Ă—

Clay and Buck

For a better experience,
download and use our app!

With Clay Away, Buck Flies Solo on Open Line Friday

3 Sep 2021

BUCK:  I am solo today. Clay off on vacation. He’s having a great time.  Hopefully, getting some much earned rest and relaxation. And Open Line Friday still in effect, of course.

Listen to Buck with Our Open Line Friday Callers:

Recent Stories

Get Password Hint

Enter your email to receive your password hint.

Need help? Contact customer service.

Forgot password

Enter your e-mail to receive your account information via e-mail.

Need help? Contact customer service.

Rush When Obama Declared the Afghanistan War Over

3 Sep 2021

Be sure to listen daily to Rush’s Timeless Wisdom podcast here or on iHeartRadio. It’s absolutely essential information from America’s Forever Anchorman.

Recent Stories

EIB 24/7: Clay & Buck’s Stack of Stuff

3 Sep 2021

Recent Stories

Clay Talks Green New Deal, Politics in Sports on Hannity

3 Sep 2021

Clay visited Sean Hannity’s show to talk about the Dems’ renewed Green New Deal push and politics in sports.

Watch It Here:

Recent Stories

Rogan Catches Covid, Comes Under Attack

2 Sep 2021

BUCK: Joe Rogan — who Clay and I both agree, now we really got to have him on, Clay.

CLAY: No doubt.

BUCK: Absolutely. Joe Rogan, we’re putting out the Bat symbol, but it’s the Joe symbol — or I get the Rogan symbol, because we don’t want people to think it’s Biden. You got to come on and talk to us about this. He came down with covid — which I’ve had and Clay has had and I’m sure a lot of you have had — but the media is using this as an opportunity to push the whole Fauciite narrative into overdrive.

And there’s a lot of hysteria, exaggeration, dishonesty around this. And we want to break down what’s real, what’s not. What you should know, and what is just flatly untrue. But let’s just get to… Here’s a very famous podcaster. I think he’s probably the biggest podcast in the United States right now, which I suppose in the world. Here he is saying, yeah, he got covid.

ROGAN: Turns out I got covid. So we immediately threw the kitchen sink at it. All kinds of meds. Monoclonal antibodies. Ivermectin. Z-Pak. Prednisone. Everything. And I also got an NAD drip and a vitamin drip, and I did that three days in a row, and so here we are on Wednesday, and I feel great.

BUCK: Clay, everything that he has said there, you could say is entirely within the protocol of normal and defensible, plenty people have done it. The point, though, that the media is freaking out about is specifically ivermectin, which I took when I had covid. Not because I thought it was a miracle cure, but because a doc that I was working with, said, “Look, it’s very safe and it may help.” Clay, they’re acting like ivermectin is some crazy horse wormer, that no one should ever take for any reason. It’s reckless.

 

View this post on Instagram

 

A post shared by Joe Rogan (@joerogan)

CLAY: That’s what all of the headlines, in fact, are saying, Buck — and look, when I had covid, I had a very mild case. I didn’t take anything. One day, I had a 99-degree fever. It was a Sunday. I kicked up and watched even more NFL football than I ordinarily would. The next day, I didn’t have a fever anymore. I have all the home studios, so I was able to continue to work. I didn’t miss a day of work.

But I didn’t need to have any treatment, other than what I normally would do if I got a virus, 24-hour virus. Didn’t feel great but didn’t feel awful for one day. But the headlines for Joe Rogan, they are treating this like he is a madman for what he is giving himself. And also — and this is what I think is the biggest story. Because we’re also going to talk about Candace Owens, who we had on the show. She wanted to get a covid test in Aspen. We’ll get to that in a moment.

But the underlying story — and we didn’t talk about it, but it was a big story in conservative talk radio on a certain level. Phil Valentine, who does a show in the Nashville area, got covid and ended up dying of it. The amount of people out there who think of themselves as empathetic, think of themselves as the elite of the American media, who react with glee any time somebody gets covid… I mean, there are a lot of people out there, Buck, that would be very happy if Joe Rogan got covid, one; and, two, they want him to get deathly ill and/or even die, because they don’t think he’s been sufficiently alarmist as it pertains to covid.

BUCK: Well, we haven’t even discussed yet, what his original sin was in the eyes of the media, which is that he said that young, healthy, low-risk people shouldn’t be forced to get the vaccine, which is true, but also enrages the Fauciite fascists.

CLAY: Which is correct. That’s right.

BUCK: This is just one example of it, Clay. MSNBC — which we know, lunatic stuff there all the time; hard to parody MSNBC. Headline here: “Podcast host Joe Rogan says he has covid-19 and used ivermectin, a drug typically used on livestock that health experts have urged the public to avoid.” Let’s just dig into that in one second.

CLAY: That’s the headline.

BUCK: That would be the word-for-word headline. Ivermectin is a drug that is on par with things like penicillin, with antimalarial drugs, has saved millions of lives, likely over the last 50 years. It’s an antiparasitic medication that the discoverer of got Nobel Science Prize for. That’s how much of a monumental discovery. But they’re telling people, “The experts say avoid it!” No. There’s actually a lot of very good reasons to take ivermectin and it’s an incredibly safe drug.

