Dem vs. Dem: De Blasio Says Gov Must Resign

3 Aug 2021

BUCK: Mayor de Blasio said this. Remember, de Blasio this morning…

CLAY: They hate each other.

BUCK: They absolutely despise each other.

CLAY: For people who don’t know.

BUCK: Truly. And they really do. And this is not some act they put on. They really hate each other. Cuomo is considered by many in New York politics the nastiest and most vindictive person to have ever been in politics, which, given the kind of people… You got Anthony Weiner and you got Eliot Spitzer and some of the people in New York politics in recent years are about as scummy as it gets.

But de Blasio put out this statement right after, Clay. “It is beyond clear that Andrew Cuomo is not fit to hold office and can no longer serve as governor.” He must resign — and if he continues to resist and attack the investigators who did their jobs, he should be impeached immediately.” I think you’ll see a lot more comments like this, but I don’t think anything’s gonna come of it. That’s where we are.

CLAY: That is the question, right?

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If Cuomo Survives, Is #MeToo Over?

3 Aug 2021

BUCK: I just wanted to establish what the current president was saying back on ABC News in March to George Stephanopoulos about his feelings on Governor Cuomo.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask you about Governor Cuomo of New York. I know you’ve said you want the investigation to continue. If the investigation confirms claims of the women, should he resign?

BIDEN: Yes. I think he’d probably end up being prosecuted, too.

BUCK: Ah, Clay, not only should he resign, which as I’ve said he likely will not do and I even have a couple bets with New York City politicians on the Republican side about this one saying that he’s never going. He’s not gonna resign. It’s just not gonna happen. On another level, President Biden said he should be prosecuted, which doesn’t even seem like it’s in the cards a little bit.

CLAY: Well, it could be in the cards if the AG of New York wants to get the governor job, which actually I think would move in favor of Andrew Cuomo here, Buck, because then he can truly argue even more, this is a politically motivated prosecution, which is difficult to do when it’s only Democrats involved.

Let’s talk big picture here for a minute too. You heard what Joe Biden said. Remember the governor of Virginia — in the wake of the “everything is racist” Democratic movement — basically said, “I’m not going to resign,” and media moved on, stopped covering him, and he’s gonna finish out his term.

BUCK: Ralph Northam, governor of Virginia.

CLAY: If Andrew Cuomo survives this, if he is able to finish his term and or run for reelection again in 2022, what this could represent on a big, broad scale is #MeToo is over. Think about this. Because if Democrats are unable to remove the 11-time accused, current sitting governor of New York, despite an independent investigation by the state attorney general, which confirms the allegations of the women, then how in the world can anyone politically ever be removed?

And remember, this is significant. These are not random women that doesn’t have a connection to his job. These are mostly women who worked in his office, which is the definition of sexual harassment. If this doesn’t get Andrew Cuomo out of office, the standard for anybody accused of a #MeToo violation in government — Democrat, Republican, independent, doesn’t matter — is going to be, “Look at what happened to Andrew Cuomo.” This could mean the end of #MeToo because remember hashtag #BelieveAllWomen? That’s going up in smoke right now. That was the argument that existed in the Brett Kavanaugh situation.

BUCK: Well, I think you can argue that that already, because of the obvious politicization of it against Kavanaugh, was no longer considered a fair and credible standard by anybody who believes in fairness or credibility.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: On the Cuomo side of things, here you have somebody who is a very connected, powerful Democrat — who, remember, is also tied into the whole covid narrative, he’s tied into the Democrat response in 2020, the Biden campaign saying, “Look at who did a great job. Cuomo did a great job,” they said. And not only was he, you know, pushing seniors with covid back into nursing homes, and then lying about that data, he was also lying all along, unless you think that these reports…

You only have two options. These women are lying or Cuomo is lying. There’s no third option in terms of whether he touched them or not, and so the Democrats feel like this guy going down overall is too much of a brand hit for them. So they’re gonna make a lot of statements. We’re gonna have all these statements, Clay. “Oh, this is an outrageous. Oh, this….”

And then two days from now or five days from now or whatever, there will be some insurrection narrative they’re talking about on CNN, and Bro Cuomo will be there talking about how the white nationalists are gonna take over at any moment and we need to have Big Tech monitoring all those Trump voters because of the coup that’s gonna happen at any moment and everything we’ve heard from Cuomo sounds like background noise everything we’ve heard all the allegations. And this guy, not only does he stay in office, he runs for reelection — and, Clay, not only does he run for reelection…

CLAY: He wins.

BUCK: He wins.

