What President Limbaugh Would Do in Afghanistan

23 Aug 2021

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23 Aug 2021

While the Afghanistan evacuation crisis continues and then-Hurricane Henri approaching, Twitter took to criticizing the optics of Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer dancing with unmasked comedian Stephen Colbert at NYC’s “Homecoming Concert” on Saturday. https://t.co/S8WQlWbtdr pic.twitter.com/mqYkn7TkcD

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Nancy Pelosi is at the Napa Valley festival while Americans are trapped behind enemy lines pic.twitter.com/kPeSd66x64

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WATCH: Kamala Harris laughs when a reporter starts to ask her about Americans trapped in Afghanistan pic.twitter.com/7863Seq36C

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Biden Was Warned About Kabul Catastrophe

20 Aug 2021

BUCK: Clay, here’s where I am on the situation in Afghanistan. There’s this cable that has been reported on by the Wall Street Journal that’s saying, yeah, there were some folks who believed and tried to warn the alarm bell that after August 31st — the official withdrawal date — there would be a quick collapse of the Afghan central government; the Taliban would take over.

So the Biden administration could have known, should have known, but clearly — and we should get into the details of what happened at the airport — didn’t know enough to set up a process in place, a contingency, if you will, to prevent us from being in exactly the situation we are in right now.

CLAY: Which catches Joe Biden, Buck Sexton, in a massive series of lies. Just think about what has come out so far this week. We’ve had the intelligence apparatus all say, “Hey, you know what? We warned Joe Biden that things could get worse than what he was recognizing.” We also have all of these different military officials coming out and making the same arguments and the same claims.

And now the Wall Street Journal — in what I would classify as a kind of a blockbuster revelation, Buck. These are 23 different signatories from inside of the Afghan embassy who said back in July — and Secretary of State Blinken acknowledges that he read it. “Hey, all of your expectations, all of the things that you are laying out for our plan is going to fail.”

And they acknowledge that they read it. They acknowledge that they reviewed it, and now we have a situation, Buck — and I think this is pretty massive — where if anything goes awry… We talk about what happened with Hillary Clinton and Benghazi. This could be Benghazi on steroids if one Taliban member decides to start shooting around the airport at some American citizens — if any of the soldiers that are there trying to protect American citizens around the airport — and the American soldiers somehow get drawn into a confrontation?

Joe Biden’s entire presidency… Buck, I don’t think this is crazy at all. His entire presidency could go up in smoke. He is leaving on vacation again! He’s got a press availability — we may take a little bit of it during this show — and then he’s going on vacation. It’s just as if they either aren’t willing to recognize or aren’t aware how tightly wound the possibilities are here of a major conflagration exploding. I mean, is it cluelessness? What’s going on here in the Biden administration?

BUCK: So from the people that I’ve been speaking to who are actively trying to help get Americans out — because that’s where this is. This has become an all-hands-on-deck situation in a sense where no one believes, Clay, who knows what’s going on that the Biden team… They clearly had no plan for this. They were caught completely unready for the crush of people at the airport that’s currently going on.

That’s obvious to anyone. So now you have Americans that are trying to help. I’ve even heard secondhand from people that they’re calling a soldier. It’s ad hoc. They’ll call someone they know is deployed and they’ll say, “Hey, these are some Americans. Can you go and see at the gate?” and they’re calling out the names of people saying, “Are they there?” I mean, can you imagine?

CLAY: Crazy.

BUCK: There are thousands of people who are crowding these checkpoints, and this is —

CLAY: I know. Kids. Kids. It’s not even just adults. It’s a lot of kids.

BUCK: But this is inside the security lines or at the edge of the security lines of American control. This is past the Taliban checkpoint we’re talking about now.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: This is once you get past the Taliban checkpoints — which some people are, some people aren’t. What’s going on on the American side of this, they don’t know, ’cause remember there are Afghans and Americans who are trying to get through these choke points, effectively.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: So it’s a total mess. People are trying to just get word out and get people through. They did not have a process in place. And to your point about the Biden administration, the Biden administration is one bad news cycle away from a collapsed presidency. That much is very clear. And we are entirely in the hands in this case… When it comes to these Americans right now, we’re in the hands of the Taliban, folks.

CLAY: Yes. They control it.

BUCK: The Taliban holds the cards here. They haven’t harmed Americans yet, which is a huge thing. God willing, I’m going to continue to be able to say this ’til every American gets oaf Afghan soil. But you’re also starting to see here the Pentagon spokesman John Kirby when asked how he views the Taliban, this is what he said.

BRET BAIER: Does the U.S. Military consider the Taliban an enemy?

KIRBY: Uh, w-w-we… Our focus right now… Uhh… uh. (sputtering) The — the — the thing we’re — we’re working against right now is — is — is time and space. And we want to get as many people out of Kabul as we can in, uhhh, as little amount of time as we can. There are no hostile interactions right now between American forces and the Taliban, and we want to keep it that way.

BUCK: He is dodging that question, obviously, Clay — and I have to tell you, rightly so!

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Because right now this Biden administration is reliant — and I’m gonna say this, and it’s true and people and I know are veterans. People are gonna seethe over this. We are reliant right now on the goodwill and the strategic thinking of the Taliban barbarians to not harm Americans. That’s where we are.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And of course, Afghans they’re already harming in large numbers, but that’s where we are right now.

CLAY: And honestly you could tell how nervous he was, Buck, answering that question. He was tremulous because, I guarantee you, one of the things that he was told as he got ready to go out there is, “Don’t say anything to antagonize the Taliban.” Think about how crazy that is. We have the general rule of “Don’t negotiate with terrorists.” We are past negotiating with terrorists. The terrorists are driving all of our interactions right now. We can’t even call them terrorists! We can’t even call them enemies. We can’t even say a negative word about them.

BUCK: Clay, we’re the most powerful government and powerful military in the world — at least for now, still; Biden’s doing his best to change that — and we are reliant not only on the goodwill, there is coordination going on right now. Behind the scenes, we’re trying to get U.S. government, NATO-allied government, the French, the British. They are trying to get in touch with Taliban intermediaries and are doing this to open up depths to let people through.

