Field of Dreams! Open Line Friday the 13th Film Fun

13 Aug 2021

CLAY: Man, it’s Friday, let’s have a little bit of fun. So, I got a positive story for you, Buck. Field of Dreams is gonna be one of the most-watched regular season baseball games in probably a couple of decades. What they did — for those of you who are fans of the original movie, which came out all the way back in 1989 — was they built the Iowa cornfield baseball field, and yesterday the Yankees and the White Sox played a game.

It ended in a walk-off home run into the cornstalks. It was riveting television. It was fabulous in all respects. They began the game by having Kevin Costner walk out of the cornstalks like he did in the movie and then all of the players walked out of the cornstalks as well. And I gotta tell you, it was an incredible scene. A lot of fun. I know that a huge number, I would imagine, of our listeners watched it. Buck Sexton, I bet you didn’t see one second. Have you seen a highlight of the game?

BUCK: I was busy digging into what’s going on in Afghanistan, Clay. I hate to break it to you. I did not have time to see the Field of Dreams game. I did watch the movie back in the day.

CLAY: Did you like the movie?

BUCK: I like the movie. I would say I’d think I’d give it —

CLAY: Are you a Kevin Costner fan or no?

BUCK: Wow. Look at this! Look at Lawyer Clay, the prosecutor is not done here.

CLAY: The way you said “like” made me think it’s not necessarily an endorsement.

BUCK: So here’s the thing I would argue, and our audience people have very different opinions on this, I’m sure. I would argue that Kevin Costner’s body of work includes some very good movies. That does not mean that Kevin Costner is one of my favorite or even very good actors. That’s the only controversial thing. I feel like you could replace him with a lot of other guys in the eighties and nineties and nobody would have known the difference.

CLAY: All right, so we’re gonna open up phone lines here, pro or con on Kevin Costner.

Absolute chills. #MLBatFieldofDreams pic.twitter.com/JsejH3OsWI

— FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX) August 12, 2021

BUCK: See, here’s the trap.

CLAY: And here’s the deal. I loved Kevin Costner already, but I love the television show Yellowstone. I can’t wait for season, I think, it’s three or four. I’m caught up. I think it’s season three that’s about to start. You hate Yellowstone too! I’m not sure you’re an American.

BUCK: I feel like it’s a little bit bleak and a little depressing and the people involved are all leading very kind of sad and empty lives. But that said, the sets are beautiful. I do like all the scenes of buffalo and Montana and all that other stuff. So, I got through about five or six episodes, ’cause a lot of people that I like and respect out there have said, “You gotta check out this show.”

CLAY: I love the show.

BUCK: Longmire, which has kind of a similar thing, I found easier for me than that. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen that one.

CLAY: No.

BUCK: It’s about a sheriff out West, sort of similar situation — similar setting, I mean — to Yellowstone. But Kevin Costner? I don’t know. You feel like he plays the same guy. I love Vince Vaughn, I love Vince Vaughn. We should actually have Vince Vaughn on the show at some point.

I’m a big Vince Vaughn fan. It is also true to say Vince Vaughn plays himself in every movie he’s ever been in. He plays Vince Vaughn. I think that’s true of Kevin Costner, but I just think that Kevin Costner is… I don’t get as excited about him as other people. That’s all I could tell you.

CLAY: So you’ve never been to Montana.

BUCK: You saw Waterworld, right? Come on.

CLAY: Yeah, that was 25 years ago, 30 years.

BUCK: Ohhhh! Look at this!

CLAY: What? Look, Field of Dreams was fantastic. Bull Durham was fantastic. What was the one where was out in the west and he was with…?

BUCK: Dances With Wolves, he got the Oscar. He was probably the biggest Hollywood draw in the country for a couple of years there, I think that’s fair to say.

CLAY: From like ’88 to ’94 Kevin Costner was as big of a movie star as there was anywhere in the world, right? I’m guessing those years.

BUCK: He’s also apparently a good guy from the rumor the mill that I’m able to pick up, six degrees of Kevin Bacon away.

CLAY: I love Yellowstone. I think his character in Yellowstone is absolutely phenomenal. I love everything about it. Now have I’ve never been to Montana, but I did find out —

BUCK: Well, I’ve been to Montana, so let me tell you, Clay, it’s a beautiful place.

CLAY: But I went out to Park City in March with my family and found out that they filmed a lot of the Yellowstone scenery in that Utah area, which is also incredibly beautiful. So I think our audience is going to be wildly favorable towards Yellowstone and Kevin Costner.

BUCK: They’re gonna like Yellowstone, I think, because there’s also very few well-done, high-production shows that take that part of America and try to depict it, right?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: You have endless shows that are set in New York and Los Angeles and Miami.

CLAY: If Yellowstone were accurate, the murder rate in Montana —

BUCK: Correct.

CLAY: — would be astronomical. It would make Chicago look like the safest place on the plant.

BUCK: Well, that was true about Longmire as well. You’ve got this sheriff out in the Dakotas or whatever and this guy’s getting in the cartel gunfighters with eight guys at a time.

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: You say, “I don’t know if like Billings, Montana, is really getting that wild with the gunfights in contemporary days. I’m not sure about that.”

CLAY: Yeah, I loved Deadwood, too, in a similar way.

BUCK: I’m watching it now.

CLAY: Oh, you’re just catching up?

BUCK: Deadwood is amazing.

CLAY. Oh, it’s so good.

BUCK: I’m almost done with season 1. I just started that recently. Do we want to take a couple of Field of Dreams calls and then talk about Friday the 13th and the scary movies?

CLAY: Yeah, yeah, yea. It’s Friday the 13th, by the way, out there.

BUCK: Ooh.

CLAY: Let’s take some of your calls.

BUCK: Yeah, don’t walk under a ladder. Peter in California, what do you got for us?

CALLER: Happy Friday, Clay and Buck.

BUCK: Thank you.

CALLER: Well, I really appreciated the Field of Dreams game. That was the best neutral-site game I’ve ever seen. I hope MLB will be able to make it a permanent thing going forward. I really, really appreciate it so much. As for an idea I’ve got for an outdoor game, an outdoor sporting event, the NFL should hold a football game annually at the Remember the Titans stadium or the Friday Night Lights stadium. I think that would be really incredible.

BUCK: I also love… Thank you so much, Peter.

CLAY: Friday Night Lights is unbelievable show.

BUCK: We’re talking that are set in a part of America that doesn’t always get attention, and Friday Night Lights? (chuckles) I watched it all the way through twice. That’s how much I liked it.

CLAY: Friday Night Lights is one of the best dramas to ever air on network television. It’s an incredible show. And for those of you out there who maybe missed it or didn’t see it, it’s riveting, incredible television. I like the idea, by the way… The NFL is adding a 17th game. I love the idea of every NFL team playing at 17th game in a nontraditional stadium —

BUCK: Yeah, that’d be cool!

CLAY: — where fans wouldn’t otherwise get to see an NFL game, right? So if you played a game in Montana or in Utah or in — I don’t know — Arkansas, all these different places that don’t have access to NFL stadiums, I think it’d be really cool to do.

BUCK: Yeah. Well, let’s get Chris in Conroe, Texas. What’s up, Chris?

CALLER: Hey, Clay and Buck, I really appreciate the opportunity to talk to you guys. You’re doing a wonderful job carrying the torch for Rush. We all love you.

BUCK: Thank you.

CLAY: I appreciate that.

CALLER: (garbled cell) As far as Kevin Costner goes, I don’t agree with his politics, but I’ve enjoyed most of his movies through his career, Bull Durham, — Dances with Wolves was fabulous, beautiful — and then the one I really enjoyed most recently was the Netflix special.

BUCK: The Highwaymen. Thank you. I’m sorry. You’re cutting off a little there. But he was saying he likes Kevin Costner’s The Highwaymen about Bonnie and Clyde.

CLAY: I haven’t seen it.

BUCK: Very good. Very, very well done. Very true to life. Excellent. I would say that was one of my favorite Kevin Costner appearances.

CLAY: It’s no Yellowstone, I’m gonna guess, but it was good.

BUCK: (laughing) I like that you’re all-in on Yellowstone.

CLAY: Oh, I love it. I love it.

BUCK: You’re absolutely all-in on Yellowstone. Ray in Iowa. Ray, what do you got?

CALLER: I like Field of Dreams — I’m not a baseball fan, but I like it — and I like Dances With Wolves and Silverado. The rest are kind of iffy or corny, however you want to call it.

CLAY: Have you seen Yellowstone yet, Ray?

CALLER: No, I haven’t.

CLAY: Add it to the list!

BUCK: Yeah, Ray, thank you so much, man. Clay, I would just say this. We’re also not even counting that movie where Kevin Costner is the last vote in America to determine the president.

CLAY: I forgot about that one.

BUCK: I know every actor has their —

CLAY: He made some questionable decisions in his career.

BUCK: He’s got some rough stuff along with the ones that were all thrown out there and talking about. It’s funny, I remember we talked about sports movies, your favorite all-time you said was Major League. I said Rocky, right? That was our breakdown on that.

CLAY: I think from a pure entertainment perspective. I asked people what their favorite baseball movie was and people loved The Sandlot. Now, The Sandlot a little bit younger than us but my kids think The Sandlot is great.

BUCK: Oh, I love that movie. That’s a great movie.

CLAY: It is a great movie.

BUCK: Let’s come back into some weekend thoughts for all of you as well as Friday the 13th, if you’re into horror. I never asked Clay about scary movies.

CLAY: Oh, I love scary movies.

