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Clueless Joe and Kamala Tank CNN Ratings

29 Jun 2021

CNN’s ratings have tanked as they further abdicate their responsibility as journalists. For instance, when Vice President Kamala Harris made a perfunctory pitstop ten miles from the border, so-called reporters failed to challenge her boilerplate remarks or demand details of the supposed Biden-Harris plan to fix it.

Buck said, “Right now when Kamala goes to the border, on any issue of the Biden administration, there’s what does CNN really have to say? What does the New York Times have to tell people? ‘Forget about the problems, the deficiencies of the people in power right now. Let’s all just cry about masks and freak out about another insurrection.'”

Clay pointed out CNN’s desperation to find a story after four years of programming strictly on the supposed evils of Donald Trump and the “fear porn” of covid-19. Since Joe Biden took office, for example, Jake Tapper’s audience had plummeted by 75%.

“CNN has always been sort of in that squishy middle,” Clay pointed out.” Suddenly, they found a voice being opposed to Trump, and they have no idea what to say now.” Buck agreed, pointing out the credibility hit the network took after years of promoting the Russia collusion nonsense, imaginary threats that Trump would start World War III, and generally stoking panic.

“They’re blaming Trump for the border,” Buck said, “and now they’re even trying to say that Republicans are the reason that police were defunded. My friends, they will say anything to you. They simply do not care. The media is flailing in this current moment.”

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AOC Protests Outside Biden White House

29 Jun 2021

BUCK: Want to hear about what AOC’s got, the madness that she wants to push on all of us?

CLAY: Yeah, I was just asking the question because there’s all this discussion about the internal conflicts in the Republican Party, and I feel like we totally overlook everything in the Democratic Party. And AOC is now outside of the White House protesting. Joe Biden’s in office, and she’s outside protesting. Play cut 15.

OCASIO-CORTEZ: What a lot of folks here in D.C. don’t understand is that while this may be the hottest summer of their lives, it’s gonna be one of the coolest summers of our lives! (applause) So what that means is that they brought the heat on us; so we bring the heat on them. (applause)

BUCK: I mean, the fact that she —

CLAY: The cheer is so bad.

BUCK: She’s demanding climate action. And this is one of these great areas for Democrats where they say they want to do all these things and then, even when they’re in a position to do them, Clay, they don’t because it’s insane, right? This is why we don’t have cap-and-trade. This is why we don’t have the extreme green, commie nonsense that they want to inflict on the country.

CLAY: Yeah. There’s no doubt. I mean, she’s an imbecile.

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Fauciites and Coronabros Won’t Let Covid Go

29 Jun 2021

BUCK: We have been thinking here for a while that we need everyone to see what’s coming the way that we do down the road a little bit here because the mask mania, the lockdowners… I call them the Fauciites. Do you have a term you like? I call it the Fauciite consensus.

CLAY: Yeah, Fauciite is not bad. We sold a bunch of, at Outkick, Faucism T-shirts. But what I’ve been focusing on is the bigger picture, I would say. This is all fear porn, right? “Coronabros” is the phrase that I have used because early on… I don’t know how much you paid attention to social, but it felt to me like there were many people rooting for covid, right? Like they were…

Everything was terrifying. They were all-in. As soon as there was the least negative story, they were spreading it. They wanted everybody to be stuck in their houses. The people who are triple masking driving in their cars by themselves, the people who were the most afraid of corona, I called the coronabros because they wanted to shut down sports they wanted lockdowns to continue forever.

BUCK: And they also engaged in a tremendous amount of virtue signaling.

CLAY: Oh!

BUCK: With social media, this became a cheap way to show how much you “believed the science,” which has now, as we all know, turned into a laugh line. You say, “I believe the science,” and everyone thinks that you’re wearing a mask in the shower at home alone and dreaming of the next time there’s going to be a Fauci appearance on MSNBC.

So here’s, though, why we’re talking about this, ’cause this is the problem. A lot of people… We’re here. I’m here in Nashville with Clay right now in Tennessee. A lot of states that feel pretty normal. But there’s still the vestiges of the crazy in parts of the country — certainly from the federal government, the Biden regime on down — ad right now, you’re hearing the beginnings of the Delta variant. Everyone is supposed to be paranoid and freaked out about this Delta variant that’s coming. And so you’re being told to mask up again. Play 18.

ERICA HILL: The WHO saying if you’re vaxxed, you should continue to mask up. I mean (sputters), are masks coming back?

BRIAN WILLIAMS: WHO came out today and said, “Masks back on.”

GAYLE KING: Now recommend wearing masks at indoor public places whether you’re vaccinated or not.

STUART VARNEY: …to wear masks indoors even if they’re vaccinated.

ANTHONY MASON: Recommendation that fully vaccinated people wear masks indoors again.

DAVID AGUS: It’s a recommendation. I think it’s a reasonable recommendation. You know, we have two Americas: Those vaccinated and those not.

BUCK: Why should any vaccinated person…? Never mind if we want to get into the effectiveness or lack thereof of masks, masking as a policy. Why should any vaccinated person think that they should wear a mask at this point? It defies numbers, science, logic, and reason, and yet now you already have the calls for this from media outlets and from some of the scientific establishment all over again.

