USA 2021: Olympic Battle Over Masks

23 Jul 2021

CLAY: The Olympics are underway, and we are about to have an Olympic-level fight in the United States over masks and whether or not kids should be wearing them. We played you some of the cuts and discussion yesterday where Joe Biden basically said, “Hey, the CDC is going to say that kids in schools need to be wearing masks.” I got an email yesterday, Buck Sexton.

My two youngest kids are going to be in a school district that is not requiring masks. Now, kids can wear masks if they want to — or, more accurately, if their parents want them to. They were open, our school district was, public school, all last year. And now Ron DeSantis has come out in the oasis of freedom that is Florida, Buck Sexton, and he said this about masks in Florida schools.

DESANTIS: We need our kids to be able to be kids. We need them to be able to breathe. It’s terribly uncomfortable for them to do it. There’s not very much science behind it.

CLAY: That is Ron DeSantis explaining that they’re not gonna be wearing masks — and, Buck Sexton, I think that makes some sense. I would imagine the vast majority of our audience is in favor of it. But Jen Psaki, the Psaki Bomb, is not so much in favor of it, Buck Sexton. Let’s listen to Jen Psaki, a couple of different cuts here, as she responds to the news that Florida kids are not gonna be required to wear masks.

PSAKI: I’ve seen the reporting, uh, but what I can tell you is that there has been no decision to, uh, change our mask guidelines. If, uh… Any decisions about public health would be driven by CDC. But of course we are engaged with public health experts and the CDC about how to continue to attack the virus. And we’ve never said that battle is over. It’s still oncoming. It would be more concerning — or should be more concerning — to all of and you the American people if we were not having those conversations. So there’s certainly conversations, uh, about steps we can and should take.

BUCK: So, Clay, I tell you, authoritarian busybodies are not done with us.

CLAY: Oh, of course not.

BUCK: That’s what we know, and I’ve been trying to warn everybody for a while here that they would have to relent with the vaccine campaign on masks a bit because it became obvious that there was a huge messaging mismatch of, “Get the vaccine, it’s so effective, it works so well, but then you still…”

Remember in the beginning it was you still have to wear a mask and then people realize, well, that doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense. It doesn’t structure the incentives properly. What we’re seeing now is that you know there’s the old joke about a Puritan is someone who lives in the constant fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time?

CLAY: Yes. (chuckles)

BUCK: The mask maniacs live in the constant fear that someone, somewhere, is breathing free, fresh air — or their children or doing so — without this constriction on their face. And people I think who are listening in places where this hasn’t been as much of an issue… I mean, I was right in the thick of it here in New York City.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: You never had it this bad. I mean, Nashville is a little liberal, it wasn’t as bad.

CLAY: But we’re right outside of Nashville and Buck, what we discovered early on where I live is where the county line was, covid knew when it hit the county line, and so it would stop. As you were driving down road and you passed that county line, covid would say, “Oh, this is the city of Nashville now. We’re gonna change the way that we spread,” and so people had to wear masks there, but as soon as you crossed the county line, you’re fine.

BUCK: And so now what you’re seeing are Democrats looking for opportunities to either encourage not mandates, but suggestions at the city level, different Democrat-controlled cities. But also, there are rumors going around that they may try something even more aggressive to get a federal mandate. Now, the White House says no, but this White House has lied about lots of stuff when it comes to covid.

CLAY: And to be fair, Joe Biden might not know what’s going on in his own White House.

BUCK: That’s always fair.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: There’s at no point at which that’s not a thing that we could say.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: But you could think about this, if you want to go a little creative. Okay, let’s say you’re listening right now; you live in Nebraska or you live in Texas or Florida a place that has a lot of freedom.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And you say, “Well, it’s a New York, California, New Jersey problem that Buck and Clay are talking about.” Well, we’re looking at schools, kids, masks right now. What if the federal government says, “We’re gonna tie federal funding to mask policies in schools”? They haven’t done this, but does anyone really think that’s beyond them? Does anyone think that this Biden administration would say (impression), “It’s a sensible thing to do. No joke!” Yeah. I mean, if there’s a federal mandate of some kind, then I do think that the Lululemon brigades will be out in full force.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I think that’s very possible. If that doesn’t happen, though, it will be state by state. Look, we already see this.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: You’re in L.A. right now as we’re doing the show, and in Los Angeles I know that there are people who are not only masking, they’re enthusiastically masking up. I heard from friends of mine that now on dating sites, they’ll have vaccinated/unvaccinated. This has become a cultural signifier in the blue strongholds, something that’s out there right now. In those places, they’ll get away with the mask mandates for kids, at least, because they’ve got a huge —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — whether it’s in New York, an 8-1 — advantage of in registration. But if they try at the federal level than, yeah, I think we’ve got a big pushback coming.

CLAY: I also think, Buck — and I’ll use an example my thought process last year. I was so excited that my kids were going to be present physically in in-person school last year that I was saying, “Okay. I’m not gonna fight a massive battle over masks.” I think there are a lot of people out there whose kids have not been physically present for much of the past year and change that are gonna say, “Whatever.”

If our kids have to wear masks in order to be back in person, I’ll do that. I think the places that were already open are going to be particularly aggressively fighting the idea of mask mandates for kids in school because we already did it last year. We know — and here’s the thing, Buck. We know that it is completely nonsensical and without any scientific basis. It’s all cosmetic theater, right?

Kids are not primary vectors of spreading this disease, thankfully. And the idea that they’re stopping the virus from being spread by wearing masks, as you and I know, is just laughably absurd. I mean, the kids are taking their masks off to eat. They’re taking their masks off to drink. They are kids who are… Let’s be honest, anybody who spends time around young kids: They are petri dishes. They aren’t exactly known for their cleanliness. So this entire mask obsession, I think is going to turn into a massive battle.

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: And God… If they really make the choice to put a federal mandate on mask wearing, I think you’re gonna see a ton of lawsuits. I think you’re gonna see legitimate protests and riots in many parts of the country.

BUCK: I certainly hope so.

CLAY: And by “riots,” I mean —

BUCK: Yes. Yes.