CLAY: He’s the needle that I would say Andrew Cuomo is trying to finesse. You said either he is lying, or the women are lying, and I think that’s the way most people would acknowledge it. But remember his opening line almost was, “I never touched anyone inappropriately or made inappropriate sexual advances. That isn’t who I am or have ever been.” That’s Andrew Cuomo. Let’s look at some of the work that these sentences are doing.

Remember, this was a masterfully crafted defense when he knew already what the outcome of this investigation was gonna be. Remember Bill Clinton came on in the Monica Lewinsky response, and later would get prosecuted for lying under oath, and remember what his defense was? “That depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.”

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Because if you remember Bill Clinton’s initial response, he said, “There is no sexual relationship.” And his defense was, “That means right now.” He didn’t say, “There was no sexual relationship.” He said, “There is no sexual relationship,” meaning he called it off. Why do I bring that up? If you look at what Andrew Cuomo was saying, he says, “I never touched anyone inappropriately or made inappropriate sexual advances.” The word there that is doing a lot of work is “inappropriate.” “Inappropriate” is a term of art. What is or is not “inappropriate” in terms of touching, in terms of commentary is really up to the mind of the person.

BUCK: You can’t say I never touched anybody ’cause they had a collage of dozens of photos of him doing the Fredo brother smooch on the cheek thing.

CLAY: He admitted, in fact, to touching people all the time. He admitted to the commentary that might be involved in his office. So his legal defense, as well as potentially his political defense, comes down in the same way Bill Clinton said, “That depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.” It comes down to, what is inappropriate? What is inappropriate, and how do you define it in the context of the office at play here?

And the real question is, did his address provide enough political cover? You believe the answer is yes, ’cause Democrats don’t want to do anything. You think his response gave enough political cover for him to avoid being forced to resign or be impeached or whatever might happen in Albany. You think the answer is yes. The question is, I think, how will the media cover this? And think about how the media would cover this if it were a Democrat versus Republican.

BUCK: It is a Democrat. If it were a Republican, sure. It would be very different. We all know that. It would have not even gotten to this point because you would have, like, a news ticker at the bottom of the screen, “How many days since Republican sexual abuser hasn’t resigned?” They would do what CNN did with covid deaths under Trump and then somehow mysteriously dropped right after Biden came into office, which is the constant flood-the-zone approach.

But Cuomo’s defiance here to anybody who understands New York state politics, how things work up in Albany, who owes whom favors and how the system actually functions… We’re in a one-party, Democrat-controlled state. They have an iron grip over what goes on in the legislature, and Cuomo has a lot of on a lot of people Clay. His family is very entrenched with a lot of the most powerful Democrats in Albany.

And there’s just not gonna be enough. Right now, I understand it feels like, “Oh, my gosh. Look what just happened!” But this guy didn’t resign when it came out that he was lying about the seniors dying in the nursing homes! It’s not just that he had bad policies. He covered up the numbers by 50% of people dying in a pandemic. If Democrats aren’t going to try to push him out of office for that —

CLAY: Or even investigate or charge him.

BUCK: If they’re not gonna do that, they’re not gonna do it over inappropriate comments and inappropriate touching. I just don’t… I don’t see it.

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Psaki on Lockdowns, Mandates: All Options on Table

3 Aug 2021

BUCK: Here’s Jen Psaki from yesterday talking about how we’re not gonna do shutdowns, but we might go to something like them.

PSAKI: Obviously, the president is, uh, keeping the option open of, uh, making sure that he is, uh… Uh, that CDC and our public health officials, uh, can make recommendations on what’s needed to keep the American people safe. I’m not in a position to preview that, uh, or to get ahead of any decisions they may make. Uh, what I can reiterate, though, is, uh, — and you heard Dr. Fauci and Dr. Collins reiterate this this weekend.

Uh, we’ve been clear we’re not going back to the shutdowns of March of 2020. Uh, we are not going back to the economy shutting down. We’ve made too much progress, too many people are vaccinated. There’s been too much progress on the economic front. But again, uh, he has said from the beginning that we are gonna be guided by the science, guided by our public health (sputters) experts, and we’re not gonna take options off the table, what they may recommend.

BUCK: “Not gonna take options off the table.” That should send a chill down your spine, Clay.

CLAY: Not only that, I wonder for the vaccine passports in New York City, a lot of courts and a lot of judges were loath to step forward and challenge anything because of the panic that was surrounding covid and the imminent danger under which many of these regulations and rules were put in place. Now that — as you pointed out earlier in the show, Buck — relatively few people are dying from covid.

Is the panic and the emergency power that is given to state and federal officials and mayors going to be questioned more now? In other words, as many people out there listening us think about this proposed New York City regulation, is it going to be able to be enforced or not? That is, from a legal perspective, a monstrous part of this story.

