The Tunnel to Towers 5K Run & Walk NYC

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Following the parade, the FDNY band led with bagpipes followed by hundreds carrying large photos of the first responders we lost.

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Biden Spreads Big Lies at Press Conference

24 Sep 2021

BUCK: Biden spoke this morning. I think the biggest news item that’s gonna affect all of us has to with the booster shots and the vaccines. Here is what he says as of about 10 a.m. Eastern or so today.

BIDEN: Listen to the voices of the unvaccinated Americans who are lying in hospital beds taking their final breath, saying — and literally we’ve seen this on television — “If only I’d gotten vaccinated. If only. If only.” They’re leaving behind husbands and wives, small children, people who adore them, people who are dying and will die who don’t have to die. It is not hyperbole to suggest it’s really a tragedy. Please don’t let this become your tragedy. Get vaccinated.

BUCK: Clay, we are talking now about getting vaccinated this morning. Getting vaccinated again is actually what the speech is about. It was about boosters. His own CDC is overruling last week’s panel.

CLAY: Yeah, and it happened after midnight, Buck. Imagine what the reaction would have been — and this is the party that claims that they care about science. Joe Biden’s entire campaign was I’m gonna restore normalcy and decency to the White House, and I think that’s one reason why his approval ratings are plummeting like they are.

But, Buck, we’re gonna talk to Alex Berenson in the third hour, and we talked with Ron Johnson earlier this week, senator from Wisconsin. And the big flaw — and there are many flaws in terms of the arguments based on science that the White House is making pertaining to covid. But the big flaw is the idea that if everybody were vaccinated, covid wouldn’t exist.

This is just not true. The data out of England, what is it, 76% most recently — Ron Johnson told us — of the people that are dying have been vaccinated. So this is not… This idea that they’re selling which is, “Hey, if everybody were vaccinated, covid wouldn’t exist anymore,” it’s just not true. It’s not remotely true.

BUCK: Well, and the data that you’re citing, Clay, out of the U.K. — and we will talk to Berenson about this later on. He’s also got a new book coming out so we’ll talk to him about what we can expect there. But the line right now from the Fauciites is: The vaccine keeps you from getting super sick and dying. So, it’s not even just a question. They’ve had to abandon the “You won’t get covid.” That’s clearly gone.

CLAY: Yes. That was their initial pitch.

BUCK: Right. That’s clearly not true, and discuss what the percentages are. The percentages appear to be much higher of breakthrough cases in the last 30 days even in the U.S. than what we have been told. Remember, the data always lags, right? There’s always these reporting lags. But the breakthrough cases are certainly higher than the unvaccinated. Biden keeps saying, “You have a one-in-5,000 chance of a breakthrough case on any given day,” which is really a bastardized statistic.

CLAY: He doesn’t say “on any given day.” That’s when Alex got him on. He says, “One in 5,000,” period. But it’s actually one in 5,000 every day, which is an infinitely higher percentage.

BUCK: It is every day, but he says one in 5,000. Nonetheless, what you’re talking about, though, when we’re discussing 70% of people in the U.K. dying who get vaccinated, that means the final readout, if you will — the final bastion of “Fauci has credibility and is right on something” (he’s been wrong on so many things — falls away.

That’s why they’re trying to get ahead of this right now with the boosters. Remember last week you and I were discussing on Friday — everyone heard it — they said, “Oh, but the boosters! We don’t need them right now, only for those are particularly high risk.” As of today, Clay, it’s for those 65 and older, adults are underlying conditions, and in high-risk working and institutional he settings — i.e., anyone who’s gonna be around human beings for their jobs.

CLAY: Well, with particular teachers which this continues to be a giveaway to the teachers union, this idea that they’re actually in unique danger — and, Buck, I was reading the New York Times yesterday. I try to read the Times every day just to see what their stories are. They had a story centered in Nashville, where I live, still talking about the school board meeting that I went to, probably a 2,000-word piece, talking with a parent who’s saying:

“Every day, I struggle with whether or not I should send my kid to school ’cause it’s so dangerous because everybody’s not wearing masks here.” These are lies, right? Yesterday we talked about the fact that you’re more likely to be shot in Chicago if you’re a kid than to die with covid. The amount of lies I don’t know has ever been higher in the history of this country than right now what is being spread surrounding covid and by the Biden administration for virtually everything, which is ironic because he promised that he was gonna be the adult in the room, and he failed.

BUCK: How many boosters are we supposed to get?

CLAY: And how long?

BUCK: That was the next question.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: How long do the boosters last? How many side effects…? I’ll tell you this. From the very beginning, right, when I had covid back in March, right, of this year and confirmed and I was wrecked, right? I actually got really sick. I had covid back in March. I remember when I got better, I talked to my personal doctor, and he just said, “Look the…” ‘Cause I got hit right when people started to get the vaccines, right; so it was like I was the last man to go down in my own mind before I had the opportunity of the vaccine.

CLAY: Did you think, “By the way, if I die, people are gonna celebrate”?

BUCK: Oh, yeah.

CLAY: When you got covid you started to feel bad?

BUCK: Sure.

CLAY: That was in your head?

BUCK: I didn’t think I was gonna die, but if I got really sick and I went to the hospital I knew that that was going to be part of it, even though, Clay, I had been forced to wear masks.

CLAY: You’d done everything they said to do.

BUCK: I did all this crap that they make you do. It does nothing, as we know, and somehow, I lasted a year plus without getting it but, anyway, point here being, I remember my doctor before this all got politicized saying, “Look. Wait until you get the shot.” Even Fauci he was a little bit, in the early days, saying, “If you’ve had covid because your body spikes the antibody level…”

The initial CDC guidance was to wait 90 days because they recognize that having elevated antibodies in your system and that having this artificial stimulus of antibody production could be weird, could throw your body out of whack, right? Could cause maybe more severe side effects. So now we’re getting boosters.

We’re getting boosters, and they’re just guessing at the antibody levels that different people have. They’re guessing have you been infected, have you not been infected, you got the shot, you’re getting a booster. Clay, they can’t keep up with all this, which is why… The fact that last week they’re telling you, “The experts say we don’t need the widespread boosters.” This week —

CLAY: Overwhelmingly.

