up very well against Delta. The most recent technical brief by Public Health England shows that overall in 2021, 70% of deaths were in partially or fully vaccinated individuals, 30% on the unvaxxed. The most recent time, August 2nd to September 21st, it’s about 74% in fully vaccinated verses 26% in the unvaxxed. So, again, that’s unfortunate. I wish, I hope — God, I wish — the vaccines were 100% effective, 100% safe, but it doesn’t appear they are.

CLAY: That’s a pretty big deal, Buck. And again, I don’t want to slide over this. We talk about using England and Israel as data for where we are headed, because they have a more vaccinated country than we do. Most recent data in England: 76% of people dying with covid are vaccinated?

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: That’s earth-shattering.

BUCK: By the way, because of the way he said it, he made it sound like… He means the 70% from the U.K. data is over that time period that he mentioned afterwards. It would not be 70% fully vaccinated from the beginning of this year. So just to be clear. He was transitioning there because I checked up on this later.

Let’s just take that for a moment what Senator Ron Johnson said. And others have pointed this out too. The last bastion of Fauciism when it comes to the vaccine — and when I say Fauciism, I mean, of, “oh, but he was right,” or, “oh, he’s got a point,” is it prevents severe disease and death, right? Severe hospitalization essentially.

That’s what we’re gonna talk to David Zweig about here in a few minutes in depth. But if the vaccines fade as we know, they keep saying, “Oh, it doesn’t stand up well against the Delta variant.” Well, and that makes sense because as we know vaccines evolve and can get were around variants but also we know that vaccines lose their potency over time.

The most recent data seems to suggest that what was maybe a 95% or 90% potency, Clay, drops over four months or six months or whatever it may be to more like 60 — which starts to feel very much like the efficacy of flu vaccines year in and year out.

CLAY: Which we don’t really call a vaccine. We call it a flu shot. Yeah. This should basically be called a covid shot.

BUCK: Also, they don’t want people to get confused. You get a vaccine you think you’re good.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: You get a polio vaccine you’re not worried about getting polio in five years, 10 years.

CLAY: Or measles, mumps, rubella, all the things they want to compare this to.

BUCK: Correct. Yet with this one, they keep using the vaccine term when therapeutic is what this looks like, a short-term antibody boost that can be… Look, we’ve always said this and I feel like we have to keep repeating it. If you’re at high risk and you have concerns, I think it makes sense to get the shot, and I think it might even make sense to get the booster if you’re 65 and up.

You’ve gotta make those decisions for yourself. I don’t believe in the mandates, obviously, but I can see how that would make sense. I mean, the fact that they’re now talking about doing this for kids… I’m sure you saw this New York Times piece that’s been pulled parties by those who actually know the data.

There’s an overt campaign now pretty much, you can see it where they are attempting to overstate the risk to children. They keep saying, “Oh, kids have had a big surge in hospitalizations.” It’s still a very small amount of children overall and a tiny percentage of children hospitalized who get covid.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: Tiny. This is like if you’re in a community, let’s say, where you have one homicide a year, right? Let’s say you live in a town — and, by the way, I’m sure there are a lot of people listening to who have been in their town of 50,000 or something, there might be one homicide a year. Well, if you have a year where you have two homicides?

You could have huge headlines about a 100% increase in murders. And you’d get everyone all freaked out, but it’s not really indicative of a huge change in the crime scenario because the numbers still low. That is what they are doing overall with children’s hospitalization in order to justify the mandate to get them the shot.

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WH Journos Start to Complain About Handlers Shielding Biden

22 Sep 2021

BUCK: We have a Biden administration that is picking up on some things these days, maybe just starting to figure out that people don’t exactly have a tremendous amount of faith in Joe Biden’s ability to do complex reasoning around major policy and national security challenges. See what’s happened in Afghanistan. See what’s going on at the border.

