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Kamala Blames Trump for the Border Crisis

28 Jun 2021

CLAY: We have also got the continued fallout from Kamala Harris. We’ll have the president of the United States, 45 himself, Donald Trump, on the show with us in the second hour tomorrow. He will be the first guest ever on The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show.

BUCK: Can I just say that Kamala’s trip to the border didn’t exactly change the narrative about how well she is handling all this stuff or how the Biden administration’s doing it in general. In a classic moment… What’s the move? You’re a Democrat. You have the media in your back pocket. They’re never going to be honest no matter how apparent the failure is of the Biden policies at the border. So what does she do?

She says, “Well, it’s Trump’s fault!” Play clip 8.

HARRIS: Our administration — it is important to be clear — is working to build a fair and a functional and a humane immigration system. I feel very strongly about that. And, as you know, we inherited a tough situation. Um, in fact, right here in El Paso was the — the — the — the launch of the child-separation policy. You saw it as it rolled out on the ground in real time. Um, we have looked at a — a — a — system where, uh, people have been housed in inhumane conditions over the last many years — um, an asylum system that has been broken. And that needs to be reconstructed.

BUCK: I just want to say that she’s showing emotion, or trying to, and it’s about platitudes. It’s about how Trump was so bad on the border. What you don’t get from the border czar — and I think this is what’s the absolutely essential take-away — is, “What are you going to do to fix it?”

Saying you’re gonna call a meeting and then you’re gonna call another meeting about the meeting you called and maybe you’ll fly down to Guatemala or Honduras for a bilateral, diplomatic “who cares.” That’s not going to fix anything. She has no fix, Clay. Because they don’t want to fix it. This is the key point. They don’t want to fix the border.

CLAY: Yeah. And we’re gonna talk to Trump a lot about this tomorrow, Buck, because to me what she was trying to do is head off the storyline of Trump going to the border. But what she did was basically avoid all of the controversy, all of the chaos, all of the facilities that are presently overrun by effectively pretending that she was giving attention to this story.

BUCK: It was a totally perfunctory performance not based in a desire to actually make things better down there because she won’t — and we’ll continue to follow this story closely. Because once you see those numbers for the year for 2021, gonna be probably the most open the border’s ever been, at least in modern history, modern memory.

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Would You Let Bernie Run Your Popsicle Stand?

28 Jun 2021

SANDERS: So, what we have got to do is now invest in making sure that we have affordable housing in this country, that we have home health care for an aging population, that we’re able to expand Medicare so that we finally can cover dental care and hearing aids, uh, and eyeglasses, that we deal with the crisis in child care — with so many families, working families cannot afford child care.

Uh, and that, in addition to all of that, it’s absolutely imperative that we deal with it, I would say, existential threat to this planet of climate change. And when we do all that, when we invest in, uhhh, health care and in education, making higher education affordable, uh, when we invest in transforming our energy system, we’re gonna create millions more good-paying jobs.

VOICE: Yeah.

SANDERS: So, that’s what the president wants, that’s what you want, and I think that’s what we’re gonna see.

BUCK: Welcome back to The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. I’m Buck Sexton. And there you have Bernie Sanders, the socialist from Vermont, talking about creating millions of jobs. Does anybody think Bernie Sanders is good at this?

CLAY: (chuckling)

BUCK: Would you let Bernie Sanders run your popsicle stand? Would you let him run your Ben & Jerry’s outlet, for that matter? I think the answer is no. But, Clay, here we are being led to believe that Bernie knows. It’s never enough. This is what everyone needs to understand right now. There’s never enough money. They call it investment.

What they mean by that is really spending your children and your grandchildren’s money and putting it on the federal tab, which is now gonna be $30 trillion it feels like any moment now. It’s never enough spending, never enough government intervention in the markets. There’s always more that they think should be done. Whenever the program fails, what’s the reason?

They didn’t spend enough money, right? It’s very straightforward. When we should be thinking about how we get back to the dine any of them of the American economy and be leaning harder to capitalism, what’s the response of those who are supposed to be in charge of leading the economy out of this artificial recession as we’ve been discussing, the covid recession, which wasn’t even really a recession in many ways.

