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Kamala Bailed Out This Guy So He Could Commit Murder

8 Sep 2021

CLAY: Buck, I wanted to make sure we hit on this because if this had happened with the January 6th riot — if Donald Trump had raised money for people who are arrested on January 6, and one of the guys that he had raised money for got out on bail and then got accused of murder — this would be the number-one story everywhere.

Well, you’ll recall that Kamala Harris backed a bail fund surrounding all of the Minnesota riots, and they helped get an alleged Minneapolis domestic abuser out of jail, paid bail. This guy, George Howard, 47 years old, had been arrested due to his behavior in the riots. And Kamala Harris said, “Hey, we need a Minnesota Freedom Fund. We want to bring in as much money as possible.”

And they brought in the money to get this guy out of jail, given his charges. Well, he has now been arrested and charged with two counts of second-degree murder for allegedly shooting Luis Damian Martinez Ortiz during a road rage incident in Minneapolis on August the 29th. Buck, Kamala Harris got this guy out of jail, helped to raise money that ensured that he was not held accountable for his violent behavior in the wake of George Floyd incident. And now this guy has committed murder. Can you imagine the reaction in the media if one of the January 6th perpetrators who’s been arrested, Trump helped them get out on bail, and then they committed a murder?

BUCK: I’m pretty sure the media would be talking about it a whole lot more than they’re talking about this. That’s for sure.

CLAY: This thing is hardly getting any attention.

BUCK: What you see is Kamala right now is on this mission to try to keep Gavin Newsom in the governor’s role. So she’s going out to California. I don’t think she’ll be very effective there, either. She’s a machine politician. There’s not a lot of inspiration in anyone including the residents of California are gonna take from Kamala Harris.

But I think it’s also worth noting that you have the sitting vice president of the United States was advocating to raise money for people who were guilty of rioting. Right? They act like the bail fund was for people who were prisoners of conscience or something, were wrongfully accused. No. They rioted. They deserved to be held in jail, they deserved to be criminally Chandler. But remember, riots that Democrats like as long. As there’s a BLM banner involved, that’s okay.

CLAY: Yeah. Let me just fix this, by the way, clean up a little bit. What is going on here is, he was arrested for having a firearm, and they put up $11,500 bond in a domestic assault case. I guess the freedom fund still has money left over from all the people they were bailing out. So they’re continuing to bail people out who otherwise might not be able to, all funded by Kamala Harris’ group.

But according to this story, he had… It makes it honestly even worse, ’cause he was in for a domestic assault case. Why is the fund helping get people who are accused of domestic assault out of jail in the first place? Regardless, I think almost everybody out there would sit back and say, “Hey, maybe some of these guys that are accused of violent crimes should maybe stay in jail. Maybe shouldn’t let them back out.”

BUCK: The no-bail changes made in New York, Clay — everyone I talked the NYPD, everyone in law enforcement there says — resulted in more violence, resulted in bad things.

CLAY: No doubt. It’s a huge issue.

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Democrats Lie, Claim Afghanistan Withdrawal Was Big Success

8 Sep 2021

BUCK: We promised you an update on the situation in Afghanistan and also all the efforts in the media and from the Democrats, from Biden himself, to try to convince you that all that stuff you saw — all the people who were rushing the airport in a frenzy, the chaos, those grabbing onto the gears of planes as they took off from Kabul airport, the situation of the security on the ground (or lack thereof), the 13 killed in a suicide bombing, 13 of our own, members of the military.

The Biden administration’s already talking about what a success the Afghan withdrawal was. We still have a thousand people there including green card holders, dozens of U.S. citizens. Yesterday, Chuck Schumer said, “Every American who wanted to get out got out.” That’s just not true. That’s a lie, but Chuck Schumer is no stranger to lies. It’s really what he traffics in. But as promised — or as predicted and promised — they’re already trying to tell you that they’ve done a great job, that this was amazing.

Remember when it was a disaster that we could all see unfolding before our very eyes? There were videos and photos and people were giving interviews that were saying what a complete mess it was, how embarrassing it was for the United States to have a run-for-the-exits, run-for-the-lifeboats moment as we did. And yet I said, “It’s just a matter of time before they tell you it’s a great success,” and as if right on cue, here’s Nancy Pelosi doing just that.

PELOSI: The historic, uh, evacuation of 120,000 people was remarkable, and I commend the administration for that. This is never easy. It’s not always, uh, complete right from the start. Uh, but it was remarkable, even though it got off to a — a — a — hazy start. And, uh, now we go forward.

