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The City of Dallas Has Lost Its Mind

26 Jul 2021

BUCK: We gotta ask a question. It’s one you should probably ask your smug liberal neighbor or colleague at work, although this will probably lead to a fight. If you really care about social justice, if you really care about tackling institutional racism, is it enough, lib…? Whoever this lib may be. Is it enough to merely put a black square on your Instagram for BLM or to announce your pronouns when nobody’s asking?

Nobody’s saying, “I’m curious what your pronouns are.” You just announce them to show everybody who you are. Is it enough, though, to tackle injustice in society — and, specifically, systemic racism — just to say the right things? Don’t actions mean more than words? I feel we all know that as kids, Clay. If you’re really dedicated to something.

You gotta actually do something about it. Well, there’s a group in Dallas. Now, I will say, Clay and I have been going back and forth on this. It’s a new social justice organization called Dallas Justice. I went to their website. It seems like this is real, ’cause we thought maybe this was parody initially, yes, Clay?

CLAY: On the internet in general, there is so much absurdity that we’ve passed the point of satire, particularly as it comes to issues of race. We’ve talked with Democratic Party’s entire baseline argument now is everything is racist. So when I saw this circulating on social media, my thought was, “Is this possibly real?” because it’s so absurdly ridiculous. But it does appear to be real. The fact that we’ve reached the point where we can’t even tell what’s real and not, I think also helps to make the point here. But what are they demanding?

BUCK: Oh, it’s amazing. So Dallas Justice Now is the organization, and they have passed this out. This made the way on social media. Again, it all looks legit and real. And I’ll just say it now, if this is some kind of effort at proving what a farce some of these social justice efforts are, it still makes the point because I think this is great.

I think that this is what should happen. If you are a wealthy, white lib, you should sign on for this right now. You should have the courage of your convictions and actually sign it. Here’s what they say. It’s called the college pledge. “We are writing to inform you…” I won’t use the name, but they drop this off for a person.

“We are writing to inform you [redacted] that we understand you are white and live within the Highland Park Independent School District — this is the Dallas area — and thus benefit from enormous privilege taken to the expense of communities of color. You live in the whitest and wealthiest neighborhood in Dallas. Whether you know it or not, you earned or inherited your money through oppressing people of color.

“However, it is also our understanding that you are a Democrat and a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement, which makes you one of our white allies and puts you in a position to help correct these cruel injustices. We need you to step up and back up your words with action and truly sacrifice to make our segregated city more just,” and here’s the ask, Clay.

Here we go: “We are asking you to pledge that your children will not apply or attend any Ivy League school or U.S. News & World Report Top-50 school,” and they say it’s because they obviously want to make sure that white privilege families don’t continue to have this privilege.

You are, quote, “taking spaces away from students of color who really need the opportunities, education, and influence these schools provide.” Clay, I want to ask all the sanctimonious CNN/MSNBC-watching, New York Times-subscribing white libs out there, “Is this too much to ask? There are so many other good schools!”

CLAY: This is the rubber-meets-the-road moment. For instance, why I thought the Rachel Nichols ESPN story that we talked about, her response to being replaced by a black woman was, “Oh, that’s fine. I understand that there’s diversity and inclusion issues. But don’t take my thing away,” and this is why ultimately all of the “white allies” out there, people who are white people with the BLM signs out in their front yards…

They’re blacking out their Instagram pictures or whatever it was during that protest and all of these ridiculous cosmetic theater movements social media. What you really need to do is give up your white privilege if you truly believe it exists and give something else to a minority to replace you, right? And what often happens is you really see how much…

Now, this is such a ridiculous request, but it’s the kind of thing that if you truly believed America was a systemic racist place, you have to give up your own privilege, and moreover, your kids have to give up their own privilege. And let me just defend Highland Park for a minute here, by the way. Great part of Dallas. Been there, have friends there.

Many people… This is what’s lost on the BLM community and people who are making arguments such as the one you just read. A huge percentage of people that live in Highland Park are there because they busted their asses to get there, not because they inherited some massive amount of wealth.

BUCK: I don’t know, Clay. I feel all these microaggressions piling up.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: I feel the white privilege exuding right now. Talking about hard work and capitalism?

CLAY: Getting good test scores.

BUCK: How dare you, sir! Can I just add in, ’cause, first of all, when you said that it’s a ridiculous request, I agree with you insofar as the whole thing is absurd. I also don’t believe in systemic racism that BLM talks about and all the rest. But you do have affirmative action in schools at the very, very powerful tool at these elite universities in particular.

CLAY: Oh yeah.

BUCK: It is making its way to the Supreme Court right now. You may, in fact, have the case, ’cause, remember, it was… What was it, Grutter v. Bollinger? “In 25 years, we won’t need this.”

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: We’re about 15 years since that decision.

CLAY: That case went through I believe in like 2003-ish was, if I remember the year right, I was in law school when that affirmative action case was decided. And now we’ve got a brand-new Supreme Court and that case as you well point out although it doesn’t discuss much, they say in 20 or 25 years it won’t be necessary.

BUCK: Affirmative action is unconstitutional.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: But we’ll see if they actually have the courage to say in college admissions that it is and anybody who doesn’t understand how it’s so obviously unconstitutional should speak to the Asian meshes who are applying to Harvard who are saying, “What’s our privilege here?” Anyway, that’s it.

CLAY: That’s a real good discussion we should have at some point, by the way.

BUCK: Back to the college pledge from this Dallas Justice organization. They wrote this, and this is why I love it. Quote, “We know that this sounds like a tough commitment,” as in: Don’t let your kid going to an elite school, elite university. “But it is truly disheartening to see wealthy white folks sending charitable donations, hosting #BlackLivesMatter on social media and putting up yard signs as if to say that minimal effort is all they’re prepared to do in the fight for racial justice. The quest for justice requires commitment from our white allies.” I absolutely agree! White libs, give up your kids’ elite spots in university. Otherwise, you’re a bunch of phonies. I love what they’re doing here.

CLAY: I think it’s even funnier if they specifically targeted with these letters, people who had Black Lives Matter sort of signs in their yards, right? And if they targeted based on donations and everything else. Because one of the things you learn and maybe these super white liberals who are “uber-woke” are recognizing this, too. It doesn’t end and you can never do enough.

That’s ultimately what this demand is. The demands just keep growing. It’s analogous to me for mascots. This idea that you’re sudden gonna change the Cleveland Indians name and people are gonna say, “Oh, okay! Well, now we’re all good.” No. It’s the tip of the progressive sphere they have to demand more.