We’re asking, we’re saying, “Hey, can you please let them through.” This is the circumstance we are finding ourselves in right now. And it’s amazing that the Taliban has kept their word. There was a bilateral agreement with Trump. People forget this. There was no agreement with the Afghan government — that never happened — between the Taliban and the Afghan government. Ashraf Ghani fled with $160 million in a helicopter. He could care less. The guy’s corrupt. He’s a bad dude. But, Clay, they’ve kept they’re deal so far not to attack American troops, and that’s what’s holding this whole thing together.

CLAY: I just don’t even know how Joe Biden is sleeping right now. We all know he’s asleep at the wheel in a metaphorical sense, but who’s advising him to continue his vacation? Is he aware and even capable of understanding that anyone of those Taliban right now all throughout Afghanistan walking around with submachine guns, walking around with heavy artillery — much of which, by the way, is United States created. We’ve given them tens of billions of dollars. Reuters with a report they got helicopters. They got tons of Humvees.

BUCK: Attack aircraft! Yes.

CLAY: Yeah, the gear that we have left them. Any one of those guys has an itchy trigger finger, gets annoyed, gets angry and opens fire and American citizens are hit, I don’t know that Joe Biden’s presidency is able to continue. That’s how egregious. Now, maybe Joe Biden’s ace-in-the-hole here, Buck, is that Kamala Harris is so much less popular that there’s no way they would ever try to remove him. But this is… I can’t even remember… You may be able to remember one. For most of us out there in living memory, I can’t remember a more precarious position for a United States president to be in where he holds none of the cards.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: He doesn’t control anything that’s going on right now. He’s relying on the Taliban to make smart strategic decisions. It’s an embarrassment that we ever got here.

BUCK: His presidency is entirely in the hands of the Taliban, a designated terrorist group that we’ve been fighting for 20 years.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That is the reality of the Biden White House as I speak to you right now.

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Alex Berenson Returns with More Data You Won’t Get Elsewhere

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BUCK: We are joined by our friend Alex Berenson. He is an investigative journalist, and you can go check out his Substack in case Twitter gives him issues for telling things that are true, it turns out.

ALEX: (laughing)

BUCK: Alex, Clay and I both have a ton of questions, and we never have enough time so let’s get right into it. Thank you for being with us. Turns out we’re gonna need boosters ’cause turns out you were right. The Israeli data was shows us where this all was heading, and the vaccines failed pretty rapidly. What am I missing?

ALEX: You’re missing nothing. You are correct. Yeah, so last month Twitter repeatedly suspended me for pointing to the Israeli and data and saying this is leading to vaccine failure — and, by the way, as you know, there’s next-to-no evidence that these vaccines in the long run actually reduce deaths. If you look at some Pfizer trial data from their own trial, you don’t see a reduction in overall deaths.

And guess what? You can ban me if you want, although they’ve now let me back on. I’m on my last strike. Who knows when they’ll decide to ban me permanently which, again, thank you for mentioning the Substack. Thanks to you guys and thanks to Tucker, I have almost 100,000 people signed up there so I can get the word out if Twitter does ban me. But, yes, you can ban me, but you can’t ban reality.

And the reality is the data coming out of Israel is terrible. The data coming out of U.S. states and the U.K. is increasingly bad. And so the Biden administration and Fauci and the public health quote-unquote “experts” are all demanding a booster shot — even though they have no idea what the long-term effects of a booster shot are going to be!

CLAY: Alex, where are we going from here? Right? I know you hate sometimes to predict. But I’m just saying, based on the data, Israel not looking good; Iceland also not looking good. You can look at a lot of countries that have had high levels of vaccination. Certainly, the Biden administration acknowledging that when they’re requiring people to get boosters eight months after their final shot. What does the fall and winter look like based on the data that you’re seeing right now?

ALEX: That’s a really good question, and I don’t think we have a really good answer right now. Vaccine immunity does not last, okay? I don’t think anybody can argue this point anymore. That means that vaccines — at least this first generation of vaccines — is not gonna end the pandemic, period. That means it’s not gonna end until everybody is infected.

I can only hope this piece marks a MUCH bigger change in @nytimes’s attitude toward the vaccines, the boosters, VAERS, and everything else – starting with the question of how regulators can approve boosters with NO clinical trial evidence. We will see. pic.twitter.com/Rqh4P0XQbI

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) August 19, 2021

Most — 99%-plus, 99.5%, 99.7%, whatever the percentage is, 99.8% of — people who get this are going to recover. The rest, then some tiny fraction of people will not recover. Once that happens, the pandemic should effectively be over, okay? But all we’ve done in the last several months by giving people these vaccines that sort of temporarily protect them is delay that process. Okay?

So the people who’ve been vaccinated now have a choice to make. They can get a booster and sort of start the clock again, with no guarantee it’s gonna last longer or even as long as their current protection did, or they can say, “You know what? I’m not gonna be vaccinated again, but ultimately that means that I don’t have protection and I’m gonna get sick with covid.” Okay?

I don’t know what percentage of people are gonna do either of those things. And, because in the United States — for reasons that are absolutely inexplicable — we’ve never done a proper survey to know how many people have already gotten covid and recovered, putting vaccines aside, we don’t know what the base level immunity is, okay? It looks actually…

The good news, the one bit of the good news that I want to emphasize people, it looks like natural immunity is really pretty good when it comes to the coronavirus, the novel the coronavirus. It looks like you’re really well protected, even from the variants, okay? Very few people who have natural immunity have gotten sick with the Delta variant. Very few.

So once you get this and you get through it, you seem to be on the other side of it. Now, look, a different variant could come along that our immune systems are less able to recognize, but it looks like natural immunity’s pretty good. But we don’t know how many people have that. So just to sort of look at a state like Oregon, a state like Hawaii. They’re states that have high vaccine rates, but they didn’t have a lot of cases early on.

Oregon didn’t have a lot of cases.

Hawaii locked down.

They’re having tons of cases right now.

So what I’m saying is, this is gonna go on probably through the fall and winter. I think I said this to you guys last week: You can expect that there will be a surge in cases in the Upper Midwest and then it’s gonna roll South. Why do I say that? And I don’t like making predictions, Buck, because the coronavirus makes fools of people who make predictions. But that happened last year. And guess what? The vaccines don’t really work. So that’s gonna happen again.

BUCK: Alex, Buck here, and thanks again for being with us. And we’ve been saying on the show this week, “Just look at the fact that they have a booster that’s now recommended, not just for…” They started with the immunocompromised folks —

ALEX: That’s right.