BUCK: Right. We were never led to believe that this — the covid lockdowns, the vaccine mandate, the masking — was to prevent all infectious from happening. We were led to believe that this was to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed with people who are several ill and people who will do from the virus.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Hospitals are not overwhelmed. There are not that many people going into hospitals nationwide compared to where we’ve been. There are very few people who are dying from covid in major cities like New York and Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles, and yet the rules seem to be constantly adjusting as a result.

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King Cuomo Puts on Masterclass in Denial

3 Aug 2021

BUCK: So you had Governor Cuomo there going full sociopath for everybody, not stepping down. Clay, I gotta tell you, man. I knew this guy… Oh, my gosh. He was never going anywhere — doesn’t matter what the evidence, doesn’t matter what the report finds — and now here he is. He did exactly what we were talking about before he came on air live there. He did the whole, “Okay, maybe it was generational, cultural. I kiss people on the neck, on the face, on the nose, on the head!”

CLAY: With photo evidence that they had already prepared for those of us who were watching on television while you were listening, and I know a lot of our listeners weren’t. I gotta be honest with you. This was a masterclass in preparation. Regardless of what you think of politics, they were prepared for all of this report finding. He was reading off of a teleprompter. They were mixing in photos to back up his arguments. When you heard him talk about how he kisses people, male, female, gay, straight.

BUCK: He had a smooch collage ready!

CLAY: They had a collage that was shown on both Fox News and CNN. We’re watching it here in studio. A couple of other things that stood out. He denied everything. This was reminiscent of the Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky incident, for those of you who remember it.

BUCK: He denied most of it.

CLAY: He said, “I never touched anyone inappropriately.”

BUCK: ‘Cause that’s where you cross that bright red line.

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: So he denies all of that.

CLAY: And he said, “That isn’t who I am or have ever been.” He leaned on the fact that he had 40 years in public life. But to me what stands out about this is he was prepared for what this report was gonna find. They had a speech written that I bet he had practiced ’cause it was well delivered. He was reading it off a teleprompter.

Think about the way he closed. He said, “Politics is an ugly business,” which was a quote from his dad, Mario Cuomo, the former governor of New York. He then talked about his daughters, just dropped them in, which is intended to be a message. “I have daughters myself! How could I inappropriately treat women?” Whether that’s fair or foul, that’s the message he’s trying to send by mentioning his daughters.

And then what did he close with? Covid!

He talked about all the progress that New York had made with covid. So the speech which started with “I never touched anyone inappropriately” ended with him talking about how great is the progress New Yorkers had made battling covid. I think, regardless of what you think of the politics, that was a masterclass delivery of a denial, which really just kind of sounded like a state-of-the-governorship from Andrew Cuomo when he knew everybody was gonna be watching.

BUCK: Right — and, by the way, he’s not resigning. So I’m right. He’s not resigning. He’s not going anywhere. Everything I said he was going to do he ended up doing. He said that he was a little guilty, but he said he learned. He said that covid was the big response and we need to keep doing it. It is classic Cuomo! This guy is a tyrant, and that’s why it doesn’t matter. Democrat rules, folks. He’s decided he’s gonna stay; so he’s going to stay. We’ll come back into this because it’s just processing right now what we just witnessed.

CLAY: Just live.

BUCK: It’s brazen beyond words in some ways, but it’s very good stuff — a masterclass, as you say — in political misdirection.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CUOMO: My attorney, who is a nonpolitical former federal prosecutor, has done a response to each allegation. And the facts are much different than what has been portrayed. That document is available on my website. If you are interested, please take the time to read the facts and decide for yourself. First, I want you to know directly from me that I never touched anyone inappropriately or made inappropriate sexual advances.

BUCK: Governor Cuomo there saying that the facts are different, which is another way of saying — and welcome back to Clay and Buck show. I am Buck. Clay and I are here, and I gotta tell you, I can’t say I’m a little bit surprised about what just happened because I told you right before Cuomo went on air, he’s not resigning.

He’s gonna do a little bit of the “I’m saving you from covid,” a little bit of the “I’m a better man.” He did this whole thing about he’s an advocate for sexual assault survivors and how he kisses everybody on the cheek or everybody on the wherever, and here we are now hearing from Cuomo. Clay, he’s saying that the women are lying, but he won’t say that.

You can’t say the facts are different here than they say. Either you touched women in places you shouldn’t or you didn’t. I think it’s interesting that he’s trying to play this game. I mean, he is skating all around the edges here. He’s saying some of the accusers are lying, and that should be clear. We should be clear about that.