CLAY: — mom riots, not like real BLM riots.

BUCK: Yeah, I hope so, because last night I went to a classical music concert at a church here in New York City, and they were enforcing the mask mandate. You walked in there, they say, “Vaccinated or not. We don’t care. You must wear a mask here.”

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: It was a beautiful concert; it was nice music and all that. But I’m just sitting here thinking, how could any…? I want to sit down with the person who thinks this is intelligent.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I honestly want to, because it’s always, “Oh, don’t yell at the people enforcing it! It’s not their fault.” Okay, who’s fault is it? It’s not the city of New York.

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: It’s not the state of New York. Who’s actually doing it? And we’re gonna have to get to the point here where I think, “I demand to see the manager,” is gonna be a thing that people across the country in places that do this is what we ask is we say, “Look, I want to know. I want to speak to the person,” ’cause everyone in there, Clay, was going to dinner afterwards. It was just kind of an early concert.

Everyone’s gonna… They’re all gonna sit there, no masks on. Covid gonna be there or not gonna be there. They’re gonna be immune; they’re not gonna be immune. It makes no difference whatsoever. But this has become a mask anxiety disorder. People have suffered a psychological break — millions and millions of them — from listening to the lab coat tyrant Fauci night after night, from believing the Biden administration rhetoric, not just when they were in my office. Remember in the prior…? I mean, I haven’t forgotten back in the general election Biden telling people, and Harris saying, “I don’t know if you can trust that Trump vaccine.”

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Oh, we’re all supposed to forget that now.

CLAY: Not only that. I think it just goes to if the CDC walks back their guidelines, Buck, already people don’t trust the CDC ’cause they’ve taken every angle of every different perspective on covid. But what they tried to dangle out there — let’s be honest — was the carrot. “If you’re vaccinated, then you don’t have to wear masks,” and as we all know the difference of being able to tell if somebody’s vaccinated or not is virtually impossible. So masks disappeared basically within a couple of weeks every all over the country, and I think people breathed a sigh of relief. If they try and bring them back, I think to the extent that there is any legitimacy left in the CDC, I think it goes out the window.

BUCK: Let’s never make the mistake, though, that lockdowners have principles or integrity when it comes to any of this.

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The Cleveland Guardians of Wokeness

23 Jul 2021

BUCK: Clay, the Cleveland Indians are no more. Now they are the Cleveland Guardians, which I don’t even know — I know what a Guardian is, what it means, but how you supposed to get excited — I guess it doesn’t matter. They’re just gonna rebrand it. But this one to me seems a little silly. There were some mascots that I thought should change the names, I’ll be honest with you. Very few, but a couple that were a little, “I don’t know about that…”

CLAY: What’s funny to me is, they just decided, hey, we’re gonna change the name because Indians, they just kept the d-i-a-n-s, right, and added Guard, you know, in front of it so that it still kind of sounds the same. Cleveland Indians, Cleveland Guardians. It’s just a really weird move. And, by the way, you want to Amherst, which, by the way, big nerd there. But they have changed their mascot, right?

BUCK: Oh, yeah. We went from the Lord Jeffery Amherst, our mascot at games was a guy who was dressed like one of the bad guys from the movie The Patriot, the British, he’s got twig on, the britches and everything and he would dance around and, you know, the whole thing. There’s this story — I think it’s apocryphal — but there’s a story that Lord Jeff Amherst, you know, it was tough, he had a lot of things going on, and he gave blankets to a native tribe — and they think that the blankets — it’s a story — they didn’t understand microbiology, but they were quote “smallpox blankets” end quote and so this was considered the first usage of bioweapons. This is actually what the activists said. Bioweapons on U.S. soil. So now we’re the Mammoths, another large, furry elephant.

CLAY: Like the woolly mammoth?

BUCK: Yep.

CLAY: Okay. I actually think that’s a better mascot. So the Indians have changed their name.

I went to, for college, The George Washington Colonials, and of course we were called the Colonials because it was the Colonial army. And kids on our campus now are obsessed with changing Colonials because they think it’s connected to colonizing. And it’s like you have to talk to these people. No, no, no, we were the colonies, and we fought for our independence. That’s what the Colonial army was doing. But they are so indoctrinated with the idea that colonizing is a bad thing, that they want to change the name of the mascot George Washington Colonials.

Now, the thing about this is, I’m kind of with you. If you could put me and you and whoever else, like, we could sit across the table from the wokes and say, “Okay, let’s just end the mascot controversy once and for all. You give us a list of names. We’ll negotiate. We’ll agree to change X-number of names, and then we’ll be done with this forever. ” But that’s not how this works because in order to be woke, you always have to find something new that’s offensive. It doesn’t end. It never ends.

BUCK: People pose this to me, they say, what do you really think of the Redskins football team name? You know, I mean, this is — you know, there are — there are limits, right? But then I say okay, “What about the Vikings?” They say, “What do you mean? There’s nothing offensive about the Vikings?” Then I get to sit there and explain how the Vikings were the great sea wolves of history with their rape and pillage and slavery? ‘Cause that’s what the Vikings actually did. People think of them like, oh, you know, they’re just kind of just going around on the longboats and they’ve got these cool Swords.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: It was a whole culture, basically, built on enslaving people, pillaging, looting.

CLAY: Not only that, you know, one that gets talked about now is the Fighting Irish, right? Notre Dame is the Fighting Irish. And people are like, oh, that’s offensive.

BUCK: And speaking from the Irish-American community, speaking as a member of it, we are a sturdy and fearsome lot who find life to be funny in many ways and can take a joke as well as a shot of what him you put in front of us. The Irish Irish I will say, on the other hand, a bunch of commies. It’s unfortunate, but it’s true. The actual Irish are super left-wing and very woke.

CLAY: Well, and that’s why some people say that Fighting Irish is going to one day give up the ghost. You have the Atlanta Braves, Chicago Blackhawks, Florida State Seminoles, the Kansas City Chiefs, they just move on, right? Redskins is gone; now Indians is gone. Who’s next on the chopping block?

