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Another graphic, titled “The White Supremacy Pyramid,” advances the idea that conservative commentator Ben Shapiro is a foundation of “white supremacy” and that Donald Trump is moving society on a path toward “mass murder” and “genocide.” pic.twitter.com/9s81yC1Cxd

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There are over 200 million Americans who are vaccinated, and daily cases right now are 300% higher than they were a year ago when there were ZERO people vaccinated. Fauci and the lockdowners don’t even attempt to explain this. Ask why.

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How Many Times Does Dr. Fauci Have to Be Wrong?

8 Sep 2021

CLAY: The battle of our era right now is over how do we get back to normalcy in a covid era, despite the fact that right now, as we just finished Labor Day, we have twice as many people hospitalized as we did last Labor Day. You’ll recall that Joe Biden ran his entire campaign predicated on the idea that he was going to fix covid and get us back to, quote, “normalcy.”

That has not happened, and what’s become interesting is two of the most, I would say, stellar advocates — battlers, if you will — over how exactly we are going to reconcile covid in this country have turned into Florida governor Ron DeSantis and of course, the tin-pot dictator tyrant Dr. Fauci. And they went head-to-head talking about the data in a way, frankly, that usually doesn’t get talked about. Listen to Ron DeSantis talk about the situation in Florida and also lay out that herd immunity has not occurred as a result of the vaccine. Listen to this.

DESANTIS: If you’re gonna force vaccine mandates on people, just understand that what the data is showing us about the vaccine. In fact, the data is showing us you’re much less likely to be hospitalized or die if you’re vaccinated. That is true, and I think you see it in the statistics. However, the vaccinations have not created herd immunity.

And so if the idea is that having herd immunity — you force everyone to do this and that will create herd immunity — that has not happened. It’s still spreading. People who… Obviously, we’re going down in Florida. That was great. But that’s not what the issue is. The issue is, is it creating herd immunity? Fauci also said if 50% are an vaccinated you would not see any surges anymore. Well, that isn’t true.

CLAY: So that is a strong case from Ron DeSantis there again talking about data, which is not allowed most places. Of course, the tin pot, petty dictator tyrant Fauci was not happy with the fact that his own words were thrown in his face about if we had 50% of people — by the way, 75% of people at least 18 and up had at least one part of the vaccination. Fauci had to fire back at DeSantis.

FAUCI: Well, that’s not true at all. I mean, obviously, it’s important for you as an individual for your own personal protection, safety, and health. But when you have a virus that’s circulating in the community and you are not vaccinated, you are part of the problem because you’re allowing yourself to be a vehicle for the virus to be spreading to someone else. So it isn’t as if it stops with you.

If that were the case, then it would be only about you. But it doesn’t. You can get infected even if you get no symptoms or minimally symptomatic and then pass it on to someone who, in fact, might be very vulnerable — an elderly person, a person with an underlying disease. So when you’re dealing with an outbreak of an infectious disease, it isn’t only about you. There’s a societal responsibility that we all have.

CLAY: Buck Sexton, your reaction to DeSantis versus Fauci.

BUCK: Why is Fauci on TV still every five minutes? We have a massive federal health bureaucracy. He’s at NIAD, right. But under the umbrella of the National Institutes of Health, NIH, there’s also the CDC. We talk more about the CDC but somehow Fauci is still the face of all of this. Fauci is the face of all the failed policies.

This stuff has not actually worked the way we were told it would over and over. Now, they could argue that in some aspects, it’s had some efficacy. It depends on what mitigation measure we’re talking about here. But, you know, Clay, our friend — I know you had him on the show on Monday, on Labor Day — Alex Berenson, put out a great little quick cheat sheet.

Because we often say here, “How many times is Fauci gonna be wrong before people say, ‘Enough is enough’? How many times do we have to see his predictions being completely false?” and Alex pulled together, in his Substack, the following. Here’s Fauci November 12, 2020, Bloomberg. “Fauci says end of pandemic is in sight thanks to vaccines.” That was in November of last year, right?

CLAY: Right after the election remember, Buck, when they miraculously could announce that the vaccines were ready, literally two days after the weekend of the Election Day, right? I mean, it’s crazy.

BUCK: “Fauci predicts U.S. could see signs of herd immunity by late March or early April.” That was December 15th, 2020, in NPR. “Fauci gives sunnier outlook for end of pandemic — U.S. will see big, big difference by summer or early fall of 2020.” Clay, we’re seeing a big difference, as we know, a 300% rise in cases year over year.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: And then finally, as of August 25th — and again, hats off to our friend Berenson on his Substack: “Dr. Fauci says no end to pandemic before spring 2022 at the earliest.” This little lab coat tyrant is a jackass. This guy says every six months or so (impression), “It’s gonna be all over. Just listen.”

And then we wait six months or three months, whatever the time limit he gives, and he’s wrong. He’s like, “Just give it six more months.” It never ends as long as this guy is still given credibility not just by the Democrat corporate media, but by millions of Americans.

I look at people now and I think, “How is it possible that any person of sound judgment and rationality could listen to this little totalitarian Smurf on the television and think that they should pay attention to him at this point?”

CLAY: It’s such a great question, Buck, and I think about that a lot, too. I think one answer is, there’s a huge percent of the population that wants to have certainty and they have to turn their brain off and listen to people who are doctors, right? I don’t know; you’ve probably heard it a ton. Every now and then I dive into mentions and see what people are saying when I’m sharing things.

And one of the primary things I get is, “Are you a doctor?” No, I’m not a doctor. But if I had wanted to be a doctor, I would be a doctor, right? And I think this is an interesting response. I’m curious if you’ve thought about it a lot too. Buck, you’re smart enough to have been a doctor if you wanted to be a doctor. I’m smart enough to have been a doctor if I wanted to be a doctor.

This idea that only doctors are able to look at data and analyze it and make decisions that are smart, flies in the face of all American public policy because most governors and senators and congressmen are not doctors. But we elect people, and we listen to people based on, Buck, whether or not we trust their judgment and their ability to analyze facts.

And so this idea that you should have phone number a doctor to look at covid rates? I mean, Ron DeSantis is not a doctor. His analysis… By the way, he’s a Harvard Law grad. He could have certainly been a doctor if he had wanted to be a doctor, is smart enough to have been a doctor. But he’s smart enough to look at data, you and I are smart enough to look at data, and a lot of people out there aren’t willing to look at data. They want to be led, they’re comfortable being sheep, and that’s why people are still listening to Fauci.

BUCK: You have this credentialed class in the country. In particular, you’re talking about a lot of MDs, and these are the blue check MDs that you see who make noise and go on MSNBC and post photos like the one that I sent you of the mom doctor with her three kids with masks —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — and face shields on, as if face shields… Face shields are meant to prevent like they use them in some capacities in a medical setting. The actual splatter… It doesn’t do anything about aerosolized virus. Wearing a face shield, it’s like if you were a World War I infantryman and you put on a face shield to protect from you mustard gas, you are gonna have a very bad day.

CLAY: (laughing) You would die.

BUCK: It doesn’t do anything! They must know this at some level. But they believe that by continuing to adhere to this, they not only give themselves meaning and think that they’re more secure, Clay, they’re also tying themselves to the rest of the smart people. It’s not just virtue signaling. There’s an intelligence signaling that they think goes on here.

