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Buck Draws Heat for Speaking Truth About Simone Biles

2 Aug 2021

BUCK: Mr. Travis, I gotta tell you.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: I have a little bone to pick here Clay’s saying, “Oh, Buck, you’re talking about how the communists are ruining America and want to throw us all in prison for the insurrection and all this stuff.”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: “How bad could it be talking about sports stuff? Come on in, Buck, the water’s warm! Let’s talk about sports for a minute together.”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: He’s goading me into it. I’m saying, “Yeah, sure I got ideas on the sports stuff too.” Here’s what happens when that happens. This was from last week at Mediaite.com: “‘What’s Brave About Not Being Brave?’ Buck Sexton and Clay Travis Go After Simone Biles for Withdrawing from Olympics.” Even better is the New Republic, which is a left-wing lunatic site.

“The Right’s Culture War Against Simone Biles Is a Con — ‘Oh, it’s so brave,’ said Clay Travis” and Buck Sexton, “who took over Rush Limbaugh’s radio slot…” I’m reading what they wrote here. Yeah, they call it a BS, made-up controversy we’re talking about. First of all, I’m sorry. I thought when you’re a globally recognized athlete in the Olympics, people are allowed to have opinions about your performance and decisions you made in the arena. I thought that’s what happens in the sports world. But, apparently not, Clay. How did this landmine get stepped on by yours truly in a way that seems like it’s just crazy?

CLAY: Well, your boy Bill Maher even called you words we can’t say on the radio on his show.

BUCK: He is a little bit sad, a little bit sad. I’ve been on the Bill Maher show. I always appreciate when they have me on. They know I’m a right winger; they know I add some spice into the mix. But I ended up on the blank-blank list, as they said on the air there of other people (who I will not name) who are on the right, or also on that curse word list because I said this, and all I said he was that this seems like the antithesis of competition at the most elite level to pull out of it. So can we just update everybody, Clay, can you tell where are we now on this story, and then we can backpedal into why was this such a huge deal?

CLAY: So Simone Biles is going to compete, I think the plan is, on the balance beam. So let me take a step back, I guess. So there are three different major competitions that happen with gymnastics in the Olympics. There are the team events, and so that happened first, and Simone Biles pulled herself out of the team event and the U.S. women ended up going on and winning the silver medal.

And then you have the individual all-around, where everybody competes having to do all the different events, and that is where the United States won, I think, with the 18-year-old Suni [Lee], if I remember that correctly, an 18-year-old going to Auburn. She did, the U.S. woman did, stepping in with Simone Biles not competing.

And then they have all of the individual events: The floor routine, the bars, the balance beam, and the vault. All four of those. You can win an individual gold medal in all of those. The only one left now is the beam, and Simone Biles is now going to compete in that, and I believe that will be happening early tomorrow morning for the final gymnastics event.

So she has set out everything since pulling herself out of the team event. It’s probably… I wouldn’t even say probably. It’s the number one story by far to come out of the Olympics so far, is that Simone Biles has not competed. So immediately after she pulled herself out, all of these places started saying, “It’s courageous, it’s heroic,” and so we were responding to that idea that it’s courageous and heroic, and you ended up, evidently, taking a lot of the shrapnel.

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: I think ’cause people are used to me maybe having strong opinions in sports.

BUCK: I think they were upset because Clay Travis has corrupted me —

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: with his sports views, bringing me into his right-wing sports world.

CLAY: I got ripped some, too.

BUCK: Oh, yeah.

CLAY: That’s kind of par for the course.

BUCK: We were both getting ripped. I think they expect that you’re going to take a certain perspective on it.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I just rarely, in my previous career on radio, talked about sports very much. Kaepernick I think some things that would come up at the national level.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: But to the Simone Biles thing — and this, of course, gets left out — I said there’s never any shame in getting treatment for mental health or anything like that.

CLAY: Of course.

BUCK: Absolutely not. It’s the same as, in my mind, someone saying, “Look, I ruptured an Achilles’ tendon; I’m out,” correct? But I ruptured an Achilles’ tendon I’m out is not, “Oh, my gosh. Look how brave this person is.”

CLAY: Correct.

BUCK: It’s just, “I can’t compete,” right? And then when you get into this shifting story, the shifting narrative of, “Well, actually it was some kind of a…” Initially it was the stress, and if you’re an athlete at that level, you’re supposed to be able to as part of this, to handle the stress of competing. Now, you know, you could retire on a moment’s notice. This is a free world, free country. But then it turned into it was a vertigo issue.

So everybody who said responding to the stress… You’re a jerk if you said, “Oh, look how she’s responding to the stress” and whatever — it’s actually unsafe for her. But that was a couple days ago. Now we’re going back to she’s competing again; so did she manage to conquer the vertigo safety issue in a couple of days, or is that just the narrative spawn that’s kind of a trap for people that were criticizing? I got questions, Clay!