BUCK: The proper name of a tribe —

CLAY: Florida State is an example of that.

BUCK: We’ve had tribes that come forward and say when you’re calling, like, one of the most fearsome pieces of rotary aircraft, with the Apache, when you’re calling it that to honor our prowess as warriors, you’re not degrading us or mocking us, that’s cool. Now, the Apache one, by the way, that’s actually not a specific example, but I’m using it as there. Thee have been other times where there have been tribes who have come forward. I don’t know how the Seminoles —

CLAY: The Florida State Seminoles is an example. They are honored. They were a warring tribe that fought for itself in the state of Florida. They’re like we consider it an honor that you call yourself the Seminoles we want you to ton to that.

BUCK: The Fighting Irish thing, the guy’s a leprechaun. No one’s offended by leprechauns!

CLAY: Well, dwarfs — and you can’t say midgets anymore. I just said it, but you’re not supposed to say midget, you’re supposed to say little people, just like you can’t say Eskimo.

BUCK: No, no, there’s very important, very important point on this. You can say Eskimo. But it refers only to one of I believe five native tribes there —

CLAY: I didn’t know — yeah.

BUCK: So they don’t like — rather the native tribes don’t like that all are referred to as Eskimo because there’s Eskimo, Inuit and I think Aleuts is one, but don’t quote me on that one like the Aleutian Islands. I think there are a few different tribes so Eskimo is not like a slur or anything. It’s just used too broadly. This was explained to me by an Alaskan. But of course what’s the first question a New Yorker asks any Alaskan: Have you ever done the, like, Dangerous Catch fishing ship thing?

CLAY: Deadliest Catch.

BUCK: Deadliest Catch, yes.

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Our Feeble President Exposed at CNN Town Hall

22 Jul 2021

BUCK: If you read the CNN headlines, it was like Churchill during The Blitz.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: It was the most remarkable story at this town hall with CNN you could possibly imagine. Joe Biden, the great statesman of our era — a man with a vision worthy of Pericles or Abraham Lincoln or someone famous from past times. Here is Joe Biden just wowing us with his wisdom, his eloquence, and his vision for America.

BIDEN: That’s underway just like the other question that’s a logical — and I’ve heard you speak about it, because you’re always… I’m not being solicitous, but you… (sputters) You’re always straight up about what you’re doing. And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where you, uh, um, err, are are… Why can’t the — the — the experts say: We know that this virus is, in fact, uh, um, uhhh, er (sputtering) “is going to be — or excuse me… (sputtering) We — we — we know all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved but permanently approved.

LEMON: Mmm.

BIDEN: That’s underway, too. I expect that to occur quickly!

LEMON: Well, that being… It means…? You mean for the FDA?

BIDEN: For the FDA.

BUCK: I gotta say, Clay, here you got a guy it’s like those videos you see of a drunk guy running away from cops and it’s all, “Oh, he’s going! Is the train gonna stay on the tracks?” That’s the feeling you have the whole time. This is the great leader that the Democrats elected to save the country and unite us all.

CLAY: Buck, it is “traveshamockery” (if you remember that coined phrase) that after all of the discussion about Donald Trump’s mental faculties, they made him take a cognitive test, they talked about after we could see the 25th Amendment. When you hear Joe Biden, it is like being at Thanksgiving — and I hate to analogize this, but I think almost everyone listening to us has had this happen in their life.

When you are with a family member who is elderly and no longer has complete control of their faculties, and they may start one story and they end up going in two or three different directions, and you’re wondering if they’re going to be able to land the story plane. Joe Biden can’t cognitively — I really believe this — work through in real time in his brain.

And I think it’s wildly unfortunate. We’ve talked about this off air, Buck. One change… Look, our Constitution is an incredible document. One change that I wish we had made? You have to be 35 years old to be elected president. I wish they had said, “You can’t be older than 65 to also be elected president.” Age limits at the top end I think make a lot more sense than age limits at the bottom end.

And I listen to Joe Biden, that answer, I mean, it’s just sad. Can you imagine him talking to Vladimir Putin? Can you imagine him talking to Chairman Xi? Can you imagine what he’s like when he is tired, when all of the pressure is upon him? This is bad now. And we still have 3-1/2 more years of this at minimum, Buck, and they may try a Weekend at Bernie’s style, drag him across the finish line in 2024 ’cause they’re afraid of Kamala.

BUCK: Or a lot of people feel like he will step down. I just feel like there’s another part of this where the fact that Democrats… You know the old fable, the emperor with no clothes. The fact that Democrats all walk around acting like we’re supposed to think that this is normal is deeply unsettling and depressing. The idea that we can’t at least all agree that we can see this.

And as you rightly pointed out they were saying there needed to be… The Democrats, CNN, Washington Post, that whole apparatus of leftist power, they were sall saying that Trump needed to be imminently removed from office.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: Not even convince to do step down, removed from office because of deterioration of his mental faculties or essentially say just that he was crazy. They weren’t even saying he was suffering from senility. And so they made this an issue for four years, and now they pretend not to see what we’re all seeing and hearing.

CLAY: Not only did they make it an issue, Buck, they brought on doctors! Remember “believe the science”? They brought on doctors to analyze his cognitive abilities and whether or not they are declining. And they talk all the time now about how our democracy is in danger because of court reporting rights and everything else and how you’re trying to overule the American democracy.

They wanted him removed from office, a democratically elected president, because they do not trust his faculties — and now Joe Biden. I think we should play that clip multiple times multiple times during the course of today shoves not because I’m trying to pick on Joe Biden, but just think about what the reaction would have been in a town hall if Trump had been that unable to explain an answer to a basic question relating to vaccine approval. It would have been everywhere.

Democrats really are you do not pretend that this is not a real issue when I think every single person listening to us right now, again, has been at that Thanksgiving table, they’ve been at Christmas, and they know what a cognitive decline looks like in a loved one. And I don’t see how you can listen to Joe Biden regularly and not see that exactly going on here.