BUCK: I had a feeling you would. I’m actually —

CLAY: We have a big Halloween party every year. My wife is all-in on it; it’s one of the favorite things that we do.

BUCK: I’m a little bit… I don’t know. I stay away from super scary movies.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: We’re in the closing segment of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show for this Friday, and it is Friday the 13th! We’re gonna talk a little bit about some scary movies to close it out here. I’ll just get right to it, Clay, for me nothing comes close — and there’s a quick backstory to this one. I used to live on Prospect Street in Georgetown, and I lived in a little place and apartment —

CLAY: Oh yeah.

BUCK: — and I had to walk past The Exorcist steps from the end of that movie every single day, and every time I walk past, you look down those stairs. They become kind of a tourist attraction now.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: For me, scariest movie ever made, especially as a Roman Catholic who went to Jesuit school growing up? The Exorcist. No question.

CLAY: They’re remaking The Exorcist, I think, right? Like a new trilogy, I believe. I feel like they just sold that recently to one of the streaming companies. But I gotta tell you this. In college, one of the most fun places to be was Georgetown for Halloween. People go all out. Everybody’s dressed up. It’s an incredibly awesome scene in our nation’s capital, Georgetown. For college, that is one of the most fun things you could do. I love scary movies, and —

BUCK: No but what’s the scariest of all time, Clay? We gotta pin you down, buddy .You can’t appeal to all the scary movie fans you gotta pick a side.

CLAY: I will tell you this. After one of the Conjuring I went to go see it by myself, I came out home and my kids and my wife were out of town, and I left every light in the house on, and I locked the bedroom door because I was scared. This is me at 36-37 years old. It’s not like I was a young guy.

BUCK: You’re in Nashville! This is when you cock the 12-gauge. You’re all right.

CLAY: I was a grown man who left all the lights on in my house and locked all the doors after I went to go see the film. I love those Conjuring movies. Those are spooky. Those are well done.

BUCK: Conjuring? All right. I’ve never seen one and probably won’t.

CLAY: Oh, they’re good.

BUCK: Ooo, scary movies. Especially anything that has to do with demons or possession.

CLAY: Yeah, there you go.

BUCK: Oh, that’s…?

CLAY: That’s what it all is.

BUCK: Oh, my gosh. No, no. I can’t. I spoke to a priest once who does the whole exorcism thing, and I said —

CLAY: Oh, that’s scary, which is real.

BUCK: — I don’t ever want to talk to you about this again.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: That’s not something we’re gonna do. Let’s get to some of the calls here, shall we? Friday the 13th. Wanda in Maine. Wanda, welcome.

CALLER: Hi. First, I love Kevin Costner. Yellowstone, best television show on TV.

CLAY: There you go.

BUCK: Look at that.

CALLER: Beth is my favorite, next to Kevin Costner.

BUCK: I wonder how Clay gets his cousins to call in with such regularity.

CALLER: (laughing)

BUCK: Wanda, thanks so much for calling in from Maine. We appreciate it.

CLAY: Right now, Succession is my favorite show.

BUCK: I would cosign. But it’s not on right now, right?

CLAY: I think the new season’s about to start.

BUCK: Is a brilliant show, absolutely like Succession. Totally great.

CLAY: So well done. But Yellowstone is my second favorite.

BUCK: And I would recommend for anybody out there, Peaky Blinders, but don’t be shy about putting the subtitles on because it’s really hard to understand what the heck those people are talking about.

CLAY: Oh yeah.

BUCK: Sal in eastern Pennsylvania, what’s up, Sal?

CALLER: God rest Rush Limbaugh. With Biden in the White House, every day is Friday the 13th.

BUCK: All right, Sal.

CLAY: That’s not a bad line.

BUCK: Thank you, Sal, gentleman judge. We appreciate it. I gotta say we’re trying to close out things positively and Sal comes along. “We’re not done. We’re not down with Biden yet.”

CLAY: There’s been a lot of negativity out there in America. We’re going to say, “Hey, let’s send people to the weekend in a good mood,” and Sal says that. There’s some truth to it. There’s some truth to it.

BUCK: David down in Tampa, Florida. What’s up, David?

CALLER: I just wanted to say, he would never be doing the current movies that you’re talking about.

CLAY: Kevin Costner wouldn’t have been as good?

CALLER: Yeah, without first being tutored by Robert Duvall.

CLAY: Oh, Robert Duvall is so good. If you like westerns — my wife makes fun of me about this — watch the television miniseries Lonesome Dove based on the Larry McMurtry novel. Tommy Lee Jones and Robert Duvall. One of the best westerns ever made. You seen it?

BUCK: Haven’t.

CLAY: The book’s phenomenal.

BUCK: I just made myself watch The Outlaw Josey Wales for the first time —

CLAY: Oh yeah yeah, yeah.

BUCK: — which, I have to say, I think held up very well as a film. I think it was really solid. I was impressed. Clint Eastwood’s such an American icon. I think we probably would agree on that one.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Incredible, and you look at his recent movies… I actually watched In the Line of Fire recently, too, because it was on TV.

CLAY: Still good!

BUCK: Great movie. Holds up really, really well. Mark in Ohio. You got some Field of Dreams thoughts?

CALLER: Yeah. As a Cleveland Indians fan — which, I’m not sure if I’m still allowed to say that or not.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: We’ll bleep it in post.

CALLER: What’s that?

BUCK: We’ll bleep it in post. Go ahead.

CALLER: There you go! I was watching the game last night and I thought it was interesting that the only mask I saw being worn was by a girl sitting right behind home plate. So every time the camera would go to the batter, you would see her right back there, and then she’d say, “Oh, I gotta put it back on.”

BUCK: Okay. Mark, thanks so much, man. Thank you, everybody, for calling in and joining us here to have some fun on the Friday, some movie talk, some show talk to end things.

Biden’s Other Disaster: The Southern Border

13 Aug 2021

CLAY: We haven’t talked about yet what is an unmitigated disaster —

BUCK: Another one!

CLAY: …the border. Another one! (chuckles) The border, Buck Sexton. While the Biden administration may be talking about trying — which was a story earlier today. The AP reported that the Biden administration is considering restricting travel between states over covid vaccines, Buck, the situation on the border in July, 220,000, I think it was, nearly people came across. It’s basically a sieve.

There’s no protection there at all. For all of the talk about the concern surrounding covid, you’ve got people pouring across the border in numbers that haven’t been seen in 20 or more years. And now we’ve got people in the Biden administration finally acknowledging that it’s broke and it’s a disaster.

BUCK: Well, behind closed doors. Not acknowledging it in a way where we could say, “Oh, you mean you guys are starting to wake up to the reality?” Let’s just be clear, Clay. I was down in the Rio Grande sector of the U.S.-Mexico border either in March or April. It’s a few months now. But I was down there doing essentially ride-along with Border Patrol going to see what they’re seeing.

And every Border Patrol agent I talked to without exception when I posed the very straightforward question to them, “Is the border open right now?” they say “yes.” Every single member of Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement that I spoke to — who are willing to speak to me of course; the Biden administration dissents want them speaking to anybody — when I asked them, “Is the border the worst right now in terms of lawlessness, illegal crossings, human struggling, drugs transiting,” including the fentanyl that was largely responsible for killing over 90,000 Americans last year —

CLAY: It’s 30,000 more than ever before.

BUCK: — they said, “It’s the worst that it has ever been,” and as you just teed this up, the DHS secretary, Mayorkas, is — in a leaked audio to Fox News — saying that it’s “unsustainable.” No surprise.

MAYORKAS: This is unsustainable. Uh, these numbers cannot continue. We cannot get to a point, ummm, where we were a couple weeks ago, and we’re gonna make sure that doesn’t happen. We’re looking at the policy options.

“Americans are sick and tired of endless mandates while watching COVID-19 cases surge at the border,” said @RepAndyBiggsAZ.

4 in 10 #IllegalImmigrants released in #Laredo, Texas, last week tested positive for #COVID19, according to officials there. https://t.co/QRrusdhWre

— The Epoch Times (@EpochTimes) August 13, 2021

BUCK: Clay, I know the audio wasn’t great. So for everyone listening, he said (summarized), “It’s unsustainable. We cannot keep having these numbers. We’re looking at all policy options.” This is a guy in charge of DHS who — behind closed doors when he’s not in front of cameras — is saying all those things those right-wingers have been saying about our border is true. It is unsustainable.

CLAY: The numbers speak for themselves, Buck. So much of this is about narrative versus data. You and I focus on the data to make arguments, for the most part. I don’t know if — and this is something I’ve been talking about for years now. I don’t know if the average person in the media is too dumb to look at data and glean lessons from it — which is one option, and I think it probably applies to some people — or, two, they are so committed to whatever narrative they’re being told to push that they don’t even recognize or are unwilling to discuss when the data clearly demonstrates that whatever narrative they’re pushing is untrue.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: “How much is too much?” is the question that you want to start to ask about this Biden team. What have they done well? Remember how they were doing all the victory dances about covid and vaccination and, oh, they’re so much better at distributing shots. Trump did Operation Warp Speed, but the distribution which they already had in place (after pretending they didn’t when the Biden team took over), that was their big calling card, Clay, that and the economy, which, by the way, they said won’t have really bad inflation but actually looks like it is gonna have some really bad inflation.|

CLAY: Every choice they’re making is failing.

BUCK: The border: Awful choices leading to awful outcomes. Crime: Awful choices about defund police leading to awful outcomes. Afghanistan, the evacuation, the drawdowns: Awful choices leading to awful outcomes. You really have to think… I guess they’re better about preferred pronoun usage in this White House, so, yaaaay! We can all be happy with that.