CLAY: At all.

BUCK: It ended up just being a pause in some economic activity while a lot of other stuff continued on. But look, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, these are the people, this is the brain trust at the top of the Democrat Party, and that’s why we’re limping out of this covid period in terms of the economy. It’s not as fast, not as robust as it should be. What is it, Yogi Berra, “deja vu all over again”? It’s coming all back to us now after what happened with Obama in the recession of 2009. A slow recovery because of government heavy-handed socialist nonsense.

CLAY: Yeah, and I think also, Buck, we have to market in here is this is not — and I think you said — a traditional recession. Never before have we intentionally stopped all economic activity and effectively paid people not to work. So how do you come out of that? Again, the data that I keep going to is households added $13.5 trillion in wealth last year.

I don’t think we can call this a recession when the overall wealth goes up like that. Couple of stats for you. The S&P 500 went up 29% in 2020, and in the Great Recession it was down 38.5%. This is not a traditional recession — and, remember, Donald Trump had set up the greatest economy in the history of our country when suddenly — in February and March of 2020, last year — we hit pause, and everything came undone.

BUCK: And just only some work actually stopped, right?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: That’s important to remember about this. While stay home for some people meant, “You no longer have a job,” for small business owners it meant, “Your life’s work may go up in smoke because of government…” ‘Cause I know they say there are PPP loans and there were these government assistance programs. But for a lot of, folks, that didn’t pay enough.

That didn’t cover everything you had to cover, and they just said, “I can’t wait this out.” But for all those different professions you talked about, it actually just meant getting rid of a commute and watching Fauci tell you to wear six masks on TV or else you’re a bad person. So let’s get calls. We’ve got a bunch. We’re gonna bring you in on this from all over telling us what you think, what you’re seeing in your industry/your business, because this is gonna be a big factor in the midterms and empower who’s gonna have power going forward.

CLAY: I don’t think there’s any doubt.

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Rush’s Timeless Wisdom: Capitalism

28 Jun 2021

BUCK: We were talking at the start of the show today about how we gotta get the business of the American people to be business again. We gotta get back to work. Gotta get rid of government policy that disincentivizes work because it hurts small businesses who are trying to staff up, get back in the game. It’s a major challenge. The Democrats are making things harder than they should be, that’s for sure.

Let’s lean on the wisdom of the one and only Rush Limbaugh here for a moment on what is capitalism and why is it so important.

RUSH: So, I got an email. “Rush, could you say something besides ‘capitalism’? You have to understand people have been trained to hate the word. People have been trained to oppose the word. They don’t even know what it means.”

That’s a fair point. Here’s what it is. We want an economic arrangement. We want a country. We want a society. We want a place where people provide what other people need and want as efficiently as possible and are rewarded for how well they do it. Meaning innovators invent products, they create new services, what have you, that people end up wanting or needing and are willing to pay for, if they’re priced fairly.

And that “priced fairly” results in the innovator being rewarded with a profit so that he can continue — or she — can continue to make and provide and earn a profit and then hire other people as the business grows. So, it’s all good. The Democrats don’t like that because in the midst of all that is self-reliance. The Democrats prefer to take from the people who work hard. They want to take from the innovator. They want to punish success on the basis that it isn’t fair that some people succeed and others don’t.

So, they want to take from the successful and give it to people who don’t want to bother with having to work for it, who don’t want to bother with having to earn it. And the Democrats cultivate that culture. They cultivate the culture of transfer of wealth. And if you destroy the wealth creators, if you disincentivize them, if you raise their taxes, if you take away their profit, then why should they continue to do what they do? And they are demonized. The Democrat Party, the American left, demonizes the successful, then sets about punishing them, and they want to be applauded for it.