CLAY: Those are fantastic questions, and those are the kind of questions you’re not allowed to ask. CNN had an entire segment. Somehow you avoided getting ripped on CNN. Did you see the headline? “White Men Criticize Simone Biles.” So they just went out and grabbed random white guys. One of them is my friend Doug Gottlieb who does a sports talk radio show.

And he was saying (paraphrased), “Wait a minute. How come…? He did a video talking about the fact that men who decided not to compete would get destroyed? And they pulled his clip, put it on CNN, and it was him and a couple of others. I think Piers Morgan they put in there.

BUCK: (impression) “Was it Brian Stelter, though? Is that a Stelter segment?”

CLAY: I’m not even sure who this segment was with.

BUCK: “Oh, gosh.”

CLAY: But the headline was, “White Men Criticize Simone Biles,” as if because of our race, we’re not allowed to comment on the sport? Think about that.

BUCK: They actually tried to transform it.

CLAY: That’s crazy.

BUCK: This was very clear. They tried to transform it. I didn’t even view this as political. That’s why I was so — and you said, “If Tom Brady in the Super Bowl,” which, if you’re a gymnast, the Olympics is by far the biggest thing.

CLAY: Yes. That’s right.

BUCK: There’s nothing else that comes even close, right? For professional soccer players and people like that the Olympics is, to be honest, kind of meh.

A lot of basketball players in the U.S. team — which, by the way, also lost, lost to France recently. For them, that isn’t the biggest event. The biggest event would be the NBA Finals. But so, we’re just talking about it. We’re just assessing this from a sports specter point of view. Clay, I put on my sports analyst hat for a second —

CLAY: (chuckling)

BUCK: — and I got my hand blown on! Like all of us, ’cause I’m conservative, I can’t talk about an athlete making a decision to step away from a sport as not being something that was praiseworthy? It was fascinating but it was really a window into the mentality of the left which here’s what it really is.

CLAY: They tried to take over sports.

BUCK: You’re not allowed to criticize Simone Biles.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That’s actually it. You’re just not allowed to.

CLAY: That’s right, and they’ve also tried to take over sports and make it an entirely left-wing owned discussion point, and that’s what they tried to on CNN. They’re trying to apply the same rules of identity politics there where your opinion on an athlete is entirely defined by what your identity is: “You’re a white guy; you can’t have an opinion on a black woman.”

Well, the reason why people watch the Olympics and watch sports in general is to have opinions on athletes and their performance and whether or not they are the best! Sports is mostly argument. That’s why it has a lot in common with politics, because you watch an event, you look at facts, you look at data, and then you sit around and argue with your friends.

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: What team is better? What quarterback is better?

BUCK: Absent narrative, sports is just fancy exercising, okay?

CLAY: (chuckling)

BUCK: Without actual stories involving humans and their emotions and everything else, it might as well be one of those CrossFit competitions that people watch. I’m always like, you want to watch people lift weights? I don’t get that.

CLAY: I think it’s pretty entertaining, by the way.

BUCK: Look at you. You just know that the CrossFit community is about to rip my head off.

CLAY: I think some of those CrossFit things… You’re gonna climb a rope like 20 feet into the air?

BUCK: I want to be jacked like the CrossFit people.

CLAY: Those people are crazy.

BUCK: I just don’t want to watch them getting jacked through it.

CLAY: Oh. Okay. I understand that.

BUCK: Yeah, that’s a different thing. But the point for me here was, I shouldn’t be taken aback by it at all, but I just thought it was interesting because they made it political under the guise that we were making it political and that actually was just not true. It was not political at all for me.

CLAY: By the way, it’s Suni Lee. I said Suni Kim. I’m probably gonna get… By the way, if Buck said it, not me…

BUCK: Oh my gosh! Clay Travis.

CLAY: Suni Lee, 18 years old, won the Olympic gold. Not Suni Kim. So, congratulations to her. I hope she does well in all this.

BUCK: She’s actually an amazing story and a very happy one in this whole thing so that’s very, very cool.

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Biden Advisor Admits Cloth Masks Don’t Work

2 Aug 2021

As usual, Clay and Buck shrewdly and concisely analyzed the hypocrisy of a senior Biden advisor in precise terms we can all immediately understand: “crap” (Buck); if you follow this, you’re “being a sheep” (Clay). Of course, the guys had a bit more to say than that about epidemiologist Michael Osterholm’s new revised statement that cloth masks don’t work and we should all be looking more into “N95 respirators.”

Buck’s reaction was so gigantic that it was “like a nuclear explosion of I Told You So going off inside my brain.” Clay’s full analysis was immensely more brilliant than the government hack in question.