BUCK: “A hazy start,” she says, Clay. I remember when digital Dunkirk was trending, one thought I had was, “Yes, it was amazing that just as they had the Brits taking boats, fishing boats, pleasure craft to get their British shoulders off the north shores of France that came after an almost mind-boggling, hard-to-fathom destruction of the military might of France and the U.K. at the hands of the Germans, right? (chuckling) The evacuation came because of the disaster! But Pelosi wants you to think this was a great moment for America.

CLAY: Yeah, and unfortunately — let’s say a positive story here — Dunkirk, I think, now in the British mind-set is maybe the moment that Britain points to as one of the greatest, if not the greatest moments of modern British history, because the positive there — and this is a little bit of an aside, but there’s an opportunity to go see some of those boats in England.

When you get a chance to go back to London, they have incredible history museums there. And, Buck, some of these boats… I mean, to even call them boats is unbelievable. Seeing the fact that they got four and five soldiers into these little boats that they were willing to take over in the midst of all of the bombing going on by Germany and everything else, it really is, I think, a seminal moment in western democracy.

BUCK: It was a response to unbelievable military disaster, which was the possible eradication of the entire British army in one fell swoop.

CLAY: Yes. They had an opportunity for D-Day because the British people used their own fleets to get people out, and that’s the point on Afghanistan in general. If you had an orderly withdrawal, there would have been no need to even brag about it in any respect because everybody who wanted to get out of Afghanistan would have been able to get out. And already, Pelosi is trying to spin this in some way as a positive achievement by the Biden administration.

I think you’re right that they’re going to, as time passes, hope that this situation fades and people don’t remember how much of a disaster this really was. And are they gonna be successful in that? My belief is no, because this story ties in to all the other Biden administration failures. And so it will be hard to stand alone when you combine it with covid, the border, murder rates, and sundry other failures, including potentially the budget not being able to pass.

BUCK: One of the areas that was always hardest for the corporate media to try to prop up the Obama administration in was on foreign policy, because there were all these disasters that kept unfolding. You had Syria and Libya and Iraq and ISIS and the situation Afghanistan. Also, noteworthy that the highest casualty rates the U.S. sustained in the war in Afghanistan — by far — occurred while Obama was in office.

But there was much less talk. That was “the good war” so we didn’t have to worry, whereas you remember during the Bush administration everything that happened in Iraq, it was like Bush himself was responsible for every single life lost there. Very different approach to it all. But Biden was supposed to be the steady foreign policy hand of the Obama administration. That was the initial pitch, and then people just hoped that he didn’t say embarrassing things and was the kind of foolish uncle that everyone hides at holidays.

And we saw that play out for eight years. But there were things, there were key decisions made: The pallets of cash given to Iran, the transfer of five senior Taliban members from Guantanamo Bay by the Obama administration in 2014 in exchange for Bowe Bergdahl who walked off base. He just decided he was gonna walk off base. I’ve seen and interviewed members of units that Bowe Bergdahl was either in or working alongside who were highly critical, to say the least, of the Bowe Bergdahl decision.

But, Clay, it’s almost like we’re going through this cycle here of the Obama administration foreign policy failures are being revisited on us in very clear ways. Of those… They called them the Taliban Five at the time, right, back in 2014. Four of those five members are now basically the Taliban cabinet! I mean, they’re the guys that are effectively running the situation in Afghanistan.

They’re not quite at the very head of government and they’re not quite Sirajuddin Haqqani, who is really number two now in the whole situation. But here’s what we got. We have the acting director of intelligence, Abdul Haq Wasiq; the acting minister of borders, Norullah Noori; deputy defense minister, their secretary of defense number two, Mohammad Fazl’ and acting minister of information and culture, Khairullah Khairkhah (not easy to say), and the fifth member of the Taliban Five, Mohammad Nabi Omari, was appointed governor of coast in eastern Afghanistan last month. The Obama administration decisions are coming back to haunt us all over again.

CLAY: Well, I think we’re gonna have to send another harshly worded letter to the Afghan government. When hear that, that calls for really hard typing on the letter that we print off and send to them. We’re gonna be so mad when we’re looking at our computer screens. Did you see, also…?

BUCK: You’re joking, Clay, and a worthwhile joke.

CLAY: I know. They did it.

BUCK: They actually did. The State Department has voiced concern over the lack of female inclusion in the Taliban government.

CLAY: There are 35 top government officials, and they’re all male, right? And so though wrote — again, it feels like it should be satire. How do you respond to terrorists with a really harshly worded letter? But that is what we have done now in response to not having a diverse and inclusive enough government. It’s 35 men, all of whom, (chuckling) by the way, are the same religious faith.

