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On Wuhan, Even Some Libs Are Tired of Dishonest Wokeness

9 Aug 2021

BUCK: Even some liberals, some of the libs out there are getting tired with how dishonest the wokeness can be and what it means for critical issues of public debate. Bill Maher, who is sometimes a heterodox guy ideologically — he’s a man of the left, but he does get tired of the insane wokeness and will sometimes say things that I gotta say, as a conservative, you go, “Ah, he’s actually right about that.” Here he is on how wokeness will get people killed when it comes to the origins of covid.

MAHER: You said, “It doesn’t get anybody killed.” I think it does. Defunding the police, I think, came from wokeness, and I think it will get people killed.

CROWD: (applause)

MAHER: Wait a second. The Spectator says that the New York Times refused to investigate what they called “the biggest story of our time.” They’re talking about where the virus originated. Maybe it was in the Wuhan lab. Because they suppressed efforts to probe the virus’ origins for among reasons because they thought it was racist. You see, because everything is race — come on — at the New York Times. And so “the paper of record” is not reporting what I would expect “the paper of record” to report: The accurate news. That is an example of the power of wokeness.

BUCK: I mean, what an intellectual betrayal, Clay, for the New York Times. Just for people who work in the information and allegedly journalism sphere to say, “We can’t report on the truth of the Wuhan lab leak because racism”?

CLAY: It’s the biggest story maybe in our lives. I don’t think that’s an exaggeration, depending. There are people out there who lived through World War II and have been through American history that may be bigger. But for people out there that are 50 or younger I would say, covid is the biggest story of our lives and where covid came from. And, by the way, how to try to keep covid from happening again is the biggest story of our lives.

And the New York Times won’t cover it because some of the details might be uncomfortable to them. I mean, this is like the whole thing… We’re calling it the Delta variants now, but we can’t even mention the parts of the world that viruses come from now because it might be racist to even suggest where they came from. This is madness.

BUCK: We’re gonna have to rename all of them too. We’re gonna have to rename Zika and Ebola and go down the list, right?

CLAY: Spanish Flu.

BUCK: Spanish Flu, which actually wasn’t even really in Spain, but that’s a whole other thing.

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Defund the Police Is Proving Political Poison

9 Aug 2021

BUCK: Welcome back to Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. Buck here with Clay, and I gotta tell you the Democrats might be heading for some rough times ahead politically based on a number of things that we’re all seeing play out that we’re all quite aware of right now. In fact, Axios has a piece called, “The midterm gusher. Inflation, the border, and crime could create a midterm gusher,” i.e., a tidal wave, a big kaboom of political reversal.

I know it sounds so amazing, doesn’t it? I’m getting excited just telling you about it. But we’re not there yet. We’re about a year and a couple of months away from it actually happening, but we gotta start this momentum now. On the issue of crime, Clay and I were just talking to you about just horrific numbers out of Chicago, eight killed, a dozen shot… I’m sorry, 14. What was it?

CLAY: Thirteen killed, 86 shot over the weekend, including a police officer, a 29-year-old woman who was killed. But 13 killed, 86 shot over the weekend in Chicago, no discussion about it. No massive movements or marches. No contemplation.

BUCK: Where’s the national discourse, where’s the national focus on crime in major U.S. cities like Chicago that are completely out of control? There are plenty of cities around the world, there are cities in other countries where you don’t have people — almost entirely in gangs, involved in the drug trade — shooting and murdering people all the time. There are places. It’s not like we’re trying to create the impossible here. But we have to be realistic about what’s going on and serious about stopping it. Here’s the mayor of Chicago who maybe is forced to have a moment of clarity about who are the good guys, so to speak, and who’s not?

LIGHTFOOT: (whispering) The police are not our enemies. They’re human, just as we are — flawed, just as we are — but also risking their lives every day for our safety. We have a common enemy. It’s the guns and the gangs.

BUCK: Look, what she’s saying is true. But, Clay, isn’t it remarkable that a mayor of Chicago even feels the need to say, “The police are not our enemies”?

CLAY: It’s also pretty unbelievable how swift the pivot has become. From defund the police — and I know we still got imbeciles like Cori Bush out there arguing for defund the police. But the vast majority of people out there, it’s amazing how quickly all of this has pivoted. And, by the way, here’s Cori Bush. She went on CNN’s State of the Union again (laughing) calling for defunding the police despite all the data to the contrary. Check it out.

BUSH: I think what we have to look at is the fact that I made it to Congress (sputters) in 2020, I was elected to Congress, and we are still fighting this same fight. We’re still fighting to save black lives. When we adding more money to the police but — but we’re still dying. So something has to change.

BUCK: Policies like hers, Clay, are costing black lives, among other people’s lives.

CLAY: It’s so transparent, and there are so few people who call it out. Look, Black people in America represent somewhere around 12 or 13% of the overall population. They represent over half of all murders, and the vast majority of people who are killing black are not police officers. That’s madness. It’s other black people, right? People tend to be killed by members of their own race.