CLAY: It’s really a funny thing to think about. Unfortunately, we’re all bearing the brunt of the failures. What have they actually done well?

BUCK: (silence)

CLAY: It’s just crickets. And not only not done well, what has not blown up in their faces in a disastrous fashion? And I really think, Buck, if Alex Berenson’s right — which is why I would encourage everybody to go listen to that interview we did with him at the beginning of the second hour — this covid implosion is going to be impossible to ignore and covid is going to become a metaphor for failures everywhere.

BUCK: Just remember, their failures, unfortunately, only report in more authoritarianism.

CLAY: Well, that’s the fear.

BUCK: We all have to be ready for that.

CLAY: That’s the fear.

BUCK: And that’s what I would expect going forward.

Alex Berenson Shares Unreported Truths About Covid

13 Aug 2021

,BUCK: We have our friend Alex Berenson with us now. You all know him as author of Unreported Truths About Covid-19, a series you can get online. Also, to his Substack. Please subscribe, because if he gets kicked off of Twitter, you’re not gonna know how to find his stuff. Alex, great to have you back.

ALEX: Thank you for that. Yeah. Last week I was on. Fortunately, Twitter unlocked my account and I’ve managed to stay afloat this week. And, you know, I’d like to say I haven’t censored myself at all, but that is not entirely true, and I’m still exploring what I’m gonna do. But, yes, please get on the Substack. A lot of people still haven’t heard what that is.

But it is a newsletter platform, and it is uncensored — at least for now — and it’s really good. My Substack is just my name. It’s called Unreported Truths but if you put my name in, “Alex Berenson,” you can find it. So, I’m sorry. I apologize for promoting it so aggressively, but I do worry that Twitter is gonna cancel me. I only have one strike left.

BUCK: So, tell us all right now. What’s going on, man? We have all this pressure on Florida and Texas in particular, people are saying, “Record cases, hospitals overwhelmed, ventilators being sent to DeSantis,” all this stuff. What’s true; what’s not? What’s happening with the vaccines?

ALEX: Okay. So there’s a whole bunch of stuff happening. A, Florida and Texas have a lot of cases right now. They had a lot of cases last year at this time. This virus has tended to move seasonally. That’s been a very strong seasonal and geographic pattern. And all the people who are telling you, “Vaccines are saving the Northeast and the Upper Midwest,” give it a month, okay? It’s gonna migrate. Just like I think I said this to you last week.

I don’t love making categorical predictions, but I’m gonna make this one. Okay? At this time in October the upper Midwest will have a surge of cases. It’s absolutely gonna happen. It happened last year. The vaccines are not gonna prevent it. They’ve prevented nothing in Israel, and they’ve prevented nothing or very little in the U.K. and they’re gonna prevent nothing in the upper Midwest.

CLAY: I want to ask you, Alex — thanks for coming on with us — about Israel. I saw you just tweet out — and I may mess these numbers up a little bit ’cause I jotted them down as I was doing the radio show, but — 451 seriously ill with covid hospitalizations going on right now in Israel; 266 of those 451 people have been fully vaccinated. That means roughly 60% of the people that are hospitalized right now with serious covid issues Israel are fully vaccinated. And, by the way, last year before the vaccines even existed there were fewer people hospitalized in Israel. What’s happened?

ALEX: So, it just occurs to me one thing. There were not fewer. There were slightly more.

CLAY: Okay.

ALEX: If the trends continue, within a few more days there will be more vaccinated people hospitalized in Israel in 2021 in August than there were total people hospitalized in Israel in August 2020 — if the current trends continue and I do think they will continue. Certainly, the Israelis are very, very concerned that they’ll continue. And they’re talking about a variety of lockdown and mask measures that they’d eliminated because covid was supposed to go away once you got really high vaccination rates.

CLAY: Yes.

ALEX: What is going on is that the vaccines are failing. Okay, I’m not allowed to say it that way openly on Twitter anymore, but I can say it to your audience; I can say it to you. The vaccines are failing. There’s two possible reasons they’re failing. One is time, that you get this burst of antibodies after the second dose when you’re, quote-unquote, “fully vaccinated.” Those antibodies don’t last.

They don’t last that long if you get covid naturally, either. But what happens if you get covid naturally is you have a broader immune response. Your T-cells and your B-cells — which are immune system cells that are responsible for long-term immunity. They’re the reason why you don’t get measles decades after your measles vaccination.

Not because you’ve got antibodies to measles circulating. It’s because your T and B cells know how to recognize measles. The vaccines do not seem to produce a good response, at least in one very important form of T-cell. So when your antibodies go away, your protection seems to go away. So, that’s one potential problem. The second potential problem is that the virus is mutating, right?

So, there’s a Delta variant. The Delta variant is a real thing, and, unfortunately, it appears that natural immunity provides broader protection against mutated variants than the vaccine immunity. Now, the worst-case scenario, which I have barely talked about because there’s not strong evidence for it right now and I don’t want to freak people out, but a paper came out on Monday in a British journal — and it’s a real British journal — suggesting that this is at least a theoretical possibility is something called antibody-dependent enhancement.

What that means is that the antibodies that you produce after being vaccinated, if the virus mutates in a specific way, might wind up actually not blocking the variant from entering your cells but helping the variant to enter your cells.

That is a very dangerous thing if it happened. Now, I want to be clear. This is not… We don’t know this is happening. Everybody who’s looked at the data for months said this is not a high risk. But this new paper and on-the-ground data in Israel I think are concerning enough that people should at least know about this.

CLAY: Alex, I got a good friend who asked me this question and I think it’s a fantastic one. Why are Israel and England not looking the exact same right now? But we understand it’s opened up. They also have a high vaccination rate. Is it because they have more natural immunity in England? How would you explain the difference between the Israeli story right now and the English story, and is there any particular reason why you think America is gonna be more like England or more like Israel?

ALEX: That is a great question. I fear that the answer is we will be more like Israel. Now, there’s a couple things. First of all, the data out of Israel is the best. The data out of England is a little bit confusing ’cause they have a bit of a “test-demic” going on. They have had it over the summer, meaning there’s a lot of cases that are asymptomatic and they have these tests called lateral-flow tests which were very cheap and self-reported and there were reasons, actually, to believe that…

As of Wednesday, Israel had 451 seriously ill Covid patients in its hospitals.

276 are vaccinated: 266 fully, 10 partly.

A year ago today, before vaccines existed, it had a TOTAL of 368 seriously ill hospitalized patients.

If this is vaccine success, I’d hate to see failure.

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) August 13, 2021

For example, an 18-year-old who didn’t want to go to school would just self-report a positive test in June. So some of that was happening. Okay. So the Israeli data is probably the best data. But more importantly than that is Israel used only an mRNA vaccine. They used only the Pfizer vaccine, and they used it on the correct — quote-unquote, “correct schedule.” So you got your first dose and then get your second dose three weeks later.

England, the U.K., used both the Pfizer vaccine and an AstraZeneca vaccine, which was supposed to be actually less potent but maybe (sigh) isn’t less potent. We don’t know, okay? And they used that Pfizer vaccine on a weird dosing schedule. They were a little bit short on doses in the spring so they were giving people one dose and then a second dose eight to 12 weeks later. And so even though that wasn’t, quote-unquote, “the correct regimen” (chuckles) there’s now a little bit of evidence that it might actually work better which is something else we did not know because we had rushed this so much.

BUCK: Alex, what do you expect is going to happen here as the data rolls in in this country over the next let’s say 30 to 60 days? We’re led to believe that all we have to do is get those vaccination numbers up and everything will be better and anybody who’s not going along with that — this is what all the mandates rebuke rooted in — is a troglodyte who is a horrible person who is ruining America, is the reason people are still sick, all this stuff, but they’re already talking about boosters already, Fauci, not like some crazy blogger somewhere. So, what do you think is gonna happen?

ALEX: By the way, it’s not just boosters. It’s not just boosters for older compromised folks. Fauci said yesterday everyone was supposed to get boosters.

BUCK: Yeah.

ALEX: So, listen, I really sort of got lost there in the weeds about Israel and the U.K., but the one-sentence answer is I think the U.S. is gonna be more like Israel. Okay, we only used mRNA vaccines and we used them on the correct schedule, and I think anybody who doesn’t believe that what… In Israel in June, you could start to see this late June, early July.

I was warning about it, people were telling me I was an idiot. Cases were still so low; there were no deaths. I had no idea what I was talking about. That is all out the window, okay? It’s all out the window. Israel is headed for a bad month, okay — at best, a bad month — and I don’t understand anybody who thinks that’s not gonna happen in the U.S. And let me be totally clear: Israeli vaccine levels were basically the highest in the world. They were the highest in the world, higher than the U.S.

BUCK: So, when the Biden administration says, Alex, this is important — ’cause I keep seeing these lab coat pundits going on TV now saying 99% of the people in our hospital, they’re all unvaxxed. We keep hearing this all the time.

ALEX: It’s a lie. It’s a lie. It’s a lie. It’s a lie. I’m gonna say it straight out. It’s a lie. The data… Again, we have a couple states that provide decent data. They show that, for example, in Oklahoma about a quarter of the people in Oklahoma who were hospitalized in July (chuckles) were vaccinated, okay? Those numbers are going to go up.

There’s no reason they wouldn’t go up. The human biology is the same in Israel as in the United States. The vaccines are gonna fail in the United States just like they’re failing in Israel, okay? It’s only a question of how bad they’re gonna fail. And when I came on with you guys last week, it looked bad. This week it looks worse.