It’s just funny to me, like, every picture that you saw, like, so much of what we do in this democracy on a day-to-day basis is total BS, but maybe the peak of BS is this cosmetic diversity obsession. Every time there’s a photo, it has to be like the United Colors of Benetton back in the day. The ad has to be 12% Asian inclusion. It has to have all that, and then you look at the Taliban and they’ve just got 35 bearded Islamic fundamentalists that represent the government, and we’re gonna write ’em a mean letter? And that’s gonna somehow have some impact on them like they care about any of this?

BUCK: Well, also this is an area where we’re gonna say that, you know, international opinion, and the Taliban’s gonna say, really? Well, I’m just telling you. We know what the response is gonna be when we try to have… First of all, we’re not gonna pressure them in any meaningful way. We all know this. I mean, Blinken is like the dean in the high school that none of kids listen to. He’s like, “Slow down in the hallways,” and people are just throwing spitballs.

CLAY: “Where’s your hall pass? Where’s your hall pass, kids?”

BUCK: Yeah. We see the Taliban right now already understandings the leverage that they have, as they’re not allowing a thousand people, and there’s also reports that the State Department — our State Department — has blocked private flights from getting out or landing in ways that just boggle the mind. But the Taliban, I’m pretty sure they’re not gonna care about our strongly worded letters on their lack of diversity and inclusion.

Beyond that… I mean, they have an actual war criminal as one of their cabinet members. I mean, a true documented war criminal, a guy went in and wiped out whole villages of Hazaras, who are an ethnic Shi’a minority inside of Afghanistan. And, Clay, they’re gonna say, “Well, America does business with Saudi Arabia. America does business with China which operates concentration camps.” They’re gonna go and say this stuff at the U.N. and, you know what? At some level, it’s true, and they’re just gonna divert from the fact that, “Yeah, we’ve got a country that’s run by barbarians that we’ve been at war with for 20 years,” and that’s the reality.

CLAY: And also, this just brings back the ultimate reality, which is sternly worded letters… We are running a country like Twitter, and what I mean by that is words matter on Twitter. Somebody says something somebody else doesn’t like and it’s, “Oh, my God! We gotta cancel that person! Did you see what they said about” whatever topic, right? Doesn’t matter what the topic is.

“They made a joke I don’t like. Let’s stone them! Let’s deride them with righteous and furious anger,” and that works for the Democratic Party in America. They have turned Twitter into an arm of the Democratic Party. It doesn’t work with actual terrorists. And there’s a huge percentage of Americans that don’t know what actual evil is. They think Target not mixing boys’ and girls’ toys together is evil.

Not mixing them together! Target has a whole aisle that’s just girl toys and an aisle that’s just boy toys and the things that Americans are obsessed with on a day-to-day basis — and, meanwhile, Afghanistan is stoning people. Right? And what do you think the impact’s gonna be when our hypersensitive, perpetually offended culture tries to have any impact in Afghanistan? Those two are just gonna walk up and smack us in the face: We’re not even a moral authority.

BUCK: We’re not even really gonna try. I mean, this is the other part of this, too. I think everyone realizes that there will be some people that make a little bit of noise, but the left in this country doesn’t even really believe that there are foreign enemies. The only enemies are domestic. The only enemies are Trump voters that are in opposition to the power that they want here at home. So while they’ll do strongly worded letters about the Taliban? They’ll try to lock up insurrectionists here for “attempting to overthrow of government,” when you got a lot of people who were taking selfies and walking around and whatever.

CLAY: Grandmas.

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AOC Isn’t a Scientist, So She Shouldn’t Talk About Climate

8 Sep 2021

BUCK: Clay and I making sense of all the madness today, including AOC championing “menstruating-persons rights.” This is a term now you’re supposed to use. That won’t offend people. Let’s just refer to a woman’s cycle all the time without referring to a woman, and this is a member of Congress, folks.

Plus, Biden is pushing the climate change lunacy: 50%, roughly, solar energy for the U.S. by 2050, they’re saying. We got four Taliban members swapped out for Bowe Bergdahl by the Obama administration — we all remember that — now running essentially the Afghan government. They’re like the cabinet. And you got the Robert E. Lee statue taken down, historic statue. Pelosi is calling Afghanistan “a historic and remarkable withdrawal.” So we got… Oh, and Manchin on the spending. Clay gets excited on the spending.

CLAY: I am excited to see what’s gonna happen.

BUCK: Let’s talk about that in just a little bit. That’s all coming your way. But I mentioned to you before the break that climate change is the place the Democrats want to go next. They’re not gonna get off the total control of pandemic Fauciism until they can transfer this mass mobilization and authoritarianism to climate change ’cause then it’s existential; they can control every aspect of your life. They’re just telling us this is what they want to do.