CLAY: Yeah, LA County is now saying that they want people indoors to be wearing masks, and we talked about this on the show. I know that you and I have talked about this for months. The stat that is out there, Buck, that is terrifying: 4% of Democrats believe covid is over, 4% — 96% of them are unwilling to allow the rest of us to move on.

And what has not been talked about enough, in addition to the people who are super afraid that can get vaccinated, we have got a ton of people like you and I who already had covid and have natural antibodies to covid. And it’s like those people never get talked about, but we know probably over a hundred million people…

That’s a reasonable number, I think, at this point ’cause we know 35 million confirmed cases or whatever. Three-to-one seems very, very reasonable based on all of the other data out there. If you combine the hundred million people who have already had covid with all of the people who are now vaccinated, either one shot or two shot… I know it’s like a phrase that you can’t use.

But all of the numbers would reflect that herd immunity is coming down and is becoming a reality, and also the Delta variant is likely to be still, according to all the data that I’ve seen, handled by the vaccine and also probably handled by natural immunity. So the fact that so many Americans have already either gotten the vaccine or already had covid, it’s like you can’t talk about those two things or even discuss herd immunity. They’re editing and censoring herd immunity discussions in this country when it seems to me, the most rational thing we should all be talking about.

BUCK: We live in a time where the left and the Democrat Party seem to have abandoned what should be nonpolitical or above political issues, things that you would believe you could get agreement with just the American people in general on. Things like, “Don’t we all want there to be safer streets, less crime, less violent crime, and don’t we all understand that law enforcement plays a critical role in that?”

No! Democrats don’t agree with that. “Don’t we think that politicization of a virus is something that doesn’t make any sense?” I don’t want anyone to get this. I don’t want anyone to suffer the ill consequences of covid and, God forbid, pass away from this. I act on the assumption that my fellow Americans…

Well, I had been acting on the assumption that all my fellow Americans just felt that way. But when you look at the way that this has been so deeply partisan — and really from the very beginning it was used as a club against Trump in the election year. We know that. There was reckless propaganda from the media suggesting that Donald Trump was handling this so badly; he was opposed…

No, I would criticize the former administration a little bit more going along too much and too long with many of the recommendations, but we’re at a point now where you say to the statistic you brought up, only 4% of Democrats believe that this thing is really over. What we’re starting to see, Clay, is that’s because there are a lot of Democrats for whom this is normal now. This is actually the way the future looks: Booster shots, mask mandates; the government in control of everything: What you can breathe, where you can go, who you can see. If you’re a true authoritarian collectivist, that’s actually the vision of America that you have.

CLAY: And I think it’s important for some people out there who live in red states that may have embraced freedom now to understand that while you may believe we are finished with this — and I do — we are not finished with this because the power that is incarnate in covid restrictions and regulations has come to define the Democrat Party. And so they are going to embrace this because what else do they have, Buck?

Defund the police has gone up in smoke. We don’t know what’s gone on exactly with the infrastructure package. The budget is basically going to be the end — however it gets reconciled in Congress — of what Joe Biden is able to accomplish. And what actually unites the Democratic Party? We talk a lot about the Republican Party and the media and the civil war over Liz Cheney, but what actually unites AOC and Joe Manchin?

That scope of the Democratic Party is more expansive in terms of what they represent, all these different interest groups. So I think they’re desperate to find something that everybody can latch or not, and it’s wearing masks. We talked about this at the border, Buck. Kamala Harris went to the border (“border” in quotation marks); she wore a mask! Why is anybody who is vaccinated outdoors still wearing a mask?

BUCK: Outside!

CLAY: Outside.

BUCK: By the way —

CLAY: And all of the people with her wore a mask.

BUCK: — that has never made sense, has never been rooted in actual data and a serious look at the epidemiological risks here. But it is virtue signaling and political signaling too. “The good people wear the masks even outside. They wear two masks!” I am on record. People can see from my Twitter timeline. So this isn’t just, “Oh, I made some prediction.”

I was saying for months before Fauci came out in January of 2020, they’re going to tell you it has to be two masks — oh, and, by the way, they’re gonna finally come clean on the fact that N95 masks are substantially more serious, at least, as a tool of epidemiological control under certain condition. Wearing that Biden-Harris bandana across your face or wearing the kerchiefs that people are draping?

There’s no epidemiological purpose whatsoever against a virus like this. And they won’t admit that, though, because that would be telling the CNN watchers, the New York Times readers, who “took the science seriously,” that they’re not as smart as they think they are. And that’s fatal to the Democrats. They have to believe they’re smarter than they actually are.

CLAY: Not only that, if you acknowledge that, you have to be able to spread that message! And this is, to me, the most terrifying thing about all of it. On Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, you’re not allowed to even question, quote-unquote, “the science.” I mean, remember, the lab leak theory would get you banned off of Facebook for a year and then suddenly all these emails come out and all the data comes out.

And people are like, “Yeah!” You know, Jon Stewart now can joke about it. We’re seeing that now with herd immunity. We’re seeing that with discussions about masks. Science is supposed to be messy, right? The scientific method, for everybody out there who’s forgotten about it is about rigorously tossing out hypotheses and testing them, and all of a sudden we demanded a certitude that doesn’t exist.