BUCK: Overwhelmingly. This week they’re saying, “Actually we think you should, pretty much all adults reasonably speaking,” and when I say, “reasonably,” what’s gonna happen here is everyone who’s terrified, all the people who think who are 35, they have a 50% chance of going to the hospital? They’re gonna get the booster.

CLAY: One of the questions Biden got, Buck, when he actually took a couple of questions — he was reading names off a list again. But it was, what would you tell the people who are going to get boosters on their own who aren’t technically following the guidance, right? ‘Cause to your point there are people out there in their twenties and thirties terrified, convinced that they’re gonna die of covid.

They’re getting aware that their antibodies are declining because the vaccine has waning efficiency that have been going on their own to get their own booster shot. Which is next-level psychotic. And again, one of the big things and lessons I think we’ve learned from covid is we allowed people with anxiety disorders — who, by the way, I think are far more likely to be active on social media —

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: — sitting around on their phones, terrified all day long; far more likely I think over index to be journalists, to be people who are Blue Checkmark Brigade members. We allowed their fear to curtail all the freedoms of the normal people out there. And it’s still going on.

BUCK: That’s actually what the data reflects now.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That’s actually true. When you see people walking around as I do in New York, I’d say in Midtown Manhattan where I spend most of my time ’cause I don’t like having any privacy or space. I spend all my time in the most densely populated region of the entire country, and about 20% of people I’d say on the streets right now are masked.

CLAY: What’s your primary reaction when you see somebody with a mask outside, your first emotion? Is it anger, or do you feel sorry for them?

BUCK: Great question. It used to be disdain because I really thought that it just came from that, “Oh, I take it seriously. I’m one of the good people,” and there certainly is some of that. Now I actually have a sadness that these are mostly —

CLAY: That’s where I’ve moved too.

BUCK: Some of them are Americans. There’s also a lot of visitors here still in New York from other countries. But people I see, I’m thinking, assuming this is an American, I feel a pretty deep sadness. You know how your parents would say, “I expected more of you”?

CLAY: And that hit so much harder than them being angry.

BUCK: Oh, yeah, you get grounded. You’re like, ” I’m gonna sneak the video games in my room when you’re not paying attention.” When your parents are like “I thought more highly of you.”

CLAY: “I’m really disappointed.” It’s a great line I’ve stolen for my kids too.

BUCK: It works?

CLAY: Oh, it works so well. I remember working like, “I’m not mad at you, I’m just really disappointed” is just a gut punch.

BUCK: Gut punch. That’s how I feel seeing Americans in the biggest city in the country walking around with masks outside. I just thought we were braver and smarter than this as Americans. I’m actually sad because I know now, Clay, a lot of them actually are worried.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: They really do think — and I’m talking about guys who are younger than me, gals who are younger than me out there. They really think that if they don’t have that mask on… By the way, N95s outside now I’m seeing pretty frequently in New York which are really uncomfortable, by the way.

CLAY: I feel super sad. I walk my kids to school, and there are still some people who are choosing to put their kids in masks. I’m not angry about it. Image feel sorry for the kids because they’re being told and taught something that is not true. I saw one of the blue checks bragging about her kid’s reaction to the vaccine being available now.

BUCK: I saw that.

CLAY: Did you see that? The kid’s like between 5 and 11 and the kid is crying with joy, and she was like, “Oh, this is so amazing! I want to share this with everybody,” and the only thing I could think is, “It is child abuse to have convinced young children that they’re in danger of dying of covid when the data doesn’t support it at all,” and yet on social media, that’s the kind of thing that gets cheered. It’s just tough to see in general, Buck. It just really is.

BUCK: Clay, I want to get to the biggest lie Biden told today when we come back. The biggest lie in the speech, an appalling lie, and we’ll get to that in just a moment.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: Biden’s approval rating’s most recent Gallup poll, Buck, down to 43%. He was at 57% according to Gallup in January when he was inaugurated. He’s plummeted as people have gotten more and more used the president that we have in office right now and his failures across the board on virtually every front. But one of the things he ran on was competence, was bringing adulthood back to the White House, and by arguing that he was gonna be honest and trustworthy and not lie.

And he spoke earlier this morning, Buck. And listen to what he said about these Border Patrol agents on horseback. He suggested that they are strapping people, basically whipping people, when that is 100% not the truth. Listen to Joe Biden lying to the American public, dividing us further. Here he is this morning.

BIDEN: Of course I take responsibility! I’m president. But it’s horrible what you see — as you see, to see people treated like they did, horses really running over, people being strapped. It’s outrageous. I promise you, those people will pay. They will be… There will be an investigation underway now, and there will be consequences. There will be consequences. It’s an embarrassment. It’s beyond an embarrassment. It’s dangerous. It’s wrong. It sends the wrong message around the world. It sends the wrong message at home. It’s simply not who we are.

BUCK: It’s beyond embarrassing that Joe Biden lies about this —

CLAY: Multiple days after this happened.

BUCK: — and then makes it worse! This is the leader of the free world, this is the commander-in-chief, who’s essentially threatening Border Patrol members with consequences to be determined for a thing that no person believes actually happened.

CLAY: Not only do we not believe that it happened, the photographer who took the photo, Buck, says of the Border Patrol agents in Del Rio — I imagine most of you have at least seen this story in some way. He says he and his colleagues never saw agents whipping anyone, and the photos are being misconstrued. So literally —

BUCK: That’s a nice way of saying “lied about.” They’re lying about it.

CLAY: Yeah, but the people who took the photo themselves are saying this is an inaccurate representation of what actually happened, and the president’s lying about it. By the way, Buck, you know what’s gonna end up happening, right? Whoever took this photo’s gonna win the Pulitzer Prize, and they’re gonna say, “Oh, my God. This is such an important photo that was taken, because it showed how Draconian and unfair our treatment was of illegal immigrants at the border.

BUCK: At the border, Clay, this is also a window into the Democrat leftist mind. Because even events that don’t happen that they then can fit into a narrative that is pleasing to them to believe or that makes them feel righteous or gives them power, that’s what they will go forward with. It doesn’t matter if it happened or not. What matters is that they can convince some people that it happened and it’s useful. It feels very Soviet, folks, you know, Joe Biden’s supposed to be (impression), “Mr. Truth-Teller! Yeah, sure, you know, no joke.”

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Berenson Sounds the Alarm on Vaccine Ineffectiveness

24 Sep 2021

BUCK: We’ve got our friend Alex Berenson with us now to weigh in on all of this. His new book, Pandemia, is coming out. Get it before the Fauciites start burning those books as soon as they can. Alex, thanks for being with us.