BUCK: — and then all the sudden it’s, “Well, actually everyone needs one.” There’s so much that I want to ask about this, but I start with a very basic question: How the heck can they know what a…? I’m somebody who sits here now and says that people have to get vaccines in New York, where I am, or else you’re executed from public life. That’s what they’ve done to you now.

Even if you have natural immunity, you still have to get the vaccine, and now you’re gonna get another vaccine on top of that? How can they honestly know what the safety profile is for a vaccine, when they just said…? Have they been doing widespread booster testing? Are we just…? Am I not aware of this?

ALEX: No. Okay. Great question. So I wrote a Substack about this a couple weeks ago. No. They’ve done next to no testing of the booster. Okay? There was some. They went to some of the people who were in the main clinical trial. This was months ago. They said to them, “We’d like to try a third and fourth dose.” That was a couple of thousand people. But those results are not out yet. They do not actually have that data published yet.

Instead, what they have are tiny trials — and I mean tiny — that are “open label,” meaning everybody knows that they got the booster. So that’s not how a real clinical trial or a good clinical trial is run, and all they’re doing is looking at antibody levels following the booster shot. Okay, that’s called a biomarker. That means what we hope is that if your antibody levels go up, we would like to think that what that means is you’re more protected.

But it doesn’t mean we know you’re more protected, and it doesn’t mean we know what the side effects are, and it doesn’t mean we know how long the protection is gonna last. You have to run real clinical trials to do that. They’ve done none of that. My impression — and I wrote this last night on something and also is in the Substack — that they just don’t want to admit how much they overpromised with the vaccines.

And they know… They can look at the data out of Israel too. They know that in a matter of weeks or a month at most there’s gonna be surges in blue states, okay, that Michigan is gonna have a surge, that Illinois is gonna have a surge, and they’re not gonna be able to blame it on unvaccinated people anymore. And in a desperate effort to push that off, they’re telling people to get boosters. This is a horrible way to run public health. It’s so wrong.

CLAY: Alex, I’m curious. When you look at the booster shot… I want to focus on that for a minute, and I’m curious what kind of research you’ve done into this. I can’t remember any adults getting a vaccine and then, after the full dosage of that vaccine, being told in less than a year, “Oh, by the way, you now have to get another booster within eight months, nine months.” Is there any precedent for a vaccine that works like this for adults? And I’m sure there are a lot of other people out there thinking this same thing that are wondering. Have you looked into what the precedent might be?

ALEX: The precedent is the flu vaccine, okay? The flu vaccine.

CLAY: Yeah.

ALEX: But the flu vaccine is for a different strain. Now, a strain is much bigger variation genetically than a variant. You keep hearing about the Delta “variant,” okay? But you hear the different flu “strains.” What that means, basically, the flu is much more likely to mutate and mutate kind of quickly than the coronavirus.

And so the flu changes a lot more year to year than the coronavirus does. So one flu strain is really not comparable to another. These variants are very have been very genetically close, these coronavirus variants. So the fact that the booster doesn’t seem to work very well against one versus another is not a good sign. But the flu shot is the only comparable thing. The other thing I’d like to point out, the flu shot is much, much less dangerous than the coronavirus shot, than the mRNA shots.

The flu shot technology has been around for 50 years. We basically know the side-effects are very mild in most people who get it. The coronavirus shots, their side-effect profile is off the charts compared to the flu shot! So you’re asking somebody to get the coronavirus shot versus the flu shot — there’s no comparison — every year. And, by the way, we’re not even talking about every year. They’re saying eight months. In reality, it looks like you really should get it four to six months after your second dose.

BUCK: Alex, we want to keep you ’cause we got more. (chuckles) This what happens. We’ve got more we gotta ask you about, including where this goes, what you think about vaccine passport future places like in New York know New York City, and also the mask wars playing out in schools right now, the Biden administration weighing in on that heavy. If you want to help, subscribe to Alex’s Substack. Just look up Alex Berenson on Substack, and that’s a place where he can reach everybody with the research that he’s doing that’s, once again, proven to be correct —

ALEX: (chuckles)

BUCK: — despite all the lunatic haters that I see on social media, Alex.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: We are talking with Alex Berenson, who has done, I think, the best job of anyone in the media of covering the data, the analysis, and the situation surrounding covid ever since this whole process began about 18 months ago. And we have a battle that’s continuing — Joe Biden keeps fighting it, Alex; we appreciate you making the time for us — but over masks in schools.

This seems to be the chosen battleground of Joe Biden and the advisors that he has in the White House. So I just want to ask you this. Obviously, I’m pretty fired up about this. I talked about it last week in my school’s own school board meeting. And I know you have kids as well, Alex.

ALEX: Yep.

CLAY: Is there any evidence at all that masks make kids safer in schools?

ALEX: No! No. They’re completely useless for kids. Kids are not likely to get the coronavirus. Well, they may get it, but they’re not likely to get sick from it. They’re not likely to transmit it to each other. They’re more likely to get it from adults. Beyond that, there’s no evidence that masks do any good to protect the wearer, and there’s next-to-no evidence they do any good to protect anyone else — and kids are kids!

They’re running around and playing with each other. They’re not wearing their masks properly anyway. It’s all a joke. It’s all theater. It’s all useless. And there’s a bigger issue here, okay, which is we spent the last segment talking about vaccines and all the evidence pointing out that vaccines really probably don’t work, maybe. I know there’s still people out there — smart people — who think that they may offer some protection from severe infections and death.

We’ll see if that’s true. They definitely don’t protect against infections and transmission. They definitely can’t stop the pandemic. Anybody who looks at the data can see that. What is the Biden administration doing? They are trying to cram mask mandates down the throats of health care workers at a time when hospital systems — all over, not just in the South, in states where there’s not very much covid right now — are under stress because we’ve worked these folks pretty hard for the last 18 months.

Certainly, some of them have worked pretty hard, and so instead of backing off and saying, “You know what? We’re not gonna tell you to resign if you won’t get vaccinated for this thing that you know better than anybody is not probably a big threat to you, you 30-year-old nurse.” We’re forcing these people into a bad choice, and some of them are gonna walk.