I know we have this obsession in the media with cross-racial violence, usually white on black. But the most recent FBI data statistics that I’ve seen, 93% of all black victims of homicide are killed by other black people, and so when you look at those numbers and you say, “What’s the best way to protect black lives?” it’s more police officers because no one protect black lives more than police officers.

BUCK: And it’s not even just more police. That’s certainly a big part of it.

CLAY: The freedom to do their jobs.

BUCK: It’s police that that have the freedom to do things the way they should, the way they know how to and to have that political backing. We have so many law enforcement people listen to this show every day, and we’re honored that you men and women actually spend your time with us, whether you’re on patrol right now or you’re on a day off. But, you know, Clay, they have to know when it’s nighttime and somebody takes off during a traffic stop and they’re chasing them and having to go 90, a hundred miles an hour on back roads or whatever?

They have to know when they chase a fleeing felon down a dark alley and they don’t know if they’re gonna be waiting around the corner with a sharpened screwdriver or a gun or whatever for them, that if they act within good faith — as honorable public servants, which 99.99% of them are — the system will have their back. That’s essential in all this. And what BLM did was remove that basic understanding, and more people died as a result in the last year and two months.

CLAY: There’s no way to argue against it. One of the biggest increases in murder that we’ve ever seen… One of the smartest things I ever did, Buck, when I was a law student was do a ride-around with a police officer. If you are out there right now and you are listening to me and you’re involved in any way in the criminal justice system or involved in the legal system at all, doing a ride-around with a police officer and actually seeing how insanely difficult their jobs are is one of the best ways you can spend your time.

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Mascot Name Mistaken for Slur at Rockies Game

9 Aug 2021

CLAY: I just wanted to end with a funny, ridiculous story as people roll into the rest of their Monday — and I don’t even know if you have hardly seen this, Buck. But over the weekend at the Colorado Rockies game there was a guy sitting right behind home plate. There was a black player batting, and people decided to have this clip go viral because they thought the man was yelling a racial slur at the batter. Now, this would be one of the all-time worst decisions for anyone to make literally on camera, directly behind home plate at the Colorado Rockies. Yelling a racial slur at that black baseball player would be career ending, almost life ending.

BUCK: You’d be ostracized. You’d be ostracized, living in like a cabin somewhere with no running water or electricity ’cause nobody would ever talk to you. It’s like, you’re done.

CLAY: Yeah. But we were talking about this earlier like the sports connection. Buck, so many people in the sports universe desperately desire for there to be racism. It’s not just sports, but certainly sports is a part of it, and the blue check brigade immediately made this clip go viral, and they said, “Just look at this blatant racism! How in the world can the Colorado Rockies allow this to happen?”

I’m not making this story up, for those of you haven’t heard it. The Rockies did an investigation into this man and what he was yelling, and it turns out he was yelling, “Dinger,” D-i-n-g-e-r — as in a home run — which is the name of the mascot of the Colorado Rockies (laughing) And the mascot was on the other side of home plate and he was trying to get the mascot’s attention.

Now, Buck, you could still say (laughing), “Where is a grown man without a child trying to get the attention of the mascot to such an extent?” But if this isn’t a perfect Curb Your Enthusiasm episode, I just tweeted out the video if you guys want a laugh. We need the Curb music in the background. But after an exhaustive investigation, there was no racial slur being screamed, being yelled on camera, on television right behind home plate. It was just a guy trying to get the attention of the mascot.

BUCK: Yet again the hypersensitivity tells you something, doesn’t it? When you have these instances where everyone freaks out, one, it goes to show you that it would not be even a little bit tolerated or acceptable. So that’s one part of it. And the other is that we seem to find a lot of these cases of public racism, whether it’s an alleged noose in a public park —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — that turned out to actually be a piece of exercise equipment or a noose that’s a door pull on a NASCAR door which people are using as a rope to pull down the door. I mean, whatever it may be, we find — and never mind the Jussie Smollett situation, which, as we all know, that was just an intelligence test. If you believed Jussie Smollett, it’s time to, like, read more books and try to think harder. But people believed him, some people did.

CLAY: The demand for racism exceeds the supply in this country right now.

BUCK: Yeah.

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Rush: Chris Matthews Remark Exposes Left-Wing Anti-Semitism

9 Aug 2021

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EIB 24/7: Clay & Buck’s Stack of Stuff

9 Aug 2021

  • Wall Street Journal: The Case Against Masks for Children – Marty Makary and H. Cody Meissner
  • Federalist: NYT Reporter: Obama’s Birthday Bash Safe Because It Was A ‘Sophisticated, Vaccinated Crowd’
  • UKDM: Scaled back? Not so much! Obama’s 60th birthday bash looks anything but intimate as massive tents dwarf the mansion and John Legend, Chrissy Teigen, Dwyane Wade and Gabrielle Union arrive on Martha’s Vineyard ahead of the celebration
  • PJ Media: Fauci Fatigue: This Summer’s Superspreader Hypocrisy Looks Just Like Last Summer’s
  • Daily Wire: COVID-19: Maxine Waters Says ‘We’re Moving Toward A Mandate’
  • New York Post: Cuomo ‘groping’ accuser Brittany Commisso opens up in CBS interview
  • Breitbart: Andrew Cuomo’s Top Aide Resigns as Governor Faces Possible Impeachment
  • Daily Wire: ‘Completely Violated’: State Trooper Describes Alleged Cuomo Incident From Month After He Signed Sexual Harassment Law
  • Gateway Pundit: DHS Warns of ‘Increasing’ Threat of Violence From ‘Trump Conspiracy’ – Admits There is No Evidence of Specific Plot
  • HotAir: Today’s embarrassing controversy: Dinger-gate