Listen here to Clay and Buck’s clear outmatching of the oblivious Osterholm:

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2 Aug 2021

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Eviction Moratorium Ends, Dems Protest

2 Aug 2021

CLAY: For those of you out there who are familiar with the history here, there was an eviction moratorium that was effectively put in place which may have made initial sense with the ridiculous lockdowns back in March of last year. But we have continued to extend that eviction moratorium. We have continued to allow covid madness to govern our decision-making.

And we finally now are coming to the end of the eviction moratorium, and, not surprisingly, there is now an uproar — and I think this goes to a larger context, why you have to be careful with the rules that you put in place because, as you well know, Buck Sexton, once people get used to something, it is very, very hard to take that away from them without being considered the Grinch.

It’s easy to give people things, but there’s a great psychological study where the risk of a dollar… If you have a dollar in your hand, you’re less likely to risk it to try to earn two dollars than if you don’t have that benefit in your hand. Now that that benefit exists, this is a question that many of us have been asking for a long time: How do you go back to normalcy?

How do you dial back the insanity and start to return to some form of normalcy and something simple like landlord-tenant relationships, which historically, the landlord gets paid by the tenant in order for the tenant to occupy that location! That hasn’t been the case, there have been all sorts of issues, and finally we’re getting back to that normal relationship, and Democrats aren’t happy.

BUCK: Only $3 billion of the $47 billion in aid authorized by Congress already to help renters pay their landlords has actually, Clay, been delivered to landlords as of June 30th. So that’s the most recent data we have: $3 billion of $47 billion! This is a remarkable case study in so many things. One is, this is just the government.

This is effectively the seizing of property without due process. I mean, they can call it whatever they want. They can say it’s a health emergency, yada yada. But at the end of the day, they’re just taking money from some people and giving it to other people under the assumption that this is more fair, this is better, because we’re in the middle of a pandemic. But there are still… There are people who own properties who are landlords who now they’re behind on the payment they have to make to the bank.

CLAY: Yes. Everybody has fallen behind.

BUCK: They’ve had to run up credit card bills that they wouldn’t have otherwise, people buy homes because it’s part of their retirement portfolio. There’s so much going on here. This was just an arbitrary, mass hysteria-based decision among so many others during the covid pandemic. And what you see right now is, if they accept that the eviction moratorium ends, that’s yet another data point for, “Well, then isn’t covid over?”

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: So then how could you be calling for mask mandates or vaccine mandates if the eviction moratorium is over? Oh, is this all kind of arbitrary and based on whatever some of the people in power feel like and also think will benefit? Oh, it’s that? Okay. So it’s not “the science” pushing all these things. (chuckles) That’s why I think the eviction moratorium is such a third rail.

Nancy Pelosi is getting a lot of pushback from the more progressive members of the House ’cause they love this. There’s a whole movement in social justice circles on the left, Clay, for “occupying private space,” meaning that you just go in to someplace where someone doesn’t live and just stay there and say, “I’m going to occupy this,” meaning, “I’m not gonna pay you.” It’s essentially like glorified squatting.

CLAY: Squatting, yeah.

BUCK: Because they view this as a form of redistributing wealth, from the land-owning class to the have-nots.

CLAY: It’s basically what’s going on all over California. There are people listening to us right now in some of the nicest areas of California where the homeless have just set up squatter rights like right on the beach. So you can live in a multimillion-dollar place in Orange County, be walking down to the beach, and not feel safe to walk to the beach because of all the squatters. I just got back from L.A.

Venice, which had become a really desirable place to live, is now filled with homeless encampments, and people don’t have any interest in leaving. Santa Monica. All these different places which are otherwise beautiful, have been taken over by the homeless. And to your point, Buck, it’s not even just tenant relationships with landlords in terms of individuals.

The entire industry of property management has been torn asunder by the covid realities in that forbearance of issues. People forget that, almost every property, the owner has a mortgage on that, too! This goes, to me, TO the Democrats not understanding the way that basic business exists, in that the landlord has typically a note on the building that they pay for based on what the tenants are paying them. There’s a large flowchart, and all of it is torn asunder when you give basically never-ending moratoriums.

BUCK: And you have to wonder what’s gonna actually happen for a lot of these landowners who are behind. Are they gonna manage to get made whole here? It’s $3 billion of the $47 billion. So that’s one thought that I have, because they’re remarkably slow with this, and just the notion that you can decide that in a health emergency like this that lasts for months and months, you can just take people’s property? What they’re doing is taking property.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: You are saying to people, “Well, we would prefer if people didn’t have to pay,” ’cause, by the way, what is exactly the epidemiological basis for you can’t not be in your home? You know what I’m saying? Rather, you have to stay where you are. People are gonna work. People are front line workers. I understand this is appealing, this notion of the eviction moratorium. “Oh, no one can be kicked out of their homes.” Okay. Well, then why should people ever be kicked out of their homes, Clay? It’s a mean thing to do.