So if people wanted to just, Clay, take a shot with it, the chance of it having any ill effect is very, very small and maybe — maybe, because of in vitro testing — it might be helpful against the virus’ replication at some level. That’s the theory. They’re talking about it like it’s some crazy horse drug that only maniacs take.

CLAY: Yeah, and they’re talking about it like he’s got a syringe that he went into a horse stall, right, and took? And it was like, “Oh, we were going to inject Secretariat with this ivermectin. Instead, Joe Rogan went and grabbed it and injected it himself.” This goes to the essence the way that “experts” are treated, and I’m putting experts in quotation marks here. Because I don’t know that there’s ever been a time where you can read more headlines, Buck…

And you and I will text them back and forth and legitimately roll your eyes that anyone could have ever written a headline for an article like this. Because what it’s about attempting to do, is make you and me and other people — who I think are actually in the mainstream, right? We have a lot more in common with most people in America right now as we are dealing with covid, than the people out there who are going to mask for the rest of their lives, the people who are terrified that they’re going to die. And what’s going to really make them upset is Joe Rogan is back to normal already! He’s fine, like almost everybody who gets covid and is otherwise healthy will be. Are there exceptions? Yes, but the vast majority of healthy people are fine if they get covid.

BUCK: But there’s also a recklessness in the way they talk about Joe Rogan’s protocol. They did the same thing when they were cutting down on Ron DeSantis in Florida. They’re act like monoclonal antibodies or something, “Oh, why are you pushing those?” Because it works really well. Because it actually helps people get better a lot faster. And you will not even get the little fascist lab coat tyrant Fauci to go on TV and say otherwise.

But they always downplay the monoclonal antibodies. Because, Clay, you take that, what do you get? Natural immunity. And if you believe that you’re at low risk and you can get monoclonal antibodies, maybe your risk parameters for whether you want to get the vaccine or not change. And we know this is the one-size fits all. You must get the shot — forever, by the way, continuously — or else. Everything else falls by the wayside.

CLAY: And this is just a fundamental level of dishonesty. Joe Rogan is getting attacked like crazy which, honestly, I think it’s going to work in favor of people like you and me, because Joe Rogan has a big audience. We’ve got a big audience. Every time we get attacked unfairly, our audience grows. It’s great advertisement. Right? Because people are like… Some people don’t know we exist. Some people don’t know that Joe Rogan exists.

There are people listening to us right now that would have no idea that Joe Rogan existed. We played that clip, and they think, “You know, that’s a reasonable response to an adult getting covid. I’m going to go check out some of the other things that guy is saying,” and ultimately, this is how we win, Buck. I know we have this discussion a lot. And there’s different ideas of how you win.

But we live in a country, where 40% of people are going to believe that white supremacy is the biggest threat to American life in America today. They’re just going to believe. It’s hard to persuade those 40% they’re wrong. Forty percent are going to be smart, in my opinion, and agree with what I say. We have to win the other 20. This, to me, is how we win the other 20, and how we kick ass.

BUCK: I completely agree with you, and it’s essential to continue to show everybody that that the so-called consensus on covid from the apparatus of the Democrat-corporate media, the Democrat Party, the CDC, the federal bureaucracy, they say things that are wrong and do not own up to it. They mislead people constantly and never admit it. These are areas… When you see people who are lying to you, take note of it.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: When you see people who do not admit mistakes, that’s important. That’s a data point all on its own. They have been completely unwilling to do that, and the crazy, hysterical attacks on Rogan, show you how important narrative is. Instead of saying, “Joe Rogan is sick. Hey, everybody, notice how he takes monoclonal antibodies. That’s really effective and could probably save the lives of a lot of people hearing this if they get this early treatment.”

It’s also why Ron DeSantis wants everybody in Florida to know about it. Everybody knows about the vaccine. Not everybody knows about monoclonal antibodies. No, Clay, they push the narrative, and the mindset — which I know you want to talk about in a second — manifests in not only, “Do this or else,” but now it’s turning into, “Do what we say, or we won’t treat you. You don’t get medical assistance, Candace Owens.”

CLAY: Yes, which is a fantastic tease, and that is what we’re going to talk about in the next segment. Because ultimately, this is about taking away your freedom and trying to punish you for whatever you are doing that goes against the mainstream. And that’s probably the wrong word. But the elite left-wing idea.

Recent Stories

Podcaster Liz Wheeler on the California Recall

2 Sep 2021

BUCK: We’re joined by our friend Liz Wheeler. She’s the host of the Liz Wheeler Show. She’s a Californian, and she’s got a lot to tell us about where this whole recall effort stands. Liz, thanks so much.

WHEELER: Thanks so much for having me. It’s great to be here.

BUCK: All right. So first up, how did we get here? I mean, this guy probably had a little Cuomo envy back in the day because he wasn’t getting quite the love that Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York was. But that went from liberals holding him up as the great Golden State hero of the pandemic to now he might lose his job before his term is up. What brought us to this point?

WHEELER: Right, and what’s worse here is he might lose his job, and it’s not just a matter of Republican voters trying to reject a Democratic governor. These are voters from across the aisle, Democrat and Republican, liberal and conservative, who are fed up. I mean, this is a guy… This is a hypocrite who went out dining at the French Laundry when he shut down restaurants that resulted in 14,000 restaurants across the state closing permanently, never able to reopen their doors.