BUCK: There were two focuses last night, really, of the town hall on CNN, and it is remarkable to see how, oh, CNN, they’re just… It’s like in high school before the homecoming game or college. You had all the festivities and the hype session. Everyone at CNN loves this guy; it’s a free commercial for him. That much was all obvious.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Here’d Joe Biden on under 12 years old in school and masks.

BIDEN: Everyone over the age — uh, under the age of 12 should probably be wearing a mask in school. That’s probably what’s gonna happen. Secondly, those over the age of 12 who are able to get vaccinated — if you’re vaccinated, you shouldn’t wear a mask. If you aren’t vaccinated, you should be wearing a mask.

BUCK: Clay, I just got a text from a friend of mine as we’re here on air sending me an article from Fauci saying exactly what Biden said, not for kids but for everybody that now even if you’re vaccinated you should wear a mask. I’ve been saying this for months that the lull would end, and they would all of a sudden say we have to go back to this, which is why I didn’t want to give up the fight.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And you know what we’re gonna start doing soon? People like you and me and everyone who’s with us and everyone who’s listening and agrees with us they’re gonna start shutting you down on social. They’re gonna start with shadow banning. They’re gonna start with the algorithms not showing us your stuff to people and then it’s just gonna be you’re done you’re off. That’s how they’re gonna shut it down.

CLAY: This, Buck, is why we wanted radio. You and I had had this conversation. We said social media… You and I are digital natives. We said we could feel pressure in the wake of Donald Trump, that this was not going to be the ended of bannings on social media. So the ability we have to talk to the largest radio audience in the country every single day… It’s an incredible privilege, but this is what’s gonna happen.

Look, I landed last night, Buck, in L.A., and I have started to make my way around L.A., and this was the first city that has now reinstituted the mask mandate. And when I walked into my hotel last night there were signs telling me that I had to have my mask on. And when you’re trying to get your hotel and you’re talking to the guy, there’s a huge Plexiglas, display that distinguishes between me and the person working at the front desk.

Now, I will say this, to your point: I know you’ve been the anti-mask bandit in your gym. I will say on a very positive level, I went down to the gym this morning; it was packed. And nobody was wearing a mask. And so I do think regular people are rebelling against the stupidity of the mask.

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Spender Joe’s Childlike Understanding of Economics

22 Jul 2021

BUCK: I feel like we all understand the very basics of inflation, right?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: How does inflation work? You’ve got the value of dollars going down. Too many dollars are in circulation chasing goods, right? So, there’s too much money out there, and so money becomes worth less. It’s an issue of supply and demand, and so Joe Biden somehow thinks that if they spend a whole lot more money — or, actually, just if he repeats something three times — it will make it true.

BIDEN: Look, here’s the deal. Moody’s today — a Wall Street firm, not some liberal think tank — said if we pass the other two things I’m trying to get done, we will, in fact, reduce inflation, reduce inflation, reduce inflation, because we’re gonna be providing good opportunities and jobs for people who, in fact, are going to be reinvesting that money back in all the things we’re talkin’ about. Driving down prices, not raising prices.

BUCK: “Reduce inflation,” he says three times like a robot that has a microchip that malfunctioned.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: No serious person thinks their $3.5 trillion budget is going to reduce inflation, a decrease in the purchasing power of money and increase in the price of goods. This is a reality that they can try to get away from but it is right now creeping up on us.

CLAY: It’s childlike, Buck. It reminds me, when I was a kid and there would be stories on the television about the national debt, and I remember — and probably a lot of you do. You’ve answered these questions for your kids, your grandkids; you may have had them yourself. “If the government prints money, how can they ever run a deficit? Can’t they just print more money?”

‘Cause that’s the way the kids think. That’s the Democratic economic policy right now. It is a childlike, fundamental misunderstanding of how business works. And this is crazy. There used to be Democrats who were business owners and understood basic business. They have lost all control of their party, and I think they have to be sitting on the sidelines just throwing up their hands over this insanity.

BUCK: That childlike understanding of money, by the way, is now reflected in the underlying economic philosophy of some of the most powerful Democrats in the country. They’ve given it this fancy name of Modern Monetary Theory, MMT they call it for short.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Which is the argument that a government should print whatever fiat currency it wants to cover whatever needs it has, and there’s no pressure in the financing of it. So effectively no financial constraint. Print whatever you need to print and deal with the consequences. That is the money tree fallacy. This is we make it up so we can make up as much of it as we want, and we just keep putting it out there, and try to disconnect economic reality from what’s actually happening.

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CLAY: We’ve been talking about what appears to be a failure of argument at it’s most basic level, right, Buck? “Inflation doesn’t matter.” You’ve got Biden not making any sense on vaccinations, saying things that are not true and being unable to even answer the most basic questions out there. How much worse is this gonna get? I think it’s a question that a lot of people ask. Democrats are saying it privately. Republicans are having that conversation publicly.

BUCK: I think no one who looks at the numbers and what’s going on with the economy would think that this has been a successful first six or seven months for the Biden administration. They keep pretending like they’ve created. The expectation here was we were in lockdown, an artificial recession.

CLAY: That’s right. Not an economic recession, a forced-by-the-government-and-the-virus recession. And as soon as we got to widespread inoculation and reopening you have much more economic activity. Even with that wind in the sails, so to speak, it’s been pretty meager. And that’s why Biden’s trying so hard to convince people, “Oh, it’s gonna be great.”

BIDEN: The economy is picking up significantly. It’s rational when you think about it. The cost of an automobile is kind of back to what it was before the pandemic. We compare what the prices were for the last year in the pandemic, and they are up. They’re up because, in fact, there was not much call for, for example, automobiles.

You know, you had the rental car company selling off their entire stock! You found yourself in the same way with automobile deals. All of a sudden now, it’s comin’ back; we’re gonna grow at 7% is expected. We create more jobs in the first six months of my — our administration than anytime in American history. No president has ever, no administration has ever created as many jobs.

BUCK: The best job creator ever, Joe Biden. Notice… How? What jobs? Where? Where’d they do?