BUCK: I’m also a little traumatized by the fact that you just said that on radio, Clay. Um, it’s the Cleveland Guardians.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: It has been adjusted accordingly. It is not “the Cleveland Indians.” We’re gonna have go back and retroactively bleep every time Clay brings up the I-word!

CLAY: That I dare say “the Cleveland Indians.”

BUCK: Anyway we’ll come back into more of this in a second with another store out of Dallas that Clay is gonna the lead us into.

CLAY: Dallas is falling apart, boys and girls.

BUCK: If you thought that British soldiers in the trenches of World War I had it rough, these Texas Democrats from the statehouse who have had to fly to D.C.? Oh, my gosh, what they’re being put through right now. It’s amazing.

CLAY: You’re gonna love this.

BUCK: But you’re supposed to help them. Clay will tell you what when we come back in a second.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: The city of Dallas has lost its mind. First up, you have the progressive coalition demanding that BLM’s white supporters not send their kids to top-50 institutions. Meanwhile, you may well recall that we had and still have the Texas Democrats who have fled the state to avoid any sort of change to the overall voting bills in the state of Texas, and they are struggling.

They are mightily, mightily struggling in their relatively high-end Dallas neighborhoods. They departed Dallas, and they are now in their high-end Washington, D.C., hotels. And I swear to God this is true. This is not made up. The Dallas Democratic Party is requesting that their constituents send care packages to them! So in case you’re listening out there — and, by the way, I think we could put some really funny things in these care packages.

BUCK: A lot of soy milk. A lot of soy milk, Clay.

CLAY: (chuckling) Yeah. Before 5 o’clock on Tuesday, they are requesting Dr Pepper — this is real — salsa, hard candy, hair spray, travel toiletries, hand sanitizers, sewing kids, first aid, and/or money to pay for shipping. Now, I went to college in Washington D.C. You lived there for a while, Buck. I don’t remember it being that hard in the city to buy whatever you needed to in order to get on with your day-to-day existence.

BUCK: I’m pretty sure from my six years or so of living in Washington, D.C., that they still — ’cause I know when I lived there, you could. You can still buy hair spray and, yes, even salsa.

CLAY: And Dr Pepper.

BUCK: In fact, there are some places I know in D.C. where they make very good homemade salsa.

CLAY: If you’ve got kids right now, it’s summer camp season. So we had kids, two of ours were at an overnight, week long camp, and so we packed a care package for them. They think it’s fun to hear from mom and dad and get some candy to be able to share around. Whoever came up with this idea? Does Dallas Democratic Party fire them? I mean, it’s so insanely tone-deaf.

BUCK: First of all, we shouldn’t be sending them, what is it, Michelob Light or something they had on the plane?

CLAY: Miller Lite.

BUCK: Miller Lite. Close enough. I mean, it’s one thing… You send care packages to troops downrange in Kandahar —

CLAY: Yes, yes.

BUCK: — who could use some decent quality coffee and, some other things, whatever it is. You want to send them some goodies ’cause they’re out on the front lines.

CLAY: A taste of home when you’re a long way from home.

BUCK: They don’t have all that stuff. It turns out that Washington, D.C., even for the Texans listening right now, they may think, “Oh, my gosh. D.C.? I would never want to go there.” True. However, they also have Walmart, and they have stores.

CLAY: CVS.

BUCK: Amazon.

CLAY: On every corner. Yeah, even Amazon, if you’re not happy with your local retail establishment. It’s such a tone-deaf thing to send out, particularly because there are so many people that are still struggling to a large extent because of Democratic lockdowns that led to millions of lost jobs. And these guys voluntarily, on the taxpayer dime, have bolted, and they are staying in a luxury hotel in Washington, D.C.

BUCK: I also think this is — and I believe this from the very beginning — this whole thing from a PR perspective, for the messaging, the narrative the Democrats are going for here? This is backfiring. I mean, everyone can see the sad little salad selfies, “Look at what I’m having positive put up! Oh, gosh!” These guys are taking photos of themselves. “We’re standing here to voting rights,” and all this stuff.

Governor Abbott’s just saying, “Can you guys stop being a bunch of clowns? Come back and do your jobs, please?” Who ends up looking the adults in this process who are serious about governance, Clay, and who look like the little activist crybabies who, when they can’t get their, way refused to do their jobs and are actually the ones blocking democracy, the democratic process in the state of Texas and all of this?

So we can see what’s really happening here. So, in a sense, I’m pleased with the fact that they’re so tone-deaf that everyone can see what a stupid stunt this is. But we’ve also gotta make sure those Texas build get passed he can’t lose sight of the voting rights issues, the voting integrity issues that are at stake.

CLAY: Yeah, and we should mention governor Greg Abbott literally as we’re talking about this tweeted, “I will keep calling special sessions until we address every emergency item. Funding for foster care, property tax relief, bail reform…” (chuckles)

By the way, also the University of Texas is moving to potentially the SEC for football. I know you’re not a sports guy. But this is involved now in the Texas legislature. Maybe the thing that brings them back from D.C. is something that unites the whole state of Texas, which is football.

BUCK: I will tell you one fun thing about doing this show now, Clay, is I see people out there in the world. I talked to a friend this weekend. I said, “Yeah, we had the Big Ten commissioner on for a real interesting talk.” I just threw in Big Ten, blah, blah, and bunch of things I learned from that interview, and all of a sudden, it’s like I pass for a normal American who likes college sports.

CLAY: That’s right. It’s a new world for you! A new world.

BUCK: Like the padawan here is listening to Obi-Wan on the sports, and all the sudden I’m throwing a lightsaber around.

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CNN Becomes the January 6th Channel

26 Jul 2021

BUCK: We’re gonna come back with more on… the fixation on the January 6th Commission. Clay and I have some theories about why this is still such an important story to Democrats. I mean, it feels like CNN is the covid January 6 channel.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

JEFFRIES ON CNN: They’re not interested in allowing the truth to be presented to the American people. The House Republicans have become the cover-up caucus. Uh, certainly, Liz Cheney, uh, has taken a different approach! She’s not, uhhh, putting forth, uh, the big lie. She’s gonna defend the rule of law. That’s what the Democratic Party members of the select committee are gonna do. Uh, and we’ll see what happens over the next few days in terms of if Pelosi decides to make any additional appointments.

BUCK: Welcome back to the Clay and Buck show. I’m Buck. He’s Clay. And that was Representative Jeffries praising Republican Liz Cheney and Republican, of course, Adam Kinzinger also coming in for a lot of praise from Democrats these days for being those Republicans who get a pat on the head from the Democrats for helping go along with this commission that to me couldn’t be any more obvious, Clay.