He sent his children to private school when he was forcing kids across the state to go to this Zoom school. I mean, this guy is terrible, and it is interesting to see how we got here. But what’s scarier, I think, is to look at what this election means. Not just for California, but for our country. Because I think… And I’m sorry to say this in a sense. But I think that this recall is a bellwether for our entire nation.

Not just a bellwether, but for how the American people — the citizens of the state and the citizens of our country — will react in the face of these tyrannical mandates, these lockdowns, these dictates that we face. At what point are they going to say, stop? It’s not just a bellwether of our limits. It’s a bellwether that politicians are going to use as a gauge of how far they can push us, and we’ve seen examples of that in California, I think.

Right now, up in Sacramento, the Democrats are underhandedly basically gleefully planning a vaccine mandate bill, which they claim is necessary to save lives. But they’re not going to push this until after the recall election, which obviously contradicts their claim that it is intended to save lives, because if it was intended to save lives, they would push it right now.

But they know it’s unpopular for people on both sides of the aisle. They’re hoping that Gavin Newsom will win this recall election, and then they can feel unleashed. Their tyranny knows no bounds if the people won’t push back. That is one of the most critical things that we have to examine when we’re talking about California.

CLAY: Liz, appreciate you coming on. This is Clay. You know this race is getting a lot tighter than anybody anticipated, when Larry Elder’s past starts getting covered in excruciating detail. And the LA Times called him “the black face of white supremacy,” which is an unbelievable headline that is real for the biggest newspaper in the state. How real do you think the chances are that Larry Elder wins, and what are seeing in terms of underhanded tactics to try to keep that from happening in?

WHEELER: Well, I think that’s a question we should ask Gavin Newsom, because clearly Gavin Newsom is scared, or he wouldn’t be out there in the streets sweeping up. And I’m not going to paint the analogy here, but if anyone wants to assume that maybe he’s trying to sweep the refuse (laughing) that he’s left in the wake of his policies, then, you know, go for it. Make that analogy. But Gavin Newsom himself is scared.

This is not the conservatives getting fired up. This is a Democrat governor who thinks he’s going to lose. He’s so afraid that he comes off as out of touch and elitist, that he’s going out, pretending to clean up after the homeless, having a crew — a news organization — following him around, trying to write a glowing recommendation or a glowing profile on him about how much he cares. This guy knows he’s going to lose, and he should lose!

He’s presided over just additional policies in California which those of us in California, have known for a long time. But it’s become clear to everyone during covid. I mean, look at the school system, for example. Gavin Newsom is in bed with the teachers union. The teachers unions in California… The Los Angeles United Teachers, the president of that teacher’s union said that “learning loss,” children not being able to attend school, she said that’s a myth.

It’s not a thing, because “even if babies didn’t learn their times tables,” these are her words, not mine, “they learned the words ‘coup;’ they learned the word ‘insurrection.'” This is who Gavin Newsom is in bed with. So when we see these schools that are either shut down or they’re mandating masks or they’re kowtowing to teachers unions — essentially hostage demand lists of radical leftist policies in order to reopen schools — that’s who Gavin Newsom supports!

That’s what he’s a part of, and he’s been advising the Democrats — going back to the other topic. He’s been advising the Democrats in the state capitol on how to craft these vaccine mandate policies, how to gut and amend the transportation bill that’s in the California legislature right now that transportation has been removed from and replaced with vaccine mandates. He’s guilty of all of this, and the people of California know it, and they don’t like it.

BUCK: Speaking to Liz Wheeler, host of the Liz Wheeler Podcast, formerly of One America News. Liz, how close are the polls saying this is going to be and what are the deciding factors as people go and cast their votes in the recall? What are some of the different aspects of this that are gonna determine whether Gavin Newsom’s political career lives to fight another day?

WHEELER: Yeah. So the polls, I think, unfortunately — as much as we love to parse the polls — have such widely differing results right now. It’s a little bit hard to tell. In June and July, there were polls that showed that it was about even. An even number of people wanted to recall Gavin Newsom versus not recalling him. A recent poll shows it’s not quite as close as that. But it’s a little bit hard to tell. We do know that 20% of eligible registered voters, I should say, in California, have already cast their ballots.

That means a vast majority of people have not. The vast majority of voters in California have not, and that’s another issue that I would bring up. Gavin Newsom unilaterally decided to send over 20 million ballots, unsolicited — these are mail-in ballots — to registered voters in California. That’s unprecedented. At a time, especially, when so many Republicans are concerned about election integrity, concerned about voter fraud, concerned about whether their votes are being diluted by fraud.

To have a governor, during a recall, send out 20,000 ballots really does raise the question in so many people’s minds: Is this election going to be fair? Are we going to be able to trust the outcome? In my opinion, that should incentivize voters — again, both sides of the aisle. You don’t have to be Republican, don’t have to be conservative to feel this way.

It should incentivize voters to say, “Listen, we are going to have election integrity laws passed in states across the country.” When it comes to California, do we want Gavin Newsom in charge of that or do we not? And the answer to that, if you look at the polls to voter ID, for example, the vast majority of voters in both parties support laws like voter ID that strengthen the integrity of our elections.