You mentioned doctors. “Oh, you’re not a doctor!” All the super smart people out there believe Fauci, even though of course that’s not true. There are doctors, epidemiologists that we’ve talked to wish we’d had on the show, from Stanford, from Cambridge, from all over the country who will say that this is crap.

And they’re never going to admit, Clay, no matter what the data actually says — you keep saying, “Look at the data” — there’s a very real chance that almost everything that the Fauciites have told us to do did nothing of benefit and was massively counterproductive.

CLAY: Yes. All cosmetic theater. I think that’s like you listed all the things that Fauci has gotten wrong. Here’s a good question for people out there. What’s he gotten right? What has Fauci, beyond a shadow all of doubt, looking at the data, gotten right? I’m not sure, Buck, that he’s gotten a single thing right.

And I’m giving him credit for adjusting his opinions constantly. Because originally, remember, he was saying, “Oh, masks don’t work; it makes no sense to go get masks.” He initially said this six-foot rule is total crap. Like, everything that Fauci has advocated is cosmetic theater, and it is totally noneffective, ineffective, has had zero impact.

BUCK: I think that Fauci has got one thing very right, unfortunately, and that is making it very clear to everybody in the Democrat Party that he’s effectively a Democrat operative in a lab coat and believes in authoritarian, bureaucratic control of the American people. I think he played the politics right, you know?

This is a guy who was somehow, in the Trump administration, in charge of the awful Trump response, they say — right? — and we know of course not true but managed to not only keep, elevate his job in the next administration. Well, why is that the case? How does that make…? You know, whatever happened to Deborah Birx? Remember her? Well, she threw a big party at home, and she told all of us not to see our relatives over Thanksgiving. That was kind of a bad move.

CLAY: Oh, yeah, yeah. And then she just peaced out, though. But I do think it’s an interesting question, Buck — and I don’t know that we’ll ever get the actual data. If we had done absolutely nothing at all, if we had just kept schools open, if everybody had kept working, if we had changed zero — if we really hadn’t done anything — would we be in a better place right now?

Because if herd immunity is the way out, Buck — and that’s really what DeSantis was arguing — and if we aren’t going to get herd immunity through vaccination, which I think the data reflects that we’re really not. Ultimately, everybody’s gonna have to get this, or enough people are gonna have to get this that it’s not spreading wildly.

BUCK: Then we get actual herd immunity.

CLAY: Actual, real herd immunity.

BUCK: We’re trying to induce, essentially, an artificial herd immunity through the vaccination process —

CLAY: Yes. That’s right. Through vaccination.

BUCK: — not through the actual contact. I mean, the mRNA vaccine works by the spike protein and this is a level of science that, you know, is legitimately not something that folks like me understand. But you do know that it’s different than the T-cell immunity you get from your immune system actually dealing with the virus.

But, Clay, to the point that what would happen if we basically done nothing or done something close to nothing… Fun fact. I’m putting Clay on the spot, but I think he’s gonna get this one right. How many people died yesterday in Sweden from covid, Clay?

CLAY: I think it’s almost zero.

BUCK: One.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: So there you go.

CLAY: I’ve looked at their death charts. They basically said, “We’re gonna go for herd immunity,” and covid doesn’t exist now in Sweden.

BUCK: Ten million people, folks. Ten million people. A year ago, “An experiment in death! The Swedes aren’t listening to the science!” Fauci is saying, “I’m very, very concerned,” you know, the whole thing.

CLAY: Yeah. Yeah.

BUCK: One person in the whole country, and, by the way, incidents an anomaly. Zero the day before… I’m looking at the numbers now. Zero the day before. One. Zero. They’re losing more people to death by bee sting right now in Sweden, most likely, than they are from covid.

CLAY: That’s right, and now Swedish people are in a lot better shape; so they don’t have as many people fat people as we don’t which I know you’re not supposed to be able to talk about because, it’s horribly upsetting to mention fat people now, fat shaming, whatever else. But we would be done with this if we had just peaced out and continued to live our lives instead of trying to shut everything down and allowing people like Fauci to continue to have power.

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BUCK: Jeff, Concord, North Carolina, not to be confused with Concord, New Hampshire. Jeff, what’s up?

CALLER: Hey, I have valid reasons to support my question, but my question is: Who owns the Wuhan lab?

BUCK: Well, the Chinese Communist Party/the Chinese People’s Liberation Army/probably some private investors, too, maybe at some level. I don’t know. But that’s an interesting question.

CALLER: I felt the same way because of (chuckles) this point, but I used to work for a company that sent me to China through the years of 2000 and 2008. I worked in Nanchao, which is more the industrial side, and it also goes to Shanghai. I never did anything touristy, but I knew to get around over there you had to have the driver and a translator when I was going because everything, everything is in Chinese. I did recognize the industrial section, some United States businesses or U.S. businesses that had their logo on some of the entrance signs along with Chinese. But every time you see the Wuhan lab shown on the news, the building’s labeled in English, the Wuhan —

CLAY: — Institute of Virology. Yeah. I’ve seen that too. It’s interesting. It’s interesting point. Look, the reports that are out there are that we gave millions of dollars for gain-of-function research. I don’t know if you saw, Buck, some of the videos that Fox News has been running of alleged bats from inside of some of these labs. It does not seem to be very restrained in terms of like there are people with the bats crawling all over them from inside of these Chinese labs, and, again, we talked a lot about this. But Fauci, to me, should have to resign. And I think he should face severe criminal investigation over his testimony in front of Congress.

BUCK: Yeah, lying to Congress is either a crime or it’s not.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: But as we know, especially in those highly politicized incidents or cases, there are two standards of justice — one for Democrats, one for Republicans. Time and again. That was, really, the whole Mueller probe was relying on the grinding gears of bureaucracy to get people on process crimes when Democrats don’t go to prison for process crimes. Come on.

CLAY: And also, to be fair, perjury is a notoriously difficult charge to prove because you’re not only having to prove than that is false, you’re having to prove that someone knew it was false and was intending to speak in a way that was a falsehood. And if you listen to the way that Fauci has been talking — even when he got into it with Rand Paul in that viral clip, their most recent head-to-head — he was clearly parroting what lawyers had told him in trying to make a subtle distinction regarding what gain-of-function was.

That was clearly his attempt. When I heard it, it sounded Bill Clintonian to me when he said, “That depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.” Right? It’s very legalistic driving down almost that he’s trying to protect himself in that respect, ’cause he knows that, as most people would hear it, he has been lying. I think Fauci knows that.

BUCK: I think Fauci knows a lot of things that he won’t say out loud at fancy cocktail parties in Potomac and in Georgetown, but I’m telling you this much: I’m not letting it go, man. I’ve been on Fauci’s trail from the very beginning. He is my tiny white awhile, and I’m not letting this go, man.

CLAY: Your fellow alum as well. That’s the ironic thing here.

BUCK: I know. I’m really just bitter that he goes for more than I do in the charity auction every year.

CLAY: Way more at the charity auction.

BUCK: Lunch with Fauci.

CLAY: How much more did he go compared to you?

BUCK: I don’t know. We don’t need to get into numbers, Clay?

CLAY: Ten to one?

BUCK: It was more.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: We don’t need to get into numbers, though. This is not a scoreboard thing, buddy. It’s for charity.