OCASIO-CORTEZ: If our entire world and our entire, uh, society is going to shift because of climate change, it’s a matter of how it’s going to shift. So basically, if we do nothing to address climate change, we are going to see the continued destruction of our supply chains. We are going to see our crops not be able to grow in the same way. We will see our infrastructure begin to crumble away. We will see us not… We will see, you know, the continual protil – uh, continuation proliferation of other future pandemics as well. And so that is how our life could change if we do nothing.

BUCK: Could we get all the trolls online to just go, “AOC is not a scientist”? ‘Cause that’s what they do with us. How could it be any dumber than what she just said?

CLAY: Look, I understand that there’s a lot of politicians who are not… Here’s what AOC is good at. She’s good at getting attention, which is a big part of being a politician. She is good at the Blue Check Brigade swarming around her because she says things and a lot of people congresspeople don’t really say things. But I’ve never heard her speak and thought, “This is who should be representing…?” How old is AOC? Like 36/37? Something like that. I don’t even know.

BUCK: I think younger.

CLAY: Younger than that? I’ve never thought AOC should be the spokesperson of the Millennial generation, and I don’t think she advocates for anything that she advocates in a way that is that is remotely helpful to what she advocates for.

BUCK: Thirty-one, by the way.

CLAY: Thirty-one. You get the sense, by the way, that Nancy Pelosi — as much as she might dislike Mitch McConnell and as much as she might dislike other people, Nancy Pelosi — genuinely, I feel like, detests AOC. I really do, when you hear her talk about it.

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This Biden Tweet Didn’t Age Well

8 Sep 2021

CLAY: The battle of our era right now is over how do we get back to normalcy in a covid era, despite the fact that right now as we just finished Labor Day, we have twice as many people hospitalized as we did last Labor Day. You’ll recall that Joe Biden ran his entire campaign predicated on the idea that he was going to fix covid and get us back to, quote, “normalcy.”

And that hasn’t happened.

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Clay on F&F: Brady’s Number Beef and MLB Outsourcing

8 Sep 2021

Clay appeared on Fox & Friends with Brian Kilmeade to discuss Tom Brady’s complaint over the NFL’s number rule change and MLB outsourcing manufacturing to China.

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Clay on Tucker Carlson Tonight with Guest Host Kilmeade

8 Sep 2021

Clay appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight with guest host Brian Kilmeade to discuss the massive crowds at college football games last weekend and how upsetting it was for Dr. Fauci, CNN and the rest of the lockdown left.

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Rush Busts Joe Biden for Another Lie

8 Sep 2021

Be sure to listen daily to Rush’s Timeless Wisdom podcast here or on iHeartRadio. It’s absolutely essential information from America’s Forever Anchorman.

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EIB 24/7: Clay & Buck’s Stack of Stuff

8 Sep 2021

  • CBSNews: There were nearly 300% more new COVID cases on average this Labor Day than last year
  • New York Daily News: Daily U.S. COVID cases up more than 300% from Labor Day last year
  • FOXNews: Jimmy Kimmel says unvaccinated people shouldn’t get ICU beds in his return to his late-night show
  • FOXNews: Minnesota man freed by Kamala Harris-supported bail fund now charged with murder
  • Axios: Manchin backs as little as $1 trillion of Biden’s $3.5 trillion plan
  • AlexBerensonSubstack: Moving target
  • Reuters: Sweden to remove most remaining pandemic restrictions this month
  • Breitbart: Statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee dismantled in Virginia
  • USNews: China Weighing Occupation of Former U.S. Air Base at Bagram: Sources
  • Washington Free Beacon: Kerry Reduced To Zoom As CCP Rolls Out Red Carpet for Taliban. Climate czar claims ‘constructive’ Zoom meetings
  • PJ Media: Could China Take Over Bagram Air Base Since Biden Abandoned It?
  • Daily Wire: Four Taliban Members Released From GitMo In Trade For Bowe Bergdahl Now Part Of Hardline Afghan Government
  • JustTheNews: Exclusive: ‘I will never surrender to Taliban,’ says leader of Panjshir resistance
  • New York Post: State Dept. won’t give private rescue flights OK to leave Afghanistan
  • Daily Caller: Biden’s Staffers Reportedly Mute Him When He’s Talking
  • Breitbart: Canada Election: Trudeau Pelted With Stones as Protests Continue Along the Campaign Trail
  • Breitbart: ‘Not a Life and Death Issue’: NIH Orders $1.67 Million Study on How Coronavirus Vaccines Affect Menstrual Cycles
  • New York Post: Biden gets hostile welcome in NJ touring damage caused by Hurricane Ida
  • Daily Wire: Media Trying To Salvage Story About Ivermectin Overdoses in Oklahoma
  • NewsBusters: Nets Censor EVIDENCE Fauci Lied About Funding Wuhan COVID Experiments
  • JustTheNews: ‘Do I have to sue CNN?’ asks podcaster Joe Rogan, following coverage of his ivermectin usage
  • New York Post: AG James issues subpoena to JCOPE for Cuomo’s $5.1M book deal records
  • Gateway Pundit: Minnesota Man Freed by Bail Fund Promoted by Kamala Harris Charged with Murder
  • PJ Media: ‘Californians Are Absolutely Fed Up’: Larry Elder Slams Newsom’s Leadership as Recall Enters Final Week
  • FOXNews: After Newsom recall, California Democrats eye changes to state’s direct democracy system
  • New York Post: Biden tanks in 7 Democratic swing districts as poll says $3.5T spending too big