Success feeds off of itself. And it is a great motivating factor. It’s what we’re all oriented toward. We all want to succeed until the Democrat Party gets hold of enough of us and convinces us that we can’t. You can’t succeed because of your race, your gender, your sexual orientation, the deck is stacked against you because America’s unfair, America’s racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobe, you don’t have a chance. That’s what the Democrat Party tells people. Turns ’em into victims. But this bunch, what we face on the other side of this election is even worse if these people win.

BUCK: And here we are, Clay, dealing with a country that it feels like is increasingly having to handle the reality of a Marxist… A Marxist fringe? No, no, perhaps a Marxist wing of the Democrat Party that is more openly in favor of redistribution of wealth socialism and democratic socialism, whatever they want to call it.

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    Clay and Buck Break Down the Infrastructure “Deal”

    25 Jun 2021

    BUCK: Clay and I talked to you yesterday about the infrastructure deal that was at least agreed to in principle. This is bipartisan — 10 senators, a bipartisan group. You’ve got an agreement to spend, I mean, it’s gonna be roughly half a trillion. You know, no big deal. They’ve got that in the couch cushions, right?

    I mean, who cares about having the printing presses just go and go with more and more cash getting spit out all the time? It’s not like inflation… Oh, no, inflation is already a problem, and it’s gonna get worse, by the way, but I want to just walk you through to look at a little bit of the back-and-forth that happened yesterday afternoon. At first Biden comes out, press conference, he’s all happy about it, and he goes we’ve got a deal. Play 23.

    BIDEN: We had a, uhhh, really good meeting. In answer to your direct question, we have a deal, and, uhhh, I think it’s really important. We’ve all agreed that, uh, none of us got what we (sputtering) all that we w-wanted. I clearly didn’t get all I wanted.

    BUCK: No one got everything they wanted. It sounds so moderate, doesn’t it? It sounds so much like Congress is doing the business of the people and Joe Biden, he’s taking a victory lap. The whole thing, it’s all… You almost get weepy about how promising this is for our republic.

    The problem with it is that a couple of hours after that you had Joe Biden, the commander-in-chief, coming out to let everybody know that that whole bipartisan deal, he’ll actually kill it! He’ll kill it, he’ll veto it, unless the crazy left-wing wish list of Pelosi and the gang gets through as well through (chuckles) reconciliation. Play 2.

    BIDEN: The bipartisan bill from the very beginning was understood, there’s gonna have be the second part of it! Not just signing the bipartisan bill and forgettin’ about the rest that I — that I proposed. I proposed a significant piece of legislation in three parts, and all — all — all three parts are equally important. (confused pause) And, by the way, my party, you keep… (sputtering) Everybody tell — t-t-t-tells me what my party is.

    My party’s divided. Well, my party is divided. My party’s divided, but my party’s also rational. If they can’t get every single thing they want, but all that they have in the bill that — that … uh, before them is good, are they gonna vote “no”? I don’t think so.

    BUCK: I love, Clay, this is what Democrats do. They redefine things. I would argue they’re redefining bipartisan to mean, “We agree on something; we go along.” This is Democrats and Republicans on this particular bill, at least in theory, right? This is all at the early stage. And then it is, but then we’re gonna ram through all the other stuff that you won’t go along with and say that the whole thing is bipartisan. It feels like a trap.

    CLAY: It feels like a trap. It also feels like it isn’t in any way bipartisan and that the Republicans aren’t getting anything. That would be my question if we had these senators who have agreed to this infrastructure bill. What exactly is their game of chess that they are attempting to play here? Because strategically, let’s just kind of look at the broad scope here.

    If they are dialing back what Joe Biden was going to spend on infrastructure, which it appears they are and they are somewhere meeting in the middle, but Joe Biden is simultaneously saying, “Unless I get everything else, basically, that I want in this other bill, then I’ll never sign this infrastructure bill,” strategically what have the Republican senators who have agreed to this actually accomplished?

    Are they afraid…? And I would love to hear their rationale. Are they afraid that through budget reconciliation, that the Democrats are going to get everything and they’re not worried about Joe Manchin or Kyrsten Sinema or any of those people actually pulling out of the 50-vote majority with Kamala Harris breaking the tie, and so they’re trying to cut a trillion dollars in spending out through this?