CLAY: The only thing better would be if they just paired you with Fauci —

BUCK: Amazing.

CLAY: — like they just gave you away a side benefit.

BUCK: I’d sit there and be (impression), “Your cohost, Clay Travis, is convincing Americans at the football stadiums to be unsafe —

CLAY: Keep going up, baby. Keep showing up!

BUCK: — without the masks.

CLAY: You’re going to be at one soon.

BUCK: He’s be all over me because of what you do, and me too. He knows that I can’t stand him. So there’s that.

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This Is Why Gutfeld Beats Kimmel and Other Leftist Comedians

8 Sep 2021

CLAY: Comedy has been destroyed completely and utterly by left-wing righteousness. Comedians are terrified to make jokes. Used to be you’d flip on David Letterman, Johnny Carson, Jay Leno, and whatever your political leanings might be, president got made fun of, famous political leaders got made fun of in the monologue, and it was almost impossible to know what the overall political leanings of the comedian might be because they tried to be equal opportunity attackers.

Now comedy is dead in late-night television, although we should mention, even though it doesn’t get a lot of attention, Greg Gutfeld. You’ve been going on his show for a long time, Buck. Greg Gutfeld dunks all over Steve Colbert, over Jimmy Kimmel, over — who’s the other guy — Jimmy Fallon. They absolutely destroy now, Greg Gutfeld does, Fox News, late-night, all those other programs.

BUCK: They inherited those other massive platforms and audiences that were built in.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Fox is obviously a very large platform for news. There’s not an inherited audience of a couple million people every night at 11 p.m. to watch comedy, which Greg, to his absolute credit, has built, and to Fox’s credit, has allowed that kind of a show, which, honestly, we should have… There should be more shows like that, right? There should be more shows that try to be culturally relevant as well as news relevant, not from even a conservative perspective, just a right of center or centrist perspective would be nice.

CLAY: Yeah. Or just a logical perspective. But it is interesting that that show with Greg Gutfeld has begun to dominate. And here’s my thesis — and I’m curious, before we play this clip from Jimmy Kimmel last night. I’m curious what you think in general about this thesis, Buck. I believe that what happened in late-night television is Stephen Colbert went all-in on attacking Donald Trump like crazy.

And his show on CBS went from last place to first place because there were people who wanted to tune in to a Trump-is-awful, comedic-focused broadcast. Colbert had a lot of success. And then Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Fallon chased Colbert to the point where, honestly, the smart play probably would have been to go in the opposite direction of Colbert.

But because Hollywood is so left-wing and left-leaning, you can’t get guests that are promoting their movies or are gonna come on your television broadcast, period, if you go too far centrist or right-wing and so they all changed each other down the left-wing rabbit hole and basically assured each other of mutual destruction.

BUCK: So I remember the originator, in a sense, of this model, the guy who was your got it right big time — and I’m sure you used to see his show a lot and I certainly did back when I was in college — was Jon Stewart with The Daily Show. All right? And that was going back to the Bush administration, and what that was is a place where — ’cause liberals, I mean, you see this.

They love the mad owe show during Russia collusion. Even though it was all lie and wasn’t true, that’s what they wanted to see. They prefer even more just the snarky, snide attack of someone pretending to be a comedian that’s really doing political commentary with jokes because, one, they just want to see pies thrown at the people they disagree with.

“You know, those red state, anti-vax, Trump voting MAGA hat people!” But also beyond that, they don’t want to be encumbered by facts, logic, reason, or decency. They just want to see their enemies mocked and humiliated. The left is obsessed with this. They also can tolerate no humiliation of their idols, their ideas. The fact that we haven’t seen more comedy, Clay, about people walking around with gas masks or three masks on or people that think —

CLAY: Or hazmat suits.

BUCK: — it’s normal to wear a mask driving alone in their car, this is rife for comedy. These are things that need mocking.

CLAY: It is wildly rife for ridicule.

BUCK: And yet it doesn’t happen because we all know that the one thing that the left cannot abide is the ridicule of its rituals and its ideas because then the whole thing starts to fall apart. It’s cultural resonance that makes at all so powerful. It’s the cool kids watch Colbert and laugh at his stupid anti-Trump jokes and so everybody else does it at the same time.

But I think that really what you’re seeing is actually just a form of propaganda because they’re doing political commentary on those shows, Colbert and Kimmel, whatever. But it’s political commentary for stupid people because they don’t actually… The moment they get challenged it’s, “Oh, I’m just a comedian. I’m just making jokes.” Well, no, actually you’re making political arguments with jokes placed around it so that you’re immune, and you can just take snide cheap shots at the other side.

CLAY: Are you with me growing up if you watched Leno – I was a Letterman guy — I don’t remember having any sense for what their political beliefs were.

BUCK: I never thought that Letterman was funny one second of one day in my entire life, and I didn’t watch him that much. I did watch Leno sometimes who I did think was funny. This is one of these areas where I see this and I say, “Clay, for a guy I agree with on so many things…” Letterman was a mean guy.

CLAY: I loved Letterman.

BUCK: I don’t think he was a funny guy.

CLAY: I loved Letterman.

BUCK: Ugh.

CLAY: I would watch Letterman every night. I liked the way he deconstructed late-night television. We could probably have a huge debate about this. But the bigger picture here is, would you agree with me as a Leno guy that you really didn’t get the sense that you knew what Jay Leno or David Letterman thought politically?

BUCK: Yes. He made jokes that were meant for the entire studio audience and everyone watching at home. You could have been a Bush voter and in the Leno years, laugh at jokes about Bush and it wasn’t uncomfortable, because it came from a place of comedy, not a place of derision.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And what’s happened now is the left, because of cancel culture, one, has weaponized the culture against the mockery of things that they hold sacred, but also don’t really… They have no interest in just the art of making people laugh so much as they want to be propagandists for their political side. They want to humiliate their targets. They’re not trying to make everybody laugh.

CLAY: And it’s interesting in that respect… Let’s play this clip when we come back because I think a lot of you out there listening to us now have sort of a visceral reaction when I say Letterman or Leno. Whether you like them or not, or certainly if you go back to Johnny Carson, they were equal opportunity comedians throwing punches and jabs in every direction such that you really never had a sense for exactly what they believed themselves, almost in a Walter Cronkite sense for lack of a better way.

BUCK: Well, he was also a lib but that’s a whole other thing.

CLAY: Yeah, but back in the day you didn’t really know. I mean, look. I think the assumption has to be that if you live in Hollywood or you live in New York and you’re entertainment, you’re probably a left-leaning person, unless you are totally silent, in which case I think that you might not be. But I do think that the question of how did this pivot occur, and is there a way out of it — and, honestly, in the process are and he’s not cutting their own throats because if you only allow humor in one direction, ultimately it’s going to be a failed humor.

BUCK: I mean, satire is usually directed at those who are in power.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: That’s what it’s supposed to do, and this is why political cartoons, for example, throughout our history have been so powerful, because they expose truths that also have a cultural salience, right? They show things in a way, they visualized what we know to be true and is often something you’re not supposed to say or those in power don’t want you to feel comfortable saying.

What’s happening now is, particularly when you’re talking about the gatekeepers of our culture, they determine what jokes are allowed and are not allowed, and they certainly don’t want them being directed at the people who are in power, and that just goes to right now, Clay, what is there to make fun of if you’re Stephen Colbert or if you’re these others?