And also, maybe Joe Biden is just what we’ve said all along: Not up for the job, too old, slowed down a little bit, just doesn’t have it. Because they’re certainly making it seem that way when they try to shield him from questions from the press corps. It has now gotten to the point where it’s not just Clay and me sitting here telling you, “Oh, but Biden won’t answer questions.”

The people who are usually the scribes of the regime when it’s a Democrat, the White House press corps, they’re even starting to complain about this a little bit. And here’s why. Here’s an example. Biden had a meeting with the Australian prime minister at the United Nations, and it is the kind of tradition that right afterwards usually the president will take a couple quick questions. Here’s how his handlers reacted in that instance.

BIDEN: … democracies of the world. (coughing) We’ve got a lot of work to do. So thank you all very much. (coughing)

REPORTERS: (shouting questions)

HANDLER: (shouting) Come on, guys. Thank you. All right, let’s go. Thank you. Thank you, guys!

BUCK: I could do that job, Clay, as one of the Biden handlers through the White House. “Thank you! Let’s go. Shut up! Shut up, everybody! No questions. Shut up! Shut up! We’re going! We’re going!” You could just see her escorting the feeble president stage left as quickly as possible.

CLAY: Did you see the data that over half of Americans now believe that Biden’s not mentally up to the job? And over half seems low. It’s a delicate position that they’re in, right? They’re in a Catch-22. Because if they allow Biden to field questions, he demonstrates that he’s not mentally capable of the job. If they don’t allow Biden to field questions, it demonstrates they don’t believe that he’s mentally capable of doing the job.

BUCK: And they’re not capable of doing their jobs, either, if they don’t allow Biden to answer questions. (chuckles)

CLAY: So I don’t know what the answer is here. Obviously, the answer is “have a mentally competent president.” But if you’re on the White House staff at this point, every time he takes a question — we know this, Buck, right? Like they gave him a list of who he’s a supposed to ask when he takes questions.

And then they tell him when he’s not supposed to take questions. We still don’t know who officially is telling him that, but it must be a consensus opinion of White House staff. Because when he takes questions, they are holding their breath. He called the prime minister of Australia… What did he say? “The fellow from down there” I think he called him? He couldn’t remember his name.

BUCK: “The fellow from down under,” I believe.

CLAY: “The fellow from down under.”

BUCK: Sounds like a very different show.

CLAY: Yeah. But that is a sign that he is totally without the ability to interact on anything other than scripted, and remember —

BUCK: We have another instance of this, Clay, though.

CLAY: Yeah, play that, too.

BUCK: It’s piling up, right? So we played that one time. He’s witting with the prime minister of the United Kingdom, Boris Johnson.

CLAY: Who will talk to everybody.

BUCK: He’ll talk to everybody, has a very fancy accent, gets excited when he starts fielding questions and the reporters are happy because here you go, one of our closest allies with the president in the Oval Office, time to get some good sound bites. That’s why they’re there. Here is how the White House reacted in that situation.

JOHNSON: — interrupts or unbalances the Belfast Good Friday Accords. That’s the Belfast Good Friday Agreement. That’s the —

REPORTERS: (shouting questions)

HANDLER 1: Okay. Thank you! Let’s go! Thank you. Let’s go. Thank you.

HANDLER 2: Let’s go. Thank you.

FEMALE REPORTER: What did he say?

MALE REPORTER 1: I have no idea. (laughing) Hope the microphone got it.

MALE REPORTER 2: (laughing) Why didn’t any White House reporters get questions?

BUCK: I want everybody to hear it, Clay. I want everyone to hear it because this is… there we go. Yeah, they’re even complaining at the end, it is standard practice not only to allow there to be questions, they interrupted the prime minister of the U.K. as a guest of the president in the Oval Office to make sure there was no opportunity to pose more questions that would go to Biden or — I think this is what really happened is — I think they’re afraid that Biden might just like chime in and say something dumb so they’re just all, “Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you!”