CLAY: Which is in direct contravention to what he would say if a Republican was involved, like what he said during the Justice Kavanaugh hearings. But big picture here: What he is trying to do is give enough doubt that he has political cover to not have to resign and then, in 2022, allowed the residents, citizens of New York State to render a verdict on whether they believe he is worthy or not of continuing to be governor of this state.

So the general public — and this is always an interesting point. The general public is more forgiving and/or you could also say potentially not paying attention enough that they don’t demand in these situations… Look at what happened with the governor of Virginia and all of that. He was posing in the KKK outfits, everything else. However, we should mention already people are abandoning ship.

And the question is, how many people will? This is the Senate majority leader, Andrea Stewart-Cousins. She said, ” This report highlights unacceptable behavior by Governor Cuomo and his administration. As I said, when these disturbing allegations first came to light, the Governor must resign for the good of the state. Now that the investigation is complete, and the allegations have been substantiated, it should be clear to everyone that he can no longer serve as Governor.

Our highest elected offices must reflect the values and integrity that they profess and New Yorkers hold dear. I thank the Attorney General and her investigators for their thorough investigation. I also wanted to give a special thank you to the courageous women who bravely stepped forward to shed light on this awful situation. We all owe them a debt of gratitude.”

BUCK: This means nothing. She will do nothing. These statements from Democrats are all CYA, “Look at me. I support #MeToo.” I’m telling you, they’re not gonna do anything.

CLAY: You don’t think there’s any way they’ll try to remove him.

BUCK: Not gonna do anything. I told you he wasn’t gonna resign. They’re not gonna do a damn thing, ’cause he’s too important to the Democrat power apparatus. Ultimately, he knows New York state politics better than anybody else in the game. He runs this state with an iron grip. He’s gonna say these things. By the way, your point about the referendum on him is critical.

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Get Woke and Go Choke: U.S. Women’s Soccer Team Loses

2 Aug 2021

CLAY: So the U.S. last night, the men, beat Mexico to win the Gold Cup in Las Vegas, 1-0, late goal, 117th minute. And there was a lot of excitement ’cause that’s the second straight time we’ve beaten Mexico. It’s like two ships passing in the night. The U.S. men are becoming, I really think — under Berhalter — an elite-level soccer team. All right. But — so that’s a positive. You want to take your victory lap and tell Mexico how much they suck?

BUCK: I was very excited last night as America came out and won, and it also makes it even sweeter when there were fans who were clearly Mexico fans who were throwing bottles at the Americans.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Somehow that’s never a problem.

CLAY: Oh, no.

BUCK: Somehow when the Mexican fans are throwing batteries and bricks and yelling slurs at the Americans — yelling really nasty stuff — that’s not a news story.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: So it makes it all the sweeter that that’s right, Mexico! We beat you in soccer.

CLAY: If you lose to America in back-to-back games in soccer, which is Mexico’s national sport — and it’s what, the fourth most important sport in America right now? I think that’s a probably accurate behind football, basketball, baseball. So when we’re dominating Mexico in their thing, that is enjoyable. Now, that’s a positive soccer story. The Olympics are continuing to go on.

I want to have a discussion here, because my argument is the woke virus destroys everything that it touches. We’re talking about covid. Most people will recover from covid without issue. I went, Buck, with my family in 2015 to watch the U.S. women win the World Cup in Canada, Vancouver. Awesome trip.

I’m not sure there was any team in America that was more beloved that be the U.S. Women’s Soccer Team in 2015 when they won the Women’s World Cup. You could not hear more positivity surrounding them. I want to open up phone lines ’cause I’m actually curious to hear from our listeners. But, Buck, you said it, and I think there are a lot of people who agree with you.

This team has become so unlikable as they embrace left-wing politics, as they denigrated our country, refused to visit the White House, that there were a lot of people out there that in the space of basically six years had gone from loving the U.S. women’s soccer team to being either totally ambivalent to them at best, or excited when they lose at worse. You are in the position of, you said Sweden won three nothing; you enjoyed it. Now we lost to Canada, and I bet when you woke up this morning and you saw the result, Buck Sexton, there was a small smile that immediately crept across your face when you saw this news.

BUCK: I wouldn’t even say small!

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: I’ve got a women’s Sweden jersey that I gotta get on the way to my apartment and women’s Canada soccer jersey and I celebrate their victories ’cause here’s the thing. The U.S. team, a lot of them went with the kneeling thing, a lot of them want to be woke, they want to do all this. What they’ve done to their brand is somewhat similar what happened to the Ghostbusters brand with the all-female reboot, which may be the worst movie visual atrocity ever filmed.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: So the U.S. women lost in soccer, and the immediate reaction, I think, by a huge experience of American sports fans — and also just kind of casual American Olympic fans — was to be happy about that. How does that happen? How does a team go from in 2015 being the most popular maybe in America to being detested by a large percentage of the American population? The answer is the woke virus.