CLAY: It’s an interesting perspective, right? Because initially the government mandated lockdowns, which meant that many people could not work. But now we’ve reached the point in 2021 when there are over nine million open jobs. For most of American history, I believe, this is the highest amount of open jobs. And there’s a ton of people out there listening to us nodding.

If you drive around in any city right now, there are big placards up begging people to go to work. So I think it’s hard to feel bad for someone. I understand it initially when we made the disastrous decision to ever put in place lockdowns. If you’re not allowing people to work for a two-week process, okay.

Remember 15 days to slow the spread? Well, it’s been 18 months. So at some point you have to end this because, to your point, Buck, if you ever owned a property and had to go through the eviction process its pretty time-consuming in many cities and it’s almost become impossible over the past year and a half.

BUCK: And there are stories of people who have run through their entire life savings because they poured it into a property that they were then renting out and trying to build financial stability. But during the pandemic, they had squatters —

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: — or, rather, people that were refusing on pay them any rent because of — particularly in California and New York — incredibly favorable laws, there was very little recourse that they to deal with.

I mean, there’s also at this level of… You see PPP and these different government programs. The government’s not even very good at shoveling money out of helicopters to people. I mean, the government can’t even get this particularly right because if they could, it would have been, “Well, if you lost your job you were supposed to have people that were able to get paid by their employer.”

So they would stay on payroll, but we still had millions of job losses, businesses shut down, closed down. I also was opposed to shutting down any businesses in the first place. So that’s a whole other thing.

CLAY: Yes. Yes.

BUCK: The whole notion of lockdowns in general. Because anyone who says, otherwise I would say, “We never actually locked down. We did partial lockdowns of some businesses at some times in some places, while a lot of people were just continuing on with their lives.” But Clay, there’s an addiction here at a broader level — an addiction to rule by emergency that the Democrats.

If you’re an authoritarian, this is amazing to you, because you don’t have to worry about, “Is it constitutional? Am I respecting private property or the rule of law?” It’s an emergency! We have to do this! Just like they kind of did in 2020 with the election laws in a whole bunch of states. It kind of reminds me of that.

CLAY: Not only that, Buck, there’s an argument out there — and some people really believe this — that the Delta variant threat is being exaggerated because it provides cover to infrastructure and the budget bill. As this process is playing out, what’s back on the front pages and all the discussion? Covid. What’s not being discussed? The biggest expansion potentially in taxes in American history. It’s all sliding right under the radar.

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WARREN: The Delta variant is more contagious, threatening to spread faster among the half of the country that remains unvaccinated. Needlessly evicting families would risk escalating our public health crisis. The CDC understood that reality when it issued an eviction moratorium in September. The agency was clear — and I want to quote the language they used — “Housing stability helps protect health.” It’s right.

BUCK: Welcome back to the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. There you have Elizabeth Warren saying (impression), “Housing stability protects health.” If that’s true, Clay — and let’s just assume for a second that is true — wouldn’t it be nice if we could all just alive in a place where everyone gets to live in their house and not pay any rent?

That would make a lot of people happy, that would be really nice. Tthey tried something sort of like that in the Soviet Union I know that’s not we’re doing here. But the principle starts to go to pretty interesting because, yeah, of course you could make this assumption that people should be able to live rent free indefinitely, you know, why not? Well, there are reasons in fact.

CLAY: In fact, the people who live rent free or pay the least rent often live in the most crime-ridden neighbors in America, of course. But the logical extension of many of these Democrat policies is to eliminate capitalism — which is what allows America to thrive — and replace it, as you said, with communism. There’s a lot of those, you know, 1940s and 50s cinder block buildings where people were able to live in Russia.

Now, the elevators didn’t work. They didn’t have any heat or air in those buildings, and eventually everybody fled outside as capitalism came in some way to Russia. It fails, right? Government mandated programs overwhelmingly fail over time because allocating resources to government as opposed to the free market is a failure almost all the time, because government doesn’t move fast enough and because it disincentivizes — as we’re seeing right now with the tax increases that Joe Biden’s trying to rush through under cover of the way of darkness, by the way, the biggest tax increases ever — it’s all madness.

BUCK: Yeah, this is why central planning, which is the root fallacy of socialism and communism that you can have a bunch of experts that make the decisions for everyone, everywhere that will be in the best interests of those individuals. This plays out in all aspects of society in ways where we see the results are bad, but there’s emotional appeal here. There’s a sense of, “Oh, but what are we going to do?” I mean, here’s Congresswoman Cori Bush who’s out there saying, you know, you’re gonna have millions on the street unless you keep this eviction ban going.