CLAY: Oh, that’s totally what they believe. I mean, they are dodging bullets like Neo in The Matrix every time Joe Biden fields questions because I think they know that viral moment of incompetence that comes… Almost every time Biden takes questions on anything, there’s a 20- or 30-second or one-minute clip where you can go grab it and you can see: The lights are on but nobody’s home for this particular interaction.

BUCK: It’s so bad, Clay, that they’ve actually officially complained about it. The White House press pool has marched into Jen Psaki’s office — and this is an excerpt from their email to her. “The entire editorial component of the U.S. pool went immediately to Jen Psaki’s office…” I’m sorry. No.

This is a description of what they did “…to register a formal complaint that no American reporters were recognized for questions in the president’s Oval Office and that wranglers loudly shouted over the president as he seemed to give an answer to Ed O’Keefe’s question about the situation at the southern border. Biden’s answer could not be heard over the shouting.

“Psaki was unaware the incident had occurred and suggested she was not in a position to offer an immediate solution.” That’s Psaki saying, “Tough! Don’t you guys realize what you’re here to do? Our bidding. This is a Democrat administration. That’s what journos do: The bidding of Democrats.”

CLAY: Well, and remember — and I think we have to keep echoing this because it’s so significant. Trump would stand up and take questions, for better or worse, for hours from the media. And yet there were all these stories about how the 25th Amendment needed to be put in place because Trump didn’t have the mental faculties to do the job.

In fact, they even gave him that cognitive test that he took to prove that his mental faculties were up to the task of being president. For better or worse, Trump would talk to the media all the time. When’s the last time that Biden stood and took questions for an hour, Buck, like Trump would regularly do such that his communication team would finally just come up and say, “Okay.

“He’s literally exhausted every question that anybody had in the entire press corps”? I don’t think Biden has the physical or mental stamina to be capable of that, and that’s what this ushering of people out of the White House represents, and it gives you a sense of how unprecedented it is that the media there, Buck, is so furious. Even though they’re covering a Democratic president and even though they’re mostly left-wing media, they’re not even being allowed to do their jobs.

BUCK: Even they, I guess, have their limits for how much they’ll take.

CLAY: You take money out of their pocket, you take some food out of their mouth, they’ll complain.

BUCK: I also think, though, that there’s a sense among the press corps in D.C. right now that never before have so many Americans understood what a fraud political journalism is until the Trump years.

CLAY: Well, I think that’s true.

BUCK: So they have to at least go through the motions, right? (laughing) They have to at least get questions to the president when they’re in the Oval Office.

CLAY: All the things going on! All the failures. There’s so I am topics that Biden should have to answer for.

BUCK: Right. They can editorialize and play games around the coverage of those failures which is what they normally do, but when they’re not even in a position to… It’s like it’s not safe for a journalist covering politics in D.C. right now to be invited to the fancy cocktail parties later if they put Joe Biden in a position where he might answer an unscripted question.

I really do think that some of them are worried that they could get blamed. Others want to at least go through the motions because they realize that if they don’t get a question out there, what are they doing? How could they even pretend that they’re journalists, right? So look, it’s a tough place for some of these Democrats because you remember the Obama years?

It was just like every journalist in D.C. is walking around saying, “Everything’s amazing! The world is great.” But it wasn’t, as we know (chuckling), but that was the attitude. “Oh, let’s just hear more words of brilliance from Barack Obama!” They want that to be the atmosphere in D.C. right now.

I’ve got a lot of friends who cover politics on Capitol Hill and at the White House, but they know that propping this guy up… I mean, at some point the crazy emperor’s running around with no clothes on, and no one’s gonna believe otherwise.

CLAY: And it’s gonna get worse, Buck, because we’ve seen what the impact is of the stress of being president on otherwise relatively young and healthy people. George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, how much older they looked when they left the White House versus when they came in. And it’s only gonna get worse for Biden at 78, 79, 80 years old as this continues.

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