    I guess what I’m looking at is, to me, there has not been a very strong strategy elucidated for what the goal of the Republicans is here. The Democratic goal seems pretty clear. It’s that they can claim, as you said, Buck, that there is an element of bipartisanship here with the infrastructure element but then go ahead and ram through (chuckles) everything else that they want, and they can say, “See? We did bipartisan!

    “The infrastructure bill is bipartisan,” and then in the $6 trillion budget that Bernie Sanders has put together with all of his wish list, they can then claim that they’re not subverting the democratic process in some way by using reconciliation on that $6 trillion. I mean, do you feel like, Buck, that we’ve gotten a good explanation of why it makes sense in any way to be bipartisan on this infrastructure package?

    BUCK: Well, that’s a hundred percent true. It’s over half a trillion dollars on an infrastructure package when we’ve had to do all this spending already to get through covid, and then the Democrats already did the American Rescue Plan Act, which had all kinds of stuff in it. And just so everyone knows, what’s the part of this that Republicans won’t go along with?

    ‘Cause Democrats will say, “Well, they just wanted more money for roads and bridges,” right? So Republicans and Democrats on the bipartisanship piece of this, the infrastructure bill, it’s like, “Well, do you want the bridge to collapse under you? Do you want roads to be in terrible shape and you hit a pothole, it rips off your tire, maybe bends your alignment?”

    You know, no one wants that stuff, right? But then why won’t the Democrats just limit it to that? Well, because what they really want to throw in there is the radical Green New Deal, renewable energy stuff, and a lot of electric charging stations and child care and student loan forgiveness.

    It just turns into an excuse. Republicans are gonna end up giving cover for Democrats doing what is essentially modern monetary theory, which is just spending whatever you think you need to spend. That’s what the theory really boils down to which AOC and others are essentially devotees of.

    CLAY: And we still haven’t gotten what I think is the most significant part of this budget actually discussed very much, at least not in public. What’s gonna happen with the tax increases? Because I think there’s a ton of people out there listening to us right now that are wondering about that, too, because right now they’re talking about increasing the overall tax rate — crazily, to me.

    And this is one of the things in this budget bill of many that I think deserves way more discussion. They are talking about making the capital gains tax retroactive, Buck. This has only happened once basically in American history. And this is me being involved in the business side of things. This is totally illogical.

    They said, starting on April 28th — any deal that basically had not closed by April 28th — they’re going to double, effectively, the capital gains tax rate. But you know how long these deals take to work through. The idea that you can get a big deal down in a couple months or that you can retroactively go back and change the law as it pertains to people selling their stocks, as it pertains to people selling businesses, as it pertains to overall business decisions being made in general.

    I don’t know how aggressively the Republicans are gonna try to hold the line on the 2017 Donald Trump tax decreases, both corporate tax and individual tax. But that’s the reason why the economy was on fire in a very positive way before covid happened. I think we need to go back in time a little bit and talk about the economy ’cause there’s gonna be a big argument here that we’re gonna have a Biden boom, right?

    We’re gonna have a 7% growth rate or whatever the forecasts are gonna be in 2021. But remember, before the covid shutdowns, we had the lowest black, Asian, Hispanic, and white unemployment rates in the history of the country. We had the fastest growth that we had seen in forever. The Trump economic policies were on fire, Buck. And now we’re gonna go back and reverse those and just start throwing money like crazy it all of this government expenditure? It’s nonsensical.

    BUCK: And you can already see what the narrative is gonna be. The same way that when… ‘Cause in many ways, this is the third term of the Obama administration, just with Biden —

    CLAY: As the figurehead.

    BUCK: — as the figurehead, right? And what you see here is the narrative — and there’s some historical luck in this, I guess you could say — that Obama comes into office after the Great Recession of 2008. In large part, I think you could say maybe won because of what happened in 2008, and then for the next two years it was, “Look where we were; look where we are now.”