BERENSON: Thanks for having me.

BUCK: So, boosters, my friend! I think last week we talked to you — a week or two weeks ago. I talk to you a fair amount. I was like, they’re gonna do the boosters anyway, and looks like now, now they are. What happened. I thought the CDC was supposed to go along with the experts?

BERENSON: No, it’s incredible. They didn’t get the vote they wanted. The CDC is clearly concerned about this. They’re clearly concerned about long-term side effects. They’re clearly concerned that this is a game that could have ramifications down the road if the virus continues to mutate, and Rochelle just overruled them! It’s incredible.

I think I say this to you every week. Try to imagine if Donald Trump — someone who worked at the CDC under Donald Trump. If Robert Redfield had overruled his own experts this way, imagine what the outcry would be about not following the science and about politicizing everything. But this administration, they can do whatever they want and nobody says anything to them. It’s really incredible.

CLAY: Alex, by the way, we can hear your kids in the background there, which is really gonna harm your reputation as someone who wants everyone’s kids and their grandparents to die, which is what the blue checks would say about you. But question for you: What is the latest data that we’ve got out here about England and Israel and where is it likely to be headed for United States based on that data?

BERENSON: It’s not good. So, the Israelis, they’ve given out boosters to about half the adult population, which is now what the CDC wants to do. I just read a report today in The Times of Israel that the number of people on ventilators is the highest it’s been since March. They still have a tremendous number of new cases every day. They topped out of those a few days ago. And it’s gone down a little bit since then.

But they’re still having the equivalent of a couple hundred thousand cases in the U.S. every day. If this is what you get after using a third booster, which is a second booster, a third dose, which is an experiment that we don’t really have any science behind, the empirical evidence is not good. And then in England, arguably there’s something even more concerning happening.

The Israelis have stopped giving out data on all-cause mortality. That’s counting all deaths. Not just covid, not just heart attacks, everything. It’s the best way to calculate population health. The Israelis stopped giving out that data. But the U.K. is still giving it out. And, unfortunately, all-cause deaths are hitting highs now that, if you exclude covid…

Because covid killed a bunch of people in the winter; we know that. If you exclude covid, all cause deaths are running about 10% above normal and have been for months. And that’s very odd and unusual. And nobody has a really good explanation. And then, if you add covid deaths in, all-cause deaths are now running 20% or 25% above normal, so in the U.K. that’s a couple thousand — one or two thousand — extra deaths a week that they’re having right now.

So, I thought vaccines were supposed to be the miracle. I thought vaccines were supposed to end covid. I thought vaccines were supposed to mean we were all supposed to be able to fly to the Moon and back in 30 seconds. Unfortunately, if you’re looking for positive population-wide effects of the vaccines, about the only thing you can say is that it looks like in the spring they helped reduce covid cases for a while.

Beyond that, yes, it looks like maybe there’s some slightly longer benefit of protection against severe disease and death. But we don’t know how long that lasts, either. So we’ve engaged in this experiment, and we’re still engaging in it, and the data is not backing up what people like Fauci said.

BUCK: Is there any reason…? We’re speaking to Alex Berenson, everybody. If you have not, if you want to get some of his covid research, subscribe to his Substack, because he’s been kicked off of Twitter forever for writing things — if I recall Alex, the tweet was actual entirely correct but you still got kicked off of Twitter.

Going forward here, the booster situation, why should anyone believe…? We’ve asked, by the way, Fauci to come on the show, Alex, and he keeps on trying to dodge, makes it seem like he’s considering it but he won’t come on. Why should anyone believe that this is their last… If their they’re willing to get the booster — and I’ve already saying I’m drawing a line in the sand: No booster. If they’re willing to get the booster, why would they think it’s their last booster?

BERENSON: I have no idea why you’d believe it’s your last booster. It seems very clear that these vaccines don’t produce the kind of broad-scale, B-and T-cell immunity that real infection and recovery does. They sort of give you this booster antibodies, but that does not last. And so we know that your antibodies are gonna decline in any case.

And so whether you have one shot, two shots, or two shots and booster, your antibodies go up and then they decline. And so in a matter of months it’s hard to understand why that wouldn’t happen again. And the Israelis are already talking about a third booster, a fourth shot. By the way — and we’ve talked about this also — there’s this concern that the virus will start to mutate (and it’s already starting to happen with Delta) — away from the boosters, which was designed for the original wild type virus.

And so what that means is at best the booster doesn’t less effective than they hoped that they would be, but at worse, you could get this terrible situation called Antibody Dependent Enhancement where the boosters actually wind up making the infection more — the new variant more — able to attack your cells. I’m not saying that that… (garbled) I’m sorry.

I’m on the West Side right now and I’m alternating between getting into the car and talking to a person, my daughter, and then getting out. So if you hear, it’s traffic and then the baby. But so there’s this possibility — and again, I’m not saying this is going to happen or is likely to happen but if it happened it would be terrible, but people who’ve been vaccinated are actually likely to have a more severe infection than people who aren’t.

So to me the booster seems like a very, very bad bet. At best, it’s gonna reduce your chance of serious infection for a few months and then you are probably gonna have to get it again. At worst, it won’t even do that — and at absolute worst, it might make matters worse.

CLAY: Now, you’ve got an interesting piece right now up on your Substack, and we’re talking to Alex Berenson as he wrangles — as many parents do on a Friday afternoon — around with his young children. I’m fascinated here. There’s a bull and there’s a bear case, right? And I guess it depends on how you define it from the virus’ perspective or the country’s.

Let’s say the bullish case is, from our perspective, that covid’s going to decline. And that’s one of the forecasts that’s out: Covid projected to drop below a hundred deaths a day by March, which would be good. But it would be the exact opposite of what we saw last fall and winter. Do you think we’re headed for, based on all of the evidence that you look at…?

And I know, look, covid made fools of everyone because it’s difficult to predict the future. But based on the data that you are seeing, as we now are into the fall and winter looms, do you think we will see a rise in covid cases through the fall and winter, as opposed to a decline, as is being predicted by some experts?