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    Rapper and Podcaster Zuby Drops Into the NYC Studio

    7 Sep 2021

    BUCK: We have here in studio our friend Zuby, who is a podcaster, rapper, author, public intellectual, and general life and fitness guru. Zuby, welcome, man. And I know you’ve been making the rounds across the states. How’s it going?

    ZUBY: I’m doing great, man. Happy to be here.

    BUCK: So, you are from the U.K. originally, spent a lot of time there. You’ve been a critic of lockdownerism, or we call it Fauciism here.

    ZUBY: (laughing)

    BUCK: Fauci doesn’t matter as much to you guys, you know, across the ocean as it does to us here, unfortunately, for us. But how’s the U.S. doing compared to what you’ve seen in Europe when it comes to the lockdown madness?

    ZUBY: Yeah, it’s interesting. I’ve been opposed to all of this since day one, you know, March 2020. I think it’s… Man, with a lot of things, it’s kind of like difficult to compare the U.K. with the U.S.A. because this place is so much bigger. The U.S.A. is like a continent. So, as I’ve seen already from my travels here in the U.S. and from what I was seeing from afar, depending on what state and even what city you’re in within a state, you can see a big range of different responses.

    From outdoor mask mandates and lockdowns in certain places, to it basically seeming like covid doesn’t even exist in other places, 100% normal, people living normally, no restrictions, no mandates, everybody’s going around their business as usual and not dropping down dead. So, it’s kind of weird. In the U.K., I left about six weeks ago now. So, before I left there were still some restrictions in place.

    And as it stands, I believe everything has been dropped now. But they’re still threatening to bring in the so-called vaccine passports. They are threatening to potentially go into another lockdown in a couple of months. So, I think the U.K. is in a little bit of a precarious position, just like I think some of the blue states and cities in particular here are as well.

    CLAY: Zuby, I appreciate you joining us. The first time I became aware of you was when you did — ’cause you’re a comedian as well — some hysterical videos breaking all of the women’s lifting records.

    ZUBY: (laughing)

    CLAY: You’re a pretty strong dude, and I’m a sports guy originally; so this idea that men and women should be competing against each other or that transgender athlete should be competing against each other… You know, we just had the Olympics where we had a male who decided to become a woman competing to try to win weight-lifting championships… There’s a pretty significant biological difference between the two. I think every state champion, for instance, in Texas over the last 20 years for high school is faster than — male — is faster than the fastest woman of all time. When did you come up with the idea to do these weight-lifting challenges, and what were the responses to you becoming the strongest woman in the history of the world?

    ZUBY: (laughing) Well, it’s an issue that I’ve been observing for a couple of years, and I was telling people that this was going to happen. It was the inevitable logical conclusion of the ideology that was being pushed, right, saying that anybody can be whatever gender they identify as at any given moment. You don’t even need to be consistent because you can be gender fluid as well.

    So actually when I posted that just that morning I’d seen a few stories coming out of the U.S.A., in fact, which were about “biological males” dominating women in their sports. So out of curiosity, I just thought, “Ma,I’ve got a really strong deadlift. I wonder what the women’s British deadlift word is in my weight class.” So I looked it up and I saw that it was about 50 or 60 kilograms below my maximum.

    I was just like, “Oh, hey, I had that video on my phone.” I posted that nine-second video thinking, “Okay. If I find this funny, a few other people will find it funny,” and, lo and behold, it was seen by millions upon millions of people, put me on tons of people’s radar, and it was really the catalyst for a lot of people to discover all of the other things that I do. In terms of pushback, it was maybe like 0.5%.