The Biden administration, especially given this covid moment of panic that they’re going through right now in mid-July after the mass vaccination campaign for many, many months. They have no victory to celebrate. There’s nothing they can point to and say, “Oh, look what an amazing job we’ve done!”

Yeah, more people are vaccinated. Covid’s gone down. That was already in process of happening when they took over. It’s not as good as they said it would be. So what do they want to do? They want to have Pelosi having this handpicked January 6 “insurrection” commission to try to distract folks. That’s what’s going on.

CLAY: Well, I think there’s a subtle desperation, and we haven’t talked about this. But you and I were texting with the show crew. The overall goodwill optimism has declined 20% in this country over the past couple of months. Why is that? I think because the Biden administration came in and what was their number-one thing they told all of us, Buck? “We’re gonna fix covid.”

Even if it wasn’t true and even if the vaccine was already rolling out under Trump and everything else, their idea was, “Hey, by July 4th, if you listen to us, everything will be fine,” and, by the way, we basically hit Joe Biden’s goal of 70% of adults 18 and up to get at least one shot of covid. I don’t know what percentage, 68% or whatever we are at 18-and-ups.

And when you actually look at that, what I think the Democrats are desperate about as they are looking at all the data is they’re saying, “Oh, my God. We are rolling back, potentially, to more covid-related craziness,” and that’s all they have to rely on. The border’s a mess. Murders are skyrocketing. Inflation, as you said going to break, is starting to rise as well.

This infrastructure deal is crap, as anyone with a functional brain can see. The budget’s gonna blow out and make inflation worse. Joe Biden is Jimmy Carter 2.0 ,and covid is the weight that’s going to continue to pull him down because that’s his number-one goal, in addition to the bipartisan joke.

“I’m gonna make America bipartisan again and people are gonna get along and I’m gonna restore the soul of the nation,” or whatever he tried to sell us on, all of that is not true. And his one big thing was, “I’m gonna fix covid! I’m gonna listen to the experts and everything else,” and guess what? We’re headed for I think another spike in the fall. Covid’s here to stay. Biden didn’t do anything to get rid of it.

BUCK: And yet media wants you to think that somehow you can’t see what’s going on and come to your own conclusions. It’s all so much better because… Joe Biden is in charge? This was always a laughable proposition.

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The Democrats Own This Crime Wave

26 Jul 2021

CLAY: If you missed the first hour, we talked a lot about the covid vaccine battles and the ridiculousness of the border we were just talking about in terms of how you cannot go into Canada because of covid, and it will be policed aggressively. But meanwhile on the southern border, it’s wide open.

People are coming across with covid all the time, which flies directly in the face of arguing that covid is a major issue. And, as you look around the country, one of the continuing biggest issues outside of the border and outside of covid is the massive increase of crime, which many of you, no matter what part of this country you live in, are experiencing and seeing on a level that, frankly, we have not seen in over a generation in American life.

The murder rate is up unlike ever before, and all of it is continuing to spiral. And the fact of the matter is, Buck Sexton, a lot of the people who would be traditional allies of the Democratic Party are completely repudiating and rejecting the demonization of police, which has become such a massive part of the overall Democratic brand. And it’s really wild to see when you actually look at the data of what’s going on.

BUCK: There’s data that shows what people want and then there’s also people in law enforcement that are speaking out and saying that enough is enough and there has been a sea change in the way that law enforcement is supposed to be interacting with, not just the general community, but suspects, people who are breaking laws. This is a result, as we all know, of the anti-cop, BLM narrative that went into effect 13 months ago after the killing of George Floyd, BLM 2.0. Here is the police chief in D.C. who’s making an argument about coddling violent criminals.

ROBERT CONTEE: But I’m gonna tell you the truth. The real issue is we have a vicious cycle of bad actors who do things, no accountability, and they end up back in communities, and the police officers… And I guarantee you when we lock up whoever did this, they will be no stranger to us. I promise that you. But it’s been happening in communities all across our city.

And I’m saying to you, “Enough is enough,” I’ve been a police officer in this city for over 30 years. I’ve been born and raised right here in this city, started my patrol career right here in this district. And the way that we’re going and the things we’re trying to go to? We want to help people. Yes, we should. But you cannot coddle violent criminals! You cannot! You cannot treat violent criminals who are out here making communities unsafe for you, for your loved ones, for me, for my loved ones.

BUCK: I mean, Clay, does he listen to the Clay & Buck show?

CLAY: Probably.

BUCK: We could just make him the feature guest. I completely agree with him, AND that’s one thing I’ll say about local law enforcement that gets overlooked. The libs love the FBI because they view the FBI now as the praetorian guard that they can send after the “white nationalist January 6 insurrectionists.” So you don’t hear a lot of FBI criticism.

They also spied on Trump. That’s another thing. Local law enforcement, Clay, it comes from the community they police. They are trying to keep their cities, their towns, their neighborhoods safe. And whenever you talk to them at the actual police level — whether we’re discussing New York, L.A., Baltimore, Chicago — they’re appalled by the narrative about cops at the national level, that Democrats completely pander to.

And the fact that you’re looking at another year here. We had a huge spike nationwide in murders in cities last year, and we’re looking to have another record level of murders nationwide and shootings this year. And they’re still talking about police “reform.” Democrats think that that’s the solution. “Oh, if only the cops were a little more polite, so many other people that aren’t cops would stop shooting each other?” This is madness.

CLAY: It is. And to your point, I know ’cause I hear from some of these guys on a regular basis. There are right now police officers in all 50 states listening to our show, nodding along because they see it on the ground day in and day out. How would it feel if you busted your ass as a police officer to catch and arrest someone who was a clear and present danger to your community, and then an idiot judge or an idiot DA puts them right back on the street.

And next thing you know they’ve committed another crime; they have another victim? It’s infuriating to these guys ’cause you’re telling them the job that they’re doing, “We’re not going to support your efforts to make your community safer.” And these guys see it all day long, every day, and then they hear it from the community that surrounds them. And then they turn on the news or they pick up a newspaper, and they are the most hated people. Remember, they canceled the television show Cops —

BUCK: Yep.

CLAY: — because it was too positive in its reflection of police officers?

BUCK: Shameful pandering to the anti-cop narrative that happened last year. It was awful, and there were some Republicans who went along with it.

CLAY: Oh yeah.