BERENSON: I do. So the (garbled) is simply this. Everybody is either been vaccinated or has natural immunity at this point. Okay? And that’s true. And you can look actually in the U.K., and there’s data showing that 97% of people have some kind of antibodies that are either natural antibodies or vaccine antibodies. The reason I don’t — and in the U.S., the numbers are probably pretty similar because we vaccinated so many people.

The reason that I don’t think that this is real is that I don’t think vaccine immunity counts, basically. I don’t think it’s gonna last in any meaningful way for people for more than a thing a few months. So I think basically the number of people who’ve been vaccinated doesn’t matter. It only matters how many people have natural immunity at this point — and that’s assuming that the vaccine doesn’t somehow screw up natural immunity.

BUCK: Alex, it seems to me that if the last bastion, as I call it, of Fauciism is that it prevents… We are ’til told, as of today, the vaccine prevents serious illness and death in a very meaningful way. Well, if that’s the case, then why do we need the boosters, right? ‘Cause if it’s just cases —

BERENSON: Yes. But let me just go back to this one second. So let’s just assume that I’m correct and the vaccine doesn’t really prevent infection, and over time the protection against severe disease and death goes to zero, or close to zero.

BUCK: Right.

BERENSON: In that case, then basically all you can look at is the number of people who have been infected and recovered. And so in the U.S. that might be 40% of the population. It might be 50% of the population. People… There are some people out there who think it’s higher than that. I don’t think it’s higher than that. Look at what happened in Florida over the summer, okay?

In Florida over the summer, they had a very significant wave, despite the fact that they had national average vaccination rates, okay? Everybody who talks about DeSantis and criticized him, it’s nonsense. Florida was at the national average. They weren’t Tennessee or Louisiana. They still had a huge wave of cases and deaths. That’s because vaccinations basically…

The protective effect — again, if it’s there at all — is marginal against severe disease and death. That’s what the Israeli data says. That’s what the U.K. data subsist, so I just think we’re gonna have to go through a fall wave where everybody who was vaccinated is gonna get infected. And some of those people are gonna get really sick and die. Some will not.

BUCK: How many people right now, Alex, do you think are having breakthrough cases as a percentage, as of the month of September in the United States leading to hospitalization or death? Do we have any idea?

BERENSON: No, we have no idea. I said this to you last week; you didn’t believe me. I heard from Tucker yesterday; he didn’t believe me. In the U.K. 70% of all the deaths — 70% plus – -are in people who are fully vaccinated right now. What’s the percentage in the U.S.? We do not know. What’s the percentage of people are hospitalized in the U.S. who are breakthrough cases?

We do not know. If the CDC knows, they’re not telling the truth about it. I don’t even think they do know. Our data collection is terrible. It’s politicized. And for whatever reason, they’ve done nothing to improve it; in fact, they’ve made it worse.

CLAY: What does it take for the Biden administration, for Dr. Fauci, for the CDC to start to acknowledge what the data is actually showing us? It seems to me — and I’m curious if you would agree — that they’ve been 60 or 90 days behind or more throughout in terms of their messaging. Is that going to actually happen?

BERENSON: I don’t know! I don’t know what it’s gonna take because they’re so insistent on pushing this. The new line is, “We just need to get 5 to 11 years old vaccinated; get all the teenagers who aren’t vaccinated, vaccinated, then everything will be fine.” Like what…? On what planet do you live? You don’t live on a planet that has Israel and the U.K. on it.

You don’t live on a planet where you’re looking at the actual data from U.S. nursing homes, for example, which are seeing more and more people who are fully vaccinated getting sick and dying. I don’t know what it’s gonna take. And it’s funny. You talked about me being kicked off Twitter and so now I just have the Substack.

Which, again, fortunately, thanks to people like you, people are signing up for the Substack and they are finding me. But somebody tweeted a few days ago — and I thought this was so right — people were willing to sort of put up with me (I’m talking about the Faucis of the world) as sort of the court jester when they didn’t think I was right. So when they thought I was sort of like just some kind of vaccine anti-vax — which, of course, I’m not at all — and was just saying all this stuff about vaccines that weren’t true, they were happy to have me on Twitter.

BUCK: All right. Alex, we gotta leave it there. Check out Alex Berenson’s Substack everybody. Subscribe. I subscribe to it — just full disclosure so you know — and I think Clay does too. Thanks so much, Alex.

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BUCK: Governor Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas. Mr. Governor, thank you for being on with us.

GOV. HUTCHINSON: Hey, it’s great to be with you today. Hope y’all are doing well.

BUCK: We’re doing fine. Thank you, sir. Let’s talk about the border here. I know you’re part of this group of governors who want some answers, and you’re there in Arkansas not far from where all this stuff is going on. Certainly, it really touches on all 50 states in different ways, the open border. So, tell me: What would you like to see happen here, and how does Arkansas play into it?

GOV. HUTCHINSON: Well, first of all, it’s amazing to have 26 governors join together in a letter to the president expressing concern about the border, and these are governors from Arizona all the way up to Massachusetts. And so it does impact our state because, one, we all look at this and we can’t have integrity in our border, in our immigration system without enforcing the law.

Secondly, the fentanyl, the drugs that come through the border impact each one of our states, certainly Arkansas being close there. And so we have sent our National Guard to the border to be supportive, and we want to continue to do that. The first thing the administration needs to do is to make sure that the Border Patrol is supported and not be critical of them.

CLAY: What do you think, Governor…? You know the importance and the impact of the bully pulpit that Joe Biden has and certainly that Kamala Harris has as well. When you see them falsely spreading the narrative that basically there was a whipping going on, they’re banning horses now in Del Rio over viral photographs which even the photographers themselves say don’t reference or reflect what has being alleged — how much are they failing the American public and the Border Patrol by spreading these falsehoods?

GOV. HUTCHINSON: Well, tremendously. And I’ve looked at the pictures, and people can make different judgments and maybe they’re not seeing everything; so it can… It’s fine to be reviewed. It should be reviewed. But first of all, you should not stop the Border Patrol from using horses from that’s an important part of their equipment, of their capability of protecting the border, and so that is common sense.

I was in the Bush administration in charge border security, and I know how important the Border Patrol is, and they need to have different technologies and the utilization of old technologies like horses in order to get the job done. And so, you don’t want to undermine their confidence. They’re working hard. They’re devoting themselves, putting themselves at risk, and you can’t have an administration that undermines them.