  • Daily Caller: During A Bloody Weekend In Chicago, A Female Cop Is The First To Die In The Line Of Duty Since Lori Lightfoot Took Office
  • Breitbart: At Least 72 Shot, 11 Killed, During Weekend in Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s Chicago
  • Daily Wire: ‘NBC’s Worst-Case Scenario’: Olympics Ratings Crash As Americans Snub Games
  • HotAir: Collapse accelerates: Taliban seize three more major cities — in a single day
  • FOXNews: Bill Maher: Defunding the police came from ‘wokeness’ and ‘will get people killed’
  • FOXNews: Chicago violence: 13 killed, 86 shot over weekend, police say
  • Axios: Inflation, crime and border create a midterm gusher for GOP
  • Breitbart: Sean Spicer: ‘Radical Nation: Joe Biden & Kamala Harris’s Dangerous Plan for America’
  • HotAir: Apple’s encryption surrender
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    Return to Normalcy? C&B Find Reasons for Optimism

    6 Aug 2021

    CLAY: I don’t know if Buck’s got the same level of enthusiasm that I have on this Friday. We’re gonna find out quickly. But school is back in session at least for my kids, Buck. We had the first football game that had a full crowd since all the way back to February of 2020 in the NFL or in college football. And I’m gonna tell you what I did this morning, Buck. I walked my kids to school.

    I’ve got a fifth grader and a first grader. There were no masks in the entire school. Public school Parents were allowed to enter the school. We were allowed to go into the classroom, something that we weren’t able to do all of last year and we were able to shake the hands of the teachers that are teaching our kids, put ’em down at the desks and see all their other classmates and all the other parents who were inside of the school.

    I realize this is not going to be happening everywhere. But I left in such a good mood. And let me tell you why I think this is important, Buck. Because when this starts to happen, it gets harder and harder for the imbeciles out there — the Corona Bros as I have called them — to be able to control our lives everywhere because the best thing you can do is get back to normalcy and show people how wild their behavior is by not behaving in a normal fashion.

    Now, I know, we’re talking about vaccine passports (chuckles) where you live, Buck. And we’re talking about going into classrooms and shaking hands with teachers where I am. I’m not sure there’s ever been a larger divide in America than what’s going on right now in some places. But I’m optimistic that at least in places like where I am living right now, people are saying, “We’re over it. You’re not going to dictate to us any longer. We’re back to normal,” which is the ultimate revenge. Am I crazy for being super optimistic about the way my day started off?

    BUCK: No, I’ve been telling you for a while — I’ve been telling everybody listening — that the numbers are gonna go down in August, into the end of August, and people will start to calm down again, right? We were really at, I think, peak Delta panic about a week ago. And now I think we’re already feeling like that’s starting to recede. Because the numbers are also gonna reflect that. If you look and see what happened last summer, sure enough, there was a period.

    And I know we had that long talk with Alex Berenson yesterday. There was a period where it seemed like the Sunbelt was getting hit really badly. That was what everybody was so focused on. And then after a period of time, it went down. This is just the virus viruses, right? As for optimism, of course, I’m totally in favor of people trying to return to normalcy tomorrow. Not even tomorrow. Now! (laughing)

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: Let’s be normal now, this second. But as for whether that’s really happening, I mean, you’re talking about where you are in Tennessee. But didn’t a Tennessee school district that covers Nashville downtown just decide that kids are gonna be masked?

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: So you happen to be in a nice place where freedom still exist, Clay.

    CLAY: Reigns.

    BUCK: But even in the great state of Tennessee — I know we have Senator Marsha Blackburn joining us later on in the show — I would assume that Nashville is probably the largest school district. It seems like a fair guess, in terms of number of students.

    CLAY: Nashville and Memphis are the only two school districts, by the way, to my understanding in the state so far that are requiring masks. But, yes, those are the two biggest that are in the state.

    BUCK: And I also think that there’s this Biden administration effort right now to try to see what they can get away with both through coercing the private sector and also exceedingly their authority at the federal level. Let’s remember — and, by the way, I hope everyone has a great weekend coming up.

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: We’re all very optimistic here on the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show about life. We are happy warriors. That all said, you gotta see what they’re doing here. If they’re willing to have the CDC act as a fourth branch of government to tell you that you can’t even rent out your home — or rather you can’t rent your home properly and not evict somebody — that seems to be an indicator that they’re willing to do even more overreach based on the panic. But I’m forcing people to ask me to mask up.

    CLAY: More so.

    BUCK: And I will tell you I’ve been told about five times this week, “Put a mask on; please, put a mask on, please,” five times in the last week. So I practice what I preach.