CLAY: Unemployment came out again, by the way, Buck, because we’re continuing to pay people not to work. We still haven’t even been able to fill all these nine million jobs. And, again, to your point there was an artificial, created recession. We created the recession in our response to covid, which, by the way, was completely unnecessary. Lockdowns didn’t work. Masks, by and large, haven’t worked. And you and I are both concerned that we’re spiraling right towards a repeat of what happened in March of 2020 as we move into the fall and the winter.

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Biden Lies, Says the Vaccinated Won’t Get Covid

22 Jul 2021

CLAY: I gotta tell you, Joe Biden, a lot of misinformation that he is spreading, in particular about covid. That is why we’re gonna play you a cut here that is 100% inaccurate. It’s also a lie, and either Joe Biden doesn’t know what is going on in his own White House (which is certainly possible) or he’s choosing to intentionally lie to the American public. Let’s play Joe Biden talking about vaccinations and lying and saying, “If you are vaccinated, you won’t get covid.”

BIDEN: The — the various shots that people are getting now cover that. They’re… Th-th-they’re… You’re okay. You’re not gonna get covid if you have these vaccinations.

CLAY: That’s a 100% a lie.

BUCK: What he’s gonna do is what he did with the (impression), “Facebook is killing people,” where he’s gonna say something, and then when everyone says, “Well, that’s not true,” he goes, “Well, of course, I meant something else. They’ll say, “He’s exaggerating,” or, “He’s trying to tell people, ‘You won’t go to the hospital or die,'” which is also not a factual or entirely true statement, right? There are people who get vaccinated who do go to the hospital and actually the numbers are higher recently than people anticipated from the Delta variant, but Biden doesn’t have to be accurate, Clay, ’cause he’s morally right. That’s how they see this.

CLAY: What is interesting, though, is the White House itself, the Biden White House has… They haven’t officially announced how many people, but they have a lot of right now in the Biden White House who have been double vaccinated and have contracted covid. And we’ve seen this happen with lots of different people across the media sphere and certainly the athletic sphere. Look, the data reflects that you have more protection when you are vaccinated. I’m not trying to argue to contrary there.

But telling people, “If you’re vaccinated you’re not going to get covid,” is 100% inaccurate. And if you’re lecturing everybody about Facebook protecting inaccuracies and Twitter and all the responsibilities of Big Tech, don’t you as the president of the United States have an obligation to get basic facts right and say, “Look, all Joe Biden had to say was, ‘You are more protected with the vaccine from covid than you are without it.'” That’s an answer that is true but saying to people out there you won’t get covid if you get vaccinated is a lie. It can still happen — and in fact, it’s starting to happen with the Delta variant more and more.

BUCK: They think that it’s justifiable to exaggerate or to oversell things to get people to do it when it comes to covid response and the vaccination campaign, which also brings me to why I think there’s some hesitancy this time around on also the mask situation, because you gotta a couple things going on here.

We were promised, Clay — very clearly and explicitly — you get the vaccine, you’re protected 95% with some of them, 92 or 93% with others. We were promised, “You’re done,” and there may be boosters in the future, and we all know that and they can’t tell that you won’t have to get boosters.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: So that’s a promise that they can’t really make that they did and also the implicit promise was, “Get vaccinated and you don’t have to wear a mask anymore,” and now the guidance from Fauci today is (impression), “Even if you’re vaccinated, maybe a mask, maybe some goggles.”

CLAY: (laughing) Maybe a triple mask. I saw, Buck… I’m sure you’ve seen it. I saw on my flight to L.A. yesterday. There were people there that were like in hazmat suits basically.

BUCK: Again? I saw that at the beginning. Back in the hazmats?

CLAY: I couldn’t believe it. They were triple masking. They looked like beekeepers. They looked like they were at some point halfway through the flight going to have to go pull honey out of a beehive. I’m looking around, asking —

BUCK: Can I tell you something?

CLAY: — what are you actually contemplating here?

BUCK: Just real quick. The people in the hazmat suits, as absurd as that is, that will probably protect you pretty well from any virus.

CLAY: (laughing) Yeah.

BUCK: Whereas the Hillary, Biden, Kamala kerchief that people are wearing that I see on the streets of New York or L.A. or wherever? That will not protect from you aerosolized virus.

CLAY: Do you have to take off the hazmat suit when you go through security? Is that like a coat? I don’t even know what the rules are.

BUCK: Good question.

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McCarthy and Jordan Push Back at Pelosi

22 Jul 2021

MCCARTHY: Speaker Pelosi has taken the unprecedented step of denying the minority party’s picks for the select committee on January 6. This represents something that has not happened in the House before for a select committee by the historian. It’s an egregious abuse of power. Pelosi has broken this institution, made it undeniable this panel has lost all legitimacy and credibility, and it shows exactly what I warned back in the beginning of January, that Pelosi would play politics with this. Pelosi has created a sham process. Unless Speaker Pelosi reverses course and seats all five Republicans, we will not participate. We will run our own investigation.

BUCK: Welcome back to the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. January 6th Commission. You heard there Kevin McCarthy talking about the sham of this commission that Pelosi’s pulling together. Remember, she blocked Jim Banks, Representative Banks, and Congressman Jim Jordan. Clay, we’re having Congressman Jordan on tomorrow.

CLAY: Yeah. He’s just a fantastic guy, and he’s gonna be on with us in the second hour of the program. By the way, we just talked to Big Ten commissioner Kevin Warren, and Jim Jordan is a big sports fan and also a Big Ten alum. But this goes to the incredible hypocrisy and sham investigation that is going on into the, in quotation marks, “insurrection,” Buck, right?

This is just designed to be a story that I think — at its best — for the Democratic Party going to distract from all the other failures that is going on with their leadership, and it is going to continue their theme of Republicans are dangerous; they want to destroy the democracy of the United States.

That’s really the theme of this, and if Jim Jordan is going to push back aggressively — which he would have, and probably make better arguments that many of the Democrats on this this committee — then they don’t want that battle to actually be taking place.