I haven’t seen their shows in a long time. I see clips occasionally. What is there? You can’t make fun of the Biden administration. You’re not gonna make fun of the fact that there’s a senile buffoon who is actually president of the United States ’cause that’s your team.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: So all the actual comedy that people might be making is always encumbered by subservience to political belief. And that’s why comedy’s basically dead. That plus everything that’s actually funny now you can’t say out loud in a public forum without possibly losing your job, being kicked out of your housing, you know, that’s where we are.

CLAY: It’s also why I think you’re seeing Bill Maher cut through the noise, to a certain extent now with his HBO show.

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BUCK: Clay had mentioned that there’s a dearth of humor from people that have the supposed to comedian positions on TV. They’re really political commentators who occasionally make jokes, and Jimmy Kimmel, who… I mean, he’s gone after people on the right in ways I thought were just… I’m not even talking about to make jokes about but in a more personal way seems kind of nasty. Here he is talking about… This is his version of comedy. Play it.

KIMMEL: Dr. Fauci that said if hospitals get any more overcrowded, they’re gonna have to make some very tough choices about who gets an ICU bed. That choice doesn’t seem so tough to me. “Vaccinated person having a heart attack? Yes, come right on in! We’ll take care of you. Unvaccinated guy who gobbled horse? Rest in peace, Weezy.”

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KIMMEL: We still got a lot of pandemwits out there, people are still taking this ivermectin. You know, the poison control centers have seen a spike in calls from people taking this livestock medicine to fight the coronavirus, but they won’t take the vaccine.

BUCK: Apparently, he’s paid millions and millions of dollars by, what is it, Disney, to be a moron and a liar, ’cause that’s what that sound clip says to me. First of all, the horse… Anyone who says it’s a horse drug is an idiot who’s being dishonest. It’s not even possible to be that stupid. But, Clay, this is what we’re up against!

CLAY: Yeah, look. I think the whole — and we need to play, later in the show, the Joe Rogan clip because you took ivermectin. It was prescribed to you when you had covid.

BUCK: Yes, by a highly regarded infectious disease specialist of 40 years almost of practice in New York City. Yes.

CLAY: And it’s not the same doctor, but Joe Rogan, I’m sorry, also had ivermectin prescribed to him by a doctor. It has been prescribed to humans for decades as a drug, right? It has also been used —

BUCK: It has saved probably millions of lives over the course many of years.

CLAY: Yeah, so that clip to me is emblematic of, in many ways, the failure of comedy because it’s not a joke that would have been made, I don’t believe, by David Letterman or Jay Leno. And look. I know Jimmy because I do a show with his cousin, Sal. Jimmy and I…. I mean, he’s a good dude. I like him on an individual basis.

And he’s good friends with Adam Carolla, Buck, who has almost identical opinions to you and me in many different respects except Carolla is a lot funnier. And if you watched The Man Show back in the day, which I bet you watched some clips of back in the day, ’cause you’re around the same age as me.

BUCK: Cannot neither confirm nor deny.

CLAY: Man Show, which was Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel and which my buddy Sal wrote on, is fabulously funny. And I think the distance between late-night television today and what The Man Show could do represents a failure fundamentally of comedy. And to your point earlier, if you are — and I think it’s a big question, and I don’t know the answer.

You know, Gutfeld is having a lot of success by effectively being the anti-Colbert, right? He’s coming to things from a right-wing perspective where Colbert comes at it from a left-wing perspective. Is there still a space in comedy for a guy who is basically right down the middle — or a girl — going after equal-side humor?

I don’t know that there is, Buck. I wonder on some level whether we have so — and I’m making up a word here, potentially — nichified comedy that the only way you can win in society, and I wonder about this and worry about this a little bit, is if you are trying to appeal to a targeted demo instead of trying to appeal to the masses.

BUCK: This is also what happens when you have gatekeepers, those who control platforms, corporations openly going woke and now what you have is — you could call it — the Balkanization of the media. It’s certainly happened in news and commentary. When I got into this 10 years ago, Clay, MSNBC would say, “Buck, we want to have you debate jihadism or something with so-and-so,” and we’d actually get to fight it out on TV.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: CNN would have people say, “How could you ever worked at CNN?” ’cause they let me go on and crush commies and it was fun. You couldn’t actually do that you. Now, they would cheat, and they would talk over you, and there was a lot of hostility. (chuckles) It was a hostile environment, but at least it used to happen. Now no one really does this anymore. It doesn’t exist.

And everyone just wants what they expect from a host to be said night in and night out. And, I mean, Clay, you know, I understand that, you know, that Jimmy Kimmel maybe is a nice guy person to person. But the stuff that he’s saying, given what we’re going through as a country and the real threats we face?

I mean, it’s reckless, man. It’s bad. It’s not cool at all to pretend that people, that people shouldn’t go… He says that. He makes that as a joke. Other people are gonna say, “Yeah, you know what? You’re right. Unvaccinated people shouldn’t get into the ICU.” I mean, that’s a real issue right now.

CLAY: What’s crazy is at least he’s a comedian saying that. There are real doctors saying that, basically, “Hey, I’m not gonna treat you if you are not vaccinated,” and to me, again, all of this begs the question: Has the left-wing in many ways killed comedy? Have they destroyed all comedy? I think there’s —

BUCK: I think the mockery… I think we gotta be honest. I think the mockery comes in advance of the policy a lot of time. It’s, “Oh, those stupid Trumpers won’t do this or those Trumpers won’t do that,” and they make jokes about it, and then all the sudden it’s Pelosi and Schumer on the floor of Congress who are advocating —

CLAY: Following up on it.

BUCK: — and saying, “This needs to happen,” and enough people have bought in to the lies that the mockery are built on, that they go, “Yeah, you know what? I guess we do have to do it. It’s not funny anymore,” Clay, right? That’s what they’d say. “It’s reality now. We have to make them do this.”

CLAY: And I think this is also a function of Twitter, right? Because Twitter is so far left wing, yet it is for media people catnip, right? Even if you’re a middle-of-the-road or right-wing person, you still understand that that is where stories come and where debates take place.

BUCK: What percent of the country is really on Twitter? Isn’t it like three or something?

CLAY: Two percent of people are actually active tweeting on a day-to-day basis, one in 50.

BUCK: People that live in our world that aren’t.

CLAY: It’s not real.

BUCK: We’ll come back to so many calls. People obviously to want to talk. People are fired up, ’cause this does matter to the culture and to our politics. As Breitbart said, politics is downstream of culture.

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“Menstruating Person” Accuses Greg Abbott of Ignorance

8 Sep 2021

BUCK: You no doubt are familiar with Ms. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, better known as AOC, and she is the member of Congress who can certainly get the most headlines. Pelosi is the most powerful Democrat in Congress, but AOC can just flip open her phone, do a live stream, and get CNN levels of viewership from her phone, it seems.

It’s pretty amazing to watch it play out in real time, especially given how I just believe she’s a very, very ignorant person without a particularly developed knowledge of really anything other than progressive slogans and sloganeering. She’s also somebody who is, of course, always very critical of people on the right for not “following the science.”

Meanwhile, on issues like the Texas heartbeat bill, people like AOC will refer to… Well, I want you to just listen to this clip. This is on CNN. Listen to the different ways you and I, Clay, would describe women — pretty straightforward — the ways that she replaces that term.