CLAY: Can you come back with us for one more segment here, Alex —

ALEX: (laughing) I told your…

CLAY: — to answer a couple more questions?

ALEX: (laughing) I told your producer you guys were gonna ask m that. (laughing) Yes, of course I can.

CLAY: I just want to ask a couple more questions, ’cause what you’re telling us is something that I think is significant as we kind of work our way through it, which is that we are headed for a real mess and that getting more people vaccinated is not going to solve it, which is the act opposite of what the mainstream media is telling everybody, right?

ALEX: Yeah, that’s what we’re all hearing.

BUCK: There’s so much that doesn’t add up right now. We are gonna keep Alex through the break for another one.

ALEX: (laughing)

BUCK: If you appreciate what he’s doing here, folks, go subscribe to his Substack. I’m a big believer in actually supporting contact creators, researchers, thought leaders directly these days as much as you can, ’cause God knows when Big Tech is gonna decide to crush them.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: We’re talking with Alex Berenson. I want to dive right back into it. You’re basically the Grim Reaper here, Alex. I want to ask one question to allow you to say something positive. Did you enjoy at the same time, the Field of Dreams game in the Iowa cornfield yesterday on Fox?

ALEX: It was fantastic, wasn’t it?

CLAY: Yeah. All right. I just want to make sure. I wanted to be able to say something positive.

BUCK: Now I’m gonna take us back into the world of “Alex is making us all pretty scared about what’s gonna happen but we might as well know the truth now.” And, Alex, to that end, where are we with hospitalization shortage right now? There’s a report that I’m just seeing from some guy who’s a blue check out of Tennessee, so here’s one of these journos.

He says, “Breaking from Tennessee! There are no beds in middle Tennessee right now, impossible to find a staffed ICU, ER, or medical surgery bed, according to chief medical officer for Sumner Regional Medical Center.” We’ve heard about this also in Austin, Texas. We’ve heard about this in Florida. What’s true? Are they overwhelmed? How could they be overwhelmed when there’s a third of the case rate nationally?

ALEX: Well, it is regional, okay? So look, we saw last summer Houston, Texas — Houston’s a giant metro area, right? There’s eight million people in southeast Texas. It came under pressure. Parts of Florida came under pressure last year. Pressure does not mean that if you get in a car accident there’s gonna be no ICU bed for you. Okay? The hysteria overwhelms or overruns what’s really happening.

It doesn’t mean that the hospitals aren’t full and doesn’t mean that nurses and doctors and medical staff aren’t working very hard, and that sometimes you’re gonna be wanting to try to bring in some extra swing shifts and stuff. That’s not the same thing as the medical — as hospital collapse. Okay. And I will also say that it is clear after 18 months of this that these stories are typically written just at the peak.

BUCK: Right.

ALEX: Okay. So they have been a very reliable sign that cases are gonna start to decline, and look, if cases don’t start… If positive tests and hospitalization rates don’t start to decline in Florida and Texas pretty soon, I would be surprised. Again, this epidemic has made fools out of anybody who’s made predictions for the last 18 months. But I would be surprised, and I would be worried about that here.

Here. Let me give you one data point, okay? You can look by state, see which states have the highest vaccination rates, okay? Outside of the Northeast the three states with the highest vaccination rates are Washington, New Mexico, and Oregon. I would urge everyone listening to this to go type in “Oregon covid” to Google and see what’s happened to covid case rates there in the last two weeks. Okay. They are off the charts. The vaccines, it doesn’t matter whether you’re 50% or 60% or 70%. You are not gonna make a meaningful difference, because the Israelis and the British (chuckles) got to 70%.

BUCK: So, New York City’s gonna get hit hard, for example, because here in New York we think we’re the vaccine superstars but you’re telling me —

ALEX: New York may not get hit as hard because New York has a lot of natural immunity.

BUCK: Ahhh. All right.

ALEX: The reason Oregon’s getting crushed right now is that Washington and Oregon state and Northern California were the places that somehow, they’ve been the covid miracle. They’d avoided getting hit really as hard as anywhere else the United States. Guess what? It’s all gonna revert to the mean. Okay. It’s gonna happen. And, you know, again, I typically be wary of making predictions; but I think the data out of Israel and the U.K. (chuckles) is so powerful right now, not to make predictions off it is a form of cowardice.

CLAY: Alex, what about kids? You may have seen me go talk to Tuesday about masks and kids. Are kids under a massively increased risk from the Delta variant based on the data that you’re seeing?

ALEX: No. No. That’s another lie. Are they at risk of getting it more because it does seem to be somewhat more contagious? Yes. Are they at risk of severe outcomes from it? No. There’s no evidence of that. And really if you go to the smart people on Twitter, they’re pointing out right now that the U.S. is in this hysteria about schools and nowhere else in the world is having that.

Even countries that are having bad surges are well aware that kids are not at high risk or even medium risk or even low risk from getting really sick from covid. I mean, obviously can always happen but if I have one piece of good news for people, Delta is not any more of a threat to your kids than earlier — than the original, wild-type variant, and this was a very, very, very low risk for kids.

CLAY: Alex, man, you need to get on weekly.

BUCK: The Alex Berenson segment!

CLAY: But, yeah. I really, really appreciate it. I really appreciate the time you’re spending with us, man. We’ll unpack everything that Alex said when we come back and continue to discuss all these stories and more.

Vax Passports for Interstate Travel and More Covid Madness

13 Aug 2021

CLAY: We are the most honest place for covid discussion, really probably just discussion in general in the country today. Buck, I’m fired up. I’m ready to roll. I’m ready to roll into the weekend, too, ’cause I’m headed to Florida, which should be a lot of fun even though I know that our boy Ron DeSantis is under fire in every direction. Are you ready to roll here?

BUCK: I’m ready to roll. I just want to know… I asked this question on Twitter; I haven’t gotten any particularly compelling answers yet. “What did Ron DeSantis do to Japan?” Because Tokyo has reported 5,773 covid cases in the last 24 hours. Their daily cases have topped 10,000 for more than a week. Hospitals are filling up, thousands infected, thousands more isolating at home. Thirty-six percent of Japan’s population is fully vaccinated, by the way. So clearly it must be Ron DeSantis’ fault. Whatever happens in Japan or Indonesia or anywhere else for that matter is his fault.

CLAY: They’re not wearing their masking hard enough.

BUCK: They’re not masking hard enough. That is absolutely right. I’ve been saying for a while, if you double mask, what is the reason, what is the rationalization for not wearing goggles and/or triple masking and they just get mad at me. But I just say, “I’m sorry. I believe in the science,” and, by the way, Clay, these mandates that are coming to cities across the country?

I gotta say, months ago when things were looking a little bit better and some of the red state people, like you Nashvillians and Tennesseans, were doing your happy dance of freedom. I had to be that little chirping bird on the shoulder saying, “Hey, I know I’m in New York — I know the commies run this place and you think it’s not your problem — but the commies also run the federal government and they’re not done with us and Fauci has not repudiated.”

CLAY: It’s spreading exponentially. Let’s play this for those of you who have not heard. We talked about the way the show ended yesterday, I thought, pretty staggering news about New Orleans coming out and saying — ’cause you think of New Orleans as kind of being the ultimate in fun destination place. And let’s be honest. Bourbon Street is not a cleanly or very safe place.

Anybody who’s ever been out in New Orleans I’m like, “Hey, I’m gonna go to Mardi Gras. It seems like it’s like gonna be really healthy.” Everybody who goes to Mardi Gras comes back sick now I can’t go to bars or restaurants or potentially New Orleans Saints games unless you’ve been vaccinated. Guess what? London Breed the mayor of San Francisco — of course, you knew it was coming — vaccine passports, vaccine mandates to go to go to restaurants, gyms, everywhere. Here’s what she said to do about why she’s doing it.

BREED: Starting August 20th you will need proof of vaccination in businesses for your customers in high-contact areas like bars, restaurants, clubs, theaters, entertainment venues, indoor gyms and fitness. And large indoor events with more than a thousand people.

BUCK: Clay, this creates the framework for them to get eventually to everyone’s gonna have to be vaccinated or deal with — in their minds, I’m just saying this is the plan. Everyone’s gonna have to submit because otherwise, even if you think you’re going to pick places, you don’t know. You don’t know where you’re going to be, where they’re going to enforce it, where they’re not going to enforce it.

You go out for dinner with the family, they don’t care about your vaccine status let’s say, but then you want to go get ice cream afterwards, “Oh, you need to have your vaccine passport.” This is what we’re actually facing in major cities across the country, and now you got the Biden administration threaten to come over the top. The airlines said they won’t require vaccine passports for everybody to fly domestically.

But guess what? If the Biden administration — just like with the masks — if they say you have to provide proof of vaccination to fly domestically, now you don’t know where you can go, now you can’t fly unless you’re vaxxed and they’re gonna find other ways, as I keep saying, to turn the screws. Man, this is happening. And I know people don’t want to believe it’s happening, but it is happening right now.

CLAY: And we’re leading the resistance, honestly, because there’s very few people out there who even feel comfortable speaking out in an aggressive way. And here is one of many reasons why this is, I think, so dishonest of our government. Fauci is continuing to say that you need to get vaccinated because otherwise the vaccines — now he’s starting to say — may not work. Listen to this. This was Fauci. Play cut 17, please.

FAUCI: That is a real possibility, Lester. We don’t want to frighten the public, but we want to make sure they understand that we have 94 million people in this country who are eligible to be vaccinated who are not vaccinated. If you allow the virus to freely essentially roam through the vulnerable population and infect people, you give it ample opportunity to mutate. Which means a person who’s unvaccinated is not only putting themselves at risk and their family, but really are putting the community at risk!