What’s so frustrating to me about this, Buck, is the U.S. women had an incredible opportunity. They can have stood on the global stage and said, “This is what human rights can do for women. Yes, we’re good at soccer, but the reason we’re good at soccer is because we’re allowed to wear shorts and compete, and we get scholarships to college, and women’s sports are treated — under Title IX — as the equivalent of men’s sports.”

They could have uplifted America, used us as the shining city on the hill example, and pointed out that if you look at women’s soccer, all you have to know is what the basic human rights of a country is to pick the beginner. Instead, they refused to visit the White House. They insulted the president of the United States by name and cursed him, and they refused to stand for the national anthem while wearing U.S. gear! (chuckles) Buck, this is the woke virus. It destroys everything. The U.S. women are a perfect metaphor. Every business should be paying attention to them.

BUCK: But now does the woke virus, as you call it, extend to the brand value of the various players that are on the women’s team as a result of this?

CLAY: Oh, that’s a good point.

BUCK: This is where we look at this also and I think and should look at this as a business decision. Megan Rapinoe… Am I saying it right?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I’ve heard it a million different ways. Megan Rapinoe is a household name now because of they are wokeness. So while her team may lose, her brand value and staying true to her woke insanity — in my mind, but her wokeness — may actually mean she gets a bigger contract from Nike.

CLAY: That’s exactly right.

BUCK: This is a problem of the Kaepernick situation playing out all across the sports where, you know, it’s also they didn’t win, right? I feel like if you win if you’re the U.S. national team for any sport you go on the national stage you win a gold medal you go to the Olympics, okay. But you go out there and get your butts kicked by Sweden and then Canada? I think there’s some humble pie that has to be eaten along with maybe some, “Stop being so woke.”

CLAY: Yeah, I agree a hundred percent.

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Cuomo to Businesses: Ban the Unvaxxed

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BUCK: The vaccine push is still very much underway here, and Governor Cuomo of New York… Clay, the worst governor for the pandemic? Is that fair or do you think Newsom? Who gets the top spot?

CLAY: I think you can say worst governor for the pandemic. I think you can make a strong argument that Governor Cuomo — if the goal of a governor is to protect its citizenry and help them to have jobs, I think you could make a strong argument that Andrew Cuomo is the worst governor of most of our lives — not even just the pandemic.

BUCK: So, not just the worst in America, the worst in America in living memory?

CLAY: Many of our lives. Certainly, the twenty-first century.

BUCK: That’s bold talk, Mr. Travis, but I will cosign. Here he is on how he’s not gonna mandate it; he wants the private sector to mandate it. Go ahead.

CUOMO: Private businesses, I am asking them and suggesting to them, “Go to vaccine-only admission.” Go to vaccine-only admission! We do this Radio City Music Hall months ago, reopened vaccine only. Sold out all the shows. Sports arenas, they went up to about 90% vaccine only. Private businesses, bars, restaurants, go to a vaccine-only admission. I believe it’s in your best business interests.

BUCK: That’s kind of like, “Oh, nice business you got there. Be a shame if the state authorities came, shut it down, fined you, and ruined your livelihood.” I don’t think anybody is unable to read between the lines here for America’s worst governor, Clay.

CLAY: Well — and again, this is significant because I think people are seeing it, but they’re not really tying it all together, ’cause I can see this directly connecting to Big Tech. What government is doing now is they are seeking to pressure private industry to enact rules that the government itself would not be constitutionally permitted to enact. So this is a default state action that is being demanded by the state of New York.

The state of New York, I don’t believe, has the legal authority to mandate vaccines for all residents of the state of New York. But what they’re trying to do is make it so wildly uncomfortable for people based on being able to do their day-to-day life that people just throw up their hands and say, “Oh, okay. I’ll get the vaccine.”

And, again, it’s a back-door attempt at a mandate which would be unconstitutional if the government tried to do it itself. I think that’s significant not only here but also in the way that Big Tech is being used. We need an aggressive investigation into whether or not it this constitutes state action.

BUCK: And it’s also a way of getting around the accountability mechanisms here. This is true in the whole budget process that’s playing out right now, where you have the infrastructure bill has come out separately from the budget. We haven’t even seen the budget. We’ll talk more about this in just a few moments. But the whole point of having a 2,000-plus page infrastructure bill is nobody really knows what’s in it.