BUSH: So if we need to streamline the procedure of how the — how this is supposed to happen and just say, ummm, just put it into the text that we need to make it the — the money should go directly to landlords, if that’s what needs to happen, let’s do something. I think that we are… We should be thoughtful enough to try to figure this thing out so that anywhere from seven million people to 11 million people don’t end up on the street. Because look, we haven’t fixed the housing crisis that we already have. How do we put more people on the street and then end the — and then in a deadly global pandemic that is surging!

BUCK: First of all, the “surging” thing? Enough, okay? The cases are going up. They’re much lower than they were, and deaths and hospitalizations are — nationwide — very low, entirely manageable as a health issue. I know we’ve said this, Clay. I just feel like we have to just keep the repeating it because the madness is all over the place. Then beyond it, what exactly is supposed to happen here? What is the…? So the Democrats want what? So then every landlord in America has to be made whole by the government before anyone can be evicted? How long do you think that’s gonna take?

CLAY: Not only that, it’s wildly inefficient, and I would just come back and respond to Representative Cori Bush there. By the way, I think the last time we talked about her on this show was maybe when she was denegrating America. Didn’t that happen on July 4th where she said America is an awful place? I feel like we were ripping her to shreds. She makes a living off of taxpayers and therefore expects the taxpayers should pay for everything.

But the answer here is — and I hate to be crass, I hate to be totally and imminently reasonable — people need to go get jobs and fill some of the 9.2 million open jobs right now in America. And if you go get a job, you can afford a place to live because American jobs right now are paying wildly exorbitant salaries, partly as a result of this Joe Biden inflation environment. But there’s a ton of demand for jobs.

BUCK: This is the closest that the progressives have ever gotten to universal basic income — the pandemic — with the unemployment benefits, the eviction moratorium. They liked it. But you mentioned Cori Bush, what she said on Fourth of July. I just want to remind everybody, this is a member of Congress. She tweeted out, “When they say that the Fourth of July is about American freedom, remember this. The freedom they’re referring to is for white people,” end quote.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That was her, “Yeah, Fourth of July. Enjoy your time with friends and family. America’s a racist, horrible place.”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: She’s a Democrat. Anyway, as a Democrat, that’s fine.

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House Intel Report: Covid Leaked from Wuhan Lab

2 Aug 2021

CLAY: I don’t think you’ve seen this. The House Intelligence Committee, the minority group of the House Intelligence Committee, has just released an additional findings, they believe, on covid. They’re releasing it because they believe it will help inform public debate about what happened with covid. They say, “It’s the opinion of the committee minority staff based on the preponderance of available info and all the attempts to hide and destroy evidence, that covid was accidentally released from the Wuhan Institute of Virology laboratory,” and this is kind of interesting, Buck, “sometime prior to September 12th of 2019.

“The virus may be natural in origin or the result of genetic manipulation,” they say, “and was likely collected in the caves in Hunan province sometime between 2022 and 2025. Its release was due to poor lab safety standards and practices exacerbated,” the House minority staff says, “by dangerous gain-of-function research being conducted at inadequate biosafety levels. The virus was then spread throughout central Wuhan, likely via the Wuhan metro.” That is really interesting, because we haven’t seen a story, Buck, about September of 2019 as being the release date.

BUCK: It’s going to seem more and more clear as evidence piles up that this was a lab leak. No matter what Facebook says, Clay. No matter what the social media giants try to censor.

CLAY: Yeah, I don’t think there’s any doubt.

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D.C. Mayor Violates Mask Rules, Obama Throws Big Party

2 Aug 2021

CLAY: We gotta talk about this because it’s not being covered very much in the Washington, D.C., area or by national media. Remember the Washington Post slogan that they put at the top of their newspaper, “Democracy Dies in Darkness”? Well, interestingly, D.C. now has a mask mandate — vaccinated or unvaccinated — indoors, and Tiana Lowe at the Washington Examiner caught mayor Muriel Bowser of the Washington, D.C., officiating a wedding and then dining with hundreds of unmasked people indoors as a part of that wedding.

I went and looked on Sunday, Buck Sexton, because I thought, “I wonder how much attention the Washington Post is giving to this flagrant violation of D.C.’s new mask policy by a powerful person — the mayor of Washington, D.C. — given the fact that they have ‘Democracy Dies in Darkness’ emblazoned at the top of the Washington Post?”

It was on Sunday; I can’t even find it on their website now. On Sunday, it was the sixty-first lead story that this had occurred, and it was the twenty-fourth covid story on the Washington Post website. A huge majority of Washington Post readers are never going to know that their mayor doesn’t even believe enough in the mask mandate that she’s put in place to follow it for even 24 hours after it began.