BUCK: You’re putting everybody at risk, Clay. You’re basically a murderer if you don’t want to get shots on the government’s say so for the rest of your life without actually even having to have an explanation about, “Hey, why doesn’t natural immunity count instead of this? Hey…?”

CLAY: I think that’s the first part of this. It’s so dishonest about Fauci. He said 93 million people are unvaccinated and potential spreaders of covid. We don’t know the exact number because our government has done a poor job of actually considering national immunity.

BUCK: Oh, they don’t want to know. They don’t want to know, Clay, ’cause that would interfere with the messaging.

CLAY: Right. To their credit, England has done a good job of looking at natural immunity and vaccinated immunity and has found that around 92% of the English population has either natural or vaccinated immunity. So, this 93 million number is dishonest. We know there are tens of millions. You’re listening to two of them right now who have already had covid and currently have covid antibodies.

The other thing here that’s so dishonest about that argument that Fauci just made is, the variants are highly unlikely to come from countries like the United States where there are lots of vaccinations. They are likely to come from places like India where there is virtually no vaccination at all and there are way more people that are effectively petri dishes to allow these mutations to occur.

Which is why the southern border matters so much here, Buck, because we’ve got the Biden administration floating the idea that they’re not gonna let you go from, I don’t know, Ohio to Michigan or Florida to Georgia or Arizona to New Mexico and instead… I hope Arizona and New Mexico border each other, by the way. I think they do. But instead —

BUCK: Yeah, they’re letting thousands of people with covid across the border.

CLAY: Yes! They’re letting them all across the border potentially all of sorts of issues with covid variants in countries where they’re coming from where there’s virtually no vaccinations.

BUCK: Yes. And what you said before about the variants coming from elsewhere in the world it has been known for a long time that the flu generally emanates out of that the flu variations that come, come from China, in large part because of the massive number of people, but also the way that human beings in very large numbers interact in very close contact with livestock there. This is how we get avian flu and swine flu —

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: and these things tend to come out of China, but these things can come from anywhere. This isn’t a situation where all the sudden people get very tense about, “Oh, but why do the viruses…?” Doesn’t matter. The point is we have a situation right now unfolding that the critics of Fauci-ism have said is exactly where we would be —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — which is that this is going to get to a place where they’re going to want Covid Zero. They’re not gonna allow for us to get back to normal life even when deaths are down 75 or 80% from the peak, which nationwide right now in the U.S. they are. They’re not gonna let us get back to normal life even when 70% of people over whatever the age is now — over 18 — are vaccinated. They’re not going to let us get back to normal life and they’re gonna demand the perpetuation of the safetyism, Fauci-ite covid state, including now vaccines.

Clay, once they get the apparatus and the system in place for people to have to get booster shots, guess what, everybody! They’re going to say it’s preventative, and this has been my fear all along. You’re gonna have to get your covid booster every season — and while you’re at it why not get the flu shot, too, and whatever else the government’s gonna give you. I gotta say, anyone who’s been making the argument that slippery slopes are real and slippery has just been consistently right here in the face of the Fauci-ite madness.

CLAY: (chuckles) Well, this goes to what now there is finally starting to be a panic, which is the vaccines wear out faster than anybody hoped the vaccines would wear out in terms of their protection. That’s the reality. Now, I’m not saying that if you’re over 65 you shouldn’t go get the vaccine. You should, based on risk profile. But this idea that you are going to get a covid shot and for a decade you were gonna be fined and there were gonna be no issues?

The breakthrough cases are becoming more and more prevalent, and those people who got the vaccines in February and March and April, as we move into fall, which is typically cold and flu season, I don’t feel very good, Buck, about the idea that there are going to be way less cases as the spread continues. Remember Florida.

BUCK: What are you gonna do, by the way, when you have to come hang out with me in New York. We gotta go out and get steaks.

CLAY: Yep.

BUCK: Clay likes to stay in beach fighting shape so he’s more of a filet guy.

CLAY: (chuckling)

BUCK: I like the ribeye. But what are you gonna do when you come to New York?

CLAY: I honestly don’t know. I think it’s going to be like Prohibition.

BUCK: I’m gonna have to sneak you into the restaurant? We’re gonna have to pay them off? I’m going to have to find someplace that likes sports.

CLAY: I think we’re gonna have to say so the show, Buck, “Hey, Clay’s up in town. He’s unvaccinated, unwashed loser. You need to slide into our DMs if you have a restaurant that you’re a big fan of the Clay and Buck show.” We know there’s a lot of people in New York listening. We got some numbers.

BUCK: We’re gonna having burgers out at some Irish pub in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. I know where this is gonna happen.

CLAY: (laughing) We’ll probably go out to Staten Island.

BUCK: In the Bronx, Staten Island.

CLAY: I bet Staten Island wants us.

BUCK: That’s right. Manhattan, my friend, you are gonna be persona non grata without that shot.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: We’re talking about covid madness spreading like a plague. New Orleans. This has just come out here in short order. New Orleans! (chuckling) Think of all the cities out there that embrace, I would say, poor life choices. You never come back from New Orleans —

BUCK: I think that’s being a little harsh to New Orleans.

CLAY: No, I love New Orleans!

BUCK: It’s a great town with amazing food.

CLAY: I love New Orleans. But, it’s like Vegas. Nobody leaves New Orleans or Vegas typically and thinks, “You know, what? I’m way healthier leaving this city than I was when I arrived,” and I love New Orleans. I’ve done the double-header in New Orleans a lot for going to LSU football games. You go into New Orleans; you make the drive to Baton Rouge. New Orleans one of my favorite cities. I love Vegas too, by the way.

BUCK: But they don’t make you drink until you puke and then go to exotic dance clubs afterwards.

CLAY: Do you know who you’re talking to? (laughing)

BUCK: You could just go to city and enjoy good food. I’m just saying.

CLAY: If you offer those options to me, it’s hard for me to say, “No,” Buck. Here’s what New Orleans now requires. Proof of vaccines or a negative covid test in order to enter bars and restaurants, music and event spaces, gyms and fitness centers, stadiums and sports complexes, casinos and racetracks.

Basically, in order to go into almost any business. They’ve left out I guess gas stations and grocery stores. But virtually everywhere else, you either have to have proof that you got a vaccine or a negative covid test — by the way, from the last 72 hours, which means you’re constantly tested. That would mean if you’ve gotta go to multiple covid tests a week.

BUCK: They are barring people from participation in public life in this country. That is what they are doing. They are doing it now in the largest city in America, and now many others. The dominoes are falling. This is actually happening right now. This is actually where we are, and people need to understand. L.A., give it…

I would even say maybe over the course of the show today, Clay, we’ll have an update on L.A., because they’re just figuring out how this is now about the messaging and how they roll things out. People who go to Stanford University right now, grad school students, undergrad? Same thing with Duke University. I just spoke to someone about this. They have to be vaccinated and get a weekly covid test!

CLAY: I know.

BUCK: This is completely insane.

CLAY: I know.

BUCK: And I think it’s important for us all to remind everybody that if these rules that are now being foisted on us, if they made this pitch a year ago, if they said this going into the election people would have said — a lot more people, not all of them. Obviously, there are some lunatic libs with emotional and psychological problems as a result of covid, lots of them. But people would have said, Clay, “The Democrat Party is completely out of its mind right now.”

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: The persuadables would have said, “There’s no way. Come on. You’re gonna get a vaccine that you tell us is 90% effective, you’re gonna mandate the vaccine, and you’re gonna mandate testing weekly for people who have the vaccine?” How much crazier is this gonna get? You look at Australia and realize it could get even crazier. That’s why we have to stop this nonsense.

CLAY: We have to, and also this is super racist, by the way. These cities which have large black populations and Hispanic populations, they are basically saying to their black and Hispanic populations, “You can’t go to a restaurant. You can’t go to a sports bar. You can’t go to a sports venue.” This is madness on an epic level.

BUCK: What are the percentages, Clay, of black New Yorkers where we already have the mandate going into effect next week? As I’ve been telling you all, I have no choice ’cause I gotta go to a wedding.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: This is the world that we live in now, 18-to-44 year old black New Yorkers, 28% of them vaccinated. Twenty-eight percent!

CLAY: So you’re telling 72% right now of black New Yorkers, “You can’t go to a restaurant. You can’t go to a gym.” This is a real deal that nobody’s talking about.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: Let’s get to Kevin in Minneapolis, Minnesota. What’s up, Kevin?

CALLER: Not much, guys. Almost always when something nefarious is going on, all you have to do is follow the money and see who stands to benefit from it. In the last few months, we’ve been hearing in the news how the three pharmaceutical companies’ stocks are going through the roof. I want to know which members of Congress bought the stock, how much they bought, and how much they’ve made.

I want to know how much those scratch-and-sniff Joe and Dr. Jill invested in those pharmaceutical companies. Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi, I want to know. Bill Gates, I want to know how much money you invested, how much stock you bought, how much you’ve made, because there’s no rational reason to be shoving this vaccine so hard.

CLAY: Thanks for the call. Look, I think — and this has been my position for a long time pre-vaccine. I think if you are a senator or you’re a congressman — certainly if you’re the president or anybody of that ilk/magnitude, part of the executive branch at a high level — you should put all of your money in index funds.

The idea of buying individual stocks, I think, just creates the appearance of impropriety in a big way, Buck. So I’ve always been of that opinion, because questions like those are very valid, and they also tie into what has often been a big part of faith in government is not only impropriety, Buck. It’s the appearance of impropriety. So when you’re buying or selling individual stocks as they have the right to do now, I just don’t think that’s a smart move for a political figure.