People just pile stuff into it; so therefore no one’s really responsible for the waste, the fraud, the abuse that happens. With so many of these Democrat in particular but there have been Republicans who are very bad on the pandemic lockdown stuff as well, it’s, “Oh, I’m just listening to the public health officials.” Well, then who’s really responsible for the bad decision-making, the public health official or the politician who says, “I’m just listening to the experts”?

Same thing here with the private sector and Big Tech acting in concert with them as part of the private sector, of course. Is it Governor Cuomo’s fault now when you go into a store and you have to have a vaccine? And also, is that store responding to what they think is actually good policy for their customers, or are they worried about what could happen to them under a governor like Cuomo who is so heavy-handed when he doesn’t get his way?

CLAY: Buck, also there’s gonna be a huge market for fake vaccine cards, because it’s not as if these vaccine cards, if you look at them, are incredibly high-tech. And anybody who’s ever been on a college campus know that 18- and 19-year-olds who want to get into a bar get fake IDs, irrespective of the fact that you are now requiring the vaccine. Who is gonna be checking vaccine cards at the entrance to the bar?

Are they gonna say, “Hey, I need to see your ID and your vaccine card?” That seems to me to be a big mess. It’s not like you’re gonna have public health experts reviewing vaccine cards. They’re just gonna be getting printed. I know Kamala Harris doesn’t think people have access to Kinko’s, but there’s gonna be a lot of fake vaccine cards just rolling out if people really want them.

BUCK: Clay, to be fair to Kamala — who is already considered the least popular vice president in living memory.

CLAY: Statistically, yes.

BUCK: Congratulations, VP Harris. Considered the worst by Americans in 50 years.

CLAY: And also to have done so in the first six months, when usually there’s a glow of a new administration, which certainly there’s that patina of excitement over the fact that if you read mainstream media it was, “The first woman, the first minority woman to hold the vice presidential office.” Yet she is so wildly unpopular that already they’re talking Weekend at Bernie’s II style trying to drag Joe Biden across in 2024 again for fear what she would do to the Democratic Party if she’s the nominee.

BUCK: But I just wanted to be fair she was clear that it was only that rural folks who can’t find a copy machine.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: It’s rural people.

CLAY: They can’t get IDs.

BUCK: They don’t know how to utilize all that electricity and all the big words and all the stuff, really condescending stuff from the vice president, which may go to why she is not exactly super popular with the American people overall.

CLAY: Democrats hated her when she ran for president, Buck. She couldn’t get 1% support. She collapsed.

BUCK: She was popular with media executives and hedge fund managers in New York and Los Angeles.

CLAY: Pretty much.

BUCK: That’s her base — and the New York Times editorial page to some degree. But I had promised everybody that we’d talk about the vaccines but also this data that I had teased.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I just wanted to get to this as well about mandatory vaccinations because you’ve been led to believe — if you pay attention to just in a general sense in the media — that it is Republicans who are unvaccinated; it is Trump supporters who are the problem. Let me just hone in on the city that I know the best, New York, which is where I’m from and where I currently am sitting.

Clay, there are 135,000 public school employees. This is as of July 26, I’m give you this data, okay? There are 135,000 of them, and you have about 40% that are unvaccinated. NYPD’s 54,000 uniformed and civilian workforce, 43% are vaccinated. Department of Corrections, 42% are vaccinated. It’s 60% vaccinated for teachers, but you’re talking about tens of thousands of public school teachers in New York City who are mandating that kids wear masks, but they’re not willing to get vaccinated right now.

CLAY: Yeah, Buck, what it does is it speaks to how artificial the line was that these teachers were terrified they were gonna die if they actually taught, because if you truly were terrified of covid, you would have gone and gotten the vaccine immediately. I think what this reflects is a lot of teachers are youngish, in their twenties and thirties, and that’s the group that’s not.

We should mention, by the way, that we’ve reached 70% of adults who have received at least their first vaccine. So we know those numbers. We don’t have the numbers like we talked about out of England, but that’s pretty crazy that teachers would be statistically less likely than adults in America to have actually gotten their vaccine.

BUCK: It’s teachers in New York City, too.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Who I can tell you: If you’re a teacher in the public school system in New York City, I actually have a few friends who are secret conservatives who teach in the public school system here. There’s a 90% chance you’re a hard-core Democrat, Biden, Bernie voter. No question about it, okay? So that’s why you got almost half of them — and it’s big workforce, 135,000 of them — who are unvaccinated. I’m sure in the nursing homes, Clay, where I actually think that that starts to be, like, special consideration time. I think nursing home staff are at an elevated responsibility for covid protocols.

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: Something like that 40% of nursing home staff is unvaccinated in New York City!