    Maybe for every 200 messages of support I got I got one attempting to criticize me but really it was a checkmate position because if someone believes in the ideology, they either need to accept me as the British women’s deadlift record holder, or they have to say that I’m not actually a woman which according to their own logic is transphobic. So they need to pick one.

    CLAY: And explain why, right? One of the big questions that comes up and I know this is really in the west in general, it’s in the U.S., Canada, and Western Europe, too, “What is a woman?” is something that conservatives like to ask the question of –

    ZUBY: Mmm-hmm.

    CLAY: — because they won’t give you a clear answer on it, and that affects things like the sports competitions that we’re talking about here.

    ZUBY: Yeah. I mean, a woman is an adult human female. We’ve known this for a —

    BUCK: We know this.

    ZUBY: — very long period of time.

    BUCK: This audience knows this.

    ZUBY: I think everybody knows this. I don’t think that anybody truly in their heart deep down believes in the nonsense that they’re saying. I don’t believe anybody believes it.

    BUCK: It sounds like you also experienced that there’s a very small but incredibly loud, influential, and vicious minority of opinion makers — really opinion police — about issues like this that will come after you on the transgender rights issue. A lot of conservatives I know have said they’ve experienced more hatred perhaps for standing against that madness when it comes to things like the sports competition than anything else.

    ZUBY: Mmm-hmm. Yep. Same goes for women as well. You know, there’s a lot of groups. Even feminists are very split on this issue.

    CLAY: Yeah, Zuby, I’m curious here. We get this question a lot, and I wonder what you would say, “How do you win these debates,” right? I mean how do we get to the point where the idea of men competing against women, I think for almost anyone out there, is fundamentally ludicrous that goes to the directly heart of sports. It’s why we’ve separated men and women’s sports forever because as you demonstrated becoming the congratulations the strongest women dead lifter in the history of Britain, if men are competing against women then women never win and effectively women’s athletics cease to exist. That’s the logical extension of where this leads. How do we end up winning this debate?

    ZUBY: Well, you can’t get someone out of position using logic if they reach that position without logic.

    CLAY: Yeah.

    ZUBY: If someone’s come to a conclusion purely based off of emotion or raw ideology, then trying logic your way out of it directly won’t help. It’ll just fall on deaf ears. I actually think the right way (chuckling) to do it is to do an extension of what I did and take the notion and run with it. Right? Run with it. Get a whole bunch of male athletes to climb that they are women in all sorts of sports and start infiltrating the women’s leagues and this thing will end within a week.

    BUCK: Zuby, just for whoever’s listening, we’re joined by Zuby who’s a podcaster, author — global champion female dead lifter –

    ZUBY: (laughing)

    BUCK: — by his own admission/also a guy who has a lot of thoughts on covid and a range of issues right now. What’s it like for a guy who is black and British and stepping onto the public stage on some of these very contentious issues and is being embraced by conservatives in America? How does that feel? Are you surprised by it at all?

    ZUBY: Not really. I mean, it’s great. I’ve been to seven cities over the past five or six weeks, from Istanbul to New York to Dallas, Texas. And I’ve been stopped in the street in every single city even on my way here to the station by people telling me that they appreciate what I do, and that they’re happy to know that there’s other sane people out there within people willing to speak the truth, people willing to have these conversations and to jump on some of these land mines. I don’t think it’s necessarily about being conservative. I think it’s about being sane at this stage.

    CLAY: Zuby, I think what’s fascinating is in America — and I know this has spread to Europe as well — identity politics are the foundation now of the Democratic Party, and also I would say identity politics twinned with cancel culture.

    ZUBY: Mmm-hmm.

    CLAY: As a comedian — and a lot of what you do has cut through the illogical nature of many of the arguments out there using humor — to me comedians need to be a massive part of punching back against identity politics and cancel culture, and they can do it in a way that illuminates, which is rare, I think, for the conservative space, the absurdity of left-wing politics?

    And we’re seeing it from guys like Bill Maher, for instance, who now are recognizing that the humor here of Democratic positions lends them very much to satire. And obviously with your weight-lifting challenge, that’s a big part of it. But it’s a big part of intellectual freedom in general. Comedians can’t make jokes unless they have a wide expanse of range. When you talk with other comedians, how much of a topic is cancel culture and the identity politics universe and what can and can’t be said?

    ZUBY: Well, I’m not a comedian. I’m just a guy who’s an artist. I do know some comedians. When I’ve had those conversations with the handful of comedians that I do know, though, they do a lot of self-policing just like everybody else does. The majority of the censorship that’s going on right now in the Western world is self-inflicted. If you’re in a country like the U.K. or Canada, then, yes.