BUCK: Some people aren’t gonna want to hear this but there were some people in the Trump White House who also went along with it. Not Trump himself, but there were people around him who were saying, “Oh, yeah, let’s push that police reform bill,” just absolutely making the whole situation worse. But let’s get down to the actual at that time that we can use on this.

Okay so murders are up. Shootings are up. We all know that and it’s every major city across the country pretty much I’m sure we could find a couple outliers but pretty much. We really should be looking at where we are now versus where we are pre-pandemic to get a sense of what the numbers actually looked like then. But by a nine-to-one margin…

This was a USA Today/Suffolk University/Detroit Free Press poll that just came out over the weekend, Clay. Nine to one, the residents of Detroit say they will find feel safer with more cops on the street. Nine to one. Okay? You look at numbers. You can’t get nine to one to agree on a whole lot in this country.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And it’s worth noting that Detroit — which has unfortunately year in year out a pretty high per capita homicide rate — is a city that has also experienced bad numbers in that regard during covid. It’s about 80% African-American. So 90% of the city overall, which happens to be an 80% African-American majority city, are saying, “More cops are make us feel safer.” You know who pushes BLM, cowards who make millions of dollars a year to live in gated communities or on the Upper West Side of Manhattan or wherever who work at CNN. They love BLM narratives.

CLAY: I’m reading from the Wall Street Journal. Over the weekend, I believe, this article went up building on what we were just talking about. Again, this is the actual data. In 70 cities and counties that account for a fifth of the U.S. population, the murder rate rose there by 35%. That’s a monster number all right? But it’s gonna blow your mind, this data here.

The largest previous increase on record from one year to the next was 13% in 1968. Think about that for a minute. We have never seen the murder rate skyrocket like it did in 2020 — and, oh, by the way, it’s continued to grow in many places in 2021. A 35% increase, more by nearly triple than the largest previous increase on record, which was 13% in 1968.

I don’t know how you can hear that and in any way support (laughing) anything other than funding more police. We need, I think… What was the thing, back in the day? We need 100,000 more cops. Wasn’t that the number back in the nineties that they put on the streets — and, not surprisingly, crime decreased almost immediately.

BUCK: ‘Cause everybody got sick of it and we reached a point as a society where you’d get shouted down for the anti-cop garbage. Early nineties, God bless them, here in New York City a lot of black pastors spoke out in the early nineties in support of the Giuliani… I’m sorry, not the early nineties. When Giuliani took over, the mid-nineties, I can’t remember the exact year now. But in support of the Giuliani crime policies when he was mayor, bottom line. They actually were saying it.

CLAY: And Bloomberg.

BUCK: By the time Bloomberg came along it was kind of like, “Do we want a safe clean city in New York or do we want something else?”

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: You know what I mean? “Do we want clean safe streets or do we want…?” So the miracle had already happened in a sense but there were leaders in the black community who spoke out in defense of what we all know. Everybody wants which is safer, better streets for all of us and, you know, communities for all of us to be living in. And it’s just so frustrating because, Clay, some things are complicated. We could open up the lines here and have really in-depth, multitier discussions about decisions made when it comes to the War on Terror, you know, Afghanistan, Iraq war.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: How do we deal with the illegal immigrant communities in this can you answer that’s been here for 20 years. There are things that could be really nuanced and there’s a lot of discussion. When you have an open border, by choice, and when you have an anti-police narrative, by choice, and have a disaster at the border and a disaster with crime increases?

This is right at the feet of the Democrat Party. These are decisions that they made. And we are suffering the obvious consequences of them. And everyone needs to know that because the only corrective here is for the Democrats to suffer when it comes to their power as a result.

CLAY: And let’s just go back into that number again for the increase: 35% murder rate, largest since 1968 when it went up 13% in a year over year basis. Who are the people that are bearing the brunt of the massive increase in murder? If BLM is true, then black lives are being sacrificed at the altar of Defund the Police.

Because over half of all murder victims in the United States are black, even though black people represent only around 12.5% of the overall population. So the unfortunate irony here is the people who bear the brunt of the increase in crime at the absolute worst level of crime you can have, which is murder, are black.

And that is the group overwhelm in Detroit that is saying, “We need more cops on our street to protect us,” and that is not a unique-to-Detroit perspective. Vast majorities of that Americans — white, black, Asian, and Hispanic — all over this country want more, not less, police.

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Get Woke, Go Broke: Olympic Edition

26 Jul 2021

Buck joshed, “The French Olympic male basketball win brings to mind that when France beats us at anything that’s not involving fatty pastries or stinky cheese, we’re in trouble.”

However, Clay and Buck and their feisty callers agreed that why we’re really in trouble with the Olympics and all other sports is no joking matter – or even about which team is better. Rather, it is the even deeper descent into “Go Woke, Go Broke,” which is simply a major turnoff that has people turning off their viewing devices in record numbers.

“The Olympics are tanking. Are you watching? Or do you think they’re un-American?” Clay queried. Callers, as you’ll hear below gave touching (regarding their childhood memories) and angry replies (being fed up) with way-out wokeness in all sports.

During the show, Clay noted Olympic champ Michael Phelps was TV network commentating at that moment and Clay had the impromptu reaction he said sums up his stance on wokeness in sports, “I didn’t care what Michael Phelps thought about abortion in America, I just wanted him to be the world’s best swimmer.”

Clay may have been years ahead of the curve on damage from wokeness in sports but now thinks many Americans are so repelled that “they there are a lot of red-blooded, waving-the-flag Americans that either don’t care about the Olympics this year, or are even rooting against some of the woke athletes out there, even though they’re fellow Americans.”

For those not yet woke to the true dynamics behind the get woke-go broke connection, Clay rang the alarm clock.

“I’ve been saying you go woke you get broke in the world of athletics for a long time,” he reminded. “That’s the natural reaction. And let me just explain this thesis for people out there who may not have worked through it. Sports, the idea is to appeal to every single person out there, regardless of their race, their religion, their ethnicity, their sexuality. That’s what Michael Jordan represented. That’s what Tiger Woods represented. And really it is the phrase “Republicans Buy Sneakers Too,” which Jordan has admitted he said, represented the desire to appeal to everyone in becoming a global icon. And I believe that LeBron James, Colin Kaepernick, Megan Rapinoe, athletes of that ilk, have destroyed that universal appeal.”

Clay was so ahead of that curve that he used Jordan’s phrase as his bestselling book title, along with the apropos subtitle, “How the Left Is Ruining Sports with Politics.”