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2 Aug 2021

CLAY: The biggest current Democratic mask hypocrite, I would say, is Mayor Bowser from Washington, D.C., who managed to officiate a wedding and appear at a several-hundred-person post-wedding celebration, Buck Sexton. But she was not wearing a mask, in violation of her own rules, becoming the latest Democratic politician to have rules for thee but not for me, and there’s so much chaos and hypocrisy that continues to build around the mask mandates. How was your weekend, Buck Sexton, and do you think that things can get any more insane?

BUCK: Oh, it’s gonna get crazier, everybody. Strap in all across the country. I can assure you. Because here’s what you have to remember. There’s an inverse relationship between clarity for rational people and insanity for the irrational people, as we see more data, we see more reality and say, “Okay. Things are gonna calm down.” They actually get more insane, because they’ve convinced themselves that the moment they start to let up and believe some of those other numbers is when they really have to lock things down even more.

Plus, if we don’t do what they want us to do and everything actually happens the way we say it will, Clay, maybe they were wrong all along which is another huge fear they have. But you asked about the weekend. First of all, Tiana Lowe with the Washington Examiner with the hat tip on the reporting about Mayor Bower in D.C.

CLAY: Yeah, she did a great job with that.

BUCK: We’re gonna dive into that in a second just because it’s so classic. She joins that long list of all these: The governor of California, Newsom; the mayor of Chicago —

CLAY: — Lori Lightfoot, flagrantly breaking her own rules.

BUCK: Lori Lightfoot needs a haircut and because she’s important and you’re not That was the rule in Chicago. But I got told over the weekend in my own neighborhood in a wine store, “Excuse me, sir, you have to leave. You don’t have a mask on.” I’m sitting there; I’m saying, “There’s no mask mandate. What?” Oh, oh, now we’re gonna do this thing where some people in some stores expect you to have the emergency smelly mask in your back pocket.

Because let’s be honest: It gets sweaty and then it it sits in the back the pocket. You don’t really use it all the time. No one’s washing their masks, too. These things are petri dish, and it’s, “Oh, okay. For you I’ll put on my mask,” and I’m sure the people in the store go out to eat or they go to another grocery store without their masks on. But we’re gonna keep playing this game until they’ve exhausted themselves with their irrationality, Clay, which might take a very long time.

CLAY: Yeah, I talked about this on Friday. I landed in Las Vegas on Thursday night two hours before their mask mandate went into effect at midnight on Friday. So on Friday, my wife went down to the gym in the hotel we were staying at. We were at the Palazzo out on the Strip for people out in Vegas, and she went to work out in the gym while we were doing our show on Friday in the morning, on Pacific Time out there.

So she worked out Friday. She goes back down to work out on Sunday; they have changed everything in the gym, Buck. They have an employee who is walking around the gym to ensure that people who are running on treadmills have their masks accurately up above their nose. If you are running on a treadmill and your mask falls down for any period of time at all below your nose, she was immediately telling people that they had to lift their masks back up.

This is a Las Vegas hotel, right? It’s not like people make typically really great, healthy decisions in Las Vegas. Probably the people that are in the gym working out in the morning in that Las Vegas hotel are pretty healthy relatively speaking. She is walking around the gym telling people — as they are working out, as they are running full speed on treadmills — that they have to ensure that their mask is not falling down.

And, by the way, it’s almost impossible to run very fast with a stupid mask on your face where you can’t get oxygen. There is no way that is safer. They’re going to have, if they haven’t already had, lawsuits from people who are trying to work out that end up passing out because they can’t get enough oxygen. And that has to be, statistically, infinitely more dangerous than you breathing out during the post-covid-19 when so many people are vaccinated and so many people have already had it. All this is insanity.

BUCK: Everyone’s gonna have the place where they have to draw the line coming up.

CLAY: That’s right. For her, that was it. She said, “I’m out.” She took off the mask and she left the gym. She said she can’t do this.

BUCK: That’s where we’re going here. For some people — I would put myself in this category, although Mrs. Travis going to the gym a lot more than I do. The gym is going to be a line for me. Whenever I do finally get my butt into the gym, I’m not wearing a mask in the gym. People can come up to me; they can give me crap. It’s too much. For a lot of people, though, I think it’s going to be schools.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: You’re seeing it now playing out. Some states are fighting back against this; other states are saying that they’re going to go forward with this. You’re gonna have masked children in some schools, unmasked children in others and this is gonna terrify the mask maniacs because we’ll have real data sets to look at of people the same age range in different states, and did masks do anything with regard to outbreaks in cases?