    CLAY: Going into stores, going into bars and restaurants, that’s what’s been happening?

    BUCK: Getting into Cars, getting into taxis. In New York they have a separation, they have usually a big Plexiglas separation between the driver and passenger.

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: Not enough now. They want to you mask up. So I’m seeing… Look, there are signs of progress, and there are signs of enduring madness, and we just have to make sure the progress starts to really outweigh the madness or else this is gonna drag on for a very long time. But I’m psyched that you got to have a full football stadium. That’s exciting.

    CLAY: Well, yeah, the full football stadium for the start of the NFL season. For people who don’t know, the NFL preseason is the shadow season for the NFL. By the way, a lot of you play fantasy football. I know Rush was a big fantasy football fan too. Don’t draft until the preseason is over ’cause you have no idea who might get injured.

    But you had two of the iconic NFL franchises, the Steelers and the Cowboys playing in the Hall of Fame game, and it really was the first time they’ve had a full stadium in the NFL or in college since February of 2020 when it seems like forever ago the Chiefs played against the 49ers. So that season is underway. There will be football, Buck, every week between now and February.

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    Sen. Blackburn Slams Dems on Covid, Border, Budget

    6 Aug 2021

    BUCK: We are pleased to be joined now by the senator, one of them, from the great state of Tennessee. Senator Marsha Blackburn is with us. Senator, thank you so much for making the time.

    SEN. BLACKBURN: I’m delighted to join you! Thank you.

    BUCK: So, how do you feel about — let’s just start with where your state is now, which is also Clay’s state — Tennessee — when it comes to the situation of covid and how we’re trying to get back to normalcy here?

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Well, in Tennessee, we have been open for quite a while. And as I am talking to Tennesseans on this, they are saying, “Look, we are being careful.” People are talking to their doctors. If they’re a candidate for a vaccine, they’re getting the vaccine, and what they want to make certain is that we get people back to work, that children get back to school, and that those children — when they go to school — are not going to have to wear masks. I have heard from so many parents that have elementary school children, and they talk about the health issues — whether it’s mental health, physical health, emotional health — and the effects of these masks on children.

    CLAY: Senator Blackburn, thanks for coming on.

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Sure!

    CLAY: This is Clay. We live in basically the same area, which is a great area in the state of Tennessee. My kids went back to school today. I started off the show talking about it. We got to go into the classroom, meet the teachers, shake their hands like normal parents would, see the other parents, see the other kids.

    No masks, and it felt so good to be back to a form of normalcy. How important is it for regular people — the kind of people like you and me and everybody out there listening to us right now — to get on with their lives in a normal fashion? No matter where they may live, covid’s not going away. We can’t shrink in terror forever.

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Well, and, Clay, that is the thing. And I hear it from people every day, whether I go to the grocery store or church or one of the grandkids’ games. What I hear from people is, “We want life to go back to normal,” and what you’re talking about — those things of being able to take your child into the school building and go to the classroom and go through that day with them — that is something that is…

    It’s not only important to the emotional health of the child. That’s important to the family to be able to have that, to share that experience, to talk about the day, to talk about how important it is, to be able to get in the car together and go to the fair without a mask on and see your friends (chuckling) and go to the pool because it is really hot and see your friends and do those things that we all consider to be normal participations in our everyday life.

    And people want that. They do not want the federal government to come in and mandate masks or mandate vaccines or to mandate lockdowns. But here’s what we have to realize. The left likes lockdowns because it gives them control! They would like to have a permanent pandemic. They would like to keep you in that state so you’re dependent on them.

    You look at the bills and things that are coming through us. What are they trying to do? Make people dependent on the federal government by taking more money out of your pocket, having it go to Washington, D.C., go to programs that will have outlived their usefulness by the time our kids and grandkids have to start paying this bill. That’s what they like.

    BUCK: Senator Blackburn, it’s Buck again, and I’ve talked to you before several times about the unfolding or just continuing disaster at our southern border. I know you’re very vocal on this issue. You’re speaking about control before. It seems like the Biden administration is choosing to be out of control when it comes to what’s happening at the U.S.-Mexico border. What can you tell us about where this stands right now, both in terms of any possible action in the Congress to deal with this — we know it’s not there yet, but could there be in the future — and also what it means again in Tennessee?

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Well, before the Senate right now I have an amendment to this infrastructure behemoth — which, by the way, is not paid for. I have an amendment that would allow them to put $1 billion into a shovel-ready infrastructure project. And that amendment says, let’s take a billion dollars out of Amtrak — which has already been given billions of dollars — and let’s put that on the southern border to build a wall.

    That is a shovel-ready infrastructure project. Everything is there you need to build it. And, by the way, it would save us some money because right now, we’re having to pay people to guard all of the equipment and supplies and the border wall components. We’re having to pay people to guard it! So let’s put a billion dollars in here and build that wall. Now, that is something that the Border Patrol has been telling us that they need. President Trump listened to them.