BUCK: Just think for a second, Clay, about the reaction — and I know this game. We as conservatives have to do this all the time. Conservatives have to, but we have to. Imagine you had a Republican mayor who was somehow involved in this kind of hypocrisy, or even a Republican mayor who was at a ceremony like this and they had photos of it and they said, “Look at what a super-spreader event!” It would be a super-spreader event, right? That’s what they’d been calling it. Another example of this is the phenomenon of the 500-person birthday party. Now, Clay, you’ve got a lot of friends, but 500 people? That’s a lot of folks.

CLAY: That’s a big party, yes.

BUCK: A 500-person birthday party at former President Obama’s $12 million house in Martha’s Vineyard, which is actually kind of like a mid-level house in the Vineyard. (chuckles) The Vineyard is a place where you can spend outrageous sums of money. But obviously the guy is in a giant, beautiful mansion, and 500 people at his party. Now, I have no problem with Obama doing this. I want to be very clear. I think Obama should be able to have a party for thousands of people, but I’m not a Democrat who’s lecturing everybody all the time about mask mandates and vaccine mandates and all rest of it.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I’m consistent. If Obama… Forget about him for a second. If Ron DeSantis, even in Florida, were holding a 500-person birthday party right now —

CLAY: People would lose their minds.

BUCK: — where the Smashing Pumpkins will be, by the way? Kind of overrated nineties band.

CLAY: Weeeell…

BUCK: I love nineties rock.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: They’re okay. I’m not gonna say… Better than Green Day? Maybe. But the reality here is if Ron DeSantis was doing this, Clay, it would be considered an act of mass human sacrifice. They’d be comparing everyone who attended Ron DeSantis’ party to Jim Jones, Kool-Aid-drinking cultists.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: And I’m sick of the bull crap. Like, we all know that there’s no actual standard they use to judge these things.

CLAY: No doubt. And Obama’s party, by the way, is on Martha’s Vineyard. So everybody is not only going to his party, they’re traveling to it. Right? It’s not as if he’s having a party in New York City or Washington, D.C., where many people who would be attending the party already live. Martha’s Vineyard is…

I would bet, I would venture to say, of the 500 people that will be there, I bet 450 of them are traveling to Martha’s Vineyard expressly for the former president’s party. If Trump had a 500-person party at Mar-a-Lago for his birthday, people would lose their mind. It’s not even a current sitting elected official. It’s former president Trump, people would say, “Oh, look, Trump continues to say that covid doesn’t matter!

“Look, he continues to put his life and his fun above everything else. Oh, look at the lack of science that he’s following!” Obama does it and, by and large, most people are going to ignore it. Even worse than that, Buck, the media’s going to make excuses for them. They’re going to say, “Well, but it’s outdoors. Well, but they’re testing people for covid. Well, but people are vaccinated. “Whatever the case may be, the story of why the CDC decided in many ways to reinstitute the mask mandate came from a party July 4th in Massachusetts!

BUCK: In Cape Cod.

CLAY: In Cape Cod! Basically the exact things that he’s doing.

BUCK: Excellent point. Completely true. A big party led to the panic that has now swept across the whole country.

CLAY: With all vaccinated people! It’s the exact the same thing Obama’s doing.

BUCK: But this is exactly what you see playing out time and time again where covid has been used by the lockdowners as a weapon against their political opponents and as a tool of control. So, when you have anti-lockdown protests in the beginning of the pandemic, it’s, “Oh, my gosh. These are super-spreader events!” BLM starts in June of 2020, it’s, “Oh, this is good for public health!”

CLAY: This is an exception, yes.

BUCK: “They’re going to save lives,” and you even saw this recently… We’ve talked a bit on the show about Cuba. It’s dropped out of the headlines. I think unfortunately the regime is gonna manage to crush the people under their bootheel once again. But you started to see reports in the last week or so, “Those freedom protests in Cuba coinciding with a bit of a spike,” just to the media can show everybody, “Oh, we like the regime in Cuba a little bit and so we’re willing to criticize the protests as covid spreader events.” This is always the tell, and it happens all over the place.

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FAUCI: So a person’s individual — individual — decision to not wear a mask not only impacts them because if they get infected, even though they say, “It’s my decision. If I get infected, I’ll worry about that.” But the fact is, if you get infected, even if you are without symptoms, you very well may infect another person who may be vulnerable, who may get seriously ill. So in essence, you are encroaching on their individual rights because you’re making them vulnerable. So you could argue that situation both ways.

BUCK: Welcome to the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck, and that was “The Fauch,” and you heard him over the weekend making this case, which has really been what their mentality is all along. This is how they think about things. Their unreasonable anxiety, the lockdowner mentality — the virtue signaling, the sanctimony that goes along with it, all of that — they’re not gonna let it go.