    Well, of course it’s going to be better. Unless you have the actual meltdown and collapse of the global economy, you’re going to come out of that recession, but it was the slowest recovery, as we know — the slowest recovery, in the first Obama term, since World War II. That was pretty remarkable data if you want look at how the Democrat plans actually played out and compare it to something.

    But if you could just compare it to your worst month, it’s obviously going to look better, and there was a particular period there where the economy in 2008 was really shaky. Fast-forward to now. You had a covid artificial recession, essentially — a recession caused not by cyclical economic forces, not by people overspending on houses or the wrap-up of all the mortgages and the commodification of it by Wall Street.

    What you had was people staying home because of covid. We all know, right? No one needs an explanation of that. We all just lived it. Well, anything is gonna be better than that. So what we have to do is make sure everyone sees that the argument here isn’t that the economy isn’t growing, because of course it’s gonna grow compared to 2020.

    It’s, is it unnecessarily stalling out or dipping down and is inflation really starting to chip away at people who rely on wages and savings and trying to build savings? But that’s a tough case, especially when you have the media in your pocket. They’re just gonna say, “It’s better than 2020, isn’t it?”

    CLAY: It’s also the case — and I think this is one that we need to continue to hammer — that there are 9.3 million open jobs right now, Buck. There are a lot of people out there listening to us running small businesses at work. They can’t open their restaurants. They can’t open their manufacturing plants for the full scope of what they would like to be able to accomplish.

    Because this is the most jobs we’ve ever had available in the history of this country: 9.3 million open. There are more open jobs than there are people seeking work. And we’re continuing to give people unemployment benefits such that in 19 blue states right now, an unemployed mom and a dad — couple, married couple — can make over $100,000 a year right now, Buck, by not working at all.

    And so, to your point on the recovery and how limited is been in scope so far and how slowly it is moving, it’s because people are being incentivized not to work, which is slowing the overall engine. And, meanwhile, we’re pouring money in, which is why I think you can make a strong argument that while it may be the third term of the Obama administration, it’s also the second term of Jimmy Carter. Potentially we’re going back in time to what happened in the 1970s.

    BUCK: I know it’s tough to get people that excited these days. (chuckles) And I don’t mean excited in a good way. I mean get them that engaged on the debt, which is gonna be $30 trillion before we blink our eyes, it feels like, and inflation. But just remember, monetary policy that leads to inflation like what we’re seeing?

    Spending that leads to inflation, which is already happening, is, essentially, a tax on working-class people, middle-class people, their wages. They don’t own assets in the same way that those who are more well off do. Their wages go less far, prices hurt them more. This stings.

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    Law Enforcement Officers Call Us About the Dem War on Police

    25 Jun 2021

    A front-page article in the New York Times talks about a massive issue that is facing our country right now, not only the crime wave — with the murder rate up 30% last year, and up an additional 24% this year. But all over the country wherever you’re listening to us, crime is skyrocketing and police are so disrespected now because of the defund the police movement that they are bailing in a massive way.

    According to this from the New York Times article, law enforcements retirements were up 45% in the past year and resignations rose by 18%. In New York City, 2,600 officers retired in 2020 compared with only 1,500 the year before. This is happening across America because of the Democrat war on police.

    As Buck pointedly put it: “In military terms, this starts to create what you would call a unit that would be combat ineffective.”

    Clay asked law enforcement officers to call in and let us know about your experiences. And you called in droves. You’ll want to hear every one of the stories in the audio below.

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    Taking Woke to New Heights: Words Banned by the FAA

    25 Jun 2021

    We all know there are a bunch of words that you’re not supposed to say anymore. The woke brigade has been banning them for years for all kinds of reasons. It’s gone so far that the phrase “trigger warning” now comes with a trigger warning! No joke — as Joe Biden would say.

    Old Joe even got in on the action himself Thursday by speculating about why it’s been difficult to get the “Latinx” community vaccinated.

    Well, now another American institution has gone woke. The Federal Aviation Administration — the FAA — is replacing words and phrases such as “airman,” “man-made” and, wait for it… “cockpit.”