BUCK: Yeah, there used to be an exception to insider trading for members of Congress.

CLAY: Yeah, right.

BUCK: Which was appalling and then people found it out and then they said they’re gonna get rid of it. There’s a little more accountability but it’s still a bit watered down whereas if you work like in the financial services sector and, you know, you make any mistake, you get fired, you get ruined, and there’s all these restrictions on it.

CLAY: Yeah, no doubt.

BUCK: So Dobbs in New Orleans wants to tell us what is going on in one of one of my and Clay’s favorite cities. What’s up, Dobbs?

CALLER: Hey, guys. Just wanted to quickly chime in. New Orleans Parish is 60% African-American; less than half of that population is vaccinated. Not only are these people not allowed to go into restaurants but they’re really doing damage on try to get people to come back to work.

CLAY: That’s a great point.

CALLER: Restaurants are closed for a lot of days because they can’t get employees back to work. So now stores and restaurants have to continue to shut down? And this is after the fact of so many folks have lost all the money that they were going to make with the canceled jazz fest.

CLAY: Thank you for the call. That’s a great point that I hadn’t even contemplated, Buck, from Dobbs down in New Orleans. In addition to the fact that they have to have people checking the vaccine status and/or negative test status of people who might be coming to a restaurant or bar, for instance, they also theoretically can’t hire people, because so few people have gotten the vaccine as well. So you’re losing out — the small businessperson is — on both sides of the equation there.

BUCK: Absolutely, Clay. This is why this whole process as it plays out across the country… I mean, this is madness. This is gonna have really serious ramifications and implications that I think people in charge… I’d like to almost think that they’re not thug through, but I think they just don’t care. They just want to control. It doesn’t matter to them what the damage is.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: Alex looks at the data, and I remember, ’cause you and I both follow him — you and I have been talking to Alex now for over a year and a half — he was getting ridiculed in June for saying, “Guys, the Israeli data’s concerning. Guys, the Israeli data is concerning.”

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Now the Israeli data is actually looking like something that is almost prophetic in looking at how this is gonna play out in other places. But when he says — he says straight up — they’re lying to you, meaning the media’s lying about this stuff, Clay, there’s a news story right now on Mediaite. Mediaite is covering a CNN story where they have two anchors who were crying and a parent who’s crying because there’s a baby with covid in the hospital, and they’re saying if you want to…

It’s a horrible thing, right? It’s sad, a baby, but there’s a lot of emotional impact meant to come from this, and it’s, “Get vaccinated or babies are gonna be in the hospital.” That’s just not… It’s one in a million. Less than one in a million babies are going to be in the hospital from this.

CLAY: Yeah, and look, what Alex is saying — and this is data-based, right? He’s not some soothsayer. He’s looking at the data, and I tried to ask him directly, “Are we going to be more like England where they saw a massive spike and then they’re back down, or are we gonna be more like Israel?” I think he made a pretty good case that, based on Israeli data, we are trending in a big way towards being like Israel.

I think it’s important for people out there in the Northeast and the Midwest who are saying, “Oh, look at Florida. Look at Texas,” remember, this is the way those cycles have worked because Florida, when it gets super hot, everybody goes indoors, and that’s when covid spreads down there.

When it gets more normal temperature, which is what is going on in the Midwest and the Northeast right now, that is when Florida starts to decline, and these other parts of the country skyrocket. And his point I thought was an interesting one, Buck, on Oregon, which is one of the most vaccinated states in the entire nation, and they are seeing right now a skyrocketing rate of infection.

BUCK: Right as he said — and I’m sure some people at home, a lot of people listen to us driving the car, whatever. So safety first, right? Keep your hands on the wheel. But I did Google Oregon right as he said that. And, yeah, there’s all these news stories about Oregon’s big case spike. Interesting, because you have to look for it.

CLAY: It’s not the lead story on CNN, no.

BUCK: If you just had on was CNN, all you’d see is Texas and Florida. Oregon has a big case load? Hold on a second. Oregon is a very blue state with a high vaccination rate. Isn’t that interesting, Clay? So we got that. Look, I think it’s… I know they’re gonna Alex Berenson on the left — and not even the left, just the sort of consensus media, the Democrat left is gonna say that he’s a quack or whatever.

Even though, how many times has he been right already! He’s not right all the time, but I think he’s batting about from his predictions that I’ve seen 80%, maybe 90%. (chuckling) He’s been pretty solid, and I gotta tell you, man, when he says they’re lying about this only being a pandemic of the unvaccinated, he’s not saying that it means there’s a disparity —

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: — but that there isn’t a substantial piece of the current wave that are fully vaccinated individuals. The word “bombshell” is being overused lately, but it’s true.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: That is a bombshell.

CLAY: We are being told by our government that if everybody was vaccinated, covid would go away. You agree with that as the primary sales pitch right now from our government is if everyone would be vaccinated, it would go away?

BUCK: If everybody would give up their vaccine hesitancy, Covid Zero is the belief that we are to have from the media, and it’s clearly not true.

CLAY: It’s a hundred percent false, and if we go down the pathway of Israel, what people are going to have to acknowledge is that, once more, all of the quote-unquote “experts” lied to us and sold us a false bill of goods, and it’s just going to create more anger and antipathy out there against all of these people who are trying to tell you what to do. Covid’s not going away no matter what we do.

BUCK: Let me give just a theory and then we got get into the latest on Afghanistan, because it’s rare that you’re gonna be doing a radio show, Clay, and in real time a country is actually falling apart that the U.S. has been propping up for 20 years ago, and that is happening right in front of our eyes. So we’ll get to that because it’s almost like watching a stock ticker of a collapse, of a stock market crash.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That’s what the news updates on Afghanistan look like right now. And I’m getting tweets and text messages and people I know from government side, people I know from media who cover Afghanistan. Anyway, one more thing, though. I just want to put this out this as a thought, Clay, and I’m not making a prediction. I’m just putting out an idea.

We know the Great Barrington Declaration, which came out roughly — what was it now — a year and a couple of months ago, maybe, or roughly a year ago? The Great Barrington Declaration, a thousands of scientists signed it said we should have a focused protection regime of isolate and protect to the greatest degree possible those at risk. Everybody else — everybody else — basically is in a let it rip quarantine when you’re sick and just deal with life phase.

CLAY: Which is what we normally do in America.

BUCK: That’s how we handle flu. That’s how we handle other things.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: If Alex’s Israeli data thesis here is correct and mass vaccine… It’s not that they don’t work; it’s that they don’t work forever, which is clearly the case when Fauci’s saying we’re all gonna need boosters at some point, okay?

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: But if he’s right that they fade much faster than anybody anticipated, what we’re gonna eventually realize is that the only true way through this — meaning it really is not the public health crisis — is through mass, naturally acquired herd immunity.

CLAY: Everybody has to get it.

BUCK: Basically, everybody is going to get this thing.

As of Wednesday, Israel had 451 seriously ill Covid patients in its hospitals.

276 are vaccinated: 266 fully, 10 partly.

A year ago today, before vaccines existed, it had a TOTAL of 368 seriously ill hospitalized patients.

If this is vaccine success, I’d hate to see failure.

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) August 13, 2021

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: They will never accept that. They will never agree that this is the end-state conclusion because of what they’ve put everybody through, but it does seem like that’s a possibility now, doesn’t it?

CLAY: It seems like that’s the only way for normalcy to truly occur is everybody’s gonna have to get covid, basically. Or else you’re gonna have to get eight boosters a year forever.

BUCK: Let me just say, the other possibility, though, and this is actually what I was getting at, is that if you get 70% to 80% of the U.S. population has had it, then the reservoir for the bouncing around becomes smaller, and then you get to relative herd immunity, at least. That’s why maybe you could say the delay for the seniors that have gotten the vaccine…

There are some ways that there will be nuance in this. But, yeah, basically naturally acquired immunity may be the thing that is durable and the only way that we actually get out of this. And we’re gonna find it out the hard way, largely because I think we’ve rejected a hundred years of actual human experience with viruses —

CLAY: (chuckling)

BUCK: — to get us to this point, which anybody who disagrees with go read, as I have, some of the histories done about the Spanish influenza pandemic and we had some of the same arguments and the same societies for the masking of all humanity and these people were nuts.

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CLAY: We’re trying not to be the bearers of all bad news. But, man, that Alex Berenson data analysis, if America is following down the path of Israel, is going to be cataclysmic in this country, Buck.

BUCK: Well, cataclysmic for the narrative, right?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: ‘Cause the upside of this that you and I have just been talking about is, as weird as it is to say, we’re gonna get to a point where basically everybody’s immune system has been in contact with this thing one way or another, right?

CLAY: Natural immunity is going to become the new focus. If Alex Berenson numbers are right, then getting the vaccination is not going to be really the pathway out of this covid madness. It’s going to be everybody getting natural immunity and being exposed to this virus.

BUCK: All makes sense when you start to add it up. Let’s get to some of the folks out there across the country. We got Chris this Clinton, Kentucky. Chris, welcome.

CALLER: Thanks for taking my call. We have drawn the line in the sand in Hickman County, Kentucky. We’ve had a very tyrannical governor that keeps issuing mandates that he has had the power stripped away from, and he’s had an injunction put on. He’s got the Kentucky board of education doing his dirty work for him, mandating masks in schools.

And we’ve drawn the line, and students and teachers have walked out of the school today because the staff or the officials told them to. They were told that they were gonna have to leave if they would not wear the mask. And my wife is a kindergarten teacher. She did, as well as my children, and there are other —

CLAY: So for people who don’t know — thanks for the call, Chris. The governor of Kentucky, Buck, has mandated that everybody has to wear a mask.