Buck gave as a current disturbing example the ruckus over the German women’s gymnastics team’s, instead of bikini-style bottoms, wearing unitards at the Olympics to take a political stand rather than just the physical stances athletics fans expect from their sport.

Buck wanted to know if anyone – the woke or unwoke – was even staying awake during the Olympics.

C&B’s charged-up callers were – but mainly just long enough to become disgusted by ruinations by radicalized athletes. Listen here:

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EIB 24/7: Clay & Buck’s Stack of Stuff

26 Jul 2021

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    23 Jul 2021

    “Mask maniacs live in fear that someone somewhere is breathing clean air,” Buck wisely assessed. Clay and Buck and lots of fiery parent callers want to do something about those trolls in your kids’ school hallways depriving them of that basic right.

    Chris from Broward County, Florida, won’t take it sitting down like a compliant student. He opened up a charged-up Open Line Friday by declaring victory so far in his region over this potential “child abuse.”

    “Down here in Broward County on Tuesday, the school board will meet to decide whether or not they’re going to force these kids to wear masks again. This child abuse has been going on for a very long time. And while other areas in Florida have lifted up on it, down here in what I like to call the commie counties in South Florida, they have continued to push the masks on these kids. And I want to say, we had a great turnout in the Palm Beach school board meeting last week, and guess what? They backed down.”

    Chris encouraged parents nationwide to take his lead and to “show up. When these parents show up, when you come out and you come in to that school board meeting in a huge group, they will back down. And let me tell you, these are the kind of people that listen to Fauci. These are the kind of people that listen to the Communist Disease Center. And guess what? They back down.”

    Not only is he burning mad about the non-science backed rights deprivation to your kids, he’ll be burning masks as well. His group has already talked to local police about a protest in front of some school board offices before they go in and share their parental concerns at another meeting.

    Clay, parent of three school-aged kids, sympathized. “I think the fired-up nature of a lot of parents out there, if their kids are gonna be forced to wear masks for another year, I think there are a lot of people out there that are done with it, that are going to fight like hell, like they’ve never fought before to try to stop this thing from happening.”

    Clay also warned parents not to just end up being so grateful that their kids could go back to school after being locked up at home that they don’t push back against authoritarian “non-science backed” mask mandates.

    Chelsea in Austin was fired up about the lack of science and her athlete daughter who never contracted covid being part of the thousands of kids who really were scientific proof that kids don’t need masks.

    Buck said to Chelsea, who knows, her daughter might have had “the sniffles” that could have been covid but it being so mild in most kids that’s another reason not to require masks in schools.

    Listen to Chelsea, Chris and the other charged-up parents who lit up C&B’s fiery Open Line Friday:

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    Clay’s Olympic Prediction, Buck in Hot Water Polo

    23 Jul 2021

    CLAY: Buck, I saw something you tweeted earlier this week that I was really entertained by. The U.S. women’s soccer team — which, by the way, in 2015 when they won the women’s World Cup, I was in Vancouver. I took my family. They were as beloved an American sports team as there could be. Everybody loved the U.S. women.

    Over the last several years, their overall approval rating, I think it’s fair to say — in the United States of America — has plummeted substantially. They lost 3-0 to Sweden after kneeling yet again, and you said, Buck Sexton, you were rooting for Sweden! You have abandoned the U.S. women, almost based entirely on politics I’m presuming and you actually seeing them lose, the women’s soccer team.

    BUCK: Absolutely. Go Sweden. Fantastic to see those ladies win. I gotta say, not a hard team to root for, as a guy.

    CLAY: Good-looking women on the Swedish team?

    BUCK: Uhhh…

    CLAY: You might have noticed?

    BUCK: I can neither confirm nor deny, but I’m just saying.

    CLAY: I think it’s offensive to judge women by their looks now, Buck. How sexist of you to even notice a good-looking woman.

    BUCK: I was pretty astounded that even in this current era, Boris Becker — who is one of the tennis greats, and I did watch a fair amount of tennis growing up. He referred to a player’s girlfriend at Wimbledon —

    CLAY: Fiancee.

    BUCK: — fiancee — as “pretty,” and there were people who were upset by this.

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: Yeah. This is utter madness.

    CLAY: It’s happened a few years ago. Brent Musburger. One of the Alabama quarterbacks’ girlfriends was in the crowd, and he said something like, “Man, you quarterbacks, you all get the best-looking girls.” She’s a good-looking woman. And, by the way, quarterbacks do tend to do pretty well with girls, based on all of recorded history of sports.

    I actually remember, Buck, when I was a kid; I remember we got to sit down close for an Atlanta Braves game, I think it was. I was probably about 10 or 11, and I looked around. There were a ton of really good-looking women. And I said to my dad, “Why are there so many really pretty women here?” And he said, “Well, this is a lot of the players’ wives,” and I remember saying, “Oh, so baseball players in the Major Leagues, they have good-looking wives?” And my dad said, “Yeah, they do pretty well for themselves.” It’s kind of funny.

    BUCK: This is also known as “observing objective reality around you.”

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: You’re not allowed to do this anymore. (chuckles) I’d note that our friend Jesse Kelly, who’s also on our network. He put out — did you see — his list of the 10 most attractive members of Congress?

    CLAY: Oh, my gosh. When did that happen?

    BUCK: That was yesterday.

    CLAY: Oh, that’s funny.

    BUCK: He put out a list. It may have been — and I’m quoting here — the 10 hottest women in Congress. I can’t remember exactly the verbiage, but it was basically attractive members of Congress.

    CLAY: He should have put two dudes in there and just blown everybody’s mind, especially if he had a guy as the hottest member of Congress. How terrible! How dare he notice good-looking women!

    BUCK: I just thought you’re allowed to say nice things.

    CLAY: Yeah. If he had listed the 10 ugliest women, or —

    BUCK: We got about to radio hosts here with good hair.

    CLAY: Yeah. Yeah.

    BUCK: So when people come up to the street they say, “Hey, I like your radio show, but you’ve got good hair,” that makes my day, probably my week.

    CLAY: (chuckling)

    BUCK: People come up to you and say, “Hey, you’re a sports radio host, but you’re an athletic looking guy and you got a lovely wife,” and we like nice things. Anyway, I’m trying to tell everybody: Can’t we all just take a compliment and roll with it? But we can’t even agree on mascots, Clay. That’s another thing, too.