OCASIO-CORTEZ: When we talk about the law that was passed in Texas, we know that anti-choice bills are not about being pro-life, because if they were about being pro-life, then the Republican Party would support, frankly, an agenda that helps guaranteed health care, that helps ensure that people (pause) who do give birth that don’t have the resources, uh, to care for a child can have that care for a child so we know that none of this is about life.

None of this is about supporting life! What this is about is controlling women’s bodies and controlling people who are not cisgender men. This is about making sure that someone like me as a woman — or any menstruating person in this country — cannot make decisions over their own body. And people like Governor Abbott and Mitch McConnell want to have more control over — over a woman’s body than that woman or that person has over themselves.

BUCK: Okay, Clay. I took notes on this one. A, “people who give birth,” also known as women, “menstruating person,” also known as a woman, but they will not use that term because, as you know, leftist orthodoxy is now that “women” can have male genitalia and “men” can give birth.

CLAY: It’s mind-blowing how broken the logic is for people like AOC. And you can even hear her in her head thinking about it. Instead of just saying “women,” she’s thinking “menstruating… menstruating person?” You can’t even say “pregnant woman” anymore? It’s gotta be “pregnant person” for the AOCs of the world?

“Birthing persons” instead of moms? I mean, this is all chaotic. And where it leads is reasonable people across the country hear language like this, and it doesn’t connect with their life experience — and when you don’t connect with people’s life experience, you know what happens in elections? You get your ass kicked, and that’s where Democrats are headed.

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8 Sep 2021

CLAY: I want to play this clip for you too, Buck. I haven’t even heard this yet. I’ve seen the transcript on it. Stephen A. Smith is the highest paid person at ESPN at —

BUCK: What’s he making? What’s he making?

CLAY: — 12 million a year.

BUCK: Whoof!

CLAY: Twelve million a year at ESPN. Stephen A. Smith makes more money at CNN than any football, basketball, or coach in America, trying to put that into context. That’s a big salary. You talked about earlier how politics is downstream from culture, which I think is well said. Stephen A. Smith yesterday on ESPN argued that every sports league in America should mandate every player have the vaccine. Listen to this.

STEPHEN A. SMITH: This is the thing that drives me nuts. And that’s why I say, I’m so done with people… I’m talking about the athletes, because the NFL, the NBA, it’s a private industry.

MARCUS SPEARS: Yeah.

STEPHEN A. SMITH: You don’t have to play. You’re not entitled to play. I mean, I think it’s shameful when athletes talk about, “Oh, it’s a private matter.” It is not a private matter, because it affects anybody that’s standing right next to you!

MARCUS SPEARS: You’re not living a private life.

STEPHEN A. SMITH: You’re not living a private life!

MARCUS SPEARS: No.

STEPHEN A. SMITH: It’s ridiculous! But this is the thing that’s drives me crazy, and I got to say this. You gonna laugh when I say this, Marcus, ’cause you know I’m on point on this. If I hear one more person, Molly —

MOLLY QERIM ROSE: Mmm-hmm?

STEPHEN A. SMITH: If I hear one more person, Marcus, talk to me about (mock sputtering), “W-w-w-w-what’s in the vaccine?”

MARCUS SPEARS: Oh, my God.

MOLLY QERIM ROSE: Ugh, I know.

STEPHEN A. SMITH: I — I — I — I — I might slap ’em with my phone!

MOLLY QERIM ROSE: I know.

STEPHEN A. SMITH: I can’t take it!

MOLLY QERIM ROSE: I know.

STEPHEN A. SMITH: It’s the biggest damn lie imaginable. It… They’re full of it, and so I’m telling you right now, the NFL… I’m glad the NFL’s made it inconvenient for unvaccinated people.

MOLLY QERIM ROSE: Yes.

STEPHEN A. SMITH: I’m glad the NFL — and the NBA, I’m sorry, had stepped it up. If it were up to me, they wouldn’t even be allowed to play.

BUCK: Clay, so I just want to be clear. It’s “a private matter,” when they’re gonna force you to get a shot, including people who’ve already had covid and they won’t make any exceptions for natural immunity because, you know, that’s science that we’re forced to forget for no apparent good reason. But was it “a private matter” if teams or the league wanted to tell people not to kneel? I have a feeling then, all of a sudden, Mr. Stephen A. Smith has a very different view of the private sector and capitalism at work.

CLAY: It’s a great point. And look, there’s been so much pressure put on players to try to force them to get the vaccine that I think they’re a little bit canary in the coal mines here, because so many Americans out there listening to us right now are getting pressured to get this vaccine who maybe — like you and me, Buck — have already had covid. It’s like we can’t even discuss that fact.

And when you have the highest paid ESPN employee screaming at people, you talked about how it can influence the league. The NFL is watching some of that stuff. The NBA’s watching some of that stuff. When they’ve got the media arguing that they should have vaccine mandates, it makes vaccine mandates more likely. But here’s where it’s blowing up, Buck.

A lot of these athletes are still testing positive ’cause the vaccine doesn’t stop you from getting covid. And the athletes are already under minimal risk. None of them have had serious health conditions. So the fact that you’re trying to lecture us and say that all athletes should be mandated… You know, they never mandated the flu shot. They should be testing less in professional reflects, in my mind, than they are. If you’re sick, stay home, but the actual risk to these athletes is zero.

BUCK: Do you remember when they used to talk about how 40% of cases…? That was the number that was thrown around, and I’m going back now, really, I think over a year.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Forty percent of cases were asymptomatic.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: You don’t really hear much about this anymore, do you? You don’t hear about the 40% of cases that are asymptomatic. You also… To our conversation yesterday about how this ends, how is it possible that we have a 300% increase in covid cases right now year over year at this point in time when we have 200 million people vaccinated in America?

CLAY: Great question.

BUCK: And no vaccines a year ago. We can all agree there were no vaccines 12 months ago.

CLAY: That’s correct.

BUCK: Now we’ve had 200 million vaccines. We have more cases now? I’ve seen some people try things like (impression), “It’s ’cause they got rid of mask mandates!” No. No. No. It’s cute, but it’s sad at the same time when people try to connect that little Fauci cloth. But there’s no effort, Clay, to even address some of this.

CLAY: Or try to explain it in an intelligent fashion. You’re right. I mean, the fact that we have doubled hospitalizations, the fact that cases have skyrocketed over last year since when Joe Biden was lecturing the White House on how poor of a job they’ve done responding to covid. Well, he’s been in my office almost a year now and he’s doing a worse job. It’s amazing.

BUCK: We got a lot of folks that want to weigh in on this and other things too. We can come back and get into that and close it out with your thoughts from all across the country on this. Man, ESPN, $12 million a year. That’s a good gig.

CLAY: It’s 12 million a year, Buck! Good work if you can get it.

BUCK: I just have to learn something about “the professional sports,” and then maybe I can give this a shot.

CLAY: (laughing)

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Do We Believe Joe Manchin Will Kill Biden’s Domestic Agenda?

8 Sep 2021

CLAY: Axios reported earlier this morning that Joe Manchin has let the White House know that he is not going to support the $3.5 trillion — anywhere near the $3.5 trillion — that, in fact, he may not support a budget over $1 trillion or $1.5 trillion. Meaning basically the Biden domestic agenda, the Bernie budget, would be dead.