That’s gonna increase the pressure on our health care system. Same thing with the booster. There’s no evidence that the booster works, really, but we’re pushing it. I hate to put this… I hate to try to look at Joe Biden and say, “This guy seems to be in cognitive decline, and one of the things about cognitive decline is it makes your mind more rigid. You’re unable to adapt to new information because the world becomes a more and more frightening place as you decline.”

But look at Afghanistan, okay? He seems completely unable to make a course correction here despite the massive failure that everyone can see, and so whether it’s because he’s actually in decline or whether it’s ideological or whatever it is, I am not optimistic, and I want to be optimistic. But how can I be when I see these tremendously bad decisions being made in the face of clear evidence?

BUCK: Alex, it’s Buck again. I gotta say, the disappointment that I have in the medical community overall… I know there are doctors that reach out to you, and I’ve been in contact with doctors from the beginning of the pandemic, who will speak the truth, but they’ll say things like, “I don’t want to use my license. I don’t want to lose my hospital affiliation. I have patients who depend on me.

“If I get canceled, it’s not just I lose this job and I have to go somewhere else. It’s there are people that I’m treating that all the sudden are gonna think, ‘Have I been treated by a quack this whole time?'” There’s a lot of implications for them. All of that said, it feels like until nurses and doctors come out and say, “Forcing a booster…” It’s crazy enough to be forcing vaccines on people in New York and L.A. and San Fran and all these other cities.

But forcing boosters on people where you get a shot or you lose your job, and we don’t even know if it works and we don’t even know what the safety reality is? I mean, this is tyrannical-level crazy stuff. Do you think the medical community — not all of them, but enough of them — will finally say, “We can’t do this anymore”?

ALEX: — speak out against boosters because it’s just so obvious the evidence isn’t there. I don’t know. The problem is that the hospitals in the United States have consolidated to a great extent, and CMS has tremendous — that’s the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services — has tremendous power over these hospitals because they are such a large part of their budgets.

And they are forcing this down the hospitals’ throats. Look, if you’re the executive of a large nonprofit hospital system in New York state or wherever, that’s a really good job. You make $5 million a year. Okay? You don’t want to get in the way of this train. Okay? So you’re not going to. But you have an audience. you have an audience. I have Substack and I’m free. Tucker has an audience but there are not enough of us who can speak the truth right now. And you’re right, doctors have to speak out. I don’t know what turns this around.

CLAY: It is such a difficult question to ask. We’ve got quick hit for you here, Alex. We’re going into the weekend. Do you have anything positive at all to say only 30 seconds here?

ALEX: I told you I think natural immunity is a real thing. I think it’s a good thing. I think it’s possible that in some of the southern states the surges have topped and they’re gonna start to go down. I think if enough nurses and doctors say, “You know what? Fire me, but you’re not gonna be able to run your ICU,” I think maybe the message will get pushed back up. I hope so.

BUCK: Go subscribe to Alex Berenson CMS with everybody. Alex, we always appreciate you, man. Thank you.

ALEX: Thanks, guys.

CLAY: That’s Alex Berenson.

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Another Biden Fiasco: The Taliban Legitimized

20 Aug 2021

BUCK: We had Biden address the nation. Honestly, nothing big from it. Clay and I were thinking about this. We spent the last few minutes of that talking about Biden saying, “There’s lots of logistical challenges. We got it, though, trust us, we got the terrorism mission.” One journalist did say, “Why should we trust you on the counterterrorism mission when you didn’t know the country was gonna fall in the blink of an eye?” which I gotta say —

CLAY: Which was the best question. (laughing) It was the best question, important question.

BUCK: — was a valid and important question there. We’re gonna think that you can stamp out Al-Qaeda cells at will all over Afghanistan, if that is indeed what ends up happening with this country? But here’s the other thing, Clay — I’m gonna put this out there — and then we’re gonna stop. We’re gonna talk fun things. We’re sending everybody off to have a fun weekend but we’ll address it again on Monday.

The Taliban is using leverage here in a way that I think shows they’re trying to pull off something almost mind-blowing in its total scope, which is not only the takeover of Afghanistan in the blink of an eye, but to do so where the U.S. is going to look at them and have to say if — if, if — this continues and the Biden administration says where there’s no U.S. casualties. They’re gonna say, “Okay, we’re ready to be treated like a real nation in the international community.” We have to take seriously the prospect that the Taliban is gonna have a seat at the U.N. within, I don’t know, a year or two. Who knows, right?

CLAY: In the space… Think about this, Buck. In the space of 20 years, the Taliban can have gone from creating such toxic culture and providing cover to Al-Qaeda so that they could destroy the World Trade Center, to now being a legitimate government that we are treating in some way as a representative universe. That’s crazy!

BUCK: Trying to be. Trying to be a legitimate government, right? This could go bad in the blink of an eye but yes. That’s what they’re try to do.

CLAY: The fact that that could happen in 20 years is pretty unbelievable.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: And they have all of the cards in their favor because of how badly Joe Biden has misplayed everything in terms of leaving Afghanistan.

BUCK: Anything’s possible. I’ll tell you, Khadafy gave up their nuclear program in Libya and before we decided to do the whole invasion thing under the Obama administration. Libya, Khadafy was starting to bring Libya into the international community in a way that you go back to the Reagan area and the discotheque and the Lockerbie bombing. You go back into this stuff and you say, “Well, that would never happen.” Anyway… See? Clay, I’m sorry, the counterterrorism part of me starts coming out.

CLAY: We’re gonna talk a lot about this on Monday.

BUCK: I just want to put out there for everybody, the Taliban is positioning itself to have taken over the country will almost no losses to speak of — I mean, very, very few — and be recognized by the international community, including perhaps European countries, not just Russia and China, as a legitimate country very rapidly.

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20 Aug 2021

CLAY: Things have gotten so bad for Joe Biden, in fact, that even his allies in the media — the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, and (with the exception of Joy Reid) MSNBC. Even people there are turning on him, including Maggie Haberman, who effectively say Joe Biden has been lying. She’s with the New York Times. Here’s what she said.

HABERMAN: The administration has given a number of different reasons as to why it was that the evacuations out of Afghanistan did not take place sooner, and those are often in conflict. Sometimes they are blaming Afghanis — Afghans. Sometimes they’re blaming processing in the U.S. systems. Sometimes they are blaming the Trump administration. There is no clear through line. I don’t think it’s hubris. I don’t think that is what this is.