And you have to live by the rules dictated by that madness. So, Clay, in essence, it’s like “The Fauch” saying (impression), “My mask is your mask. Your mask is like my mask, and we’re a happy mask family — and shut up, take the shot, and double mask.” This guy has been… At least he’s been consistent in being awful.

CLAY: Well, the problem with the logic of the clip that we just laid out is, that doesn’t just apply to covid. What Dr. Fauci is effectively arguing is if you are ever sick and you ever get someone else sick for any reason, then you are in some way culpable for that, which is directly contrary to anything that we’ve ever said about viruses in the past. The flu exists every year. Colds exist every year.

To my knowledge, we never sit around and argue about, “Hey, who’s responsible for how I ended up sick?” Because the attenuated nature of viral transmission is so difficult that basically viruses spread — in general — through the course of normal human interaction. And that is a bargain that all of us have had to make throughout human history that in order to be human, there comes with it some risk, and one of those risks is virus.

And that’s why, Buck, I’ve been making this argument for years and years, and I think it’s a good one, that it’s worth circling back around to. And I’ll give credit to my old high school econ teacher who came up with it the first time I ever heard anybody say it. You can’t eliminate… We agree that life requires with it a certain level of risk, and I’ll give you an example, and this is one that I’ve been using for decades.

We could make cars that would guarantee, Buck, that no one ever died. How would we do that? We could put a governor on a speed limit, and no one would ever be able to drive more than 20 miles an hour. You would have to be a pretty big imbecile in a car to die driving 20 miles an hour. I mean, you could still drive off a cliff, I guess. There are certain ways that you could still allow yourself to die at 20 miles an hour.

But it’s almost impossible to die at 20 miles an hour. But society has decided that for the purposes of driving — 65, 75, 55, whatever mile per hour we’re willing to take — that we’re willing to have 40,000 people a year die because we value speed, and we balance that out with loss of life. How are we not doing that now?

BUCK: You should also have to mandate helmets in cars, by the way —

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: — ’cause head injuries in cars are much more common that lead to death than for cyclists. But that’s a whole other conversation.

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BUCK: We are trying to make sense of the madness, an island of sanity in a storm of Fauci-ite crazy. We were just talking about before how he says you don’t have a right to breathe fresh air like a normal person has for all of human history, because other people have a right to not be exposed to your microscopic germs that you have no control over. So what we’re getting now into the end stages of what you could call the Fauci-ite madness.

You could call it the lockdown consensus or just the “anything to beat Donald Trump in 2020 and leverage all of the panic and fear possible to do so” strategy. But here we are now starting to deal with the new reality of people saying… Clay brought up a moment ago, two astute points, one we were making and many conservatives were making in the beginning of this whole thing, “Why not have a 15-mile-an-hour speed limit?” and people said, “Oh, you just want grandma to die” to that point, ’cause we don’t think it’s a fair trade to make everybody drive slow.

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: I brought up the thing about bicycle helmets. If anyone does a quick look at the stats, far more people die from head injuries in car crashes than on bicycles. It’s not even close. So why shouldn’t everyone be driving around in their car with a serious helmet on? They do it for NASCAR drivers. Why not have everybody do it? We all understand at some point it’s crazy. And, Clay, here is Dr. Megan Ranney on CNN kind of saying the quiet part out loud.

RANNEY: We are never going back to a pre-pandemic reality, and I do agree that we do have to become comfortable with the fact that this virus is going to be sticking around. Our goal is to decrease severe illness, hospitalization, and death. Listen, there are 200 hospital workers in San Francisco who’ve gotten sick over the last couple of weeks because of exposure, largely to unvaccinated people who caught Delta who then got the vaccinated sick.

That’s not fair. So, yes, we have to learn to live with this. But today is not the moment where we drop our precautions. When we get all of our kids vaccinated, when we know a little more about the long-term effects of the breakthroughs, then that’s the point at which this becomes yet another virus that is part of our day-to-day life.

BUCK: I just… “We’re never going back to our pre-pandemic reality.” That’s the part that we have to fight against with everything we have. That’s the part we have to summon or vision of what we’re doing to people in Australia and France and Germany, like state-sanctioned psychopaths, Clay. We cannot allow it.

CLAY: Well, and we’re to the point now where covid is the eighth or ninth leading cause of death in the United States, if it’s even that high right now. And I’ve been arguing this for over a year now. But at some point, the obsession with covid because it’s new… If we’re going to be obsessed with health, instead of mandating masks and lockdowns, we should have mandated diets and exercise.