And so, I think it was a wrong message, again. We’ve got to be able to send a powerful message and reverse the trend that we’re seeing that basically this administration has encouraged those from other countries to come through our border illegally. That’s what has to stop.

BUCK: Speaking to Governor Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas. Governor, how is…? We just talked to a friend of ours who follows the covid numbers generally very closely and just the overall trajectory of this pandemic. How is Arkansas doing? What are your expectations for your state over the next 60 to 90 days when it comes to covid, and what do you think about the reversal from the Biden administration on the CDC and the booster shots?

GOV. HUTCHINSON: Well, first of all, Arkansas was on the front end of the Delta variant. And so now our cases are going down. And our hospitalizations are going down, and so we are, hopefully, on the downward trend of the Delta variant. Now, this coronavirus has given us a curve every other day, and so we don’t know what the future holds; so you continue to take it seriously.

I believe in vaccinations. I’ve encouraged them across the state. Our vaccination rate is going up. But what we’ve seen from the CDC is confusing the messages. I applaud actually Dr. Walensky for not accepting the recommendation of the advisory committee but making an independent judgment that we can have our front-line medical workers go ahead and get the booster shot.

This was common sense. And what I’m disappointed in is that the FDA has not moved more quickly on some of this, has been inconsistent their messaging. Hopefully that can improve because these booster shots are important, and we do have those vaccines. We’re doing everything we can to get those out because I think that’s what’s gonna allow us to go to football games and do everything we want to this fall.

GOV. HUTCHINSON: (chuckles) Arkansas’s gonna squeak it through. Our team is up. Coach Pittman has done a remarkable job with them. That’s a difficult environment for us. The Jerry Jones’s stadium there, AT&T Stadium. We haven’t won lately there. But I think this year is different. So I’m optimistic about a win, but we know it’s gonna be a hard fought battle but we’ll be ready for it.

BUCK: Governor Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas, thanks for being with us, sir. We appreciate it.

GOV. HUTCHINSON: Always great to be with you. Thanks so much.

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CLAY: This clip that we’re about to play you is from Arizona State University. So there are two white kids that are studying in the Multicultural Center. One of them has a sticker that says “Police Lives Matter” on his laptop, and the other one —

BUCK: I believe that to be a very true statement. I believe Police Lives Matter.

CLAY: I am in favor of police not dying. Does not seem to be a ridiculous perspective to adopt. So someone in the Multicultural Center walks up and confronts these two white students and says that basically their being present in the Multicultural Center is unacceptable. But also, that their having the opinion that “Police Lives Matter” is offensive.

BUCK: We’re not even… We can’t do this justice. People just need to hear it.

CLAY: Yeah, this is real. Play it.

This video from Arizona State is insane. pic.twitter.com/fDdGzaZVCf

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) September 24, 2021

BUCK: “You are promoting our murder.” Clay, notice that the use of jargon, the language there, and when you hear the way it just so quickly flows from these college kids, “the cis, white male,” all this kind of stuff. This is like what you hear indoctrinated youth in a country that has gone totalitarian saying mindless, moronic slogans and thinking that it’s profound and important.

CLAY: And remember, this woman is filming these white guys in the Multicultural Center as if she is in the right. Not only is she behaving — you just heard that video — in a thoroughly reprehensible manner. Kicking someone out of a location on campus because of their race is the foundation of racism. Just because she’s black and doing it doesn’t mean that it’s okay. And then to argue that he’s not entitled to his perspective and immediately to go to “you’re racist for having that perspective” while filming this guy, trying to dox and embarrass him.

BUCK: To shame him. This is meant to shame him.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: No question. And, Clay, notice one of the two woke students here saying that “they,” meaning cops, “kill people like us.” This reminds me of the same brainwashed leftist mentality you have around covid where people think — young people think — that they’re 50 times more likely to be hospitalized and die than they are.

CLAY: Thousands! Thousands of cops are killing black people every day.

BUCK: Young minorities in this country are being told by the left… I mean, if you were to ask — you could run this experiment — how many unarmed black men are shot in any given year in this country, for example? A lot of leftists would start saying, “Thousands.”

CLAY: Thousands.

BUCK: “At least hundreds.” Very few of them would say, “Nine, maybe 15,” depending on the recent year we’re talking about.

CLAY: And to your point, “unarmed” does not mean without danger because you could be unarmed and choking somebody to death. You could be unarmed.

BUCK: Right. If someone’s reaching for my sidearm, I consider them armed.

CLAY: Yes, you could be unarmed and trying to go get in a car to get a weapon, right? All of these things, usually when you look at them, there is a real clear and present danger afoot. But it’s, again, what we were talking about yesterday with the whips and the way that the Biden administration has tried to portray something that didn’t happen on the border.

It’s anecdote destroying good decisions, right? The border, we need security. Oh, there’s a guy on a horse who’s trying to do his job. We can’t have horses anymore! Oh, we have one police officer who may have behaved in a criminal manner. All police officers are bad. It’s anecdote-driven culture designed to build up a narrative that isn’t supported by the actual data.

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24 Sep 2021

CLAY: Well, Andrew Cuomo lost his job for sexual harassment, and today there is a New York Times guest essay that is headlined: “Chris Cuomo…” That, of course, is Chris Cuomo of CNN. “Chris Cuomo Sexually Harassed Me. I hope He’ll Use His Power to Make Change.” The woman who is writing this is Shelley Ross. She was a television journalist and former executive producer at ABC and CBS.

Her article here, her essay begins, “I was Chris Cuomo’s boss at ABC News nearly two decades ago,” and she says that she was sexually harassed. She’s writing this in the context of Governor Andrew Cuomo’s incident. She says that she was harassed by Chris Cuomo back in 2005, and here are the details, Buck. I’m curious. Is this or should this be a significant punishment, maybe even a lost job?

She says she doesn’t want him to lose his job. She says that she doesn’t believe when he claims that he profoundly is concerned about sexual harassment based on his own behavior. So she publishes this email, which is kind of strange, I think, that she saved the email. But this is from June 1st of 2005. What happened…

I’ll read you the email in a sec, but what happened was he showed up, according to her… He showed up at a party. She was an executive producer of an ABC entertainment special. And before that, she had been the executive producer of Cuomo’s show. And she says she “was at the party with my husband who sat behind me on an ottoman sipping his Diet Coke as I spoke with work friends. When Mr. Cuomo entered…”

Again, this is Chris Cuomo, the CNN anchor. “When Mr. Cuomo entered the Upper West Side bar, he walked towards me, greeted me with a strong bear hug, while lowering one hand to firmly grab and squeeze the cheek of my butt. Then he said, ‘I can do this now that you’re no longer my boss.'” She says he said it “with a cocky arrogance.”