And, Buck, this is important, I think. Very much science is as much of an art as it is a science. Right? Anybody who has ever had a medical condition that they can’t figure out what’s wrong with them and you go and get a second and a third and a fourth opinion, doctors often disagree, even when they’re looking at the all of the same data sets. And so this idea of certitude that we demanded is actually the antithesis of what science represents.

Science is messy. Science is argumentative. Science is contentious. What we have created is a totalitarian view of science which only allows one particular idea to dominate, and guess what? That idea’s often wrong and also destructive for the country. And we’re not yet through that battle yet. And some of you out there, I know, are frustrated about this. But I think it’s a battle we have to keep fighting, Buck.

BUCK: Yeah. It’s not over. We haven’t had the repudiation. You still have people who believe that lockdowns and mask mandates —

CLAY: Made sense.

BUCK: — were highly effective, despite the fact that we lived through the second wave, (which is exactly what it was) despite the fact that the predictions about how that would all play out based on the early promises from a year ago, in August of 2020, “If only we mask, we’ll be okay.”

That was the promise, and then you had people all across the country doing this as well as the lockdowns. And then there’s all the absurdity that you weren’t allowed to even bring up anymore, places where you saw all of a sudden, “Hold on, that makes no sense. Mask up between bites is idiotic. Does Fauci think we are all morons?”

Well, apparently, he thinks he can get away with acting like we are. And there has not yet been a real accounting of this. And we’re just here to tell you, I know for a lot of people listening — you’re in Florida, you’re in Texas, you’re in places unlike New York and California that have really embraced freedom and normalcy — this isn’t over.

Covid, you could say the pandemic is largely over. But the lockdownerism? It’s not gone. There is gonna booster shots. They are going to have a push — you watch — for forced vaccination from the federal level in every way. Every tool they can use, they’re gonna try to force people to vaccinate this fall. That’s my prediction. That’s my belief.

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29 Jun 2021

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Gwen Berry Sees Kaepernick Dollar Signs

28 Jun 2021

BUCK: Gwen Berry is at the Olympics qualifying here, and President Biden… Well, let me tell you what she did first. She has expressed her irritation at the national anthem being played when she was getting her bronze medal. She’s on the Olympic team, and she’ll be representing the U.S., and she did not appreciate the national anthem played while she was getting her bronze medal.

She turned her back on it, and — no surprise here, I’m sure, for many of you — the White House is backing her up. Now, Gwen Berry is a female African-American athlete. This White House with Jen Psaki taking to the podium saying that, you know, they respect this. Berry is representing the U.S. on a global stage, and, if she wants to disrespect America, Joe Biden stands with her. Play the clip.

PSAKI: I haven’t spoken to the president specifically about this, but I know he’s incredibly proud to be an American, uhh, and has great respect for the anthem and all that it represents, especially for our men and women serving in uniform all around the world. He would also say of course that part of that pride in our country means recognizing there are moments where we, as our country, haven’t lived up to our highest ideals and it means respecting the right of people granting them in the Constitution to peacefully protest.

BUCK: Yeah. So they respect it. They back it up. No condemnation here, of course. What should be done about this? Congressman Dan Crenshaw of Texas, a former Navy SEAL and current member of Congress, he has a pretty clear view what he thinks should happen now for this athlete. Gwen Berry, who’s representing America in the… By the way, I don’t even think I said the sport.

The hammer throw is the sport. So this is not a particularly well known, high-level — or high-attendance, I should say — sport. This is one of these track-and-field on events that people can be pretty obscure and involved in. But here’s what Congressman Crenshaw said he thinks should happen next.

CRENSHAW: We don’t need any more activist athletes. She should be removed from the team. The entire point of the Olympic team is to represent the United States of America. It’s the entire point! Okay? (laughs) So, you know, it’s one thing when these NBA players do it. Okay, fine. We’ll just stop watching. But now the Olympic team? And it’s multiple cases of this.

They should be removed. That should be the bare minimum requirement is that you believe in the country representing. But look, taking it a couple levels deeper, this is the pathological that occurs when we’re teaching critical race theory into our institutions because critical race theory, again, basically teaches that our institutions are racist, that our systems are deeply racist.

Now, you can’t see the racism, right, because it’s subtle — and if you deny it, it’s because if you’re white fragility. But you’re teaching people this constantly, and this is what it results in. It results in this. It results in these displays of hatred towards our own country, and it’s gotta stop.

BUCK: Clay Travis, I think we both know she’s not gonna be taken off the team, but should she be, and what do you make of all this?

CLAY: I don’t think she should be taken off the team because she did earn a spot on the team, and ultimately the most sacrosanct, to my opinion, of all sports verities is best man or best woman wins, and she at least got the bronze medal to represent the United States. Here is what I think is going on, Buck.

Everyone has Colin Kaepernick dollar signs in their head. When Nike decided to give Colin Kaepernick — and other companies as well, but Nike is the most prominent. When they decided to give Colin Kaepernick tens of millions of dollars to reward him for protesting the national anthem, what they did was set a new precedent.