BUCK: Liz, I’ve got friends in California, who consider themselves to be liberal, who have never voted for a Republican before, and are so fed up with the school situation — they are moms and dads — that they have decided to vote for the recall so that Gavin Newsom is gone. How much of covid fear, but also covid fearlessness — in that people think we need to get back to normal — is going, in your mind, to implicate this vote? How many people are going to make their decision based on whether it’s okay to pull rims off of basketball hoops, whether it’s okay to bring in sand and put it inside of all the different places where people are skateboarding? How much is covid underlying the result here?

WHEELER: It should underlie a lot of it. I mean, I lived in San Diego for almost a decade, and last year during covid, the police literally kicked me out of a park. So let me paint this picture to you. It was a park not a playground. This is a park in San Diego that’s basically just a big grassy hill. I was sitting on this hill at least 100 yards from anybody else and police on a little ATV came up to me and said, “Listen, because of covid, this park is closed.”

CLAY: Oh, my God.

WHEELER: That was absolutely absurd. I mean, the only contact I had with any person was with that police officer who was trying to enforce social distancing. But people in California have had experiences like I have had. The stories have been absolutely insane. There was a paddleboarder in the ocean —

CLAY: Oh, yeah.

WHEELER: — by himself. Everybody’s heard that story. We should be making decisions based on the tyranny that was unleashed in the name of covid. Because it wasn’t because of science. It wasn’t because of the virus. It wasn’t because of the pandemic. These politicians in California were taking advantage of people’s fear, taking advantage of people feeling protective of their families, and they unleashed this radical leftist ideology that… (line drops)

BUCK: I think we lost Liz there. (chuckles) But anyway, the Liz Wheeler Podcast.

CLAY: She did a fantastic job.

BUCK: She’s great does really good work.

CLAY: It’s great to have her making the case for Gavin Newsom being gone.

BUCK: She does really good work. She was about to stick the landing —

CLAY: I know!

BUCK: — and then all of a sudden, the TV went dark. Wait. She’s going to hit it! Anyway, Liz does a great job. The Liz Wheeler Podcast, go check it out for sure.

Recent Stories

Candace Owens Denied Covid Test by Bigoted Leftist

2 Sep 2021

CLAY: So, we were talking to start the show, about this desire to make anyone who is not terrified about covid or looks at the data and says something other than, “Never leave your home, hide in the basement, you are done for…” Any time those people have any kind of issue with covid, the Blue Checkmark Brigade on Twitter, goes into overdrive. So, Candace Owens — who we’ve had on the show, Daily Wire.

She’s fantastic. Friend of mine and Buck’s. She put out an email that she got. She is right now, evidently, in Aspen, Colorado, vacationing with her family, and she asked if she could get a covid test because she was worried that she might have covid. And she posted an email from a woman in Vale or Aspen, Colorado, and it says this. This is from a woman named Suzanna Lee. “Appointment cancellation notice” is the subject of this email.

“I just learned of this testing request and as the owner of this business am going to refuse this booking and deny service. We cannot support anyone who has pro-actively worked to make this pandemic worse by spreading misinformation, politicizing and DISCOURAGING the wearing of masks and actively dissuading people from receiving life-saving vaccinations. The only other local testing option is the free kiosk by city hall.

“They mail their tests to Texas and have inconsistent result times, do not take appointments so its walk in only midday weekdays in their back alley. My team and myself have worked overtime, to exhaustion, unpaid and underpaid this past year, spending our own capital to ensure that our community remains protected. It would be unfair to them and to the sacrifices we have all made this year to serve you.”

BUCK: Clay, this is the ultimate liberal sanctimony on covid on display. I’m wondering if Dr. Fauci is going to make this testing site owner a senior adviser now because this is the mentality. People that don’t agree need to be punished, even at the expense of the Hippocratic oath. There are some doctors now that are saying, “I will not treat you unless you’re vaccinated.”

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: “You’re vaccinated, or you’re not allowed to come in.” It’s disgusting. It’s unethical.

CLAY: Yeah. I am so fired up about this. I want to keep talking about this when we come back in this next segment. We will read what Candace said, and we can open up the phone lines, because I’m curious what the reaction will be among our listening audience. I bet people are fired up about this. It’s the very antithesis of what medical support and services should be doing.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: We were just talking a second ago about our friend Candace Owens — TV and podcast host/author — who has been denied testing services in a very fancy ski resort town.

CLAY: It’s either Vale or Aspen. I’m not sure which one.

BUCK: Yeah it’s one of the ones where I think you have to wear a top hat or a monocle while you ski, and you have to refer to “the plebs.” It’s a very nice place.

CLAY: I got to tell you, those places… I’m not a cold weather guy, Buck. Colorado in the summer is amazing. Right? Some people are like, “Oh, I want to go to Colorado. I want to ski, whatever.” That’s your right. My wife loves to ski. I understand some people like — she’s from Michigan — being outside in the cold. I’m a shorts, flip-flops, sunny weather kind of guy. But Colorado in the summer is exquisite. Amazing trip out there, because the weather is great. Mountains. You can hike. You can hang out. It’s a great place to be.

BUCK: I love Colorado because, specifically, the whole state, but also in and around the Denver area, we have a tremendous and very loyal and brilliant listenership.

CLAY: Ah! Denver is a fantastic city.