Now, they’ll ignore the data because they always do but at least we’ll have the data in a clear and straight forward way. But I think everyone needs… We have been when a I’ve been saying, Clay, up to this points is that in a few weeks it will be clear that this is a wave like the other waves and it will start to go down again.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: But as we know just because there’s a wave and we see it and it happens as we say, they never learned the necessary lessons from this process playing out. The lockdowners always find a way to justify it in their heads. What you’re seeing now is a move toward Covid Zero as the overall mentality. This is why the Washington Post reports on how many cases there are, and people say, “Well, hold on a second. What about the fact that fatalities are down over 90% from the peak?”

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: Cities like New York have one or two people dying a day from covid. Every death is a strategized but we got a lot more people than that literally getting shot in some of these cities. You’ve got people dying from heart disease in much higher numbers. There’s a total disconnect from the reality, and if we saw what goes on in some of these European countries… Did you see some of these protests over the weekend?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: In Germany. In France. When you have Germans with “POLIZEI” on their chests going into cafes and bludgeoning old people for not obeying state mandates, that should make the hair on the back of your neck stand up a little bit. This is getting really authoritarian and scary in other countries, never mind Australia where they’ve called out the military, and they’re fining people $500 for being seen without a mask in public. This is absolute insanity, but the Democrats have not accepted that at all. They’re actually doubling down, and I’m hearing there’s a Biden speech coming this week where he’s gonna do just that.

CLAY: Yeah, and here’s the thing: You can look at the data if we want to. England is an interesting example We talked about India where the Delta variant emerged in the first place. Almost no one in India is vaccinated and they’ve actually done antibody studies that show that two-thirds of India basically got covid. And we’ve talked about this a lot, Buck.

The reason why I would point to England is England does studies — and I don’t know why we haven’t done these studies in the United States. It’s an interesting question and I think an indictment of our overall health leadership. But they are projecting now in England as cases are starting to decline fairly precipitously — despite the fact that they’ve opened the country back up in a big way on July 19th.

Buck, 92% of people in England, according to the studies that they’ve done, have either been vaccinated or had covid. So we talk a lot about herd immunity. At least we used to. If we know 92% of the people in England have either gotten the vaccine or have had covid, I would think that our numbers in the United States can’t be that much different than England. Wouldn’t you think it’s somewhat similar?

BUCK: This is an essential conclusion, and we didn’t even discuss this beforehand, but was I thinking about this all weekend, and I completely agree with where this takes us. What really should be posed to the public — and I’m basing this on your U.K. data you’re citing, which I’ve also seen — is your choice is actually… And they’ve never told you. They’ve pretend all the stuff the State — the big S State — has done, has been, “We will keep you safe.”

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: “Do everything we say, and we will keep you safe,” and really what you see is your choice is just how you’re exposed to covid and under what circumstances. You can get it after being vaccinated. You’ll be exposed to covid after being vaccinated which might mean you have no infection, and it is very effective up to this point at preventing severe illness and death.

That is what the data says so far. People are worried about it declining. But really what we’ve set up here is a choice between get covid naturally or get vaccinated and maybe still get covid, but it is a small, small percentage but it’s either get vaccinated or get covid. There is not this… All this other stuff that you hear about is noise ’cause essentially everyone is going to be exposed to it at some point.

CLAY: That’s right. That’s the entire purpose of the vaccine is to expose your body to covid. So either you’re gonna get it naturally or you’re gonna get it artificially through the vaccine.

BUCK: And that’s it. So all the stuff about the people… This is why you have to put yourself in the minds of those who were double masking outside even when they were going bicycling with their children, Lake and Xavier and Atticus or whatever. (chuckling) I’m thinking of Brooklyn people here who are all about, all about the most extreme measures possible. They’re in their thirties!

CLAY: They have zero risk statistically.

BUCK: Almost zero risk. But for them, their mind-set is, “Oh, but even though I’m vaccinated, I could still get it, and it’s those evil Trump supporters.” It is the low-risk vaccinated who are pushing the madness. The unvaccinated right now out there are saying, “I made my choice. Let it ride.” It’s the people —

CLAY: And, by the way, the unvaccinated may also have already had covid, too, Buck. This discussion about, “Oh, there’s people who are refusing to get the vaccine.” A lot of those people think or know that they had covid. So, again, I go to that 92% ’cause we spend a lot of time talking about what percentage of people have been vaccinated or are refusing to be vaccinated or are totally vaccinated depending on the age.

If you actually look at that British study, 92% of people either have had the vaccine or have had covid — and a lot of those 92%, by the way, Buck, have had both, correct? There’s a lot of people out there who had covid and also have gotten the vaccine, and all of this — as you said — is virtue signaling madness. The people who are vaccinated are the most restrictive on what they want to be done still.

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