    He gave them the ability to have more equipment, more boots on the ground, started building the wall. The Biden administration’s immigration policy is a disaster. They have turned every town into a border town, every state into a border state because of the over one million illegal immigrants from 150-plus countries that have come into this country since Joe Biden took the oath of office, and the cartels…

    You know, Buck, as we have talked about: The cartels are running that border. They are making money off of every individual that crosses that border. These people are being subjected to physical and sexual abuse. And the cartels are making money off of human trafficking, sex trafficking, drug trafficking, labor gangs, and MS-13 gangs. And this is what we are seeing in our communities. Build the wall. Secure the border. It’s a great infrastructure project. That is something that we should agree to move forward on.

    CLAY: Senator Blackburn, you mentioned the infrastructure bill. I want to talk about the budget here for a moment, which I know is gonna be up next.

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Yes.

    ClAY: Kyrsten Sinema came out, the senator from Arizona and said she wasn’t in favor of the $3.5 trillion price tag. I think Joe Manchin basically has let it be known he is not, either. Have you been talking to either of those senators? I know it’s as much of an art as it is a science. But what does this budget number end up looking like to you, given that the Democrats have to get 50 in order to get through reconciliation? What’s the cost going to be based on what you’re hearing?

    SEN. BLACKBURN: What I’m hearing on that $3.5 trillion is it’s really going to be more like $5 trillion.

    CLAY: Right.

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Now bear in mind, they have already spent $1.9 trillion and now they want to spend another $1.2 trillion to infrastructure. So you’re up a little bit over three. Now, Bernie’s budget is $3.5 trillion, but it’s going to be more like $5 trillion. And what I think we have to do is back up and look at what has happened with our nation’s debt. If you — and I’ve got a graph on my social media and my website on this.

    If you were to start at George Washington and go to George W. Bush, the day he left office, the debt was at $10.6 trillion. That was too much for me. But that’s what the nation’s debt was. Then during Obama’s term as president, basically we doubled that number. They literally ran the numbers off the credit card. Then you have President Trump, and he added to it, started trying to cut back on regulations and size of federal government.

    We had covid hit. So you had debt get added there., and now Biden is pushing us to $30 trillion in debt, and he has been in office for six months! This is something our children and grandchildren, they are going to be paying this in the form of higher taxes. And this budget that Bernie is pushing forward, it has a cap gains tax increase, it has a corporate tax increase. And, by the way, if you are a small businessperson, that one’s gonna get you. The marginal rates are going to go up. That is going to get a lot of our small business owners.

    CLAY: It’s also retroactive —

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Yeah!

    CLAY: — which is crazy to me, Senator Blackburn.

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Yes! Exactly!

    CLAY: Nobody’s hardly talking about that, but we don’t even know what the rates are going to be. Say you’re a businessperson right now, they could go back and say, h”Hy, you’ve been paying tax without even knowing what the rates are.” It’s madness.

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Well, it is madness, because you’re right. They want to make it retroactive to the first of the year. Guess what? Joe Biden wasn’t even president on January 1.

    CLAY: Yep.

    SEN. BLACKBURN: But what they’re wanting to do is make it retroactive to the first of this calendar year. So we’re just continuing our push to stop as much of this bad action as we possibly can. I’ve got a total of 30 amendments on that bill, that infrastructure bill and slowing this process down, having people look at it and become aware, having them contact their legislators and saying, “Hey, we do not want you to vote for this infrastructure bill, and we certainly don’t want you to vote for this budget.”

    BUCK: Senator Marsha Blackburn, thank you so much for being with us from the great state of Tennessee. We appreciate it.

    SEN. BLACKBURN: Thank you.

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    Biden Thinks “350 Million” Americans Have Been Vaccinated

    6 Aug 2021

    BUCK: I just saw this, and Clay and I knew we had to jump on it right away as a story here. This is on the Daily Mail right now. “Biden’s vaccine strong-arm: The White House is considering withholding federal funds from institutions, including nursing homes, universities, cruise ships, in a bid to coerce the 90 million eligible who have not gotten the shot to get the shot.”

    Now, Clay, one of my frustrations from the pandemic when I was doing a show 6 to 9 p.m. across the country was that it felt like there was a lockdown divide-and-conquer reality of things sometimes. So, I’d be in New York and I’d be saying, “Guys, this is crazy, what they’re doing to us,” and I would get people who would write in — from mostly Florida,if we’re being honest, but other places, too, Texas somewhat — and they would say, Buck, that’s kind of your problem in New York.

    And I say look, at different points that was true with regard to specific policies. But one thing that I’ve tried to tell everybody all along is that this White House wants to wield the power to make you get the shot. They’re just trying to find a way to do it. And this is now… It had been… They were thinking, “Let’s use the private sector,” Clay, “to push people.” The private sector became the third party. If they’re gonna withhold funding from different institutions, how is this not a mandate, if they actually go with this? A federal top-down one.

    CLAY: Yeah. They’re trying to get under that legal hurdle or get over it, however you want to classify it. I say “under,” because it seems underhanded to me, where you’re saying, “Oh, we’re not mandating that you get the vaccine. We’re just going to make it miserable for your employer or for your job site or wherever you might be to be able to do their job unless they bring down the heavy hand of the boss on you.”