BUCK: We love our Denver Clay and Buck peeps. That’s for sure. But, okay, we were just telling you a second ago about what’s going on here in the world of media narrative. They’re all now trying to crush Joe Rogan with all these stories, and I told you, they’re calling ivermectin a horse deworming medicine. I just want to give you some examples of this, and it’s hard to find a better… If you’re looking for a toadie of the Democrat-corporate media complex, it’s tough to do better than Mr. Stelter over at CNN. Here he is.

STELTER: He seems to have admitted that he has covid because it’s hurting him in the pocketbook. He had to can… He has to postpone or reschedule one of his upcoming stage shows. So, you’d think the economic consequences might get people’s attention and make people (sputtering) think — may — make his fans think differently about the threat of covid. But he’s trying to portray this as if he’s doing better, he’s doing better now because of this cocktail of drugs and medications that he has taken.

Of course, these — some of these — are under emergency use authorizations. Uhh, others have been discouraged by the CDC and the FDA. But when you have a horse deworming medication that’s discouraged by the government, that actually causes some people in this crazed environment we’re in to actually want to try it. That’s the upside down world we’re in, with figures like Joe Rogan.

BUCK: (impression) “Horse deworming medication.” Reading off the talking points. Clay, the crazy cocktail he’s taking includes medicine like the monoclonal antibodies — not really a medicine, but it’s a treatment – -that everyone knows is highly effective and very good. But CNN is willing to… Because are going to hear what they just said and they’re going to think, “Oh, wait. But Joe Rogan took the monoclonal antibodies and those are emergency…” The vaccine was emergency use authorization! This is propaganda. This is the Fauci fascism on display.

CLAY: It’s so true, and this is why we are constantly trying to tell you guys, “Hey, let’s talk about natural immunity,” which Joe Rogan is going to have now, which we have talked a great deal about on this show, which almost no one will discuss — even though an Israeli study has shown that the best protections you can have — up to 27 times, the Israeli studies showed; 27 times as valuable — is natural immunity compared to vaccinated immunity.

But the goal here, Buck, is to try to make people like you and me and Joe Rogan… They’re trying to delegitimize, anything that we say. This is, you’re right, propaganda. But it’s also an attack. This happens to us, every single day. Biggest radio show in the country. We’re trying to be as honest with this audience as we can be, because we love and trust you guys — and I think that’s the best thing anybody can do is be 100% honest every day.

That’s what Joe Rogan does. They’re trying to go after us, because they are scared — they’re scared, Buck — that if they are something other than sheep, that they are going to have to worry about data not supporting everything that they said, and so they have to attack us ’cause you can’t attack the data.

BUCK: But it’s not even just — and I know you’re going to tell us Candace’s rejoined here in a second. But I think that’s important for us to understand. They want to say… Brian Stelter can say whatever he wants all day. I don’t care. You know, look, this is media. We say things about them; they say things about us. The things we say are true, but that’s a whole other thing. But they’re actually taking action now, Clay, that harms people.

I mean, they’re abusing children in an anti-science fashion by masking them up. They’re rushing through… There were those two FDA resignations yesterday. Remember that? They were saying, “Hold on. We’re going to say this is fine for kids? Are we doing this because of the politics, or because of the science?” There’s so much going on here that needs to get honest treatment. But instead, what they want to do is coerce and threaten and not give tests to people like Candace.

CLAY: And people can say, “How do you win?” I think we win, Buck, by pointing out the absurdity of the other side. And so here is Candace Owen’s response. So if you’re just getting into your car, our friend Candace Owens is out in Colorado wanting to get a covid test. Requested it. The owner of the clinic refused to give her a test, and said because of her politics, she wouldn’t allow her to get a test. All right? Here is Candace Owen’s response. This is great.

BUCK: Brace yourself, folks. This is going to be good.

CLAY: “Dear Suzanna, I wanted to let you know that this might objectively be the most hilarious e-mail I have ever received in my life. Truly, I’ve never laughed harder. Nothing screams ‘this virus isn’t political’ quite like googling the names of the people who book tests with you and determining on a case by case basis whether or not you will let them comply with your community covid measures.

“Nothing screams ‘I love my local community’ quite like refusing to test people who are going to a local event and wish to ensure they are negative and therefore do not spread the virus. That nobody stopped you from hitting send on such an emotionally unstable and hysterical e-mail leads me to believe that the people who work for you must love me, and would therefore never deny me this entertainment.

“It’s hard to pick just one, but I think the best part of your virtue-signaling rant is the arrogant assumption that you’re the only person who can administer a covid test from here to Texas. LOL. Cheers. Candace.” That’s how you win, Buck!

BUCK: That’s classic Candace right there too. Good stuff.

CLAY: You win by ridiculing the absurdity and mocking. This is what good late night TV hosts used to do, Buck. They would take advantage and mock people in positions of power to try to hold them accountable. Now, the left has become so anti-humor and so unable to see, because they’re so focused on their strident virtue signaling, they don’t realize how ridiculous they look to the rest of us.

BUCK: Now you have doctors in Florida, who did not walk off the job. But did a ceremonial or a symbolic walkout from that. But people have, in private practice and people in other places across the country — medical doctors, who the Hippocratic oath and do no harm and all those things; you’d think that’s pretty important — are saying, “You can’t come to my practice unless you’re vaccinated.”