Because the old precedent at Nike was, “You have to be the greatest at your sport in order to get a shoe. In order to be an endorser, we want Michael Jordan. We want Ken Griffey Jr. We want all of the greatest athletes out there of their iteration to be representing a shoe company.” It could bBe Nike, could be Adidas, could be Reebok. Doesn’t really matter.

Excellence was the hallmark.

When they gave money to Colin Kaepernick, they made the decision you could denigrate America, you could demean our country, you could absolutely — in my mind — inject your own political values during a game. And when all these different athletes saw Colin Kaepernick make the money that he did without having any real talent anymore, it set off dollar signs everywhere.

So when I saw this, the first thing I thought, this woman that nobody knew competing in the sport that no one’s really ever heard of, hardly, my first thought was, “She is angling to make money by hating America.” And this stupid woke capitalism, Buck, allows this country, unlike any other… I’m not sure there’s any other country in the world where you can become a multimillionaire by saying how much you think America sucks.

BUCK: It goes beyond ideology now. You’re right. It actually is about what benefits people, what makes them money, what will bring them more fame and more repute. I think this is why there’s this feeling — and I often have this when I would do political analysis, and I’d say, “Well, do I care what LeBron James will say about something,” or, you know, name an athlete, whoever it may be.

“Do I care what some athlete says about politics?” And there’s always this back-and-forth between, well, no matter how ignorant the statement may be or how absurd it may be, they have a following at a level that it matters; so it’s worth pushing back on how wrong it is or why it’s wrong.

In a case like this, we’re sitting here talking about Gwen Berry using her name on a radio show that’s on over 400 stations, right, all across the country giving her airtime. Of course, she’s the top story on the Daily Mail right now. I mean, she’s on Fox News. She’s everywhere. CNN, you name it.

CLAY: It’s not us making this story.

BUCK: Right. This has become a huge story. The White House has been asked to weigh in on it. Jen Psaki has said the usual thing of, “Yeah, don’t worry. We like wokeness even if Biden, we’re not gonna get him to actually weigh in on it specifically ’cause who knows what Joe Biden will say in the circumstances,” but here’s why this is important as well.

The incentives have changed such that now stepping out and saying this, not only is it not brave, but it’s the obvious thing for certain athletes to do, because that’s how much the system and that’s how much corporate America has changed in recent years. So why there’s a part of me that wants to say, “I wish we wouldn’t give this story the additional focus of someone who’s…” Let’s just be honest: It’s a bratty thing to do to say you don’t want to hear the national anthem when you’re representing the United States of America on an Olympics team.

CLAY: And turn your back on it. And this is the next iteration, right? Because whether you agreed or disagreed with Colin Kaepernick — and I didn’t, right? I said it was bad business to protest in uniform at work. In the same way, Buck, the analogy I always made is, if you work at McDonald’s, and you don’t like hamburgers, your job is still to sell people hamburgers, right?

So if somebody walked up and said, “Hey, I want a hamburger. I want a Big Mac,” and the cashier at McDonald’s said, “Well, meat is murder, like, they’d get fired pretty quick because the goal and the job at McDonald’s is to sell hamburgers. So if you’re opposed if you’re a vegetarian and you want to say instead, “Why don’t you get a sadly, instead,” well, eventually you’re gonna get fired probably really quickly.

But at least that’s a private entity, right? The San Francisco 49ers who Colin Kaepernick played for, they are a for-profit NFL franchise. To me you’re taking the next step, when you are representing the United States of America on the global stage and you are disrespecting us in this manner.

BUCK: And let’s just call if what it is with this White House and the Biden administration, Psaki speaking — the White House press secretary speaking — on his behalf: It’s cowardice.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I mean, they know that this is childish, divisive, stupid, they know that this isn’t going to help, it’s not gonna spark conversation, it’s not gonna bring us together. But they also know that if they were to say anything even approaching any of that —

CLAY: The truth.

BUCK: — if they actually spoke the truth on this issue, there’s about 30% of the Democrat Party, maybe more like 30% of the country — 20 to 30% — that would view that as some kind of betrayal of wokeness. And Biden needs, you know, the woke army working on his behalf. He needs them.

CLAY: He’s afraid of them, I think, is another way of putting it, too, ’cause he knows they’re constantly looking for a target and an old white guy is a pretty fertile target for them historically. And so this has always been a tenuous relationship. To me, this is going to I think … Some people say, what’s the ultimate impact of this? She’s not going to be the only one that does this.

That’s the truth. And next month when we are on the global stage, this is gonna be a major issue. And here’s what I’ve always argued, Buck. I went after Megan Rapinoe and the U.S. women’s soccer team because when they were representing the U.S. in the women’s World Cup, I thought that all those women had an opportunity to say the reason…

If you look at the women’s World Cup, for instance — and this is true also in the Olympics — one reason we dominate is because we’re so wealthy, because capitalism gives us the luxury to be able to have really good hammer throwers. Right? The reason why Gwen Berry, despite the fact she doesn’t represent belief that America’s worth celebrating, the reason why Gwen Berry is good at hammer throwing is because we have the resources and the luxury to be able to train people like Gwen Berry to be hammer throwers.

Right? The reason why we dominate is because of the wealth of this nation and so in the women’s World Cup and also in the Olympics, very often you can just look at the freest countries and they tend to win the most medals. So my argument with the women’s World Cup team that was so frustrating to me is, all they had to do was say, “Every country should try to be like America.