    CLAY: Well, we’re gonna get to mascots. What percentage of people, do you think, are rooting against the U.S. women’s soccer team because they find them to be — and let me say this, by the way: Big picture. What is so frustrating to me about the U.S. women’s soccer team is they had an opportunity to use their platform in 2015 and in 2019 to point out that the reason they dominate, Buck…

    If you look at every women’s soccer match and just consider which country has freer women, you can basically pick the winner of the match. ‘Cause people say, “Well, how come the U.S. men are nowhere near as good as the U.S. women?” That’s because around the world most good male athletes get identified and they’re able to expend their athleticism to the fullest of their ability because men have advantages. But it’s not a surprise that our women would do better than women in, let’s say, Iran where they’re not even allowed to play outside of burqas, right, basically.

    BUCK: Right.

    CLAY: This is not a big surprise that girls who can wear shorts… It’s kind of a decent symbol that they might be better. Instead, they ripped America instead of trying to lift up the world to believe in American ideals.

    BUCK: If you taking the knee, I’m rooting against you, and it’s really what it comes down. You take a knee; I’m rooting against you. That’s just how it’s gonna go from here on out and whether that’s as a league or as a team or as an individual, because I’m sorry. Actually, I’m not. I’m sorry I’m not sorry and it’s disrespectful. So, yeah, I was psyched to see the Swedish ladies doing well.

    CLAY: Crushed ’em.

    BUCK: And, maybe they should follow us on Twitter and Instagram.

    CLAY: (chuckling)

    BUCK: Maybe they should become fans of the show. I’m just putting it out there.

    CLAY: (laughing) We’re big in Sweden.

    BUCK: Huge in Sweden.

    CLAY: Huge in Sweden! So you got that insanity that’s going on. So do you think…? We were talking about this. I’m not sure that there has ever been less interest in an Olympics, ’cause usually the Olympics is kind of a big deal, people come together, especially the summer Olympics because there been so many big, iconic stars. I feel like this is landing on deaf ears to a large extent. Do you have that sense too?

    BUCK: Yeah, and when you’ve got empty stadiums. Parts of this… We hearken back in our minds here all the way to ancient Rome and the Colosseum, the theatricality of these events at the Olympics. Obviously, Ancient Greece is where the Olympics started, but I was thinking Gladiator in my mind. You know, you think of these events that happen with massive crowds and the energy.

    And honestly, watching really fast people run when there’s no crowd there, it’s just a different spectator experience. It just feels like it has the same energy behind it. I think there’s also just a lot of people right now who feel like, “Is there the possibility that their weird covid restrictions could actually become a problem for some of these teams?” I’ll be honest with you: I’m not really a big Olympics, which is not a surprise to you I’m sure. But I’m a huge Olympic guy. I watched like the person who wins the fastest the 100-meter dash, whatever, that’s what I watch.

    CLAY: Yeah, and even that Usain Bolt, who is Jamaican, he’s retiring. Michael Phelps, who’s one of the greatest Olympians ever, people could have a rooting interest for him over the last whatever it is — 20 years, it feels like — that he’s been representing the United States.

    And then you toss in what I think is a pretty significant factor: The time difference of what time it is in Japan versus the United States, and I just feel like these are going to be… This is my prediction. I think this is going to be the least-watched Olympics that has ever existed in the United States, because for so long this was something that united everyone.

    I think there are a lot of people out there listening to us right now that are with you and not rooting for the U.S. women over politics and statements that they’re making. But also, I think that there’s just a general despair about the idea of how many women are going to and men are going to protest, and people are saying, “I just don’t have time for it.”

    BUCK: Do you know the trampoline is an Olympic event? I was just checking this.

    CLAY: No, I didn’t.

    BUCK: Trampoline. I think water polo is… I think watching water polo may be the most boring spectator sport. That’s right, water polo fans! You can come at me; I’ll take it. Come on. I can’t even see what’s going on. I’m looking at the list of all the different sports that they have.

    CLAY: I have ’em by popularity. Let me see if I can get you to guess. What do you think the most anticipated event is at the Tokyo Olympics?

    BUCK: Basketball!

    CLAY: No.

    BUCK: Really?

    CLAY: Basketball is… This is the Morning Consult, a poll that they did of Americans, the most anticipated events at the Olympics. I’ll give you the hint here. Basketball is sixth.

    BUCK: Okay.

    CLAY: Sixth on the sports list.

    BUCK: That’s much lower than I thought it would have been. I mean, I love tennis, but that’s probably not even the top 10.

    CLAY: Tennis is 10.

    BUCK: Okay. Well, see, I was pretty close.

    CLAY: Yeah.

    BUCK: I have… Honestly, is it track and field?

    CLAY: Track and field is fourth.

    BUCK: What’s number one? You’re keeping me guessing.

    CLAY: Number one, I think you’ll get it. When I say it, you’ll say, “Oh, yeah, that makes sense.” Gymnastics. Right. There is a massive… Does that surprise you?

    BUCK: That does surprise me. I wouldn’t think gymnastics would be the number one.

    CLAY: Gymnastics destroys everything else. Two, second most beloved or anticipated event at the Tokyo Olympics, is swimming, which surprised me a little bit. I would have gotten gymnastics. I wouldn’t have gotten swimming.

    BUCK: These are for Americans, right?

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: I think we’ve gotten used to it, because Michael Phelps is just in this other category —

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: — of winner, that I think that’s what’s made swimming so popular for us ’cause we just love those metals. We’re Americans! We like winning.

    CLAY: This surprised me too. Third most popular: Diving, which feels like it’s kind of swimming. But it is kind of cool to watch when those super high dives, how perfect people land in the water. Also the fact that you convince yourself that you know what a good dive is and what a dive is not.

    BUCK: That’s, to me — ’cause these are also events where the fastest runner, there’s not a judge deciding. This is just reality.

    CLAY: Right. Yes. Yes.

    BUCK: So these are things are the judges are making determinations about who’s best. It’s subjective. Let’s be honest. Gymnastics is a subjective event. Diving is a subjective event. That’s interesting to me.

    CLAY: Track and field, which you got, is four. This one also surprised me. Basketball, you got at six. Beach volleyball.

    BUCK: Oh, yes. Ohhh, yes.

    CLAY: There’s a lot of good-looking girls. I think that probably factors in.

    BUCK: You don’t have to say these things out loud, buddy! (chuckling)

    CLAY: I say it out loud!

    BUCK: (laughing)

    CLAY: I say it out loud. I tell people what’s good.

    BUCK: Maybe I appreciate it despite —

    CLAY: Men play beach volleyball, too.

    BUCK: Well, that’s… Yes. By the way, do we have ratings on which one is more watched?

    CLAY: Oh, I bet women beach volleyball is way more watched than men.