You have people like Don Lemon on CNN. Is he the most absurd host on CNN? It’s tough to know. And we will get to the Taliban/white supremacy CNN headline later on, folks, because that was an amazing moment in CNN’s history. But Don Lemon is out there saying that you shouldn’t be allowed in the hospital if you get sick with covid and you’re not vaccinated. First of all, they make no exemptions to any of this.

They don’t actually talk about people who… There are some people who truly, medically — everyone agrees — it’s risky for them to get this vaccination. But they won’t talk about that. They don’t care about religious exemptions. And, of course, the vast majority of people listening to this right now. Freedom exemptions: “I don’t want the government jabbing something into my arm or making me do it so I can live my life,” especially given all the considerations of what’s the risk profile? How many shots do I have to do? They’re just so dug into this, Clay, and we’re not going to stop till we beat them.

CLAY: I agree with that. Doctors treat people, Buck, who make awful health decisions all the time. Obesity is the number one controllable aspect of covid that we have seen from all the data. People that are wildly overweight get treated in hospitals. People who are drug addicts get treated in hospitals. People who shoot someone and are shot themselves — felons who are committing crimes — are treated in hospitals.

The job of a doctor in a hospital is to treat people who are sick, regardless of the morality of how they got sick. The idea that you would be a doctor and say, “Oh, I would treat this person who OD’ing, but they used illegal drugs, and so therefore I am morally opposed to drug use so I’m not going to do it.” No! When people are sick or ill or injured, as a doctor, your obligation is to try to get them well regardless of how they got to you and the choices they made.

BUCK: This is why when there’s a shootout with police —

CLAY: Yes!

BUCK: — and there’s a suspect who has been hit who is bleeding out —

CLAY: Exactly!

BUCK: the EMS treats him like they would treat —

CLAY: That’s exactly right.

BUCK: — a priest who got hit by a car. They’re rushing treatment. They’re doing everything they can. They’re trying to help them out.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: Don Lemon at CNN has actually argued that doctors and hospitals should be doing this — which is a radical, ridiculous, outside-of-the-mainstream idea that is being popularized on CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post. Listen to Don Lemon here, making that argument to his audience on CNN.

LEMON: If you’re not gonna get vaccinated, you don’t wanna social distance, you don’t wanna wear a mask, maybe you don’t want to go to the hospital when you get sick. I know that sounds harsh, but you’re taking up the space for people who are doing things the right way. You and I both agree on this is going to be between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated moving forward in this country. And I just think, if you don’t play by any of those rules and then all of a sudden you end up in the hospital, I feel bad that you, but maybe you shouldn’t go and take up the resources from someone else. That’s it.

CLAY: Imagine if he says that, Buck, except he’s saying it to fat people. If he said to fat people, “Hey, you decided to eat and get obese, and the reason why you are sick now,” ’cause the data reflects that of covid people, 78% of them are significantly obese. Imagine if he had gone on and said, “Hey, I don’t think fat people should be allowed to go to the hospital because their obesity is causing a lot of their health-related conditions, and so doctors should refuse to treat fat people.” People would be like, “That’s kinda crazy.” That’s what he’s doing.

Recent Stories

Joe’s Approval Craters After Afghanistan Implosion

2 Sep 2021

WILLIAM COHEN: I think the relationship should be one very arm’s-length. The Taliban is not going to convert into a civilized nation. Certainly not overnight and not in the foreseeable future. So, I think we have to keep them at very arm’s length, and I think we have to maintain communication with them from the military point of view to the extent we can. But also, our intelligence community will have lines of communication open.

BUCK: Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. There you had a former Secretary of Defense, William Cohen, who was saying we have to keep the Taliban at arm’s length. This is going to be a big deal, a big issue on the foreign policy front for a while now. Because, let’s remember, we left more than half of SIV recipients — and, yes, first and foremost, we left over 100 — and I’ve been talking to people that are still trying to work to get people out of Afghanistan.

They believe that it’s significantly more than just over 100. They think it’s hundreds. But we don’t know. It’s not clear yet exactly what the number is. But we have to get them out. And, Clay, we are entirely reliant right now on the Taliban letting these people get out, which means we’re going to have a relationship with them. He says, this guy — Cohen, who was the defense secretary — that we’re going to have intelligence community contact with them. Which, yeah, sure. That will be.

But I think we’ll have to get used to the fact that there’s going to be a lot of effort by the Taliban to try to present themselves as a semi-normal player in the international community, which is mind-blowing but I don’t see a way around it. This is where you have them saying the last couple of days — I forget who the reporter was who was trying to push a member of the administration — “Is the Taliban the enemy?”

And I understand actually why they’re not going out saying, “Yeah, the Taliban are still our enemy,” because we’re having to ask them, because of the Biden calamity. To let us have our people back. Because the military was instructed to pull out. We did leave people behind. So, yeah. We’re not going to be able to antagonize them. So it is in this Bizarro World of a month ago, we were ready to back our — or at least verbally back our — Afghan National Security Forces partners to go toe to toe with the Taliban. “Fight them! They’re barbarians,” and now we’re kind of like, “Well, we gotta see what happens.”