Because the number one way that you could help to protect yourself from covid for much of the last 18 months was by being as healthy as you possibly could, because you can’t control your age, but obesity was one of the massive causes of death associated with covid. If you were obese and you were elderly, covid struck you at a high rate and crippled and killed many people with both of those aspects.

It’s if you were overweight and you were elderly. But we didn’t say anything about, “Hey, exercise more, diet, get your weight under control.” Instead, we said, “Mask and go into your house and never leave. Eat Cheetos and watch Netflix.” We overall increased the average amount of weight that people in America weigh and we were already a fat country.

BUCK: Are you trying to offend our Cheetos-eating listeners? Some people like Cheetos, Clay.

CLAY: I am fat shaming. You can’t fat shame. I know.

BUCK: Don’t be throwing shade at Cheetos.

CLAY: I eat very unhealthy compared to my wife who is gonna live to be 115 years old. But to what extent are we only going to single out covid as if no other illness exists, as if no other way of death exists — as if, frankly, we are ignoring many deaths that are occurring because of our response to covid. Again, if you look at… I’m big on looking at years of life lost, because people to want look at life loss.

Well, we’re all… Spoiler alert. On a Monday in the summer, I’m sorry, as we roll into August. All of us are gonna die, right? Spoiler alert. I hate to hit you with it. What we try to do is make sure that as many people as possible can live long and healthy lives. And what we’re seeing is, the lockdowns are taking many more years right now — I really believe this — off of people’s lives.

Thirty thousand more people died of drug overdoses than have ever died before; the average age of those people are in their thirties and their forties. Well, they lost 40 years of life and think about the math on this. If you look at the average age of death, if somebody’s 40 years old dies, they lose around 40 years of life. Buck, if somebody who’s 80 dies, they may lose a year or six months of life. Years lost is a big deal when it comes to quality of life and life loss.

BUCK: We can’t even agree that it’s not a… Yes, everything you said there is true and worthy. But, Clay, it’s like we can’t actually even get people to all agree right now that instituting a mask mandate in Washington, D.C., when you’ve had two people die in two weeks… You don’t even have a person a day in a city of three-quarters of a million with very dense population in a lot of the city.

We’re treating this as though numbers no longer matter. There’s an obvious effort among some of the Democrat-aligned media to downplay the fact that deaths are very low from covid right now even with how many weeks has the Delta variant been spreading? Los Angeles County the last 14 days, I think it was either six or seven on average a day. Los Angeles County has millions of people! New York City has eight million people!

You’re losing a person or two a day in New York City, and we’re still having this conversation? I got told… Clay you’re gonna be here tomorrow. Don’t worry. I speak lib and I will protect you from the crazy libs here. I just… I know how to distract them. I’ll start talking about intersectionality, because when someone from Nashville who loves freedom shows up, they get very anxious.

But you’re gonna see. There will be stores you go into, restaurants, who all of a sudden are saying, “We gotta go back! We’re in so much danger.” We’re not in so much danger all of a sudden. This is the foundational lie of the panic right now. We’re going to be okay. We are managing this. Everyone needs to calm down, and we need to go to a fully pre-pandemic reality in our day-to-day lives. That’s the point they won’t concede.

CLAY: Amen, and we have the data to reflect this is what is going to happen with the Delta variant because you can look at what happened in India and you can look at what happened in England, and both of those countries got the Delta variant before we did. We’re going to see a spike in overall number of cases. Although hopefully, we’re not going to see that much of a spike in deaths or hospitalizations relative to what we’ve seen before.

And then those numbers are gonna recede. And here’s the deal, Buck. The reason why they need to institute all these new changes is because if they do nothing and we see a little curve and then it comes back down, you’re going to have even more evidence of the truth, which is almost everything we’ve done is cosmetic theater that has had virtually no impact on the spread of the virus.

BUCK: And for anyone who might wonder for a second — any reasonable person who might say, “Hold on, what Clay just said is true. But who could be so diabolical that they wouldn’t want to know the truth about what works against covid and what doesn’t when it comes to mitigating the spread?” Let’s be very clear: As Clay and I said many times, vaccines are effective in bringing down deaths and hospitalizations.

That’s been proven true in the data all this other stuff we’re talking about, the lockdown theater, the people who don’t want us to get to the truth are the people who are held accountable — not just Fauci but the whole health apparatus, all the blue check MDs out there who have been making jackasses of themselves for over a year now on TV demanding these things, demanding you mask up your children —

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: — and ultimately at the top of all this, too? The Democrat Party’s power apparatus. What happens to the Democrats in the midterms if we all figure out that, one, they basically lied about how Trump was so awful with the virus to beat him. And two, they’re a bunch of clowns who actually ignored the data while they were screaming #science all the time I think that plays badly for them, Clay, among independents and persuadables.

CLAY: I think this is playing awful for them already, Buck.

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