    BUCK: I would agree.

    CLAY: Here’s the question as we get ready to go to break; I’ll come back. What are the least popular sports, according to Americans that they are least interested in? I doubt very many people will guess these, but I will tell you the sports that Americans are not interested in watching. I gave you the top five or six.

    BUCK: I think my beloved table tennis, also known as ping-pong, is probably on that list.

    CLAY: No.

    BUCK: ‘Cause I am, for an amateur, freakishly good at ping-pong and it makes me very sad that that’s one that doesn’t get the proper love in this country that I think —

    CLAY: Should we bring in the crew and let them guess? Ali is texting me right now.

    BUCK: Oh, yeah, no. I’d love to hear from our team here, the EIB Network squad.

    CLAY: Yes. Let’s bring in the EIB squad, and we will see if any of them can get one of the three least popular sports at the Olympics.

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    BUCK: Clay and I are getting into the Olympic situation here, and we’ll have got our EIB team that is telling us what is the least watched of the Olympic sports, the least popular, at least by viewership. Producers Ali, Greg, Mojo, Crash, Dub, all weighing in. Ali says fencing. Greg, it is skateboarding. Mojo says, speed walking. Dub says handball. I guess it all depends on shorts. Crash says… Do you see that? There was a controversy ’cause some of the ladies wouldn’t wear the shorts.

    CLAY: I did see that which is kind of crazy.

    BUCK: And Crash says the marathon because it’s exhausting. I think the marathon’s actually fun to watch. You just gotta watch the very end of it, though. But on person. I’ve never watched it on TV, to be fair.

    CLAY: So here are the…? So was it Ali who said fencing?

    BUCK: Yes.

    CLAY: That is the fifth least popular, according to Americans, sport that is out there. Here are the bottoms — and, by the way, your water polo is the sixth least popular sport.

    BUCK: Yeees. Take that! Take that!

    CLAY: Counting down, handball. Dub, I think said, handball. It is the fourth least popular here. Modern pentathlon. I’m not even sure exactly what is in the pentathlon.

    BUCK: Is that you swim, you ski, you shoot? Isn’t that all the different things?

    CLAY: I don’t even know. I don’t know what is the modern pentathlon. I don’t know what they do. That sounds accurate. I think there’s five, right, pentathlon?

    BUCK: You’re the sports guy! (laughing)

    CLAY: But I don’t know the pentathlon.

    BUCK: Clay Travis has to know everything about sports.

    CLAY: I think it’s the five events. I don’t know what the five events would be in the pentathlon. Field hockey! Do men play that?

    BUCK: Yes.

    CLAY: I don’t think men play field hockey.

    BUCK: Men play field hockey, sir.

    CLAY: Really?

    BUCK: It’s big in South Asia. Oh, yes.

    CLAY: Oh, I didn’t know that.

    BUCK: Yeah. Pakistan, they play it.

    CLAY: I know girls play in America. But we don’t play field hockey in America, do we? Men?

    BUCK: I mean, that all depends.

    CLAY: Women are…? I know it’s a big sport for women, especially on the East Coast. But I don’t remember there being men who play field hockey. I always thought that… Well, I don’t know. I don’t think we do. And then the least popular, the least popular… It kind of surprised me. The Rugby Sevens is the least popular American Olympic sport, according to this. These are the most anticipated. Maybe there’s some that are not included here, but those are the least anticipated events in this graphic that I am looking at.

    BUCK: I’m surprised. I’ve never been a rugby watcher in general. Rugby Sevens, is that a specific kind of rugby? Is it like seven on seven?

    CLAY: I’m assuming it’s seven on seven. But I don’t know. I don’t even know how many people are usually on a rugby team. Yeah. Dub says seven-man rugby team. By the way, the pentathlon, Buck, is fencing, swimming, equestrian, pistol shooting, and running. That’s a pretty crazy collection of events.

    BUCK: I was not that far off. So that’s kind of close.

    CLAY: Pistol shooting! I didn’t know that. That’s kind of wild.

    BUCK: Yeah. I didn’t know that. Well, yeah, I didn’t know that was a part of it. I’d also say that whenever you watch… If you were like me, if you grew up watching karate movies and then you actually see the Olympic sport —

    CLAY: And by karate movies you mean Karate Kid?

    BUCK: Well, no, no, no. Are you kidding me?

    CLAY: You mean the Bruce Lee movies back in the day?

    BUCK: I celebrate Jean-Claude Van Damme’s whole catalogue, Buddy.

    CLAY: Okay, that’s right. That’s right.

    BUCK: We could have a whole martial arts conversation here.

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: But, yeah, the karate in the Olympics is not as cool, unfortunately.

    CLAY: Rugby usually has, by the way, 15 people on it.

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    BUCK: I gotta let Charles from North Carolina in here, ’cause he’s got a bone to pick. What’s up Charles? Welcome.

    CALLER: Hey, guys! Hey, just want to let you know: In a few short weeks you guys have made me a fan. So I’m enjoying the show quite a bit because of your work.

    BUCK: Thank you.

    CALLER: But I had to take issue with your disparaging comments about water polo because any man or woman who plays water polo will take you out! Very strong, very athletic, very capable. I was a gymnast and a water polo athlete, and the water polo is much harder that gymnasts was.

    CLAY: Yeah, I agree. I think Buck’s in trouble. You’re gonna be walking down the street in New York. Out of nowhere, door opens; water polo players are just gonna flatten you.

    CALLER: (laughing)

    BUCK: I was gonna say, first of all, water polo ladies, I’m sure, are absolutely fantastic. And, Charles, I wasn’t saying that it’s not a difficult sport or that it’s not that you guys are hard-core. I rowed crew in college, believe it or not, which is misery but also very good for you. But watching it is not the most… I meant from a specter perspective, you can’t see what’s going on in water polo. It looks like a lot of splashing, one of those aerobicized classes for some folks in the water that what it looks like.

    CALLER: That’s true. (unintelligible)

    CLAY: I don’t think you’re helping yourself here.

    BUCK: I know. I’m drowning on this one.

    CLAY: Now you’re comparing it to aerobics instructors?

    BUCK: I’m drowning on water polo.

    CLAY: Oh, well, yeah.

    BUCK: It’s true.

    CLAY: Maybe the next time you go swimming —

    BUCK: Charles?

    CLAY: — I’m telling you, they’re gonna drag you down into the water.

    BUCK: Charles, if somehow, I don’t show up for the show one day and they find a yellow water polo ball next to my head on the street and I’m knocked out —

    CALLER: (laughing) Yeah.