    There are governmental infringements on freedom of speech, and I know people who have been investigated and even prosecuted for things that they’ve posted online on Twitter or on YouTube. But primarily what it is, is just every American, every British person, every Canadian, the vast majority of people choosing to massively overself-censor themselves and self-police themselves.

    Just from basic opinions like, “Hey, I voted for Brexit. I voted for Trump. This is my position on this; that’s my position on that.” I think there’s a pandemic of cowardice that’s going on. And I think that if everybody could simply be 10 to 20% more bold and a little bit more courageous, especially when you’re dealing with stuff that’s absurd, then I think we’d get through a lot of this.

    BUCK: Zuby, where can people go to appreciate your work, including rapper and podcaster, right? So is it all in one place, or where should folks go that want to hear what you’re up to?

    ZUBY: Sure if you want to go to one single place where you’ll find links to everything, you can go to ZubyMusic.com. That’s Z-u-b-y Music, and you can also follow me on all social media @ZubyMusic.

    BUCK: By the way, next to I go to Nashville if you’re still bumping around the states, you gotta come out there, see what it’s like in the wonderful state of Tennessee where Mr. Travis is right now, ’cause New York City’s better than it was but we still got a ways to go here. Zuby, thank you so much for being in studio.

    ZUBY: I appreciate it.

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    It’s Worse Than a Year Ago: Biden Hasn’t Fixed Covid

    7 Sep 2021

    CLAY: I want to hit with you a data point that I think is significant that is not being discussed anywhere. Joe Biden ran his entire campaign on the idea that he was going to fix covid. He hid in the basement, he wore the oversized mask, he used it as a cudgel to attack Donald Trump all the time. The idea that Trump was not taking covid seriously enough, the idea that Trump had mismanaged covid — all of that — was the underlying theme and justification, alongside of normalcy, that Joe Biden based his entire presidential campaign upon.

    We are now coming up on the fall, now that we have passed Labor Day, and you can look at the data from last fall, a year ago, when Joe Biden was making this argument all through Labor Day in September. Did you know, Buck Sexton, that right now today as we speak, there are twice as many people hospitalized with covid as on Labor Day last year when Joe Biden was saying that President Trump was doing an awful job of handling covid?

    He owns covid now, and this failure — which would, honestly, if Trump were still in office, that hospitalization data would be being used as continued failure of the Trump administration. Yet I’d bet a huge percentage of our audience right now that’s listening to us has no idea that compared to last Labor Day, we have twice as many people hospitalized right now with covid as we did last year.

    BUCK: And how could that be? As we know the dominant lib, journo, media narrative is day in and day out… How could the current surge, not just in cases, but hospitalizations, be the fault of the unvaccinated, and it exceeds where we were a year ago, remember? Right?

    CLAY: When everyone was unvaccinated.

    BUCK: When everybody was unvaccinated a year ago.

    CLAY: It’s a great point.

    BUCK: So how is it possible to blame those who have not been unvaccinated when it’s worse somehow now with than it was a year ago when it was not possible to even be vaccinated, there is obviously something else going on here, Clay, which is why the questions about, “How does this end, what does that look like, what do we have to do, how long do these vaccines really lost, how well do they really work?” If we had an honest, not just journalistic but scientific community in this country… People are still so terrified. We both know personally doctors who think that what’s —

    CLAY: Lots of them.

    BUCK: — going with Fauciism is madness, but they don’t want to abandon all their patients and their career by being booted out of their hospital and having their license suspended for questioning Fauci. This is like the flat-eartherism of our current moment, actually. It’s not people that are skeptical of vaccines. It’s people who won’t allow there to be the questions about vaccines.

    CLAY: And what I would say too, Buck — I think you hit it well there with the flat-earthism. We talked about the heliocentric versus geocentric theories. Take the people all the way back to sixth grade science. But the essence of this and why it should be so offensive to everyone out there regardless of your political beliefs is, science is about rigorously questioning conventional wisdom.

    That’s how we get to legitimate ideas and new hypotheses and theories which govern our existence. And yet, if you point out, “Wait a minute. Israel, right now, is starting to discuss a fourth different covid shot. They have already given everybody a third covid vaccine. They are now talking about a fourth.” Israeli data reflects that the number of people who are testing positive for covid continues to skyrocket in that country.

    And if you ask, “Wait a minute. Is this really a vaccine? Is it a therapeutic?” How is it that we, with 75%, Buck, of people 18 and up in this country have received at least one covid vaccine shot have twice as many people hospitalized for covid this year as we did at the exact same time last year when no one had an opportunity to be vaccinated yet?