She said, “No, you can’t,” and then she stepped back to show that her husband had seen the entire thing. She says they quickly left, and then he sent an email, saying, “Now that I think of it, I’m ashamed, though my hearty greeting was a function of being glad to see you,” which sounds a bit like what Andrew Cuomo has said before.

“Christian Slater got arrested for a kind of similar act, and as a husband, I can empathize with not liking to see my wife patted as such. So pass along my apology to your very good and noble husband, and I apologize to you as well for even putting you in such a position. Next time, I will remember the lesson no matter how happy I am to see you.”

BUCK: Okay. Okay. Oookay.

CLAY: That’s the context, Buck. For people out there who may not have heard it, I wanted to lay it out.

BUCK: So there’s a few things, a few things that come to mind here right away, Clay. I know we’re both gonna have some thoughts on this. First of all, once again, the guys who are the ones always running around pretending to be “male feminists” and huge advocates of the #MeToo movement publicly speaking? Guys who treat women with respect don’t have to walk around talk about it and —

CLAY: Bragging about how much.

BUCK: — how he respects women, you know? It’s just… You either do or you don’t in the workplace, and the guys who… I would note, even in New York, obviously, Andrew Cuomo resigned, the attorney general for the state of New York, if memory serves, was Schneiderman. He also had a #MeToo incident where he was abusive and horrible to a girlfriend. And that came out. I don’t know if you remember this from a few years back in New York.

CLAY: And you believe so Eliot Spitzer. There’s been a lot of dudes in power in New York.

BUCK: But Schneiderman specifically was almost like Justin Trudeau level, “I am a male feminist and I’m going to stand up for women in the #MeToo era.” Total scum this guy, right? So people that make a big deal of it you always should think, “Hmm, I don’t think you should have to say you respect women.” The part of this that was…

I just saw headline and I remember you told me the story, the details. The part of this that’s the most troubling — and there’s a few — is first of all, you don’t walk up and squeeze somebody’s butt because you’re excited to see them, you know what I mean? This is not something that happens. People make jokes that might be a little appropriate, sometimes people say something they think could be taken two ways.

Squeezing the butt is not a thing that just happens — and beyond that, doing it in front of a married woman’s husband? This is the kind of thing where if he took a swing at him and there was a tooth on the ground afterwards and I was on the jury, I’d be like, “Can’t squeeze a guy’s lady’s butt. Sorry.”

CLAY: First of all, the fact that she remembers that he’s drinking a Diet Coke. She’s so enfeebled this husband of hers, right? (summarized) “My husband was sitting behind me drinking a Diet Coke, and then this man walks in and grabs my butt, and we were so upset we just left, and he didn’t say anything”? I’m just trying to put myself in that situation. If somebody walked up and grabbed my wife in a bear hug and grabbed her ass in front of me, at an absolute bare minimum, you would confront the guy and be saying, “Hey…”

BUCK: Let’s also just tell everybody, Mrs. Travis would throw a roundhouse herself.

CLAY: Oh, yes. Yes. She would not stand for it. Maybe my answer would be I would just let her like tee off on the idea. I’m actually kind of curious what women would think of this scenario. I think there are several things that are strange here. One, again, the fact that he did this. Two, the fact that she saved his email from 16 years ago.

BUCK: What do you make of that? By the way, if she accepted his apology then, why bring it up now?

CLAY: Yeah. To me, there’s a statute of limitations. It’s a little bit like you’re saving it in case you need something later. Right?

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: And so it’s like Monica Lewinsky with the blue dress.

BUCK: That was a shorter time. (laughs) That was pretty quick.

CLAY: Understood. But you talk to most women and they’re like, “Oh, she saved the dress with the stain on it?” That’s a super-weird thing to do. That’s always been to me the strangest thing about the entire Monica story, because she was saving that for a reason, maybe because she wanted to be able to use it against Bill Clinton in the future to have proof of it. All of that. But the fact that you would save an email 16 years old and then go public in the New York Times?

BUCK: And this whole thing she doesn’t want him to get fired? I can I understand she’s gonna say so she doesn’t seem vindictive 15 years later. But look, he shouldn’t have done it. Bad thing to do. He did apologize. His apology could have been a little… “I’m happy to see you…”

CLAY: Also, maybe don’t write the apology in an email?

BUCK: Well, I think people have become — just in general — much more cognizant of everything they sent electronically now. I feel like in the early 2000s it was, “Eh, ou send an email, it goes through the inner webs and maybe…”

CLAY: Yeah, 2005 maybe he wasn’t thinking that she was gonna save it. But to send an email admitting that you did it? Because otherwise it’s just a he said, she said; 16 years ago, I didn’t do this.

BUCK: This is confirmed because, by the way, if someone says they have an email from you that they didn’t the easiest thing in the world would be say that’s a fake email. Clearly —

CLAY: I don’t think he’s commented on this yet, has he?

BUCK: No. The facts are not in dispute. It’s gonna be interesting to see how this is handled. I have a sense that first we have to remember, he already had to go out there, Chris Cuomo, and do the whole apology over coordinating with his brother while a journalist while interviewing his brother as a host on CNN for the help with him on the PR side.

And I will say, I would do anything for my brother, so I actually didn’t blame him for that at all. But it just goes to show you CNN is a joke. But this issue… CNN is essentially a kingdom ruled by Jeff Zucker. Whatever he decides is what will happen there. That’s the way it goes.

CLAY: Buck, CNN banned me for saying that I believed “in the First Amendment and boobs.” They wouldn’t allow me to appear on their network ’cause they said it was disrespectful.

BUCK: You got a lifetime ban from CNN. That’s like a friend of mine who had a lifetime ban from going back to Iran after he wrote about it. That’s amazing, by the way.

CLAY: Yeah, but so, if your standard is a guy can’t come on to your network and give his opinion in kind of a lighthearted, jocular way, then I don’t know how… Let me say this. I am fundamentally opposed to cancel culture. I hate the idea that you can have done something 16 years ago; that somebody can save it, and decide to deploy it against you nearly a generation later, and say you don’t deserve to have your job.