    Cockpit! Not allowed anymore. Why? Is it even a gendered term the first place? Or is the woke left just catering to ignoramuses who associate the word with its first four letters.

    Well, Clay and Buck dug into the etymology of  “cockpit” and you won’t want to miss what they found out.

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    A Biden Blunder Montage

    25 Jun 2021

    When we tell you we are gonna give you a Biden blunder montage, gosh darn it we deliver. Here is your Biden montage. And to think Saturday Night Live said here’s nothing to make fun of, apparently, right? How do you mock Joe Biden? He’s the greatest human ever? Amazing!

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    Jalen Rose Makes Racist Remark on ESPN, Will Face No Consequences

    25 Jun 2021

    CLAY: This is yesterday, ESPN, Jalen Rose, who talks about the NBA for a living at ESPN. He was talking about the new United States Olympic team and all of the people that were named on it. Kevin Love is a white guy, and that’s totally unacceptable to Jalen Rose. Listen to this.

    ROSE: I’m excited about the roster, and I assume — and I know — we gonna win the gold. But I’m disappointed in something. As I do this show every day, I do it in front of a picture of Tommie Smith and John Carlos raising their fists at the Olympics. I also know the favoritism that Christian Laettner was shown when he got a chance to be put on the Dream Team ahead of Shaq and Alonzo.

    But they made it so that a college player could even get on and gave him favoritism. But this level of — and I got a word for it — Kevin Love is on the team because of “tokenism.” Don’t be scared to make an all-black team representing the United States of America. I’m disappointed by that.

    Anybody that watched the league this year knows Kevin Love did not have a stellar season, was not the best player on his team, and did not necessarily deserve to be on this squad. And I’m not gonna take him off the squad and not put somebody else on it. I’m gonna tell you whose spot that should be. Deandre Ayton should have Kevin Love’s spot, and I’m disappointed in Team USA for not having the courage to send a [sic] all-black team to Olympics.

    BUCK: Wow. Clay, I —

    CLAY: Had you heard that yet?

    BUCK: I had not. That was a first reaction from me, and we all know we’re about to get into how if we changed around some of the details here, it would just be a story that the media would be a five-alarm fire on how they were covering this. But Kevin Love, on the merits, should he be on this team? I wanted to ask you that. What’s the deal?

    CLAY: It’s a good question.

    BUCK: People used to try to pretend that Colin Kaepernick was a much better player than he actually he was —

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: — by the time he went woke, and I knew enough about football to know, no, he actually wasn’t that good.

    CLAY: So challenge that Olympic team has in general is lots of players don’t want to play because there’s been such a compressed schedule since covid happened. So a lot of people have turned down the opportunity. They need a big man. The one that Jalen Rose referenced, Deandre Ayton, is actually from the Bahamas. So technically he’s not an American citizen.

    I’m not sure if he’s become a full naturalized American citizen yet. He plays for the Phoenix Suns right now. I don’t believe that he has. Also, Jalen Rose saying that the reason why Kevin Love is on is because he’s a white guy and because he’s tokenism and because they’re afraid of having an all-black team?

    They had an all-black team in 2016 and nobody cared because they were the best players in the country, and I think the shift here is really kind of fascinating because if a white commentator — hockey, an overwhelmingly white sport, right? It’s not a big surprise there. We have an American hockey team that plays for the Olympics, the Winter Olympics.

    If we had a black hockey player and a white commentator came out and said, “This is tokenism; that player is on only because of their race,” that commentator would be fired within the hour of the statement being made. Jalen Rose can falsely, first of all, assert that America’s not willing to have an all-black basketball team for the Olympics.

    We’ve had it before in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2016. Kevin Love was previously on the team in 2012. To the extent, Buck, he’s getting favoritism, it’s because he’s already been a member of the team before and they know that he’s a good teammate and that he’s a big man, something that is in short supply.