    BUCK: How is it the Biden administration gets away — day in and day out — with not addressing this in any way other than just to say, “We need everyone to get vaccinated”? Clearly that does not end this thing.

    CLAY: That’s right. That’s the key.

    BUCK: Because you have a lot of people who are vaccinated who are still getting covid. And I know that they say, “Oh, it protects from severe disease.” Okay. How long does it protect? If the vaccine wanes in effectiveness, right, the assumption here could be, all right. Maybe you have enough antibodies that you’re more likely than not going to survive. But does that also…? Remember, originally it was you won’t get it? You’re basically not gonna get covid. Rochelle Walensky of the CDC, the director, said, “You don’t get it; you don’t spread it. Get the vaccine!” That was the pitch. Now you definitely can get it, right? I mean, maybe it’s less likely —

    CLAY: You can still get hospitalized with it. I mean, there’s still… Look, it’s not as if your chances of ever dying of covid-19 go away when you get this vaccine. You could still die of covid.

    BUCK: And we’re looking now at a situation where, I think, Clay, they don’t want to do the real analysis. They don’t want to actually look at natural immunity because we could be heading toward a point where it’s just everyone’s basically gonna get covid —

    CLAY: That’s right.

    BUCK: — and the way that this actually not goes away entirely but gets under control is when enough people have natural immunity, more so even than vaccinated immunity. I’m not saying we’re there yet, but that’s clearly in the background here, and when you’re talking about getting a third, fourth shot, now all the questions about, “All right. Well, what are the side effects and what percentage of people have them?

    “And how much is too much? And what does it do?” I mean, as a simple function of math, if one in 100,000 people have a really bad reaction to a shot, if everyone has to get it every year, the math starts to add up very quickly to, “What’s really the benefit of this, especially if it starts to fade, if the protection of it goes away very quickly.”

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    VICTORIA PREMIER DANIEL ANDREWS: To protect the health system we’ve got everybody locked down. We’re gonna move to a situation where to protect the health system we’re gonna lock out people who are not vaccinated and can be. If you’re making the choice not to get vaccinated, then you’re making the wrong choice. But, yes, there’s gonna be a vaccinated economy, and you get to participate in that if you are vaccinated.

    BUCK: (impression) “Get vaccinated or you can’t be in the economy.”

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: Something like that. That’s what the guy in Australia is saying. Welcome back to the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. The Aussie accent’s kind of funky. It’s a tough one to do. This is what they’re doing there, folks. I just think you should know that whereas a lot of us have been for a while here pointing to Australia saying, look at how crazy they are. I think that the CDC, Democrat control apparatus of the Fauciites sees Australia and goes, “Wow, that’s possible here too. We could do some of that stuff!”

    I mean, Clay, just to give everyone a sense, new cases in Australia right now, they’ve these severe restriction… Remember, it’s an island, much lower population density, a lot going in its favor for covid in the first place. New cases, 1,545 as of today. The previous peak was in August of 2020, 395 cases! So somehow — in the era of vaccination and extreme lockdown in Australia — they’re having their worst covid surge ever. Hmm. Interesting.

    CLAY: And also you’re not allowed to hardly even talk about this, either, although Australia, despite what the left-wing lunatics in our country are saying, Australia’s president — did you see this too? — came out and basically said, “Covid Zero isn’t a real opportunity anymore.” Like, the idea of Covid Zero made sense in a small way if you’re an island nation, New Zealand, Australia, that completely can restrict travel into and out to of those countries. But only if you had a vaccine that was so effective, it basically ended the covid virus like a smallpox vaccine would have back in the day, like we did with polio. That’s not gonna happen, and so now they’re at least looking at the data and saying, “We’re broken. Our system of Covid Zero can’t work.”

    BUCK: We’re asking people… Really, the fight here is, it’s over freedom versus authoritarianism. It’s all also just over people need to be reasonable. They need to stop being unreasonable and think that anything — no matter how minute or how intrusive or how absurd — is worth doing against covid because anything that mitigates covid in any way is inherently justified. Clay, it’s just an unreasonable perspective, and that’s what has, unfortunately, infected the minds of about half the world’s population, maybe more than half the world’s population at this point.

    CLAY: And they don’t see the data, Buck. It’s so frustrating to you and me.

    BUCK: They don’t care, Clay.

    CLAY: Ugh.

    BUCK: I think we could read the data to their faces, and they would say, “That’s not what Fauci says,” and just go right back —

    CLAY: “You hate grandmas!”

    BUCK: — into the same nonsense.

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