    This is where I think we are, Buck. Let’s just talk big picture as we roll into the weekend. I was talking earlier start the show, my kids went into schools. Great. Got to shake the hands with the teachers. Got to go into the classrooms. We had an NFL game good guy last night. Remember Joe Biden said 70% by July 4th. That was his goal. Well, he missed it by a month.

    Now we’re sitting just a little bit over a month from July 4th, just over 70% of adults have gotten the covid vaccine, and it’s still not enough. And this is what we talked about with Alex Berenson yesterday. The flaw in the logic here is that they are selling the idea of Covid Zero basically: “If 100% of people had the vaccine, covid would cease to exist.

     

    When the reality is covid is the flu now. It’s going to exist forever. Buck, you saw probably this morning just like I did that they’re talking about booster shots by the fall. When have you ever gotten a vaccine and within a couple of months needed another booster shot to ensure that that vaccine is going to work? We were talking earlier —

    BUCK: You hadn’t gotten your yearly MMR booster for the last 42 years of your life, Clay?

    CLAY: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

    BUCK: Wow. You’re a risky guy.

    CLAY: So I think they sold us, Buck, on the idea, “This is measles, this is mumps, this is going to disappear,” and it’s not going to, and it’s going to be a consistent endemic issue for probably the rest of our lives. And that’s why getting back to normalcy is such a big part of this importance. Because, Buck, I wish… this is like my argument when it comes to mascot names and you know that if you change one mascot name, it doesn’t end. There’s always another demand that’s coming.

    If we were at 100% vaccination rate right now or 95% or whatever it was, there would be still be — if you look at England, if you look at Israel, if you look at countries that are far more vaccinated than us, there would still be — a substantial element of covid in this country. So what is the standard? I wish we could get Joe Biden on and just ask him, “Hey, what is the standard when you will stop making demands on the American public using covid as the excuse?”

    BUCK: The same standard for everything, which is when they darn well say so. When the people in charge as in Biden, Fauci-ites, the apparatus of control decide, that’s when all the sudden we are supposed to — and, by the way, I just want to be clear. Biden, Clay, your number’s a little bit off here. Because the commander-in-chief, 350 million Americans have been vaccinated.

    CLAY: (laughing) He just said that while we’re on the air, I think, right?

    BUCK: He’s got more people vaccinated in America, according to Joe Biden than actually exist. So I just want to note he thinks he’s doing an even better job than Clay is giving him credit for here. We continue to see that if you understand the mentality, if you understand the nature of people who like to control others, of people who believe the state is there to keep them safe and warm.

    And that coercion in the name of collectivism is always a good thing, nothing that has happened in the case of covid lockdowns, nothing that has occurred is surprising. The only thing that surprised me is actually how compliant a large portion of the American people have been up to this point, and I’m not sure we’re going to see that change enough, Clay, to get us out of this now — to the point I made before, should be done now.

    CLAY: I will say this, Buck. There’s been two things that surprise me. One, how much of sheep everybody has been, which is infuriating to both of us and to many of our listeners. I actually was surprised in May, not because I thought it was the wrong decision, but that they did away with the mask requirement. I mean, that was something that was good news, and I was kind of stunned that they did it.

    But now they’ve already brought that back, and I don’t know now what the standard is ’cause remember initially standard was, “Get to 70%, we’re fine, won’t have to worry, people will continue to get vaccinated as they say fit,” and I don’t know how we end this now. How do we land the plane? What is the victory moment against covid. Big picture. What has to occur for the Bidenites out there — to the extent they exist, the cornoabros I call them – to acknowledge this is over.

    BUCK: Why do you call them cornoabros?

    CLAY: Great question.

    BUCK: In what way are they bros? They strike me as the opposite of bros.

    CLAY: When I saw early on… It’s a good question. Back in March of last year, in my mentions — when I was actually reading the mentions — there were all of these Reddit bros rooting, it seemed to me, for coronavirus to spread as widely as possible. They bought into the fear porn, and all of their… If you went and looked at their entire history, it was all sharing and spreading the worst possible fear associated. So I said, “They’re cornoabros rooting for the corona.”

    BUCK: These are the opposite of what we think of as bros in our culture, you know? These are not people that are saying, “Yeah!” “They’re not all pounding White Claws on rooftops somewhere talking about the game. Clay, this is a different thing. I think Corona Karens may be a more —

    CLAY: Yeah. They were rooting for, basically, the coronavirus. They wanted it to spread. They were the guys who all said… You remember that? Nobody talks about it.

    BUCK: Rooting for the virus to spread? This is a whole… What?

    CLAY: Oh, yeah. There’s a whole subset of people I really believe who were rooting for chaos, and they were buying into the idea. Remember exponential spread? Remember, when everybody was trying to use the word “exponential” back in March of last year?

    BUCK: Yeah, so is Fauci a Corona Bro?

    CLAY: Yeah, I would classify Fauci as a Corona Bro.