BUCK: In a very red state.

CLAY: It’s a very red state. Beshear sort of lucked his way into that gubernatorial position. And what’s unfortunate is we’ve had Rand Paul on this show a lot. And Rand Paul has been one of the best and most outspoken and honest covid analysts anywhere in government. And instead of being able to listen to him, I think what Chris is hinting at is the mask battles, as we saw here in Tennessee, have become real.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: And that is a massive, massive deal.

BUCK: Let’s get Bruce in Orlando, Florida, in the mix here. Bruce, what do you got for us?

CALLER: I just turned retirement age. I’m conservative. I’m not a neocon. You know, I travel the state for my job right now and I listen to conservative radio all day long. But there’s no clarity from anybody anywhere. Thank God we got a good governor, Governor Ron, in Florida. There’s no clarity on what path to take.

CLAY: How old are you, Bruce? How old are you?

CALLER: I’m 62 and a half.

CLAY: How’s your weight?

CALLER: I’m a skinny guy, former athlete. I’m six foot; 180.

CLAY: All right. So what you’re hinting at — and I appreciate the call — is there’s a lot of conflicting advice out there. What I would say to you, Bruce, is here 62 and a half. I would say for people who are in that 60-and-up range as we have been saying for a while, Buck, that the vaccine is a good choice, right? The data would reflect that the people who are in the biggest risk are 65 or older. You’re close to it, Bruce. If you haven’t gotten the vaccine, I think it makes sense personally. That’s what I told my parents.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: You should talk to your doctors. But for us… Buck and I are not doctors, but from our perspective, I would give all our listeners the same advice that I would give my parents, and that was, if you’re over 65, take the vaccine.

BUCK: Yep.

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BUCK: My theory about Biden, Clay, is that nothing should be surprising to any of us because when you elect a second tier politician with a third tier intellectual who’s never been impressive one moment in his very long public life, you’re going to get an administration that looks like what we’re seeing right now. But he’s got a little bone to pick with you, Mr. Travis, or at least with some of the folks who have been making noise in Tennessee about mask mandates. Here he is.

BIDEN: I saw a video and reports from a Tennessee, uhhh, protesters threatening doctors and nurses who are before a school board making the case that to keep kids safe, there should be mandatory masks. And as they walked out these doctors are threatened, these nurses were threatened. You know, our health care workers are heroes. They were the heroes when there was no vaccine.

Many of them gave their lives trying to save others, and they’re heroes again with the vaccine. They’re doing their best to care for the people refusing to get vaccinated. To the mayors, school superintendents, educators, local leaders who are standing up to the governors politicizing mask protection for our kids, thank you. Thank God that we have heroes like you — and I stand with you all, and America should as well.

BUCK: Pardon me while I clean up the vomit off my shoes, but go ahead, Clay.

CLAY: Masks don’t work, Mr. President! There’s no evidence that they work at all, and I’m fired up because I went Tuesday night to make that argument in front of my local school board, and there were over a thousand parents there and kids arguing against masks. You know what happened, Buck? This is what happens all too often.

There were two or three people — which we played the audio on this show — just yelling that they disagreed as the people who had counterveiled the overwhelming majority of people in my school district’s opinion and voted masks for kids that were telling those people that they didn’t support that choice in no uncertain terms. It wasn’t like it was violent. It wasn’t like there was danger.

It wasn’t anything like that at all. They took that clip of about 20 seconds and tried to turn it into a representative sample of what happened on Tuesday with over a thousand people there. This is so unfortunate, because it’s what happens all the time, and they’re trying to demonize people who don’t believe in masks and look at the data as if we are awful human beings, and we aren’t. We’re actually, I believe, the majority of sane people in America right now.

BUCK: Yes, but unfortunately, we’re not calling the shots in a lot of these cities. I worry that we’re gonna come back on Monday, Clay, and there will be even more places with vaccine passport mandates in place, even more localities that decide to go with this.

Kabul Falls: Biden’s Afghanistan Blunder Is a Cluster (Bomb)

13 Aug 2021

BUCK: I come bearing more bad news out of Afghanistan. It is falling so rapidly that even people who were expecting all along the Taliban would once again seize power in this country are staring with their eyes wide open, their jaws hitting the ground as they see how quickly the Afghan National Security Forces are folding.

Now we’re at the point where the Biden administration is having to do PR stunts trying to figure out a way to convince people that this isn’t the fall of Saigon all over again or this isn’t a very rapid evacuation. Here’s what’s gone on in terms of cities that have been lost. Well, actually, it’s much easier to tell you what cities in Afghanistan have not been lost yet.

As of now, the central government still controls the capital of Kabul, Jalalabad, and Mazar-i-Sharif. That is, in terms of major cities in the entire nation of Afghanistan, pretty much the sum total of it. Lashkar Gah, the capital of Helmand Province which U.S. and British troops fought fiercely to keep out of Taliban hands for years? Gone. Firmly in Taliban hands. Kandahar the heart city, if you will.

The central city for the Taliban stretching back for a long time that we took back and kept out of their hands for 20 years, gone. Ghazni, Saripul, Kunduz, Taliqan, Herat all fall to the Taliban in a matter of weeks. This is an army that we trained! This is a military that worked alongside our own not for a few months or even a few years, for decades.

Tens of billions of dollars of military equipment just given to the Afghan National Security Forces, and now elders all over the country in villages that have not yet been taken are looking to negotiate if they’re on the edge of the Taliban blitzkrieg that has now turned into a rout. It was quite an offensive and now it is a massive retreat for the other side.

That’s what we’re seeing happen. If this were happening under Trump’s time in office, I can assure you it would be blasted as the primary headline, the major story across CNN and New York Times, and it would be firmly on Trump’s doorstep. It would be his fault, they would say. But with Biden we get something else going on here. Here is State Department spokesperson Ned Price — now, he works for the administration I know; we’ll get into the press part of it in a second — trying to tell you Baghdad Bob style, “Don’t believe your lying eyes.”

PRICE: (haltingly) This is not abandonment! This is not an evacuation! Uh, this is not the wholesale withdrawal. What this is, uh, is a reduction in the size of our civilian f-footprint. This is a drawdown of civilian, uhhh, Americans.

BUCK: (impression) “They are evacuating the embassy, Clay.” They’re just doing it in phases.

CLAY: Buck, 3,000 soldiers to help preserve the safety of the remaining American citizens that we still have in Afghanistan because they don’t want to have another Benghazi occur. When you’re in a rough spot — when you’re trying to pull all of your forces out but in order to pull all of your forces out you have to send more forces in to allow that to occur — this is starting to look like Saigon.

I feel as if we’re gonna see helicopters taking off with people at the last minute as the Taliban takes over probably our own embassy. We’ve spent — and this is just regardless of your background and whether you paid a lot of attention Afghanistan. We have spent a trillion dollars, and the entire country is going to be as if we were never there before we even initially leave the country. For people out there who are wondering, this is far in excess worse of a collapse of the Afghan government than even the worst forecast could have ever predicted.

BUCK: Clay, when I was in Afghanistan a decade ago and I was living there for months on end, every person that I knew who understood that country… All the people that had a good, top-level view, if you had asked them — especially the talk to a noncommissioned officer who’s on his fifth tour in Afghanistan. Now some of them are on their 10th tour, their 12th tour, and more than that even for some guys.

You ask any NCO, “What’s gonna happen in this country the moment we go?” You know what they would have said? “It’s just a question when the Taliban takes over.” This is what I heard across the board a decade ago. So I bring this up because look at the military the military-industrial complex and what has happened in this country and the narrative around Afghanistan for years and years now.

Not only is this one of the biggest intelligence failures since 9/11, I think you could argue since 9/11 the biggest intelligence failure that we’ve seen. Although ISIS’s rise in Iraq was also pretty catastrophic and surprised the Obama administration. How is it possible that this wasn’t known in advance as the reality and, therefore, preparations were taken against it from our massive footprint in the country stretching back for years.

All the surveillance, all the intelligence assets, the military, the diplomatic assets? I would argue it is because the people at the very top, Clay, not the NCOs that are actually doing the war fighting day to day as well as the officers and the enlisted. The people that were trying to get on CNN when they came back and be contributors (I’m just being honest with you), they always came with the same story. “We figured it out this time! We’re making progress! We figured it out. We’re making progress.” That just wasn’t true.

CLAY: How about all the generals that have been testifying about critical race theory and their reading lists inside of the military? Maybe they could have focused a little bit nor on Afghanistan intelligence instead of worrying about what they were telling the enlisted to be reading?

This is, I think, an abject failure, and we talked about this a couple days ago, I think. The only way — and again, hindsight is often 20/20. But the only way we really could have left Afghanistan and declared a victory for purposes of the narrative was right after we got Osama Bin Laden, right? Otherwise, what’s your choice?

BUCK: You’re propping up a shaky, at best, government that was essentially installed with U.S. and international mentorship, but that’s what you’re nation building.

CLAY: And you’re gonna have to leave troops in Afghanistan forever to prevent this from happening. So what have we actually accomplished in Afghanistan, after spending a trillion dollars and 20 years not to mention the lost lives?