I do think it is a policy choice that President Biden has stuck with for some time and been consistent about. But he said something publicly that did not turn out to be true. And at the end of the day, public officials get judged on that and they have yet to give a coherent answer as to why things went wrong the way they did and how they want to try to fix them.

BUCK: Clay, this is what’s so difficult about trying to analyze what’s really happened with the Biden administration on this issue because they keep changing story, right? You recall we were here together on the show just a couple of days ago; they introduced this, “Oh, we had no choice, because Taliban was advancing so rapidly this year,” meaning back in April and March —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — that U.S. forces were gonna have to be deployed en masse in order to meet them in the battlefield. It wouldn’t have been enough just to give air support. Now, that’s a whole separate conversation of what we were told initially. It’s not what we were told in July when Biden said —

CLAY: July 8th.

BUCK: — they would fight right?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And so that undermines that narrative, and then it was… I can’t even keep it straight. Neither can Biden, he says four days, 40 days, whatever. But a couple days ago it was, “We prepared for every contingency.” Clay, this from people that I’m talking to who are in contact with folks right now in Kabul today. That is a lie. Biden is lying to us when he says that.

CLAY: He’s lying, and the American public is taking note. Because one of the questions we had early this week, Buck, on Monday when this whole Afghanistan mess started to unspool itself, we said, “Hey, it’s a long way away. There are a lot of things going on domestically. How much is the American public going to pay attention to the situation in Afghanistan?”

The answer has been “a great deal,” and we’re starting to get some of these early polls results. Joe Biden is underwater in terms of people who are approving of his presidency even in the polls that we know that can be highly inaccurate. What’s significant here, Buck, is I think we are seeing people who are reasonable Democrats — and I do believe some of them exist — swing voters, independents.

We already knew — most of our audience knew — that Joe Biden was not up to this job. But what they’re seeing, Buck, is the lies of Afghanistan are connecting with the lies on inflation, with the lies on the border, with the lies on covid, and they’re all spiraling together.

And Joe Biden’s big calling card was, “You can trust me; I will make things normal.” And what many Americans are now saying is, “Well, we can’t trust this man and this administration.” And far from making things normal, abnormal has become the coin of the realm. He’s not making things go back to what they were like several years ago when calmness might have existed.

BUCK: Clarissa Ward, who was the CNN reporter who is… Look, I call balls and strikes. I give credit where it’s due. She’s the one person that I’ve seen in years who makes CNN look like it actually sometimes does news. Credit where it’s due.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: She single-handedly bringing the reputation of the entire news organization up from the ashes. But, anyway, she’s on the ground doing a lot of reporting right in and around the Kabul airport, and here she is on the reality of this evacuation. Remember, Biden says they prepared for every contingency. This is going according to plan. It’s a little bit like Frank the Tank. “Keep your composure!”

CLAY: Old School.

BUCK: “Everyone keep their composure!”

CLAY: Old School reference for a nice Friday.

BUCK: It is not prepared. They did not prepare for every contingency. But, anyway, here’s Clarissa Ward. Play it.

WARD: I’ve now spent more than 12 hours watching this whole process as it plays out, and it is very disorganized. And, by the way, you know, off the record, these guys will tell you that. It’s totally disorganized. The left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. It’s an enormous operation. There are many different nationalities involved. You know, we’ve seen planes for Romanians, Hungarians, the French, the Italians.

There’s so many different contingencies who are involved. You have multiple entrances to this airport. We’re trying to negotiate with the Taliban, deal with our NATO allies, and, frankly, so far, I mean, it’s just about moving along. But I was shocked when I came today, because listening to the talking points that I was hearing from the Pentagon and the White House, I thought this whole thing was moving along swimmingly now.

CLAY: This is her today, Buck, saying what she’s seeing on the ground. I want to build on your praise a little bit, because we do try to call balls and strikes and be fair, unlike many other people in the media. This is when journalists actually have real value, Buck, when they can bring you — with their ability on the ground — information that doesn’t exist elsewhere.

I’m not talking about people who want to spread propaganda and talking points. What she is doing right there on the ground in Kabul with almost no one else around, is she is illuminating the disconnect between the Pentagon, the White House, the State Department — all of these talking points that they are putting out and that Joe Biden’s probably gonna put out again — and actual reality on the ground, which is the essence of the job:

Bring us better information than we would otherwise have and show us what’s really taking place. She deserves a lot of praise. High risk. I know you’ve had interaction with her before, Buck, but this is where journalism can actually be valuable to the masses in a big way.

BUCK: I always say journalism is essentially a fiction in this country, but there are some journalists. They do exist.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: They just are about one in a hundred of the people that go around calling themselves journalists. So back to the crisis here, not just the imminent situation in Afghanistan… By the way, you have no flights now. Oh, sorry. Evacuation flights. As I’m saying this, they say, “Oh, they’re actually gonna start back up.” They hadn’t had any for, I believe it was eight hours.

CLAY: Eight hours.

BUCK: It’s just reported in the last few minutes. So they had no evacuation flights going out. Now they’re restarting extradition flights soon. We don’t know what exactly that means. But they say it will happen soon. But Clay, this is where you pull back and you say, “Leadership. When it comes to foreign policy in particular, the presidency really matters.”

When it comes to what we’re seeing play out here, it’s the guy at the top who’s making the decisions. And people are seeing this and understanding this is a really bad situation. This is something where you must lose — and I don’t just mean the situation on the ground. I mean, who’s in the White House. You have to lose confidence if you were somebody that believed Joe Biden knew what the heck he was doing, was a steady hand on the wheel. I want any other hand on the wheel than Joe Biden right now.

CLAY: (chuckles)

BUCK: It’s a disaster.

CLAY: Not only that we should mention the eight hours ’cause I know time zones are complicated. This is no flights taking off for eight hours during daylight, which would theoretically be the safest time for people to be able to enter into the airport and also the safest time for flights to be taking off, because, as anyone out there would know, as you get into it being dark, danger increases exponentially there.

And so this is a failure of daylight in terms of people being able to take off, and it’s going to continue to run. The reality of what life is on the ground right now in Kabul is gonna continue to disconnect and create this discordant symmetry between what the story is coming out of Washington, D.C., and the Biden administration and what the reality is on the ground in this incredibly pressure-packed and dangerous moment.