BUCK: And, by the way, pretending that it’s not being… Let’s actually unpack this part of it a little bit. She wants him to use his platform for change? Come on. What does that even mean?

CLAY: I agree.

BUCK: That to me seems a little self-indulgent here. It’s like if you wanted there to be consequences, you had a long time to bring this up and deal with it, and I agree with you. At what point are we willing to say, “There has to be…” Even if the other side will not forgive anything on our side… I know that happens never, but at some point, we have to start saying to everybody, “If you’re gonna find something that was texted or written 20 years ago by someone and say that now they should get fired, it better be really bad.”

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BUCK: Lillian in Wisconsin. A mom of three. What’s up, Lillian?

CALLER: Actually, I’m a mom of four but I have three sons, and, yeah, this does bother me because for someone to go back like they did with Justice Kavanaugh and bring up stuff that you could have dealt with at the time, it’s just not right and it concerns me for my own sons. So —

CLAY: As a woman saving it for 16 years and then deploying it now? I see your argument. My wife and I have these conversations, too, ’cause when the Kavanaugh hearings were going on, I was saying, “Okay you can have your opinion as a woman which is interesting, but also you’ve got three sons. How would you want them to be treated if they did something when they were teenagers?”

BUCK: This is also what you see — and thank you so much, Lillian — Clay, this is what you see with moms who have college-age sons who feel very, very differently than what we are led believe women generally think in this country about these campus tribunals.

CLAY: Oh, it’s crazy. You can’t even cross-examine —

BUCK: Both people were drunk and the girl the next day is saying, “Oh, I had such a great time last night,” and then a month later… These kind of cases —

CLAY: Happens all the time.

BUCK: My college Amherst, by the way, has been in the headlines for a number of really egregious, Title IX tribunals.

CLAY: We’re not talking about criminal investigations. We’re talking about on-campus investigations which are kangaroo courts and a lot of moms have gotten fed up about this because, again, everybody’s been in college, alcohol’s involved. The day after, everybody’s fine and then, like you said, couple of days, weeks, months later somebody decides, “Hey, actually I was assaulted,” and then the kid gets kicked out. The man, the boy gets kicked out of school.

BUCK: Let me ask you this: If you’re Jeff Zucker, which that’s an interesting thing just to begin with. If you’re Zucker over at CNN, do you take any action against Cuomo over this? I’ll tell you… Well, you go first.

CLAY: (big sigh) The problem with taking action, from my perspective, if you’re an executive, is you set the precedent, if anybody that has ever been employed by you has done anything over the last 16 years — and let me say this. They let, they let what’s his name come back after he got caught!

BUCK: Oh, yeah, Toobin.

CLAY: Toobin masturbated on a Zoom call with his New Yorker colleagues, and CNN let him back! So if I’m Chris Cuomo, I’m like, “Wait, you let the guy who masturbated in front of his female coworkers continue to be a legal expert at CNN but you are firing me for something that happened 16 years ago?”

BUCK: He’s definitely not gonna get fired. I’ll just say, “Look, ’cause I’m not a leftist, I just don’t want to go around destroying people’s lives all the time because I get some kind of glee ’cause I’m a miserable person as unfortunately so many people on the left actually are,” which is a whole other conversation. I don’t think that this guy… She says he shouldn’t be fired. I say he shouldn’t be fired, and let’s get real here, folks. But it does go to a mentality here and, you know, there’s some interesting conversational pieces of this.

CLAY: I think it makes her husband look like a total wuss. That’s the person who I think emerges here, looking the — like your wife right in front of you, a guy walked up and grabbed her ass, and you were like, oh, we better leave this party now, like, that’s your reaction?

BUCK: Yeah. Not good. Not helping him out. That’s for sure. Natalie in Scottsdale, Arizona,’s got some thoughts on this one. Hey, Natalie.

CALLER: I can’t stand Chris Cuomo. I’ll just say it that way but when something happens and then you bring up 15, 20 years down the road, if it affected you that badly, why are you waiting that long? That’s ridiculous. As a mother, I have three sons. As a mother, it is very concerning because when you’re young you’re a teenager, yeah, you might say or do something stupid, especially when drinking is involved, all that kind of stuff.

But something 15, 20 years down the road? Clearly did not affect you that deeply. That’s ridiculous. And I’ll tell you, if I was in that woman’s shoes and Chris Cuomo had grabbed me like that, he wouldn’t have been eating very long. He would have been… (giggles) He would have had his jaw wired shut for six months.

BUCK: Whoa, Natalie, Natalie’s got a right hinge apparently too.

CLAY: I think a woman that would have physically reacted. Again, we don’t know what their relationship is, but the thing that’s the weirdest about this to me is saving it for 16 years and then deploying it on editorial page of the New York Times.

BUCK: You don’t want there to be real… At a minimum there’s reputational embarrassment here.

CLAY: And you saved the email like you were planning to be able to deploy this at some point in time in blackmail.

BUCK: And give me back with the sanctimony here. “He should use his platform for change.” Yeah, I’m sure. Everyone’s gonna turn to Chris — everybody’s gonna turn to Bro Cuomo when he’s not, like, taking Matrix shakes or whatever.

CLAY: When he’s working on his lats.

BUCK: When he’s not getting his macros in before he goes out there to throw the kettle bells around or whatever, which, by the way, that’s all great, and I should do more of it. But this guy puts a lot of the videos of himself doing these things out there. I don’t know if you’re aware of this. I don’t think he’s the guy to go to for necessarily the H.R. woke compliance actions in the workplace.

CLAY: I wish I was super ripped, but I think it would be weird if I were super ripped. After three or four, what are you so ripped for?

BUCK: When I was in Iraq, I’ll never forget this Navy SEAL. One of the older Navy SEALs told me once, “Look, if you’re over 40 and you have a six-pack, I don’t know if I trust you.” (laughing)

CLAY: It’s a great line.

BUCK: I was kind of like that’s interesting. “Yeah, I don’t know if I trust you.”

CLAY: Who are you staying so ripped for?

BUCK: Now we’re gonna hear from all the 60 years olds who listen to this show who have 8 packs for abs.

CLAY: Well, they claim to have 8 packs. If there’s any 65-year-olds with 8 packs, good for you.