BUCK: The big problem, as I see it, with this, even apart from what obviously going to be an incredibly biased and politically charged effort to smear. The purpose of the January 6th Commission is to smear all Republicans, to undermine all conservatives — not the people who actually engaged in the riot, not just you hundred people that went too far. No, no. Everybody.

Anybody who is on the right gets lumped in with them so that they can create a narrative of, if you support, let’s say, oh, I don’t know, Donald Trump, were he to run again, or even to support the Republican Party that Donald Trump will be on the stump for, out there on the campaign trail supporting in the midterms, you were de facto supporting the insurrection. But, Clay, what’s so fascinating about this…

We can get into more of these details and also where we are with Biden and crime, which is a big problem for the Democrats. Discuss how they’re just full of it on crime. But a big problem they have is if they really want to use this as a commission for Congress, they’re gonna have to show us the thousands of hours collectively of surveillance footage inside the Capitol.

That they have and they will not release. Why? Why can’t we see what happened? Why can’t we know after why can’t we know who shot Ashli Babbitt? And why? What was the legal justification? Why can’t we see the communications between different members of Capitol Police.

And the hierarchy and other security organizations and agencies leading up to and the day of January 6th to see what the heck happened. We should be using this to see how could this going on. But, Clay, that’s not point of this was. In fact, they’re hiding the very reason that you would have such a commission, they’re hiding evidence that we shouldn’t from them.

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JORDAN: The Democrats normalize anarchy. They normalize rioting and looting. And when rioters and looters attacked our law enforcement personnel — when rioters and looters destroyed small businesses — what did Democrats do? They went out and raised money to bail ’em out of jail, and they continue to talk about defunding the police, and in fact did that in all these major urban areas, which is why crime is up!

So they don’t want to talk about that stuff. They just want to be partisan. They just want to continue to attack the former president. They want to play their political games. So I applaud leader McCarthy for saying we’re gonna do our job. We’re gonna continue to work and get to the bottom and answer the questions that the leader raised, the questions that, frankly, the American people want answers to.

BUCK: Strong words by Jim Jordan there. Welcome back to the Clay and Buck Show. And what the congressman is saying is obvious to all of this. I still remember what I refer to as “the purge” night here in New York City where you had a rampaging Antifa mob on Fifth Avenue, main shopping district; breaking store windows, looting. They broke into department stores, broke into cell phone stores, stole stuff, and just running rampant all night long.

These are Biden voters, okay? These are Democrats, leftists. This happened at different times in different places all over the United States — and if you’re really thinking about insurrection, if you’re thinking about insurgency, you would look at what happened and say, “This is a way to pressure not just a government, pressure a society to collapse,” Clay, to start to undermine law enforcement, to make it impossible to do their job.

To create a culture of lawlessness and to make people afraid in their own neighborhoods unless they go along with the mob. There has been no accountability for that whatsoever. The media pretends like it didn’t happen. The BLM uprising of 2020 was a national disgrace. But we can’t talk about that. Only January 6 riot. That’s the only riot.

CLAY: Not even all the riots that took place all summer, Buck, but every major city, they had boarded up all of the city for Election Day and Election Night. They weren’t doing that if Joe Biden won. They were doing that if Donald Trump had won, and so this idea — and I think Jim Jordan nailed it. If you want to believe in lawfulness, which I think most of our listeners do, and certainly you and I do, then you have to apply the law evenly to everyone, which is what I’ve heard most Republicans say!

Look, if you are going to prosecute people for breaking the law as a protest turns into a riot, that is what American police and American district attorneys should do. But pretending that the January 6th incident was anywhere near as dangerous or long lasting or significant as the BLM riots of the summer is a fundamental untruth. So on the one hand, as Jim Jordan said, Democrats were bailing out everybody who was being arrested during the BLM protests. Can you imagine the reaction if Donald Trump were raising money to bail out people involved in January 6?

BUCK: Let’s look at that juxtaposition for a second because, yes, you’re absolutely correct. But it even goes in the far opposite direction where you have people who have been held in solitary confinement —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — allegedly for their own protection. But actually when you see the court filings, which I have read, you will see (or some of them), you will see that the judges say, we can’t let them out because of the threat of another insurrection and in at least one case, the so-called QAnon shaman, it’s clear the guy has —

CLAY: Severe mental issues.

BUCK: Mental health issues. Keeping a person in solitary confinement as though he’s a threat is inhumane. But the frauds at CNN, the Washington Post, the New York Times, the ACLU — the left-wing narrative apparatus, not even media apparatus — has nothing to say about this other than, “It’s necessary to protect our sacred democracy.” Something else that comes to mind, Clay, this plot against Whitmer, which was used right before the election.

You remember. “Oh, my gosh! Whitmer was pro-lockdown and now there’s a plot against her of all these people.” We find out a dozen FBI informants and/or agents involved. One of the FBI agents in the alleged Whitmer plot has now been arrested for severe spousal abuse, assaulting his wife, after taking her to a swingers party. So this individual up on the stand is going to be quite a scene, I can tell you.

CLAY: That’s a cross-examination I’d like to watch.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: I mean, you want to talk about a heck of a situation. But to your point, the entire process by which this was sold, as if this were a well-organized plot designed to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, designed with military precision? All of these things which basically we had told to us, it looks more and more like the government in many ways manufactured this entire story.

BUCK: I’m having a harder time when conservatives in good faith come up to me at events or they see me in the street and they want to talk to me and they’ll have a theory. Maybe you could even say it’s a conspiracy theory. But they’ll have a theory about something; they’ll say to me, “Buck, not only do I think the FBI had informants on January 6 on Capitol Hill…” Switching from Whitmer to Capitol Hill January 6 for a second.

“I think the FBI really spurred this on.” I say, “Well, we don’t really have the evidence yet,” and they’ll say to me, “Can you tell me that that’s not possible?” And I sit there and I say, “No, I actually can’t tell you that’s not possible,” because the next thing they’ll say to me is, “What about the fact that the entire mainstream media apparatus lied for months about Officer Sicknick on January 6 being beaten to death with a fire extinguisher?”