Buck, do you believe him when he says this? Do you think that the $3.5 trillion which we all know actually, if you talk to senators — and, by the way, I think we’re talking to Rand Paul tomorrow, so we’ll ask him what he thinks about this. Do you believe Joe Manchin when he says, “I’m not going to support anywhere near this $3.5 trillion,” it’s more like a trillion or a trillion and a half?

BUCK: I do. And I think there’s a little bit of a motte-and-bailey argument going on here but with a spending twist, right? Where $3.5 trillion of spending is just blowout, remember the Obama stimulus package. Not TARP, which people always conflate, but the stimulus package, was about a trillion dollars. That led to the Tea Party. (laughing)

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And that wasn’t that long ago where people were saying, “Hold on a second! You’re gonna spend another trillion dollars? What’s this gonna do for future generations? What’s this gonna do to the value of our currency and to long-term economic trends that affect all of us in our day-to-day lives?” This $3.5 trillion, Clay? On top of the trillions that were spent in covid emergency and relief funds and all the other things, paying people to stay home and paying businesses.

Remember PPP? We spent so much money. This is just a long way of saying, “Yeah, I think he’s probably willing to stand in the way of the $3.5 trillion and go along with $1 trillion.” It’s still a trillion dollars of spending, right?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That just goes to show you where we are now as a country, and I think until inflation becomes so obvious and so painful that no one can deny the impact it’s having on their day-to-day lives… Food. Just go into a restaurant these days, you can see things expensive in ways that they can’t hide.

CLAY: Gas.

BUCK: Gas. Right. Home prices have been very interesting certainly in some parts of the country recently, very fast rise. There was a huge surge in lumber where I think it went up about 300%.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: It’s come back down since then a bit. But the point here being, Clay, okay, yeah. How excited can we get about reason and sanity winning the day when Joe Manchin as the 50th vote is saying, “Hey, I’m gonna protect us from the debt bomb by saying it’s a trillion dollars of extra spending on top of the trillions we already spend year in and year out, not 3.5?”

CLAY: Yeah. Here’s the opening sentence, by the way, of the Axios report: “Senator Joe Manchin has privately warned the White House and congressional leaders that he has specific policy concerns with President Biden’s $3.7 trillion social spending dream and he’ll support as little as $1 trillion of it at most he’s open to supporting $1.5 trillion, sources familiar with the discussion say.”

Some people out there may be saying, why do you care about Joe Manchin, West Virginia senator? Remember, they’re trying to pass this through budget reconciliation, which means they have to get every Democratic vote and Kamala Harris would have to break the tie. So if you have one senator who is saying, “I’m not in support of this,” then it all goes up in smoke.

And remember we’ve already had Kyrsten Sinema come out basically and say that she doesn’t support it, either, meaning the Democrats don’t have the votes — at least publicly, based on Sinema and Manchin — based on what they’re saying. Now, whether or not you believe ’em, that’s the next question.

BUCK: Right. As we all know, there’s gonna be a lot of horse trading behind the scenes, a lot of pressure brought to bear. Democrats have a whole lot of ways to induce people, to reward people, and to pressure them. Just as an aside, Clay, our favorite former governor of New York now. The attorney general, Letitia James, are looking into the $5 million book deal he got.

You and I are both in the media business. You don’t get $5 million book deals. I mean, that’s like former president who’s a Democrat memoir level money. But there’s a lot of ways… I’m just bringing that up, because there’s a lot of ways that they can try to either turn the screws or offer you some sweeteners to get you to go their way. But for Manchin, he’s in that special position where he could play spoiler on this. He’s, in some ways, the most powerful senator in America right now.

CLAY: He might be the most powerful politician in America right now when you consider what Joe Biden’s actually got.

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Joe Rogan Threatens to Sue CNN Over Ivermectin Lie

8 Sep 2021

CLAY: One of the guys that I think is helping to bring more people to the sane side of the political aisle is Joe Rogan. We talked about last week, Buck, the fact that there were so many people out there, as soon as Joe Rogan tested positive for covid… We’ve gotten into this era now — and I think you agree with me, Buck — where people want for people like you and me, Joe Rogan, whoever it might be… People who have been saying, “Hey, we gotta get on with our lives,” if we get covid, it’s like, hey, they want us to die from it, right?

BUCK: Yes! They do!

CLAY: To try to prove how wrong we were to say we could have normal lives.

BUCK: They say this online. We can see comments. We’re not surmising. We’re not theorizing they want us to die. People said horrible things in the beginning about what they wanted to happen to older family members of mine to me because I was an advocate for not locking down and doing things that now we all know did nothing, but they will never accept that.

CLAY: But you got covid, I got covid, and people would have been very happy — a lot, especially on the left — if we could have died and they could have put a picture of us up in the hospital like, “Oh, look at this guy! He’s on ventilator and he said that we had to live normal lives!” Yeah, I still think that. Even if I were to get covid and die, I would still be of the opinion that we have to live normal lives.

Just as if I were to die in a car accident tomorrow, I wouldn’t say, “Man, I should have never gotten behind the wheel.” No, you have to live. Life requires a certain measure of risk. We’ve got the biggest radio show in the country. Joe Rogan has got, right now I think, by most measures, the largest podcast audience in the country.

And he went on talking about the coverage that CNN put out about him and questioning whether or not he should sue CNN. And I think this is a big deal, Buck, ’cause it cuts through. We always talk about, “How do we reach that persuadable 20%, right?” the people who might be reasonable. They’re not gonna far left-wingers. How do we reach them? I think a guy like Joe Rogan has the opportunity to reach a lot of people.

BUCK: I don’t think he’s gonna be able to do very much if he were to sue CNN. Also, I don’t think he’s going to sue CNN. Right?

CLAY: But it’s an interesting part of the discussion.

BUCK: I guess. First of all, CNN, even with its low ratings… Unfortunately, I know a little bit about this. I actually have some friends who are secret conservatives as producers over at CNN, so I have pretty good sources over there.

CLAY: Oh, that’s a treat.

BUCK: Yeah, and CNN makes so much money on digital and CNN International that they could run — and also they get a premium from advertisers ’cause CNN is considered a gold standard brand.

CLAY: Of course they do.

BUCK: So even though their numbers are less, you’ll see a lot of Mercedes commercials, et cetera, on CNN’s airwaves, where you won’t see that with anything that’s even remotely aligned with conservative media, at least not the same way. So look, I think that Rogan’s… This moment just goes to show you that even somebody who is generally… First of all, he’s also a Hollywood and sports crossover.

He exists in these different worlds where he has substantial following. But this issue is so important to leftist orthodoxy that they will like a pack — I guess a school — of piranhas, go after Joe Rogan when the guy is sick. A normal, emotionally healthy and stable American adult, sees there’s a fellow human being, never mind a fellow American celebrity podcaster is after I can and wishes them well right away. But that’s not what you get on this because your point they want to make an example out of him, and it was on the ivermectin thing in particular —

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: — why does this send them into such a frenzy, and they say — by the way, this is why I got so upset about the Jimmy Kimmel joke, just because I think that’s it’s really unfair. By the way, I said before millions of people’s lives have been saved. It might be more like hundreds of thousands, but it’s hundreds of thousands of people who have been saved from river blindness, among other things, from actually going blind, since ivermectin came on the scene.