“Try to be like us. If you allow your women to play sports, if you allow them…” Saudi Arabia doesn’t even let you wear shorts. Iran doesn’t let women go watch actual soccer matches for much of its history. It’s not a surprise that those countries get their ass kicked by the U.S. women when we’ve got Title IX, we’ve got all these scholarships and everything else out there.

BUCK: And you know from the history of sports and even in pop culture the way it appears in movies like Miracle or, dare I say, Rocky IV, one of the great pro-American —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — cinema achievements of all time. There used to be this sense that when it comes to the Olympics or it comes to American athletes on the world stage, this is one of the great moments of unity because we are all —

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: — rooting for our people, our American athletes. And to undermine that, to pollute that with petty, woke garbage is just… It’s just indicative of what we’ve come to now. I mean, I really do believe that America hatred for many on the left is becoming its own disorder. It’s becoming a fashionable mental illness.

CLAY: It pays. That’s what’s so frustrating, Buck. Nike set this precedent. Because the reason why Gwen Berry is trying to be like Colin Kaepernick is, how much do you think the average hammer thrower makes from hammer throwing if they even win a medal? Almost nothing. But I guarantee you one of these woke, loser corporations is gonna sign Gwen Berry to represent them, and they are gonna pay her millions of dollars.

There’s no other country that I’m aware of in the world, Buck, where on the national and the international stage you can basically stick up a medal finger at the country. In China, your family would disappear if you tried to do this. No other country’s gonna do this, and yet we’re gonna reward this behavior.

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Clay and Buck Preview Tuesday’s Talk with President Trump

28 Jun 2021

CLAY: Tomorrow in this same hour that you are listening to right now, Hour 2, we will have the president of the United States, number 45 himself, Donald Trump. Hopefully, Buck, he’ll stay with us for a little while. But he’s scheduled to join us the top of the second hour. He will be the first guest that we have had on the program so far.

BUCK: As long he wants to hang out with Clay and Buck, we will let him hang out with Clay and Buck gratefully. We’ll be very happy to have him. So, hopefully he’ll stay for a while.

CLAY: Yeah. It should be a lot of fun. And, obviously, he’s going to the border on Wednesday, and he was a big reason why suddenly Kamala Harris went on Friday, which we talked about. The design of the Friday trip as well, Buck, was to have it disappear into the weekend so that they didn’t have to talk about it coming back to start the week.

BUCK: Yeah, well, I’m sure that 45 is gonna have some thoughts on that one tomorrow, on that whole situation, and then some. And, of course, we’re gonna have to… One place we’re gonna have to push a little bit is, “Sir, you’re out there; you’re doing rallies. Are you gonna run?”

CLAY: Of course.

BUCK: But we’re gonna ask him and then we’re gonna try to press him a little because —

CLAY: When do you think he has to make a decision?

BUCK: (exhales) You know, I think we’re gonna have to ask him that honestly.

CLAY: Is there a deadline?

BUCK: Yeah, there is a deadline, and no one’s… It’s so far out right there that I don’t even think that’s really factoring into it. I think it’s just a question of does he want to go for it again? Does he have the energy, the stamina? I mean, look, you know, we’ve been talking about some of the Ron DeSantis polling and he’s really got a lot of momentum.

He’s got some strong wind at his back here. You know, Trump has very similar numbers of people that would support him on the GOP side. So, you have two great options here, and it is just a question of whether Trump wants to make that one last run. So I’m looking forward to talking about it tomorrow, and one thing we can promise you all — ’cause you know this, but (chuckling) — it will be interesting, to have Donald J. Trump chatting with us here.

CLAY: It certainly will, and I do think the timeline of when he makes his choice, because in 2022 — which isn’t feeling that far away right now, right? I mean, one of the reasons why this infrastructure bill is being pushed like it is and why the batting is such a massive story is, I do think that the Biden people are looking at the polls, and they are aware that effectively now that they’re six months in, they might only have two or three more months of actually being able to get anything done until we start to move into the 2022 cycle.

BUCK: I don’t think you’re gonna hear a lot of… Here’s a prediction: You’re not gonna hear a lot of defund police from Democrats in competitive districts or states. I can tell you that. I think we’re being able to see a shift in that regard. One other note. We should ask — we will ask — the former president tomorrow, Clay. You know the Trump Organization has this deadline today to convince New York prosecutors not to file criminal charges. The CFO of the Trump administration Allen Weisselberg has, quote, “refused to flip.”

CLAY: They’ve been going after him forever.

BUCK: This is the Manhattan DA weaponizing the prosecutor’s office.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Look, this is the Trump Organization. So, it’s not like this is a case against Trump himself personally. But just the fact that they’re continuing with this harassment, it’s in part because… Well, no, it’s not “in part.” It’s almost entirely because. I mean, it’s driven by the desire to try to make things rough for Trump, and the left wants him to say, “I’ve got a great life. I got a great family. I’m gonna go play golf and leave this to somebody else.” They want Trump to do that.

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Coronabros Ruin the College World Series

28 Jun 2021

Clay compared covid to Michael Myers from the old school Halloween movies. You think it’s dead but it keeps coming back. Covid is the villain who keeps coming back.