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: That fundamentally did not happen and would have been provable and just a matter of fact certainly within 48 hours of the initial incident. The guy died two days after the event actually happened. As we know, he died of a stroke, and yet the reporting on this was — you could just go back and see — he was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher. “These were murderous insurrectionists!” That was a vicious and intentional lie. So when things like that happen — and that’s a matter of fact — and then people say to me a dozen FBI agents where there for the inception of the Whitmer plot and this is all about January 6.

CLAY: A dozen! A dozen, by the way. You know this better than most people. That’s a major effort.

BUCK: By the way, I meant “informants,” so if I’m explaining it right.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: A dozen informants, and people were basically being handled by FBI. Their handlers are FBI agents.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: From inception, this plot never really made sense. And note, they’re taking it to trial. Only one person has taken some kind of a plea. Everyone else is going to trial on this one. If you’re taking this kind of a thing to trial, unusually it means you think you’ve got a fighting chance ’cause otherwise the sentences are gonna be so severe. We’re getting to the point, Clay, where until there’s accountability for the lies…

The lies about Officer Sicknick being beaten to death. The media lied about that. The lack of willingness to tell us what happened to Ashli Babbitt, who shot her, and what the legal justification for it? Why can’t we see the surveillance footage from January 6th? Until we have answers to this, when people come to me and they have a theory, all I can say…

And that’s assuming I don’t agree. Sometimes I do; sometimes I don’t. But all I can say about some of these theories that they have is, “I can’t tell you you’re wrong just based on the faith you should have in the DOJ and the FBI, because I come from the CIA, and I have very little faith — whenever politics are involved — that you can trust these places.”

CLAY: And I think that speaks to the overall lack of trust in American institutions in general, which continues to decline. We talked earlier this week about the two least trusted groups in all of the country and (chuckles) what do you think’s involved here? Congress and the media were the two least trusted groups in the entire country by the masses.

I think one, Congress has a 12% approval rate according to recent Gallup poll, and the media has a 16% approval rate. Both of them are directly involved in January 6th, correct? And so when you look at situations like these, I can understand why people at a minimum want to point out the hypocrisy and certainly at an additional minimum don’t buy into face value explanations they’re having shared with them.

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Paul and DeSantis vs. Behar: Who’s Smart?

22 Jul 2021

CLAY: Yesterday, in the third hour of the program, Buck Sexton and I had a conversation with Rand Paul that, frankly, is probably gonna end up getting banned by Facebook; it’s probably gonna end up getting banned by Big Tech because it was too nuanced, it was too honest, and it didn’t fit Big Tech and Democratic Party talking points. And I want to play a cut from that. Would you agree with that characterization, Buck, of that conversation that we had with Rand Paul yesterday in the third hour of the program?

BUCK: It was an excellent chat because I think it allowed everyone to see the different levels of nuance that if you wanted to have a real conversation about what we should do and what the risks are in this country, that’s what it would require. But instead, it’s always, “Take the shot. Mask up. Shut up, peasant! Don’t ask any questions.”

And people have, understandably, those who still believe in freedom and the dignity that comes from being able to make your own decisions about your own life day to day, they’re really tired of this stuff, especially from the Fauci-ite loons that have been wrong at so many points at so many times. But remember the Democrat Party media never admits they’re wrong about anything. How many times did they…? Not to divert; I know we’re gonna get to Rand Paul. How many times did you see anyone, Clay, who was involved in the Russia collusion sham say, “You know what? We really got that one wrong.”

CLAY: We blew it.

BUCK: “We blew it. We got that wrong.” No, in fact, the New York Times got a Pulitzer for their reporting on that. It’s all about the agenda. And they’re increasingly more honest about that because it’s so obvious that they can’t even get away with telling the same lies. Well, with covid it’s the same thing. They pretend they have this caricature of the right, this caricature of all conservatives that they just refuse. We’re all just sitting around drinking moonshine and playing banjos and refusing the shot.

CLAY: Which is, by the way, to be fair, a lot of that’s true where I live in Tennessee. But let’s… We got Rand Paul, who is just up the road from me in Bowling Green, Kentucky, I believe. Great town, by the way, Bowling Green, Kentucky, where Western Kentucky University is. I believe that’s where Rand Paul lives.

He came on the show with us yesterday, and we got into several different details with him. I would encourage you to make sure that you go listen to the full conversation. But I just wanted to play this for you, this nuanced analysis from Rand Paul — who, by the way, is a doctor — as he discussed covid.

And I want you to listen to this answer from our interview yesterday as we were talking about the difference between natural immunity — a/k/a if you’ve gotten the virus like Buck, like I, and like Rand Paul all have — whether it makes sense to also get the vaccine, and also herd immunity and advice based on age as it pertains to the vaccine. Listen to this, and then I want to play a Democratic stooge reaction to Rand Paul.

But I just want you to listen to this clip from our interview yesterday.

SEN. PAUL: The first thing is in a free society everybody makes up their own mind based on their doctor’s advice — and sometimes multiple doctors’ advice — and there can be conflicts of opinion. I’ll give you a general statement, but it could still be different based on your own medical history. First of all, the vaccine is way safer than the disease if you’re over 65, without question.

That’s my advice. If you don’t want to take it, that’s your business. But that’s just my advice. If you want to take it, over 65, I think the statistics are very good. If you’re over 40 and overweight, I think you’re at significant risk for this too and I would be… Below age 40 when you get down into the twenties, I think that the standard has to be very, very high, almost to perfection for the vaccine because the disease is so extraordinarily non-lethal in the younger ages, particularly below age 25.

Whether or not you take it or not? If it were my children and they were pushing me on it, I would probably test ’em for antibodies first and see if they’ve had the disease. If my kids had had the disease, there’s no way I would give them the vaccine. For people my age — I’m 58 and have had it — at this point, I don’t think there’s any evidence that there are large numbers of people who have had it getting it and going to the hospital and dying.

If I see a study next week that says, 5% of the people who had it a year ago are now in the hospital and dying, (chuckles) I’ll change my mind and I’ll go vaccinated. But given the evidence now and given that there are no studies showing large numbers of people in the hospital or dying that previously had the disease, I’ve chosen not to get the vaccination.