Biden to speak soon, and then — again, I think we have to keep hammering this, Buck, because it’s significant. Then he’s going to go on vacation over the weekend. Don’t you want this guy in the White House, whoever the president is, monitoring this on minute by minute basis.

BUCK: Sure. Shouldn’t he not be on the golf course getting updates occasionally from aides? You would think that the White House… I’ll say this. The Obama administration, for all of the enormous criticism (chuckling) that I gave them for eight years, they were pretty into the optics. They would try to manage the perception of the…

They had a tremendous amount of help because the media was in their pocket and all the rest. I get it. But this Biden White House, the media is all on their team, too. But they seem so incompetent that they can’t even control the optics, and that’s why that photo, for example, that was put out of Biden sitting in the Camp David command center or whatever.

CLAY: By himself.

BUCK: It looked ridiculous.

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Former NFL QB Jay Cutler Takes a Stand for Common Sense

20 Aug 2021

CLAY: Jay, thanks for coming on with us, man. You are really fired up about the mask mandates and everything else that is out there. In addition to being a first round NFL quarterback, you got young kids —

JAY: Yes.

CLAY: — and you’re saying you’re gonna run for the school board in the county where we live. When should we expect you to be rolling?

JAY: Yeah. That’s absolutely true. I have a kindergartener, a second grader, and a third grader. So, it’s something that I’m passionate about and is important to me. In my district, the guy that has the seat now is up in 2024. So, I got a little bit of time to start figuring this out. But I’m 100% in and I’m doing it.

CLAY: So, what has got you so fired up about this? I know you’re with me on the stupidity of the mask mandate. I’m also curious as a former first round NFL player, quarterback on multiple teams, what sort of conversations have you had with other guys in the NFL about their perspective on covid, the response to it? There’s a lot of people out there who think the NFL has blown this in addition to our schools, right?

JAY: Oh, absolutely. I think that right now we live in a world that’s you’re either extremely on the right side or extremely on the left side, where I think Americans in general are somewhere towards the middle. They lean on common sense. They lean on things that make sense to them at the end of the night. And right now, that’s not the world we live in. So, if you look at the NFL (chuckles) it’s kind of comical.

You send these guys out there, they’re sweating, they’re breathing on each other, they’re tackling, they’re doing all these things, and then you want to put masks on them on the sidelines, you want to put masks on them in their locker rooms and everywhere else. So it just doesn’t make a lot of sense. And I think you look at the school systems now, especially Williamson County, and the school where my kids go to school is actually elementary and middle school.

So the kids with the lowest — pretty much the lowest — chance of catching covid and it being serious are the elementary kids. The middle school’s in there as well. They don’t have to wear masks. Elementary kids have to wear masks. So, they’re all mingling together. It’s just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

BUCK: Hey, Jay, it’s Buck.

JAY: Hey.

BUCK: I know that you got a little taste of the cancel culture world because you’re supposed to have a sponsorship deal with Uber, right?

JAY: Uber.

BUCK: But then your mask situation causes this — or your opposition to masking up children, which I would just say is child abuse and it’s insane and the science doesn’t support it.

JAY: Yeah.

BUCK: But anyone who listens to this show knows that Clay and I both feel that way.

JAY: Right.

BUCK: Is this…? I’m just wondering. The amount of crazy that you were subjected to once this came out, was this an all-time high? The fact that you don’t want your young children to be sitting in school with a completely unnecessary and stupid mask on their faces all day, are the trolls online coming at you harder on this than anything else? I know you’ve been in the NFL for many years, talked about a lot of things. Is this the worst?

JAY: I tell you what. You get a few, and that’s what brings me back to my comment before. I think most Americans are leaning on common sense. It just doesn’t make sense. For every one person I get coming at me, I get 20 comments or messages of support saying, “Hey, I get it; I’m with you.” So that’s what makes me think like, “Hey, we’re obviously in a trying time in America, but I think most people are thinking the same thing.” It’s just they just don’t have an outlet or they don’t have a safe space like they can voice their concerns or their thoughts.

CLAY: Jay, what surprises me… So, first of all, props to you for being willing to say what you actually believe. What surprises me is how many people who are super wealthy and theoretically don’t ever have to make another dollar in their life —

JAY: Mmm-hmm.

CLAY: — are afraid of what people online might say about them. I don’t know if you paid attention to it, but Carrie Underwood liked Matt Walsh, who we had on the show earlier this week, arguing against masks.

JAY: Yeah.

CLAY: And I don’t think she’s made a public comment — at least, I haven’t seen it since.

JAY: No.

CLAY: But I would love to see Carrie Underwood come out, who’s got young kids, like both you and I do —

JAY: Yup.

CLAY: — and just say, “Hey, I’ve looked at the data. I’ve looked at the science. I don’t believe masks work or make young kids safer. You don’t have to agree with me.” But it’s amazing how many people are so terrified of people being angry at them over a opinion like this that they won’t actually throw up double birds and just say, “Hey, this is what I believe. Deal with it.” ‘Cause I think if that happened more often, these mobs that try to cancel people would recognize they really don’t have any power.

JAY: I totally agree. I mean, Mike and Carrie are great. I’m not really gonna speak on where she stands or what she wants to do. But I think we’re heading in a direction that I think we’re gonna see more and more of this, and more people that are going to voice their concerns over the masks and over political things. I just think that we’re heading there. It’s just kind of a slow process at this point. But people like Carrie, people like you, people like Matt Walsh, all these people are fighting back. And I think that at some point, we’re gonna hit a turningpoint where we head in that right direction.

CLAY: Yeah, I wish you have a good weekend but on your way out here I want to thank you for coming on. I know you’ve got a podcast where you’re going to be speaking out more and more about what you think on a variety of different issues.

JAY: Yeah.

CLAY: Where can people find that going forward?

JAY: Yeah, appreciate it. It’s gonna be Uncut with Jay Cutler on PodcastOne and Apple and everywhere you listen to your podcasts. But we’re gonna have some cool guests. We’re gonna have football talk. But I’m diving into kind of everything that I’m passionate about, my lifestyle and everything I do. So, it’s gonna be fun and we’re really gonna kind of take the bars off and talk about things that are important to me and important to the world right now.

BUCK: Jay, thanks so much for joining us, man. Good to talk to you on the Clay and Buck show.

JAY: I appreciate it.

BUCK: We appreciate it.