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CLAY: The people on The View, they do a live show. I think it’s on ABC or maybe it’s syndicated. I don’t really know. I haven’t watched it that much, ever. But they were preparing to interview Kamala Harris, and before they interviewed the vice president, they were going after everyone who was unvaccinated with the continued lamentations of the uneducated.

As if, “Oh, if everybody gets vaccinated, covid just goes away. It’s all the unvaccinated people’s fault even though the data doesn’t reflect that,” and, by the way, Buck, I don’t know if you agree with this: I think Joy Behar may be the dumbest person who’s on television, on a daily basis, in terms of what she says.

BUCK: Strong contender.

CLAY: I genuinely question her intelligence.

BUCK: Strong contender. Some other names come to mind, but I gotta tell you: Her brand is to (impression) “say the dumbest things imaginable on television.”

CLAY: Every time I see her say anything, it is the most colossally wrong and unintelligent take that you could possibly have on virtually every subject. What was she? Was she a comedian? How did she end up with that job?

BUCK: Yes, she was a comedian for a long time, and she’s still a comedian without intending to be whenever she speaks about American politics or really anything, for that matter.

CLAY: So we’re gonna play a couple of clips for you. This just happened in the last couple of hours, last hour or so. The View was getting ready for their Kamala Harris event, their interview, and they have a producer walk out and let them know that two of the hosts have tested positive or have to be removed from the set; then, I think, we get an explanation. Let me go ahead and start with the first conversation here.

BEHAR: There seems to be something happening here that I’m not 100% aware of. Can someone please apprise me of the situation?

PRODUCER: I need, uhh, the two of you to step off for a second.

NAVARRO: Okay.

BEHAR: Ana and —

PRODUCER: We’re gonna bring you back later.

BEHAR: — and — and — and Sunny have to leave.

HOSTIN: Okay.

NAVARRO: Yes.

BEHAR: And we’ll tell you why.

PRODUCER: More information later. It’s a tease.

BEHAR: We’ll tell you why in a couple of minutes. So shall I introduce the vice president?

PRODUCER: Yes. Vice President —

VOICE: No!

BEHAR: No. Shall we dance? Let’s do a tap dance.

CROWD: (laughter and applause)

BEHAR: What?

PRODUCER: Let’s go to commercial and we’ll come back.

BEHAR: As we always do in television when we’re in a tight spot, “We’ll be right back.” (cackles)

CLAY: That’s live.

BUCK: Yeah. We do live radio. They do live TV so when you’re live, you’re live, and stuff happens. So, they had two of the hosts before… Clay, also, what is going on here? I guess they wanted… Look, we’re talking about it; so maybe that’s the whole plan, right?

They had tests of the hosts for covid before Kamala Harris appeared. Now, I would bet that all of these hosts are vaccinated, right? So start with that. So they’re vaccinated but still being tested because it’s only one in 5,000, as Biden says, that you’ll have a breakthrough infection.

CLAY: It seems like there’s an awful lot of breakthrough infections for one in 5,000.

BUCK: Seems real weird I have friends. You know people here in New York City who are vaccinated and gotten sick.

CLAY: — and you don’t know 5,000 people.

BUCK: So it feels a little weird, but, yeah, turns out that Ana Navarro and you have a Sunny Hostin, two of the hosts on The View, tested positive for covid, and I say, “These are two ladies who are on a show that on a regular basis is essentially looking down on — well, Trump voters, period, but also — Trump voters who they say won’t get vaccinated because they deny science and they also make this into a moral question,” right?

Whenever someone who’s vaccinated on the other team gets infected with the virus, there’s this assumption of, “Yeah, well, you got it because you didn’t listen to Fauci!” I mean, a hundred, 150 million people have been infected with this virus. At what point do we drop the “what did you do to get virus?” idiocy that comes from the Fauciites?

CLAY: Let’s listen to. They came back from commercial break, Buck, and announced that both of those two women who they had removed had tested positive for covid. This is what it sounded like.

BEHAR: Okay. So, since this is gonna be a major news story any time now, what happened is that Sunny and Anna both apparently tested positive for covid. No matter how hard we try, these things happen. They probably have a breakthrough case because they’re both vaccinated up the wazoo, you know, a lot of vaccines. So — and the vice president is being prepped for her arrival, right? They cleaned the table, we washed the hands, everybody’s getting all cleaned up, and she’ll be out here in a second.

CLAY: Okay, so it’s —

BUCK: So they’re “vaccinated up the wazoo,” as she says, as if your love of masks and vaccines is an extra layer of protection in and of itself. If you worship at the altar of Fauciism, Clay are you more protected? How do you get vaccinated up the…? Oh, I mean —

CLAY: That would be a tough place to be getting vaccinated, I think. But let’s break this down a little bit more. Because all this is very strange. So if you wanted to daily test… First of all, let’s start here. The breakthrough rate is way more than one in 5,000, because I bet just about every single person listening to us knows someone who has been vaccinated that has also been tested positive for covid.

And certainly there have been a ton of celebrities who have. But if you’re daily testing still for covid even though they’ve been vaccinated, why would you daily test in a way that you get results in the middle of a life television program?

BUCK: Well, because it obviously creates opportunity, I guess, for the on-air drama that we saw.

CLAY: Do you think they’re planning this?

BUCK: It seems very weird that maybe there are some kind of a delay, you know, they have those 15-minute tests. Maybe it was more like an hour, a two-hour delay. I don’t know. I remember the first time I went to the White House to speak to Trump in — well, the first time was the White House, but the last time I meant in the White House to speak to Trump in the spring of 2020 they had these 15-minute rapid meets.

CLAY: I had to do that too.

BUCK: Everybody, everybody had to do it before you went in. So I guess if you’re around the VP. But notice how they’re all vaccinated, and two of them… What are the chances that two people —

CLAY: Half of them.

BUCK: — that half of the hosts (I guess it’s hostesses or hosts, whatever) of The View happen to have covid at this stage when the vice president is coming? They’re just part of the one-in-5,000 chance that we’ve been told about, right? This is where you start to say, “Something’s not right.” Clay, we know the vaccines lose efficacy over time.

I do think what you’re seeing here is a desperation for people to move into the next phase of Fauciism before it becomes too clear that if you got vaccinated in, like, March or April, come this wintertime, you’re basically just maybe have a slightly better window of protection against death than everybody else, but that’s it. You’re gonna get sick.

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