A great example happened this weekend at the College World Series. NC State isn’t allowed to play because four of their players, who are young and healthy tested positive. Their dream of winning the college World Series is out the window, even though there are over 20,000 people — including Clay’s wife and sons — showing up to watch these games in Omaha, Nebraska — with no restrictions.

And in another jaw-dropping decision, the president of Make-A-Wish announced that children who hadn’t been vaccinated for covid wouldn’t be allowed to participate in the Make-A-Wish program. These are kids who are facing death! There was such immediate backlash that Make-A-Wish pulled back, but for all the parents out there, the new battleground has moved on from adults making decisions about whether or not to get vaccinated yourself to vaccines for children.

Clay summed it up for most of us: “People out there who’ve been fighting this battle to open up states for a year and a half now are tired, weary. And the coronabro population — and I call ’em coronabros because they want to define our entire universe based entirely on this virus — they’re still pretty powerful.”

Listen to Clay and Buck Take Coronabros Blowback:

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At Ohio Rally, Trump Rips Dems on Crime

28 Jun 2021

Tuesday’s Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show took on one of the biggest political issues in America: The Democrat crime wave, specifically the shootings and homicides spiking in major cities across the country for the last 12 months. President Donald J. Trump (who’ll appear live on the show Tuesday as our first ever guest) addressed the left’s failure to ensure safety at a weekend rally in Wellington, Ohio.

Trump said, “New York, Chicago, Los Angeles. They have great police forces. They’re not allowed to do their job, and now they’re all leaving. … Chicago — which is the single most dangerous city, large scale — has the strongest gun laws in the country. They even say the strongest gun laws in the world. And yet people are being shot by the thousands every year. Worse than Afghanistan! How about that?”

Buck noted the likely primary victory of Eric Adams, former NYPD police captain, in the Democrats’ New York City mayoral primary as a sign of the tide turning, and contrasted it with Joe Biden speech blaming guns. “They’re scrambling right now,” Buck said, “to try to find a narrative to tell people about why is it that things have gotten so much worse in cities.”

We’re not supposed to think it’s a result of undermining police, defunding police, or the rise of the BLM movement. According to the Wall Street Journal, New York City had 462 more murders in 2020, up 45%, and recorded almost a doubling of shootings. Atlanta murders rose 58%, LA 22%, Philadelphia 37%, and Portland, Oregon, suffered a whopping 533% increase.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) addressed the Democrat crime wave, saying, “This party is a party of interest groups, of radical interest groups, and so when it comes to crime, this Democratic Party is the party of criminals, of murderers and rapists and child molesters. You know, you look at what they’ve done in the last five months. They’ve sent $1400 stimulus checks to every criminal in America.

“Murderers currently in jail got federal taxpayer checks courtesy of Joe Biden. They want every felon in America to vote. They want to strike down every law that prohibits felons from voting. And their approach to this, it doesn’t make any sense. You know where crimes come from? It comes from the criminals. Stop supporting policies that let violent criminals out early.

“Stop supporting policies that undermine the police.”

Clay remarked that the crime wave is nationwide, sparked by the George Floyd murder and the Black Lives Matter protests. “It would require a level of stupidity that even the dumbest out there cannot really embrace on a truly logical level” not to see the reason for all this suffering. But Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) dismissed headlines citing “percentage increases” as driving “hysteria” and lacking “context.”

“Buck,” Clay said, “I think I speak for both of us when I say — this has certainly been my history as a lawyer — when police commit crimes or are alleged to commit crimes, they should be prosecuted. But we can’t use these individual viral anecdotes as evidence of a systemic problem when, as you point out, the data reflects that they are not in any way actually systemic in nature.”

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MSNBC Host Says Opposing CRT Proves CRT

28 Jun 2021

BUCK: There’s an MSNBC host who is talking about the “white backlash” and moral panic over critical race theory. I wanted you to hear this because there’s so much in this that is wrong and not true. Their explanations are getting weaker and, honestly, more preposterous and more desperate — which means that the pushback against CRT overall is hitting the mark. But let’s play this. Play 2.

CHRIS HAYES: If you are a political adviser to Donald Trump or Republicans (clicks tongue) and you survey the American populace at this moment in the twenty-first century and you look at out at all the issues, all the things going on and you decide that indeed white backlash and moral panic over critical race theory…

If you think that backlash is so powerful that it provides such a nuclear furnace of rage that it will be the key to taking over Congress in the midterms, well, then, you are conceding the central premise of critical race theory itself, which is that indeed racial resentment — the preservation of racial hierarchy, particularly for white people — is in fact the central-ordering (snickering) conflict in American society.

Right? Because if you think that’s the key to win the elections, not whatever jobs or I don’t know, inflation, right? If the key with winning the elections is mobilizing white backlash along these lines then you’re really saying, “Yes, yes, American politics is inescapably about race!”

BUCK: So, Clay, no one’s saying it’s the key to winning elections. This is his analysis. I think it’s so funny. There’s so much projection that’s going on here. But beyond that when he says, “the nuclear furnace of rage of white backlash” and all this stuff, this is the classic thing that the left keeps doing, which is, “We’re gonna call everything we want that we don’t like ‘racist,’ and if you have a problem with that, that’s because of how racist you are.”