CLAY: And what we’ve been saying from the get-go is, I just hope that we’re not going to have a series of hostage-related crises involving the Taliban or ISIS-K or Al-Qaeda, any of the people that are sweeping in to be able to take over. And, Buck, you know, you talk to a lot of people. I talk to a lot of people. One of the things I’m hearing most frequently is the idea that the Taliban is a well structured…

I know this is going to shock a lot of people. The idea that the Taliban is a well-structured organization is laughable. You have a lot of essential, feudal lords, all over this country, who — depending on the city or the geographic region of Afghanistan — have different degrees of control. And that matters, because the upper echelon of the Taliban may be trying to rebrand, effectively, as I saw Kat Timpf, who you did a show with recently on the Gutfeld show talk about the rebrand of the new Taliban.

It’s like New Coke or something. Like, hey, maybe don’t stick with the name Taliban if you’re going to try to rebrand and do something different than what you’ve already represented. But some places out there where the Taliban is in control, are already establishing Draconian controls. They’re not allowing, for instance, girls to go to school after the sixth grade now in some parts of Afghanistan.

They’re dragging out people who are involved in entertainment in any way and executing them, right? And so, to what extent is there going to be any kind of consistency that applies here? And how ridiculous is this going to make an already ridiculous administration in Joe Biden look, Buck, when all of these stories blow up? And if we have hostage crises — or God forbid, multiple hostage crises — it’s just going to legitimatize everyone who pointed out how absurdly catastrophic this entire policy has been.

BUCK: Even some Democrats realize that this is a mess still. A lot of them were saying a week ago when the images came out — because they were effectively running for cover themselves as politicians or as journos or pundits or whatever. Here is Democrat Rep. Ro Khanna, who is one of the more reasonable Democrats I will say out there in general.

KHANNA: I do think there has to be accountability, Neil. As a member of Congress, I knew the idea that the Afghan army was gonna fight the Taliban successfully was foolish. We had generals come tell Congress over and over again, “Oh, we’re winning! We’re winning! The Afghan army is doing well.” And then they’d go off record, as you know or other journalists know, and say, “No, we’re not winning.”

So what I want to know is how is it possible that you had advice that the president of the United States thought this Afghan army was gonna successfully fight the Taliban, and were we that deluded about the corruption in the Afghan army, the sense that most people were doing it for a paycheck — they had no real allegiance — and that the Afghan government never had the consent or the attachment or the loyalty of their people? We definitely need oversight over that.

BUCK: I mean, we’re going to talk about oversight — and we call it for it here, for accountability. But, Clay, the only accountability comes with the Democrats taking a shellacking over the midterms which, as you know, is a year away. And a lot can change between now and then. No resignations. No firings. The only firing was a guy, the lieutenant colonel, who said there should be accountability!

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That’s the only guy that we know of who basically got real consequences for all of this. And it just goes to show you that when Trump was in office, they were always talking about how he was “undermining faith in our institutions.” Nothing undermines in institutions quite so much as them failing catastrophically and then looking the American people in the eyes, and saying, “Yeah. We did a great job.” It’s like a kid that wrecks his dad’s car and then says, “Look what a good driver I am!”

CLAY: That’s a good analogy. And also, the analogy here is that the Democrats are homing that people have the memories of goldfish, and that they’re not going to be able to recall by 2022 how disastrous Afghanistan was in concert with all of the other Joe Biden administration failures. I thought we had a good discussion about this too. Your argument, which I think is an interesting one, is that Biden is so bad right now, it’s like he’s cratering.

And it’s hard for him to go lower than he’s already going right now. I mentioned that I was going to give us an update on the poll situation. I mean, these polls right now for Joe Biden — and, again, I understand people out there are like, “Hey, you can’t really trust polls. Because we know how wrong they were on Trump.” But usually, Buck, polls are overstating the support for Democrat candidates.

BUCK: Right. If a poll looks bad for a Democrat, it’s really bad.

CLAY: That’s right. And right now, Joe Biden is underwater everywhere as you look at his overall poll results. And he’s underwater in places that should be — I think this is significant, in places that should be — historically favorable to him. Politico, Morning Consul. This came out today with disapproval of Joe Biden. We know Rasmussen disapproves. But the level of disapproval is crazy. All the way down to 42% approval, and in the NPR poll, down to 43% approval for Joe Biden. I mean, he is cratering, unlike any Democratic president in most of our lives.

BUCK: I feel concern over this just in so far… The good side of it is that at least we’re not living in an entirely parallel universe where that middle ten to 15 — or, as you said, 20% — of Americans are persuadable based upon the issue or circumstances about who they’ll vote for and what they’ll support. At least there is some reality that that is based on.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: We’re not living in a completely upside-down world where they’re saying, “Yeah, Joe Biden. Great job in Afghanistan!” We all know that’s not true. My concern here is just that — and look, we’re projecting a long ways out. But when you look at the Biden administration, where it is right now (chuckles), I almost worry, Clay, that the American people will become numb to the ineptitude and failures of the administration.

The normalcy that Joe Biden promised us is manifesting itself through, “Yeah. It’s normal. Crappy normal! But this is kind of the way things are,” and then they’ll trot out the War on Women, and the insurrection, and the socialism, and all the usual nonsense and the shiny objects to distract the public from what’s really important and really matters in this country. And momentum, as you know, matters a whole lot of politics. Right? It’s not how you start. It’s how you finish on Election Day.