    But what I think is utterly fascinating here is, Rush Limbaugh lost his job at this same network for pointing out a truth which was many media members were rooting for Donovan McNabb because he was black and they wanted to see a black quarterback succeed. That’s 100% true! Rush Limbaugh lost his job for that. Jalen Rose will get almost no criticism because the standard of speech is not even in the world of sports or in the larger universe when it comes to race.

    BUCK: And everyone has to keep in mind that what Clay’s talking about here as it applies to the sports world, we’re seeing now all across the country in corporate America, in schools, in teaching.

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: We point out that there’s a double standard.

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    It’s Crazy! Canada Still Shut Down for Covid

    25 Jun 2021

    CLAY: Canada is still shut down. We can’t even cross the border and go into Canada! If you’re a Canadian citizen and you happen to be in America and you go into Canada, you have to quarantine for 14 days. I went down to Mexico back in February. You know, I had to have a negative covid test to be able to reenter the country.

    There are people pouring across the border right now who are not American citizens. Obviously, I’m an American citizen who had to have a negative covid test. The covid emergency seems to totally disappear when you talk about the border because they’re not concerned at all about that.

    BUCK: I love our Canadian brothers and sisters up north. They’re so polite and there’s so much to recommend about Canada, but Justin Trudeau? It’s like a blogger for the HuffPost got put in charge of a serious western country.

    CLAY: (laughing) That’s a great analogy.

    BUCK: That’s really what you’ve got going on.

    CLAY: And right now, Buck, for people out there who are aware, the Montreal Canadiens are in the Stanley Cup final, and today Canada released data on what’s going to be allowed and what is permissible and what is impermissible as it pertains to actually being able to go to a hockey game.

    And I think we need to give a lot of credit — and we have on this show, certainly — to the governors, led by Ron DeSantis, who have allowed our country to open back up. Canada is obsessed with hockey more than basically America’s obsessed with anything in the world of sports. Buck, they’re only going to allow 3,500 people to go watch the Montreal Canadiens play.

    Whoever they’re playing against in the United States, we’re gonna have 100% capacity. They’re selling pod tickets. You’re not allowed to leave your zone. You have to wear a mask the entire time that you are there. You are not allowed basically to 14 distinct zones inside of this arena. If we didn’t have the system of federalism that we have in this country right now — God, thank you for it.

    We would still be locked down like Canada is and like Australia is. Buck, if we didn’t have guys like Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott and Brian Kemp and all these different governors of decent-size states in the United States who say, “Hey, we’re gonna open up our state,” we would still be like Canada is, like Justin Trudeau.

    BUCK: And what you see is the stuff that they’re doing in Canada — and, by the way, it’s also true in some states. There’s this lingering Fauciism. I just got an email from a listener today out in Hawaii who says, “Don’t forget about us.” You know, I’m sure you’ve been there. Hawaii is one of the most beautiful places.

    CLAY: I never have been.

    BUCK: Oh, ever been? Oh. It’s one of the most beautiful places in the world. Unfortunately, it’s gorgeous but it’s gone pretty full commie. I mean, it is really left-wing, you know, very, very Democrat stronghold in Hawaii, and they still have indoor masks. According to this listener, they still have indoor mask mandates. They still have mask mania.

    They had outdoor mask wearing mandated early on in the pandemic, which was always idiotic, didn’t make any sense. And look. I don’t want to be that guy that rains on the parade if things are getting better and everything else, but we have to remember.

    As long as some of this lingers and is not fully and utterly discredited, which it should be — these things like the pods and the separation people; there’s no specific basis for this whatsoever — it will make a comeback. We are still going through what has become a mass hysteria, really a mass anxiety disorder from all these people who are watching Fauci every five minutes on TV.

    CLAY: And we need to talk about that when we come back after this next break, because Alex Berenson — who I think has done a good job trying to expose much of this hysteria on Twitter — is pointing out that right now Facebook is censoring the WHO’s recommendation that children under 18 don’t need to get the vaccine, and also censoring distribution of any discussion of herd immunity at all.

    This is still terrifying, what Big Tech is doing in conjunction with covid.