    BUCK: I just think of Fauci as the opposite of a bro. (laughing)

    CLAY: It’s an interesting use of the word “bro,” but he’s basically in the corona is going to —

    BUCK: It sounds like we’re talking about a beer commercial, when you’re talking about cornoabros —

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: — like people are out drink Coronas. I don’t know. It’s a different vibe. But I get what you’re saying. Yes, there are people who have been all along —

    CLAY: So how do we land the plane? Do you have an idea? Like, I would love to hear from Fauci himself, honestly, because he’s gonna change the answer like 15 different times. But when is this all…? What has to happen in order for you, Dr. Fauci, to say this is over?

    BUCK: You gotta have at least six months of Fauci going on MSNBC and saying (impression), “So we’re almost there, not there yet, getting closer to there.”

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: “We’re like we’re in the general vicinity with the diminution of cases where we’re approaching a place where credulity could reach such a stage.”

    CLAY: How quickly did you dislike Fauci, by the way?

    BUCK: Right away.

    CLAY: Immediately.

    BUCK: Right away.

    CLAY: Even back in March like early on?

    BUCK: When I say right away, it took me about a month.

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    CLAY: Here’s Joe Biden saying that he has gotten 350 million Americans — which is, by the way, more people than live in America — vaccinated.

    BIDEN: We, uhh, have roughly 350 million people vaccinated United States and billions around the world, who said well over — what’s the number again? I remind myself: 350 million Americans have already been vaccinated!

    BUCK: I mean, saying it once, Clay, is one thing, but saying it twice?

    CLAY: It’s so uncomfortable. It’s one thing to misspeak because anybody out there who’s ever been talked about with numbers. But, first of all, even on something that significant, I would think that you would not misspeak, right? Because the number of Americans that have been vaccinated is arguably the central focus of your entire administration so far.

    And you would think that you would see that number and recognize that’s more people than live in the United States. So if somebody gave him that nobody or he jotted it down and he couldn’t actually read his own writing, you would think in the back of your head, “Oh, that can’t be right. That’s 20 million-ish more people than actually live in the United States,” and every person – -man, woman, and child — is not eligible to get vaccine.

    Again, it is Thanksgiving with an elderly relative, unfortunately, who is slowly losing their ability to communicate like they have historically. That’s what Joe Biden’s entire presidency is. And it’s unfortunate, and it’s amazing to me because we spent so much time in the media, Buck, talking about the 25th Amendment and Donald Trump and whether he had to be removed. We made him go get a cognitive test to prove it. Then he got the cognitive test, and they didn’t believe the doctor who had given him the cognitive test. And nobody’s pointing out all of these egregious flaws from Joe Biden every time he speaks.

    BUCK: I’ve actually started to think that the Democrats — the same way that they enjoy smashing the double standards that they deploy all the time in our faces now, they don’t shy away from them, they’re not embarrassed by them. It’s, “Yeah, that’s right we hold you to different standards. What are you gonna do about it?”

    That is the prevailing attitude among the left in this country, among the Marxist authoritarians. On this Joe Biden issue, I also think that they get some degree of glee. This is like payback for being subjected, mistakable minds, being subjected to Trump for four years. They’re saying, “See? We’ll even make this babbling, deteriorating clown president.”

    CLAY: Frequently incoherent, the man who’s the leader of the Free World.

    BUCK: It’s also, “What are you gonna do about it?” We managed to make this happen, and, what, you’re gonna say have him step aside? Because let’s be honest, I mean, Kamala taking over for Biden on a policy side might be worse. But nobody actually knows because what does Kamala stand for? It’s not clear to me that Kamala stands for much of anything other than her own political career.

    She sort of goes where the Democrat Party wants her to. So that’s a whole other component of this we’re gonna have to see going forward. ‘Cause I speak to Democrats about this sometimes, I ask them. I said, “So Biden. It doesn’t matter how much of this degeneration we see, he’s not gonna step aside?” They say, “No, no, no, ’cause it can’t be Kamala, but they can’t push Kamala aside ’cause that’ll look like the Democrat Party’s a bunch of frauds to the diversity and inclusion issue,” which they are, by the way.

    CLAY: They are totally. But they would look sexist and racist which is why I believe the only way this revolves — and we didn’t spend a lot of time talking about it, Buck. But this week it came out that Kamala Harris is the lowest liked, lowest favorable rating since the 1970s for VP.

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    Ashli Babbitt’s Family Files Wrongful Death Lawsuit

    6 Aug 2021

    CLAY: The only person who actually died on January 6th as a result of the incident itself inside of the Capitol was Ashli Babbitt, former soldier who was shot by a Capitol police officer. We still don’t know who the Capitol police officer is, but now her family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit, and there may well be substantially interesting discovery. Remember, we’re talking about an entire investigation that is going on into January 6th and almost no discussion surrounding Ashli Babbitt.

    Compare that, for instance, to Charlottesville where one woman was killed in the Charlottesville protests years ago. That’s when Joe Biden claimed that he made the decision to run for president himself with what was going on in Charlottesville. But Ashli Babbitt, we still don’t know her full story. So, Buck, her family has filed over a $10 million lawsuit to try to get to the essence of what happened on that day.