JAY: Thanks, guys.

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DeSantis Blasts Biden on Masking Children

20 Aug 2021

GOV. RON DESANTIS: He is obsessed with having the government force kindergarteners to wear masks all day in school. In Florida, we believe that that’s the parents’ decision. Joe Biden thinks the federal government should come in and overrule the parents and force these young kids to wear these masks. You gotta wonder: Where are your priorities that you’re so obsessed with this issue and so obsessed with taking away parents’ rights, and you’re letting Afghanistan burn, our border burn, and so many other things.

BUCK: Welcome back to the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. That was governor Ron DeSantis of Florida on Sean Hannity’s show last night on Fox, just pointing out what I think is obvious to anyone who’s paying attention, which is that the Democrats, the Biden administration have decided that masking up children…

This is like the Alamo for them. This is the last stand of the covid resistance. They’re completely dug in on this. When all that… The Biden administration line on this, Clay, for the last… Well, the last time he spoke about it — which was yesterday or the day before — the lie was that there are mask bans in schools. There are no mask bans.

CLAY: Yeah, that’s right.

BUCK: There are governors who are saying, “Parents should make the choice.” So essentially there are no mandates. But banning mandates, they pretend, is the same as banning masks because it gets them into their safetyism place of “Oh, my gosh! They want all the children to die.” These people are completely nuts. The data doesn’t support what they want to do.

But you can tell that they’re very invested in this, Clay. And I believe at some level it’s because if a state like Florida has kids unmasked, when they look at data after the first six months of the school year, it’ll be clear that in New York, where they’re gonna mask kids up…

They might as well put Saran Wrap over their head, on top of the mask. It’s crazy what they’re doing. They’re gonna see the data, and they’re gonna say, “Oh, the mandates don’t do anything.” I think they’re terrified of that ’cause they’re gonna look stupid because they are stupid.

CLAY: That’s right, and I say this. You guys know last week I went and spoke at my own school board. We’ve won that battle in the short term in my home state of Tennessee. I think it’s a couple of different factors here, Buck. One, if you want your kids to be in person for schooling, starting off without them wearing masks is important because it shifts the battleground.

Instead of the battleground being, “Hey, are schools going to be open or not?” you can fight on masks, which is a level beyond, “Are schools going to be open or not?” I think that’s significant. I also think there are lots of reasonable people out there — parents like me who care about our kids more than anything, that would do anything to keep them safe — that look at the data, know that there is nothing in any away that suggests that masking is making anybody safer.

And if you doubt that, look at what’s going on in Oregon, look at what’s going on in Hawaii, look as the number of cases is going to spread into many of these blue states which have been masking like crazy. And they are afraid — to your point as well, Buck — that if you have a control group, right? If everybody does the same thing, there’s no control group to prove that masks don’t work.

If you have a control group — and that’s in Florida and it’s in Texas and it’s in Tennessee and it’s in many other states with strong Republican governors who are standing up for parental choice — that is a significant attack upon the hegemony of global fear porn insanity which is being driven by the Biden White House.

BUCK: Can I also tell everybody there’s more and more of these stories now that are coming out for people who say, “Oh, I’ll just find a way around some of these vaccine mandates.” We’re talking about masks. They’re arresting people!

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: You could say this is deterrence prosecution, but they’ve arrested people for either trying to sell or even now use those little CDC paper cards. So this is gonna become another real battleground. They’re arresting… This is crazy, folks. They’re arresting people based on stupid interpretations of data that aren’t even… They’re arresting people that have covid antibodies because they won’t get the shot, but they don’t want to bend the knee to the vax. The whole thing’s nuts, Clay.

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20 Aug 2021

BUCK: We do you want to get to a few of our folks here for Open Line Friday.

CLAY: Yeah, let’s do it. Let’s hear from them.

BUCK: Joe in Ohio. What do you got, Joe?

CALLER: I was calling to raise a point. I felt compelled to call today. Obviously, everybody knows Joe Biden is not equipped to handle this situation or not doing a very good job leading us through it. But I wanted to raise a point that I don’t hear anybody talking about, which is that the Taliban didn’t just recruit and organize and mobilize this assault and these attacks overnight. Where was intelligence community? Obviously we’ve been fighting a war there for the past 20 years, which goes hand in hand with intelligence operations. But where was the intelligence while this gathering and this mobilization was occurring?

BUCK: Joe, can I just ask, are you a veteran or just a well-informed citizen?

CALLER: A little of both. (chuckles)

BUCK: Okay.

CALLER: I’m from a military family.

BUCK: I got you. I got you. No, ’cause, Joe, look, you’re squared away on the subject. I was just wondering. But what I would say on the intel side is the same way that groupthink can exist for politicians where the person, the adviser tells the president or whomever what he wants to hear gets elevated. That is absolutely true in the intelligence community.

So this was why that cable, that State Department cable that now everybody’s pointing to saying, “See? See? Yeah!” But the guys and gals, of course, who were telling Biden in the government, “Oh, it will be okay,” Clay, they’re the ones that get invited back to the Oval Office. They’re the ones that get promotions and get elevated within the intelligence community. I know because I come from that world.

CLAY: Yeah, and that’s what’s so difficult. We’re seeing a lot of these stories. A great call from Joe. If you missed it, there’s a front-page story in the Wall Street Journal that 23 different Afghan embassy employees wrote and said (summarized), “Hey, you guys are making a disastrous decision. Based on what we’re seeing on the ground, the Taliban’s gonna move much more rapid than your forecast” went to the secretary of state.

We’ve seen people in the military. We’ve seen people in the intelligence community letting it be known that those opinions were out there. But to Buck’s point, you don’t get invited to the White House and become one of the beloved members of the of the Biden administration if you are the skunk at the garden party who’s saying, “Hey, we got a real mess here.” The overall consensus was that this was going to be a success, and the failure here is that there were plenty of people who could have told you it wasn’t, and they weren’t listened to.

CLAY: Within a bureaucracy — especially the federal bureaucracy, friends — it’s not about being right or being smart. It’s about being liked by the people who hold open the doors and can elevate you, and that is a huge “misincentive,” if you will, within the federal government, in the intelligence community, the CIA, the DOD, the you-name-it.

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BUCK: Jim in Florida, a Marine vet who has a translator outside the gate in Kabul. Jim, tell us what’s going on.