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    CLAY: Buck, we were talking about the Canada crazy covid story. And I do think we have to continue to fight the battle out there ’cause there’s still a massive amount of Big Tech censorship going on. Even as the covid pandemic is waning substantially in the United States, there are no allowance of the vaccine and some of the challenges that are occurring with the vaccine in terms of being discussed on social media.

    In particular what I mean is, they are censoring right now at Facebook the WHO recommendation that people under the age of 18 don’t need this vaccine and also censoring any discussion of herd immunity. You and I both would fit in the herd community category because we both have had covid. We have covid antibodies; we have not yet gotten the vaccine, because the purpose of getting the vaccine is to have the covid antibodies that we already have.

    And I’ve said — I said this on Monday on the show — I will not allow my kids 13, 10, and 6 to get the covid vaccine because they are under no statistical danger from covid. I’m not anti-vax. My kids have gotten the measles, the mumps, the rubella, all of the young kid vaccines that you get.

    But I’m not going to get them treated for a vaccine when if they got covid, they would never even know they had it and statistically they are under more danger getting in a car with me and driving to school than they are from anything that might happen to them in the larger world.

    All my kids are at camp, in fact, right now. Thank God the camps are open and allowing help me to go out and live a normal life as young kids. But this is still a major issue, Buck. Big Tech, even as covid is waning, is censoring what we are able to share on our social media feeds.

    BUCK: And everyone should know that that’s not going to stop with this issue. The precedent has now been set, and it’s going to continue that the most powerful platforms for speech, communications, for the dissemination of information… I mean, we’re here on radio. So we’re kicking at old school.

    But for the most part now, people are getting their news online, they’re getting their information from digital sources in so many different contexts. And the fact of the matter is that not only did they use the “it’s too dangerous for there to be false information” about covid as a justification for really egregious censorship — that they ended being wrong on, by the way, which I think everyone needs to remember.

    There were things like the Wuhan lab leak theory that were suppressed and there’s more and more information. Clay and I want to hit that and go into deeper detail about it, probably next week. But they were wrong on things that they censored under the premise that they knew what they were doing was right, and it was dangerous to allow what turned out to be truthful information to get out there.

    Now they’ve done it on the election, as well, as you know. If you say the wrong thing about the 2020 election results, you can be kicked off of social media. Just give it time. Give it time, and if you say there can’t be criticism of climate change, there can’t be criticism of climate change as an existential threat or that gun violence is an imminent issue that… Whatever it may be, there will be the utilization, the mobilization of these censorship resources against the disfavored opinion of the right.

    CLAY: Thought police. Thought police are alive and well in our society. And, Buck, I know we talked about this off air. One of the reasons why both of us… You had a very successful show. I had a very successful show. One of the big reasons we wanted to come and work together on this show was because of what we saw happening with Big Tech.

    Radio, we can still talk to you guys. Thanks to Premiere. Thanks to iHeart. Thanks to Julie Talbott, our boss, and Bob Pittman allowing the dissemination of information to actually get out there, radio, what’s old is sometimes be new again, Buck. We’re one of the most reliable mediums to be able to actually share the truth with our audience.

    By the way, go subscribe to the podcast. Rate us. Find us wherever you can. But this is one of the places where we can’t be censored. Thank God for what Rush Limbaugh did. It matters even more when you look at the power of Facebook, Twitter, the Amazons. Look at what they did to Parler. Look at what they’re doing with stories that they don’t like, in the name — and I’m quotation marking here — “of science.”

    BUCK: I also have to say there’s a part of me that is happy to see the beginnings of a real movement on the right. They use joke around, you know, “Build your own platform.” Then it became, “Build you your own internet.” There’s a lot out there now — and, by the way, Trump is supposed to be saying something about this next week.

    There have been a lot of people that have been hinting toward some new platform or some initiative that will allow Trump to have the same voice he did in the past. But they’ve been… The leftists has been mocking us, saying, “Build your own platform, build your own internet”? They should be careful what they wish for because there’s a lot underway now that I think’s gonna change the game.

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