CLAY: Well, that’s the key, right? There’s literally no way to respond to this without being called racist. They have created a model that accuses everything in America of being racist, and then if you say, “Hey, you know what? I don’t think that America is the most racist country that’s ever existed in the world. Maybe we’ve done a few good things for global equality”? Well, that’s your white privilege talking, Buck. That’s your racism. This is your inability to understand and embrace all the evils that you — you awful, horrible white man — have caused in this country. It’s crazy.

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Trip to Buffalo Wild Wings Shows What’s Wrong with Biden Economy

28 Jun 2021

CLAY: Buck, I had an interesting experience on Sunday that, to me, really kind of ties in with the failures of a return to normalcy in this country. We have 9.3 million open jobs right now. That is the most open jobs that have ever existed in the history of this country. That is more open jobs than there are people seeking work. These unemployment benefits — which are being levied mostly now in blue states.

The Wall Street Journal last week said in 19 states, if you have a couple in a household, they can make over $100,000 a year right now not working at all. And this all kind of crystallized for me, Buck, when I walked in… My kids love Buffalo Wild Wings. They love to eat the wings. They like to watch sports.

It is a free advertisement on some level for Buffalo Wild Wings here. They like to sit down, watch the games, eat the wings; they wanted to go out there Sunday. So I took a carload of kids, pulled up to Buffalo Wild Wings near my house, walked in, and there was a girl standing right there in the front.

She said, “We have no buffalo wings here because drivers are not willing to work to deliver our product.” Also, same time, same weekend, Chick-fil-A, which is a Southern delicacy… I know it’s also popular in New York City. I see the lines every time I’m around there, Buck.

Chick-fil-A’s not open because they also couldn’t get product delivered to their stores. I drove to another restaurant that we usually love to go to. It’s not open now on Sundays because they can’t get enough waitstaff. This is an issue everywhere. Let’s open up the phone lines ’cause I’m curious for a lot of small business owners out there to be able to react. This is gonna go all the way up until September right now in many states.

Are you seeing the same thing, Buck Sexton, as it pertains to these scenarios?

BUCK: It’s absolutely happening in a bunch of the big blue states. It’s happening in New York, which has been hit really badly by a lot of these policies and what’s happened as a result of Biden coming into office and deciding to get as close to Modern Monetary Theory and just using the federal government — pretending like the federal government’s purse doesn’t have any end.

I mean, you just spend the money you want to spend. But I also think that what you’re seeing… This is true on the economic front with the jobs. It’s true in so many different places right now where Democrats have control, either at the federal level or in states where they’re in charge. They act like they have no understanding of cause and effect.

We sit here and we say, “Of course somebody who’s going to be able to make a certain income staying home,” and doing whatever they want with their time, right? They’re being paid for their time, particularly these hourly wage jobs that we are predominantly talking about. They’re being paid for their time.

And if they can stay home and make a solid salary, it’s not just a question of what that money is. It’s what’s the value of not having too deal with any job, right? So people who say, “Well, pay them more.” You gotta pay them a lot more. Getting paid to do nothing versus getting paid to actually have to show up and do a job? There’s a value proposition that I think you have to work into it.

But I think we just see this across the board, Clay, we’re on — whether it’s on law enforcement issues or it’s on these incentive structures for going back to work, there’s an unwillingness to see what is obvious because Democrats elevate emotion over reason. They disassociate cause and effect. They believe that their plans, their central planning will result in better outcomes. But what their planning actually results in is you and your kids not having wings. That’s what actually happens.

CLAY: It is funny, because it crystallized, and my kids were like, “Wait a minute, Buffalo Wild Wings doesn’t have wings?” and, “What do you mean Chick-fil-A doesn’t have chicken sandwiches because…?” Some people out there… I think you made a good point there. Immediately when I tweeted about this, people said, “Well, just pay the workers more and you’ll solve it.”

But that’s not what’s going on. It’s not as if some competitor of Buffalo Wild Wings out there is paying a dollar more and everybody is deciding to work there instead — which would be the capitalistic response here, right? Build a better mousetrap. What you’re doing is you’re competing with government paying for people to do nothing.

I think it’s not only people not wanting to work, Buck. I think it’s also they’ve terrified a certain segment of the population that they’re gonna die of covid, right, if they go out and try to go to work. And I think also that now that we’re moving into summer, there’s the childcare issue.

For many women one of the most underreported stories has been that we’re at a 30-year high for women’s unemployment rate because I think a lot of women bear most of the child care responsibilities. But to me it’s pretty transparent. We talked about this off air, Buck. There’s a difference between somebody who has to work in order to live and basically the career versus job, right?

And if you’ve ever had a situation where you had to go to a crappy job that you didn’t love because you have to pay bills, which a huge percentage of the population has, there’s a lot of people out there that are making more money than they ever have before without having to do a single thing. In 19 states, you could make $100,000 a year without working at all, a couple can.

BUCK: I think everyone has to also remember that we act under the assumption right now that Democrats want things to go back to normal at some level, with the economy in particular, but in general they want to go back to precovid normal. I think that’s misunderstanding of what the actual goal is here. I don’t think they’re done. I don’t think that they want the emergency to end.