But members of my family I have advised to get it that are over 65, overweight. A few of my brothers and sisters are physicians. They chose to get it because they see patients with covid. I’m not against the vaccine, but I am for freedom and letting each individual make their own decision.

BUCK: There’s nothing unreasonable, nothing outrageous. In fact, it’s eminently… It’s clearly a nuanced and in-depth view of it. But you don’t always get that sense when you listen to people in the media, Clay. There are some people who want to make it seem like Rand Paul is telling everybody, “Oh, don’t worry about covid. Just rub some dirt on it.”

CLAY: And this is where I think the fundamental dishonesty of many people in our media need to be called out. And you just heard that Rand Paul answer. Imagine if he had been at a town hall addressing America about covid, how much better would you feel than you felt hearing Joe Biden address the media and the public yesterday on CNN in his town hall okay?

So Joy Behar… You just heard Rand Paul. He was on the show yesterday. You guys heard him talk directly to you. I want you to listen to what Joy Behar said about Rand Paul on The View. Listen to this clip and tell me whether this is in any way fair at all of a take.

BEHAR: Okay. Rand Paul is a third-rate party hack who, by the way, got covid, is lucky to be alive, and then refused to take the vaccine afterwards. Uhhh… (sputters) If anyone is responsible for all the deaths that have occurred, uhhh, since covid began, it is more of these lying party hacks like Rand Paul who have demonized masks and then demonized vaccines. And they know who they are. Uh, he should be thanking Fauci instead of accusing him of — of — of murder. My God.

BUCK: Behar is actually impressive, Clay. She may very well be the dumbest person on television speaking about current events, which is a crowded field!

CLAY: Very crowded.

BUCK: There’s a lot of names we could throw in there. She may be the dumbest person on television who discusses news, at least. I wouldn’t buy like a salad chopper from her.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: But in news she’s clearly in a league of her own. But she’s actually doing her job. Her role on that show — and the role, I would argue, of CNN anchors and people who work at the New York Times — is to push a narrative about this stuff. So that there is political momentum and political use for those who are lockdowners, Fauci-ites, and that they can transfer that into midterm victories, more rules, more regulations.

There is this whole change, this shift in control that we’ve accepted as a society, unfortunately, over the last 18 months, and this want to perpetuate that. And they’ve already started to try to talk about how we can move to the next level. We’ll get on to climate change. We’ll get on to gun violence. We’ll get on to racial inequity, whatever it is. But the equivalent of mobilizing for war like we did for covid is what they want to do for everything else on the leftist-Marxist wish list. That’s the plan.

CLAY: It is so, to me… You heard Rand Paul and then you heard Joy Behar. How transparently dishonest is her take on what Rand Paul is saying. You heard him talk to you, all of you out there listening yesterday, and you just heard that clip. And if you didn’t hear Rand Paul talk himself and you just heard Joy Behar — as, Buck, millions of people do — you might trust her. You might believe her. We talk, for those of you out there who have the “red pill moment,” The Matrix reference — great movie, by the way, that I’m watching with my kids all over again.

BUCK: Top 10 action so time.

CLAY: So good.

BUCK: I might even put it Top 5 all time.

CLAY: So good, Buck. But if you don’t actually seek out evidence yourself, you don’t realize how often you’re being lied to. And this is what I would say Buck, for you and I and everybody out there. There’s a difference between disagreeing with an opinion. You can disagree with opinions, and you can do it honestly and transparently, and that’s one of the great things about the First Amendment and about our country in general. But a direct lie, like what Joy Behar said to her audience about Rand Paul? That’s the next level of dishonesty that is happening on a daily basis everywhere.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

BUCK: Clay, they’re trying to tell us — meaning the left, the Democrats, however you want to refer to them. They’re trying to tell us that our side is always opposed to vaccines. All vaccine hesitancy is our fault. Remember, Kamala and Joe were saying you couldn’t trust the “Trump FDA.” They said it very clearly, very explicitly.

“I don’t know about that Trump Food and Drug Administration. I don’t think you could trust them with a vaccine,” when they were running against Trump of course. And now everything is our fault. Meanwhile, who is the biggest Republican hero in government of the pandemic?

CLAY: Ron DeSantis.

BUCK: Ron DeSantis. Exactly.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And what does Ron DeSantis say about vaccines?

DESANTIS: So here’s I think the most important thing with the data. If you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from covid is effectively zero. If you look at the people that are being admitted to hospitals, over 95% of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. And so these vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.

CLAY: I wish he were answering questions instead of Biden, right, Buck? That’s a nuanced, smart analysis, and what I love about DeSantis — and this ties in with what you and I try to do, Buck. Look at the data and let it guide you in the arguments that you made as opposed to responding emotionally or unintelligently and insisting on everything being black or white, the greatest thing or the worst thing that’s ever existed.

BUCK: Yeah. There has been pretty straightforward ’cause the data has been clear on this from the early months, really the first, I’d say, 60 to 90 days of the pandemic, even. If you’re over 65 and have a comorbidity, hypertension, weight issue. Even if let’s assume that the worst stuff that’s out there about the vaccine, from reputable sources, people that are serious.

Even if there are some challenges that come with it for people, it’s still a better option to take that risk and to. It’s what DeSantis is saying; it’s what Dr. Rand Paul, Senator Paul said to us, better to take that and accept the risk of the vaccine for that, whatever those risks may be, than to be a person with comorbidities over 65 who gets covid.

By the way, as you and I know — two people who got covid — it’s everywhere and it’s really easy to get and it’s still bouncing all over the country. The reason you don’t have a whole lot more cases right now is because there’s so much immunity within the population. It’s not because this stuff isn’t still really easy to get.

CLAY: There’s no doubt. You and I have been consistent. We’ve told your parents are over 65.

BUCK: I said, “Get it as soon as you can.”

CLAY: Same thing I told my family. Just look at the data and make that choice. Now, that’s a different choice than I’m making for my 13-year-old, right? And I think that’s part of being a parent is looking at all that data and making a rational decision going forward.

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