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: — we’ll know what happened but thank you for calling.

    CALLER: Yeah.

    BUCK: Thank you for calling in, man. We appreciate it.

    CLAY: Your boy Will Cain is a former water polo player, I believe, at Pepperdine. He’s gonna definitely take out.

    BUCK: He’s gonna take me… But, no, does he agree with me that it’s not a good spectator sport?

    CLAY: I don’t know. It’s a good question. Is it fun to watch on TV? Didn’t we win, like, the gold medal in water polo ’cause we brought over an eastern European beast of a coach?

    BUCK: Clay, you’re the sports guy, and you don’t even know.

    CLAY: I don’t know Olympic team!

    BUCK: Listen to this. Next thing, people are gonna find out that you actually played soccer, too.

    CLAY: I did.

    BUCK: You frisky fellow.

    CLAY: I did play.

    BUCK: That’s right. He’s a stealth soccer player.

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    D.C. Crime Hits Home for Limousine Libs

    23 Jul 2021

    BUCK: Clay, can I just…? I used to live in D.C. I’ve lived in D.C. twice. You used to live in D.C.

    CLAY: I lived in D.C. for four years, college.

    BUCK: Yeah. So I lived in D.C. for the CIA, and then I went back and I launched Hill.TV a few years ago at The Hill, and 14th Street is where everybody goes to drink and restaurants, and it’s a really popular spot, and I saw last night on Twitter. I was at home and preparing for today’s show because that’s pretty much what I do. I do radio or I prep for radio and occasionally I sleep.

    CLAY: Yeah.

    BUCK That’s basically my life, and I’m looking around, and I see that it’s bright out. There’s still obviously lights, so it’s really late. And just pop, pop, pop! A whole bunch of shots firing off on video, people have captured this, right on 14th Street near the restaurant Le Diplomate, which is a place that a lot of… I mean, Biden loves it.

    It’s one of the spots. People call it “Le Dip.” It’s one of the hip places in D.C. if you’re one of the people that cares about going out for fancy meals to go. So this would be very much like having a shooting in daylight hours with 15 or 20 rounds. Two people hit, by the way. Some people were shot.

    It wasn’t even just rounds going off. And all of a sudden, Clay, there were these journos that I’ve seen talk about how violence is not really rising, it’s not really bad. Their initial tweets were, “Oh, well, this is serious now!”

    CLAY: (laughing)

    BUCK: “Oh, when there are shots fired and it’s Le Fancy Man, then we got a problem.”

    CLAY: Not only that, this combines with the shooting at the Washington Nationals, right outside of the baseball stadium that led to a panic inside of the Nat stadium. This really goes to Democratic hypocrisy, I think, in many ways, which is: Crime, as long as you don’t see it, is not really an issue.

    And, fortunately, if you live in neighborhoods with low crime rates, it hasn’t been as tangible of a reality. But what happens as crime increases is the number of places that crime is occurring expands and maybe you’re otherwise, in quotation marks, “safe” neighborhood or your favorite restaurant or your favorite sports franchise?

    You have the luxury of not having to worry about crime very often the more money that you have, and all of a sudden these limousine liberals who’ve been saying, “Oh the crime issue is exaggerated! Let’s defund the police. Let’s actually make sure that we’re not in any way overexaggerating a problem.” Boom! A few gunshots go off and they hear ’em, and all of a sudden, “Boy, we gotta really think about this crime issue, Buck!”

    BUCK: Remember Irving Kristol? “A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality.” Well, in this case it’s actually just conservatives are sometimes people who used to be liberals who have been mugged.

    CLAY: Yeah.

    BUCK: They’ve actually just gone through that very situation of dealing with crimes themselves.

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    Schumer’s Disingenuous Smears

    23 Jul 2021

    CLAY: Jim Jordan. Man, he gets a lot out in a relatively short period of time, really good dude. I appreciate him coming on and hanging out with us. And when you hear him talk and how smooth and efficient and effective he is at making arguments, you kind of get a sense of what’s really at play here as the January 6th investigation continues to play itself out. Chuck Schumer, of course, said there wasn’t absolutely no doubt there was no way for Jim Jordan, that he could be a member of this committee. Let’s listen to good old Chuck.

    SCHUMER: So, Speaker Pelosi had no choice but to move on her own, as she did, and she put together a commission. Um, I couldn’t believe that, uh, McC — Leader McCarthy put two people who said… Who basically who really didn’t believe — sort of supported the big lie that did all this, you know, that the election was stolen and Donald Trump should really be president, which has no factual basis.

    So, she was right not to let them stay on the commission. And I still believe what she put together, while a bipartisan nine (sputters) nonpartisan 9/11 Commission would have been better, better to have this and it has, you know, Liz Cheney on it. She’s hardly a Democrat, but she’s a seeker of truth. We need to get to the bottom of this! There are so many unanswered questions, and one of the most serious assaults on our democracy that’s happened in our whole history.

    BUCK: I gotta tell you, Chuck Schumer is actually impressive, Clay, because to be that disingenuous, that slimy as a politician all at once. Oh, yeah, Liz Cheney’s a truth-seeker. That’s why they like Liz Cheney. Maybe they could just bring on the folks from the Lincoln Project to tell us what the conservative base thinks these days. This is stupid beyond words.

    But I also love that Pelosi does something unprecedented, petty, and spiteful, but, Clay, she had no choice. There was no choice when she made the choice to do this thing that no one ever does on these committees. So McCarthy pulled all of his nominees; now you get into this childish back-and-forth.

    But here’s the thing. It has to all be about the drama because it’s not about the facts. The January 6th Commission is, as I said at BuckSexton.com today, an unfunny joke. The whole thing! They’re not even releasing the video they have from inside the Capitol. Let us see what happened. Let us see the terrifying grannies walking around taking selfies inside.

    CLAY: That, first of all, should happen, right? But I love playing clips of people who are guests on this show, and this come on, and they’re eminently reasonable, and you listen to ’em and you say, “You know what? That’s…” You can agree or disagree with political opinion. That’s the great thing about politics. My mom always used to say, “Opinions are like butts; everybody’s got one.”

    So you can agree or disagree with whatever opinions are out there. But when these guys get attacked like happened with Rand Paul when we play Joy Behar, we play Chuck Schumer here talking about Jim Jordan, you see how unfair the attacks often are. Jim Jordan’s perspective is not radical on January 6th. It’s just, “Hey, the guys should be punished who did something wrong.” That’s it.

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