BUCK: Can I give you the neo-con answer, by the way, just so we don’t leave it out? Because there are people that are making this case. I obviously think it’s wrong.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: But the neocon answer to your question, “What did we accomplish?” is they’ll say, “We denied a safe haven to Al-Qaeda.” I think the response that one should have to that is Al-Qaeda has been operating with relative safe havens in Yemen, in Nigeria, in…

Well, depending on we’re talking about ISIS or Al-Qaeda specifically, but in Somalia, in the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt. There are all these different places. I mean, plotting a mass-casualty terrorist attack against the U.S. does not actually necessitate —

CLAY: That you do it in Afghanistan.

BUCK: — operating open-air training camps with thousands and thousands of jihadis going through them. It’s just some guys with a really diabolical and evil plan and Al-Qaeda funding them and telling them to go for. So I don’t think that the answer, Clay, to your question is compelling. I think we should address it. That’s what they’ll say, “We didn’t have another 9/11.” We did have a lot of terrorist attacks, however. That’s often left out of this.

CLAY: Also, by the way, the answer could be we might have another 9/11 now because we’re giving back over Afghanistan, in theory, to the terrorist elements that allowed 9/11 to occur the last time.

BUCK: I don’t know if you saw Jen Psaki, though, really slapped down the Taliban by telling them that they need to think long and hard about what kind of role they want to play in the international community?

CLAY: Yeah, I saw. NATO is gonna be really upset at the Taliban.

BUCK: Jen Psaki gonna take all the cupcakes away from the Taliban unless they play nice with everybody. But, Clay, again, if this were not Biden who — as you say, Weekend at Bernie’s style — is so propped up by the media and the Democrat apparatus around him; if we were living in a world where people who worked in the information dissemination field really cared about honesty and integrity, they would say, “This is a catastrophe.

“It is being handled horribly, and it is happening on Biden’s watch at his direction as commander-in-chief, and he should pay a political price for this. People should understand our disastrous border, our disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, our disastrous murder rates in major U.S. cities from defund the police.” This comes from the regime in charge. This is all happening because of the Democrats that are calling the shots. We gotta remind everybody.

CLAY: And he’s also not solving covid at all. In fact, things are getting worse.

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BUCK: David in Massachusetts, what do you got?

CALLER: I just want to say, what’s gonna happen in Afghanistan is gonna be the same exact thing as (garbled cell) the Iraq pullout. It’s gonna be Biden’s ISIS rise, whoever it is, Al-Qaeda, this, that, the other, Taliban. They all knew that this was gonna happen. Everybody in the military, every politician, everybody knew that this was gonna happen, and what the Taliban is doing (garbled) and what they’re going to do is just gonna make (cell drop).

BUCK: I appreciate it. You’re cutting off a little bit there. But, Clay, on this point, this is the part of it that for everyone who’s saying it’s — and look, Trump wanted to pull out. Republicans that I know feel like we’ve been there long enough. A lot of people in the conservative base feel like we’ve been there long enough. So it’s not just… Now, managing the withdrawal and making it just a complete and utter… I can’t even say what on the air.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: But think of the words for a complete debacle, that’s something that the Obama… Sorry, the Biden administration (Obama’s third term, basically), that’s on them. But if they come back in and they create a terrorist safe haven there, we’re gonna have some really tough choices in the years ahead. Is it going to happen? (big sigh) No one really knows right now, Clay, but the way things —

CLAY: It’s certainly more likely now than what was year, and it’s gonna be more likely next year than it is now.

BUCK: Yes. If you were a global jihadi in the last few years, remember how Trump destroyed the whole ISIS caliphate in Raqqah, rolled into Syria?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: He sent our troops in, unleashed our incredible military to go after them in a way that finally went for the jugular of ISIS. Jihad’s been quiet for a while, friends, but the global jihad may have quite a rallying cry into the collapsed vacuum hellhole that is Afghanistan.

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BUCK: Clay, we’ve gotta also just update everybody on this, and we’ve got the border issue to come up to as well. They’re saying, “Afghanistan right now on verge of complete Taliban takeover.” That is the news ticker on CNN. And on Fox News they had a headline up there:

“I just saw on Fox a Defense official tell Fox that Kabul could fall as soon as tomorrow, which seems unbelievable, but people are saying some pretty outlandish stuff right now.” –@BuckSexton https://t.co/17RCHeH3TC

— clayandbuck (@clayandbuck) August 13, 2021

“DOD source: Kabul, the capital of Afghanistan, could fall tomorrow.” Clay, it feels like a few platoons of U.S. troops in this massive country would do a better job of defending it from Taliban takeover than the 300,000-on-paper strong Afghan National Army? You’ve got to be… This is crazy.

CLAY: It feels like the fix was in and there was already an agreement. Maybe it’s not the case, but for that much of the Afghan government to fall this fast, it feels like behind the scenes they had basically already agreed with the Taliban that as soon as the United States pulled out, that they were not gonna have control of the country anymore.

BUCK: That’s where the intelligence failure component of this comes in that this was not… Look, does anyone really think the Biden administration would have committed to this course if they thought that they wouldn’t even last ’til Labor Day? No way, right? They clearly didn’t see this coming. They clearly didn’t make the provisions necessary with knowledge of what they were up against. Massive intelligence failure.

CLAY: My mind is blown here, Buck. If you start thinking about what’s going on with the murder rate, if you think about what’s going on with the border, you think about what’s going on with covid, you think about what’s going on with Afghanistan. This is right now, the first six months of the Biden administration, the worst presidency almost of any of our lives.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: What have they managed? And that doesn’t even take into account inflation or all the ridiculous money that they are spending. Everything that Biden is touching is turning to the opposite of gold, which would be a word that we probably can’t use on this radio program.

BUCK: I gotta say, it’s like an extension of the old Office Space question, “What would you say ya do here?”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: In this case it’s, “What would you say you do here that isn’t terrible?” That’s what the Biden administration should be asked. What would you say you do that isn’t awful when it comes to decision-making?

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BUCK: So, Clay, we do have right now a briefing at the Pentagon. We wanted to JIP it. Can we join this in progress, guys, live? Here’s John Kirby, Pentagon press secretary.

BUCK: All right. So we just wanted to give you what the Pentagon is saying here. They’re really just focusing in on the force protection, Clay, of what they’re not saying is an evacuation. But I can tell you, having worked in places where we had to think about evacuation plans and had to prepare for it, this is the “Everybody get to the lifeboats but don’t panic” moment of the Pentagon.

That’s what we’re seeing right now unfold, and I appreciate that we have Americans in harm’s way. We want all of our people back safe and sound, first and foremost, the most important thing. So I appreciate Kirby’s tone and poise here. That’s what you would want. But let’s not make any mistake about this, Clay. They’re saying Kabul could fall tomorrow. It’s like there was no Afghan army to fight against the Taliban.

CLAY: And it’s like we were never there. That’s what’s wild. You are seeing all this American military apparatus, billions of dollars effectively now in Taliban hands, and the question that is going to be asked I think for years to come is, how much danger are we creating by effectively allowing the Taliban to take back control of Afghanistan?

By the way, we want our American soldiers and all our American employees in the embassy to get out safely. We don’t want another Benghazi. But remember all the talk, Buck, about how we were lifting up all the women of Afghanistan and how we were gonna give them opportunities to get educations and go to school, and we were gonna nation build and we were creating a new dynamic in that country?

All of those people are now back under the thumb of the Taliban, which, when you look at the disconnect between the egalitarian world that the Democratic Party claims to favor and what is now going to be the case in Afghanistan, it’s just another failure and hypocrisy for Joe Biden. And, really, I wonder. At some point are people going to start to point to all of the failures of this Biden administration? I think it’s gonna be hard to avoid.

Thanks for the Loyalty, Limbaugh Listeners!

13 Aug 2021

BUCK: Liz in Columbus, Ohio. We’ve gotta hear this one. Liz! What do you got?

CALLER: Buck and Clay, I called to congratulate you on your unbelievable ratings that you’ve got. I’m reading this article — I don’t know; it just popped up — and it says, “We couldn’t be more proud of Clay and Buck. Rush Limbaugh left very big shoes to fill. But their effort to honor his legacy, while creating a new program that entertains and informs people across the country, is clearly paying off and resonating with listeners. We’re excited to see what the future holds for this talented duo.” I called because I wanted to congratulate you on your excellent ratings.

BUCK: Thank you.

CLAY: Well, Liz is killing it for us there. They put out a press release. I tweeted it out. We appreciate all the positive words. But we appreciate, really, the loyalty that Rush’s audience has paid to us as we have tried to continue to fight the battles that he has fought for so long. And we got some incredible numbers all over the country.

BUCK: Nielsen ratings!

CLAY: You guys are responding very favorably to what we are doing, and we are immensely grateful to you guys.

BUCK: Yes, thank you all.

CLAY: We have a lot of good days, weeks, and months to come. But the start has been about as good as we could have hoped for.

Take a Look at Buck’s Brother’s Dog Percy

13 Aug 2021

It’s Percy!

Percy the Pomeranian is Buck’s brother’s dog, a rescue pooch adopted from an animal shelter. Percy had been found matted and miserable, wandering a back alley in Austin, Texas (despite it being a liberal city and Percy presumably a conservative dog). But thanks to TLC and the right family, just look at Percy now!

EIB 24/7 OT: What Can I Do to Help Push Back?

13 Aug 2021

As the ship of state veers off course with Biden’s unsteady hand on the wheel, listeners ask, “What can we do to carry on Rush’s legacy and push back against this tide of cultural rot?” We have answered this question many times in many ways over the years, and now Clay offers his advice on how our Excellence in Broadcasting Network family can support grassroots change in the country we love.

And only EIB 24/7 members can access this exclusive analysis.

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Rush: Beto Campaigns Where the Democrat Base Is — in Mexico!

13 Aug 2021

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