I think they’ve transformed, at some level, the relationship between citizen and state in their minds. Think about what’s happened here. The government, for the first time ever, told people, “You can’t do your job. We will send you a check. You must stay home. We will tell you when you can do your job again.

“And we’ll spend whatever we decide is necessary in the meantime, to keep things going.” You got a lot of people who were economically not only unaffected by this, but the elites were pushing this — I’m sure you saw — people got wealthier over the course of covid. If you had assets, if you owned stocks, if you owned a house, if you were in pretty good shape. You have the stats right there?

CLAY: Yeah, I got it right in front of me. Any jaw dropped when I saw this. This was from the Wall Street Journal today, Buck. The headline is, “Most Americans Got Richer During the Pandemic,” and you look at the overall data — and this, to me, kind of crystallized it. The last time we had a recession in this country, a serious one, in 2008, U.S. households lost $8 trillion.

That stock market decline, the subprime mortgage crisis, everything else. This “crisis” — crisis in quotation marks — U.S. households added $13.5 trillion in wealth last year. So we didn’t have a real recession. Basically, we put the economy on ice, right, in a coma and continued to flood the marketplace with money, and now we’re trying to figure out how to come out of that coma. But everybody suddenly after being put in the deep sleep added $13.5 trillion in wealth.

BUCK: And also, there are many lies that were told about this whole covid lockdown situation all along. One of the biggest ones and one of the most obvious ones from the very beginning was that we’re all in this together because we really weren’t all in this together certainly economically. There are a lot of people who were able to just continue on. People I know in media often preferred their work schedule of being able to be at home.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: A lot of people who work as journalists now never had be to go back into a newsroom, and you play that out. Across the work from home community which is 10s of millions of Americans, they saw this as an opportunity to essentially order in more food and spend more time on Amazon. While it was actually a lot of the front-line workers, the hourly wage workers who had to keep doing their jobs.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: And this is prevaccine too. They were showing up. They were doing everything. And the people that have been hurt by this largely economically are the ones who the government said, “You can’t do your job anymore.” They’re the ones that have actually been hit by this.

But think about also how this changes the mentality and changes the relationship, I think, going forward between the vast bulk of hourly workers and people that are trying to pay their bills, are struggling to get it done, or small business owners. Now they recognize it — and the Democrats see this, I think, as an opportunity. They talk about fundamental transformation, right?

They can continue on now with covid restrictions in the background that will come, I believe — and we’ll be talking more about this. They are gonna return. They can decide that they’re going to just write checks to people to stay home. I mean, remember when Andrew Yang was running for president —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — in the Democratic presidential primary, instead of mayor of New York (which is not gonna happen), and the big idea was that he was gonna have effectively universal basic income. I think he was calling it like freedom cash or whatever it was at the time. We created a form of basic income right now and running up trillion dollars of debt and we’re telling people to stay home and we’re wondering why aren’t we getting back to normal with the economy more quickly, Clay? It’s because people want control. They don’t want it to go back to what it was.

CLAY: There’s no doubt, and to your point I think it’s been one of the great underreported and underdiscussed topics. People who have information-type jobs were overwhelmingly able to work from home and continue to have better lifestyles. Like you said, they just get to order from Amazon and sit around and watch Netflix and they have more flexibility ’cause they don’t have to spend two hours a day commuting.

Financial activity: 78% can work remote. Information tech: 71%. Professional and business services: 70%. All the way down to leisure and hospitality. Only 13% of people in the leisure and hospitality industry can actually work remote, 17% of construction workers can work remote. We took and taxed, basically, the richest people. We gave them an unbelievable stimulus — again, $13.5 trillion in wealth added in the last year.

Compare that with the Great Recession when households lost $8 trillion. And so people are flush with cash, and that has tangible impact when it comes to being willing to actually take a job. And how do you sort of, for lack of a better term, take these people off of the government teat?

Remember when Gavin Newsom came out and said, “We can’t ever go back to normal,” in his speech inside of Dodger Stadium, because normal wasn’t good enough? They are seeking a transformative nature of change which the government is going to have an unbelievable part of.

BUCK: They have not taken full advantage of the crisis yet. That’s really, I think, a very widespread mind-set at the very top of the Democrat Party. They are not done. Obviously, the infrastructure back and forth we’ve seen is a part of this.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: They’re trying to get things they would not be able to otherwise. And I think that what we’ve seen all along is that the reality of the economic divide and the pandemic was you had management consultants who live in Santa Monica and Brooklyn who were watching MSNBC and then tweeting out how they double mask and believe the science, while truck drivers and hospitality workers and people at restaurants and things were actually having to deal with customers.

CLAY: Grocery store workers.

BUCK: Gas stations, people that have to be there.

CLAY: Small business owners.

BUCK: They were being told, “Sorry, your life’s work is up in smoke.” And, by the way, you asked how things are by me. I was back in New York City over the weekend. One thing that you do see: There are businesses, there are restaurants that now everyone’s finally realizing what some of us were saying all along: They’re never coming back. They’re gone now.

And what does that actually mean economically for not just the families who own them or work in them and others, but for the comeback of some of these cities that I think is anticipated? I think it’s gonna be much more difficult than folks realize.

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