And to downplay not only that as an important medical achievement but then also to be just constantly slamming people. Clay, where’s the humility on the left from any of this? I read the headline. Fauci is a moron who’s wrong all the time, but people still think if they cling to Fauci like a little intellectual safety blanket they’re being wise and they’re the good people. This is guy is wrong all the time. How is it possible to have been wrong so often, as the lockdowners have, and not at least have a moment of, ‘You know what? Maybe we should at least be willing to engage the other side.” They don’t want to engage. They want to dictate.

CLAY: Yeah. That’s where I think the Joe Rogan impact could be significant in terms of opening up the eyes to some people who are persuadable, and in particular the ivermectin which you were prescribed as we talked about earlier when you had covid and which Joe Rogan was prescribed. And they made it sound like Rogan had gone to like a vet clinic — at CNN they did, and MSNBC as well as — and stolen, like, horse deworming pills.

BUCK: Can I just say also when I prescribed it by a doctor here in New York, I wasn’t told… He didn’t say, “Take the ivermectin. It’s a miracle cure, it’s a silver bullet, you’ll be better in an hour. ” He said, “Look, if you want to, there’s been some studies.” He actually has read the scientific studies, the real the scientific studies. “There have been some in the lab studies of this done that it actually seems to show some effect against the virus replicating itself.” But he basically said it to me as if, “You can take it. It may not do anything, but it’s really not gonna hurt you.”

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: “So it’s your call.”

CLAY: It’s a drug cocktail, basically.

BUCK: “So it’s your call.” So it was like he was giving me something where he said, “If you want to, or you can just sit there and suffer and hope it goes away,” which is what I ended doing, right? I took the ivermectin. It took me about a week to get better. But, Clay, they’re not even honest about how when it is prescribed the people the circumstances under which it’s done. They were trying to spend for a while… What was the name? I’m forgetting. It’s not Regeneron. What was the drug?

CLAY: Hydroxychloroquine?

BUCK: No, no, no, no. There’s that. But remember there was the thing that… It was very expensive.

CLAY: The monoclonal whatever?

BUCK: Not the antibodies, monoclonal antibodies. There was a treatment that you could only get in the hospital in the early days. I’m forgetting what it was. (interruption) What was it called? (interruption) Remdesivir! Thank you, team here. Remdesivir. We were giving people that. Remdesivir ended up, at best they think, maybe it limited people’s hospital stays like a day or two. But we were trying stuff —

CLAY: Which is what since is about!

BUCK: — because we don’t know, and the application of ivermectin from MDs to people isn’t, “Oh, hey, guys, I read on the inner webs there’s a secret cure for covid.” It’s, “This is safe, it’s well tolerated. It’s early. It’s worth a shot if you want. It won’t hurt you.” It’s as safe as taking something like a Tylenol or whatever, and people act like, to your point, well, we’re going in and stealing horse injectables or something and stabbing ourselves in the aorta with it. They’re just out of their minds.

CLAY: Yeah, right. Here’s Joe Rogan talking about the inaccuracies in the way his covid treatments were covered. Play cut 3.

TOM SEGURA: (music) Well, well, well.

ROGAN: Well, well, well.

TOM SEGURA: If it isn’t old horse worm Rogan!

ROGAN: (laughter)

TOM SEGURA: I’m glad you’re… I’m glad you’re well, man.

ROGAN: Do I have to sue CNN? They’re making s(bleeped)t up. They keep saying I’m taking horse dewormer! I literally got it from a doctor. It’s an American company.

TOM SEGURA: Mmm-hmm.

ROGAN: They won the Nobel prize in 2015 for use in human beings, and CNN is saying I’m taking horse dewormer. They must know that’s a lie!

BUCK: That’s the point, Clay. They must know it’s a lie.

CLAY: Yes. Yes.

BUCK: And they must know that this is — and that’s why, again, I get so mad about the Kimmel thing because he gives additional oxygen by making jokes about the horse dewormer. It’s not a horse dewormer primarily. It’s for human beings and it saved a lot of lives.

CLAY: Yeah. And look, I think what this is a function of, I think a lot of people just take headlines and presume that they’re true. We saw this with the ivermectin story in Rolling Stone, which was 100% false, but spread like wildfire throughout the internet. And if your team is sharing a story, the presumption is, “Oh, that story must be true,” and there’s very little behind-the-scenes research or analysis that goes into, “Is the underlying story true?” A lot of this stuff can turn into complete lies. Look at Joe Biden said he based his entire campaign on the fact that Donald Trump called the two sides at the rally in Charlottesville good people.

BUCK: If you read the transcript, Clay, it’s 100% a lie. It also feels like a lot of this stuff, it’s just malignant. I mean, there’s a malice, and now we could actually use some of what the terminology would be if you were gonna bring a defamation lawsuit, right? There has to be malice as well as it being untrue statements — you know, intentionally untrue. But I think that what you have is the people that are in charge of our covid policy, after all, at some level know — I mean Biden but also your medical establishment, not your MD in your neighborhood but the people who run the CDC, the medical bureaucracies at the federal government level, Clay, they’ve failed us.

CLAY: They know it. And they know it.

BUCK: They have failed over and over, and they know it, and there’s a lot of anger and anxiety, and there’s a lot of I think mass mental illness and neurosis that have come from this. And instead of the medical establishment — and, again, I mean by that the CDC and everything; so not any MD who happens to be listening to this, but the medical establishment that’s pushed all this government control being honest with us, which would involve accountability for them for being wrong? Clay, I think they just channel all that rage, all that bile as a preferred political target, which is the unvaxxed Trump-supporting only of course —

CLAY: Even though they’re the largest group of unvaxxed people in America are black and would be supporting Joe Biden like in terms of looking at, you know, the socioeconomics and look at their racial groups.

BUCK: For Fauci and the rest of them, it’s either go along with the CNN narrative that the bad guys are you and me and anybody out there who stands in question of — never mind even just against — this stuff, or admit, “What the heck have we been doing here this whole time? How have we made this better than it would otherwise be?”

CLAY: We’ve done zero. We’ve destroyed our economy. We’ve undercut and destabilized massive amounts of American institutions. And in the end, we would have been far better off — I really do believe this — if we had done nothing at all. We would have a herd immunity by now, and kids would have never been out of school as long. People would have not have lost their jobs. It’s chaos.

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BUCK: I’ve been saying really from the beginning of the pandemic that if you understand Alinsky — if you understand community organizing and mass mobilization, largely through symbols and propaganda — you would see that covid is just like an authoritarian’s dream, right? Now all of a sudden, everything that you do — anything you want to do — you can put through the lens of, “Well, we better do this or else there’s gonna be some kind of a health implication.”

There’s no aspect of your life that can’t be engineered under the guise of protecting you from covid. We just see this with the rent moratorium that they went with. All of a sudden, the CDC, Democrats believe they firmly — and for a long time, they got away with this. The CDC could say, “Yeah, you’re not allowed to actually enforce the contract you have with someone who’s renting a home from you.”

And there are some landlords that, I believe, have been turned homeless by this policy because of the renter. They were relying on that rent to pay their own bills and they ended up being homeless themselves and couldn’t go to the home they owned that was being rented to, of course because they couldn’t evict them.