Recent Stories

DeSantis Stands Up for Normalcy and Common Sense

2 Sep 2021

CLAY: Ron DeSantis is fighting battles that frankly a lot of other politicians won’t fight especially when I consider he’s in a toss-up state. It’s not like he’s in a completely guaranteed state where the Republican candidate is going to win every gubernatorial election. We can talk about this, Buck. Think about how much different the country would look if Andrew Gillam had gotten elected governor of Florida in 2018 instead of Ron DeSantis.

BUCK: You would be doing this radio show with two masks on your show right now.

CLAY: Maybe not even allowed.

BUCK: Yeah. You would be doing it at home, in a sealed off entity with two masks on and like swimming in hand sanitizer.

CLAY: Let’s listen to Ron DeSantis, who keeps fighting the battles that I think as many Republican politicians we can find should be fighting. Here’s DeSantis on standing up to his opponents.

DESANTIS: Yeah, I think it’s been a rough time. I think there have been people who have been affected all across this state, and I think it’s been a really terrible thing. And I think the thing that we’re trying to do is say, “Okay. What was not being done? Where was the gap?” And the biggest gap was in the early treatment. So, I am confident that there are going to be people that are now being availed of this, who will have better outcomes as a result of that.

BUCK: So that was on monoclonal antibodies.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: They went to the same playbook on this one, Clay, as they did when Ron DeSantis had Publix — which is an institution that everyone knows in Florida — and Publix was putting out the vaccines. They ran this… I think it was CBS. They tried this whole attack —

CLAY: 60 Minutes.

BUCK: Oh, it was…? Yeah. 60 Minutes. Yes.

CLAY: 60 Minutes on CBS, yes.

BUCK: Right. They ran this whole attack piece, and it was total crap. The fact that it got through anyone who considers themselves a journalist and they put on-air is embarrassing. But they have no integrity to protect, so what’s the difference? They tried the same with monoclonal antibodies, as if trying to say, “Hey, vaccines are good for people who want to get them, and senior citizens,” as we’ve always said, “should get them, if they can, unless their doctor says otherwise for a very specific reason.”

But monoclonal antibodies work. They attacked him on this, because ultimately attacking Ron DeSantis for a lot of journalists is more important than for people in Florida being healthy and living. I’m just going to say it. It’s true. That matters more to them day to day than these other issues, and now he’s got this other thing.

Florida is going to start issuing $5,000 fines to businesses, schools, and government agencies that require people to show proof of a covid-19 vaccination. You want to play games, local government? You want to play games, school boards? It’s $5,000 you’re going to get fined by the state. This is standing up for normalcy and sanity with some teeth.

CLAY: And it’s fighting back against this idea, which the Democrats and the Fauciites are trying to spread, which is, you’re either a hero or a villain, based entirely on whether or not you’ve been vaccinated. They don’t want to talk about anything other than, “Were you or were you not vaccinated?” They won’t talk about natural immunity. They won’t allow you to even discuss treatment if you get covid.

Because, we talked about the start of the show, Joe Rogan shares his covid treatment. Buck, you shared your covid treatment. And it’s as if you’re not even allowed to mention anything other than whether or not you’re vaccinated. That’s all they care about. That’s the entire sum total of their response to covid: Get vaccinated. Nothing else from your health perspective matters. Anyone who says anything else is an enemy of the state and they just want your grandma dead. That’s their perspective.

BUCK: And unless we point out how absurd it is, it never changes, because, not only are there a lot of Democrats that are just completely really just disabled with anxiety in the way they approach these things, they like the power, Clay. I think our caller… I think it was yesterday. Look, we have great callers all the time. This is the smartest audience in talk radio, listening to this show. But the caller who said, “They’re going to use the perpetuation of the covid crisis in some capacity to change election rules for the midterms,” I think that’s spot-on. They’re going to try something like that.

CLAY: I don’t think there’s any doubt.

Recent Stories

Biden Blames Hurricane Ida on Climate Change

2 Sep 2021

BUCK: Here is Joe Biden. So, there was this crazy rainstorm last night. I think it’s the tail of Ida or something. I’m not a meteorologist, obviously, although that would be great. If you could be a meteorologist in the ’90s, early 2000s, what a fantastic gig. But, here is Biden, of course, tying it into climate change.

BIDEN: (mumbling) The past few days of Hurricane Ida and the wildfires of the West and the unprecedented flash floods in New York and New Jersey is yet another mmm-reminder of these extreme storms in the climate caisis (sic)– crisis, are here. We need to do… be miss… better prepared. We need to act. When Congress returns this month, I’m going to press further action in my Build Back Better plan that’s gonna make historic investments in — in electrical infrastructure, modernizing our roads, our bridges, our water systems, sewer and draining systems. We’re reminded, this isn’t about politics. Hurricane Ida didn’t care if you were a Democrat or a Republican, rural or urban. This destruction is everywhere!

BUCK: Clay, first of all, whenever they say, “It’s not about politics,” it’s absolutely about politics.

CLAY: Always about politics.

BUCK: And also, yeah. Weather happens and has always happened, and it can be really bad, and Mother Nature can be very rough and unforgiving. But notice how it automatically turns into a, “Let’s use this as an excuse for the commie Green New Deal put inside this massive budget bill,” which we have not forgotten about, Clay.

CLAY: Which still has to be debated.

Recent Stories