CALLER: Yes. I’m a Navy Seabee vet. I was embedded with the India Company’s 36 Marine 2nd Platoon, one in 2010 and then again in 2011. Now, our translator, he gave us a word-by-word translation. That’s why we trust him. He didn’t give us a summary, and he’s outside the gate right now as we speak.

And he tells me just before I called you that there are about six flights a night, that nothing’s happening in and out during the day. And I told him to look for a French or an English convoy because they are leaving the tarmac, and they are picking up the friendlies and their citizens. They’re taking them to the airport.

And I said, “The Americans are not.” I said, “The colonel in charge there has said that you’re damaging the relationship that they’re trying to build with the Taliban government by going outside and getting their citizens.” So I didn’t have the heart to tell him that he’s screwed, but that’s right where he’s at right now.

I’m trying… My congressman, Congressman Posey, his office told me there are flights out of India — U.S. government flights, military — going picking up refugees and taking ’em back to India. And out of Istanbul, Turkey, and another part of Turkey also.

CLAY: Thanks. I’m sorry to cut you off, but thank you for the update of what’s going on. We played some clips from right outside of that Kabul airport, and I think what you’re hearing — and you just heard from our caller there — is the chaotic situations that exist right now are really creating all sorts of major issues going forward.

Buck, again, Clarissa Ward on the ground reporting right now that there are no flights over the past eight hours that have taken off. And as a result, this is a major, major issue. Maybe that’s one reason why Joe Biden’s not addressing the nation as he was scheduled to do, Buck, because they’re aware that they’ve got even more of a mess on the ground today that be maybe they anticipated.

BUCK: The lateness, I have to assume here — and maybe you can’t assume anything about this Biden administration. Maybe it’s just so under duress and wildly incompetent that the normal analysis you would do… I think it’s possible that we’re not even in a normal White House analysis situation anymore because of what we’re seeing here with Joe Biden.

That’s been the case, I think, for a while. But, Clay, to be this late on an address like this you have to think that it’s because there’s either some last-minute back-and-forth about what the messaging should be. Meaning that they’re really unsettled and uncertain about it, or they’re trying to get up to speed with events on the ground and not have foreclosure debacle where they say things that a day later or maybe even an hour later we realize, “Oh, that wasn’t true; they’re really not in charge.

Let’s get Riscalla in Florida. Another Florida caller. What’s up, Riscalla?

CALLER: Hey, guys. I just want to let you know, as a veteran in the Vietnam War, what is happening today is absolutely unacceptable. In the short time that this man has been a president, he has driven our country to the lowest depth that it’s ever been in the history of our country. We’ve left over $1 trillion worth of equipment there in Afghanistan!

Guess who that’s gonna be used against? What about all the people that we left there, and we gave them our word, “We have your back,” and here we are stabbing them in the back instead of covering their back. This is totally unacceptable. What happened to the 70 million people who supposedly voted for Trump? Where the hell are you people, man! You all should be speaking up right now. We should be up in arms with these people. We cannot allow this to continue.

BUCK: Riscalla, we appreciate the call.

CLAY: Well, I think there’s a lot of people fired up, Buck, right? I think the combination of what’s going on with covid, what’s going on at the border, what’s going on with the overall collapse of inflation, people are fired up in a way they haven’t been in a long time.

BUCK: Right. Riscalla, thanks for calling us from Florida. And, Clay, just to your point about everyone being fired up, I’d say Americans now — the ones who are paying attention and have their eyes open — understand that our freedom… This is on the covid side. Our freedom is under greater assault than it has ever been in my lifetime, no question about it.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And simultaneously what we’re seeing in Afghanistan is the people in charge are morons.

CLAY: (laughing) Yes.

BUCK: So your freedom is under assault, and the people in charge are morons. That does not make for a happy American populace, at least for those of us who aren’t the brainwashed sheep who just want to be safe and fed and warm and everything else is the same to them; it doesn’t matter to them at all — also known as MSNBC and CNN watchers.

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BUCK: Francine in Texas, you’ve got thoughts for us. What’s up, Francine?

CALLER: Hey! I just wanted to ask, I keep hearing we had an “insurrection” on January the 6th. I always thought that in an insurrection, people would be carrying guns and rifles. What I saw was the Capitol Police moving barricades, inviting people in, then walking right past the guards. Nobody said a word to anybody.

BUCK: Well, Francine, that’s because obviously it wasn’t — as you know and from your question, I understand this — it wasn’t an insurrection. But that term is used, the same way that Russia “collusion” was used as a weaponized term and it was a lie all along to go against the Trump administration. The “insurrection” is now meant to be a term of derision and suppression of all Trump voters. Everybody who voted for Trump is part of, in the leftist mind, this so-called insurrection. It’s a smear!

CLAY: It’s all they’ve got left.

BUCK: It’s a giant smear.

CLAY: It’s all they’ve got left, Buck, at this point, right?

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: With the way Afghanistan’s going and all the other failures of the Biden administration, the only thing they have left is January 6th. And even the FBI — we talked about this earlier today in the show — came out basically and said it wasn’t an insurrection. There was no organized apparatus attempting to overthrow government, which is certainly Democrats have been arguing for eight months now.

BUCK: An insurrection — and thank you, Francie — is a tremendously serious, grave thing. There are federal statutes about insurrection and rebellion. No one is being charged under those.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: Not a single person yet.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: So it’s like they’re saying, “Oh, this person’s a mass murderer,” then you find out, “Well, no actually they didn’t murder anybody.” Well, then why you calling them a mass murderer?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: They’re just lying about this. It’s not an insurrection.

CLAY: No. If they had the ability to charge, as you pointed out… You wrote a good piece at BuckSexton.com. If they had the ability to charge them with insurrection, they would.

BUCK: They would have!

CLAY: Instead, they’re charging them with many more minuscule violations of statute.

BUCK: They’re going after them for things like “impeding a government function,” and I can understand. I’m not saying that all those laws are not a big deal or whatever — although it’s not that big a deal. But then think about what happened with BLM and the riots all summer and the Capitol Hill autonomous zone in Seattle and the efforts to create all that. All of the madness that Democrats embrace, the burning down of a police station, the attempted burning down of a church right next to the White House, all of that stuff and yet we’re not talking about that, we’re only talking about January 6.

Clay and Buck

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