    BUCK: Yeah, Ashli Babbitt was an Air Force veteran. As we know, she was shot in the neck, and you can see it on video. So, it’s one of these police use-of-force incidents, Capitol Hill Police in this case, where it’s quite apparent exactly what happened. And it does not show the officer giving any warning. It does not show the officer saying, “Halt or I’ll shoot” or anything like that.

    He draws his weapon, shoots an unarmed woman in the neck through a door. She hadn’t even fully breached the door yet. He shot her through the door. We don’t know the officer’s name and also we don’t even know the use-of-force justification in this circumstance. ‘Cause we talked about, Clay, all the different riots across the country –and I’m actually doing a special tonight on The First TV called The Other Insurrection about all the stuff that happened in 2020, all the political violence and the threat of even more of it if Biden didn’t win.

    I don’t think we have nearly enough attention paid to that, and if we’re really gonna have a conversation about stopping violence, you’d have to include that and start with that, quite honestly. But with Ashli Babbitt with this lawsuit, Clay, they’re gonna have to tell us what happened. The discovery side of this is gonna mean that they’re gonna have to. There’s not a national security secrecy component here that I’m aware of, at least. It’s not like this is the CIA where they can say, “Classified.”

    CLAY: Yes. So for people out there sort of a layman’s analysis here, Ashli Babbitt was shot and killed by the Capitol Police. Her family has filed a civil lawsuit seeking millions of dollars in damages. And just a quick analysis here: Civil lawsuit is different than a criminal lawsuit. Criminal lawsuit, usually what you are facing is time in jail. It’s brought by the state or the federal government.

    You are the defendant; they are the prosecutor. In a civil lawsuit, you are the plaintiff. That is, you or your family are filing the lawsuit, and they are filing the lawsuit on her behalf, seeking compensation for what they are arguing is an unjust death that she suffered at the hands of the Capitol Police. And so the way that this will play out is, I would imagine… I don’t even know her family at all, but a huge part of the reason to file this lawsuit is probably not monetary at all. It’s to actually get answers to questions about how she came to die that day.

    BUCK: Right. Force the disclosure component.

    CLAY: That’s right, and so in a court setting, you would get all the information certainly of the shooter. You would get something simple like the shooter’s name. Meaning the Capitol Police officer who, again, I’m not saying he did anything illegal. Certainly, they made the decision that he did not. But the standard of behavior for illegality in a criminal setting is different when it comes to civil liability.

    It’s 50% plus a scintilla, as opposed to beyond a reasonable doubt. So, what sort of information did he receive from his commanding officers? What sort of threat did he perceive? What was the situation on the ground at the time that he fired that gun? All of these things would be examined as a part of the lawsuit.

    BUCK: Right, and to your point, you’re not saying that he, the officer, necessarily did anything that violated rules of engagement, broke the law, did anything criminal. We have to be consistent here. We do say that law enforcement officers have escalation and use-of-force tactics, techniques, and procedures — and if they stay within them, they are on the right side of the law.

    It certainly looks to me, although the adjudication has already technically been made of this. The courts in D.C. or the prosecutor’s office I should say are not — have decided not to bring any kind of charges or even disciplinary measures. But even still, we do have a right to know, “Okay. What was the specific authorization for use of force in this case?” because if they’re going to tell us the reason there were no charges… The public should know this, Clay, right?

    CLAY: Yes, I agree. We should know the man’s name.

    BUCK: — the reason there were no charges against the officer, or any discipline of any kind is that he was in fear of his life, let’s just say, ’cause that’s generally the law enforcement officer’s applicable here. You either fear serious bodily harm or death for you or someone else. But then we can look at this and say, “Really? He was in fear of his life from the unarmed woman? No one else was killed. He was in fear of his life?” Then we can have a public conversation about how interesting that that’s a fear-for-life situation but Antifa head to toe in black gear with paramilitary batons and shields isn’t.

    CLAY: And no door between you and someone else, right? I think that’s significant. There is a barrier of some form or fashion. Yes, you’re right. All of these officers who, if we had seen…? I think it’s a great point by you. If we had seen, let’s say, a D.C. police officer pull out a gun and shoot somebody throwing things at him — which happened all the time in D.C. during all these protests — there would have been an immediate demand that charges be brought.

    BUCK: They would have demanded murder charges right away.

    CLAY: Absolutely right.

    BUCK: Yeah.

    CLAY: And we would have known the name of the officer who fired the gun within probably an hour. It would have all been public. So sometimes — and again I would say with this Ashli Babbitt-related situation, sometimes the best way to get information, sadly, is to have to file a lawsuit to put people on the record in a court of law in order to get information you deserve.

    BUCK: We will continue to follow this closely, because, obviously, most of the media doesn’t want to spend time on this, and we have not forgotten what happened in any respect that day.

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    It’s Open Line Friday!

    6 Aug 2021

    The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show carries on Rush’s proud tradition that is Open Line Friday. We offer it each Friday as an opportunity for you to talk about anything you want to discuss, because Monday through Thursday the calls are tightly screened.

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