But we’ve seen a lot of this. Once you understand the mentality of the left and how Alinskyite mass mobilization works, once you’ve got people energized on one area in one way, it’s much easier to move them on to somebody else. So when you have them mobilized against corruption, then you can move them to pollution. When you have them mobilized against capitalism, you can then move them on to whatever else comes to mind for you.

And climate change is it. Clay and I were just having a discussion about how I think an emotionally, healthy, normal, rational person spends exactly zero seconds of their life worried about climate change. I believe that this is a religious belief for people who think they’re too smart for religion, Clay.

So let’s just first establish, it’s not like other issues, where income equality, “Yeah, I can see. Sometimes private equity does lever up companies and destroy them and take a whole lot of working-class people and put them out of jobs.” There can be back-and-forth on these issues. You worry about climate change zero. I worry about it zero.

CLAY: I worry about it zero. I mean, honestly. There are so many things going on in my life on a day-to-day basis and some people say, “Well, I don’t worry about it for myself. I worry about it for my kids or my grandkids.” I spend zero time worrying about climate change for my kids and my grandkids too. And it’s obviously not because I don’t care about my kids or, hopefully someday, grandkids that I would have.

It’s because there are a billion other things going on that I’m more concerned about that are more directly related to things that I believe humans can have an impact on. Every time there is a climate change topic — and, by the way, I think I’m the vast majority of the American public, right? I think the vast majority of the American public is so busy on a day-to-day basis got kids that you’re worried about, jobs that you’re worried about web parents to take care of, family members, all these other things going on. I don’t think very many people are worried about climate change.

BUCK: The polling totally backs you up on that.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: That’s clear. But the Bolsheviks were never a majority either, so it doesn’t end it.

CLAY: So what has changed and pivoted in a big way since the first time there is a flood now, every time there is a hurricane — which, by the way, floods and hurricanes have been happening my entire life. I’m 42.

BUCK: I think there’s some stuff in the Bible about floods and things too.

CLAY: I think there might have even been, in biblical times, floods. I understand that people who are smarter than me and go back and look through the eons of sediment and look at where exactly water levels have been, they have fluctuated a great deal over the decades. I’m not worried about it at all.

BUCK: Well, the Democrats are severely worried about it.

CLAY: And what has changed, Buck, is now we get direct, overt blaming of climate change for any climate-related issue. And that did not happen a decade ago. It certainly didn’t happen 20 years ago.

BUCK: Fires in California, hurricanes hitting the southeastern United States, tornadoes in the Midwest, a freak storm in New York City, whatever it may be. You’re right. All the sudden there’s this… It’s almost like an emotional manipulation and blackmail that goes on where Joe Biden shows up and goes (impression), “If we don’t deal with this…” It’s existential,” and he does this whole thing. In fact, here, here he is making the pitch right after we just got hit with some storms. Here’s Joe Biden talking about how we need to take action.

BIDEN: Climate change poses an existential threat to our lives, to our economy, and the threat is here. It’s not gonna get any better. The question is, can it get worse. We can stop it from getting worse. And when I talk about building back better — and Chuck is fighting for my program, our program on the Hill. When I talk about building back better, I mean, you can’t build to what it was before this last storm.

You gotta build better so (sputters) if the storm occurred again, there would be no damage. There would be. But that’s not gonna stop us, though, because if we just do that, it’s just gonna get worse and worse and worse, because the storms are gonna get worse and worse and worse. And so, folks, we gotta listen to the scientists.

BUCK: Clay, this is gibberish. If you were sitting… If he weren’t the president of the United States you were sitting on a barstool —

CLAY: I’d be so uncomfortable.

BUCK: — muttering about the existential threat and all this stuff, you’d think this guy needed professional help.

CLAY: That’s such a good point. Take the fact that all these microphones are out there and just… That’s a great analogy. If you were sitting in a bar and Joe Biden sidled up to you and — let’s pretend we’re dudes and not girls and he’s trying to smell our hair and touch us inappropriately. Let’s pretend it’s me or you, Buck, and he might still try to —

BUCK: He might still try to smell my hair. Yours probably too.

CLAY: Yeah, we do have good hair. So let’s pretend we get past the hair sniffing and we’re like kind of hanging out with Joe. Would you in any way consider his opinion at all to be remotely valid, or would you say, “Of all the people in this bar to sit next to me, I’ve gotta have this dude sit next to me”? He sounds like he is basically drunk every single time that he is talking now.

He’s meandering. He’s not making sense. There’s no logical connection to what he’s trying to say, and it’s disappointing. Look, I always say, I don’t want the country to be led by a laughingstock. Regardless of what your own political beliefs are, we’re led by a laughingstock right now. This guy’s a joke.

BUCK: I wouldn’t hire Joe Biden to be a one-day substitute teacher for an eighth-grade English composition class. And I mean that. I mean, I really… I don’t think this guy could cut it. I think the kids would be getting short-changed on this one. And yet he’s the leader of the free world. By the way, to our point about the nonsense that Biden spews, here you go.

BIDEN: We are determined that we are going to deal with climate change and — and have zero emissions, net emissions by 2050; by 2020, make sure all our electricity is zero emissions.

What do we call #tornadoes… ? https://t.co/OBVclW6ou0 pic.twitter.com/zw4qDxSwf4

— Buck Sexton (@BuckSexton) September 8, 2021

BUCK: They’ll say he misspoke or whatever. But he misspeaks and then doesn’t correct it, right? How can he say out loud zero emissions by last year and not go “I meant”? If he had said, “I meant…” I misspeak, you misspeak sometiems. We speak for three hours a day extemporaneously, but there’s something not right with this guy, Clay, a lot of things actually.

CLAY: That’s exactly what I was gonna say. You and I sometimes don’t get every word perfect on the radio show. We don’t have a script to read from and we’re doing live radio every day. Here’s a good question. You said you wouldn’t hire him to be an eighth-grade substitute teacher, which I think is a great question. I wouldn’t hire him to work at OutKick. We’re in the process of hiring a lot of people.

There’s nothing that I could hire him to do at my company, and he’s the leader of the Free World. I wouldn’t trust him to be able to do it. Buck, what if Joe Biden had to sit down in front of our mic and talk to our audience for three hours like we do? There’s no way on earth that Joe Biden could do our job. There’s no possibility that he… In fact, if he sat down and tried to talk to our audience for three hours —

BUCK: We’d have to invoke the mercy rule. I would, actually. I would be embarrassed, I’d feel bad, I’d throw a blanket around his shoulders and want to get him to some apple juice as soon as possible because it’s clear he couldn’t do it. And, Clay, I don’t think that’s an unfair thing to bring up because they were calling for the 25th Amendment to be used against Donald Trump —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — who would stand up at rallies and put on extemporaneously, which you and I appreciate a lot ’cause we’re just rolling here, folks.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: We’re just doing our thing and just, you know, going off what’s on the top of our minds. He put on the greatest political show on earth off the top of his head!

CLAY: Well, we’re gonna go down to Mar-a-Lago sooner rather than later, hopefully, and we’ll offer the Trump opportunity to be on with us for three hours. By the way, I’d offer Joe Biden the opportunity to be on with us for three hours. I think it would be the single worst decision that the Biden administration could make to put him on with us for three hours, but I think everybody out there listening to us would… I mean, let’s be honest.

BUCK: We should have him for three minutes first. But, yeah, sure, three hours would be fun too.

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